They Knew All Along, Wii Didn't...

[SamIchi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ilu8fKK_38&eurl=

This video was presented back in 2005.
Only Nintendo would do sumthin' like this, that's why I love them.

[grapes911]

I don't know if they planned to call it Wii from the beginning. I've heard from many sources that one of the reasons that Wii was chosen was that "we" sounded very personable especially compared to 360 or PS3. Assuming the same people worked on both this video and naming the system, it only makes sense that they felt by using "we" over and over they were being personal. Again, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that this was all planned, but I wouldn't deny it either.

[SamIchi]

I don't know if they planned to call it Wii from the beginning. I've heard from many sources that one of the reasons that Wii was chosen was that "we" sounded very personable especially compared to 360 or PS3. Assuming the same people worked on both this video and naming the system, it only makes sense that they felt by using "we" over and over they were being personal. Again, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that this was all planned, but I wouldn't deny it either.

I suppose....

[grapes911]

I suppose....
You don't sound too conviced. :o

I'm just trying to be neutral and give a possible alternative explanation.

[SamIchi]

You don't sound too conviced. :o

I'm just trying to be neutral and give a possible alternative explanation.

Nah, I agree with you, I just never looked at it that way, and it kinda took away the awesomeness factor about it. The "potential" truth hurts :rolleyes:

[plinkoman]

is it just me, or is that video extreamly annoying?

"we expanded the definition of"....

god, if i here that one more time i think i'm going to shoot something. :cool:

[MacRumorUser]

We expanded the definition of gameplay? Picture of the cube? Whilst I love my cube I dont think it expanded gameplay in any new way, shape or form.

The hookup to GBA was nominal at best, a bongo controller? mmm :confused:, a next gen mario game that wasn't AS good as any other Mario and no way near as monumental experience as Mario64........

We expanded the definition of wireless?

Wavebird. Chunky, No Rumble.... Really expanding the definition :rolleyes:

[GFLPraxis]

We expanded the definition of wireless?

Wavebird. Chunky, No Rumble.... Really expanding the definition :rolleyes:


Oh no. You don't bash the Wavebird.

The Wavebird was the first wireless controller on the market that had absolutely no lag through walls and decent reception and works as well as a wired controller. Nowadays Logitech also makes good wireless, but Nintendo beat them too it and was the first (and in fact only, not counting XBox 360) company to come out with first party wireless controllers.

Oh and I do agree, the video is annoying.

[Haoshiro]

Yeah, I've always loved my Wavebird... best wireless pad I've ever used... and pretty much identical to the standard controller in layout. Awesome.

[colocolo]

The Wavebird was the first wireless controller on the market that had absolutely no lag through walls


No lag through walls? Did you actually played with a wall between you and the console? Man, you're REALLY good! :eek: :D

[eva01]

wavebird is the best controller i own.

except when i throw it it doesn't get stopped by a wire T_T

its how i have already broken one

[GFLPraxis]

No lag through walls? Did you actually played with a wall between you and the console? Man, you're REALLY good! :eek: :D

Yup, I rule :p

Actually, I did play through a wall. I had a friend stay in the room with the console and I went to see how far back I could go and still play.

Went to the opposite end of my house before it started skipping. Like two walls between me and the system.

[mkrishnan]

No lag through walls? Did you actually played with a wall between you and the console? Man, you're REALLY good! :eek: :D

If Luke Skywalker can do it with a blindfold, you should be able to play through walls! :eek: ;) :D

[2nyRiggz]

Wavebird was heavy but great......i always throw it at the TV and it never cracked....thanks nintendo!:)


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[SamIchi]

wavebird is the best controller i own.

except when i throw it it doesn't get stopped by a wire T_T

its how i have already broken one


How could you! Poor Wavebird.

Don't bash the Wavebird, Nintendo did a great job with it, and did it the right way.

[elfin buddy]

Is it a trick on my eyes, or was there a very brief flash of Revolution right at the end? Had they already released pictures of Revolution when this video was made? (I call it Revolution here because it was long before it was called Wii)

[mkrishnan]

Is it a trick on my eyes, or was there a very brief flash of Revolution right at the end? Had they already released pictures of Revolution when this video was made? (I call it Revolution here because it was long before it was called Wii)

I thought it was there, too. I think *that* was intentional.

[Dagless]

Is it a trick on my eyes, or was there a very brief flash of Revolution right at the end? Had they already released pictures of Revolution when this video was made? (I call it Revolution here because it was long before it was called Wii)

It is there, with 2006 infront of it. *has 10mb .mov version from way back*

Annoying vid. "we", smart reference if true.

[GFLPraxis]

Is it a trick on my eyes, or was there a very brief flash of Revolution right at the end? Had they already released pictures of Revolution when this video was made? (I call it Revolution here because it was long before it was called Wii)

This is from the Leipzig gaming conference in Germany, I think it was after E3 2005 when Nintendo showed the Revolution.
EDIT: August 17th, 2005. Yup. After E3.

[crachoar]

Oh no. You don't bash the Wavebird.

Nowadays Logitech also makes good wireless, but Nintendo beat them too it and was the first (and in fact only, not counting XBox 360) company to come out with first party wireless controllers.

Not true.

The Logitech wireless controllers for the PS2 and XBOX came out long before the WaveBird.

They also included rumble functions, with two settings.

And for the record, I dislike the Wavebird for that reason alone.


On the topic of the name for the console, I doubt they knew that early into it. Probably just a coincidence.

[GFLPraxis]

Not true.

The Logitech wireless controllers for the PS2 and XBOX came out long before the WaveBird.

They also included rumble functions, with two settings.

And for the record, I dislike the Wavebird for that reason alone.


On the topic of the name for the console, I doubt they knew that early into it. Probably just a coincidence.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but Google tells me that the Logitech PS2 wireless controller came out on 09/17/2002, and the Wavebird's release date was 06/13/2002. That would put the Wavebird first. And either way, Wavebird is the first actually usable first-party wireless controller on the market.

[shadowmoses]

Perhaps I'm wrong, but Google tells me that the Logitech PS2 wireless controller came out on 09/17/2002, and the Wavebird's release date was 06/13/2002. That would put the Wavebird first. And either way, Wavebird is the first actually usable first-party wireless controller on the market.

Thats true the wavebird was defiantly the first of its kind the logitech's followed a couple of months later....

ShadoW

[MacRumorUser]

Who cares who came first on consoles :rolleyes:

Logitech & Gravis had cordless pc pads way before wavebird.
Logitech subsequent cordless xbox and ps2 pads are the best examples of pads.

The fact that Nintendo designed the rumble pack and changed the course of controller design, back in the early days of N64 (with lylat wars).

Then took that feature out of its cordless pad was taking a BIG step back for me.

Especially when you look at games like Animal Crossing or Zelda:Four Swords & Windwaker, where the rumble is an important feature for finding stuff, making the wavebird redundant if you want to experience the game as it was meant to be played.

[GFLPraxis]

Who cares who came first on consoles :rolleyes:

Logitech & Gravis had cordless pc pads way before wavebird.
Logitech subsequent cordless xbox and ps2 pads are the best examples of pads.

The fact that Nintendo designed the rumble pack and changed the course of controller design, back in the early days of N64 (with lylat wars).

Then took that feature out of its cordless pad was taking a BIG step back for me.

Especially when you look at games like Animal Crossing or Zelda:Four Swords & Windwaker, where the rumble is an important feature for finding stuff, making the wavebird redundant if you want to experience the game as it was meant to be played.

*shrugs* I played through Wind Waker and part of Four Swords with no rumble (heck, I played through Four Swords in co-op using a GBA SP!).

Fact is that Nintendo made the first wireless console pad that was actually perfectly usable in any game with no glitches. Logitech came second. So, simply, don't diss it. You don't have to praise it, but don't diss it either. It was innovative.

[eva01]

yeah i played through wind waker without the rumble either.

I actually prefer to not have rumble in most of my games

[MacRumorUser]

Hey I love my nintedo. How many on this forum have a Q and over 150 cube games?

I am allowed to say if I think the wavebird was NOT inovative in my opinion. It doesnt change yours, i'm not even attempting to, but for me it wasn't great.
There were some problems with all cube pads, the digital pad is too small as well.

Compare the cube pad & wavebird to the N64 (first analogue & rumble) or the Snes pad (possibly the greatest digital pad ever created, and was innovated when they added 6 buttons for SF2) and you can see that it clearly has very little innovation in comparison. What does it do that the ps2 or xbox pad dont? How has it effected their subsequent design? Not at all....

How can you all of a sudden say don't knock the innovation of the lacklustre wavebird, and then dismiss the rumble as a non important facet of gameplay experience, when Nintendo themselves invented that.... :rolleyes:

You can have my wavebird, I'll keep my beautiful grey Panasonic Q pad :p :p :p :p

[Dagless]

I never had a Wavebird :( The Wii will break my wireless controller virginity. It was always the battery side that let me down. I don't want to be playing a game and have it die on me.

Though technically, the NES did have a wireless controller too. Though infrared. So it was far from what we're used to now with non-directional wireless.

[SamIchi]

Hey I love my nintedo. How many on this forum have a Q and over 150 cube games?

I am allowed to say if I think the wavebird was NOT inovative in my opinion. It doesnt change yours, i'm not even attempting to, but for me it wasn't great.
There were some problems with all cube pads, the digital pad is too small as well.

Compare the cube pad & wavebird to the N64 (first analogue & rumble) or the Snes pad (possibly the greatest digital pad ever created, and was innovated when they added 6 buttons for SF2) and you can see that it clearly has very little innovation in comparison. What does it do that the ps2 or xbox pad dont? How has it effected their subsequent design? Not at all....

How can you all of a sudden say don't knock the innovation of the lacklustre wavebird, and then dismiss the rumble as a non important facet of gameplay experience, when Nintendo themselves invented that.... :rolleyes:

You can have my wavebird, I'll keep my beautiful grey Panasonic Q pad :p :p :p :p

That's very ostentatious of you. You're entitled to your opinion but does the fact that you own more Nintendo items than average, make your opinions more valuable? I think not :p It was innovative because it was made by the first party, and presented it as such without glitches and problems. Other companies didn't do that. Nintendo presented something new to the console "war" so that makes it innovative.

[SamIchi]

I never had a Wavebird :( The Wii will break my wireless controller virginity. It was always the battery side that let me down. I don't want to be playing a game and have it die on me.

Though technically, the NES did have a wireless controller too. Though infrared. So it was far from what we're used to now with non-directional wireless.

You're missin' out. They take a hella long time for the batteries to run out. And the probability that it will run out in a dire time is probably pretty small. If tha does happen i'm sure you can live with it. :D

[2nyRiggz]

I still have one of my GC controller in its original package because of the wavebird....its nice to play whiles sitting next to my computer..typing with u fellas without worrying about my GC falling off....


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[MacRumorUser]

That's very ostentatious of you. You're entitled to your opinion but does the fact that you own more Nintendo items than average, make your opinions more valuable? I think not :p

Did I say it did?

It was a reply in response to being told not to diss the wavebird controler. I was saying that just because I dont like the wavebird doesnt mean I dont love nintendo, enough to invest in a nice cube.

i was in no way saying my opinion counted more than anyone elses, which was quite clear in the rest of the post. If you could only read more than 1 sentance before judging. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Yvan256]

yeah i played through wind waker without the rumble either.

I actually prefer to not have rumble in most of my games

I also hate rumble... I wish the system itself had a preference setting for that... The games should default to the system setting (so I don't have to go disable the damn thing every time I start a new game). Same goes for the "invert Y" setting.

[GFLPraxis]

I never had a Wavebird :( The Wii will break my wireless controller virginity. It was always the battery side that let me down. I don't want to be playing a game and have it die on me.

Though technically, the NES did have a wireless controller too. Though infrared. So it was far from what we're used to now with non-directional wireless.

Blah, you are a confused little man. I haven't changed my Wavebird's battery in over a year. On top of that, when it does die, the light starts getting dimmer, and when it dies, there's still always enough power to turn it off, on, and pause.

[Dagless]

Blah, you are a confused little man. I haven't changed my Wavebird's battery in over a year. On top of that, when it does die, the light starts getting dimmer, and when it dies, there's still always enough power to turn it off, on, and pause.

Ah thats good. See thats something they need to change the belief of. Wireless controllers, wireless anything just makes me think short battery life. It's so just a preconception, and I do have a tendency to worry about the smallest things like that.

If there is enough room for a Wavebird port on the Wii I'll fork out for one then. I just don't play my Cube enough now to warrant buying one.

[ReanimationLP]

is it just me, or is that video extreamly annoying?

"we expanded the definition of"....

god, if i here that one more time i think i'm going to shoot something. :cool:

Seconded.

*tosses plinkoman a shotgun*

Shall we go in? :D

They forgot to mention they expanded that Subway guys butt too. XD

[MacRumorUser]

Fact is that Nintendo made the first wireless console pad that was actually perfectly usable in any game with no glitches. Logitech came second. So, simply, don't diss it. You don't have to praise it, but don't diss it either. It was innovative.


Just to add fire to the furnace...

Logitecth Cordless Wingman RumblePad 2.4ghz
Released September 2001 by Logitech

Type Game Pad
Connectivity Wireless
Buttons Qty. 11
Exterior Color Gray
Platform PC • Mac
Technical Features:- Analog Control Throttle • Thumb Stick • 8-way D-pad

Connectivity technology 2.4 GHz RF

Features Programmable Buttons • Vibration
Wheel / Pedals Features Rumble feedback

Battery Type and Quantity 4 x AA Batteries

System Requirements
Operating System Apple MacOS X • Microsoft Windows 2000 • Microsoft Windows 98 • Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition • Microsoft Windows XP

Release Date September, 2001
MPN 963246-0403
Product ID 20299764

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Wavebird Cordless Pad
Released July 2002 by Nintendo

Brand Nintendo
MPN dolablg2
Product ID 22201597
Release Date, July 2002

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So Nintendo go there first with RF technology did they?
Notice how the Wingman had rumble too.

Told ya so :p Innovate my bum! :D :D

[Dagless]

More fuel? Or a dash of water?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NES_Satellite

infact the NES had a slew of pretty out there accessories http://www.nintendoland.com/home2.htm?nes/access.htm

[MacRumorUser]

LOL ;) I had a Rob limited edition NES pack.

He was so cool, also had the bazooka for duck hunt.

I loved my NES too, Mario, Kid Icarus (hey whatever happened to him? A nintendo IP they just forgot about), Turtles, so many cool games. The cartridges were HUGE too, a time when you realy got loads of plastic for your money :)

[GFLPraxis]

Just to add fire to the furnace...

Logitecth Cordless Wingman RumblePad 2.4ghz
Released September 2001 by Logitech

Type Game Pad
Connectivity Wireless
Buttons Qty. 11
Exterior Color Gray
Platform PC • Mac
Technical Features:- Analog Control Throttle • Thumb Stick • 8-way D-pad

Connectivity technology 2.4 GHz RF

Features Programmable Buttons • Vibration
Wheel / Pedals Features Rumble feedback

Battery Type and Quantity 4 x AA Batteries

System Requirements
Operating System Apple MacOS X • Microsoft Windows 2000 • Microsoft Windows 98 • Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition • Microsoft Windows XP

Release Date September, 2001
MPN 963246-0403
Product ID 20299764

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Wavebird Cordless Pad
Released July 2002 by Nintendo

Brand Nintendo
MPN dolablg2
Product ID 22201597
Release Date, July 2002

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So Nintendo go there first with RF technology did they?
Notice how the Wingman had rumble too.

Told ya so :p Innovate my bum! :D :D


I said the first wireless CONSOLE pad - the one you quoted is for PC. ;) :p Neener neener! lol

[Dagless]

Aye. It's mad how far we haven't come really. It's only been enhancements to what the NES brought to the table. Wireless controllers, 4 controller ports, keyboards, dance pads, online play, guns, modding, game download (well that was SNES). I always forget how good the NES was.

[MacRumorUser]

Can some one jog my memory? Did Kid Icarus appear in the nintendo cartoon. What was it called again? I reember it had someone dragged into the nintendo universe, gamesmaster or some such.... aghhh I'm getting old and it's bugging me :D

[grapes911]

Can some one jog my memory? Did Kid Icarus appear in the nintendo cartoon. What was it called again? I reember it had someone dragged into the nintendo universe, gamesmaster or some such.... aghhh I'm getting old and it's bugging me :D
I watched that show religiously. I would tie a NES controller around my waist and grab my zapper. I guess I was a nerd. :o

Anyway, it was called Captain N: The Game Master (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096554/) and Kid Icarus was in it.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/Capnn.jpg


Oh and it should be on DVD soon.
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5292

[Counterfit]

Oh and it should be on DVD soon.
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5292
Oh **** yeah!

[MacRumorUser]

Cool I knew it had gamesmaster in it somewhere :)

Not sure I'd buy it on DVD, I have enough embarrasing childhood flashback dvds in my collection (transformers, masters of the universe)... I think people might get worried :D :D :D

[2nyRiggz]

I watched that show religiously. I would tie a NES controller around my waist and grab my zapper. I guess I was a nerd. :o
Anyway, it was called Captain N: The Game Master (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096554/) and Kid Icarus was in it.
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5292

This show was cool...watched it everyday....what was the name of the ball thing?


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