Who's gonna watch the World Cup Cricket?

[kiwi_the_iwik]

As a very staunch follower of the "Great Game", I want to know who of you are going to follow the matches...

...the first one is South Africa Vs. West Indies in 20 minutes (I predict South Africa to win the match - but I predict my home country of New Zealand to lift the crown. We've got a great team - and we've got a brilliant chance this time round...).

For the teams, stats and real-time commentary, go to:

www.cricinfo.org

HAPPY VIEWING!!!
(God, I'm excited...)

:D

[losfp]

C'arn the Aussies! :)

Though one-day cricket is a funny old game.. you lose a few quick wickets and suddenly anyone can win. My biased view says we will win, though not without a few scares. Other possibles are South Africa and, yes, New Zealand.

Bring it on.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Well - the way the West Indies are playing, they probably won't even make 3 figures...

...first run in the 4th over!


LOL! :D

[James.Paul]

At least they might turn up for all their matches!!!!!

[richie]

^^ haha!

Yeah, Australia should win it... though SA looks strong, and New Zealand are definitely up there. I just wish Channel 9 in Australia were showing the Australia v. Holland match, that'll be awesome :D

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Jeez - I'm sure England are getting all of those death threats in Zimbabwe not because of the political climate there, but because they're playing so badly!

If they played, they'd put the game into disrepute...


He! He! He!

:D


Update:

Lara got his century. Bloody brilliant!

198/3 from 43 Overs

Lara 109
Hooper 40

[Mr. Anderson]

The scariest thing is I have absolutely no idea what you all are going on about. Never played or watched Cricket - but there is a group who play regularly here in DC, on the fields just south of the Mall along the Potomac. Saw them setting up on my way to Ultimate, all in white outfits. :)

D

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Hey duke -


Mate, get into it. What a fantastic game...

If you want the rules, you're best to go to the cricinfo website - they're not that difficult to understand. I hear that the Americans have a team, too (but not in the World Cup - Canada's playing, though, but I don't fancy their chances!).

Basically, though, it's sort of like Baseball - except:

*There's no diamond, just a 22 yard runway called a "pitch" in the middle of the field - usually circular - with 3 "wickets", or "stumps"(like sticks in the ground), at each end of the pitch.

*The batsman's job is to prevent the ball from hitting the stumps and dislodging the 2 little sticks, or "bails" balanced on top of the stumps, or to be caught out in the process, whilst standing at his crease (like a batter's plate).

*The ball is delivered in an over-arm windmill fashion by the bowler (what you'd call pitcher), who runs up towards the stumps at the far end of the pitch, releasing the ball (NOT throwing, but bowling - usually with a bit of spin and a great deal of pace) towards the batsman facing him as he reaches the crease. His job is to get the ball past the batsman and hit his stumps.

*The ball is as hard as concrete and travels towards you at @ 100km/h (and would probably, in all likelihood, kill you if it hit at that speed!).

*There are 2 batsmen on the field at once. They stand at opposite ends of the pitch, behind their repective creases.

*To score a run, they both have to run down the pitch after the ball has been hit away - but only if they both judge that they can get a run from it, and not get out. Each batsman "crosses", or runs past each other, until they reach their opposing creases. That is called 1 run. If they turn and run back (they BOTH need to do that at the same time), that's called 2 runs - and so on. They can stop running at any time, as long as they end up behind a crease.

*The batsmen can make more runs by hitting the ball over the boundary rope - the area around the edge of the ground. If it bounces before it reaches the boundary, it's worth 4 runs. If it goes over on the full, it's worth 6 runs (they look spectacularly like home runs!). Scores of around 250 are not uncommon...

*Two batsmen cannot occupy the same crease - just like 2 batters can't occupy the same plate. (and they can stay there all day if they don't get out... without getting a toilet break, either!).

The One-Day matches are the best - a great atmosphere, and the players all wear their national uniforms in different colours. And, unlike the 5-day Tests, you get a result in a day (50 overs each side, 6 balls per over = 300 deliveries, without extras: i.e. wides and no-balls). Each side has a chance to make as many runs as possible in the alotted overs, but they only have 11 players to do it. When the batting team loses 10 wickets - when 10 players get out - (regardless of how many overs have been bowled), the other side has a go at beating the score in their 50 overs...

Damn - I'm going thru the rules without even planning to. I'll be here forever if I did that!

[Dont Hurt Me]

In reference to this post, I can Honestly say not ONE person i know will be watching!

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
Hey duke -

Mate, get into it. What a fantastic game...


As far as I'm concerned, the best team sport is Ultimate Frisbee. Best workout you can get, running continually, no standing around ;)

And it only costs you a few bucks for equipment, $7 for a good Disc Craft frisbee (Ultimate players only real choice, Whamo's are no good, don't fly as well) and maybe some cleats.

D

[3777]

Originally posted by dukestreet
The scariest thing is I have absolutely no idea what you all are going on about. Never played or watched Cricket - but there is a group who play regularly here in DC, on the fields just south of the Mall along the Potomac. Saw them setting up on my way to Ultimate, all in white outfits. :)

D


I myself am thankful I don't know what the hell they're talking about:o I'll be watching the Daytona 500 next weekend thank you very much:o ..................:cool:

[scem0]

same here, well, I don't know what they are talking about but I
am not gunna watch the daytona 500. I prefer more mainstream
sports, with an exception for diving. ;)

[MacFan25]

I don't know much about cricket either.

The Daytona 500 is next weekend?

[3777]

Originally posted by MacFan25
I don't know much about cricket either.

The Daytona 500 is next weekend?


Next weekend!!!:D

[MacFan25]

Originally posted by 3777
Next weekend!!!:D

Don't mean to be getting off subject, but I will probably watch part of it. I didn't realize that it was next weekend.

[Dont Hurt Me]

Originally posted by 3777



Next weekend!!!:D YOU BET!LOVE IT LOVE IT! Just another REDNECK I GUESS saying whats a cricket? Oh yea its like a grasshopper!

[MacFan25]

lol :D

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Well, guys - I'm deeply touched at your thought-provoking input to this thread.

You really don't know what you're missing.

The South Africa Vs. West Indies match was a real nail-biter and went down to the wire. And, the WINDIES WON! Well, my prediction was 100% wrong.

Let's hope I'm not wrong for tomorrow's match @ 8:00am GMT - Sri Lanka Vs. New Zealand.

We shall be victorious! :D

Go New Zealand!

[losfp]

yeah, the windies really came back - when I woke up there were 4 balls to go and I was amazed that RSA needed 8 off 4!

Oh, and I'll have to disagree with you on test vs one day cricket, iwik! Test cricket is the real thing, the pajama game caters to the masses with short attention spans. :) I still enjoy both, but ODIs are more a diversion that I keep an interest with, whereas I really CARE about the test results :D

Mind you, I will concede that cricket is a hard game to understand, especially test matches. There's just so much depth to the tactics and strategy that it's difficult to enjoy if you're not on top of it.

Funny thing is my mother is into it now. Very funny, watching a middle-aged Asian woman screaming at the TV when Steve Waugh is dismissed :D (Okay, slight exaggeration!)

[3777]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
Well, guys - I'm deeply touched at your thought-provoking input to this thread.

You really don't know what you're missing.

The South Africa Vs. West Indies match was a real nail-biter and went down to the wire. And, the WINDIES WON! Well, my prediction was 100% wrong.

Let's hope I'm not wrong for tomorrow's match @ 8:00am GMT - Sri Lanka Vs. New Zealand.

We shall be victorious! :D

Go New Zealand!


Excuse me sir, could you please stay on topic, this thread is about the Daytona 500:o

[3777]

Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
YOU BET!LOVE IT LOVE IT! Just another REDNECK I GUESS saying whats a cricket? Oh yea its like a grasshopper!

I'll pretend I didn't hear that sir:o

[Beej]

I saw the start of it before I went to bed, and the end of it when I got up. Great finish.

I'll be watching all the cricket I can. Mmm... six weeks of cricket... yummm...

I read a "ten reasons we love the cricket world cup" in the paper the other day. One of the reasons went something like "becuase we get to watch not-so-good teams try their hearts out, like Canada, Holland and England." :)

[kiwi_the_iwik]

England, yeah...

What the HELL are their selectors thinking? Their players all old and decrepid (take for instance Alec Stewart - you can't tell me there's not a younger wicketkeeper available in a country of 62 million)...

Never mind - NZ's bowling first against Sri Lanka. I've got the day off - I'm taking the little guy to nursery (he likes to see his little friends), and I'm parking myself in front of the tube for 8 hours...

...bliss.

At least for this World Cup, we've only a 2 hour time difference!

:D

[748s]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
England, yeah...

What the HELL are their selectors thinking? Their players all old and decrepid (take for instance Alec Stewart - you can't tell me there's not a younger wicketkeeper available in a country of 62 million)...

Never mind - NZ's bowling first against Sri Lanka. I've got the day off - I'm taking the little guy to nursery (he likes to see his little friends), and I'm parking myself in front of the tube for 8 hours...

...bliss.

At least for this World Cup, we've only a 2 hour time difference!

:D

probably younger keepers but alex is still playing well. sri lanka have a fit muri bowling.....look out. always enjoy to see the seth effricens get beat. i'll be keen to see shoab and akram bowling against australia. you can never tell how pakistan will play. the netherlands could cause an upset.....nz/west indies/pakistan/australia are my tips for the last 4. a nz Vs australia final would be great for underarm bowling and sheep jokes. kiwi you have posted in the past re your son playing for australia. can you get me a few tickets for the new years test at the SCG 2026?:D
australia vs iran....iran should have full test status by then......i think it's interesting that cricket is spreading through that part of the world.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Originally posted by 748s
kiwi you have posted in the past re your son playing for australia. can you get me a few tickets for the new years test at the SCG 2026?:D

australia vs iran....iran should have full test status by then......i think it's interesting that cricket is spreading through that part of the world.

Sure - I'll get you tickets. You'll have to sit in the Members Stand though (so you gotta wear a tie... :D). I still hope he plays for New Zealand...

All I can say is - the more countries, the merrier. How can we call it a World Cup when there's so few test nations out there? At least the Rugby World Cup has literally dozens of countries involved. It's just a matter of time...

Dare I say it - even the US has a team. If only they had more support at home, they'd be contenders (probably by 2026!).


Back to the current match -

It looks like NZ's got its work cut out for it - Sri Lanka are 213/4 in the 39th over - a couple more quick wickets might make the difference. Jayasuriya hit a fantastic century - a great captain's knock.

I reckon Daniel Vettori should've been included in the lineup - a great spin bowler. Didn't they even think that Sri Lanka were bound to include Murilitharan?

:mad:

[losfp]

If you can knock over Jayasuriya, the rest will crumble. The problem is getting him out, much like Lara!

I had the honour of seeing him at his slashing best at the SCG earlier this year.. the ONLY match Australia lost this summer and I had to be at it :mad: :D Here's a photo I took at that match.... ahhh.. pretty...

http://users.bigpond.net.au/des/photos/pano-scg-AusSL-Night-800.JPG

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Lovely photo - brings back happy memories...

Ahhh....

I watched EVERY 1-Day International @ Eden Park in Auckland from 1981 till 1991, and then every once-in-a-while in Sydney from 1992-1995...


New Zealand needs 273 to win from their 50 overs. Bloody great - it looked like it was going to be a REALLY big score at one stage...

Watch for Nathan Astle, Stephen Fleming, Lou Vincent and Chris Cairns to really hit out.

15 minutes to go...



Oh yes - I've just made 500 posts!!!!!!!

:D

[748s]

i'll lash out and buy a tie for the day! speaking of oldies still playing.......shouldn't chris harris be wearing a hat......not much hair left on top. vettori being left out is odd. the commentators suggested the pitch was similiar to a sri lankan pitch.....sri lanka have three spinners playing. (anyone care to explain the difference between a left arm orthodox finger spinner and a right arm wrist spinner's googly for those who don't know much about the great game? how about the LBW law... :D) sri lanka did look like getting 300+ at one stage. if they can handle muri 273 is gettable. hope McMillian takes to muri. like watching him when he's going for it.
whoooops.....just checked the telly. 3 for 31....what was astle thinking? might have to revise my final 4

[748s]

Originally posted by losfp
If you can knock over Jayasuriya, the rest will crumble. The problem is getting him out, much like Lara!

I had the honour of seeing him at his slashing best at the SCG earlier this year.. the ONLY match Australia lost this summer and I had to be at it :mad: :D Here's a photo I took at that match.... ahhh.. pretty...



great photo. i like the light in that period between daylight and the lights taking over.
lara looks like he is coming back into form after years of indifferent batting. after last nights effort i'm thinking he could pull the windies to the last 4.

[losfp]

Originally posted by 748s
how about the LBW law... :D

Some of the UMPIRES can't explain it, how do you think I'd go? ;)

Looks like the kiwis are copping a bit of stick right now... But if anyone can do it, Chris Cairns can do it.

[losfp]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
Lovely photo - brings back happy memories...


You should see the original image - 6000 x 1100! pasted together from 6 photos..

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Bugger - we lost...




POST-MATCH DISCUSSION:


*Scotty Styris' 141 was amazing.

*Nathan Astle's run out was a joke.

Craig McMillan is going thru too long a rough patch.

*Lou Vincent's 'keeping needs a lot of work (dropped 4 catches - including Jayasuriya early on). Replace him with a dedicated 'keeper, and not a part-timer.

*Daniel Vettori should've played.

*Chris Harris had better start shaving his head - that semi-scraggly-bald thing went out in the '70's...

*Sri Lanka's tail was crap - but their fielding isn't bad. Their spell in Australia did them a lot of good.

*New Zealand went in too cocky after their annhialation of India at home. Eat humble pie and get on with it.


:mad:

[3777]

:cool:

[kiwi_the_iwik]

:rolleyes:

[3777]

:o

[748s]

Originally posted by losfp


Some of the UMPIRES can't explain it, how do you think I'd go? ;)

Looks like the kiwis are copping a bit of stick right now... But if anyone can do it, Chris Cairns can do it.

it's quite simple.......about 1 page in the laws of cricket:D read an article in the SMH a few years back by an american woman. she thought cricket sucked. started watching it on telly.
got to like it. she never "got" LBW. after a few summers of watching, she saw a batsman get hit on the pads.....she said to herself "plumb".....the umpire then raised the finger. you have to watch it to get LBW:D

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Don't worry 3777 - I can do this all day...



NZ's captain, Stephen Fleming, Vs. Australia...




What's going on?!?

I turn my back for 5 minutes, and suddenly Shane Warne's been sent home for failing a drugs test...

The Australian public must be beside themselves. Ritchie Benaud didn't sound too impressed whilst doing the commentary, either. He's like the archetypical headmaster - you don't want to disappoint him...

I think maybe he was given the wrong type of painkillers for his shoulder injury - that must be it. Although, it was a Class-A drug...

Australia initially were being caned by the Pakistanis - thank god for Symonds.

Wow - now they're 260/6 off 45 overs. They could make 300!

:D

[748s]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
Bugger - we lost...




POST-MATCH DISCUSSION:


*Scotty Styris' 141 was amazing.

*Nathan Astle's run out was a joke.

Craig McMillan is going thru too long a rough patch.

*Lou Vincent's 'keeping needs a lot of work (dropped 4 catches - including Jayasuriya early on). Replace him with a dedicated 'keeper, and not a part-timer.

*Daniel Vettori should've played.

*Chris Harris had better start shaving his head - that semi-scraggly-bald thing went out in the '70's...

*Sri Lanka's tail was crap - but their fielding isn't bad. Their spell in Australia did them a lot of good.

*New Zealand went in too cocky after their annhialation of India at home. Eat humble pie and get on with it.


:mad:

good knock by styris. has anyone said why vettori didn't play. the harris haircut is something to behold......where's the clippers!
nz will have to beat SA and the Windies to move to the super 6.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Fleming ruled Vettori out - no one really knows why...

NZ may have to bite the bullet and play in Kenya now. There's no reason why they would think it was dangerous...

[748s]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
Don't worry 3777 - I can do this all day...



NZ's captain, Stephen Fleming, Vs. Australia...




What's going on?!?

I turn my back for 5 minutes, and suddenly Shane Warne's been sent home for failing a drugs test...

The Australian public must be beside themselves. Ritchie Benaud didn't sound too impressed whilst doing the commentary, either. He's like the archetypical headmaster - you don't want to disappoint him...

I think maybe he was given the wrong type of painkillers for his shoulder injury - that must be it. Although, it was a Class-A drug...

Australia initially were being caned by the Pakistanis - thank god for Symonds.

Wow - now they're 260/6 off 45 overs. They could make 300!

:D

warnie got done for a diruetic. he said he was trying to look thin:confused: he said his mother gave it to him:confused: :confused:
must of got sick of the pommies chanting.."who's a fat bustard":D
well i'm not beside myself....i enjoy it when warnie stuff's up. loved the phone incident. symonds was a surprise selection. he has had a rough patch......for a few years! i'm hoping craig mcmillian can get it together like symonds just has.......symonds 126no.
i saw ritchie in the street one day........transendental man! it was odd, like a visitation from a deity....he doesn't look real.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Did you check out Waqar Younis' Beamer? Symonds was livid...


LAST OVER - SYMONDS SIX!!!! WOOO-HOOO!

300 is up... outstanding stuff - what a comeback. Little wonder they're classed as the best in the world.

Waqar coming right at 'ya at 150km/h - scary stuff...

[748s]

amazing comeback. waqar was getting annoyed.
the stump mikes should be on for the conversations.....symonds/waqar then umpire shepperd/waqar. shepperd looked annoyed, his face went redder than normal. symonds top score was 70. hope mcmillian and cairns go off against south africa. nz were here last year, cairns went off a few times. beautiful to watch.

[losfp]

What a knock by Symonds!! I didn't rate him at all going into the World Cup - he had a real dirty summer here in Australia. Ponting must have seen something the rest of us didn't, and I'm happy to be proven wrong!!! :D :D

Not a bad bit of drama in the last overs too, with the beamers from Waqar!

[748s]

Originally posted by losfp
What a knock by Symonds!! I didn't rate him at all going into the World Cup - he had a real dirty summer here in Australia.


i didn't think he should be in the team. he has been out of form for a couple of seasons. well i'm wrong again:p 4 for not many.....who do you want coming in? steve waugh. symonds has just finished off that idea. symonds has just put an end to any notion of steve coming back. it's one of those innings that will stick in the memory for a long time.

[748s]

Originally posted by 3777
:cool:

anyone can sit in a soft seat and pull a steering wheel one way all day.

a cricket player on his day off

[3777]

:mad:

[3777]

Originally posted by 748s


a cricket player on his day off

:o

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Nice picture of your dad. :)

...Looks like someone who sits on his behind all day driving around in circles.


What a match - great catching, big hitting, and Pakistan lost. What more could you want?!?


By the way, 3777 - These are REAL blokes...

[kettle]

Originally posted by 3777


:o

Shane Warne with too much time on his hands.
I can see an argument for fluid reduction medication.

http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=248149

[748s]

who's minding the trailer?
is that a 73 comaro?
and that moustache......merv "the swerve" hughes (over 200 test wickets) has a real moustache!

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Ahh - there's nothing quite like "westie" revv-heads with mullets.

Poor White Trailer-trash.


India's gonna get a hiding from - wait for it -

Holland!


Holland 27/1 off 7 overs, in reply to India's 204 all out...

:eek:

[748s]

crikey. i thought holland/netherlands would get an upset win (like knocking over england some years back....80's?....non world cup match). india struggle away from home. really struggle! telly here showed the saffies Vs kenya. the holland Vs india is just about to start. would have preffered the saffie game delayed and watched the dutch rip india apart
:D would like to watch it but have a job starting in 7.5hours. i'll read about it in the paper......on the train
:(

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Nah - Holland fell away. They've got potential, but nowhere near the experience of the Indian team (even though their batsmen let them down).

New Zealand Vs. West Indies tomorrow - 9 hours time - and I'm off to playgroup with my little boy... (damn!)

Maybe if I predict the West Indies to win, then maybe New Zealand will instead?!? Considering all of my predictions to date have been absolute bollix (apart from the obvious ones, like SAF vs. Kenya, & Holland vs. India...), it's worth a try...


Anyway - I'll miss the "biggie" on Sunday:

New Zealand vs. South Africa... BIG grudge match.

(I've got to go to Belgium for 4 days for work. Eeeech... At least I'll get the cricket scores texted to my mobile phone).

:rolleyes:

[748s]

cricket is played in belgium. maybe a pub will be showing the game. one of the links may lead somewhere........
a link to belgium cricket
http://www.cricket.org/link_to_database/NATIONAL/ICC_MEMBERS/BELGIUM/
the Antwerp 12 stars
http://www.cricket.org/link_to_database/NATIONAL/ICC_MEMBERS/BELGIUM/12STARS/
or
12stars@cricinfo.com

[748s]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik

All I can say is - the more countries, the merrier. How can we call it a World Cup when there's so few test nations out there? At least the Rugby World Cup has literally dozens of countries involved. It's just a matter of time...

Dare I say it - even the US has a team. If only they had more support at home, they'd be contenders (probably by 2026!).


how long would a world cup of cricket be if more teams played!!!!!! a seeded comp like tennis?
make it a knockout comp from the start.
i'm surprised that iran is not an affilate member yet. Afghanistan is. an interesting fact, when afghanistan was being bombed, the afghani team got a couple of utes and drove the backroads over the mountains to play in a competition in pakistan. says a lot about cricket!

full members of the I.C.C.......

AUSTRALIA
BANGLADESH
ENGLAND
INDIA
NEW ZEALAND
PAKISTAN
SOUTH AFRICA
SRI LANKA
WEST INDIES
ZIMBABWE

associate members of the I.C.C........

ARGENTINA
BERMUDA
CANADA
CAYMAN ISLANDS
DENMARK
EAST AND CENTRAL AFRICA
FIJI
FRANCE
GERMANY
GIBRALTAR
HONG KONG
IRELAND
ISRAEL
ITALY
KENYA
MALAYSIA
NAMIBIA
NIGERIA
THE NETHERLANDS
NEPAL
PAPUA NEW GUINEA
SCOTLAND
SINGAPORE
TANZANIA
UGANDA
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
U.S.A.

affilate members of I.C.C.........

AFGHANISTAN
AUSTRIA
BAHAMAS
BAHRAIN
BELGIUM
BELIZE
BHUTAN
BOTSWANA
BRAZIL
BRUNEI
CHILE
COOK ISLANDS
COSTA RICA
CROATIA
CUBA
CYPRUS
CZECH REPUBLIC
FINLAND
GAMBIA
GHANA
GREECE
INDONESIA
JAPAN
SOUTH KOREA
KUWAIT
LESOTHO
LUXEMBOURG
MALDIVES
MALTA
MOROCCO
NORWAY
OMAN
PANAMA
PHILIPPINES
PORTUGAL
QATAR
SAMOA
SIERRA LEONE
SPAIN
ST HELENA
SURINAME
SWEDEN
SWITZERLAND
THAILAND
TONGA
TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS
VANUATU
maybe just have the knockout with full and associate members. it will give a boost to the game in associate member countries and give affiliates something to strive for.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

WHY?!?!? aren't NZ still going to Kenya? The points are there for the taking - it's making the World Cup look farsical. First, England, now us...

Here's hoping Cairns has a bowl, and Vettori's in the team. Then we'll definitely have a chance - if we win the toss...

;)

[748s]

local newspaper was saying NZ is now trying to go to kenya, but can't because they have already forfeited . i'm not sure what the situation is. been smirking over englands thrashing by australia in the soccer. jeez.....nothing left to thrash them in.....plus they beat two teams england A and england B.

hmmmmm 241 off 50. thought they needed 280 to keep safe. has vettori always opened? or is it just something to confuse? is flemming feeling well? they might need to get to kenya..... 4 valuable points just sitting there, but they were too close to that bomb in pakistan, can understand the nerves.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

WE WON!!!!

Great game - beat the Windies...

I've hardly got any fingernails left, now...

I'll have to use my toenails for the match on Sunday against South Africa... (ewwww!)

Yeah - Vettori did make a big difference. He doesn't open at all - it was just an experiment. But New Zealand has always been known for it's unorthodox approach to One-Dayers - remember in the late 80's-early 90's when Dipak Patel (a spinner) opened the bowling with Danny Morrison (a fast bowler)? The opposing team's batsmen didn't know how to perform in the first 15 overs - they daren't go over the top of the inner circle when facing a spin bowler, as they'd be more likely to sky it...

New Zealand's fielding was superb (Oram's catch in the outfield was brilliant...).

It was a shame about Chris Cairns' bowling effort - 21 runs off 1 over! Yikes! Still - he hadn't bowled in over a year. He's allowed to make one mistake, I suppose...

Now, New Zealand MUST play in Kenya if they are to make it into the Super Six. They're pretty much assured of a place if they do. They can beat Canada, Bangladesh and Kenya easily - South Africa's the big worry. But because the Windies beat them the other day, and we beat the Windies, maybe that will play a psychological part in South Africa's performance on Sunday. AND - Jonty Rhodes is out of the World Cup after breaking his hand - yet another blow for the home team...

Go the Black Caps!

:D

[748s]

good to see them get up. they have to beat the saffies to be certain of the super 6. could be congested at the top of the table in pool b.
3 or 4 teams on equal points. i think NZ also introduced the concept of a pinch hitter. patel opened in the 92 world cup in australia. caused some confusion. took the channel 9 commentary team a few months to get over it.
dont forget the tricky points system. top 3 of each pool go through. if you beat a team in the top 3 in your pool matches you keep 4 points per win. the points gained from wins against teams knocked out are halved.....2 points per win. the super 6 top 4 is based on points, so it would be better to go to the 6 with wins against the other qualifiers from your group. means you can afford to drop a game in the super 6 rounds and still make the semis.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Still looks like the Aussies are a sure-fire thing.

I'm not going to Belgium now - but I AM working tomorrow @6am (GMT) on a 12-hour shift. Damn...

Maybe I'll get a chance to watch the big match - NZ vs. SAF - at work (after all, I work for the TV network that has the rights to show the Cricket over here!).

Kenya vs. Canada was interesting - Kenya just won it, with 9 balls to spare. I think NZ were foolish not to play Kenya in the end - that's 2 points that could make the difference between the Super 6 and a flight home...

:rolleyes:

[ibjoshua]

ooooh ooh.

NZ will win if the rain in jo'burg doesn't let up. And SA started off so well too!

For anyone unable tp get to a tv try here (http://www-aus.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/WORLD_CUPS/WC2003/SCORECARDS/POOL-B/NZ_RSA_WC2003_ODI15_16FEB2003.main.html) (basic registration required)

i_b_joshua

[ibjoshua]

"New Zealand will have a revised target based on a 39-over chase, and unofficial calculations make that target out to be 226 (that's 44 off the remaning 8.3 overs to win)"

fingers and toes crossed. not going to bed until this one is over. gonna be tired at work but who cares.

i_b_joshua

[kiwi_the_iwik]

This is great -

It's so nice to wipe those smug grins off the South African supporters' faces...

They have been very unsportsmanlike throughout the match - an example was how they threw a pair of sunglasses at Craig McMillan in the outfield as he was catching a ball. Still - he made the catch...

Anyway - Stephen Fleming's century was an inspirational captain's knock - with a great strike rate to boot. The South Africans were really taking us apart during their innings; and now, it's retribution...

:D

[ibjoshua]

i can sleep easy now. NZ won!
boooyakasha!

i_b_joshua

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Well - it looks like the home nation of South Africa may be out of the World Cup...



...ahhh, diddums.




New Zealand now doesn't even have to play Kenya to gain a place in the Super 6.

I am a happy Kiwi.


:)

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great bowling by vettori/styris. they slowed the saffies down. the way they were going 350/360 was possible. rain or no rain NZ would have won. flemming was going to win no matter what. great innings. enjoyed shots of the crowd during the last overs, they didn't look happy to be watching a great game. looking like pool b would be the best to qualify from. hardest matches. pool a........doubts about india and pakistan being up to it now. NZ, AU and SRI Lanka look like the only teams with a bit of mongrel in them. india/pakistan/SA/windies crumble under any pressure. (haven't seen england play yet.) pollock let the game get away after the restart. he didn't know what to do. too much pressure for him.

[losfp]

Best in the world, eh Shaun? :D :D

They just got all cocky after moving into the lead in the test championships (which they only got because they've beaten Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, who we haven't even played yet!)

[3777]

........:o

[3777]

Or this:o

[losfp]

Errr. that's a magnificent piece of fractured logic there, 3777.

"Motor racing is better than cricket because the car crashes are better in motor racing than in cricket".

[748s]

Originally posted by 3777
........:o

oh boy! this says more about your "culture" than you'll ever understand. is that a 68 trans camaro? how come they have wheels? shouldn't they be up on blocks.

move along 3777, nothing to see here.

[748s]

Originally posted by losfp
Best in the world, eh Shaun? :D :D

They just got all cocky after moving into the lead in the test championships (which they only got because they've beaten Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, who we haven't even played yet!)

didn't the SA spectators look pleased after watching a great game of cricket.
they all looked like they were made to suck a lemon. go you good things!

[mj_1903]

A bit of aussie blood needs to come into this thread. :-)

Well, I must say, New Zealand beating South Africa was fantastic. Then again, Australia annihilation of India was pretty good too.

Shall we start making some bets for the Super Six?

Here are mine:
- Australia
- New Zealand
- South Africa
- India
- Pakistan
- Sri Lanka

I doubt South Africa will get knocked out of the comp...there are too many cheap teams around to easily do that.

[DannyZR2]

i never was much into soccer..

[kiwi_the_iwik]

My selection for the Super 6:

Pool A:

Australia
Zimbabwe
Pakistan


Pool B:

Sri Lanka
New Zealand
West Indies




Notice NO England, and NO South Africa?!? (He! He! He! :D )

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i did tip.... nz/west indies/pakistan/australia for the final 4.

pool a...au/zim/pak
pool b...nz/sri/sa

sa will not have enough points at the start of the super 6, one loss in 5 games will be enough to stop them. i can't see them winning 5 in a row.
revised final 4.....au/nz/sri/pak
play off for 3rd spot......sri Vs Pak
final au Vs nz.

sorry kiwi, you'll get 2nd place this time.:D

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Ooooh - that may be tall ask for your boys...

However, I'm surprised that the New Zealanders don't play in the World Series Cricket that often (I think the last time was in the '97-'98 season).

Maybe they'll play over there in the future, considering they've always been considered "Dark Horses"...

;)

[mj_1903]

Well much. We shall see after their next match whether they have the ability to get to the finals. They are definetely the dark horses.

Australia...well what can we say? They may rest gillespie and lee and gilchrist from the next match and yet they are still meant to win. I guess they don't have warne either. Such a strong team....way too powerful for everyone else.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

The Australians are undoubtedly the most successful, talented and powerful team in the world today. It would be a coup for the victorious side if they didn't win the competition. But Cricket's a funny old game - teams all "peak" at different times, batsmen and bowlers go thru "lulls", and some teams just fire at the right time.

Australia is so successful because their country admires and nurtures its athletes - their media doesn't pull them apart at the first sign of wavering. They have National Institutes of Sport to encourage and train them, and have money allocated to them from lotteries and government funding. What a brilliant place...

Then, on the other side of the coin sits England - butchered by the press, ignored by funding. No wonder they're so crap.

:rolleyes:

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nz were over here with the saffies in 2001 one day series. flemming is probably responsible for ending steve waughs one day career. nz has been the only side to be dominant over australia recently. most captains have a fear and wont take it to the australians. they sit back and hope something happens. flemming gets in their face and takes it right up to them. he is a good captain (99% of the time, some odd choices in the sri lanka match). just watched the windies struggle to 9/244 aginst bangladesh. not good enough. only 3 teams are showing they have some mongrel in them, nz, sri lanka and australia. nz lift 100% against austrailia. so do sri lanka. hopefully we play the 4th team in the semis, and nz and sri lanka play the other semi.
australia could easily go out in a semi against nz or sri lanka. sri lanka Vs aust could be interesting. it's certain several players will end up standing toe to toe trading pleasantries.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

The Sri Lankans didn't really fire against the Aussies in their One-Day series there recently...

Maybe they're hitting the straps now.

Stephen Fleming's a bloody good captain all right - and he's still got a good 6 or 7 years left in him. I like how the NZ team is quite young - for a while they were just like young whipping boys, as they were so young and inexperienced. I guess that all paid off in the long run - with an average age of around 26 (with Chris Harris and Chris Cairns the oldies in the team, and screwing up the average!), they're already veterans and world-beaters.

:)

[748s]

towards the end of the series sri lanka fired up. as usual they had some of murdochs tabloid papers after them. rattled them. they calmed down and started the build up for the world cup.
nz down 3-0 in the americas cup. this can only mean the cricket team will do something to replace a lost trophy. nooooooooooooooooooo

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Soooo -

I finally worked out how to activate my ADSL modem - now it's fast internet time... ...yippee!!!

And to give the new system a work-over, just for old time's sakes I was listening to Triple JJJ. Gadd - are they taking the piste out of Shane Warne? Hillarious. It's apparently his hearing today.

They'll just tell him he should have gone to Weight Watchers, like normal people do.


Australia didn't have too many probs with Holland - England, on the other hand, had it tough against Namibia for a time (it ended up being a bit of a hollow victory). They should keep their heads down...

;)

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warnie.....his hearing started over an hour ago (10am au time) could go all day. he hired a pr co. to put the spin on. newspaper pictures of warnie with his kiddies.....inpark, pushing swing, taking kiddies to school...etc. has the top melboune qc arguing for him. opinion on what should happen divided (round here you either love him or hate him)......nothing, the poor bloke made a dreadful mistake listening to his silly old mum. or, he took a masking agent, he admitted it, the rule says 2 year ban. the pr work has been done, whatever happens he will always be seen as being "hard done by". i think he recovered to quickly from a serious shoulder injury. original projections suggested he wouldn't start bowling again before mid march.
my only worry is the ACB will cave in, put pressure on the 3 people hearing the case, he'll walk away with "gee it was accidental, here is your ticket back to SA", or change the charge to the lesser one with a 3 month maximum ban.
i just hope he doesn't play in the world cup.
it would take the shine off beating the kiwi's in the final!

at
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/music/soundqlt/
is a music program that is on another abc station. the last 4 programs are streamed. it is hosted by an ex jjj dj. haven't listened to jjj for a few years now, it is just gettihg a bit to standard mainstream playlist for my liking.

[748s]

http://abc.net.au/news/sport/cricket/2003/02/item20030221172110_1.htm

both sides in warnie case have summed up and the tribunal are considering their verdict.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Didn't I tell you the South Africans were a nasty cheating bunch of bad losers?

"...if we can't win, we'll make damned sure you don't..."

It reminds me when the Rugby World Cup final was being played in Johannesburg - NZ vs. SA. The NZ team all had food poisoning, except for the Physio and 2 other players that didn't go to the banquet the night before - 4 international rugby journalists (NOT from New Zealand) were sitting at a table near the kitchen doors, and overheard 3 cooks talking about what nasties they put in the food. Sure enough, the next day the team were in vomiting fits. It's not often you get to see Jonah Lomu puking on the sideline, whilst in the game of his life.

We still only lost by the narrowest of margins...

Like I said before - retribution...

:mad:

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well you're not telling me anything i didn't know. everyone here was sure the kiwis were nobbled. has any sporting team been to sa since and not taken their own cooks? speaking of cheats.......the verdict in warnies case will be announced at 11am tomorrow (saturday, aest).
it's looking like nz's place in the super 6 will depend on sri lanka beating the saffies on march 3rd. those 4 points lost to kenya would have made sure of a super 6 spot. australia just need to beat zimbabwe next monday for a certain place.

[StuPid QPid]

Just thought I'd bring an English perspective to this thread ;)
Here are the definitive rules of the game for the uninitiated.

CRICKET: The Rules.
You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man
that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes
in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all
out, the side that's out comes in and the side thats been in goes
out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men
still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him
out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out
and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay out
all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out.
When both sides have been in and all the men are out, and both
sides have been out twice after all the men have been in,
including those who are not out, that is the end of the game!

I hope that has made everything clearer...it's simple really...
Unfortunately, I'm living in Germany at the moment, so have to follow the World Cup via the 'net, or on BBC Radio 4 when I can get a good reception...

[748s]

Originally posted by StuPid QPid
Just thought I'd bring an English perspective to this thread ;)
Here are the definitive rules of the game for the uninitiated.


an oldie but a goodie! that's a good one to pull out for anyone who doesn't know anything about cricket:D funny thing is if you know cricket those rules make perfect sense, infuriating those who don't:p
talk about creating confusion:D

the english teams world cup either starts or ends tomorrow. england Vs pakistan. a must win for both teams. england have made beating netherlands and namibia hard work. pakistan are unpredictable. good luck with the reception.

[mj_1903]

Our reverend always used to read it to us at school in assembly. Very ammusing those days.

Warnie, what can we say....suspended for a year. Do you think he will ever play crikcet again or will the world's greatest spin bowler finally throw in the towel?

Australia did have fun against Holland though...they had it tough in the batting department and good on Holland for restricting Australia to under 5 runs an over (that must be a record or something). Talking about records, if Australia win this next match, they hold a world record 11 consecutive wins. Amazing.

[748s]

warnie will play again. he needs the money.
he'll have to stay slim though:D
his whinging about being picked on is hard to take. he always blamed someone else for the trouble he has got himself into. he is lucky to only get 1year. it would be hilarious if he appeals and it's decided he got off lightly and they change the suspension to 2 years.
the dutch captain bowled well. the next game may not happen. reports say the rains have come to bulawayo and the ground is under water:eek: 11 in a row may be slipping away.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Warnie needs to play to pay for the diuretics...


Whoa - England demolished Pakistan in easy fashion...

...as did South Africa vs. Bangladesh - SA didn't even work up a sweat!

That new brit boy - Anderson - is some find. Maybe that might get them out of the doldrums.

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anderson.......my memory is hazy.....think he played in a test in the recent ashes series. bowled well. when he was fielding, damaged a knee. had to be carried off. the medical report said 6 months for recovery. he was a lot better than the usual bunch of pie throwers england call bowlers (wingnut etc.). if it wasn't anderson i'm thinking of, england have 2 good bowlers coming through. could england get to the super 6? india and pakistan aren't firing. (all the indians houses will be burnt down by now).
at this stage it looks like australia and sri lanka are in the super 6. who the other 4 are........?
the weather looks like it could play a big part. if aus Vs zim is rained out the 2 points zim get could get them through. those 4 points nz gave to kenya could be costly. the bloody saffies have moved into second spot in pool b.

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checked the stats......the bowler i'm thinking of is simon jones. bowled 7 overs in the first test at brisbane. got langer caught behind for 32. he looked like a test bowler. done the knee and it was all over for him. brisbane was his second test. has taken 5 test wickets

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Yes, South Africa is 2nd in Pool B - just in front of Kenya. In other words, it means nothing...

Still - we've only got easy matches to go - Bangladesh and Canada...

If Kenya don't make it thru (? yeah - as IF they'd get through anyway! ;) ) those points we would've got from the match only would've been worth 2 points in the end. So no big loss...

England still have to beat India and Australia. India are picking up their game, after hearing of the troubles back home (i.e. threats against team members, etc...), and as far as I can see, Australia are fairly unstoppable.

The West Indies' draw due to rain was a lifeline to the South Africans. Because of their total annhialation of the Bangladesh team, the SA's run-rate is phenomenal. It would be a tragedy if it prevented NZ from reaching the Super 6 - although SA still have to play Sri Lanka (and Jayasuriya and Vaas are on FIRE...).

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it is getting congested at the top of pool b. a rained out match for any of the top 4 would be costly. the points only half after progressing to the super 6. nz will have to win the toss against bangaladesh and canda put them in and roll them cheaply. that way they could build a big run rate. ideally the sa Vs sri match is the one that gets rained out. i'm starting to get "the bad vibes"......a Sri Vs SA final. nooooooo!:mad:
i'm glad i'm not a gambler. my tips would never win me any $$$$$$$$$.

[mj_1903]

SA vs. SL final? Are you kidding?

England I doubt can bounce back from their poor start. Even though Anderson is a find, he is more likely to affect the next world cup.

Anyways, I am all prepared to watch Aus vs. Zim tonight. I have done my correct prepartion of not sleeping the night before, working that day and then obviously not sleeping while watching the cricket. I wonder which ball I will see? The first or the last one? Lol.

[748s]

Originally posted by mj_1903
SA vs. SL final? Are you kidding?


as you know cricket is a "funny game" (quote.... r benaud....every 10 minutes). got bored with the methodical aussie demolition of zim....(it's still going aus haven't won yet)....changed channels to foxtel for the kenya Vs sri match to see what the teams in pool b were up to. sri looked in trouble 6/117.....well at least they have the runs on the board......kenya have to get them. THEN i realised kenya had already batted......9/210.
well kenya have just done sri lanka. if you'll excuse me i have to go and give kiwi a windup.

[748s]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
Yes, South Africa is 2nd in Pool B - just in front of Kenya. In other words, it means nothing...

If Kenya don't make it thru (? yeah - as IF they'd get through anyway! ;) )

:D:D
kenya just knocked over sri lanka
:p :p
kenya have one game left Vs bangaladesh.
if it rains they will finish on 14 points..... maybe enough to go through to round 2. if they beat bangaladesh they will finish on 16 points. 16 points could get them the top spot in pool b, with nz/windies/sri/sa fighting over the last 2 spots. i might have tipped 1 out of the 6, with luck i'll tip 2 out of the super 6.
FUNNY GAME, cricket
:D :cool:

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Well, bless your heart!


Unbelievable - KENYA beating Sri Lanka. I'm sure heads will roll over this one...

Get this - I just worked out the prospective results for the up-and-coming Pool B games.

Currently, the table sits like this:

Kenya = 12pts
Sri Lanka = 12pts
West Indies = 10pts
New Zealand = 8pts
South Africa = 8pts
Canada = 4pts
Bangladesh = 2pts

So if:
New Zealand beat Bangladesh
South Africa beat Canada
Sri Lanka beat West Indies
Kenya beat Bangladesh
New Zealand beat Canada
South Africa beat Sri Lanka
West Indies beat Kenya

...then the table will look like this:

Kenya = 16pts
Sri Lanka = 16pts
New Zealand = 16pts
South Africa = 16pts
West Indies = 14pts
Canada = 4pts
Bangladesh = 2pts

Whoa! Kenya probably through - although it all comes down to the South Africa vs. Sri Lanka match (unless, of course, the games are rained out!!!!).

If Sri Lanka win that encounter, then the top 3 teams will be:

Sri Lanka
New Zealand
Kenya

Sonofabeech!!!!!

You've gotta love this game... :D

[748s]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
You've gotta love this game... :D

sure do:D
it's good too that no one seems to know the rules of how the order is determined if teams finish on the same points. some tv commentators claiming if two teams finish equal the winner of their match in the prelim rounds decides who goes on. how do they work out who's who when 4 teams finish on equal points. run rate then who beat who? don't ask me i don't know!
just watching the netherlands putting pressure on pakistan. shame netherlands can't bat. chasing 2 hundred and something. they might get lucky. too bad there is usually only one surprise result in the world cup. you never know.

[748s]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
Currently, the table sits like this:

Kenya = 12pts
Sri Lanka = 12pts
West Indies = 10pts
New Zealand = 8pts
South Africa = 8pts
Canada = 4pts
Bangladesh = 2pts



nz would have to be in the box seat (weather permitting). games against bangladesh and canda will improve the run rate, but if it is based on who beat who, they have beat the saffies and west indies but lost to sri and errrr..kenya. monday 3rd march saffies Vs sri lanka.....some cranky blokes running around in that game. starts here at 11:30pm :rolleyes: will bangladesh pull out a big one and beat kenya:confused:

[mac15]

Comon aussie comon, we have this cup wrapped up people :)

Engrave it now :D

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Bad news for NZ - it looks like rain in Kimberley tomorrow...

...Crap.

:mad:


We just have to bowl 'em out in 5 overs - that's all.

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Originally posted by mac15
Comon aussie comon, we have this cup wrapped up people :)

Engrave it now :D

not so fast bubba. the saffies thought they had the last cup wrapped up. one dropped catched, then a stoooopid runout when they were batting cost them a place in the final. as steve waugh said to the saffie that dropped him....."you just dropped the world cup".....
we can feel confident when australia reach the final, then win it.
as they say......funny game, cricket. ;)

[748s]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
Bad news for NZ - it looks like rain in Kimberley tomorrow...

...Crap.

:mad:


We just have to bowl 'em out in 5 overs - that's all.
it's fine. the match is underway. bangladesh, who have been getting flogged by everyone, manage 198/7 off 50.:confused: the kiwis will have to get a move on to up their run rate.....10 an over off 20? 20 an over off 10?

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Fleming's just gone from a catch OFF THE PAD!!!

Talk about blatant. :mad:

God, Daryl Hair's such a CRAP umpire...

Lucky he hasn't adjudicated any Sri Lankan matches - he doesn't get on with Murilitharan at all (remember all those "no-balls" he called a while back, because he thought Murili's action was a chuck? What a cretin...).


:rolleyes:


At least we'll still win the game.

We need those 4 points badly if we're going to make it through to the Super 6.

I've revamped my selection for the Super 6 as well:

Pool A:
Australia
India
England

Pool B:
Sri Lanka
New Zealand
Kenya

Super 6 playoffs:
Australia beat Sri Lanka
New Zealand beat India
England beat Kenya
Australia beat New Zealand
India beat Kenya
England beat Sri Lanka
Australia beat Kenya
India beat Sri Lanka
New Zealand beat England

Semi Finals:
Australia beat India
New Zealand beat England

Finals:
Australia play New Zealand


...I'm not predicting anymore. ;)

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Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik


...I'm not predicting anymore. ;)
why?
i enjoy making a fool of myself in public so......
pool A
aus....24
india...16
pak.....16

pool B
windies....18
nz............16
saffies.......16

points after adjustment for super 6
aus.........16
nz...........12
windies....9
india........8
pak..........8
saffies......8

au and nz could afford to lose a game and still make it to the semis. the ideal positions to finish in would be 1 or 4. 1 Vs 4 is a day game. the ball has been swinging at night. england got done by a ball that was swinging unusally last night. 2 Vs 3 is a day nighter. whoever bats second in that game will lose. both 1 and 4 will have a chance of winning. just hope aus and nz don't finish 1 and 4.

after super 6
aus..........20
nz............18
windies.....13
pak...........10
__________
saffies.......10
india..........8

aus Vs pak
nz Vs windies

final
aus Vs nz
and i can't pick that one. there's not a struck match between them.
these tips will be revised again tomorrow when canda upset the saffiies:D
good to see mcmillan getting some runs yesterday.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Well - looks like Australia might just scrape through to the Super Sixes...

;)

Nice bowling effort by McGrath - not a great struggle though.

I'm still sticking to my original predictions - might go down to the local betting shop and throw £10 on the NZ'ers to win - and £10 on my predictions for the run-up...

Who knows? It might win me enough money to go to the movies

- by myself...

(Yes - the odds are THAT bad...)

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Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
(Yes - the odds are THAT bad...)

i'd imagine aus is unbackable. same as nz. to win any money you'd have to go for a rank outsider like the saffies or pakistan. but they aren't gonna win. by me saying they aren't going to win will probably mean a sa Vs pak final:confused: that's how good my tipping is.
still wanting to see a nz Vs aus final. the only two teams with any mongrel in 'em. something worth staying up all night......it's not a day/nighter so it will be an early start aest...7pm to 3am.....hope i'm not working monday 24th.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Just finished watching Sri Lanka vs. West Indies....



UNBELIEVABLE!!!!



It's so nice to see a tight battle like that. Sarwan is an absolute legend - hit in the head, knocked unconcious, carried off on a stretcher, taken to hospital, stitched up, then came back to smash the ball 4 shades of blue.

That's the mark of a true cricketer.

Still - my reputation remains untarnished as the Nostradamus of the Cricket World Cup - Sri Lanka will make the Super Sixes....


:D

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Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
Just finished watching Sri Lanka vs. West Indies....
UNBELIEVABLE!!!

ok nostradamus. i'm due for a new, wild stab at who might be in the super 6. maybe i should just move on to trying to guess who will make the final 4 (after i know who the final 6 are).

unbelievable.....watched a replay of sri Vs windies. sarwan!!!!!!
just watching tendulkar destroying the pakistan bowlers. unbelievable also. he is currently 93 off 67 balls. should india and pakistan be playing against each other.
both countries have nukes. a couple of bad descions by darrel hair ( if he ever umpires them) could mean the end of the world.:D

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Now that Kenya defeated Bangladesh, they're DEFINITELY in the Super Sixes. That means New Zealand are a sure-fire bet to join Sri Lanka and Kenya after they defeat Canada, and get a better run-rate than South Africa can EVER attain with their forthcoming match against Sri Lanka (even if they win...)

So - I'm sticking to my guns and keeping with my selection - especially after watching that batting performance by India Vs. Pakistan...

...They're on fire!

:D

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Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
Now that Kenya defeated Bangladesh, they're DEFINITELY in the Super Sixes. That means New Zealand are a sure-fire bet to join Sri Lanka and Kenya after they defeat Canada, and get a better run-rate than South Africa can EVER attain with their forthcoming match against Sri Lanka (even if they win...)

So - I'm sticking to my guns and keeping with my selection - especially after watching that batting performance by India Vs. Pakistan...

...They're on fire!

:D

do you know how the teams are rated if equal on points? run rate? or who beat who in their match? nz beat the saffies so it looks like they have all angles covered. just watching the poms struggling. 6/177 off 42. it will give the young fella anderson something to bowl at. his 10 overs could be a real test for him. or he could be a hero.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Well, it just goes to show there's some things in life that are absolute:

The sky is blue;
Water is wet;
And England inevitably blow it...

:p :D


Once more, Bevan came to the rescue - along with a brilliant effort from Bichel (that should cement his place in the team now...).

I'm not a betting man, but I'd put money on my choices if I were you...

Anyway - it's all down to net run-rate, and (if needed) the number of wins - and who against.

I still think England should scrape through at No. 3 in the Super Sixes.

The big match tomorrow should be interesting - Sri Lanka vs. South Africa. I can't choose between the two - but at a pinch, I'd have to say Sri Lanka, even though South Africa have the home advantage (Jayasuriya has been getting miracles from his team, and SA look in disarray...).

[748s]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
And England inevitably blow it...

that makes it more enjoyable.
pulling defeat from the jaws of victory.

australia needed a loss to get them focused again. they could be believing the press on how good they are. the selectors will have a hard job re bichel. the usual story is he gets back in the team, has a good game, then dropped for returning bowler. it's a cruel world, but he never gives up.

the only thing more enjoyable than england blowing it, is watching SA get beaten:D

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Do you ever stop to think that there's anyone else reading this thread apart from us?!?


Ah, well - their loss...

:)

[jaykk]

I am surprised to see India beat Pakistan comfortably..clean record against Pak now 4-0 in world cup. I am seeing India going till Semi

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Nice to see someone in the States following the great game...


I predicted India would go through a week ago -

still, it's going to be a New Zealand vs. Australia Final, I'm afraid...

:D

[748s]

i was wondering if anyone was reading this thread. 850 views suggests there is some people interested.

i thought india would miss out, but when their homes started getting pelted with rocks and effigys of ganguly were burnt, they lifted their game. tendulkars innings against pakistan was something else! there is a lot at stake in india Vs pakistan matches. more than a cricket match.
nz are looking shaky. canada all out 196. cairns and flemming will have to open and just go for it.
10 to 15 an over minimum. what about that canadian (via victoria and south oz) davidson, he has been wacking them. the saffies will be going hard at sri lanka. if sri lanka are back on their game they should roll the saffies. the icc asked for tapes of the sri lanka Vs kenya match. there was suspicion of something dodgy going on. (possibly sri putting down $$$$ on kenya)......everything looked ok to me.:cool:
looks like the super 6 will not be decided until the last balls of tomorrows matches.

[losfp]

I'm just waiting for something to stuff up.. thankfully we had Bevo, the master of holding down an end, and the match of a lifetime from Andy Bichel!! Good honest cricketer, Bichel, I like to see him doing well.

Mind you, once we get into super sixes, I reckon up to 4 teams have a GREAT chance of winning the lot.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

This is just getting nuts...

5 overs to play - South Africa trying to get past 268, currently on 229, 6 wickets down, Klusener in (oh, hell) and NOW it starts to rain. Players off the field - Duckworth/Lewis suggests game is DRAWN if players don't resume - South Africa would be OUT of the World Cup...

On the other hand - if play resumes within the next hour, then South Africa have a very REALISTIC chance of defeating Sri Lanka - and therefore removing New Zealand from the Super Sixes...



I hope it rains...



(oh, please, God...)


:(



I don't think I can watch the rest...

[kiwi_the_iwik]

OK, OK - a double post.

But...

...WHO CARES?!?




NEW ZEALAND ARE THROUGH TO THE SUPER SIXES!!!!!!!



YAAAAHOOOOOO! :D


Match drawn, South Africa are therefore OUT!!!


(what a shame - how sad - never mind...)

[748s]

the perfect way for the saffies to go out.
rain, duckworthlewis says a draw, they get eliminated:p it's better than watching them get beat in a full game. :D

if things are looking grim for aus, bevan pops up and steers the team to a win. that game he won for us a few years back was great.....a 4 off the last ball.....at sydney Vs (?) the windies (?).

we only have to win one game to get through to the semi's. hopefully things don't fall apart so much that 3 are lost. got to get to the final Vs nz.....bevan batting.....5 runs to win.....one ball to go........lucky underarm bowling is illegal:D

hear heavy rain is predicted for the pakistan Vs Zimbabwe match. if it's a draw, zimbabwe are through.

[losfp]

Originally posted by 748s
a 4 off the last ball.....at sydney Vs (?) the windies (?).


Yep, 1st Jan 1996 @ the SCG.. Bevan hit a boundary off the last delivery from Harper to the fence at the Randwick end.

MAGNIFICENT :D

[Macette]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik

God, Daryl Hair's such a CRAP umpire...



I was in Sri Lanka for the mini-World Cup, and Daryl Hair is about as popular in Colombo as Osama in New York. Seriously, they hate him. He umpired a few matches and there was more anti-Daryl stuff in the stands than there was pro-Lankan stuff.

I should've got into this thread earlier... too busy watching the cricket. And now that the AFL's back on... sheesh. Can't get enough sport.

[748s]

Originally posted by losfp
Yep, 1st Jan 1996 @ the SCG.. Bevan hit a boundary off the last delivery from Harper to the fence at the Randwick end.

MAGNIFICENT :D

why is your memory so good?:D
at least you didn't know the time (10:15pm?) and it's no longer called the randwick end. geoff lawson changed the name years ago to the university of new south wales end.:p
it was a GREAT match.

[losfp]

some things you don't forget :D

classic match. IIRC back then the uniforms were gold with the green down the right (?) side. Ah yes (see pic below)

http://www.flickbevan.8m.com/cgi-bin/framed/2573/WorldSeries/After_that_shot.jpg

[748s]

Originally posted by Macette
I was in Sri Lanka for the mini-World Cup, and Daryl Hair is about as popular in Colombo as Osama in New York. Seriously, they hate him. He umpired a few matches and there was more anti-Daryl stuff in the stands than there was pro-Lankan stuff.

I should've got into this thread earlier... too busy watching the cricket. And now that the AFL's back on... sheesh. Can't get enough sport.

i can't believe daryl would even think about going to sri lanka. you would have thought he got the message after he called muri for throwing (again) and the sri lankans were going to walk off (adelaide oval, late 1990's?....losfp do you know where and when?:p).
i'm not a follower of afl, but i'm always interested in what wayne carey's doing :D
or what god's (aka g.ablett) up to:mad:
how's jesus playing? (aka ablett's kiddie).
carn the swannies.

[748s]

Originally posted by losfp
some things you don't forget :D

classic match. IIRC back then the uniforms were gold with the green down the right (?) side. Ah yes (see pic below)


now that's one thing i struggle to keep up with......the uniforms........who is that team playing england? that's australia. no it's not! yes it is.......
one uniform i did like was the nz uniform around the time of the underarm bowling incident:D
two tone brown.....mmmmmmmmmmmm :p

[kiwi_the_iwik]

That *****e brown colour? Gadd - that was foul...

But there were a string of faux pas that the Kiwi's went through. Remember the ill-fated WHITE kit?!? Duh...

Then there was that hideous teal thing during the last World Cup...

At last, they have a decent, usable strip. But I can't see why they don't go for a nice silver fern on the front, in a sea of black. Yeah, baby!

I used to like the West Indies' Maroon & Grey - nice combination. When Viv Richards used to bat, you'd get a blur of colour that blended the two together (or maybe that was just how fast he was...). I can't even remember what strobing effects Joel Garner and Malcolm Marshall used to make with the speed of their deliveries...

The NZ "Brown" era was a sight to behold, though - with great names like Wright, Edgar, Howarth, Cairns (Lance), Chatfield, Sneddon, Greatbatch, Rutherford, Coney, the Crowe brothers, Bracewell, Bock, Patel, Smith and the formidable Hadlee.

Remember Lance Cairns' six consecutive 6's from England's attack? That bat of his - "Excalibur" - was amazing. One of the 6's was actually hit with just one hand - brushed off his pads, square of the wicket!

I was lucky to never miss a 1-Day International at Eden Park in Auckland between 1981 thru 1991, before I moved to Sydney - I was there though thick and thin, and saw many great innings'. Richard Hadlee had to be my all-time favourite bowler - and was simply poetry-in-motion when he bowled...

My first 1-dayer was the match after the underarm incident - Eden Park was set as the return match, and it was BEYOND a sellout. People were actually sitting in front of the billboards, just outside the boundary rope. When the Australian team came on to the field, some smart-alec stood up near the rope, and rolled a lawn bowl out towards the middle of the pitch - much to the enjoyment of the spectators, and the discomfort of the Australians.

Back then, it was amazing to see such a great atmosphere, and it made me really love the game even more. So now - to this day - if the game sucks, I sit and watch the crowd!

:D

Living in London might have its benefits, you say. We've got Lords and the Oval. But on the other side of the coin, you have to sit through an English innings - I suppose you sometimes have to take the good and the bad.

The problem is that tickets are virtually impossible to come by - and many of the tiny amount available to the public are snapped up virtually the instant they go on sale. the majority of tickets are, however, issued to corportations - just like the Rugby. The general public therefore hardly get a look-in - it's how the ECC keeps out the "undesirables". Pompous bastards.

Just my rant for the afternoon...

[kiwi_the_iwik]

SHOCK - HORROR!

ENGLAND OUT OF THE WORLD CUP!

Zimbabwe through to the Super Sixes thanks to the rain...


(He, He, He!) :D

[kettle]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
SHOCK - HORROR!

ENGLAND OUT OF THE WORLD CUP!

Zimbabwe through to the Super Sixes thanks to the rain...


(He, He, He!) :D

That's our best excuse so far, time to take up rounders.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Poor Nasser - you can't help but feel sorry for him. Still - made some bizarre choices against Australia the other day: he showed no faith in his bowlers, and rotated them after an over each!?!

Strange...

No doubt that stalwart of English Cricket - Alec Stewart - will come forth to claim his title of Captain again.

Jeez - the guy won't just lay down and die...

:rolleyes:

[losfp]

Originally posted by 748s
i can't believe daryl would even think about going to sri lanka. you would have thought he got the message after he called muri for throwing (again) and the sri lankans were going to walk off (adelaide oval, late 1990's?....losfp do you know where and when?:p).
i'm not a follower of afl, but i'm always interested in what wayne carey's doing :D
or what god's (aka g.ablett) up to:mad:
how's jesus playing? (aka ablett's kiddie).
carn the swannies.

Err.. You must be thinking of Ross Emerson, 1999, Sri Lanka vs England :D

http://www.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/1998-99/OD_TOURNEYS/CUODS/SCORECARDS/ENG_SL_CUODS_ODI8_23JAN1999.html

Actually my memory isn't REALLY that good - Google's is though :)

I gave up trying to keep track of which scandal Gary Ablett's up to. His older kid has plenty of talent, though I think his younger son might not want to play?

We have NOG though (nephew of god :D) - made his debut last year and will play well this year. C'arn the Bloods.

[Macette]

Nathan Ablett, the younger Jesus, thinks that AFL life is not for him... not surprising, really.

Gary Jr looks the goods though. I hope he stays at Geelong. Carn Catters! I've got my season ticket...

And I remember when Bevo hit that last-ball boundary at the SCG... I was down at Lorne... I cried. I actually cried.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Well - it took me a while to get my head around this RIDICULOUS points system in the Super Sixes...

The points table stands like this:

1. Australia = 12pts
2. Kenya = 10pts
3. India = 8pts
4. Sri Lanka = 7.5pts
5. New Zealand = 4pts
6. Zimbabwe = 3.5pts

Now - this is where it all gets silly. Theoretically, Kenya doesn't even have to win a game to get into the Semi-Finals. How screwed is THAT?!?

New Zealand has it all to do - they really need to win 2 out of the 3 matches to stand a chance - hoping of course that the other sides lose matches too. I think we can beat India and Zimbabwe - so that'll be 12 points. It's the Australia game that will be the tester. If we can pull that one off, then we're in the clear...

Ultimately, the whole tournament has been a shambles from start to finish. Don't get me wrong, though - there's been some great matches. It's just that the organisation left a lot to be desired (i.e. rain days would've been nice, and the Super Sixes should've been Pool A vs. Pool B, with a clean slate - and none of this POINTS nonsense. If Kenya go through, the competition will be a FARCE!).

[evoluzione]

well, being a brit in new york city i for one am NOT willing to pay $300 (about $480 in aussie money i think) to watch it on telly. and of course being english it would be extremely poor value for money to watch my fellow countrymen.

why is it the english invent all these wonderful sports and are complete sh*te at all of them? makes ya wonder eh?

i WILL however be watching the Aussie Formula One grand Prix from Melbourne this coming weekend. am looking forward to that seeing as I haven't seen a F1GP in 3 years when it went off regular cable to digital only. Don't even know who the bloody drivers are these days mind, or what engines go with what car hah :rolleyes:

[evoluzione]

oh crap, england are out already????
eh bollocks, i rest my case about the fees to watch it

[losfp]

I don't mind the points carried over into super sixes. if it's clean slate time as soon as you qualify, it takes away the incentive to win as many matches as possible. This way, every match counts for something. Still a flawed system, but that's my take on it :)

[748s]

was emerson at square leg when he called muri and dazza at the bowlers end? or had sri lanka refused to play under hair by that time? i should pay more attention. the sri lankans walked to the gate. cool, i thought. an international incident. something to rate alongside lillee's aluminium bat or the lillee/mindad punch up. the past is a distant land shrouded in fog.

hussain seems like a decent sort of bloke. he has copped a hiding recently, on and off the field. when i was living in london i had to be at the oval by 6:30am to get a ticket. at that time there was 200 people in the que. you could get a ticket at the gate then.
i must have been a sleep when the white uniform happened. no recollection of that one. would an all black uniform be a negative? standing in the sun on a hot day in black?

you can understand why nathan A. doesn't think football is a good career move. a lot of those older blokes get into some dodgy things......combinations of alcohol/drugs/transvestite prostitutes (or is that danny from the partridge family?)
one of the afl bosses was found dead in a sydney hotel after a drinking binge with a prostitute who gave him some herion. (my memory of these things fade quickly. i think the basics of that story are correct. no names in case i get it terribly wrong and get sued).
long wait for the super 6 to start. friday 7pm (aest). hope i can get through 2 nights with out a game of cricket on the tv :D

[748s]

A unique opportunity has arisen to purchase these limited edition pieces of memorabilia from the ICC World Cup. _There will only be 500 of these released worldwide so be in quick.

The picture captures Mark Boucher in a splendid forward defensive stroke and Lance Klusener happily leaning on his bat at the non-strikers end as the last ball of the 45th over of South Africa's innings is bowled. _It captures perfectly the moment when the South African management had a brain melt down and assured the batsmen that 229 was enough for victory, when they needed 230 to advance to the Super Six. _The picture is titled "Not a-****ing-gain" and will sell at $1000 + p & p.

For an extra $500 you can also buy "Oh ***k it!", the limited edition picture from the 1999 World Cup capturing the sheer confusion of the moment when Allan Donald had a brain
explosion and forgot how to run.

Why not buy the boxed set of "South African Cricket - Why we have never won the ***in World Cup" which includes the previously unreleased "You've got to be ****ing joking!", a picture which captures the looks on the faces of the South African batsmen faces after the big screen flashes up that the revised target they were chasing for victory vs. England in the 1992 World Cup Semi Final: 22 runs off 1 ball.

This opportunity to re-live the greatest moments in South African Cricket
history is very limited so hurry while stocks last.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

I haven't seen the game yet - I had to do a job up in Colchester today (2 hour drive from London), and had to listen to my radio blurting out BBC Radio 4 198LW... Terrible reception...

Well - we've crossed the first hurdle. Now, we have to tackle India and Australia (sorry, guys...). I'm predicting a win for NZ against India, but Australia's going to be tough to call. My patriotism suggests a NZ victory...

What really annoys me is that Kenya theoretically don't even have to win a game to get through to the Semis. This tournament has turned into a joke - the organisers have a lot to answer for - no flexibility with venues, no rain days (especially during the rain season!), a ridiculously biased points system for the Super Six stage... The list goes on...

Still - if NZ gets through, then perhaps I'll forgive them...

Anyway - it'd be great if we won the whole thing...

Especially since we've lost the America's Cup - we've a vacant spot in our trophy cabinet now!

;)

[scem0]

was emerson at square leg when he called muri and dazza at the bowlers end

There is someone else in the world named Emerson?!?!?!?!

Wow! This doesn't happen often. Alert the authorities - get the
media out here - One of the 8 Emerson's on this earth! :rolleyes: :D :D

[748s]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik

What really annoys me is that Kenya theoretically don't even have to win a game to get through to the Semis. This tournament has turned into a joke - the organisers have a lot to answer for - no flexibility with venues, no rain days (especially during the rain season!), a ridiculously biased points system for the Super Six stage... The list goes on...

i would have prefered the windies and pakistan in the super 6. as for the list of complaints, blame the saffies, it's the only decent thing to do (even if they had nothing to do with it). it could have been worse......imagine zimbabwe getting a surprise win, rain stopping a couple of games, first semi...aus Vs nz......second semi....zimbabwe Vs kenya:confused:
that would see some changes for the next cup.

your trophy cabinet might get a big cup this year. you must be a chance for the rugby world cup. aus Vs nz for the final in that one as well:p

[748s]

Originally posted by scem0
There is someone else in the world named Emerson?!?!?!?!

Wow! This doesn't happen often. Alert the authorities - get the
media out here - One of the 8 Emerson's on this earth! :rolleyes: :D :D

sorry that's his family name. thousands of emersons round my way:p

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Here it is - my latest predictions (since my LAST lot were blown out of the water thanks to the South African WET summer...)

Australia beat New Zealand and Kenya
India beat Sri Lanka, lose to New Zealand
Zimbabwe lose to Sri Lanka, beat Kenya
New Zealand lose to Australia, beat India
Sri Lanka lose to India, beat Zimbabwe
Kenya lose to Australia and Zimbabwe

Therefore, the Super Six table should look like this:

Australia - 24 pts
India - 16 pts
New Zealand - 12 pts
Sri Lanka - 11.5 pts
_________________

Kenya - 10 pts
Zimbabwe - 7.5 pts


First Semi-Final - Australia beat Sri Lanka

Second Semi-Final - New Zealand beat India

Final - New Zealand vs. Australia (everyone's happy...)


:D

[748s]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
Here it is - my latest predictions (since my LAST lot were blown out of the water thanks to the South African WET summer...)
First Semi-Final - Australia beat Sri Lanka
Second Semi-Final - New Zealand beat India
Final - New Zealand vs. Australia (everyone's happy...):D

i'd be happy with that.

but the way things are happening, the final could be kenya Vs zimbabwe:eek:

i'd be happier if nz beat australia on tuesday.
nothing like going into a final re-focused.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Originally posted by 748s
...nothing like going into a final re-focused...

Exactly. That's why a loss against Australia on Tuesday may make the New Zealanders rally during the final...

;)

[748s]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
Exactly. That's why a loss against Australia on Tuesday may make the New Zealanders rally during the final...

;)

so it's agreed......the loser of tuedays game will win the final:p

those pesky nz'ers will probably go easy, take a loss so they can win the final:D

[kiwi_the_iwik]

New Zealand came one step closer to the semis with an AMAZING win by India over Sri Lanka - by 183 runs!

Srinath got 4 wickets in quick succession to leave Sri Lanka reeling with no top-line batsmen left to attack the 292/6 (Tendulkar 97) put on by India. He finished 4/35, giving him Man of the Match honours...

Now - all we have to do is beat either India or Australia to confirm our place in the Semi's (at least 3rd - which means we don't face Australia in the Semi Finals!!!)

:D

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Ritchie Benaud usually has two words to say in this type of situation -


"...oh, dear..."


:)

[losfp]

You think you're SOOOOOOOOOOOO good now, don't you?!?! :mad:

:D Seriously though, we've always had problems against the Kiwis' slower bowlers and more recently Fleming just seems to know what to do against us. luckily Bevan and Bichel got the score above 200 (with some help from Brett Lee!!) which is at least defendable. I wish I could stay up for the 2nd innings, but I only got 4 hours sleep last night.. 2 nights of that in a row .. *yawn*..

Good luck, kiwi_the_iwik, but hopefully I wake up to a glorious Aussie win :D Glenn McGrath will have to take 7/15 again!

[748s]

damn that bevan and bichel. all out for 100 would have been much better. we need to lose this game. nothing like a loss to re-focus and make you realise anyone can be beaten. the pitch looks to be getting flatter so a flemming century would help us more than nz (for the semis and final). losfp, really, you would prefer to get up tomorrow morning with a big loss:D.
it would help us for the final and the kiwis can take comfort in beating us once:D gotta go they are due out on the field about now

[losfp]

what, "this is the loss we had to have"?? :)

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Ritchie Benaud:

"...oh, dear - oh, deary me..."


:(


I thought we had that in the bag...

Ah, well - my predictions are finally coming true. There's nothing like lulling you guys into a false sense of security! Well played!

:)

I wonder what Ponting said to Cairns after he got out? Hmmmm...

[losfp]

Good work by the Kiwi bowlers in the first innings though!!! I'm getting a bit worried, up to now SOMEONE has stood up to steady an innings, what happens if we're suddenly ALL gone?

I should have stayed up a little more!! Went to bed with the score at 5-100, and the Kiwis were all out for 112!

[748s]

yes, this is the loss we had to have! cricket is a game of averages. with every win aus get closer to a loss. better now, not in a knockout game.
those bloody kiwis have done it again, fooled us completely;) they have set themselves up to win the next 3 games (super 6, semi, final). i can lip read, ponting said.."well batted mr. cairns. you were very unlucky to get out on such a fine shot. see you in the final. the changing shed is straight ahead. just keep walking, you'll find it.":D
if we were all gone, 5 for 100 would have been a win for the kiwis. hopefully they realise that 7 for not many can happen again and adjust to that pitch. they don't go well batting there but have managed to grab 2 wins (england/nz). aus play their semi at that ground. hopefully against kenya:D then it's off to joburg for the final against nz:cool:

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Zimbabwe should knock over Kenya without too many problems. That means Sri Lanka should get in by the skin of their teeth...

New Zealand MUST win against India - considering their One-Day record against them this Summer, it should be close - but New Zealand should win it. Tendulkar tends to dislike these "dead" pitches - they're a bowler's paradise (just like those in New Zealand during the India tour - NZ won the ODI series 5-2).

The groundsmen during this World Cup have done a bad job of making up the wickets - they're incredibly biased towards a bowling side...

[748s]

zimbabwe should do a lot of things, one being to play cricket. zim all out 133, kenya 0-11 off 3:eek: . if kenya get 134 tonight (today) nz have to beat india. or it is over for nz. unless zim beat sri lanka:confused: right now it is looking like the best nz can do is finish 4th and have a re-match with aus at port elizabeth:rolleyes:
unless zim can roll kenya for under 133:confused: :confused:
the groundsman.....are saffies after all. the wickets would have been biased to favour the saffies in all their games:mad: didn't work.
a few grounds have good batting wickets. port elizabeth is the slowest of the lot. aus has scored 300+ at centurion. as an ex bowler all i can say is...."the bloody batsmen have had it too good for toooooo long. more bias to the bowlers".....:D
kenya 0-24 off 7:eek:

[losfp]

748, I like lots of wickets too :D

Of course, my preference is for a wicket that plays nicely for the batsmen, but which also ocassionally gives the bowler a bit of help... Failing that, bowlers running rampant is a heck of a lot more interesting to me than batsmen belting the leather off the ball for 100 overs :) all just imho of course..

[kiwi_the_iwik]

...Damn!


Well - thanks to Kenya's emphatic win over the hapless Zimbabweans, New Zealand still has only TWO chances to make the semi finals...

If New Zealand beat India, we're home.

If Zimbabwe beat Sri Lanka, ditto.

Regardless of how we get there, one thing is certain if we DO make it -

We face Australia in the semis.

:(

[748s]

Originally posted by losfp
748, I like lots of wickets too :D

Of course, my preference is for a wicket that plays nicely for the batsmen, but which also ocassionally gives the bowler a bit of help... Failing that, bowlers running rampant is a heck of a lot more interesting to me than batsmen belting the leather off the ball for 100 overs :) all just imho of course..

i love watching batsmen jumping around and squealing like stuck pigs........a natural reaction to being belted around the park for so many years by various batsmen:p

[748s]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
If New Zealand beat India, we're home.


it all hinges on fridays match against india. india have booked a ticket straight through to the final, so they may be relaxed and not so focused. Plus, they always do their "best" to make sure pakistan and sri lanka get eliminated before they do. a nz win would eliminate sri lanka. india have a history of getting "results" that suit them.
based on the law of averages, aus is getting very close to a loss:rolleyes:

[kiwi_the_iwik]

I certainly hope that India don't throw their match against New Zealand - as we are perhaps the only team left that has ANY chance of stopping the Australians...

Still - it'll be a good tussle. New Zealand just finished sweeping the floor with India at home - beat them in the Test, slaughtered them in the One-Dayers.

Also, John Wright (ex-opening batsman for New Zealand) is India's head coach. Where do you think HIS loyalties lie?!? If his team beats NZ, I don't fancy his chances returning to Christchurch for a holiday...

;)

[748s]

nz Vs ind at centurion. aus rolled ind for 125 there.....bowling line and length (at pace of course) then lost one wicket before getting the runs. aus played sri lanka there as well.....they scored 5-319 and rolled sri for 223. west indies beat canada there, but j.davidson (for canada) scored the fastest century in a wcc match (canada all out 202 windies 3 for ). runs can be scored there and the main wicket takers have been the pace bowlers. spinners have only got 9 of the 39 wickets that have fallen in 3 matches at centurion. so the indian spin bowlers could struggle (especially if cairns goes after them). Memories of the recent nz tour could upset them. if bond can take out tendulkars middle stump early, they will crumble. good luck;)

[kiwi_the_iwik]

A few changes -

*Vincent should open with Fleming
*Cairns should come in straight after to pick up the rate if we lose an early wicket
*Leave Vettori down the order for a bit of stability - and to let loose in the last 10 overs

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has mcmillan been dropped because of form or injury? he has been up the order and not getting many. 5 or 6 would suit him at this stage of his career. he would be better playing a bevan like role than trying to belt the leather off, opening or at 3. vettori is a big gamble opening. one in 10 times it will work and they get a big run rate early. flemming will open and will just not want to get out.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Maybe Cairns should have a bowl as well...

McMillian has been playing like 4 different types of poo lately. I think he's been dropped on form - Vincent's a safer bet. He throws himself around the field a bit, so he really gets in there.

(Is it just me, or does he look the spitting image of Darren Stevens from Bewitched?!?)

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well vincent will not open. he has been dropped and mcmillan is back in. this probably will be mcmillans last game for nz unless he gets a quick 50+.

bewitched......can't remember what either of them look like. i remember seeing a cricketer recently that looked like the original bloke in bewitched....dick york. that was confusing.....when sam's husband changed and no one noticed. obviously some witchcraft

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Zaheer Khan just blasted through NZ's top line batsmen - at one point they were 2 wickets down for no runs.

McMillain wasn't a safe option, I think. Astle out for a GOLDEN DUCK - NZ in dire need of consolidation.

We need Fleming to get a firm grip here...

:(

19/2 now off 3 - with 11 off the last over. NOW we're back...

:)

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india 3-79 off 20 chasing 146.
you're in miracle territory now. a zimbabwe win is looking like your only hope. miracle.
we will have sri lanka in the semi.....at port elizabeth. a wicket that suits sri lanka. hayden and gilchrist will have to go after them. hayden is due for a big one. it's like you said.....in an earlier post....."have aus peaked to soon?":confused:

[kiwi_the_iwik]

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!


:(


Our only hope lies with Zimbabwe now. A doubtful prospect - but like you said in a previous post:

"...it's a funny old game..."

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MAAAAAAYBEEEE?????
well zim are now 2-104 off 19 chasing 256.
those kiwis don't know if they have to unpack or stay packed and get a flight to nz.
i thought sri lanka would have made sure they got 300 or more. maybe they have had a bet:D
if kenya can beat australia, we'll get kenya in the semi and you'll get india.......so it can be a nz Vs aus final:p cricket being a "funny game", if you get through to the semis you'll probably win the cup:mad:

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Game over for the Kiwis.

They didn't deserve to go through if Zimbabwe beat Sri Lanka anyway.

The Black Caps shot themselves in the foot so many times -

*experimenting in their game with Sri Lanka
*not playing Kenya
*being let down by their batsmen against Australia when put in a great position by some superb bowling/fielding
*blowing it against India with sloppy fieldwork and poor batting

Time to consolidate. Look ahead to the NEXT World Cup.

All I can say is - NOTHING ON EARTH can stop the rampaging Australians. They are UNDOUBTEDLY the best team in the World...

...and would take some beating.

;)

Good luck!

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bummer. not playing in kenya cost more than 4 points.....different teams in super 6...more points carried into super 6.......the next cup is in the windies, no need not to play any games there (at this stage anyway).
india have now won 7 straight. sri lanka should have had a bigger win against zim. they are up and down. hopefully they are down in the semi. aus had kenya 3-0 off 2 overs, yet kenya got a reasonable score and aus lost 5 wickets chasing. the final should be aus Vs india.
but any of the 4 teams could get through.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

I'm convinced of an Australia vs. India final.

Sri Lanka just don't have the legs, and Kenya don't have the experience and focus.

Australia should watch out for a fired-up India though - watch out for Ganguly, Sehwag, Tendulkar, Khan and Shrinath...

(in other words - pretty much the whole team...)

After their disasterous tour of New Zealand, they seem to have peaked at the right time. I suppose those death threats against them back in India helped to spur them on as well...

;)

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i suppose 900 million people saying don't come home you are going to die might of got india focused. sri lanka and aus have a lot of histroy. when ever they play aus, sri lanka have pics of dazza hair all over the sheds. it fires them up:eek: it's the knockout stage now. anything can happen. an early wicket or three, mass panic and a team is gone. logic says aus will win. this is cricket, logic doesn't apply:D to quote the man in the white suit and white hair........"cricket, it's a funny game"..........:cool:

[mj_1903]

What a match. Australia sucked in batting, Brett Lee fired in bowling....sounds highly original. Lol.

The next match (Australia v India) is going to be fantastic. I want to see Australia get off to a blinder in batting (Gilchrist, Hayden, Ponting, Lehmann and Bevan all firing together for once) and Australia's ultra-dangerous pair of Brett and Glenn finishing the game off.

Dreams I guess...but anything is possible with Australia.

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the joburg wicket will produce more runs than port elizabeth. the top order are due and "should" get some runs. hayden is over due for a score. if aus bat first they will need 310+ to feel like they are in a position to win. mcgath or lee need to knock over tendulkar inside the first 10 overs. that is all based on india beating kenya. india should do it easy.......BUT anything could happen. kenya slowed up australia in the super 6 match. there is rain in the durban area......bit of luck, bit of rain, duckworth-lewis method and kenya win. though i expect to see india on the field next sunday......"it's a funny game".

[kiwi_the_iwik]

The biggest thing you have to worry about in Johannesburg is the thinner atmosphere...

At 2500 metres above sea level, it'll take a lot out of the team bowling first - being in the field in the hot hours of the day will drain them.

Best to BAT first, ask questions later...

[RandomDeadHead]

Hmmm sports.


Seams like too much work and effort to me.
I am the perfect example of american lazyness.
Dont get me wrong I am not fat, just extremely lazy.
But if you like them, cool.

[losfp]

RDH, that's why I WATCH sports ;) I try not to PLAY if at all possible....

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Originally posted by RandomDeadHead
Hmmm sports.


Seams like too much work and effort to me.
I am the perfect example of american lazyness.
Dont get me wrong I am not fat, just extremely lazy.
But if you like them, cool.

cricket sounds like a sport you are ideally suited to. it's the perfect lazy sport. a lot of champion cricketers are fat and lazy, inzaman al haq, warnie, mike gatting, mark taylor....most of them in fact. for the first part of the game you sit in a chair watching your team bat or stand in a park with a big hat watching the other team bat. after awhile you stop for lunch and a snooze then continue watching or standing until it's "tea". you then have tea and cream cakes. have a shorter snooze then play until it's time to go to the pub for a drink and tell lies to your team mates. then you do it again the next day or weekend depending on what level you are playing. there's lots of eating, drinking, sitting/standing, snoozing then afterwards lots of beer.
and if you don't play you can follow the same routine at home watching it on tv. at home you can sit down all day...no standing....but you have to supply your own food and drinks.....but going to the pub and telling lies is still part of the home routine:cool:

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Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
The biggest thing you have to worry about in Johannesburg is the thinner atmosphere...

At 2500 metres above sea level, it'll take a lot out of the team bowling first - being in the field in the hot hours of the day will drain them.

Best to BAT first, ask questions later...

it will be a big toss to win. even without the altitude, ponting will want to bat first and get 310+. another saffie dirty trick......having the final in joburg.....they didn't get into the final though:D

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2-359. one hand on the cup. only tendulkar can get it for india. maybe ganguly......but winning the toss and putting aus in :confused: what's that all about? :confused: aus just keep getting stronger. expecting them to falter. ponting has just got the waugh monkey off his back. 140n.o. if india can get 360......well they can't....funny game, cricket.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

I WAS about to say that India had 2 shows of winning:

1) No show

and

2) The Easter Show...



Now it seems there's a mini-fightback taking place.





All I can say is Cricket is the winner today.

:cool:

[mj_1903]

3-103 is a mini-fightback?

Naw. They still have 54 more runs to get to beat duckworth lewis in 8 overs so the games not over yet. Another wicket or two and its lights out for India.

[losfp]

:D

Well done lads - Darren Lehmann finishes the world cup final, just as he did in 1999.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Congratulations on a SUPERB victory!


Just as a footnote:

Can ANYONE beat these guys?!?

;)

[losfp]

Kiwi - me and a mate were actually chatting about it in the innings break. a few years ago, Australia had just won 16 in a row and had scored a massive 1st innings total against India - we lost.

Last night, we were either 15 or 16 in a row and had scored a massive 1st innings total against India......

;)