First Revolution screenshots

[Dagless]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/elmoco/124806830/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/elmoco/124806829/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/elmoco/124817433/in/photostream/

From a game called Red Steel. A rather "urban" looking FPS. Not my kind of thing, but certainly a good showcase for how an FPS will work (tilt gun etc). for a £120 console I'm very impressed :)

[Abulia]

I so dislike my over-zealous web filter at work. :mad:

[Verto]

I hope we see better graphics than that.

[takao]

From a game called Red Steel. A rather "urban" looking FPS. Not my kind of thing, but certainly a good showcase for how an FPS will work (tilt gun etc). for a £120 console I'm very impressed :)

man.. beat me to it.. i just saw them and headed back and BLAM you were faster ;)

another link with more infos on the game:
http://gameinformer.com/News/Story/200604/N06.0407.1251.24078.htm
the game is from Ubisoft Paris and from the magazine cover swords are involved too... looks like this is the rumored "katana" title

[PlaceofDis]

nice. i can't wait to play.

[cartoonfox]

I hope we see better graphics than that.
Well, just stop now and save up for a PS3.
Seriously.

raggedjimmi - good man for posting this so fast! : ]
I've been looking at them on other forums too. at first i thought they might be concept art renders, but taking a second look it seems like they might be in game. plus apparentley they have been confirmed as in-game, though i'm not sure who by.
This game is supposed to have swords and stuff in too, I may get it if it's good. I don;t mind violent games when done cleverly. I trust UbiSoft.


peace

[combatcolin]

I hope we see better graphics than that.

Look fine to me.

As as the Rev will cost the same as a Mars bar and a can of Coke, all the more impressive.

[cartoonfox]

lol : ]

compared to PS3 anyway!

[paddy]

Pretty nice for £120! I'll definitely be looking into one of these. Id say the gameplay in fantastic, just like duckhunt all over again :p

[Bubbasteve]

Pretty nice for £120! I'll definitely be looking into one of these. Id say the gameplay in fantastic, just like duckhunt all over again :p

Except this time the "ducks" shoot back

[paddy]

Except this time the "ducks" shoot back

:p

[Phobophobia]

Looks great.

[Dagless]

Look fine to me.

As as the Rev will cost the same as a Mars bar and a can of Coke, all the more impressive.

Hah! brilliant.

I had a Mars and Coke today, incidentally O_o

[Dagless]

I was going to say, when I first saw and heard about the Rev controller, like countless millions I thought about lightsabres first and forthmost. but now. I dunno, After seeing those screenshots I've realised that FPS's are going to be amazing with that controller.

Once more we're brought back to the power of the Rev and the never ending rumours. A souped up Xbox, 2x more powerful than the GC. I think we can all pretty much agree on the "in SD resolutions all next gen systems will look the same", whoever originally said that.

[Motley]

Back in the Lethal Enforcers days where all arcade shooters were on rails I always thought about having a second controller that would move the character.

Then the revolution's controller was announced and that's what my first thought was about (along with OMG, WTF, Nintendo is crazy). Then came the light sabers.

[Haoshiro]

Man, what do people want? LOL.

What I'm seeing are photos taken from a printed magazine, definitely not what anyone would describe as good picture conditions... and what I do see looks really good, I can't say I've seen pics from ANY system that was much better. Looks great to me?

Seriously... I see nothing in those cammed screenshots that is dissappointing... :P

[mrgreen4242]

I'm impressed with the graphics to be honest. The models aren't amazingly high poly count, and the textures are just decent rather than incredible, but the lighting looks terrific and there is certainly no lack of detail in these (albeit limited) pics.

I think that people are going to be pleasantly surprised when see how good a GameCube x2 actually looks.

EDIT to add that while it's just a camera shot of a magazine, it does look like the game COULD be in a 16:9 aspect ratio, which bodes well for HDTV owners... 480p widescreen isn't HD but it sure is nicer than 4:3 SD.

[cartoonfox]

yes i think it is 16:9 ratio.

also, notice the gamble machines, they are not flat models with texture they are detailed models, with nice looking lighting coming off.
I'd say the only thing that is of a "less than high" quality is the characters. but to be honest, in this day and age of war games where everyone is wearing combat clothes with buckles and knife holders and random bumps on helmets etc. etc., this is just some guys in hoodies and jeans! : ] so it's not fair to compare Character models to, say, "GRAW" for example.

If you read about the gameplay, it sounds awesome some of the thing you can do with the controller:
- To throw a grenade you "throw" the controller towards to screen (keep holding it of course!) and the grenade throws depending on speed and angle etc.
or you can do an underpass throw movement to roll a grenade along the floor!
- You can shoot "gangster style" by rotating the controller, and the on screen arm and gun rotate accordingly, to shoot "sideways"!
- if you run next to a table you can move the controller upwards to throw the table up on it's side and use it for cover. and then pull back on the controller to reload.

That's all i got yet, once the magazine comes out, someone in the US go get it and tell us all the details! apparently there's 11 pages on RED STEEL with loads of in-game screens!


peace

[2nyRiggz]

Doesn't look very interesting at all. looks very rail shooting killer 8 thing....but to each there own...the graphics are meh...but the controls seem nice.


Bless

[cartoonfox]

No it's not on rails. you use the nunchuck add on to strafe around and stuff.

And anyway, even if you don't like the look of this game, you can't deny that it's great as a whole for the Revolution.
I mean, the first Revolution game shown, and it involves guns, swords, and choping people up!! talk about removing Nintendo's Kiddy image! I heard Nintendo is even helping UbiSoft Paris out with making the game!

This is exactly what will bring in the casual "i want to kill people" gamers. i think once it's shown at E3 with videos, and an in depth look at the gameplay, it will get a lot of people very excited. It will make 360 and PS3's controllers look and feel old and dated! I mean, I felt like playing time splitters 3 and now i just can't be bothered, I want a Revolution controller to play!!
As you said though, to each his own.
(oh, and btw, Killer7 was and is an amazing game!)


peace

[kretzy]

Doesn't look very interesting at all. looks very rail shooting killer 8 thing....but to each there own...the graphics are meh...but the controls seem nice.


Bless
Agreed. Not really my type of game, but I'm still excited that every day brings us closer to Revolution! :p

[illegalprelude]

dude...what was that arcade game...OLD SCHOOL. reminds me of that. hahaha those games were awesome

[GFLPraxis]

We've got all the shots mirrored here at NintendoPlayers:
http://www.nintendoplayers.com/article.php?articleID=199
Plus two extra Jimmi didn't post:)

Congrats, jimmi. You actually beat me to Revolution news :D

Anyway, I doubt I will get the game. It doesn't appeal to me. But it DOES appeal to many, and it shows the Revolution's graphics (looks great for a first gen game on a budget system. Looks better than King Kong on the 360 IMHO), and should help kill Nintendo's kiddie image, so I'm happy.

also, notice the gamble machines, they are not flat models with texture they are detailed models, with nice looking lighting coming off.

Lighting looks spectacular as do the machines- but the vending machine looks like a flat textured model.

[GFLPraxis]

I was going to say, when I first saw and heard about the Rev controller, like countless millions I thought about lightsabres first and forthmost. but now. I dunno, After seeing those screenshots I've realised that FPS's are going to be amazing with that controller.

Metroid Prime 3.
*drools*

[Haoshiro]

Mmm... Metroid Prime 3! And Zelda (Sword, Hookshot, Grapling, Bow, Bombs, etc...)

Still... one thing I'm really wondering about is controller calibration... (calculating depth, etc, is one thing... but figuring out where exactly i'm point on the screen?) That affects any precision oriented game (shooting, baseball, etc.)

[rockthecasbah]

graphics im not going to comment on because who knows what they: A. Look like in person. B. Will look like as final products C. Will look like for other games (this is 1 game, one that probably won't be that good, just a title to sell. I will however say that from the picture it looks just like those games that you are taken along in the arcades, stop and shoot out people walking towards you, and then keep moving to do the same thing. Now it will probably be way different, but that's my first impression. Im very interested to see RE whatever title it will be for comparison, and by E3 some more genres of games...;)

[Verto]

Look fine to me.

As as the Rev will cost the same as a Mars bar and a can of Coke, all the more impressive.

Those graphics, to me, just seem to be inferior to what the Xbox, or even the GameCube, could offer. Maybe it is just the picture.

[GFLPraxis]

Those graphics, to me, just seem to be inferior to what the Xbox, or even the GameCube, could offer. Maybe it is just the picture.

:confused:
I think something is wrong with your eyes, man.
It looks better than King Kong on the 360 to me.

Hopefully this is a sign that Revolution games will look like low end XBox 360 games. I'll settle with that if I get the controller.

[GFLPraxis]

Mmm... Metroid Prime 3! And Zelda (Sword, Hookshot, Grapling, Bow, Bombs, etc...)

Still... one thing I'm really wondering about is controller calibration... (calculating depth, etc, is one thing... but figuring out where exactly i'm point on the screen?) That affects any precision oriented game (shooting, baseball, etc.)

I have a pretty good guess on how that works.

There's a sensor you put on or next to or otherwise lined up with your TV; IGN has posted mockups based on the ones they say at a development studio. It's got two recievers on it. I'd assume there's the third reciever on the Revolution controller. With the three recievers, I imagine it can triangulate the position...OR...the two receivers essentially define a plane lined up with your TV screen, and you simply calibrate it by pointing and clicking to the edges of the screen to let it know where the borders are, as it knows the angle and can calculate where it intersects the plane.

Complete guesses as to how it works.

[BlizzardBomb]

For an unfinished game, that looks great (especially for a sub-£150 console)! :)

[greatdevourer]

Those graphics, to me, just seem to be inferior to what the Xbox, or even the GameCube, could offer. Maybe it is just the picture. Read the article - it's because of a low-quality digital camera used instead of a proper scanner.

I hope they bring this to Gamestars Live, although it'll probably be taken by the time the Tube gets me there :p

[takao]

from the article: ".., pull back the controller to reload"
looks like we weren't the only ones who got that idea ;)

jostiq has updated their posting on the screens with some parts of the story from the article

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/07/red-steel-first-revolution-screens-revealed/

it seems you will get extra stuff/points/weapons/different paths when you takeout enemies without killing them (shooting weapons out of hands etc.)

[iGav]

Looks really good to me (though I'm not a FPS fan), very intrigued by the controller... kudos to Nintendo for thinking outside the box with that one. :D

[Dagless]

I don't know how people can complain about the graphics. I mean from a technical standpoint they are beside the 360, DirectX 10 graphics.

-Projected soft shadows
-The only polygon I can see is the back of the gun
-Motion blur, Depth of Field
-Bloom
-Some form of HDR lighting (Aperture changing, contrast)
-People don't look shiny

I don't recall any Xbox or GC game having all of the above.

oh, check out the 4th shot on GLFPraxis's site. Sword fight! haha. Now that I can't wait for.

Metroid Prime 3.
*drools*

Shut up. Just... shut up. Prime 3 with graphics on par with Red Steel, if not BETTER (1st party knows better). AND with Samus's arm. AND with the exploration and gameplay from the first 2 Prime games. I'd cry. I'd break down on the floor and cry.

[MacRumorUser]

:confused:
I think something is wrong with your eyes, man.
It looks better than King Kong on the 360 to me.

Hopefully this is a sign that Revolution games will look like low end XBox 360 games. I'll settle with that if I get the controller.

Yeah I agree. WTF are these people seeing that i'm not? It looks increddible in those shot's and if I had just seen those shots without knowing it was for the rev, I would have thought wow that's a **** hot looking 360 or ps3 title...

If the rev can pull that power out of it's little interior then I'm delighted... But as we all know screen shots from development can often look better (or at times worse) than the final product. But my hopes are high.. :)

[takao]

If the rev can pull that power out of it's little interior then I'm delighted... But as we all know screen shots from development can often look better (or at times worse) than the final product. But my hopes are high.. :)

yeah it' always the saem... anybody remembers the awfull first Perfect dark zero screens ? or how some command and conquer title ended up looking worse ?

we will see around E3 or when the first videos come around of the game but if it looks close to this graphics wise i'm perfectly fine

that aside it needs to be said that because of the similar/same architecture to the cube some developers might be a able to squeeze good graphics out sooner

[turbopants]

With a lot of classic Nintendo games going to be available for emulation and download, it will be sweet to use this new controller with NES classics such as Hogan's Alley and Duck Hunt. These new screenshots do look pretty impressive.

[takao]

i just read on gamefront.de that George Harrison (Nintendo Senior Vice President of Marketing & Communications) confirmed to Game Informer that there will be around 20 Launch titles for the Revolution launch of which ~ 1/3 will be developed by Nintendo

for launch it's "around the end of the year"

i guess the current Game Informer is worth a buy (too bad it's not available here)

[calyxman]

Still won't be convinced of anything until at least E3. I just have a feeling big N has a few more tricks up its sleaves.

[Dagless]

20 launch titles is a fair bit. Didn't the Cube launch with 7 originally? and the DS with 6/8 *forget*.

6 Nintendo games eh. I think we can all be assured of a Smash Bros Rev launch game. That is all I need :cool:

calyxman; Nintendo have said on many occasions that they have plenty to reveal. Either Iwata or Shigsy said that it's bigger than the gyroscope controller. So they say.

[mechamac]

If the bulk of Nintendo's Rev launch titles are 3rd party games, that certainly is a healthy sign for the Revolution. Hopefully they can keep up the momentum.

I think those graphics look veddy nice. Probably "enhanced" screenshots, but I suspect the real game wouldn't look vastly different.

[Dagless]

I reckon the contrast has been fiddled a little, i mean it's been printed and then photographed.

Just been reading about the game on NintendoPlayers. It sounds like my kind of game after all, it's not a totally mindless urban shooter/sword fighter. It's good to defeat enemies but not to kill them. I like that.

mechamac; as I keep saying all over these forums. Everything in the games world is changing. :)

[GFLPraxis]

I don't know how people can complain about the graphics. I mean from a technical standpoint they are beside the 360, DirectX 10 graphics.

-Projected soft shadows
-The only polygon I can see is the back of the gun
-Motion blur, Depth of Field
-Bloom
-Some form of HDR lighting (Aperture changing, contrast)
-People don't look shiny

I don't recall any Xbox or GC game having all of the above.

oh, check out the 4th shot on GLFPraxis's site. Sword fight! haha. Now that I can't wait for.



Shut up. Just... shut up. Prime 3 with graphics on par with Red Steel, if not BETTER (1st party knows better). AND with Samus's arm. AND with the exploration and gameplay from the first 2 Prime games. I'd cry. I'd break down on the floor and cry.

That's the weird thing. According to IGN's specs they've given, they claim the Revolution's GPU has no new effects and functions. So according to IGN it should be incapable of HDR, bloom, soft shadows (did the GC have soft shadows? not sure), or anything else the GC couldn't do.

Even more reason to believe that IGN's specs are an earlier gamecube-based kit (or some of the info is wrong, like that about the GPU).

[takao]

That's the weird thing. According to IGN's specs they've given, they claim the Revolution's GPU has no new effects and functions. So according to IGN it should be incapable of HDR, bloom, soft shadows (did the GC have soft shadows? not sure), or anything else the GC couldn't do.

Even more reason to believe that IGN's specs are an earlier gamecube-based kit (or some of the info is wrong, like that about the GPU).

well since the gpu got finalized as the last i guess not everthing might be correct.. after all adding those effects seems kinda obvious

i guess we have to wait untill E3 or longer for that... (1 month left...)

[combatcolin]

PICTURE THE SCENE

Man walks into game store and looks at the 360, like's it but can't afford £280 for the machine.

PICTURE THE SCENE

Man walks into game store and looks at the Revolution, priced at £120 and spends the next hour walking around other stores thinking if he should buy it.

And then guess what he does?

;)

Nintendo have created the 1st "Impluse Purchase" games console.

[illegalprelude]

:confused:
I think something is wrong with your eyes, man.
It looks better than King Kong on the 360 to me.

Hopefully this is a sign that Revolution games will look like low end XBox 360 games. I'll settle with that if I get the controller.

eerrr....thats almost possible minus the fact that the Revo is weaker then the original Xbox, if the specs around are true but I would hold jugdment till I actually see the game and not Dev. screen shots from a Mags.

Side note, Kong looks sweet. what are u talkin about?

[Dagless]

Again I'll say *so long as the rumoured specs are true* the GC had equal power to the Xbox yet was half it's speed. Nintendo outrightly said the Rev is more than twice as powerful.

AND the fact the screen shots show visual effects that the rumours say are impossible.

I know a small time games studio in Manchester bought a development kit a while ago. If I can break into their office and find out what the first revision kits were like then perhaps I could shed some light on the power issue, which dogs oh-so many Nintendo haters.

[GFLPraxis]

eerrr....thats almost possible minus the fact that the Revo is weaker then the original Xbox, if the specs around are true but I would hold jugdment till I actually see the game and not Dev. screen shots from a Mags.

Side note, Kong looks sweet. what are u talkin about?

Don't be silly, did you actually READ the thread we had about it?

The Rev is more powerful than the XBox. IGN made a retarded comparison between the clock speed of a PowerPC and a Pentium 3 that performs closer to a Celeron.

King Kong does look good, and about the same as these screenshots. I'd say in fact that these screenshots might have better lighting than Kong.

[Peyton]

All I gotta say is, we better see some zelda games that look better than 'paper zelda' aka wind waker...

[Haoshiro]

GFLPraxis: I believe they said there wouldn't be any more effects on the GPU then that of the GCN, the GCN had quite a lot though!

illegalprelude: Lower "MHz" does not equal lower "specs", think of it like Gas Usage; just because a car consumes more gas then another doesn't mean it's faster.

Peyton: Personally I thought Wind Waker looked great (reminded me of Zelda:LttP); sure it wasn't 'realistic' but I think the cartoon effect has not been done better, some people might not like the art style but that doesn't make it "bad." ;) Yeah, I would have preferred a more realistic art style, but they pulled the style off they chose very well.

[illegalprelude]

Do people just like not finish reading most of my posts? Hence me saying I hold judgment till I actually see the game. All im saying is we know how Devs show games off. Dosent matter what system its for. It can be the Revo, Killzone for PS3, Halo 2 for xbox. Dev's always of course show screen shots on a $30k maxed out computer.

[Dagless]

GFLPraxis: I believe they said there wouldn't be any more effects on the GPU then that of the GCN, the GCN had quite a lot though!

illegalprelude: Lower "MHz" does not equal lower "specs", think of it like Gas Usage; just because a car consumes more gas then another doesn't mean it's faster.

Peyton: Personally I thought Wind Waker looked great (reminded me of Zelda:LttP); sure it wasn't 'realistic' but I think the cartoon effect has not been done better, some people might not like the art style but that doesn't make it "bad." ;) Yeah, I would have preferred a more realistic art style, but they pulled the style off they chose very well.

Windwaker was fantastic and I wouldn't have had it any other way. Keep the cartoon looking Zelda and the more realistic Zelda. Both are acceptable to a series as long running and versatile as this series.

[Dagless]

Did you not see the Xbox 360 dev kits? Sure they cost a fortune but they presented downscaled versions of 360 games :confused: Project Gotham with no AA etc.

[GFLPraxis]

Did you not see the Xbox 360 dev kits? Sure they cost a fortune but they presented downscaled versions of 360 games :confused: Project Gotham with no AA etc.

Gears of War ran at like 10 FPS and Full Auto at like 15-20. They claimed the dev kits were 1/5th the final power.

[p0intblank]

That looks really nice. It has me interested! :D

[Peyton]

Windwaker was fantastic and I wouldn't have had it any other way. Keep the cartoon looking Zelda and the more realistic Zelda. Both are acceptable to a series as long running and versatile as this series.


I agree. I never said it looked bad, its just I have grown up with a progression of more realistic looking links and then wind waker (not a step backwards, just different) so I am hoping for the in the room with me look to the next link

[MacsomJRR]

yes but can it run windows? :p

[Poff]

I too thought it looked worse than gamecube. but it's probably because of my untrained eyes. I look at the unrealistic man, and the pastel-coloured trousers, and I compare it to the realistic graphics in Resident Evil 4..

[shadowmoses]

Those screenshots look better and better each time i see them, things are really looking good for nintendo....

I can't wait to get my hands on a Rev for a variety of reasons....

1. The controller idea thingy looks amazing
2. Its Cheap
3. I wanna play Resi 4 and Metal Gear Twin Snakes
4. Its a stunning piece of hardware
5. Backwards compatible, all the classics will be replayed!


SHadoW

[Dagless]

they're really hitting back against perceptions now.

-more advertising
-more adult games (i mean the first images leaked are an 18's)
-cheap machine (expensive N64)
-much bigger 3rd party support
-appealing to non-gamers alongside regular gamers
-common storage medium
-no propietary memory cards *sorry! I'm on a PC. no spell checker + I'm up early :( *

My motto comes back to haunt me "evreything will change" :D :cool:

[DeSnousa]

they're really hitting back against perceptions now.

-more advertising
-more adult games (i mean the first images leaked are an 18's)
-cheap machine (expensive N64)
-much bigger 3rd party support
-appealing to non-gamers alongside regular gamers
-common storage medium
-no propietary memory cards *sorry! I'm on a PC. no spell checker + I'm up early :( *

My motto comes back to haunt me "evreything will change" :D :cool:

What advertising? I've seen none down here in Australia.

The console is looking sweeter and sweeter :D

[Dagless]

What advertising? I've seen none down here in Australia.

The console is looking sweeter and sweeter :D

Yea sorry my post was UK centric. I've seen US adverts for Nintendo stuff. only adverts I've seen prior to the DS was about the GC launch and a few random GBA games. Now Nintendo is pretty much sponsoring every Channel 4 comedy and the Mario Kart advert is played a lot!

I think the Iwata and Reggie "upgrade" has really helped Nintendo.

[combatcolin]

Nintendos's advertising has always been awful.

They just don't know how to market games in the West any more

And becasue of this Nintendo reley heavily on word of mouth and magazine reviews to shift hardware and software.

[Haoshiro]

I think the Iwata and Reggie "upgrade" has really helped Nintendo.

I agree; Reggie seems to have quite a good advertising rep and that can only be good for Nintendo.

As for no proprietary memory cards... i'm pretty sure you can still use GameCube memory cards on it, look next to the GCN controller ports.

[kretzy]

What advertising? I've seen none down here in Australia.

The console is looking sweeter and sweeter :D

Knowing our luck, we'll probably have to wait 3 months before it's available here. :rolleyes: :mad:

[Dagless]

I agree; Reggie seems to have quite a good advertising rep and that can only be good for Nintendo.

As for no proprietary memory cards... i'm pretty sure you can still use GameCube memory cards on it, look next to the GCN controller ports.

Aye thats for backwards compatibility. So chances are you already have a GC if you plan on using those ports.
Though I hope they somehow get SD cards to act as memory cards for the Cube too. I mean I could finally back up my game saves, and download completed saves. *fingers crossed*

[GFLPraxis]

I agree; Reggie seems to have quite a good advertising rep and that can only be good for Nintendo.

As for no proprietary memory cards... i'm pretty sure you can still use GameCube memory cards on it, look next to the GCN controller ports.

That's for using your old memory cards. It has 512 MB of built in memory + SD cards for memory cards + support for USB storage like hard drives and flash drives.

[Dagless]

I have a nice little external HDD connected through FireWire to my PowerBook. COULD I partition off, say 10gb, format that to Fat32 and have the Rev (or any other system) AND my PowerBook see the Fat32 partition? My external case has 1 FireWire and 2 USB2 outputs you see. Just that would make my life so much easier and be so convenient.

[GFLPraxis]

I have a nice little external HDD connected through FireWire to my PowerBook. COULD I partition off, say 10gb, format that to Fat32 and have the Rev (or any other system) AND my PowerBook see the Fat32 partition? My external case has 1 FireWire and 2 USB2 outputs you see. Just that would make my life so much easier and be so convenient.

Nobody knows what formats the Rev will read.

[crachoar]

I'm not really impressed because it looks like pre-rendered art, rather than in-game. The lighting on the models just looks a little 'fake'.

Still, if it can pull off something that looks similar, in 480p, I'd be sort of happy. Although, I can't tell you enough how much I'd love to play Zelda in 1080i.

As far as the controller is concerned for anything realistic - I just don't see it happening. When you operate a sidearm, you don't 'one-hand' it like an action movie star. Plus, your gun arm would tire fairly quick without the support of the other arm.

I don't feel it will add any 'realism' to games, considering most weapons are operated (effectively) with two hands (which would then make it impossible for you to use your other hand to walk). But I do feel that it will offer more precise 'mouse and keyboard' style aiming to console FPS games.

Now, Tennis, on the other hand - will pwn.

We'll wait and see I suppose...

[GFLPraxis]

I'm not really impressed because it looks like pre-rendered art, rather than in-game. The lighting on the models just looks a little 'fake'.



It's not pre-rendered. The GameInformer guys actually played that, and a Ubisoft representative on IGN's boards attested that they were not concept renders.

[Counterfit]

- You can shoot "gangster style" by rotating the controller, and the on screen arm and gun rotate accordingly, to shoot "sideways"!
Oh sure, you could do that, but you really shouldn't (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6040616114522244709&q=shoot+not&pl=true).

[greatdevourer]

When you operate a sidearm, you don't 'one-hand' it like an action movie star. Plus, your gun arm would tire fairly quick without the support of the other arm.

I don't feel it will add any 'realism' to games, considering most weapons are operated (effectively) with two hands (which would then make it impossible for you to use your other hand to walk) You would be suprised, although it is easier and generally more accurate to use 2. However, 1 handed usage is more than possible. We don't know what gun he's using, how strong he is, etc, etc

[Dagless]

Oh sure, you could do that, but you really shouldn't (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6040616114522244709&q=shoot+not&pl=true).

hah!

But he might have shot a fish or 2 :eek:

...Why do people shoot sideways? I've never understood that

[2nyRiggz]

I can see it now...Nintendo will have me working for my own entertainment..LOL...i don't need to go to the gym now with all the bobbin and weavin i will be doing playing the REV...i'm loving it


Bless

[crachoar]

You would be suprised...

No, I wouldn't be. If you've ever fired a gun (besides maybe a .22LR calibur), you'd know that you won't hit much with one hand in rapid succession, or at longer engagement ranges. At least not beyond 5m. Pistols have an especially high recoil rate, so firing like that (with any amount of accuracy) in video games just isn't possible in real life.

Mostly, I'm just tired of unrealistic 'arcade' FPS games which have all failed, misserably, to capture the true essence of a gunfight.

...Why do people shoot sideways? I've never understood that

They don't. But it's funny watching the 'freedom fighters' in Africa fight. They all run around in hip-hop clothes, holding their AKs sideways...

Some people believe everything they see on TV.

Always a good laugh.

[Poff]

I can see it now...Nintendo will have me working for my own entertainment..LOL...i don't need to go to the gym now with all the bobbin and weavin i will be doing playing the REV...i'm loving it


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Actually, you can choose to just use your wrist on most fps's, and I guess on most games generally. That's what they say, anyways..

[Poff]

Meesa be the king of NintendoPlayers! :D

Hey Praxis. You might want to update this..

[Abulia]

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I think something is wrong with your eyes, man.
It looks better than King Kong on the 360 to me.Then apparently you haven't seen KK on the 360 in HD.

Sure, the game is crap (KK) but it looks amazing. The fact that you could hold this stance ("looks better than King Kong") just flushes all credibility down the toilet, frankly.

[GFLPraxis]

Then apparently you haven't seen KK on the 360 in HD.

Sure, the game is crap (KK) but it looks amazing. The fact that you could hold this stance ("looks better than King Kong") just flushes all credibility down the toilet, frankly.

I've played the game- I'm not talking about the environments, but the characters. The lighting and effects look to be on part with King Kong on the 360. And I'm talking about KK in SD. Of course, King Kong running in HD will blow away these screenshots. That much is obvious. Hooked up to a regular TV however they look to be on par.

Now FIGHT NIGHT on the other hand blows away this game.

[srobert]

Mostly, I'm just tired of unrealistic 'arcade' FPS games which have all failed, misserably, to capture the true essence of a gunfight.


Sounds like you could me more interested in a shooting simulator than a shooting game. Are there any out there? Also, I hope you never had to experience the true essence of a gunfight. ;) Funny. I just imagined the Simpson's comic book guy saying that above quote and it somehow sounded like something he could say. :D

Sure realism is nice but not at the expense of fun (methinks). Might be a question of taste but I prefer games like Crimsom Skies than games like Microsoft Flight Simulator. Sure, bumping into a mountain a few times before crashing is quite unrealistic but sure beats being game over every 10 seconds.

[2nyRiggz]

I would hope there would be bobbin n weaving in this game...that makes it fun man!!


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[Abulia]

I've played the game- I'm not talking about the environments, but the characters. The lighting and effects look to be on part with King Kong on the 360. And I'm talking about KK in SD. Of course, King Kong running in HD will blow away these screenshots. That much is obvious. Hooked up to a regular TV however they look to be on par.See, this is the problem, I think its disengenous at best to make these comments without stating upfront, "in SD." The 360, and all of its games, are made and intended for HD monitors; pumping **** down to the level of SD or the Revolution isn't a fair comparison.

That's like taking a new Intel iMac, using software to clock down the FSB/chip and then putting it up against a G4 and stating the G4 is "just as good."

I think the screenshots from a poorly-scanned magazine look okay, but I think its something of a leap to draw a comparision versus any system, let alone a 360 crippled in SD, until seen firsthand.

[GFLPraxis]

See, this is the problem, I think its disengenous at best to make these comments without stating upfront, "in SD." The 360, and all of its games, are made and intended for HD monitors; pumping **** down to the level of SD or the Revolution isn't a fair comparison.

That's like taking a new Intel iMac, using software to clock down the FSB/chip and then putting it up against a G4 and stating the G4 is "just as good."

Except we're not downgrading the actual system. The 360 is running at full power, we're just using a SD screen.

I think (or hope based off these shots?) that on a SDTV the Revolution will look like low-end 360 games. If it can do that, I'll be happy. I realize that on an HDTV, the 360 will always look better; that's a given.

When I compare 360 and Revolution graphics, assume I mean on a SD (or 480p) screen, because OBVIOUSLY the 360 will always win on an HDTV.

I think the screenshots from a poorly-scanned magazine look okay, but I think its something of a leap to draw a comparision versus any system, let alone a 360 crippled in SD, until seen firsthand

Good point.

[Dagless]

Don M, there is all that yes. It is only SD. But still, regardless of anything else the Revolution screenshot's demonstrate;

-Projected soft shadows
-The only polygon I can see is the back of the gun
-Motion blur, Depth of Field
-Bloom
-Some form of HDR lighting (Aperture changing, contrast)
-People don't look shiny

I don't compare games on games. I just look at what the system can do. HDR and other camera effects. Brilliant. The PC and 360 does that and so will the PS3. Everything else aside, the Rev is showing DirectX 10 quality visuals. In 1x1 pixel screens, SD, EDTV, HDTV, Ultra HD. whatever. DirectX 10.