Intel iBook (MacBook) Arriving in May? and 17'' MacBook Pro?

[ImAlwaysRight]

Well, something that Intel CPUs, Microsoft Windows, and integrated graphics all have in common, is that they are better now than they were before. Perhaps to some people, they were sufficiently worse before so as to be unusable, and now they are sufficiently better to be usable?
Not according to this graph from this barefeats.com (http://www.barefeats.com/mincd.html) test. :(

http://www.barefeats.com/image06/micd-utb.gif


The first 3 are Intel Macs, the last is a G4 Mac Mini. Note how well the Intel iMac with X1600 performed. I'm not a big gamer, but for the little that I do, I sure don't want it to be powered by "integrated graphics."

Apple sure seems to be standardizing components. I'm shocked that the Mac Mini, iMac, and Macbook Pro all have 2 RAM slots and all take DDR2 PC5300 memory. I think there is a good chance we will see X1600 graphics in all 13" Macbooks. If not, surely in the high end. I can't see Apple selling a $1499/$1599 laptop with integrated graphics.

[macgeek2005]

AHHHHHHH WHEN WILL WE SEE THE ****ING THINGS ALREADY??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[MarkCollette]

Not according to this graph from this barefeats.com (http://www.barefeats.com/mincd.html) test. :(

http://www.barefeats.com/image06/micd-utb.gif


The first 3 are Intel Macs, the last is a G4 Mac Mini. Note how well the Intel iMac with X1600 performed. I'm not a big gamer, but for the little that I do, I sure don't want it to be powered by "integrated graphics."

Of course you're not mentionning that the Doom3 and Quake3 results show the integrated graphics systems being as good or better. Or the Core Image showing the integrated graphics systems coming in between the two dedicated systems.

Granted, the Radeon 1600 always does better than the Intel GMA950, but the Intel GMA950 seems to hold its own against the Radeon 9200.

[ImAlwaysRight]

Granted, the Radeon 1600 always does better than the Intel GMA950, but the Intel GMA950 seems to hold its own against the Radeon 9200.
YIPPEE!!!! The Intel GMA950 can hold its own against a 4 year old video card! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[MarkCollette]

YIPPEE!!!! The Intel GMA950 can hold its own against a 4 year old video card! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

That's the spirit :)

Just to explain me err explanations, I'm not saying that I would ever want the integrated graphics. It's just that someone was saying that Apple was flip-flopping about some stuff, including integrated graphics being usable or not. I think it's come to a point where someone doing regular desktop stuff can use integrated graphics and be ok.

I myself would rather have dedicated graphics, with MPEG2, MPEG4, and H.264 hardware acceleration. But, I can't afford a new computer now anyway, so who cares what I think :o

[luminosity]

Well, I like the admittedly ancient but still dedicated 32 MB Raedon card in my iBook, but that's just me.

[Surreal]

So, you either hate integrated graphics more than kangaroos or you aren't so bothered by it.

but really guys, what about the 17" Macbook Pro? i never thought i would have the money for an apple laptop for more than a week.

it is physically painful to have this money now. not to mention the emotional damage. all they have to do is announce it will be available when the 2.33's are and allow me to buy one. really. i am that desperate to own this ethereal device.

i am quite aware that i am frothing at the mouth at the prospect of a product, but this seems the proper place to do so.

[Paulhammer]

I think hoping for an X1600 in all MacBooks is a bit over the top, especially if apple wants to nail the all important 999 price point...

On the other hand, i doubt they would cripple any high end MacBooks (possible 12" powerbook replacement) with the intel graphics...

I'd bet on an X1300 in the low end, with an X1400 or 1600 as either a BTO option or standard feature on the high end.

I wouldn't bet on seeing a 13" MBP either, 12" powerbook was basically a pimped out iBook, so by just making a pimped out MacBook Apple can save on the costs of manufacturing a seperate case for the MBP.

[AidenShaw]

despite a vastly superior ... firmware implementation than wintel machines
This is ludicrous.

Who really cares about the low-level hardware stuff that launches the primary boot loader?

Only Apple can manage to convince people that they are superior because for the first 7 seconds after powering on their system runs "more modern" code that does exactly the same thing that the "last century" code on the PC does.

Bleat. Bleat!

[macgeek2005]

I just wanna see the god damn things already.

[NewMacFan]

The store is down right now, maybe they come today?!?!

[peanut48]

The store is down right now, maybe they come today?!?!


Store is working fine....I just checked

[ImAlwaysRight]

The store is down right now, maybe they come today?!?!
Store was down for the Aperture update/price reduction. It's back up now with no other changes. :(

Looking at the current, soon-to-be-discontinued Powerbook G4 12", it has the following specs:

$1499
1.5GHz PowerPC G4
512MB DDR333
80GB Ultra ATA drive @ 5400rpm
8x SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
NVIDIA GeForce FX GO 5200 with 64MB DDR Video Memory

Surely Apple is not going to come out their high-end Macbook for $1499 or possibly $1599 and put dedicated graphics in the thing. I think the high end Macbook will look like this:

$1499/$1599
1.67GHz core duo
512MB DDR2-PC5300
80GB SATA drive @ 5400rpm
8x SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB DDR Video Memory (lesser Macbooks should have 64MB)

Now, who wouldn't be all over this baby? If it looks like that, I'll probably sleep with it the first night I bring it home. :eek: :confused: :D

The iBooks/12" Powerbook G4 are VERY long in the tooth and due for a MAJOR upgrade. And the iBook is slated for a major revision, like going from the iMac G4 to iMac G5 (but probably not as drastic, as how much can you really do to a laptop?) Look at the upgrades that iMac revision received. Or even the iMac G5 Rev. A to iMac G5 Rev. B got hefty upgrades (processor speed, hard drive space, video graphics, built-in airport/bluetooth) and the price even went DOWN $100 for the 20" model.

No way Apple is going to jeopardize Macbook sales by putting in integrated graphics. I think they have felt the backlash with IG in the Mac Mini's. But most people understand those are $599/799 computers. For $1099-1599, I can't see Apple being so foolish to put integrated graphics in the thing. Plus, they want to be able to tout the performance of their 12" laptop, not make it look like a piece of crap in the 3D arena compared to 12" PC notebooks that cost half as much, which is exactly what the charts will show if Apple puts integrated grapics in the Macbook. Let's look at this again, shall we?

http://www.barefeats.com/image06/micd-utb.gif


Mark my words: NO INTEGRATED GRAPHICS FOR MACBOOKS!

After all, ImAlwaysRight. :)

[kerpow]

Please tell me, of all those who are so against having integrated graphics cards in a MacBook how many are seriously thinking of buying one themselves. Can you honestly say that you are going to buy an MacBook yourself this year, even in the MBPro is released with Merom or whatever other wonderful utilities have been speculated.

I'll bet the number is quite low.

Outside of Mac fanboy sites like this the general consensus of Apple computers is "nice computers but far too expensive".

Apple need to sell a laptop computer to compliment the Mac mini at a reasonable price, one that normal people can afford. Normal people don't use Photoshop, play Doom 3 or anything else that requires a dedicated graphics card and consequently makes the machine more expensive.

[rickvanr]

Please tell me, of all those who are so against having integrated graphics cards in a MacBook how many are seriously thinking of buying one themselves. Can you honestly say that you are going to buy an MacBook yourself this year, even in the MBPro is released with Merom or whatever other wonderful utilities have been speculated.

I'll bet the number is quite low.

Outside of Mac fanboy sites like this the general consensus of Apple computers is "nice computers but far too expensive".

Apple need to sell a laptop computer to compliment the Mac mini at a reasonable price, one that normal people can afford. Normal people don't use Photoshop, play Doom 3 or anything else that requires a dedicated graphics card and consequently makes the machine more expensive.

I'm thinking of getting one, and I'd rather have dedicated graphics. How much more expensive are the intel chips over the G4? I don't understand where these extra dollars are coming from..

[jefhatfield]

while the core solo will meet my needs as a consumer level customer, the core duo will have enough umph to run pro apps like cs and office with all the apps open at the same time

i cannot see where a macbook pro would have any advantage worth the price difference if apple came out with a core duo "ibook"

[NewMacFan]

I personally plan on buying an i/MacBook when it comes out, and I honestly believe the demand will be strong enough that I got up at 5:30 PST this morning (when Apple does the store updates) to see if the iBook had been released today, because I don't want to order mine when I get to work at 8:00 since most of the east coast will have been ordering for about 3 hours, which would mean long shipping delays for me to receive my laptop.

Just my .02, but I believe the i/MacBook will probobly be the best seller that Apple has in it's first generation Intel line.

Oh, and I have never owned an Apple before this, but I sold my HP laptop to a friend (I was thinking of upgrading anyway) in anticipation of the i/MacBook being released.

[rickvanr]

i cannot see where a macbook pro would have any advantage worth the price difference if apple came out with a core duo "ibook"

You mean, just like when the PBs were 1.5 and 1.67 and the iBook's were 1.33 and 1.42. It's the same thing.

[ImAlwaysRight]

Please tell me, of all those who are so against having integrated graphics cards in a MacBook how many are seriously thinking of buying one themselves. Can you honestly say that you are going to buy an MacBook yourself this year, even in the MBPro is released with Merom or whatever other wonderful utilities have been speculated.

I'll bet the number is quite low.
In case you can't tell, I am buying one. I've needed a Mac laptop since the beginning of January, but want a 12/13" not 15" (had 15" in the past but think it is too big). I'm not going to buy a G4 iBook when Intel is the future and has about 2x the processing power (not quite 4x like Apple wants you to believe.)

I think you'll find many of the people who post in a thread like this on a Mac rumor site about the new Macbooks are participating in the discussion because they are interested in buying one. Even if they are not going to buy one, or if they already own an Intel Mini, iMac, or MBP, what does it matter? Integrated graphics is a step backward, and no one who supports the Apple platform wants to see it take a step backward.

i cannot see where a macbook pro would have any advantage worth the price difference if apple came out with a core duo "ibook"
Things like faster processors, LARGER screen size, dual-link DVI output, metalic vs. plastic skin, are the advantage. Plus, often those buying the Pro models have the $$$ to afford it. Just like the iBook/Powerbook G4 laptops, you'll see similar configuration/pricing with the Macbooks/MBP laptops.

[kerpow]

In case you can't tell, I am buying one..... but want a 12/13" not 15"

In sounds like were arguing about different things. You want a portable Mac (I understand, I'm a 12" PB owner myself), I want to see an affordable Mac. You're assuming that the 13.3 MacBook will be the only portable Mac introduced to the Intel line. That may not necessarily be the case.


no one who supports the Apple platform wants to see it take a step backward.


Of course I agree, but sometimes Apple do things that suprise us, even anger us on occaision. Remember the resistance to flash based mp3 players before the Shuffle and Nano came out?

[Legacy]

Please tell me, of all those who are so against having integrated graphics cards in a MacBook how many are seriously thinking of buying one themselves. Can you honestly say that you are going to buy an MacBook yourself this year, even in the MBPro is released with Merom or whatever other wonderful utilities have been speculated.

I'll bet the number is quite low.

Outside of Mac fanboy sites like this the general consensus of Apple computers is "nice computers but far too expensive".

Apple need to sell a laptop computer to compliment the Mac mini at a reasonable price, one that normal people can afford. Normal people don't use Photoshop, play Doom 3 or anything else that requires a dedicated graphics card and consequently makes the machine more expensive.


I am looking to get the new MacBook PowerBook 12" replacement model, or the most expensive MacBook iBook replacement. I need a more powerful computer. The iBook isn't as fast as I would like it to be, especially on powersaver mode where it is so slow it reminds me of a Celeron 366 I owned running Windows XP.

Have a look at this configuration Sony Vaio - its probably the most expensive 'class/quality' regarded make of PC notebook at a price of £1065:

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=18181911176&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3NwZWNpZmljYXRpb25z&product_uid=105549

For those who can't be bothered, it features a 1.66Ghz Duo, 13" Screen, 512RAM, 80GB HD, DVD-RW, Modem and a Geforce 7400 Graphics Card with Turbocache..

Its £34 less than the current £1099 PowerBook G4 12". Remove the 56k Modem and its probably £50-60 less. Apple can easily sell such a spec machine at the $1499/£1099 PowerBook price with an iSight built in. Granted, lower configured models may sacrifice a dedicated GPU and HD capacity to cut costs, but we must remember that Apple must be getting a better deal on the Intel chips than Sony.

In conclusion, some people don't want the battery burning top-end Duo's and 15" screen size. I for one bought the iBook for its portability/price efficiency. But I still have an albeit low VRAM dedicated GPU. I CAN play a game - it may be crappy but at least I can play it. The benchmarks show you really cant play a new game at all on the GMA.

Regards

[Eidorian]

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=18181911176&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X3NwZWNpZmljYXRpb25z&product_uid=105549

For those who can't be bothered, it features a 1.66Ghz Duo, 13" Screen, 512RAM, 80GB HD, DVD-RW, Modem and a Geforce 7400 Graphics Card with Turbocache..

Its £34 less than the current £1099 PowerBook G4 12". Remove the 56k Modem and its probably £50-60 less. Apple can easily sell such a spec machine at the $1499/£1099 PowerBook price with an iSight built in. Granted, lower configured models may sacrifice a dedicated GPU and HD capacity to cut costs, but we must remember that Apple must be getting a better deal on the Intel chips than Sony.

In conclusion, some people don't want the battery burning top-end Duo's and 15" screen size. I for one bought the iBook for its portability/price efficiency. But I still have an albeit low VRAM dedicated GPU. I CAN play a game - it may be crappy but at least I can play it. The benchmarks show you really cant play a new game at all on the GMA.

RegardsYeah, we haven't really taken into account the dedicated video cards with partially shared memory. That card is more then likely 32/64 MB dedicated with another 64 MB shared when performance requires it. Hopefully Apple will go with at least that route.

[tonyl]

It's another 20 days waiting, how about PM intel?

[ImAlwaysRight]

From a MacWorld UK news report (http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=14373&Page=1&pagePos=1): (emphasis mine)

Meanwhile speculation continues to grow that Apple will announce an Intel-powered replacement for its current iBook models, perhaps as soon as next week on the eve of the company's financial announcement on April 19.

Some reports claim Apple will offer a choice of colours in the new iBook family, which they say will be renamed the "MacBook" family.

Apple has an arrangement with a UK firm under which that firm disposes of all Apple's ex-demo stock. That company this week announced a number of iBooks and eMacs at slightly discounted prices, inadvertently furnishing potential evidence that a move to release new consumer portables could come soon.

[macgeek2005]

Yes!!! There is light at the end of the tunnel!

[jefhatfield]

Things like faster processors, LARGER screen size, dual-link DVI output, metalic vs. plastic skin, are the advantage. Plus, often those buying the Pro models have the $$$ to afford it. Just like the iBook/Powerbook G4 laptops, you'll see similar configuration/pricing with the Macbooks/MBP laptops.

the dual-link DVI output, and possibly the metallic skin will be in the next ibook...it should be, considering what the pc side has for the same price as what the ibook will be at in the $1000-1500 dollar range

of course, it won't be as fast as the macbook pro but i don't see much difference between the two computers...ram on ibook should be 512 but hard drive will probably be considerably smaller

[tonyl]

$1000-1500? Hope so, it may start at $1200.

the dual-link DVI output, and possibly the metallic skin will be in the next ibook...it should be, considering what the pc side has for the same price as what the ibook will be at in the $1000-1500 dollar range

of course, it won't be as fast as the macbook pro but i don't see much difference between the two computers...ram on ibook should be 512 but hard drive will probably be considerably smaller

[tonyl]

From a MacWorld UK news report (http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=14373&Page=1&pagePos=1): (emphasis mine)

Next week? That's great!

[amemoryoncelost]

It's kind of funny I read this tonight. Just did a little increase in my credit amoutn through macmall, yeah yeah yeah.... So I was like, I need something portable, don't need the power of a powerbook, so maybe I'll buy an ibook. Then I think, wait, I better check macrumors and this is sitting at the top. Think I'll wait it out for another week or two to see if I might get the new "ibook."

[eXan]

the dual-link DVI output, and possibly the metallic skin will be in the next ibook

Make it with 15 inch screen and you've got the MacBook Pro! :rolleyes:

[Legacy]

Hello everyone, does anyone know anything about the upcoming 965 and 975 GMA 'next generation' iGPU's from Intel and the likeliness of Apple including hopefully the latter in its 'next generation' MacBook computer?

I know both the 965 and 975 are due in Q2 of this year...

Also, does anyone know how much these chipsets are better than the current 950 (maybe an early benchmark)? and whether they are suitable for modest gaming needs of a MacBook customer.

Regards

[ImAlwaysRight]

Posted on today's Deal-mac:

Mac Solutions Sale: iBook G4/1.2GHz 12.1" for $699, more
For its existing customers, Mac Solutions offers discounts on several Apple iBook G4 and PowerBook G4 Notebooks. A best bet: The iBook G4/1.2GHz 12" Notebook with 12.1" 1024x768 LCD, 256MB RAM, 30GB hard drive, and CD-ROM for $699. These systems are all new and factory-sealed. Deal ends April 18.

Notice ending date of April 18, which is next Tuesday, possibly the same release date for 13" Macbooks. Hmmm... could it be? ;)

[dr_lha]

Posted on today's Deal-mac:



Notice ending date of April 18, which is next Tuesday, while the other report predicted April 19 as a possible release date for 13" Macbooks. Hmmm... could it be? ;)
Nice deal, but that isn't even a current generation iBook, so I don't know what to read into that. I guess it could mean that they're expecting to get a job lot of 1.33Ghz 12" iBooks on Tuesday, so need to sell their remaining slower ones quickly.

[clarkent]

Doesn't it seem a little silly to think that Apple will replace both the iBook and 12" Powerbook with the same product?
It seems a bit more likely (and I've seen mention of this on other rumors sites) that Apple will be releasing a MacBook Thin (MOSR) to replace the 12" Powerbook (http://www.macosrumors.com/20060402A.php). This MacBook would have the dedicated VRAM that everyone seems so upset about getting, but would fall into a midrange price tier, much like the 12" Powerbook G4 did.
As for me, I'm looking to buy a new i/MacBook when they come out simply because it will accomplish what I need it to accomplish. The integrated graphics card looks like good news to me, because it will likely mean either a lower cost or a greater expenditure on other features that simply mean more to me (iSight, etc). Integrated graphics cards perform very well in my experience, getting what I need accomplished done easily. For those of you who game or feel some other need for a dedicated graphics card (though in my experience Photoshop runs fine on an integrated graphics card), the MacBook Thin would offer the middle ground between lower-end user and pro-user. For the rest of us, thank god Steve Jobs knows where to cut costs and how to keep us happy.

[bill4588]

announcement next week? this new article from applinsider says there could be.... http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1670

[justjosh]

I was browsing the (UK) Online Apple Store, as I do.

The iBook page has said 24hr ship time for months, but today it says 2 days!

Considering this is unlikely to be from a sudden, unexpected surge in demand (most people know that something is coming, and would advise others likewise), and that in my experience, ship times increase in preparation for a product replacement, I draw from this that intelibooks (macbooks / whatever the name) must be less than a week away for this update to occur - REJOICE!!


I've put a screenshot below for those too lazy to go to the apple store's website:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1006/appl6fq.png


I see that it's still 24hr on the US site, but then why else would apple have changed the UK one if not for imminent announcement?



Oh, and here's to a shiny black core duo with swivel-touchscreen ;) :D

[besiktas jk]

Everyone is excited about the upcoming macbook and guessing next tuesday as probable announcement day but I'm a little pessimistic about it. Latest rumors and discounts on current ibooks don't give enough clue that macbook is really close to appear. I don't expect it coming before May, however there is nothing wrong with being hopeful :)

[kerpow]

Whilst its terribly exciting,wasn't there a recent story that a company had been given the contract for these machines just a week or so ago. It just seems too early.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=191208

[jlewis2k1]

i'm considering in buying a mac book but i wanted to know if you members know about how much it would be? i really want to get rid of my windows computer

[kerpow]

i'm considering in buying a mac book but i wanted to know if you members know about how much it would be? i really want to get rid of my windows computer

Impossible to say, depends on what features it has. Between $1000 and $1500. Higher price range is likely if there is a dedicated graphics card. Have a read through some of the earlier posts.

[ImAlwaysRight]

announcement next week? this new article from applinsider says there could be.... http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1670
AI is references the same article (http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=14373&Page=1&pagePos=1) I posted above. AI is only a day late reporting it, but I guess they are not as jazzed as I am about the new books. :D

I personally don't think we will see new Macbooks next Tuesday. Its too early. But I'm ready for it as soon as Apple can get their act together. I'll be down at my local Apple Store the day I read the good news on this beautiful forum. I've got 2x1GB DDR2-PC5300 memory modules ready to install, as well as a 100GB 7200RPM SATA laptop hard drive. Don't worry, I'll post picts, and we will all know the day of release whether or not it has a socketed CPU. ;) :D

[Legacy]

announcement next week? this new article from applinsider says there could be.... http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1670

Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz
512MB DDR2 RAM
13.3" WIDE TFT
Radeon X1300/1400 128MB GPU
SuperDrive
Airport/Bluetooth and Fully Features in/out Soundcard
80GB HDD 5400rpms
Backlit Keyboard
iSight and FrontRow

£1000 and I'm yours truly :D

[Mal]

Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz
512MB DDR2 RAM
13.3" WIDE TFT
Radeon X1300/1400 128MB GPU
SuperDrive
Airport/Bluetooth and Fully Features in/out Soundcard
80GB HDD 5400rpms
Backlit Keyboard
iSight and FrontRow

£1000 and I'm yours truly :D

Drop the Superdrive (Combo drive on that model almost definitely, it'll cost you extra for the SD), and perhaps make it either a Core Solo 1.5 or Integrated Graphics (hopefully not both, but you never know) and you've probably got a good idea of what we're going to see in the lower model. I dunno if they'll even make that model £1000, the current top-end one isn't, is it?

jW

[thecheda]

I already have my macbook pro, but if the new "macbooks" manufacture in black, ill be one step closer to becoming obsessed.

[MacRumorsReader]

I have a hard time believing that the MB will have a backlit keyboard. I do think that it is possible for Apple to pull off a 999 version. But I doubt they will.

Black..... yummy.

[peanut48]

hey i was jus checkin the US Apple store online and saw that the green shipping time on the macbook pro is missing.....hmmmm...i wonder wat that could mean???....r the macbooks finally comin???

[iEdd]

Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz
512MB DDR2 RAM
13.3" WIDE TFT
Radeon X1300/1400 128MB GPU
SuperDrive
Airport/Bluetooth and Fully Features in/out Soundcard
80GB HDD 5400rpms
Backlit Keyboard
iSight and FrontRow

£1000 and I'm yours truly :D
Holy Jesus. I can't see a backlit keyboard. In a laptop that size I'd expect iSight, but no frontrow. Hopefully a 64MB Gfx card, not IIG. Everything else the same. About $1200US and I'm sold. :)

[riko]

I was browsing the (UK) Online Apple Store, as I do.

The iBook page has said 24hr ship time for months, but today it says 2 days!

Considering this is unlikely to be from a sudden, unexpected surge in demand (most people know that something is coming, and would advise others likewise), and that in my experience, ship times increase in preparation for a product replacement, I draw from this that intelibooks (macbooks / whatever the name) must be less than a week away for this update to occur - REJOICE!!




It could mean that however if you look, every single Mac on the uk store has a ship time of 2 days now. even the macbook pros which were shipping in 24hrs the last time I checked.

riko

[Legacy]

Drop the Superdrive (Combo drive on that model almost definitely, it'll cost you extra for the SD), and perhaps make it either a Core Solo 1.5 or Integrated Graphics (hopefully not both, but you never know) and you've probably got a good idea of what we're going to see in the lower model. I dunno if they'll even make that model £1000, the current top-end one isn't, is it?

jW


Drop the SuperDrive? This model is around $1700 in America, so it would be roughtly $1400 asking price (we are overpriced over here by far).

I think it would be reasonable to ask for a dedicated GPU and SuperDrive along with 80GB HDD at this price...don't you?

[Burai]

I was browsing the (UK) Online Apple Store, as I do.

The iBook page has said 24hr ship time for months, but today it says 2 days!

Considering this is unlikely to be from a sudden, unexpected surge in demand (most people know that something is coming, and would advise others likewise), and that in my experience, ship times increase in preparation for a product replacement, I draw from this that intelibooks (macbooks / whatever the name) must be less than a week away for this update to occur - REJOICE!!

It's bank holiday weekend and there's nobody in to process orders. All products are delayed by two days as you can see if you surf around.

[pincho]

just give me a 13.3" MacBook with DVI out and, dont think many have mentioned, optical out, i would love to play 5.1 :D

[bwanac]

just give me a 13.3" MacBook with DVI out and, dont think many have mentioned, optical out, i would love to play 5.1 :D

Ditto.

[jefhatfield]

Make it with 15 inch screen and you've got the MacBook Pro! :rolleyes:

i may be dreaming, but consider an intermediate product, replacing the 12" inch powerbook, but scaling the stats down, to integrated graphics, like mentioned in a previous post on this thread, keeping the metal body and thin looks but being more in the ibook price range

the first revision ibook had great styling, the second revision brought the form factor into a thin and light plastic body, and it would be nice to have an aluminum powerbook looking ibook, but that may be stretching it

but keep the hard drive size down and integrate the graphics and you may keep it, in this day and age to a thousand bucks for a core solo model...the pc side does it and so can we

[ImAlwaysRight]

Holy Jesus. I can't see a backlit keyboard. In a laptop that size I'd expect iSight, but no frontrow. Hopefully a 64MB Gfx card, not IIG. Everything else the same. About $1200US and I'm sold. :)
Dirty crippled children. I think since the iMac, MacBook Pro, and even $599 Mini Intels all have Front Row, its a pretty safe bet to say the MacBook will have it as well. :rolleyes:

We need more Macbook rumors, and we need them ... now.

[Bern]

Of course like everyone else I've watched the progression of the Intel laptop with interest.

Because my partner has just upgraded his computer this month I'll be waiting until April next year to upgrade my 12" Powerbook. Considering I'll have to upgrade my Adobe/Macromedia suites and Corel Painter to Intel versions as well I'm very keen to see what the MacBooks (aka Intel iBook) will be. The MacBook Pro will be a little too expensive to buy when I also have to buy new versions (Adobe probably won't be releasing upgrades) of major software suites.

I know traditionally the Powerbook was preferred over an iBook for using such software but I'm thinking that because Intel is now in the foray the MacBook will be somewhat better than the iBook currently is in terms of screen resolution/brightness, video card, processor speed, etc. I suppose too that by the time I do upgrade to MacBook would have seen at least one revision.

[iEdd]

Dirty crippled children. I think since the iMac, MacBook Pro, and even $599 Mini Intels all have Front Row, its a pretty safe bet to say the MacBook will have it as well. :rolleyes:
Yeah, it probably will, but it's definitely not necessary. Who is going to sit more than a foot away from a 13" screen when watching a movie? I suppose you could argue it would be useful for playing music, but you better have external speakers :p

[rhsgolfer33]

Yeah, it probably will, but it's definitely not necessary. Who is going to sit more than a foot away from a 13" screen when watching a movie? I suppose you could argue it would be useful for playing music, but you better have external speakers :p

I think frontrow would be great. Plug it into my monitor on my desk and I can sit on my bed and watch videos/dvds without having to get up to fastforward, pause, etc. Great for music from my desk as well. People seem to forget that laptops arent always in the lap.

[macgeek2005]

This is exactly what the MacBook is gonna be like. Don't click it until they're released. http://apple.com

[Surreal]

anyone know if apple has a keynote at NAB?

[Eldentistfuturo]

My credit card is waiting for tuesday!!

[Willis]

This is exactly what the MacBook is gonna be like. Don't click it until they're released. http://apple.com

LOL! smooooth

[weldon]

The top of the line MacBook WILL have dedicated graphics. I SWEAR IT. It can't be any other way. I am willing to give each and every member of this site $100,000 if none of the MacBook's come with dedicated graphics. That's how confident I am.
Can I get my $100,000 in cash?

[eXan]

Can I get my $100,000 in cash?

I also pedicted that they will include IG in it, can I get at least 2000$? :D