Annoyed by Grammar Errors

[topicolo]

Ok, I'm not trying to sound condescending, but am I the only one that gets really annoyed whenever I see a really blatant grammar error?

I just loaded up the MacRumors.com frontpage and what do I see?

Two new threads, by two different people, BOTH with the same basic error:

[janey]

does anyone even care? everyone makes mistakes...it's not like you're writing an english essay that'll make or break you.

[Mr. Anderson]

I've been known to type a few mistakes - our - are, there - their, etc. Its no big deal though, most of the time the posts are more free association and things are flowing, incorrect words don't get in the way of understanding.

So I wouldn't worry about it too much, there's not much you'll be able to do about it anyway.

D

[bombensington]

Originally posted by topicolo
Ok, I'm not trying to sound condescending, but am I the only one that gets really annoyed whenever I see a really blatant grammar error?

ohhhh i totally hear you on this one.

this is a big pet peeve of mine as well...

although i have to say that the most annoying for me is the apostrophe overuse these days. does every word ending in "s" need an apostrophe?

for instance, i see a sign that says "hundred's to choose from" - what?!? no!

[rainman::|:|]

yeah, it's rather annoying. their-there-they're and too-two-to are things you learn in 3rd grade, for the love of god. i don't care about the really nitpicky stuff, but it *is* the english language...

pnw

[Freg3000]

I don't really mind, but eventually people are just going to think that "there" and "their" can be used interchangeably. I don't want English to become even more corrupted. People already speak it poorly enough, spelling simple words shouldn't become another problem.

Just another downside to the glorious Internet . . . :(

[Nipsy]

I am a very nitpicky and anal person, and I am annoyed by errors.

However, I often make them.

I just wish more people had the self-respect to edit erroneous posts when THEY notice THEIR own errors.

[IJ Reilly]

Two posters in a row complaining about poor grammar can't seem to punctuate. Now, that's kind of funny, in an ironic sort of way.

[kettle]

I get a little miffed when people forget to use "U" and put "Z" in when there should be an "S", as in "favourite" and "realise".

I suppose it's O.K. if you can only speak american.

he he

just kidding.:p

[rainman::|:|]

i also get pissed about people that speak in shorthand... i think it's a rule now on these boards that you have to speak english, not slang... thank god for that... abbreviations are good for text messaging services but not when you're 2 damn lazy 2 do it urself.

:)
pnw

[MrMacMan]

Oh no people uses
There Instead of Their!

Oh no. Inless you have real problems I wouldn't get all mad about grammar errors.

It happens, too bad.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by paulwhannel (in his sig!)
Livin' on the edge of Z
That should be "living" then going by your previous post.
OMG! I can't bleave peps r gettin' so funny 'bout dis :p :D :rolleyes: :eek:

[janey]

Originally posted by edesignuk (in his sig!)
.Mac Photo Gallerys Blog
I think you made a grammatical mistake as well.

[drastik]

I don't care about the grammer mistakes. I am as bed as anyone here, and I've edited copy for a living.

[idkew]

well, the way i see it, there are some obvious errors such as the usage of thier and there which should not happen. incorrect usage makes you sound very unitelligent. but, there are also more obscure errors which are acceptable. obvious typos instead of ignorance.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by übergeek

I think you made a grammatical mistake as well.
Oh no! Smacked wrist for me! :p

Anyway, as you can see they are two separate links, and are not supposed to be read together ;)

[monkeydo_jb]

I think a more fitting title for this thread would have been:

"Annoyed by Grammatical Errors"


Perhaps I'm mistaken.


-jeff

p.s. Don't make me break out my pigeon!

[Sun Baked]

Give me a break, I'm a product of the public educational system in America and I take great pride in being average. ;)

I rarely spell check my replies, and it shows. :p

But the times I do spell check, I just use MS spell check programs (and we all know how those work). :rolleyes:

[vniow]

Me say, that grammar mistakes are okay, i guess just long as they spel corecttly,

[scem0]

Eye dunt makke two miny gramer mistacks, exsept fer tha ocasianol tpyo or a coma or somethun.

[janey]

Originally posted by edesignuk

Oh no! Smacked wrist for me! :p

Anyway, as you can see they are two separate links, and are not supposed to be read together ;)
I know...it just looks like one long thing though ;)
however, gallerys is still wrong. Spelling mistake.

[crazytom]

from idkew:

well, the way i see it, there are some obvious errors such as the usage of thier and there which should not happen. incorrect usage makes you sound very unitelligent. but, there are also more obscure errors which are acceptable. obvious typos instead of ignorance.

I hate when the shift key is broken, I ALSO HATE WHEN IT GETS STUCK!

:D

[saint]

It does annoy me, but only for words like their/there/they're; and your/you're, but what is even more annoying is when people say "I" when they should say "me". Example:
"That belongs to my wife and I."
- totally annoying.

People try to sound smart by saying "I" but it is the wrong word to use.

The apostrophe errors are also annoying, but ordinary punctuation errors don't worry me at all.

[Mr. Anderson]

You all are taking this way to seriously. There are quite a few people here who don't have english as a first language and two forms of english as well. It doesn't detract from the content, so why get your panties all in a bunch?

D

[iGav]

Can't say it bothers me... but then again I'm not anal..... :p :p :p

[kettle]

Originally posted by dukestreet
You all are taking this way to seriously. There are quite a few people here who don't have english as a first language and two forms of english as well. It doesn't detract from the content, so why get your panties all in a bunch?

D

Where did you read/see us getting serious about this? Also when you say "all in a bunch" do you mean a pile of ladies underwear in the same collective location? or are you suggesting that we should try wearing thongs to minimise discomfort and prevent the more prominent effects of VPL.

[IJ Reilly]

Originally posted by dukestreet
You all are taking this way to seriously. There are quite a few people here who don't have english as a first language and two forms of english as well. It doesn't detract from the content, so why get your panties all in a bunch?

Funny you should mention that, because from my experience many of the non-native English speakers posting here and elsewhere are more grammatical in their writing then people educated in the U.S., maybe because they learned their English in a classroom instead of "on the street" (or worse yet, from the TV).

If some obvious non-native speaker is struggling with the English language (which is, after all, one of the toughest to learn), I give them a lot of credit for trying and never nitpick usage, spelling or grammar. But when an American native English speaker consistently can't seem to distinguish between "their" and "there," or can't take the trouble to form complete sentences, capitalize appropriately or punctuate -- well, that's kind of embarrassing to me as an American. It certainly doesn't reflect well on our educational system.

[Wes]

I don't mind if somebody has incorrect grammar. I can understand a person new to the language having difficulties; however, if I see someone who is a native speaker mixing up things you learn when you are ten, then I take their comment with a grain of salt.

[kettle]

Originally posted by W-_-W
I don't mind if somebody has incorrect grammar. I can understand a person new to the language having difficulties; however, if I see someone who is a native speaker mixing up things you learn when you are ten, then I take their comment with a grain of salt.

That's worse than getting annoyed. Not all errors are due to ignorance. Presumably you would prefer if a person was to use grammar incorrectly than if somebody has incorrect grammar. I quote, " I don't mind if somebody has incorrect grammar.". It all depends on how far along the split hair you would like to travel, how much salt you have and exactly what you have learned by the age of ten.

[MacFan25]

As long as I can tell what the person is trying to say, I don't really care if there are grammar or spelling mistakes.

[bousozoku]

Originally posted by topicolo
Ok, I'm not trying to sound condescending, but am I the only one that gets really annoyed whenever I see a really blatant grammar error?

I just loaded up the MacRumors.com frontpage and what do I see?

Two new threads, by two different people, BOTH with the same basic error:

Is this a once a year thing now, or maybe, it's every nine months?

Yes, there are many people who don't know how to speak or write well. It's almost always those who have lived in a country their whole life.

American English is particularly prone to mistakes, since it's such a young language. It's good for me, too, as it gives me something to fix. :D

[topicolo]

Whoa, by the number of posts in this thread, it's pretty obvious that either everyone has some small pet peeve about spelling and GRAMMATICAL errors, or they're really tired of all of the left wing/right wing political flame wars. :)

Despite all of the really horrible posts out there (of the stuff is totally incoherent), I've learned that overlooking a lot of the problems helps me keep my sanity a little longer. :D

[mischief]

Originally posted by MacFan25
As long as I can tell what the person is trying to say, I don't really care if there are grammar or spelling mistakes.

Bingo. Most of my errors are due to trying to get it all down quickly. When I'm working from conversational/ flow-of-thought english my overall grammar slips a bit. If I was actually thinking in more literary terms my writing would be a bit more British.

Personally I think that it's perfectly OK to be a little off now and again and use dialectics to make points here and there as long as the thrust is clear.:cool:

[Macette]

Hey, if you want to see some of the best examples of this grammar/spelling issue, you should check out some of Sabenth's posts.... Sorry Sabenth, I don't mean to pick on you, but you're sometimes almost unintelligible... it must be because you're from Melbourne. Teehee.

[kettle]

female mac user or a small 3d mock up?

Just wondering without assuming.

[Macette]

female mac user. i think you're the first to actually figure it out.

[MacQuest]

Originally posted by Nipsy
I am a very nitpicky and anal person, and I am annoyed by errors.

However, I often make them.

I just wish more people had the self-respect to edit erroneous posts when THEY notice THEIR own errors.

My thoughts exactly.

I'm always going back in to edit my posts because I suck big time at typing.

Yes, I'm anal and I suck...but not in the sense that I will post in here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=19829

* runs out of the room to take cover from the flaming flamers *:eek: :D

[mymemory]

No wonder my grammar is so bad!:mad: there are people here that write worst than I do and I thought they were writting the thing right!:(

[Vlade]

I type as fast as I can in warcraft 3 games and on forums, because it doesnt matter whether I mispell misspell or forget the ' in doesn't, or whether I say look over there or look over their. Now if im typing a school paper thats a different story.

[rice_web]

I don't know about the whole thing. I mean, let's look at it for a second:

"Power Books And There Life Spans"

Maybe the author meant, "PowerBooks! Oh, and over there life spans!!" Perhaps the author was only excited that life spans just happened to be next to a stack of PowerBooks.

"Apple And Advertising There Products"

Again, it's probably just a "Where Wolf? There Wolf." incident. I'm presuming that the author intended, "Apple And Advertising. Oooh, oooh! There products!" (spoken, of course, like iGor from Young Frankenstein)

[kylos]

I definitely don't like bad grammar, but I don't think too much of it unless it's real blatant (and then I check their location to see if they're from a non-english-speaking country). And if you're typing too fast and mess something up please just check your reply before posting it. It doesn't take that long and it's the only polite thing to do. Don't force people to edit for you. (And if english isn't your primary language, don't worry, english can be a pain since it is a conglomeration of so many languages).

[scem0]

Originally posted by rice_web
I don't know about the whole thing. I mean, let's look at it for a second:

"Power Books And There Life Spans"

Maybe the author meant, "PowerBooks! Oh, and over there life spans!!" Perhaps the author was only excited that life spans just happened to be next to a stack of PowerBooks.

"Apple And Advertising There Products"

Again, it's probably just a "Where Wolf? There Wolf." incident. I'm presuming that the author intended, "Apple And Advertising. Oooh, oooh! There products!" (spoken, of course, like iGor from Young Frankenstein)

I am seriously doubting that is what they meant....... ;) :p

[topicolo]

your = possessive case of you, as in "it's your fault that you don't know grammar".
you're = contraction for "you are"
there = noun, as in "it is there"
they're = contraction for "they are"
their = possessive case of they, as in "it's their fault that you don't know grammar"
its = possessive for it, as in "its brain is small"
it's = contraction for "it is"

it wasn't that hard, was it? ;)

[rice_web]

Originally posted by topicolo
there = noun, as in "it is there"


'There' is a noun? I would have thought determiner, or adjective.

[topicolo]

"Go there" There is a place. Place=noun

Although this isn't always true, as in "There is a spiffy new 17" Powerbook G4"

[scem0]

'there' is?!?!?!

Sorry, I make bad jokes... I'll shut up now.:( :( ;) :p

[beez7777]

Originally posted by topicolo
"Go there" There is a place. Place=noun

Although this isn't always true, as in "There is a spiffy new 17" Powerbook G4"

as long as we're getting nit-picky, i'm not sure, but i think that "there" might actually be a pronoun in the sentence "Go there." (not 100% sure, so don't attack me if it isn't) :)

[mischief]

There:

3 entries:

Main Entry: 1there
Pronunciation: '[th]ar, '[th]er
Function: adverb
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English th[AE]r; akin to Old High German dAr there, Old English thæt that
Date: before 12th century
1 : in or at that place <stand over there> -- often used interjectionally
2 : to or into that place : THITHER <went there after church>
3 : at that point or stage <stop right there before you say something you'll regret>
4 : in that matter, respect, or relation <there is where I disagree with you>
5 -- used interjectionally to express satisfaction, approval, encouragement or sympathy, or defiance <there, it's finished>

Main Entry: 2there
Pronunciation: '[th]ar, '[th]er, 1 is also [th]&r
Function: pronoun
Date: before 12th century
1 -- used as a function word to introduce a sentence or clause <there shall come a time>
2 -- used as an indefinite substitute for a name <hi there>

Main Entry: 3there
Pronunciation: same as 1
Function: noun
Date: 1588
1 : that place or position <there is no here and no there... in pure space -- James Ward>
2 : that point <you take it from there>


So it's a Noun, Adverb and a Pronoun.

Next issue.
:rolleyes:

[Dont Hurt Me]

Maybe arn will add a spell checker in the reply to topic so you noids arent annoyed! Who gives a hoot it aint the New York Times or Smithsonian.

[shadowfax]

i strongly believe in being careful about spelling things right, but i wouldn't get worked up about a spelling error on a forum, for the most part. as you can guess, i don't care about capitalizing at the beginning of sentences.

i do get annoyed slightly by the there/their thing and other things like that, because it throws me off when i am reading--i have to stop, and think, "what?" and then, "oh, he meant something other than what he accidentally said." it's ok though, i can understand mistakes, and it's highly forgivable on a forum where you aren't graded, published, or responsible to the people who read this.

and as pointed out, a lot of people here have english as a second language, and while it would be helpful to them to have people correct their errors KINDLY, that just doesn't happen, and if it could, it would just waste time, except on a thread where we specifically discuss it :).

i try to avoid commenting on grammar for the sake of doing that, because that here is just pathetic. but it's surely worth discussing sometimes.

[beatle888]

you have to realize that not all of us
are straight arrows. we dont care to be.
my shorts arent starched, my hair isnt
brushed, i still get the bitches and thats
what counts. you can dot the i's and
cross the t's, but i'd stop worrying about
it before you develope some sick violent
tendency because of it.

[sparks9]

You can't expect people who don't have english as their native language to write perfect english.
I bet I can write better danish than you can. :D

[beatle888]

Originally posted by MacQuest
Originally posted by Nipsy
I am a very nitpicky and anal person, and I am annoyed by errors.

However, I often make them.

I just wish more people had the self-respect to edit erroneous posts when THEY notice THEIR own errors.


sorry i just dont give a **** what you think
about me. its not just YOU...that goes for
anybody. thats like bitching at your girlfriend
cause she left a towel on the floor. isnt there
anything better in your life to keep you from
feeling this way about typos made by people
who dont care about typos....your setting your
self up for a frustrating life. you cant change
us. i consider message board spewing a form
of relaxation and i dont find it relaxing to
worry about grammer.

however i do love hearing proper grammer.
but i hope i never become such a nerd/geek
that i spend my time worrying about such
petty things.

its a reply on a message board thats of no true
importance in the big picture. relax.

what gets ME are all the sheep governments
seem to round up...god that pisses me off.
but grammer errors....puhleeeze.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by beatle888



sorry i just dont give a **** what you think
about me. its not just YOU...that goes for
anybody. thats like bitching at your girlfriend
cause she left a towel on the floor. isnt there
anything better in your life to keep you from
feeling this way about typos made by people
who dont care about typos....your setting your
self up for a frustrating life. you cant change
us. i consider message board spewing a form
of relaxation and i dont find it relaxing to
worry about grammer.

however i do love hearing proper grammer.
but i hope i never become such a nerd/geek
that i spend my time worrying about such
petty things.

its a reply on a message board thats of no true
importance in the big picture. relax.

what gets ME are all the sheep governments
seem to round up...god that pisses me off.
but grammer errors....puhleeeze.

I'm curious... if you don't care what we think, then why even come here? is there the slightest point?

and about the forum in general--you said that getting "bitches" was what counts. were you talking about loose women or like replies on a forum where people bitch at you? if it's the former, i am curious as to why you visit the forums, as that doesn't promote the goal of getting loose women; if the latter, then i wonder, why are you slamming all these nitpicky people for not having lives?

[MrMacMan]

Get don't annoyied by grammatical please errors.

All you go fusk yourselves if you are annoyed by errors, k?

[Les Kern]

"Tarry with trifles, and ye be not long lifed"
It isn't worth it, you never know if it was an honest mistake or the person is not very good with grammar. So you assume the person is not perfect, and you like perfection. Therefore you must be perfect. That's ovbiously a crock, so maybe you strive to be perfect. Now you have a circular argument, which leads... nowhere. The moral: drop it and do something constructive. The meaning of the thread was clear.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by MrMacman
Get don't annoyied by grammatical please errors.

All you go fusk yourselves if you are annoyed by errors, k?


mene coments ar yourn. wat point is teh? acn yo tihs unerstan? tihs si a abd karikaterizzation of teh erors ew ar sidcussing.

ont olnly taht, but fi yo watn uss tto ahve teh plezuer yu tihnk is devired tehrein, prehpas yo cna plezzuer us yorselve?

it makes you slow down, huh? you don't find that annoying?

[Les Kern]

By the way "frontpage" should, according to proper grammar, be two words.
Wait.
Should it be:
By the way, "frontpage" should be, according to proper grammar, two words.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by Les Kern
By the way "frontpage" should, according to proper grammar, be two words.
Wait.
Should it be:
By the way, "frontpage" should be, according to proper grammar, two words.

By the way, "frontpage" should, according to proper grammar, be two words.

i think that works too. ;)

[Sun Baked]

Sometimes it hard to tell when people are having a random coherent thought, when it's hidden behind a wall of gibberish.

It get's really bad when, the people trying to decipher the post, are arguing whether it was even written in English.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by Sun Baked
Sometimes it hard to tell when people are having a random coherent thought

cold, cold, cold. lol. very nice. good call.

[beatle888]

Originally posted by Shadowfax


I'm curious... if you don't care what we think, then why even come here? is there the slightest point?

and about the forum in general--you said that getting "bitches" was what counts. were you talking about loose women or like replies on a forum where people bitch at you? if it's the former, i am curious as to why you visit the forums, as that doesn't promote the goal of getting loose women; if the latter, then i wonder, why are you slamming all these nitpicky people for not having lives?



um maybe we should learn to read replies before
um bitching about them. nuff said...really i just
wanted to say relax...theres more important
things in life that might need our attentioin.
and i dont care what you think. why should i.
and where did you get loose bitches from :D

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by beatle888




um maybe we should learn to read replies before
um bitching about them. nuff said...really i just
wanted to say relax...theres more important
things in life that might need our attentioin.
and i dont care what you think. why should i.
and where did you get loose bitches from :D
Originally posted by beatle888
you have to realize that not all of us
are straight arrows. we dont care to be.
my shorts arent starched, my hair isnt
brushed, i still get the bitches and thats
what counts. you can dot the i's and
cross the t's, but i'd stop worrying about
it before you develope some sick violent
tendency because of it.

i don't appreciate your telling anyone, especially people who've done nothing to injure you, to go "fusk" themselves, or that they don't have a life. the fact that someone is careful about grammar and desires the same from others is in no way conclusive evidence that that person is a loser/has no life, any more than the fact that you use these forums to let off steam, or whatever it is you said you use them for, implies such about you. i tacked "loose" on there because it sounds like you think that women (i assume that's what you're talking about, i hope it wasn't dogs for real) are objects--and hence anyone you "get" would be loose. i dunno. i understood that comment sexual ("i still get laid" is my understanding) and i was rather appalled.

[beatle888]

Originally posted by Shadowfax



i don't appreciate your telling anyone, especially people who've done nothing to injure you, to go "fusk" themselves, or that they don't have a life. the fact that someone is careful about grammar and desires the same from others is in no way conclusive evidence that that person is a loser/has no life, any more than the fact that you use these forums to let off steam, or whatever it is you said you use them for, implies such about you. i tacked "loose" on there because it sounds like you think that women (i assume that's what you're talking about, i hope it wasn't dogs for real) are objects--and hence anyone you "get" would be loose. i dunno. i understood that comment sexual ("i still get laid" is my understanding) and i was rather appalled.


im sorry, im just not even in the mood to
explain, or even care to read your replies.

all im saying is to bad if you dont like me
or my grammer, does that summerize for you?

now go.....you bother me.:D

[beatle888]

Originally posted by beatle888



im sorry, im just not even in the mood to
explain, or even care to read your replies.

all im saying is to bad if you dont like me
or my grammer, does that summerize for you?

jeeze. dont worry about MMMEEEEE SO MUCH.
when i say get a life, if i did i cant remember
and dont care enough to really go over this with
you, it means, hey relax get a life, dont let
things that you cant control bother you so
much. i mean just because i or anyone else
practices lazy grammer doesnt mean the
grammer nazi's should be at our heallllllls.
sooooooo. i was sticking up for us horrid bunch
that sleep with loose women/men and dont
give a rats behind what you think

god this is the silliest thread ive seen.
now go.....you bother me.:D

just thought i'd post it again.....im not going to
be back for awhile and wanted to give you
something to do.

[janey]

p30PL3 Let'S 5T0P. eV3n +|-|Ou9|-| W3 M@|<3 |\/|1sT4|<35 WE 4Ll U|\|D3R5+@N|) E@C|-| 0t|-|er. |\|O 81G |)e@l...

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by beatle888



im sorry, im just not even in the mood to
explain, or even care to read your replies.

all im saying is to bad if you dont like me
or my grammer, does that summerize for you?

now go.....you bother me.:D

I'm not going anywhere; i'm not about to be ousted by one of the few jerks on this forum; sorry to disappoint you. you can ignore me all you want, because i know you won't--just after telling me you weren't going to explain, you did. just like that. thanks for enlightening me further as to your character. I'm sorry that you feel it's easy to just blow people off and treat them disrespectfully because you can't see their faces.

über, i can't completely read all your l33t, mind translating it?

[janey]

Originally posted by übergeek
p30PL3 Let'S 5T0P. eV3n +|-|Ou9|-| W3 M@|<3 |\/|1sT4|<35 WE 4Ll U|\|D3R5+@N|) E@C|-| 0t|-|er. |\|O 81G |)e@l...
Sure.
what it says: People, let's stop. even though we make mistakes we all understand each other [in some way or another]. no big deal...

[wdlove]

Originally posted by übergeek

Sure.
what it says: People, let's stop. even though we make mistakes we all understand each other [in some way or another]. no big deal...

Thank you for your sentiments. For no one is perfect. "Ye that casts the first stone."

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by übergeek

Sure.
what it says: People, let's stop. even though we make mistakes we all understand each other [in some way or another]. no big deal...

thanks. that's about what i thought, but the brackets threw me off.

I'm sorry for getting huffy with beatle. i do understand that people make mistakes (see thread on adam attarian), and others should bear them with grace. on this forum we generally have no trouble following one another in spite of very common spelling and grammatical errors. i was just saying, for myself, that it throws me off sometimes. for some reason, reading material with errors makes me slow down in my reading, usually. this is great on a forum, as no one posts long replies. it really bothers me in print though, like when i am reading a textbook that i have to get 40 pages through in an evening. i notice every error, and somehow, seeing them makes me look for more.

but i am complaining there about books that i PAY for. they have a responsibility to edit them. this forum is fair game, we're just messing around having a good time. i would never go off on someone because they weren't using proper grammar/spelling here.

[janey]

textbooks are big. of course you're gonna find mistakes. one of my friends found 129 mistakes (half math half grammar/spelling) in a 300 page Algebra I textbook-in the first half of the book alone.
In my calc textbook i rarely find any mistakes-grammatical or mathematical.
Ah the brackets i put in the translation's there to clear things up, they weren't actually in the original thing.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by übergeek
textbooks are big. of course you're gonna find mistakes. one of my friends found 129 mistakes (half math half grammar/spelling) in a 300 page Algebra I textbook-in the first half of the book alone.
In my calc textbook i rarely find any mistakes-grammatical or mathematical.

LOL. i don't read math textbooks. i've gone through half of AP calculus without reading or doing homework. we have one of the best teachers i have ever seen in my life teaching that class; i manage low-mid B's, though i think i am getting an A this six weeks'.. what grade are you in?

i was more talking about a college-level social studies book, where you get multiple pages of just huge blocks of text. you have to pay attention much more carefully than in a math textbook, where they label things like "chapter sopics" in bullets and have formulae indented from the regular text along with short explanations.

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Shadowfax



mene coments ar yourn. wat point is teh? acn yo tihs unerstan? tihs si a abd karikaterizzation of teh erors ew ar sidcussing.

ont olnly taht, but fi yo watn uss tto ahve teh plezuer yu tihnk is devired tehrein, prehpas yo cna plezzuer us yorselve?

it makes you slow down, huh? you don't find that annoying?

no it doesn't.

And none of the grammar errors made here are so bad that they are beyond comprehension.

Really there are some 'their' instead of 'there' and visa-versa.
But one to his own spelling and grammar errors.

[janey]

why do you want to know what grade i'm in?

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by MrMacman


no it doesn't.

And none of the grammar errors made here are so bad that they are beyond comprehension.

Really there are some 'their' instead of 'there' and visa-versa.
But one to his own spelling and grammar errors.

lol, sorry i didn't make my sarcasm more obvious. as i said, that excessive caricaturization ("karikaterizzation") was inaccurate to the errors we make on this forum, which are minor and almost invariably easy to overlook. I was making fun of the guy i quoted.

[groovebuster]

Originally posted by topicolo
your = possessive case of you, as in "it's your fault that you don't know grammar".
you're = contraction for "you are"
there = noun, as in "it is there"
they're = contraction for "they are"
their = possessive case of they, as in "it's their fault that you don't know grammar"
its = possessive for it, as in "its brain is small"
it's = contraction for "it is"

it wasn't that hard, was it? ;)

It's funny... even though English is not my 1st language and I am struggling here and there with the right way to express things correctly, this is something I learned in my first and second year of English (5th and 6th grade) in primary school and I dare to say that I almost never screw those things up. The more it is amusing when I read posts from native English speakers that are so full of mistakes and errors that they would even fail to have English as a second language in high school here in Germany. In my opinion it is embarassing for those guys. It is not only important what you say, it is also important how you say it. And that includes the right use of grammar in written text.

Someone who is mixing up there and their must be dyslexic or (sorry...) kind of dumb, since those two words really have nothing to do with each other except that they are usually pronounced in a very similar way.

But we have the same problem with people here in Germany... and it is annoying.

Just my 2 Eurocents! :D

groovebuster

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by groovebuster


It's funny... even though English is not my 1st language and I am sruggling here and there with the right way to express things correctly, this is something I learned in my first and second year of English (5th and 6th grade) in primary school and I dare to say that I almost never screw those things up. The more it is amusing when I read posts from native English speakers that are so full of mistakes and errors that they would even fail to have English as a second language in high school here in Germany. In my opinion it is embarassing for those guys. It is not only important what you say, it is also important how you say it. And that includes the right use of grammar in written text.

Someone who is mixing up there and their must be dyslexic or (sorry...) kind of dumb, since those two words really have nothing to do with each other excpet that they are usually pronounced in a very similar way.

But we have the same problem with people here in Germany... and it is annoying.

Just my 2 Eurocents! :D

groovebuster

THAT was hilarious. you're right, though. there/their is not an error from laziness. it's a conceptual error that schools take pains to correct VERY early, and while it's a testament to how most americans just don't care, i don't care that they don't care. wow, i guess i am an american. honestly, this isn't a classroom, though, it's inconsequential. but if it makes you feel better, there's no harm in a laugh at others' expense.

[charboneau]

I'm with you all on the misplaced apostrophes. The one thing that used to drive me nuts, but I've learned to accept because it is so common is:

ANYWAYS

I admit it. It still bothers me.

[topicolo]

I think the laziness excuse is just that, a bad excuse.
Most people who make the there, their, your, you're, etc. excuses don't even realize that they are making them. Typing an extra character for every sentence is hardly a huge effort. People who never learned grammar properly are just using the laziness excuse as a crutch.

Personally, I think it's fine if someone very young, or someone who's learning english to make mistakes, but it's very annoying to see native adult speakers make these simple errors. Ironically, I've also noticed that most ESL (english as a second language) speakers actually write more eloquent prose than a lot of native speakers

[Sun Baked]

Originally posted by topicolo
I think the laziness excuse is just that, a bad excuse.
Most people who make the there, their, your, you're, etc. excuses don't even realize that they are making them. Typing an extra character for every sentence is hardly a huge effort. People who never learned grammar properly are just using the laziness excuse as a crutch.

Personally, I think it's fine if someone very young, or someone who's learning english to make mistakes, but it's very annoying to see native adult speakers make these simple errors. Ironically, I've also noticed that most ESL (english as a second language) speakers actually write more eloquent prose than a lot of native speakers People read, write, and speak at differing levels of competency.

People may even write different types of material at different levels of competency and/or eloquence.

It's not always laziness...

Though it is distressing to get MS Word documents full of spelling errors.