What's Next... iPod Updates?

[MacRumors]

5GB iPod supplies (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030122112950.shtml) have been absent since January. Apple has been reporting that this is due to "high holiday demand".

Most recent hints (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/02/20030203004914.shtml) have indicated that iPod updates are imminent... however, only preliminary info (http://www.macrumors.com/page2/) has been available. Hints of upgrades continue to trickle in... but again, nothing definitive.

New Toshiba drives (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/02/20030203032124.shtml) seem to be the likely candidates for upgrades to the iPod line. iPods were last refreshed by Apple in July 2002 at MacWorld Expo New York with the introduction of the 20GB iPod.

[pyrotoaster]

How long does Apple expect us to believe that "high holiday demand" is still affecting their iPod supply?
Also, Macwhispers (http://www.macwhispers.com) says that new iPods are "very likely" this week.

[KLFloyd]

I REALLY hope we see updates soon.

I don't expect to see many feature upgrades, I hope Apple focuses on fixing some of the problems with the current model such as the battery life issue.

My predictions:
- Price Drops
- Larger HD sizes
- Firmware update (ACC?)

I hope:
- Mic. in
- User Replaceable battery
- Bluetooth/Airport support of some type
- FM tuner


I'll just keep my fingers crossed, anyone think this is going to be happening tomorrow?

[Bear]

For what it's worth, some of the Apple stores are down for updating.

The rest will probably be down shortly.

I guess we find out in a hour or so what is up.

This could also be an indication that Apple wants to make sure we don't expect everything to be on a Tuesday either. :D

[PumaCode]

Maybe it's finally time for the Xserve upgrade? :rolleyes:

[melchior]

wow! a somewhat surprise product update. maybe not so, since raid xserves were expected. i don't really count macwhispers predictions as anything credible...

it seems early for the uk store to go down, unless one team does them all sequentially.... we'll see in a few hours i gues...

[jtrascap]

Well, the US one and the Dutch ARE in fact down - I posted earlier that they were up. My bad. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

Still - if I could get a 10Gb iPod at $250, and a 20 at $350, I'd jump. Even without updates (bluetooth, mic in, flux capacitor, etc)

I *would* like it to play OGG, but that's a QT issue...

[Bear]

Originally posted by melchior
...

it seems early for the uk store to go down, unless one team does them all sequentially.... we'll see in a few hours i gues...
The European stores have been known to go down a half hour or so before the US store when new/updated products are being announced.

This was true for last weeks iMac updates.

[bortek]

Look at the applestores in Europe http://store.apple.com/Apple/Webobjects/francestore/ they're off for 20 minutes now.
But US Store still open. What does that mean ?

[melchior]

it means, as bear just said that the europe stores go down before the US store...

however, i still think it's unusually early for a realease... i mean it's 0445 Cupertino time...

[TheT]

Usually, they release updates on Tuesdays, for whatever reason...
The German Store is down too btw.... I just really hope they will have iPod updates, I just sold my 5 GB so that I can afford one of the new ones now :)

[Bear]

Originally posted by melchior
it means, as bear just said that the europe stores go down before the US store...

however, i still think it's unusually early for a realease... i mean it's 0445 Cupertino time...
Nah, it isn't. When the PowerMac updates were done a couple of weeks ago, this is about the time they were happening. The store was back up before 6 AM Pacific (Cupertino) time and taking orders.

[Tiauguinho]

They have been down for half an hour now... I wonder when will the US store come down...

[melchior]

someone once told me (on these forums) that they update on tuesdays because once upon a time stoares were closed on sundays and mondays...

but, it's ummm, american monday...

[millhouse]

im wondering what the pricing scheme will be, we'eve seen about every new release so far get about a 200 dollar price break and bumped specs. maybe we'll get lucky and see the 5gb, 20gb and 40gb ipod lineup.


my prediction

5gb - 125-150
20gb - 250-300
40gb - 400

as for connection i wonder if they'll go firewire 800 , i kinda hope not cuz i dont have firewire 800 jsut 400 and dont know if the adapter does 800 connection to 400 connection.

[Tiauguinho]

Apple Store US is currently down and Updating... buckle up guys! New Products coming!

[Bear]

Originally posted by millhouse
...

my prediction

5gb - 125-150
20gb - 250-300
40gb - 400

...

Given everything that has been said, I highky doubt there will be a 5GB model. Probably there will be 10, 20 and 40GB Units.

[TheT]

Originally posted by Bear


Given everything that has been said, I highky doubt there will be a 5GB model. Probably there will be 10, 20 and 40GB Units.
I agree... they haven't even produced 5 GB iPods after Christmas anymore...
IMO NO FW800 either... they still have products that don't support it.

[TheT]

How long does updating usually take? another 40 minutes maybe? :rolleyes:

[vanillamike]

Ya no FW 800 considering the new iMacs didn't even support it. Plus it would cost alot in the short term to supply the addapter when the majority of people can't use it.

Mike

[8thDegreeSavage]

Still down.

[Bear]

Originally posted by TheT
How long does updating usually take? another 40 minutes maybe? :rolleyes:
Probably that at the longest. It seems they're back up by 6 AM Pacific (9 AM Eastern) with these unnanounced updates.

[TheT]

Originally posted by Bear

Probably that at the longest. It seems they're back up by 6 AM Pacific (9 AM Eastern) with these unnanounced updates.
Yeah, that would make sense... I am soo exited :D lol... finally, I'm gonna get a new iPod... and this time, no scratches :)
hopefully, it'll be one, and no Xserve RAID...

[gopher]

Originally posted by jtrascap
Well, the US one and the Dutch ARE in fact down - I posted earlier that they were up. My bad. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

Still - if I could get a 10Gb iPod at $250, and a 20 at $350, I'd jump. Even without updates (bluetooth, mic in, flux capacitor, etc)

I *would* like it to play OGG, but that's a QT issue...

OGG is possible on the Mac, just not on the iPod yet.

http://illadvised.com/~jordy/

[TheT]

Originally posted by gopher


OGG is possible on the Mac, just not on the iPod yet.

http://illadvised.com/~jordy/
But it's no official part of QuickTime, therefore they will most likely not include it... maybe AAC, but I doubt that, too...
I'm predicting new models, but no new SW.

[Outsider]

It's only a matter of time now.

ipods or 15.4" powerbooks? Your guess is as good as mine.

[RedEric]

Come on Arn what isn't it this week?

;)

[DeusOmnis]

I need my ipod to have pda capabilities. it better or apple is getting nuked.

[G4scott]

Yeah! Apple store is down. I wonder what's next...

If it's an iPod update, I hope the have a software updater for the old ones too that add any functions the new ones have that the old ones are capable of.

[melchior]

the itunes update, macrumors tentively mentions as April seems like the likely time for AAC (and ogg????) update for ipod...

though this is my #1 wish for iPod...

the only thing that brings me hope is the recent update to quicktime gove a lot of now options forr MP4. (though still only 320x240 video)

[G4scott]

Originally posted by DeusOmnis
I need my ipod to have pda capabilities. it better or apple is getting nuked.

Why don't you just get a $99 PDA? If you can afford a 1ghz DP PowerMac and an iPod, then surely you can find the cash for a small PDA. The iPod would be a horrible PDA because it lacks the user input functions that a PDA would require. Inputing text using that scroll wheel would take days...

[dethl]

Anyone notice this on the main page of the Apple website? http://www.apple.com/hardware/superdrive/

And the store is still down.

[MacFan25]

Hopefully the iPod updates will come today or tomorrow. I think that we will see lower prices and maybe a 40 GB. But if we were to get a 40 GB, I think that the 5 GB would be discontinued.

[TheT]

Originally posted by dethl
Anyone notice this on the main page of the Apple website? http://www.apple.com/hardware/superdrive/

And the store is still down.
It's been there for a while now... nothing special.

[G4scott]

is it just me, or are the switch and .Mac tabs on the top of Apple's temporary store page nonexistant?

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore/

[CrackedButter]

I never expected it to be down today, i thought an update was coming tomorrow.

[DeusOmnis]

Originally posted by G4scott


Why don't you just get a $99 PDA? If you can afford a 1ghz DP PowerMac and an iPod, then surely you can find the cash for a small PDA. The iPod would be a horrible PDA because it lacks the user input functions that a PDA would require. Inputing text using that scroll wheel would take days...




Because I wanted to get a newton, and i also dont want to have to carry around 2 things when i can carry one. My roommate has a sony clie which is both an mp3 player and a pda. Apple could just boost the screen size a bit and there ya go.

[RedEric]

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[TheT]

Originally posted by G4scott
is it just me, or are the switch and .Mac tabs on the top of Apple's temporary store page nonexistant?

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore/
Same here! (using safari)

[G4scott]

xServe!!!

[TheT]

No iPods :(

[melchior]

i'm so sad... no ipod =(

[TheT]

Well, iPods next week, that's good too :)

[G4scott]

when you go to the xServe and xServe RAID pages, are there image places at the top below the tabs that don't have images?

[richie]

xServe RAID too,

http://www.apple.com/xserve/raid/

:)

[CrackedButter]

No ibook then, ah well stay tuned for next weeks update.

[TheT]

Jep... but just wait for them to completely update everything :D

[Tiauguinho]

Good Good!!! ATA133!!! thats wonderfull!

[melchior]

ATA133?

serial ATA should really be included.

[Bear]

This is pure speculation.

Since Apple has been changing the rules on when they announce updates, is there a chance they'll do two updates the same week?

[vanillamike]

I was thinking the same thing, could the iPod still get announced tomorrow? However, after thinking about it for a bit there is no way they would release the iPod so soon after this. The splash page is the bigest advertisment online so I couldn't see them taking down the Xserver stuff after just one day.

Now if the only revision is capicity and they don't deem it a huge revision I guess they could stick a green sticker on the iPod in the online store and put a mini advertisment under the Xserver junk.

Mike

P.S. I wish it was iPod day :(

[sparks9]

I think we could see an iPod update tomorrow....

Apple always releases new stuff on tuesdays, so why didn't they release the xserve tomorrow? Maybe because that's when they'll update the iPods??
This is of course just speculation.

[melchior]

mmmm, i wouldn't be hopeful of iPod update tomorrow.

i say more software this week

and next week ibook/14.4" powerbook or iPod

apple seems to be strategizing releases all quarter to keep media payingg attention, it would be a waste to do two new one's in a week

the new Xraid is pretty impressive. it should get decent coverage

[grimmace]

I wouldn't be suprised if the iPod is released this week with a commercial for Valentines day. Give one to your sweatheart or something like that.

[KLFloyd]

I had my hopes up (again) for an iPod update this week, but the XServe really threw me for a loop, and on a Monday. That's different.

I don't know, I'm now leaning towards thinking that it's not going to happen after all. Two producs in one week, seems unlikley. Though I just did pay my MasterCard off and I've got it sitting ready to go just incase! :)

The string of products Apple has released in such a short time span, all since MacWorld has really surprised me. Hey, I would LOVE if Apple would release a new product every week of the year! They just can't keep this up, throwing everything out in the 1st quarter or they'll be dry by December.

But I did have a question for anyone out there... We've heard several reports of people who ordered iPods from Apple weeks ago and have had their ship dates pushed back. I was woundering if anyone out there has received their iPod or has been pushed back by Apple. To me it seems that there's a shortage of iPods out there.

Here's to hoping on Tuesday...

[Bear]

Originally posted by KLFloyd
I had my hopes up (again) for an iPod update this week, but the XServe really threw me for a loop, and on a Monday. That's different.
They have done Monday announcements before. Could this have been a response to Sun having a major product announcement today. (Sun had advertised the announcement last week.)
The string of products Apple has released in such a short time span, all since MacWorld has really surprised me. Hey, I would LOVE if Apple would release a new product every week of the year! They just can't keep this up, throwing everything out in the 1st quarter or they'll be dry by December.
I'm sure Apple can do a couple of Announcements a month with a six month cycle on updating a particular product. Although I can see Apple shortening update cycles if processor upgrades come out frequently enough.

[RBMaraman]

Originally posted by CrackedButter
No ibook then, ah well stay tuned for next weeks update.

You think an iBook update is coming? No way. It'll be at least April before the iBook's are updated.

What can they add? They don't want the G3 iBook to surpass the 12" G4 PowerBook. I think the next iBook upgrade will be a total redesign.

[BillyShears]

There's still hope for an iPod update tomorrow.

As Bear said, Sun had a major product announcement today, and also it may be relevant that today is Monday, the start of a business week. I'm thinking they don't sell XServe in the Apple Stores, but they do sell consumer products such as iPods, obviously. That in mind, shipping is business days, no? They don't need to ship the XServe, so they can announce it Monday, but they need to ship the iPods Monday, a business day.

Of course, I know nothing and I'm grasping at straws.

Retailers have been saying for a while though that there are no backorders on 5 gig iPods.

[melchior]

yeah, that's not such a bad point bear. the xserve will not ship until march.

they want ipods to be in stores...

just my opinion, but if they did i think apple would keep xserve on the frontpage. therefore suggesting very minor updates to ipods.

[KLFloyd]

Originally posted by melchior
just my opinion, but if they did i think apple would keep xserve on the frontpage. therefore suggesting very minor updates to ipods.

Well, I'll grasp at straws with you all!

Apple has been known to rotate their front page, one time you load it it's the XServe and the iPod is on one of the smaller boxes. Then the next time the iPod is big and the XServe is small. In fact they use to do that all the time, seems they've gotten away from that lately.

Well, I guess we'll know in about 15 hours...

[RLB]

Originally posted by melchior
yeah, that's not such a bad point bear. the xserve will not ship until march.

they want ipods to be in stores...

just my opinion, but if they did i think apple would keep xserve on the frontpage. therefore suggesting very minor updates to ipods.

I agree, I think that maybe they released xserve on Monday so that they could release the ipods tomorrow.

[MacKid]

Originally posted by KLFloyd
I REALLY hope we see updates soon.

I don't expect to see many feature upgrades, I hope Apple focuses on fixing some of the problems with the current model such as the battery life issue.

My predictions:
- Price Drops
- Larger HD sizes
- Firmware update (ACC?)

I hope:
- Mic. in
- User Replaceable battery
- Bluetooth/Airport support of some type
- FM tuner


I'll just keep my fingers crossed, anyone think this is going to be happening tomorrow?

Well, the latest trend for keeping Apple in the press and involving updates seems to be usually within the timespan of 1-2 weeks.

[chewbaccapits]

to fork over some bucks for a new ipod...But is it that the 5 gigers that give you the BATTERY problem or is it all of them...??

[job]

I'm ready to cough up the cash for a new iPod too, but only if I can be assured that it won't die on me within 6 months and be hampered by battery problems.

[JGowan]

Originally posted by KLFloyd
Apple has been known to rotate their front page, one time you load it it's the XServe and the iPod is on one of the smaller boxes. Then the next time the iPod is big and the XServe is small.True. This morning began with the usual ritual of checking Apple's website first thing (and finding out about XServe/Raid); the next thing I did was a REFRESH of the homepage... and another and another... finally decided that no other announcements were in the pipeline. I, too, was hoping for an IPOD announcement.

Maybe tomorrow... I think it is a great way to showcase two Big product announcements at once. Depending on who you are, you'll be drawn by one or the other... or both!

iJim

[deckard]

Sun announced an overhaul of their server line today, so apple announcing xserve updates on a monday isn't odd.

[KLFloyd]

Originally posted by chewbaccapits
to fork over some bucks for a new ipod...But is it that the 5 gigers that give you the BATTERY problem or is it all of them...??

I've heard the problem affects all lines but keep in mind that not everyone has this problem. Personally, I think it's a design flaw/firmware issue. Unlike a computer, your iPod never really does turn off it just goes into sleep mode. This is why you get the "instant on" with the iPod. There's also no backup battery in the iPod so things like the clock feature take up your main battery.

This is why if you leave your iPod unused for a few weeks you'll find that your battery is dead.

Anyway, there is a ton of information on this subject over at the Apple iPod disucussion boards.

[vanillamike]

So no iPod today :( Here's hoping for next Tuesday. The weeks seem to get longer and longer ;)

Mike

[Timothy]

Or are people just assuming that Apple will release new iPods directly on the heels of the release of larger Toshiba drives?

It seems to me that these rumors are built of nothing more than wishful thinking. And, you've all wrapped yourselves into a frenzy waiting for new iPods. Hey, I've been there! But, my guess is that we won't see new iPods for a while yet.

My take is that Apple needs to refresh the line, with something more than a storage bump. And, to do so, they'll need some lead time to work with new enclosures and features, following the release of larger drives. So, I don't expect to see anything in the next couple of weeks.

But, since I base my analysis on nothing more than the rest of you do, I could be wrong as well...:D

[JGowan]

Originally posted by Timothy
My take is that Apple needs to refresh the line, with something more than a storage bump. And, to do so, they'll need some lead time to work with new enclosures and features, following the release of larger drives.I dissagree.

I think they've been working on, for all intents and purposes, "IPOD 2" for a long while now. Your statement makes it seem like the next big revision isn't on the drawing board yet.

For all we know the makers of these super small drives have had 40GB drives ever since Apple first released the 5GB version. Why show your technology hand? These makers probably have a lot bigger than that and just are letting these 5, 10 and 20GB drives lose their momentum on their own. Ask yourself... if you were a potential IPOD buyer and KNEW for certain that an 80GB version loomed early next year, would you REALLY buy a 20GB (or even a 40GB) version right now? NO... you'd wait. These makers know this and hold their technology very close.

You can bet, though, that Apple knows for certain about all of their suppliers' technology and have signed all kinds of NON-DISCLOSURE contracts so that they'll be able to work on an IPOD 2 (let's say) all the while, knowing that the supplier isn't EVEN planning on releasing them en masse any time soon.

iJim

[vanillamike]

There is a really intersting article over at macwhispers (http://www.envestco2.com/macwhispers/0000027.php) where they talk about part suppliers. The article basically says no new parts are in the pipeline to build a new DLD en masse.

I am fine with that, I never really wanted a coulour screen or FireWire 800. I just hope the new hard drives find their way to the iPod soon, along with a price drop, and maybe a firmware upgrades to run .aac is that too much to ask?

I wonder the same thing though, are those new hard drives going to make it into the iPod before they are sold for a while? Hmm I sure hope so!

Mike

P.S. Those screens Apple purchased from Kodak, are they being used for anything currently? A lot of time has passed and I haven't heard much about them in a while.

[vniow]

Originally posted by vanillamike
P.S. Those screens Apple purchased from Kodak, are they being used for anything currently? A lot of time has passed and I haven't heard much about them in a while.


There's been no word on who purchaced the screens from Kodak, it could be Apple, could be Sony, who knows?

[Timothy]

Originally posted by JGowan
[B]I think they've been working on, for all intents and purposes, "IPOD 2" for a long while now. Your statement makes it seem like the next big revision isn't on the drawing board yet.

Oh, I agree that Apple and Toshiba are in discussion long before a product is released as to what is in the pipeline. My only point is that it is ridiculous to think that new iPods will be released within 1 week of the release of the drives. History already has shown us that Apple didn't release new iPods as soon as the 20 gig drives were released...as I recall, it took another 2-3 months before we saw them.

We just have groups of people here waiting for the immediate release of new iPods. I think it will be a couple of months; that is, unless somebody in the know has some specific information. From what I've seen, this entire thread is built solely on the release of new drives from Toshiba.

All I'm saying is that if you are getting up at 6 am to check the Apple site every day, you may want to relax a bit. :D

[Anne]

I think that the pretty much complete lack of 5gb availability and word from folks of limited 10gb availability (I read one some board, maybe this one, that someone has run into a supplier that is actually completely out of 10 gb, not just low on them), we'd all hope that something is happening soon. If I knew that there weren't going to be new ipods released for many months, I'd probably go ahead and buy a 5gb ipod right now. But I can't. Maybe they'll replenish. But if the anecdotes of shortages of the 10gb size are accurate also, you've gotta wonder what's happening over there at Apple. They have customers who can't consume! Either it's really bad strategy and planning on their part, or they are letting the supplies dwindle because they are replacing them with new products. I want to hope it's the second, if only because I want to have a bit of faith in the company. But who knows. :(

[Mr. G4]

Originally posted by Timothy


Oh, I agree that Apple and Toshiba are in discussion long before a product is released as to what is in the pipeline. My only point is that it is ridiculous to think that new iPods will be released within 1 week of the release of the drives. History already has shown us that Apple didn't release new iPods as soon as the 20 gig drives were released...as I recall, it took another 2-3 months before we saw them.


That's because the 20gig hard drive is bigger than the 5gig hard drive therefore couldn't fit into the same enclosure. So Apple had to redesign a new case. As for the new 40gig hard drive it as big as the old 20 gig, dimension wise, and the new 20gig is as big as the old 5 gig.
:cool:

[BillyShears]

Originally posted by Timothy


Oh, I agree that Apple and Toshiba are in discussion long before a product is released as to what is in the pipeline. My only point is that it is ridiculous to think that new iPods will be released within 1 week of the release of the drives. History already has shown us that Apple didn't release new iPods as soon as the 20 gig drives were released...as I recall, it took another 2-3 months before we saw them.

We just have groups of people here waiting for the immediate release of new iPods. I think it will be a couple of months; that is, unless somebody in the know has some specific information. From what I've seen, this entire thread is built solely on the release of new drives from Toshiba.

All I'm saying is that if you are getting up at 6 am to check the Apple site every day, you may want to relax a bit. :D

Points:

- Low iPod supply, both 5 and 10 gig. (Esp. 5)

- There are updates a plenty around now

- iPod is "due" for an update

- Toshiba drive information. Drives would fit into current casing, I think.


Personally, I'm getting annoyed. I wanted a 5 gig at the start of January, and could not get a hold of one. The stores are just saying they have no back order date.

This "spontaneous" release of the Xserve is going to keep people checking every day, since now it's not only Tuesdays. :P

[ahe]

I live in Spain, and wanted to wait after the holidays to get a 10 GB iPod, so I waited a couple of weeks.
I thought: "Maybe they lower the price, but, what the heck... I've been saving money for a year now and I deserve the thing!"

So I call the Apple Store, which I didn't know was attended from the States. BTW, awful service they have, with an internet-to-phone system that is only half duplex, and we both couldn't talk at the same time. And they tell me the estimated delivery time is 4 to 6 weeks!!! The next day I cancelled my order, and turned to other resellers in Spain. 4 to 6 weeks! That's not even remotely a reasonable time... :mad:
... But what happened when I tried to buy my iPod thru other spanish dealers? No luck. All of them (and I had a look at 5 or 6 of the major ones) have a backorder time of about a month or don't even know the estimated shipping time. And this has been this way for a month now. :confused:

Either Apple has something coming, or they made an afwul mistake with iPod supplies. So my first experience getting an Apple gadget has been really frustrating. I just hope they release the new batch soon, because, come on, it's not normal to have customers wait such a looong time for an item, and keeping that situation for over a month. :)

... I just hope that, if they release it, the shipping gets swifter than this 4 to 6 weeks crippled-turtle-speed.
(Making fists with my fingers now)

Angel.

[smegdude]

roughly how long does it take for a shipment of ipods to get from the factory to the suppliers and the shops? How can it take over a month and a half to get 5gb supplies to the consumer. Why do apple continue to have the note about holiday demand on their website. Its quite obvious that it is bs and they could be loosing customers by delaying the release of updates. Most people who have apple computers or know the quality of the ipod will wait, but there could be many people who look at the waiting time and choose to buy a different player, if apple wants to loose customers then they are going about it in the right way, i have been waiting since november for an ipod update and i'm getting very annoyed.

I seem to remember a way of converting a pc ipod to work on apples. Can anyone point me in that direction? I know where to get a pc 10gb but they don't have any apple ones :(

[KLFloyd]

Originally posted by smegdude
roughly how long does it take for a shipment of ipods to get from the factory to the suppliers and the shops? How can it take over a month and a half to get 5gb supplies to the consumer. Why do apple continue to have the note about holiday demand on their website. Its quite obvious that it is bs and they could be loosing customers by delaying the release of updates. Most people who have apple computers or know the quality of the ipod will wait, but there could be many people who look at the waiting time and choose to buy a different player, if apple wants to loose customers then they are going about it in the right way, i have been waiting since november for an ipod update and i'm getting very annoyed.

I seem to remember a way of converting a pc ipod to work on apples. Can anyone point me in that direction? I know where to get a pc 10gb but they don't have any apple ones :(

I agree with you for the most part but...

Those of us who are always watching Apple for updates and snooping around the rumor sites, taking the smallest rumor and running amuck with it are obviousley loyal Apple customers already. Apple dosn't have to worry about loosing me to the evil empire and I would imagiane that htey don't have to worry about most of the people on this board either. We all complain about not having our updates, but we'll continue to be loyal to the company.

However, I agree with you compleatley to the point that many people who don't know or even care about iPod updates and just want an iPod and want it now are having troulbe getting the product in their hands. Now that is a big problem for Apple.

The demand for the 5GB iPod is probably the greatest of all for the entry level consumer or the person who doesn't have a ton of money to throw into an MP3 player. By keeping the 5GB unavailable Apple is really hurting their sales base. They need to either start putting some 5's back into production or go ahead and drop the prices on the rest of the line. We've got the demand, but there's no supply and that's a horriable position for a company to be in.


On an unrelated subject...wasn't there a rumor about iTunes 4 coming out in April? I think I saw that on one of the rumor sites, maybe this one. Seems to me that would be the perfect opportunity to launch the new iPods with new features. If Apple was really close to an iTunes update they would have updated it with iLife, so we're still probably at least a month or so away.

[cpelton]

Hi,

I have been looking at getting a 10 gig iPod, i went to many of the large stores around my area (mac station, london drugs etc.) Every store was completely sold out, the guy at london drugs checked the database to see if they had any in stock at one of the 50 other locations and they had a total of 8, he said they normally ever see somthing like this if they are changing a product, the product is defective or they are discontinuing the line.

Mac station pretty much told me the same thing, they have been sold out (of all iPods) since before christmas and the order they sent in around then hasn't arrived yet.

They better release these soon beause there are people out there waiting!!

[RedEric]

I had an order from the Apple Store arrive yesterday.

It is an existing model.

As much as I hope for an update soon (so this beauty can go back) I don't think it's going to happen.

:mad:

[sparks9]

Originally posted by RedEric
I had an order from the Apple Store arrive yesterday.

It is an existing model.

As much as I hope for an update soon (so this beauty can go back) I don't think it's going to happen.

:mad:

HAHA that's just because you just bought one! Then you don't want them to release a new one...

WHY don't you think they'll update soon???

[ahe]

What's Apple's policy about replacing a recently bought item with a new version of it?

I mean, if you buy an iPod today, and in a week or so (hehe) Apple releases a new version of it...

1. ... does Apple replace the one you have with the new one?
2. Do you have to pay an additional fee?
3. If that is so, would it apply to every country where Apple sells their products?
4. Is there a time limit to replace the item?

Thanks,

Angel.

[RedEric]

Originally posted by sparks9


HAHA that's just because you just bought one! Then you don't want them to release a new one...

WHY don't you think they'll update soon???

I DO want an update now. The sooner the better because it means I can return this one and get a new one or if it's not soon I will give my 20GB one to my daughter and get the best of the new ones.

I don't think one is coming now because I've received my order. It was out of stock for a long time and now it's in stock indicating that they had supply problems.

The new Toshiba Hard Drives are going to be a little while in getting into the ipod.

If they had the new iPods already then I think they would have pumped those out rather than keep saying the 5GB is OOS due to Holiday demand and preventing people from buying them cos everywhere is OOS.

They are running a promo for Valentines day for iPODs. Big trouble if they bring out new ones just after this promo.

[RedEric]

Originally posted by ahe
What's Apple's policy about replacing a recently bought item with a new version of it?

I mean, if you buy an iPod today, and in a week or so (hehe) Apple releases a new version of it...

1. ... does Apple replace the one you have with the new one?
2. Do you have to pay an additional fee?
3. If that is so, would it apply to every country where Apple sells their products?
4. Is there a time limit to replace the item?

Thanks,

Angel.

As with most things bought on the internet, you have the right to return the product for whatever reason within an agreed timescale. This is due in part to the various Distance Selling Acts that are in force i.e. you get protection for buying something you have been unable to see and therefore do not know if it is fit for the purpose you bought it.

With Apple this is 10 working days from receipt of the goods I believe. With some other retailers it is more www.johnlewis.com (UK Company) is 28 days.

Some Credit Card Companies offer this protection also. I believe that if you pay with a Barclaycard for instance, you get an extra 60 days price promise protection whereby, they will refund the difference if a price drop occurs.

As I am in the UK and you are in Spain then mi amigo, I think you should be covered by the same sort of rules that we are. You lot being civilised since joining the EU and all that.

Best thing is always to check the website or ask the Operator at time of purchase.

Hope this helps and if any of it is incorrect I'm sure someone will tell me.

[cpelton]

all the stores around me have been sold out since before christmas.. maybe you just got one of the last old ones in stock?

[RedEric]

Sorry I should have clarified...

I bought from the UK Apple Store Online as we do not have ant Retail Stores over here.

(yet!)

[james1897]

I've been following these rumors for a couple of weeks as I'm sitting on some cash for a 20GB model. Tired of waiting and anxious for more specific info, I called a local Apple store and asked if they had and 20GB iPods. When he said they "might have one" I pretended that the announcement was public knowledge and said "Is that one of the new ones, or are they still not out?" He got all nervous and stuttered a lot. I backed off and said "OK...So when should I call back?" He said, with a tone that sounded like a wink and a nod, "Tuesday."

I tried the same thing at the local COMPUSA and they confirmed that a 40GB model was coming soon, but they did not know when.

So Tuesday is the day. If you've got time, try the same trick at your local store and see what happens....

[KLFloyd]

Originally posted by james1897
I've been following these rumors for a couple of weeks as I'm sitting on some cash for a 20GB model. Tired of waiting and anxious for more specific info, I called a local Apple store and asked if they had and 20GB iPods. When he said they "might have one" I pretended that the announcement was public knowledge and said "Is that one of the new ones, or are they still not out?" He got all nervous and stuttered a lot. I backed off and said "OK...So when should I call back?" He said, with a tone that sounded like a wink and a nod, "Tuesday."

I tried the same thing at the local COMPUSA and they confirmed that a 40GB model was coming soon, but they did not know when.

So Tuesday is the day. If you've got time, try the same trick at your local store and see what happens....

Aww...you made the poor guy nervous!

Seroiusley though, do the Apple Store employees have any prior knowledge about product releases? I'm sure the higher ups do but not your average Joe Salesman, if they did it would be Impossiable to keep a lid on things. R&D is under strict orders not to inform the sales staff until they have to because the average salesman will make a slipup just like that and tell the world.

[james1897]

In many cases they do know. I know a former owner of an Apple reseller. He had to fire a guy for slipping up -- per Apple. In some cases, they know because they need to. In other cases, they know because their Apple contacts like to gossip. In any case, Cupertino takes secrecy in the channel very, very seriously. Which is why the poor guy was nervous when I confidently addressed the rumor as if I knew something -- he knew I'd taken him someplace he shouldn't go, but he didn't know how to handle it. The whole thing was really awkward...poor guy. ;-)

[spimp31]

I tried the aforementioned strategy with both IL apple stores. Either they are well trained or had no idea what I was talking about, because both seemed baffled at the idea of a thinner 20 GB model being available. "Umm... this is the same 20 GB model we've had since I've worked here".

I'd like to believe the salesperson James had tipped him off, but maybe he was reading a little too much into it??? What would account for one store knowing about a Tuesday release, and another store having no idea?

[TheMightyG]

Originally posted by smegdude
I seem to remember a way of converting a pc ipod to work on apples. Can anyone point me in that direction? I know where to get a pc 10gb but they don't have any apple ones :(

Try this (http://www.xsorbit1.com/users/dennx/index.cgi?board=macgeneral&action=display&num=1042539303)

[james1897]

>>I'd like to believe the salesperson James had tipped him off, but maybe he was reading a little too much into it??? What would account for one store knowing about a Tuesday release, and another store having no idea?<<

I've been known to speculate, but I read people well. I stand by my take.

As far as why one would know more than the other: I may have been speaking with a manager or something... who knows.

I'll tell you this: I've got way too much time on my hands. ;-) Thanks for the attempt spimp.

Who's next? Got any New York posters?

[cpelton]

i hope they are released tuesday, im dying to get mine!

[Brain]

Me too!:)

[vanillamike]

me three!!

[zach]

does anyone really want a 40 gig ipod? im sure you could find uses for it but as of yet i have not met anyone who needs that much space.

[zach]

bluetooth support, am/fm, and mic in would be nice though :->

[KLFloyd]

Originally posted by zap23
does anyone really want a 40 gig ipod? im sure you could find uses for it but as of yet i have not met anyone who needs that much space.

Right now I only have about 3GB of Music in iTunes but if the price was right, can see buying a 40 gigger for backup of my Hard Drive.

Though, I'd have to be able to load Jaguar on it and use the iPod as a bootable drive. Currentley you can only load 10.1.3 on the iPod, won't support anything higher. Take my iPod and boot up in Target disk mode from another mac.

I'm debating right now between the 10 and the 20, will wait and see what happens if/when the new models come out.

[Timothy]

I just called my two local seattle mac shops and they both have 5 gig ipods in stock, and 1 had 10 gigs in stock, while the other said they have some 10 gigs on order.

I also note that Apple's web site lists 1-2 day shipping for 10 gig iPods.

[mcrain]

Originally posted by Timothy
I just called my two TIMMY shops and they both have 5 gig TIMMYS in stock, and 1 had 10 gigs in stock, while TIMMY said they have some TIMMYS on order.

I also note that TIMMY'S web site lists 1-2 day shipping for 10 gig TIMMYS.

[sparks9]

???

[TheMightyG]

Slightly off topic, but does anybody know if you can partition an iPod ie create a bootable HD on one partition, and then use the remainder for its original function? That might give people a reason to go for a larger iPod....

[vanillamike]

must be and inside joke, all those timmys.

:confused:

[mcrain]

Originally posted by vanillamike
must be and inside joke, all those timmys.

:confused:

South Park --- Timmy!!!

[KLFloyd]

For those of you out there who are just looking to buy a cheep iPod and don't care about updates, the Apple Store is currentley offering refurbished 5GB iPods for $199 this is by far the cheepest I've ever seen them.

According to Apple's website it's the origional touch scroll wheel and includes the "new ear bud headphones" (but doesn't say anything about a remote.)

Thought this was interesting, anyone wanna read anything into this?

[KLFloyd]

Originally posted by TheMightyG
Slightly off topic, but does anybody know if you can partition an iPod ie create a bootable HD on one partition, and then use the remainder for its original function? That might give people a reason to go for a larger iPod....

Thank you for putting us back on some topic related to the iPod!

To answer your question, to the best of my understanding the iPod by nature is partitioned. Your music and data is stored seperatley on the iPod.

You can mount your iPod on the desktop just like it is any other external drive, but as I said in my previous post currentley the iPod will only boot up until OS 10.1.3. Also, when using them as a bootable drive and trying to work off of them for any extended period of time the drive tends to get very warm and can overheat. Apple's got more info on their site.

[strep61]

Originally posted by KLFloyd
For those of you out there who are just looking to buy a cheep iPod and don't care about updates, the Apple Store is currentley offering refurbished 5GB iPods for $199 this is by far the cheepest I've ever seen them.

According to Apple's website it's the origional touch scroll wheel and includes the "new ear bud headphones" (but doesn't say anything about a remote.)

Thought this was interesting, anyone wanna read anything into this?

Where did you find this? I looked on the apple site but no luck :(

Do you have a link?

Thanks!

[GiantXX5]

:D After over a month of waiting, I gave in and I got a new 10GB iPod. I'm loading my songs right now. The new 10GB is impressive because of its slimness. I can't wait to get back to life with an iPod. Its gonna be great. Oh yeah and I bought it at Best Buy and then had a healthy stock supply. So I got mine but I still hope the come out with new ones. Why? Beacuse I can return this thing no questions asked for the next thirty days. And then get the new one or the cheaper price. I hope it works just they say and the policy reads. So the day they come out I'm returning this baby or gettin some money back. LOL Watch it will probally be only a few days. So now I feel so much better havin my iPod. Finally I'll get some time away from these rumor pages........maybe. :D To all those who can't wait any longer but want some insurance this could be a good way to go for you too.

[KLFloyd]

Originally posted by strep61


Where did you find this? I looked on the apple site but no luck :(

Do you have a link?

Thanks!

Here's the link: Apple Store (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/263/wo/6V6BeUrBoP8d3kgFUob1ryT67u1/1.7.0.3.27.1) it's under the "special deals" section pretty far down the page. It woudl be easy to miss...


As for the Best Buy exchange policy question...my dad has taken advantage of this SEVERAL times (I'm surprised they don't have his photo taped to the register by now.) and as long as you have the box and all the packaging and the iPod is in good condition you're fine. Just double cheeck to see if in your case there is any restocking fee. I'm not sure if they consider the iPod computer equipment or audio equipment, the policy differes depending on what category the product is in.

[james1897]

I'm with Katie-- 40 GB would make a great back up tool. Right now I backup to a USB drive, and the time involved means that I do it much less often than I should.

Still, it took me some time to come up with that as a justification.... even when I capture my whole CD collection I'll be far short of 40GB. A nice color screen for watching videos would be sweet... but that's just crazy talk, eh? ;-)

-James

[spimp31]

Believe it or not there are many of us who couldn't fit our entire CD collection onto even a 40 GB iPod. I imagine most people around here don't trade live music, but I own maybe 300 3 disc shows, maybe more, not to mention another 250 albums, and another 100 or so official live releases. My collection is always growing, as just today I added another 9 discs to it. If I encoded at 192 kbps or higher I'd say that I'm looking at about 50-60 GB, although it's hard to estimate that. Certainly if you just take a look at the number of CD's I have, the 40 GB should hold 800 cd's (each cd with about 10 songs), while I have cd's full to the brim of 80 minutes and about 1250 cd's. That'd be about 1.5x the capacity of a 40 GB iPod.

Do I or does anyone else really need that much disk space for music? Probably not. The only thing I would say about that is that if I'm on the road for a significant part of the summer, it would be nice to have my entire catalog with me all times, use it in my car, and not ever worry about my cd's being stolen. I would also probably use it to store data as well, just general stuff I don't want on my computer, need to carry with me, etc...

I think it'd surprise you how much you could get out of a 40 GB iPod. If you have the space, sooner or later you'll fill it up.

[KLFloyd]

Ah....and it seems like only yesterday when we NEVER thought we could fill up more than 1GB. That WAS HUGE.

Heck, I was so excited when I got my first Mac with an internal Hard Drive, no more switching out 800k flopies.

With every computer I buy I say to myself, "I'll get the smaller hard drive and save some bucks, after all I'll NEVER fill up 20GB" He he he...

[sparks9]

It's not a matter if people need 40 gigs of space for their music, what is important is which HDs are available for Apple. HDs get bigger all the time and the companies have to keep up or they'll loose to the competition. When Toshiba releases new HDs the 40 gig will probably take the old 20 gig's place in the line, and you'll get twice the space for the same price. I've also read that they will not produce the 5 gig anymore, so it's neccesary to use the larger HDs.

You can compare this to HDs in computers. I have a 15 gig in my pc I bought 2-3 years ago, and do I really NEED more space? Not really...
Still they make the HDs bigger and bigger and today the standard is 80 gig or something like that. In a year it will probably be 200-300 gig, and we'll buy it anyways, not because we NEED it, but because it is the standard size and smaller drives are not longer available.

[mattbills]

http://reviews.cnet.com/electronics/0-3219397-8-20851455-1.html?tag=st.re.9870989.fs.3219397-8-20851455-1
http://reviews.cnet.com/electronics/0-3219397-8-20851455-1.html?tag=st.re.9870989.fs.3219397-8-20851455-1
http://reviews.cnet.com/electronics/0-3219397-8-20851455-1.html?tag=st.re.9870989.fs.3219397-8-20851455-1

[i_am_a_cow]

hmmmmmm . . . I'd like to say that there are ALOT of people that need more than 40 gigs (or even 80). If you make home videos or do any audio recording, that space will get chomped up within 2 or 3 years. My g4 had 30 gigs and i thought that was enough, but i still had problems after a little while. just two 10 minute long imovies and a couple hours of raw audio took up that space and I had to buy an 80 gig HD, which i have almost filled after a year.

fm ;)

[jccbin]

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[sparks9]

Feb 17-18:
Ipods!?! :D

[vanillamike]

I wish someone had an "insider" that could tell us whether the new iPods are getting done on Tuesday. This is getting a little ridiculous, if it wasn't for rumors I would have a 20GB, now I am a slave to the rumor boards :D

Mike

P.S. Thanks to whomever it was who pointed out my signature was wrong :)

[james330i]

same here.

I was one click from checking out on Amazon for a 10GB last week, then it hit me...maybe I need to check out the next models.

And for the last week, I've been lurking here. All I gotta say is, there better be a damn announcement tomorrow !!! :)

I may just go ahead and buy the current ones from Amazon.com, but because I have a boatload of gift certificates and coupons, it may be a hassle to return and trade up.

BTW, there's a person on Amazon's marketplace selling a brand new 20GB IPOD for $349, while all the others are selling at full price.

Hmm..maybe this guy knows something we don't or it's stolen.

[cpelton]

welp tomorrows the day we'll find out!

*fingers crossed*:D

[zach]

i will be majorly dissapointed if the are no product announcemts tommorow, and lets not have a repeat of last week: (yay! apple store down! New ipods! Ohhhh.... xServe RAID.....)

[RedEric]

C'mon Arn, isn't it time you chipped in with info on whether we'll get them or not? You've been pretty adamant in previous weeks that we were'nt getting them. Any more news for us now??????:D

[melchior]

just exactly which apple store is down? they all seem to be up for me..

[ahe]

What was the time when Apple put the last product updates in the homepage? I mean, 8 AM or 9 AM, Cupertino time? ;)

It's 13:00 here in Spain, so I believe it must be... 5 or 6 AM in the west coast of the US. God, I am tired of waiting for an update. Let's hope it is made today...

*making fists with fingers, toes, ears, whatever* :rolleyes:

[RedEric]

Usually about 1 pm GMT

[ahe]

Thanks, RedEric, that was lightning-fast. So I still have an hour left of despair & uncertainty.
(electronic gadget anxiety increasing)

[RedEric]

The anticiaption is usually like foreplay!

We have been teased an tantalised for weeks now and when it happens there will be a momentary release of endorphines, we'll lie back satisfied and then went a cigarette.

Will it have been worth the foreplay? Dunno but it's always fun trying!!
:D :D :D

[melchior]

ahe, i wouldn't be so hopeful. it seems to vary quite a bit....

you can go back and check each time if you want by looking at the thread's. http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=4

i, personally would be, based on my memory/guestimation, pegging the time at around 3pm GMT or 4pm GMT

[ahe]

Any time would be fine for me, if they actually release them. What I also hope is that they start selling them inmediately, instead of delaying the shipping time a month or two, as with the XServe.

Nice comparison, that foreplay thing btw :D

[RedEric]

Originally posted by melchior
ahe, i wouldn't be so hopeful. it seems to vary quite a bit....

you can go back and check each time if you want by looking at the thread's. http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=4

i, personally would be, based on my memory/guestimation, pegging the time at around 3pm GMT or 4pm GMT

The recent announcements have been made around lunchtime here in the UK. The servers have tended to go down about 5 AM Cupertino time and come back about 6AM. Or about 8 and back 9 New York time. Or about 1 and back 2 UK.

[melchior]

6am cupertino time? i don't think so.... i could be wrong of course. on the other hand, i hope you are right =)

[nodmonkey]

i feel it is too late for an update this week, now. someone tell me i am wrong!

bah!

[TheT]

...too late for today, yeah. But hey, the week's not over yet :) I bet Apple is just playing with us.
But damn, I sold my 5GB iPod one week ago, and I'm almost dying without one right now...

[ahe]

Big S I G H ... :(


If they don't do it tomorrow, I don't see any chance of having the update this week. Damn, these months of wait are getting to my nerves...

[DavPeanut]

I think that something will come at about 1:00 PM EST

[vanillamike]

DavPeanut do you know something we don't know? If I recall correctly the last bunch of updates have all come at about 9am EST. I sure hope you are right though, another week of waiting is gonna drive me to drink.

Mike

[DavPeanut]

Sometimes they have done weird things, especially if thy have some release ceremony. With the MacWorlds, they never have anything up until after the keynotes.

[Anne]

Well, then I'll put my bid in on 1:37pm eastern time!

:rolleyes:

[KLFloyd]

Originally posted by DavPeanut
Sometimes they have done weird things, especially if thy have some release ceremony. With the MacWorlds, they never have anything up until after the keynotes.

Didn't apple do some kind of release ceremony with the first iPod? Any idea when they did that? Though I can't imagiane they would do anything fancy for just minor upgrades.

I really do think we've lost our window for the week, but hey I'll keep the hope alive with all of you!

[DavPeanut]

Originally posted by KLFloyd
Didn't apple do some kind of release ceremony with the first iPod? Any idea when they did that? Though I can't imagiane they would do anything fancy for just minor upgrades.

I really do think we've lost our window for the week, but hey I'll keep the hope alive with all of you!
If its a new 15inch PB, it could be some ceremony holding it up. Also, this week monday was a holdiday and they have been realeasing things on the second work day lately, it could be realeased tomorrow.

[Anne]

Originally posted by DavPeanut
Also, this week monday was a holdiday and they have been realeasing things on the second work day lately, it could be realeased tomorrow.


oooh, now that's the kind of thinking I like!!!

I also wonder if the weather played any part in it. If they hoped to announce it and have it available in stores on the same day (yes I know a longshot) maybe they decided to wait until the East coast was plowed out from under its many feet of snow, so that deliveries to stores could be made.

[sparks9]

Originally posted by DavPeanut
Also, this week monday was a holdiday and they have been realeasing things on the second work day lately, it could be realeased tomorrow.


Ahhh, of course :D
So new iPods tomorrow that is..!!

[sparks9]

Originally posted by Anne
oooh, now that's the kind of thinking I like!!!

I also wonder if the weather played any part in it. If they hoped to announce it and have it available in stores on the same day (yes I know a longshot) maybe they decided to wait until the East coast was plowed out from under its many feet of snow, so that deliveries to stores could be made.

Damn snow!!! :mad:

[Anne]

Originally posted by sparks9
Damn snow!!! :mad:

oh don't go blaming it on the snow quite yet! I was just pulling speculation out of my butt, as much as the next guy. ;)

[zach]

it was earlier suggested that there might be a ceremony holding up the announcement. Well, how bout a ceremoney for the new iNewton? Haha, im pulling this out of my butt too, but wouldn't it be great?

[sparks9]

Originally posted by zap23
it was earlier suggested that there might be a ceremony holding up the announcement. Well, how bout a ceremoney for the new iNewton? Haha, im pulling this out of my butt too, but wouldn't it be great?

It would probably be great, but all I want is a cheaper iPod. :D

[Savona]

I cant stand it anymore!!!! I am in lust with the iPod. I have been since I first laid eyes on it. And now, like a dog with a piece of bacon dangled in front of it who runs and jumps but no matter what he does the bacon doesn't get any closer, I am teased beyond belief. I have had many a dream about this update (minor or major).

I hope I don't sound crazy! I probably am! I must have an iPod. This will be my first apple product. First of a long line. I figure, right now I can afford an iPod and next I'll buy a powerbook. I like to save and save so I can get the good stuff.

Do you guys really believe there is a chance for tomorrow (Wednesday)?

Oh, and when I do buy mine should I get the apple or the pc version? I have a PC now but soon will UPGRADE to the Mac. Is it better to get the Mac version and use 3rd party software?

Thanks
Will:confused:

[ahe]

I can surely understand you...

... I wanted an iPod since I saw a review of the first version on a magazine. The last year I decided to save for one, and buy it after Xmas. My gf's birthday is in middle January, another friend's birthday is a couple of weeks later, not to mention the usual epiphany gifts here in Spain, so I guessed I would be ready to buy the iPod (my 1st apple gadget, too) right after the middle of January. And they tell me it will take 4 to 6 weeks to ship. That sounded completely crazy to me, so I withdrew the order, and here I am, after 4 months of anticipation, waiting for an update. And if it ever happens, what will be the shipping time??
Oh god...

About buying an Apple or Windows iPod, either of them will be fine for you. If you buy an Apple iPod, you can use XPlay or EphPod to transfer songs to the player, OR, you can reformat its hard drive to FAT32 so you can access it directly with Windows.
Good luck,

Angel.

[cpelton]

Originally posted by Savona
I have a PC now but soon will UPGRADE to the Mac. Is it better to get the Mac version and use 3rd party software?

Thanks
Will:confused:

No, the PC version works on macs as well be cause macs can read both types of formatting

Maybe the new iPod will have dual support? no need to run two different products then..


I WANT MY IPOD!!!!!! :mad:

[Nitro230ft]

Savona, you and I should be joined at the hip! My iPod was my first Apple product and I am constantly saving up for a new Apple product! But get this, I HAD an iPod but I returned it because it had a small scratch on the face. I was taking advantage of Apple's warrenty but it came right back and bite me in the ass. The iPod which I returned was one of the last 5gb iPods! I was told, "We'll get a new shippment in a week..." Not only was that horse, but it's the same excuse i've heard for the last 6 weeks! All I want is an iPod for $299! That's all I want! Wednesday, Thursay. Now! PLEASE!

[chewbaccapits]

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Hmmm..Is it me or is it that ROUGHLY every 13 days ( the last 4 updates!) there is some kind of update...My prediction Monday the 24th.....(For at least another chance for another iPod update)

[melchior]

just because i want to add fuel to the fire....

yesterday the apple store changed it's shipping times from 1-2 days to 1-3 days.

could this mean a friday release?

[pauld]

I am so pissed off right now from waiting so much that I'm gonna buy one of these (http://www.edigital-store.com/odyssey1000.html).

Come on, its got a "Holographic color-changing logo" !

[melchior]

pauld, come on, it weighs 8.2 oz.! it's huge. a brick! i'd feel like i'm working out everytime i wanted to check the song!

and as for the holographic color changing logo, my phone has one and it is one of the coolest features =) probably the best thing about that POS

[Savona]

There is only one iPod. It's still the best damn MP3 player out there, even without the update.

But every morning when I wake up the first think I do is check the apple splash page. I can't take this dissapointment any longer!

What the hell is going on apple?:mad:

errrrrr!

If you aren't going to update it, at least let us buy the current ones.

[DavPeanut]

I want the new iPod realeased.

[Brain]

the wait is just killing me! when will they arrive?

[Timothy]

Originally posted by Savona
If you aren't going to update it, at least let us buy the current ones. [/B]

Hmmm...as far as I can tell, you can still buy the 10 and 20 gig on the Apple site, as well as at multiple retail outlets around the world. Apple is also selling refurbished 5 gig iPods.

I think everyone here needs to relax a bit. Unless somebody has some hard informaiton, which I haven't seen yet, the "iminent" release of new iPods may just be wishful thinking.

[RobTheGob]

Originally posted by melchior
pauld, come on, it weighs 8.2 oz.! it's huge. a brick! i'd feel like i'm working out everytime i wanted to check the song!


I'm not sure if you are joking or not... But the 20GB iPod weighs a miniscule 7.2 oz... If the extra ounce is causing you to strain, then perhaps the 10GB iPod might be a better choice...

[iAlan]

If everyone keeps saying "just around the corner" everyday, it will eventually come true!!

Sure, we would all love a new iPod, or lower prices, but how many people here would actually buy one? Those with an iPod now, will you trade it in for a new model? I wish I could on my original issue 5 model. I got it the first day it was available in Japan (gave my Rio player to a friend). 5 is big enough for me, I dont need that many songs, but boy, get the prices down more and I will happily upgrade.

Anyway , the new iPods are "just around the corner"

[sparks9]

Originally posted by iAlan
If everyone keeps saying "just around the corner" everyday, it will eventually come true!!

Sure, we would all love a new iPod, or lower prices, but how many people here would actually buy one? Those with an iPod now, will you trade it in for a new model? I wish I could on my original issue 5 model. I got it the first day it was available in Japan (gave my Rio player to a friend). 5 is big enough for me, I dont need that many songs, but boy, get the prices down more and I will happily upgrade.

Anyway , the new iPods are "just around the corner"

I think a lot of people are waiting for the new iPods and WILL buy one when they are released.
It has been 7 months now since the last update, so the new ones are comming soon, that's 100% certain, it could be any (tues-) day now.

BTW thinksecret.com just had a rumour about new iPods soon. And I think that they have a very good reputation.

[RobTheGob]

I'm hoping that new iPods will show up soon. I am very concerned about the battery issues, though. I'd like it if they'd acknowledge the issues, but I've been dealing with Apple long enough to realize that this isn't the way they do business...

I had come close to making a deal on a nearly new (2 months old) 20 GB iPod. It's been very well kept and the total price would be $600 CAD ($395 US) including shipping.

I got scared off because of the new models coming and the battery issues on the exsiting models... I'll just keep using my RioVolt for the time being. To be honest, I couldn't be happier with it. I'd just really like to have all of my music with me...

[Timothy]

For what it's worth...I've never had any battery issues with my 20 gig iPod.

[Freakk123]

until the new iPods come out. I was at the apple store in westchester on sunday, and almost bought one, when I thought better of it. I will certainly buy one when the update comes out, and I may even go for the 40 GB. I don't have that much music, but I'll be able to transfer files very easily, and since my parents are divorced, and I switch between houses every sunday, it would be incredibly convinient. I CAN'T WAIT!!!

[sparks9]

I guess the next "release-date" is tuesday feb 25?!
Apple only updates on tuesdays right? It must be their favourite day of the week...

[Bateman]

Last Monday they released the Xserve...


That's just one week out of the 5 or so they have been releasing products...

I always wake up on tuesdays with butterflies in my stomach now....

[smegdude]

well i've waited long enough, i get my 20gb on saturday. I was fed up of waiting and now i'm gonna get my ipod.

one thing i found that was quite amazing is that the price of an ipod here in the uk is quite a bit more than one in the US. For example a 10gb here is £329 at current exchange rates that is $526! for $500 you get a 20gb ipod. I find that quite surprising. I got my friend to buy me a 20gb in the US and send it over to me and its costing me £315. Does anyone know why this is happening?

[ahe]

What a shame, Apple's foreign prices... If you have a look at all the european Apple stores online, prices (for the iPods) are about 100 US dollars more expensive than in the US. Now don't tell me it's because of taxes and transportation. It's a plain 100 dollars addition to the US prices and that's all. And with the current Euro-Dollar conversion (around 1.09 to 1), they are making even more money from sales in Europe... Just have a look at the prices:

US Apple Store:
iPod 5 GB - $ 299
iPod 10 GB - $399
iPod 20 GB - $499

Spain Apple Store:
iPod 5 GB - €399
iPod 10 GB - €499
iPod 20 GB - €649!!!

Those price differences would be somewhat reasonable in a product like the PowerBook. But with the iPod, us europeans have to pay 33% more for a 5 GB iPod, 25% more for a 10 GB, and 30% more for a 20 GB. That is, to put it simple, a plain theft. I don't really believe that is a real price, including export taxes, shipping, etc...
... Anyway, that won't keep me from getting myself an iPod as soon as the new ones come out.

Happy waiting, friends...

[sparks9]

So are you guys in the USA paying more than say 299$ for a 5 gig iPod? Do you have to pay tax of the 299 or is it including taxes and stuff?
I know that the European prices include tax and shipping...

[Savona]

Most websites that you order from only charge you tax on top of a set price if the warehouse that they ship from is the same state in which you live. In the US sales tax is different in every city of every state. So if I live in new york city and I order a product shipping from LA I will not be charged tax. However: the US price does not include shipping.

Even so, you guys in Europe are getting ripped off.

Sypathy from the States.:(

[Brain]

when I eventually get my ipod, I have a question....

Ive been ripping all my cds into itunes & I was curious, do I need to make playlists for each cd, or will the ipod be able to sort by album, artist, etc like itunes?

thanks in advance!

[d46799]

I, too, anxiously await the release of new iPods...its killin' me to check apple.com several times a day. ****To help me out here...is there a specific time of the day when they update if they're going to update???****

Ill buy a 40GB ipod the very minute it comes out if I can. I'm a pro photographer and could use it to 1. back up pics right after a photoshoot in anticipation of the day when my PBG4 falls on some hard warehouse floor at the end of the day, 2. entertain clients (and me) on photoshoots, and 3. keep me entertained when I'm working on the pictures in the studio. It'll be my favorite 'business expense' of the decade. I promise the tax man I'll never, ever, ever use it on my own personal time when I'm not working ;)

PLEEEEEEASE HURRRRRRRY, APPLE!!!

[chewbaccapits]

Originally posted by d46799


Ill buy a 40GB ipod the very minute it comes out if I can.

Can we hold you to this?

[ahe]

I also want one badly... and how!
Anyway, I am waiting until the 9th or 10th of March, the date of expiration of a discount coupon Apple sent me via email. It's 25 Euros, so I wouldn't want to miss it ;) :D

... Let's just hope Apple releases the iPods well before then, so the saving will be greater, and that would kind of make me forget the higher prices in Europe. Also, that may allow me to get a 20 GB iPod, which just makes me drool... :p

:rolleyes: *making fists with my fingers*

[melchior]

been waiting since before christmas with anticipation... i will purchase as soon as humanly possible after a release!

[DavPeanut]

I think that the new ones will come out next week. Apple has to have a little bit of time to work with the new, larger drives before it can put them into the iPods.

[sparks9]

Originally posted by ahe
I also want one badly... and how!
Anyway, I am waiting until the 9th or 10th of March, the date of expiration of a discount coupon Apple sent me via email. It's 25 Euros, so I wouldn't want to miss it ;) :D

... Let's just hope Apple releases the iPods well before then, so the saving will be greater, and that would kind of make me forget the higher prices in Europe. Also, that may allow me to get a 20 GB iPod, which just makes me drool... :p

:rolleyes: *making fists with my fingers*

How do I get one of these discount coupons?? I want one... :)

[ahe]

Hehe... I just ordered a 10 GB iPod by phone (Spanish Apple store). The next day I decided to cancel the order to try and search other sources in Spain (4 to 6 weeks for delivery they told me!!!), and a few weeks later, I received this coupon e-mail from them... nice :)

[vanillamike]

I'm not sure why but I got a coupon for $50 off $499 Canadian at the Apple store. It says to celebrate it's third aniversary. Has the apple store only been up and running for three years(maybe just the Canadina branch)?

I purchased an eMac this past September through the Apple store, maybe that is why I was put on the list to get a coupon, who knows?

The coupon I recieved doesn't expire until March 29, 2003 so I sure hope that doesn't mean that the new iPod won't be out until this thing expires.

Mike