iPods Tuesday?

[MacRumors]

LoopRumors (http://www.looprumors.com) links to this Forbes summary (http://www.forbes.com/2003/02/22/cx_ss_0222peopletowatch.html) of circulating iPod rumors.


Not surprisingly, the Apple rumor mill is bubbling up with buzz about an upgrade to Apple's popular iPod digital music player.


Speculation and Hints of iPod updates have circulated for weeks now, with traditionally accurate ThinkSecret (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/02/20030216235153.shtml) posting an update simply indicating that iPod updates are coming.

Last week, MacWhispers committed (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/02/20030221152124.shtml) to Tuesday, Feb 25th, after a few false starts.

[claughery]

Hmmmm.... No info yet... we can all only hope!

[DreaminDirector]

come on tuesday....daddy needs a new ipod!

[Sonofhaig]

What are we expecting with an update here?

[BigJayhawk]

200 Gig HD, Full Color Big Screen, Cellular Phone, Mac OSX, Palm OS, Newton OS, and NO Windows CE (just to make every mac fan happy), Video JukeBox.

Oh, if rumors would just become reality. (Even if they are just perpetual minor update rumors. Come out with the revisions Apple so we can stop talking and start buying SOMETHING!)

Please?

[timbloom]

Originally posted by Sonofhaig
What are we expecting with an update here?

Well, either just a size jump up to 40 gigs, or a complete redesign. Current availability suggests a size jump.

[jamilecrire]

Oh wait, my check doesn't come in until friday. Hold off on that. Yea iPod's.

Then again I still cannot buy a 17" that was announced 6-8 weeks ago, so go ahead and announce the 15" Powerbooks. By the time they are in the stores I'll have my cash on hand.

Having 3 jobs sucks until you buy a Powerbook, Cinema Display and Digital Camera in the same week!!!! (The downside is there's no time to play, all work and no play make homer go crazy!)

[Fender2112]

If I simply predict an update to the Power Mac, will that mean I'm accurate?

[MacUser1]

i'm hoping for a total revamp this time: 40GB, Color Screen, Music, Video and Photo capabilites and AV out, however I doubt that Apple would announce a product like this (if ever avaiable) at a major event. However, if the 25th iPods are only an HD bump, then that gives me time to save up for one of my dream iPods the next time they are revised.

[mangoman]

Good lord, Apple. Just do it already, whatever it is.

[esome]

My wish list of new features...

mp4 and ogg support
recording capabilities
built in FM reciever
a few games (this would probably necesitate a better screen too I guess)

[evilfunkgenius]

As with the other iPod updates, does this mean we will get an updated iTunes? and possibly iPod software update as well?

I am really hoping that they will add song tracking into the next iPod software rev. It would be nice to have my home "# of songs played" be accurate and include songs played on the iPod.

And who ISN'T waiting for iTunes 4.

[evilfunkgenius]

Originally posted by esome
My wish list of new features...

mp4 and ogg support
recording capabilities
built in FM reciever
a few games (this would probably necesitate a better screen too I guess)

Come on now... let's be a little realistic. Not only would this cost the consumer way too much as a built-in item, but they just haven't gotten the mileage out of the current hardware design enough to justifty a complete re-design just yet. Apple is no dummy... they are going to milk the iPod design for all it is worth, especially in the current economy.

...now, if they designed a new remote control will an LCD display or some sort of AM/FM reciever, then I would be quite a happy camper. (granted, I know that this is also quite unrealistic)

All that said, I just hope they give us existing iPod owners something besides just a major internal upgrade. (ie: new headphones, new remote, better case... somthing we can add onto our 'pods.)

[greenfruit]

i want to replace my 5gig with a 20gig ipod, im hoping they release a 40gig one and so drop the price of the 20gig. it seems that the 5gigs are to be no more as apparently toshiba (or whoever) dont make 5gig anymore.

[ennerseed]

Originally posted by evilfunkgenius
Come on now... let's be a little realistic. Not only would this cost the consumer way too much as a built-in item, but they just haven't gotten the mileage out of the current hardware design enough to justifty a complete re-design just yet. Apple is no dummy... they are going to milk the iPod design for all it is worth, especially in the current economy.

Now, if they designed a new remote control will an LCD display or some sort of AM/FM reciever, then I would be quite a happy camper.

All that said, I just hope they give us existing iPod owners something besides just a major internal upgrade. (ie: new headphones, new remote, better case... somthing we can add onto our 'pods.)

your lcd and reciever would be the more expensive then recording and mp4 and ogg support.

I want one that is a transformer that will go around and kick people that post dumb s%$t.

[chewbaccapits]

I just blew my money on a video card!///...I couldn't wait any longer...I've been waiting since like...Before freaken X-mas!...Darn APPLE (Clenched fist in the air)!...

[Foxer]

I'll be happy with a price cut on the 20GB (which will then hold my entire iTunes library) and - most important - a battery/power management system that is reliable.

[Hemingray]

If this is true, Tuesday will be a very nice day for me! New iPods AND Red Dwarf Series I and II DVD's! :cool:

And I just got my fourth iPod replacement on the 21st... :rolleyes: I may have to sell it. What a pity...

[Billicus]

Originally posted by evilfunkgenius
As with the other iPod updates, does this mean we will get an updated iTunes? and possibly iPod software update as well?

I am really hoping that they will add song tracking into the next iPod software rev. It would be nice to have my home "# of songs played" be accurate and include songs played on the iPod.

And who ISN'T waiting for iTunes 4.

It does.:rolleyes: Each time you play a song on your iPod and update with your Mac the number of times you listened to a song on your iPod gets added to the number of times you've listened to it on your Mac. I want my Rendevous support!

[Timothy]

Again...this rumor just seems to keep feeding off of itself.

As fas as I can tell, there is no hard evidence for an imminent release of new iPods. All the rumor sites are mererly feeding off of each other here, and building speculation.

Hmmm...I guess we'll see. But, this has been going on for about a month now, with each Tuesday coming and going.

Arn...does this really rise to a page 1 rumor, and if so, does that tell us that you have information we may not have?

[arn]

Originally posted by Timothy

Arn...does this really rise to a page 1 rumor, and if so, does that tell us that you have information we may not have?

Heh... actually, I accidentally posted it on page 1... but realized it was "summary"ish enough that it wasn't completely inappropriate.

I agree... no "hard" evidence is available.

arn

[evilfunkgenius]

Originally posted by Billicus
It does.:rolleyes: Each time you play a song on your iPod and update with your Mac the number of times you listened to a song on your iPod gets added to the number of times you've listened to it on your Mac. I want my Rendevous support!

only when you have your entire iPod set to sync your entire library. For those of us who have too many songs to fit, it disregards the playcount completely.

[birdFEEDER]

Okay, I'm surprized with all the musicians using Macs that nobody has mentioned using the iPod as a triggerable MIDI device. Like a super tiny sampler? There already exists a MIDI-over-firewire protocol and the HD inside is way-large enough to hold any sample bank(s).
What what about making it a MIDI device or including a SMF player for it. Heck, how about a tiny little MIDI sequencer, so you can write music at the beach? All on your iPod. Now THAT would be drop dead awesome...

:)

[evilfunkgenius]

Originally posted by ennerseed
your lcd and reciever would be the more expensive then recording and mp4 and ogg support.


True. I had meant my second comment as a seperate idea and have editted my original post to be more accurate.

[Snorlax]

Originally posted by Hemingray
And I just got my fourth iPod replacement on the 21st... :rolleyes: I may have to sell it. What a pity...

Which model have you got? 5 GB model? Why have you replaced it so many times?

[Snorlax]

What time CET are the updates normally?

[reflex]

Originally posted by evilfunkgenius
And who ISN'T waiting for iTunes 4.

Ah, that would be me ;)

[RBMaraman]

If they do update, I just hope to God they fix the battery problems. My 10Gb I got for Christmas is having major battery issues, and it looks like it might be on it's way back to Apple. :(

Things I'd like to see in the update, whenever it happens:
1. Improved battery life.
2. Different backing so it doesn't show fingerprints.
3. 40Gb and/or 30Gb HDD.
4. Price cuts.

Things I would NOT like to see:
1. Color screen (battery life would REALLY suck!).
2. Video capabilities.

I think people need to be realistic about these updates. Remember, the iPod is an MP3 player, not a PDA or Mini-laptop.

[reflex]

Originally posted by Snorlax
What time CET are the updates normally?

Between 2pm and 4pm CET is my impression from past updates.

[gotohamish]

The single most glaring problem with iTunes 3 is the lack of info about checked songs.

It's cool that you can see your library/playlist in days/hours/minutes, and click and change it, but what would be better would be a figure that told you how much your 'checked' library is. It was save a lot of hassle with the iPod.

[beez7777]

hopefully if the price is right, i'll buy the low end model. :)

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by Snorlax
Which model have you got? 5 GB model? Why have you replaced it so many times?

Yup, 5GB model. Okay, you asked for it... :D

1) Bought February 21, 2002. Two weeks later, a piece of the ring between the headphone jack and the remote contacts broke off. Apple Store wouldn't replace it, but I was able to get a replacement through a reseller.

2) Second one's working great. One day, it just dies. Try everything in the book to get it to work again. No dice. Send it in through Apple, they replace it promptly.

3) Third one's doing well, but I notice the battery status icon doesn't work. It stays at four bars until 10 minutes before it dies, and then it goes down to three bars, then dies. I go to the Apple store on February 20, 2003, exactly one day before my 1 year warranty expires, so that I can get the most out of my new 90 day warranty that I now have with my FOURTH iPod.

And there you have it. I'd like to mention for the record that I have "babied" every single one of my iPods, (the guy at the Genius Bar even commented that my iPod was one of the cleanest he'd ever seen). I must be one heck of an unlucky iPod owner. :p

[mcrain]

Originally posted by Hemingray
Yup, 5GB model. Okay, you asked for it... :D

1) Bought February 21, 2002. Two weeks later, a piece of the ring between the headphone jack and the remote contacts broke off. Apple Store wouldn't replace it, but I was able to get a replacement through a reseller.

That happened to my 20gig about 2 weeks after I got it, and Apple took care of it. Apple has fantastic customer support.

[esome]

Originally posted by evilfunkgenius
Come on now... let's be a little realistic. Not only would this cost the consumer way too much as a built-in item, but they just haven't gotten the mileage out of the current hardware design enough to justifty a complete re-design just yet. Apple is no dummy... they are going to milk the iPod design for all it is worth, especially in the current economy.

...now, if they designed a new remote control will an LCD display or some sort of AM/FM reciever, then I would be quite a happy camper. (granted, I know that this is also quite unrealistic)

All that said, I just hope they give us existing iPod owners something besides just a major internal upgrade. (ie: new headphones, new remote, better case... somthing we can add onto our 'pods.)

No. I don't feel compelled to be realistic. It's my "wish list" not my "realistic expectation list" and this "MacRumors.com" not "MacFacts.com". I'd be happy to get any of those features and intend to buy a new iPod when they are released no matter what. :)

[g30ffr3y]

the ipod turning into a sequencer/sampler... that would be awesome, but no way would it happen... i hope they come out tomorrow as ive been waiting forever... no sense getting hopes up though, this happens every week...

[nickmcghie]

hey Hemingray.. i've had a similar experience.. i'm on my 3rd ipod replacement.. it stopped working a few months ago.. the thing just wouldn't turn on even after i tried every trick in the book.. i was too lazy to replace it this time, so i've had a non-functional ipod sitting in my closet for the past couple of months.. kind of a disappoinment

[iwantanewmac]

Originally posted by mcrain
That happened to my 20gig about 2 weeks after I got it, and Apple took care of it. Apple has fantastic customer support.

UHM yeah right..........I have gotten my 3rd ipod (5 gig) allready and I called 3 times allready to send me a box to send it back to apple. No go.
Every time I get them on the phone they say.yeah we take care of it. and then I hear nothing from them again.
And I just bought a remote for my ipod and...it doesnt work....not that I can listen to it alot...
It dies within 2 hours.

[greenfruit]

without trying to get offthread with this, just briefly; im in the UK, and my (4ish months old) ibook battery died recently (got to 85% after about 10 minutes then jumped to 0%, did the same in reverse when charging), i phoned apple expecting hassle. A few days later, a courier had my replacement (presumably refurbished, ie not new) battery and i sent him back to apple with my old one.

Apple uk support has been good to me for this and in the past.

[ryme4reson]

It sucks all of you have had such bad expirences with the iPod. I got my 10 GIG early last summer sometime, and I have not had any problems at all.

I have dropped it many times, got the scroll wheel stuck with sand from the beach. And I use it on a daily basis (in the bathroom during showers with high steam, walking to class, at night in my room)

Is it only 5 gigs that are having these problems?

[KLFloyd]

Some of the rumor sites are saying that if the iPod is released tomorrow it will be "immediate availability." Any chance of that?

Here's my situaton, I'm taking a group of 40 12 year olds on a 16 hour bus trip this coming Thursday and an iPod would be WONDERFULL. But I'd like to buy my iPod from our local Best Buy and buy the extra service plan.

When I pulled up the Best Buy website I saw that the iPod's price had dropped $20 on the 10GB model and $30 on the 20GB model. Sounds like they know something...

[applejilted]

One feature which would definitely turn me from a fence sitter to a definite buyer would be if the new IPOD would have FM transmitting capablities so that I could hop in my car and switch the FM band to a particular frequency and voila ....instant access to all my MP3s in my car. I believe that Samsung has that in their upcoming hard drive based player.....that in my book is a killer feature and way more useful than the ability to play movies or even a color display.

[evilfunkgenius]

Originally posted by esome
No. I don't feel compelled to be realistic. It's my "wish list" not my "realistic expectation list" and this "MacRumors.com" not "MacFacts.com". I'd be happy to get any of those features and intend to buy a new iPod when they are released no matter what. :)

I guess I get caught up in discussing the reality of the rumors, not about what my fantasty iPod would be. (Because if that is the case, then I am on the level with you 100%). I would just shudder to think about how much a recordable iPod with all the bells and whistles would cost. :eek:

Unfortunately, as much as we all want an iPod that can record, it just doesn't seem like a reality because Apple probably wants to remain as neutral as possible with the RIAA while they are on a warpath. (I mean look when they did to minidiscs in America!? Digital ins and outs everywhere but here...) :(

[Snorlax]

Originally posted by evilfunkgenius
Unfortunately, as much as we all want an iPod that can record, it just doesn't seem like a reality because Apple probably wants to remain as neutral as possible with the RIAA while they are on a warpath. (I mean look when they did to minidiscs in America!? Digital ins and outs everywhere but here...) :(

What did they do to minidiscs in America?

[weev]

Originally posted by applejilted
One feature which would definitely turn me from a fence sitter to a definite buyer would be if the new IPOD would have FM transmitting capablities so that I could hop in my car and switch the FM band to a particular frequency and voila ....instant access to all my MP3s in my car. I believe that Samsung has that in their upcoming hard drive based player.....that in my book is a killer feature and way more useful than the ability to play movies or even a color display.

That it a a killer feature! At the moment you have to buy a third-party attachment at a modest cost. It would mean I could keep my lousy car cassette/radio player and have a great on road music system.

This is exaxctly the feature that will make me buy an iPod, to hell with the rent!:eek:

Any one had any experience with iTrip? A made for iPod FM transmitter apparently shown off at MWSF? This item does exactly what you want but having it built in would be elegant!

[yzedf]

this thread is making me think twice about even wanting a ipod...

any ideas what the failure rate is?

[evilfunkgenius]

Originally posted by Snorlax
What did they do to minidiscs in America?

All American MD player/recorders have "crippled" recording features. This was all decided, pre-mp3, as they tried to retain a firm grasp on overcharging consumers. If we want to start talking about conspiracy theory, then we could also talk about the reason why mini-discs never became so popular here.. most likely attributed to the RIAA as well.

Sorry for getting off topic. :o

[evilfunkgenius]

Originally posted by yzedf
this thread is making me think twice about even wanting a ipod...

any ideas what the failure rate is?

I have never had problems with my iPod, but the remote and headphones had some troubles. Even at that the problems weren't terrible, just a little annoying (buzzes and loose mechanisms). When I contacted Apple, they immediately replaced the broken parts with minimal headache.

However, I am interested to see what happens as the hard-drive and the battery get older. All the hard-drive rescue places I have spoken with talk smack about how a hard drive in a portable device is just asking for trouble. And just my experience with all batteries seems to fortell a bad power future. But it has been almost a year for mine and still going strong.

[esome]

Does anyone think it's strange that the apple store still refers to the 20 gig model as "new"?

[trog]

I just hope that the hard drive for the 20 gig is indeed "different".

I've owned a 5 gig for almost a year, and that thing is solid as a rock. My wife has now taken it over to train for a triathlon (ha! not me).

So, I bought a 20 gig in January and although I don't do triathlons I do like to jog with the pod. No such luck with the 20 gig. It has a horrible time loading the cache when running.

After reading the discussions of Apple's support forum I've realized it is only a problem with the 10 and 20 gig versions. There isn't a single reported problem of this with the 5 gig. However, if you read Apple's Knowledge base article 60969 it states that "iPod is designed to handle rigorous activity such as jogging or running"

So, I've sent it back to Apple, but the replacement wasn't any better. I've now sent the replacement to Apple and I'm hoping they'll send me the 'newer' 20gig with a fix. Otherwise... I think I'd rather have my old 5 gig back :(

[DeusOmnis]

I doubt Apple will have any updates for tuesday simply because they're working on getting rid of thier current supply of iPods. Unless they're planning on giving them away for free or something.

[Nermal]

Originally posted by gotohamish
The single most glaring problem with iTunes 3 is the lack of info about checked songs.

It's cool that you can see your library/playlist in days/hours/minutes, and click and change it, but what would be better would be a figure that told you how much your 'checked' library is. It was save a lot of hassle with the iPod.

Sorry, I'm quite new to iTunes, but what's a "checked" library?

[d46799]

Boy, these rumor sites have been stringing me along forever anticipating Apple's ipod update. If the new ones aren't out Tuesday, I'm liberating myself from the suspense and spending my money elsewhere and waiting until they get majorly revamped to buy one. Voting with my pocketbook.

[ebow]

Does this fantastic-sounding iPod service from Apple depend on your buying the iPod from Apple? Will they still do a snappy replacement for a bad battery if you bought it from Best Buy, etc.?

These (constant) rumors have me on the edge of my seat, and I think it's nearly time they come true, so I'm trying to figure out where I should get my 20GB-to-be. :D I've been weighing education discount vs. sales tax vs. shipping vs. service and don't quite know what to think.

[KLFloyd]

Originally posted by ebow
Does this fantastic-sounding iPod service from Apple depend on your buying the iPod from Apple? Will they still do a snappy replacement for a bad battery if you bought it from Best Buy, etc.?

Well, although I'd love the education discount Apple gives me for my iPod I do not have an Apple Store here in town, to me it's worth spending the extra money to buy my iPod at Best Buy where I can purchase an extended warranty.

Buying from a third party retailer and getting the extended wrranty will end up costing me about $80 more (assuming the same pricing plans hold) put that's the price I'm willing to pay. Where I can walk in and walk out in minutes wiht a new iPod rather than the days to ship it back and fourth to Apple.

I'm sorry, but I just don't trust the design of the iPod yet, and in 13 months I don't want to have a nice $400 paper weight.

[g30ffr3y]

Sorry, I'm quite new to iTunes, but what's a "checked" library?


in itunes you can uncheck songs you dont want to hear, but they stay in
your library to be turned back on at a later time...

[Nitro230ft]

Ok, this is what i think about MacWhispers prediction...They know the iPods are going to be released on tuesday but they don't want to release it as a fact. They want to make it seem as though they are very accurate when it comes to predictions. I think they have some solid information but they won't release...
Anyway, I really hope Mac doesn't drop Windows support. No one has mentioned Windows support but i doubt they will drop it. It's not like there's little profit in that sector. And another option I question is the remote and case that come with the iPods. Will they come with the 10gb?

[drastik]

As to iPod problems:

I have a 20 gig and I have had absolutely no problems. No problems running or jogging, no problems in the car, no problems with the head phones or the remote, no problems with battery or power management.

There are always going to be random problems with units, but the majority of iPods seem to work fine.

How an iPod is treated may bare examination, but I'm not particularly gentle with mine, and it has no problems.

[Monomni]

I came SO close to buying an 10G ipod the other day at CompUSA (didn't know about the impending updates), but the store was out of stock. Store manager quoted me a price $399 for the 20G and I got it in writing!! It's usally $499 isn't it? Not sure if he was just mistaken or knows something about updates. I wasn't about to ask... Gonna hold him to it if there's no price drop tomorrow...

I thought 10G would be PLENTY big - only have about 3G on my G4, but maybe i ought to go bigger for the long haul... NOT 40G big though...

Apple would sell SOOOOO many of these if they lowered the price. I would have bought one when they first came out, but the price is too steep for most people and I still feel guilty about spending that much money - no matter how cool it is or how much I drool.

20G iPods for $200!! C'mon, Apple!!!!! puhleeeeeeeaaaaassssssseeeeee!!!

:)

[Paul Turpin]

ipod updates :

all I really expect :
1. 40gb drive
2. cheaper prices on 10gb and 20gb models
3. iTunes 4
4. AAC audio

what I want and is possible :
1. recording Input OR record capability but only through the firewire port
2. Digital I/O - combine this with #1
3. mLan compatibility - unlikely, but could provide for both #1 and #2
4. built in bluetooth so I can sync iCal and address book without hooking it up

what I want and don't expect at all :
1. Midi control via mLan to trigger audio
2. use of the jog wheel to "scratch" the tracks!
3. handwriting recognition on the new touchscreen so I can add to my address book.
4. a companion white apple mini-dj mixer for all the iPod DJ's out there.

[Sol]

While Forbes is a respectable publication I do not see anything more than speculation in that article. All it tells me is that the rumor sites are expecting the iPod upgrade because they are all aware of the latest Toshiba hard drive updates.

Even bigger iPods would be a little disappointment if no new formats are supported. Considering that Apple created QuickTime I expected that multi-format support would be possible.

Come to think of it, why does Apple use MP3 in iTunes and not something proprietary? All my CDs were ripped with iTunes and I only ever downloaded several files from Napster. It seems to me that there is a lot more that Apple could be doing with the iPod, a thought that must have occurred to them as well if the calendar and contacts functions are any indication.

Hopefully a major firmware update can address these issues before anything like a vPod makes a debut. It would be a nice gimmick to play video in a little screen but MP4 support would mean more files at higher quality for all iPod users.

[Sol]

Someone uses the iPod in the shower?! I hope that iPod has never been mistaken for a bar of soap. Best to check that there are no curlies in the jog wheel.

[thunderchimp]

i-pod schmipod my panties are in a wad

[thunderchimp]

I think that the I-pod is going to have a size bump, and a audio i/o and that's it. NOTHING ELSE!! :p

[vniow]

Originally posted by thunderchimp
i-pod schmipod my panties are in a wad


Yours too?

[ryme4reson]

I dont use it in the shower, I hook it up to the bathroom audio system, and play it while I am in the shower. In fact we are remodeling and I made sure the builders added Cat 5 in ALL rooms, and a mini jack input to the house audio system.

[Mr T]

I think its pretty clear that we will see new iPods this week. Forbes is pretty much an insider source and very pro apple. I don't think the 40 gig will be available but price cuts in the 10 and 20 will take effect. They will be available from apple stores tomorrow and best buy and CompUSA in a few days (apple does favor its own retail outlets).. I do not recommend buying a iPod from Apple stores. They have crap replacement policies. Buy from CompUSA and get a extended warranty (~ $40). European consumers get better replacement warranties because of stricter laws. iPods have very spotty durability and you would be nuts not to get a third party extended warranty. I doubt their will be any major changes but double the capaciity for the same price sounds pretty good.

If you are buying a computer the exact oposite is true - pay more and get it from apple or you will get screwed when trying to get problems resolved when it is still under waranty. Apple will replace items you buy from them but will make you send it in to get fixed if you bought it some where else.


Apple makes great products but they nickel and dime their customers at every turn. You can not trust them to do right by you :)

[Monomni]

By the way... when I was talking to the CompUSA manager yesterday about when they were getting more 10G and 20G ipods (remember, I didn't realize at the time that new ipods were coming out this week)... anyways, he said Weds or Thurs.
No idea if that's the current version or new version, but there's a little contribution to the speculations...
:)

[ebow]

Originally posted by Mr T
I do not recommend buying a iPod from Apple stores. They have crap replacement policies. Buy from CompUSA and get a extended warranty (~ $40).

[snip]

Apple makes great products but they nickel and dime their customers at every turn. You can not trust them to do right by you:)

That doesn't sound much like the experiences of others who have had problems (the ones posted here, at least). While I often get store warranties, I'd hate to do it if Apple is likely to be a good sport about things.

[Mr T]

It is well documented that iPods suffer from battery problems. When the battery stops holding a charge the unit is dead and needs to be sent into apple. This happens a lot and it is rumored that the new iPods will have new batteries from a new vendor and they will be more reliable. In fact, The number one complaint about iPods is the fact that you cannot replace the battery. This would be a huge step forward but is nt expected in this upgrade. The battery failures can happen anytime but typically occur after one year and that is why I recomend CompUSA's extended warranty. You seriously don't have to go far on the internet to find iPod horror stories.

Another rumor site had this info " Apple rumor sites have been abuzz with talk of new iPods shipping within the next month or so, containing Toshiba's new 1.8-inch drives in 20GB, 30GB, and 40GB flavors. Evidently, these drives will help prolong battery life while increasing file-transfer speeds. Rumor also has it that the new breed of iPods will look the same as the old models but will perform better."


Here hoping that Apple gets it right this time around. If you are going to have the balls to charge this much for an MP3 player it should be durable. Not a throw it away after a year product. Apple sucks but Macs rule

[daddy-mojo]

Originally posted by Mr T
It is well documented that iPods suffer from battery problems. When the battery stops holding a charge the unit is dead needs sent into apple. This happens a lot and it is rumored that the new iPods will have new batteries from anew vendor and they will be more reliable. You seriously don't have to go far on the internet to find out about iPod horror stories.

Another rumor site had this info " Apple rumor sites have been abuzz with talk of new iPods shipping within the next month or so, containing Toshiba's new 1.8-inch drives in 20GB, 30GB, and 40GB flavors. Evidently, these drives will help prolong battery life while increasing file-transfer speeds. Rumor also has it that the new breed of iPods will look the same as the old models but will perform better."


Here hoping that Apple gets it right this time around. If you are going to have the balls to charge this much for an MP3 player it should be durable not a throw it away after a year product. Apple sucks but Macs rule


What are you kidding? I've taken PowerMacs & ibooks purchased from the east coast into apple stores in L.A. to be servicied under warranty. It doesn't matter where you buy it from, Apple is responsible. That's why its a factory warranty. As for ipods, if you can extend the warranty thru 3rd party vendor for more then a year then that's great. However, I'm on my second 5 gig ipod in less then a year. When my first started to lose a battery charge and a few other weird things, took it in, they said o.k. lets charge it full, select a playlist with more then 8 hours of time, play, repeat and lock it so it stays on until the battery fails. They wrote down the time it started and said come if it fails under 7 hours. It lasted like 6 or so. Took in, they said o.k. no problem, went to the back pulled out a new replacement (not a refurb, I asked) updated the serial number and sent me on my way. Fairly simply, and this was when the warranty was only 3 months. They key with apple, be cool with them when you go in. Now if you're not in the vicinity of an Apple Store, then this all might take a little more time to resolve.

[Nermal]

Originally posted by g30ffr3y
Sorry, I'm quite new to iTunes, but what's a "checked" library?


in itunes you can uncheck songs you dont want to hear, but they stay in
your library to be turned back on at a later time...

Ah, I'm still not used to Americans (and maybe others) calling a tick a check. In my country, to check something is to verify it.

[Mr T]

"Steve Weinrebe reports an Apple experience that is similar to complaints by resellers who are suing Apple for unfair competition, among other problems:

I wanted to follow up on my 2/13 note about my brand new 12" Aluminum Powerbook, which is at Apple repair getting an entire new case ('upper and lower'). An interesting wrinkle developed today in my dealings with Apple and the reseller in seeking a replacement.
I worked my way up to an Apple Customer Service Rep. who told me that 'if I bought my computer from Apple then Apple would be able to give me a replacement. But because I bought the laptop from the reseller they could not give me a replacement.' She said that 'part of the deal made with the reseller was that for discounted prices to the reseller, there could be no returns to Apple by the reseller.'
I suggested that in the future that would force me to buy Apple computers from Apple directly and she said, 'that's right, if I bought this from Apple I would have gotten a replacement instead of a mandatory repair for this bad a problem.' "

RE: http://macintouch.com/newsrecent.shtml#macreturns


nuff said, Apple does nickel and dime its customers and this won't change until the consumer refuses to put up with it :D

[chewbaccapits]

Today is the 13th day that APPLE last released any upgrade/update to software and hardware. Since, MWSF, about every 13 days something new appears for us!

[zinzin]

But how do you know that the technical info about the new iPod (if there is one).

200 Gb HD and color screen seems to be to much for a battery.
I dont think what u say is true, but if it was i would be marvelous!


:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)


http://www.apple.com
http://www.apple.com/fr

[melchior]

are we starting the countdown?
in 40 minutes it will be 6am cupertino time...

[grimmace]

NOTHING FROM APPLE. No 17" because it's pixie dust and no ipods. Nothing. I think that I'm done with this rumor site until Apple comes out with an update. There is no point sitting here reading comments on stuff that doesnt exist.

[thunderchimp]

I hear ya brother

[deckard]

They're still selling 10GB refurb'd ipods at the special deals store.

[Sol]

In that case you better avoid Forbes magazine from now on too. By the way, isn't it too early now for the expected announcement? I would give it another 2-3 hours.

[cliffm]

Usually the Apple store is down by now if there is an update..

[sparks9]

Originally posted by cliffm
Usually the Apple store is down by now if there is an update..

...next tuesday it is then

[cliffm]

Isn't that what was said last tuesday?

..and the tuesday before? ;) ;)

[melchior]

maybe they'll do something tricky like announce at 1pm

[mangoman]

...or maybe we'll all look like a bunch of suckahs next week, too. I'm outta here...

[arn]

Hey all,

In general, you should take all rumors with a grain of salt... especially thses - as most of the iPod rumors are "Page 2" rumors - in that they are from sites/sources of unknown reliability and may simply reflect much speculaiton.

ThinkSecret, which generally is relatively accurate did post expectations of upgrades "soon"... but it's always possible they were influenced by the buzz.

arn

[mangoman]

True...True...

(adjusting attitude.. a little)

[sparks9]

Originally posted by mangoman
True...True...

(adjusting attitude.. a little)

I thought you were out of here? :rolleyes: :D

[melchior]

i guess he just couldn't stay away....

[g30ffr3y]

another week another disappointment... i shouldve bought a 20gig three months ago... oh well... next week... right...

[mangoman]

(sigh) yep, next week. SUCKAHS!! :D

[cliffm]

I recieved a new 20 gig a few weeks ago. I don't regret making the purchase at all, even if they do eventually upgrade them. Its been playing almost non stop since I got it :D

[Anne]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Okay, I'm still baffled at how they can keep their lowest priced (i.e. most affordable) item out of stock so long without even giving us a stupid update so they can lower the price. I've found rumors to be unreliable, but the only reason I keep hope up is that I think that Apple can't be so silly as to do this, and every week they are. Not everybody out there can afford to spend $400 or $500 on a luxury item.

Oh, and I'm mostly post this because according to Murphy's Law as soon as I publicly show my disgust at this 5gb fiasco, there will be an update to make me look stupid and petty.

... right? :rolleyes:

[mangoman]

on all points: RIGHT! :p

[melchior]

for a wook or so now, the apple website has been really slow for me... in fact it times out 50% of the time. does anyone else experience this? before it started apple probably had one of the fastest servers around.

[shakespeare]

Originally posted by melchior
for a wook or so now, the apple website has been really slow for me... in fact it times out 50% of the time. does anyone else experience this? before it started apple probably had one of the fastest servers around.

Yes, I've noticed this as well. Either it loads immediately for me, or it will time out. I thought that was very odd.

[vanillamike]

I don't get it!!!!!

Why won't apple just commit to a March 14th stocking date and just release the info about the new iPods, at least they would save some face on the whole 5GB mess. I guess the March 14th release date is looking to be right. There better be one hell of a revision coming if there is a need to clear out the current 10GB iPods from the supply chain.

Mike

[ceb]

Well, Apple had the opportunity to make a new customer out of me. I have been following this for quite a while now, waiting to get a new iPod. But all of this bull is making me go out this weekend and buy a Creative or an Archos or the cool new silver Toshiba. Apple definitely dropped the ball on this one.

[mangoman]

If you really are gonna bolt in disgust, I'd consider one thing: feature for feature, the iPods, whether current models or future revisions, will blow the doors off the competition.

As frustrated as I am with Apple's Code Of Silence B.S., I'm gonna wait. (shaking head) I don't know why I'm so damn loyal sometimes, but I'll wait. All this clandestine crap just pisses me off.

Well, Apple? Say something fercryinoutloud!

[ahe]

I can surely understand you... I have been anticipanting my iPod for several months, and when I tried to buy it, the folks at Apple told me I had to wait a month and a half...

... This is very very disappointing for a customer, even more when it is a new customer (my case). All in all, it's not a serious position for a respectable company. What other products do you have to wait 6 weeks for? For God's sake, it's not a customised Lamborghini what we're trying to buy!!! It's just an MP3 player...

... You know, each day that Apple maintains the message about the 5 Gig iPods they give a worse impression. It's just laughable... What holidays were they, then? Thanksgiving, Xmas or Easter?

(Anyway, now that I have spent sooo long waiting for new iPods, I'm not gonna get an Archos or Nomad. I just hope I have one before Easter. All this makes me sick... Will they be banning us from buying iPods? No new units and no stock of the old ones... ahhh I am desperate)

[mangoman]

Originally posted by ahe
... You know, each day that Apple maintains the message about the 5 Gig iPods they give a worse impression. It's just laughable... What holidays were they, then? Thanksgiving, Xmas or Easter?

Good one! :D No chit, man. Nooooo chit.

(Answer that one, Apple!)

[menoinjun]

You guys may want to rethink going out and wasting (yes wasting) money on an Archos or Creative device. Why go out and spend money seemingly before a product will be released? That just doesn't make sense. Yes, Apple seems to be struggling with the iPod, and yes it's very frustrating. But that's no reason to go out and get some inferior product. (yes, they may have more "crap" features, but the iPod is just incredible...and this is before they update it!!)Patience is a virtue. Hold on a little longer, and you will be more satisfied in the end!! I'm sure the new iPod will rock, and wouldn't it be better to have one of those vs. an inferior Creative Jukebox or Archos product?

If you decide to get theose other products fine...but don't come bitching when Apple does release a KICKIN' iPod!!

[nodmonkey]

So what's the beef with the emphasis on march 14th being THE release date? Isn't march 14th the predicted date for iTunes 4 or something? It would make sense for iTunes 4 and the updated iPods to come out together so that updates in one could be supported in the other.

Wasn't iTunes 2 mainly an iPod-friendly update? So maybe that's what iTunes 4 will be and that's why we have to wait for the combo release date. I'm thinking AAC, here.

[mangoman]

"...and they're off!"

(wild speculation continues)

[ceb]

I am a potential new customer for Apple, and therefore I have no product loyalty issues at this point. I would love an iPod, I was ready to buy one weeks ago, last week, today, etc., but I have no problem going out and getting an "inferior" device after this negative marketing move (Product Placement and Price actually) by Apple.. The Creative Zen and Archos for example, have 20GB as opposed to the 5 or 10 I would get from the iPod for the price. Look at CNET's mp3 Insider article, titled "iPod Killers Coming Soon," reviewing the upcoming mp3 players that will pose a serious challenge to Apple.

http://electronics.cnet.com/electronics/0-3219397-8-20851455-1.html

I have been waiting long enough where if I'm going to wait any longer, I would just wait for these new products to come out and put them in the running.

[timbloom]

What is with all this whining? Apple is a great company, but your comments in a forum aren't going to make them rush a product to the market that isn't ready yet.
Keep in mind the 40GB drives just were released a few weeks ago. You can't expect Apple to announce a 40GB the next day, they have to recieve products, create prototypes, work out any issues that may arise. Then order batches of these things, have them assembled, then have them tested, packaged, and shipped in enough quanitity.
Would you rather have a buggy product sooner, or a better product later? Don't get your panties in a bunch.

[mangoman]

My panties have been stuck in my crusty crack since these iPod rumors started several weeks ago. And if anybody can move and shake something to market quicker than the average bear, it's ol' Apple.

Better versus Buggy? Well, ya got me there. I'll take Better.

[DeusOmnis]

Originally posted by ceb
I am a potential new customer for Apple, and therefore I have no product loyalty issues at this point. I would love an iPod, I was ready to buy one weeks ago, last week, today, etc., but I have no problem going out and getting an "inferior" device after this negative marketing move (Product Placement and Price actually) by Apple.. The Creative Zen and Archos for example, have 20GB as opposed to the 5 or 10 I would get from the iPod for the price. Look at CNET's mp3 Insider article, titled "iPod Killers Coming Soon," reviewing the upcoming mp3 players that will pose a serious challenge to Apple.

http://electronics.cnet.com/electronics/0-3219397-8-20851455-1.html

I have been waiting long enough where if I'm going to wait any longer, I would just wait for these new products to come out and put them in the running.


They wrote that the biggest ipod killer was the new ipods, lol. Why dont you wait for that like everyone else is? Besides, I'm waiting for the PDA version of the iPod, that will REALLY destroy the competition.

[DeusOmnis]

Originally posted by timbloom
What is with all this whining? Apple is a great company, but your comments in a forum aren't going to make them rush a product to the market that isn't ready yet.
Keep in mind the 40GB drives just were released a few weeks ago. You can't expect Apple to announce a 40GB the next day, they have to recieve products, create prototypes, work out any issues that may arise. Then order batches of these things, have them assembled, then have them tested, packaged, and shipped in enough quanitity.
Would you rather have a buggy product sooner, or a better product later? Don't get your panties in a bunch.


Apple should have been working w/ toshiba from the start, not to mention that the hard drives are the same design.

[greenfruit]

everyone whose considering an archios or MD or whatever, go and buy them NOW!!

because you can be sure that as soon as you sign your name on your credit card reciept, Apple will release new ipods, and i want a new one!

[pauld]

how about tomorrow's poll -

"Are you totally ******** off with all this iPod hype?"

check.

[MorganX]

Originally posted by DeusOmnis
Apple should have been working w/ toshiba from the start, not to mention that the hard drives are the same design.

Since Toshiba provides the HDs and is not a direct competitor with the iPod, maybe Apple has to wait in line for product. Who knows..

I do think Apple should provide a software update, if there's going to be one, whether or not new iPods are available.

[matty8r]

I'd just like to see the article where APPLE promised us new iPods on February 25th. A lot of you folks here are behaving as though Apple has somehow let you down. Listen, I go to the rumors sites just like everyone else, and it's exciting to think we have information before the rest of the world, that we know "apple's secret plans". But the fact is, Apple is not beholden to any rumors site to release any product, however disappointed we are. I think we just need to take a step back, breath a little, and take the rumors for exactly what they are. :rolleyes:

[Foxer]

Hey... I just called the 1-800 Apple store to check on my PowerMac dual 1.4 (since my card was charged yesterday, I am hoping there is movement on the order. Anyone have an idea on that one.) Well, the recording says that "Due to a local emergency, we are closed." Could this be affecting website updates as well?

[mangoman]

To matty8r:

Pipe down with that logical speak, mister! This is a friggin' RUMORS site, driven by wild emotion and fanatical devotion! Save that rational commentary for somewhere else!

(jus' kiddin', buddy ;) )

[Kid Red]

Originally posted by Nermal
Ah, I'm still not used to Americans (and maybe others) calling a tick a check. In my country, to check something is to verify it.

Yes, you are verifying that iTunes will play it or not. It's a 'Check Mark'. You check something if that item is to be used or included.

[mangoman]

Originally posted by Foxer
Well, the recording says that "Due to a local emergency, we are closed." Could this be affecting website updates as well?

Oh Shat. We're about to go Big Live Fully on even MORE Bizarre, Insane, Unfounded Calamitous Speculation.

GO, CATS, GO!

[greenfruit]

unfortunately apple seem to have broken this since itunes 2.

I used to be able to uncheck a track and it would either remove it from my ipod or not copy it. Now however it doesnt make any difference.

Ive even unchecked, set custom ipod, deleted the tracks from the ipod then put back to auto update, but it still insists on copying unchecked tracks to my ipod.

[senjaz]

Originally posted by Nermal
Ah, I'm still not used to Americans (and maybe others) calling a tick a check. In my country, to check something is to verify it.

<anti-american rant>
You could put this down to yet another annoying Americanism but it has some founding logic from check lists (twisted logic but logic non the less). Where you would run down the list of items and tick them off once done/checked.

Ticked implies checked, but to Americans ticked equals checked. If you were to apply the same logic to our favourite fruit then all green fruit (and possibly all red fruit as well) would be Apples, even if they were pears or mellons, by American logic they're all Apples.

Don't get me started on the way they write dates.
</anti-american rant>

A more accurate name for the control would be a switch. Also not forgetting that old versions of both Mac OS and Windows used to put crosses in these boxes.

[Foxer]

Originally posted by senjaz
Ticked implies checked, but to Americans ticked equals checked.


May I propose that it is more accurate to say that "check" is simply an abbreviated way to say "checkmark," which may also be an American term. I don't recall ever saying "check" myself, but do call the symbol a "checkmark."

[os10geek]

Macwhispers.com was stupid enough to make a confident guess of the iPod to be released today. Their reputation as a rumor site is permanantly scarred now. What idiots.

[Flowbee]

I bought my iPod in November. The rumor sites were already buzzing with Macworld update rumors. If I had decided to wait, I'd still be waiting.

There are 10 and 20 GB iPods are available *now*. Go get one. Believe me, having an iPod is much more fun than waiting for one.

[vitrector]

Originally posted by greenfruit
unfortunately apple seem to have broken this since itunes 2.

I used to be able to uncheck a track and it would either remove it from my ipod or not copy it. Now however it doesnt make any difference.

Ive even unchecked, set custom ipod, deleted the tracks from the ipod then put back to auto update, but it still insists on copying unchecked tracks to my ipod.

You know, you have to uncheck the songs both in the main library and on any playlist they are listed in to not have them transfer. I got a bunch of songs to stop transfering after figuring this out and unchecking them on the play lists as well.
This is obviously a poorly thought thru situation...

[greenfruit]

vitrector - yep cheers, i heard about that and frankly you shouldnt have to do that, if its unchecked in the main playlist it should automagically apply to all others, and besides im too lazy to search my playlists and uncheck everysong.

Besides, when i get my 20gig ipod itll nolonger be a problem, maybe thats apples evil plan. ;-)

[Masker]

Originally posted by senjaz
<anti-american rant>
You could put this down to yet another annoying Americanism but it has some founding logic from check lists (twisted logic but logic non the less). Where you would run down the list of items and tick them off once done/checked.

Ticked implies checked, but to Americans ticked equals checked. If you were to apply the same logic to our favourite fruit then all green fruit (and possibly all red fruit as well) would be Apples, even if they were pears or mellons, by American logic they're all Apples.

Don't get me started on the way they write dates.
</anti-american rant>

A more accurate name for the control would be a switch. Also not forgetting that old versions of both Mac OS and Windows used to put crosses in these boxes.

That's really quite obnoxious of you. The control is a checkbox, not a switch. It's a checkbox because when you activate it, it puts a checkmark in there. While you may call it a tick, or tickmark, or call the action 'ticking', other people do not. Also, the developers (or their bosses) were probably American, thus choosing an American word for the control. I don't ask you to use words that you don't use, and I kind of expect that I can use the words that I use. There's nothing better or worse about either word; they are different, but both arbitrary groups of letters of phonemes to describe something.

It's pretty amazing that you would get your panties up in a bunch because an operating system written in the US would use *gasp* an American word for something! Amazing. :rolleyes: My suggestion to you would be to find something important to rant about.

[c2kvette]

I just contacted MacMall.com and the sales associate told me that they are completely out of 5GB and 10GB iPods and have only a handfull of 20GB ones available. I asked him is this because Apple will be releasing new iPods soon - he said that could be the case, although he didn't know when they may be getting any in.

[bennetsaysargh]

what time are updates usually announced in new york time?
i am only $75 away from the current 10GB with tax and hoping for pricedrops at least,
and i woul absolutly want
1)FM Reciever
2)Maybe another game (because hard as it migh sound to believe, breakout kinda gets boring after a while)

but mostly, a fix to the muchly talked about battery problem. what makes the problem is the clock. they just need to find a way to make the clock take up less battery life.

and of course, iTunes 4 with AAC capabilities
but no one listens to me because i'm only 13 with my birthday in 13 days.

[jamilecrire]

Someone
__________________
22" Cinema Display, G4 933 1.25GIG Ram, Superdrive, Sound Sticks
Powerbook 800



In an unrelated question, why all the pissing contest sigs? I mean really wtf is the point of listing the bullsht you have? Well here's my contribution.

G4 QS Tower 733, 22" ACD, Small speakers?, 512MB RAM, 40GB HD, CD-RW OS X.2, OS 9.2.2

G3 (Beige) 333MHz, 192MB, 6GB HD, CDR, 19" Viewsonic Monitor (KVM)

Sun Ultra 10 SPARC IIi 360MHz (64bit), Solaris 8, 512MB RAM, 18.2GB HD (x2), CD-ROM, 19" Viewsonic Monitor (KVM)

Dual Pentium III 933, 1GB RAM, RAID 0 (2x) 60GB HD, Geforce 4 Ti4200 (64MB), Digital 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers (KVM), Win2000, 19" Viewsonic Monitor (KVM)

Athlon XP 2000+, 512MB DDR PC2700, RAID 0 (2x) 80GB 8MB Cache HDD, Geforce 4 Ti 4600 128MB, Digital 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers (KVM), Windows XP, 19" Viewsonic Monitor (KVM)

Athlon XP 1500+, 256MB DDR PC2100, 40GB HD, Geforce 2 MX 32MB, Digital 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers (KVM), Redhat 7.3, 19" Viewsonic Monitor (KVM)

Dell Inspiron 8100, Pentium III 1130, 512MB PC133, 40GB HD, Geforce 2 Go 32MB (DDR), DVD/CDRW, 15" UXGA Screen, WinXP/RedHat 7.3 Dual Boot

(I've got more but this is getting crazy)

I'm buying a Powerbook when the new 15" models come out, the 17" is too large (although sweet).

Oh I've got a Belkin KVM that does audio as well as the keyboard, video and mouse. I actually hook up my 19" to the apple as well so my desktop spans my 22" Cinema to my 19" Viewsonic (same height different width). Kind of cool. The funny thing was when I setup the 22" I just forgot to unplug the 19" and I use my KVM for the display only on my mac (before buying the ACD).

I love being a software engineer.

[Dignan]

Quite the ironic post. Thank you.

[Monomni]

Just called the local Apple store... yes, they have current ipods in stock. Asked about updates coming out today - and the guy claimed ignorance. But... when I told him about my LOW CompUSA quote he was surprised (ie - maybe no price drop coming?) and then he said... "well wait a couple of days, rumors are sometimes true"
Hint? You decide...
:confused:

[senjaz]

Originally posted by jamilecrire
In an unrelated question, why all the pissing contest sigs? I mean really wtf is the point of listing the bullsht you have? Well here's my contribution.

<snip one rather long list of hardware>

I love being a software engineer.

All that and no iPod?

Why don't you sell one of your PCs and buy one ;)

[mangoman]

OH YEAH, Punk? Here's what I'VE got:

A big case o' the ass over Apple being so secretive about everything.

So THERE!

[jamilecrire]

Originally posted by senjaz
All that and no iPod?

Why don't you sell one of your PCs and buy one ;)

I only listen to music while at work (sports radio in the car or NPR). I have all my music in mp3's on my work computer (not shared) and on CD at my house.

I wish Ferrari's weren't so expensive. Modena is my next car (in otherword's I'll be driving the same car for a VERY long time).

[c2kvette]

Man!! This bites!! I was really hoping they would be out today. I'm going to West Virginia on a snow skiing trip Saturday and wanted to take it with me.

My luck they will come out next Tuesday.

[ceb]

I like the signature "pissing contest" post. However, the most ridiculous signature I have seen on these forums is from DavPeanut. The signature says "9th grader, 800 on SAT Math (in 8th Grade)."

Now, I know this kid is too young to know it yet, but numbers do not mean a thing in the grand scheme. My academic numbers have always been very good (graduated from a highly ranked business undergrad program, obtained a lucrative professional position, now attending graduate school), but you don't see me posting them at the end of every post I put on a message board (that minor tidbit about my background is hopefully the most I will ever write about it).

Unless you can develop valuable marketable skills, such as the ability to conduct yourself professionally and network effectively, then an 800 on your SAT Math plus $300 bucks will get you a 5GB iPod (or 10GB if this stupid rumor ever comes to be).

Sorry to get so far off topic, but that signature has been annoying me whenever I see it.

[g30ffr3y]

In an unrelated question, why all the pissing contest sigs? I mean really wtf is the point of listing the bullsht you have? Well here's my contribution.


what do you want a freaking medal... we all are just proud of our macs... i dont have a laundry list of my crappy pc's in my sig, just my 2 super duper wonderful macs!!! so piss off eh...

[jamilecrire]

Originally posted by ceb
I like the signature "pissing contest" post. However, the most ridiculous signature I have seen on these forums is from DavPeanut. The signature says "9th grader, 800 on SAT Math (in 8th Grade)."

Now, I know this kid is too young to know it yet, but numbers do not mean a thing in the grand scheme. My academic numbers have always been very good (graduated from a highly ranked business undergrad program, obtained a lucrative professional position, now attending graduate school), but you don't see me posting them at the end of every post I put on a message board (that minor tidbit about my background is hopefully the most I will ever write about it).

Unless you can develop valuable marketable skills, such as the ability to conduct yourself professionally and network effectively, then an 800 on your SAT Math plus $300 bucks will get you a 5GB iPod (or 10GB if this stupid rumor ever comes to be).

Sorry to get so far off topic, but that signature has been annoying me whenever I see it.

That was my point. Plus as you can see my pee-pee is very small by my hardware list. Fortunately my wife doesn't seem to care! I guess making 250k/year in oklahoma keeps her happy?!?! My High School GPA 1.7 (I got a 31 on the ACT), my College GPA 2.87 (Failed every class my partying first 2 semesters - damn you hot college girls!!!).

In the end nothing (material) matters. Not your hardware, income, cars, houses, or anything else. All that matters is your friends and you are a Mac user. Everything else is just a waste of effort (except the Ferrari).

[Timothy]

MacWhispers has posted a note on their website that they are officially leaving the rumors game. And, to think, they were one of the originators of much of this "imminent release of iPods" buzz...

Chalk one up for the veterans of this site for calling for patience absent any substantial rumors. Let this entire last month of iPod speculation be a lesson regarding the future of Apple releases.

[iwantanewmac]

Originally posted by jamilecrire
In an unrelated question, why all the pissing contest sigs? I mean really wtf is the point of listing the bullsht you have? Well here's my contribution.

G4 QS Tower 733, 22" ACD, Small speakers?, 512MB RAM, 40GB HD, CD-RW OS X.2, OS 9.2.2

G3 (Beige) 333MHz, 192MB, 6GB HD, CDR, 19" Viewsonic Monitor (KVM)

Sun Ultra 10 SPARC IIi 360MHz (64bit), Solaris 8, 512MB RAM, 18.2GB HD (x2), CD-ROM, 19" Viewsonic Monitor (KVM)

Dual Pentium III 933, 1GB RAM, RAID 0 (2x) 60GB HD, Geforce 4 Ti4200 (64MB), Digital 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers (KVM), Win2000, 19" Viewsonic Monitor (KVM)

Athlon XP 2000+, 512MB DDR PC2700, RAID 0 (2x) 80GB 8MB Cache HDD, Geforce 4 Ti 4600 128MB, Digital 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers (KVM), Windows XP, 19" Viewsonic Monitor (KVM)

Athlon XP 1500+, 256MB DDR PC2100, 40GB HD, Geforce 2 MX 32MB, Digital 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers (KVM), Redhat 7.3, 19" Viewsonic Monitor (KVM)

Dell Inspiron 8100, Pentium III 1130, 512MB PC133, 40GB HD, Geforce 2 Go 32MB (DDR), DVD/CDRW, 15" UXGA Screen, WinXP/RedHat 7.3 Dual Boot

(I've got more but this is getting crazy)

I'm buying a Powerbook when the new 15" models come out, the 17" is too large (although sweet).

Oh I've got a Belkin KVM that does audio as well as the keyboard, video and mouse. I actually hook up my 19" to the apple as well so my desktop spans my 22" Cinema to my 19" Viewsonic (same height different width). Kind of cool. The funny thing was when I setup the 22" I just forgot to unplug the 19" and I use my KVM for the display only on my mac (before buying the ACD).

I love being a software engineer.


Is that ALL you got?.......pfffffffff

[digitalgiant]

Thats not to say all switchers get on my nevers,,,just a few of them:rolleyes:

[Flowbee]

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh

i am only $75 away from the current 10GB with tax and hoping for pricedrops at least,


Apple store online has refurb. 10gig iPods on sale for $329. Click on 'special deals' at the bottom of the Apple Store page.

[DavPeanut]

Originally posted by ceb
I like the signature "pissing contest" post. However, the most ridiculous signature I have seen on these forums is from DavPeanut. The signature says "9th grader, 800 on SAT Math (in 8th Grade)."

Sorry to get so far off topic, but that signature has been annoying me whenever I see it.
I don't have anything else to put, and when people are agruing over the answer to a math problem, they believe what I post.

You said that if I can do something that makes money, its important. Just so you know, I'm about to start a wireless ISP. :p

[deepkid]

This is one of the best sites on the web. Its superb for helping to bring about clarity.

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ru·mor
n.

1. A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth.

2. Unverified information received from another; hearsay.

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This is just in case some of you felt a bit befuddled about what the 'rumor' in rumor sites meant. :p

[jamilecrire]

Originally posted by deepkid
This is one of the best sites on the web. Its superb for helping to bring about clarity.

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ru·mor
n.

1. A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth.

2. Unverified information received from another; hearsay.

-----

This is just in case some of you felt a bit befuddled about what the 'rumor' in rumor sites meant. :p

boobie
n.

1. Either of two milk-secreting, glandular organs on the chest of a woman; the human mammary gland.
2. Something a MacRumors reader will never see (unless female).

[AlexandrWolf]

Originally posted by ceb
I like the signature "pissing contest" post. However, the most ridiculous signature I have seen on these forums is from DavPeanut. The signature says "9th grader, 800 on SAT Math (in 8th Grade)."

Now, I know this kid is too young to know it yet, but numbers do not mean a thing in the grand scheme. My academic numbers have always been very good (graduated from a highly ranked business undergrad program, obtained a lucrative professional position, now attending graduate school), but you don't see me posting them at the end of every post I put on a message board (that minor tidbit about my background is hopefully the most I will ever write about it).

Unless you can develop valuable marketable skills, such as the ability to conduct yourself professionally and network effectively, then an 800 on your SAT Math plus $300 bucks will get you a 5GB iPod (or 10GB if this stupid rumor ever comes to be).

Sorry to get so far off topic, but that signature has been annoying me whenever I see it.

Thank you for that post, I have wanted to say that for a while now.

Why should anyone really care about your SAT math score? I mean, this is not the Mensa message board. Why don't you put your IQ score in the sig :rolleyes: ? I'm also in high school and even I know you don't brag about this in such a forum. It is just tacky and without class.

iPod wise - I think it has to be any day now until new updates. I'll be the first to buy a new 10 gig (or maybe even 20).

[deepkid]

Originally posted by jamilecrire
boobie
n.

1. Either of two milk-secreting, glandular organs on the chest of a woman; the human mammary gland.
2. Something a MacRumors reader will never see (unless female).

Some of us might just like our own (who are not female). ;)

[Wry Cooter]

Some rainman said "Tuesday, definately Tuesday" for iPod updates happening on Feb 18. That was repeated again for the 25th. I was actually surprised how prevalent the attitude, "Yes Tuesday" has been throughout this thread. Why?

Maybe Apple is planting false release dates, to track leaks, and make all such prognostication based on whatever data, totally unreliable.

My tendancy has been, even when an item has been officially announced, not believe it until I see it (although I might pre-order).

[.a]

how much are taxes in usa? i try to get an ipod when i visit the states.
please post your info
.a swiss guy

[theranch]

I had this up last week but recently relisted and dropped the price. Great buy for a 4month old 20gb iPod.
edit: removed url to ebay...sold it to a friend

I need a new firewire 120gb drive and ram so I need to get rid of a toy...my wife also has a 20gb iPod so we won't be totally without.

[Wry Cooter]

Originally posted by .a
how much are taxes in usa? i try to get an ipod when i visit the states.
please post your info
.a swiss guy

Sales tax varies by locale, up to 10% is common. You may miss out on warranty and localization for Switzerland on your iPod if so, and there may be some sort of import duty taking it back home.

[dstorey]

Originally posted by jamilecrire


G4 QS Tower 733, 22" ACD, Small speakers?, 512MB RAM, 40GB HD, CD-RW OS X.2, OS 9.2.2

G3 (Beige) 333MHz, 192MB, 6GB HD, CDR, 19" Viewsonic Monitor (KVM)

etc etc

I'm buying a Powerbook when the new 15" models come out, the 17" is too large (although sweet).


I love being a software engineer.

do you fold for team macrumors? you should ;-) put them processors to work

[Digidesign]

I agree that some signatures may be annoying, but I'd encourage you to accept people for who they are - even for who they think themselves to be from their sigs. You meet a lot of people who value different things... the challenge is, can you show them something more valuable so they'd learn not to boast in little things?

On the flipside, sometimes a sig can come in handy when people are troubleshooting a problem, and your answers/advice coincide with specific hardware that they're interested in (for example, I have people asking about my MOTU 896 a lot - as for the 3 chords and the truth, well, no one seems to give a damn about that :) )

[melchior]

all of apple's portable devices have worldwide warranty.

i don't know about desktops...

[skunk]

Originally posted by Digidesign
- as for the 3 chords and the truth, well, no one seems to give a damn about that :) )
Sounds like any number of Dylan songs :cool:

[Savona]

I DID IT!

I can't stand this rumor BS anylonger. So I just bought a 20GB on bestbuy.com. If new ipods come out in the next 30 days I can exchange mine for a new one. 30 days is a pretty good window. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, wether new ones come out or not, the ipod, new or old, is still the best damn MP3 player out there. I dont care what anyone says about features on other products. the iPod was made to play MP3. And that it does well!

So tomorrow when I wake up, I wont rush to my computer and check the apple splash page, I will relax:rolleyes:

[ThomasJefferson]

Dear Steve J.
Please cough-up the ipods. You see, new products released after a war starts - kinda tacky, don'cha think.
Seize the day, Steve ..

[zac4mac]

I'm really starting to enjoy this site. Not as much hostility as MacNN, but close. Nice doses of sanity and humor added liberally.
As to sigs, I prefer a small, visual sig, not text; but it works if you have a favorite cliché.

So - is the consensus that iPods will get refreshed next Tuesday? heheh
Heck, somebody's jazzed about 10.2.4 Server being released this week, I know there's gotta be a few.

Z

[melchior]

all this fuss over ipod's.... yes i have been waiting since before christmas and i do wish that apple would release sooner rather than later.

however i would never buy an apple product at the end of it's lifecycle. just stupid.

is patience such a foreign element these days?

[zach]

Originally posted by Savona
I DID IT!

I can't stand this rumor BS anylonger. So I just bought a 20GB on bestbuy.com. If new ipods come out in the next 30 days I can exchange mine for a new one. 30 days is a pretty good window. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, wether new ones come out or not, the ipod, new or old, is still the best damn MP3 player out there. I dont care what anyone says about features on other products. the iPod was made to play MP3. And that it does well!

So tomorrow when I wake up, I wont rush to my computer and check the apple splash page, I will relax:rolleyes:

You made the right decision, man. I remeber when i got my ipod, and i thought, this will be fun, but i doubt it will be much better than my cd player...... that was 4 months ago, and i dont think i have let go of my ipod yet.

But seriously, when is apple going to release something new? We have had rumors of tablets, 15" powerbooks, ipods etc. forever!

I hope apple gets off of their ass and releases something new, because the last thing i got from them (os 10.2.4) has been less than stellar......

[merciful]

Dropped into my dealer today to get printer ink and bug them about the new 'Pods - was told that the old ones were EOL-ed at the end of last week.

Patience, patience.

[damax452]

Mmmk, heres my idea on when Ipods may be updated:

With the current Apple special on 10GB iPods, i think that an update will occur after March 14th. Why would they run a special deal on a product then update the product during that special? Doesn't make sense to me. Also, maybe they are only offering the deal on 10gb because they are discontinuing 10giggers? Maybe they will release a 20g/30g/40g line. However, I have my heart set on a 10gb, i hope they do 10/20/40 with the current price scheme. So with that said, my prediction is an update on Tuesday, March 18. I could be wrong (probably am), but that sounds like a plan to me.

[evilbert420]

Went to my local CompUSAs (Seattle) today. Out of stock on all the iPods. From what I've read on the net for the past few weeks, this is common all over the US.

I don't see Apple blowing 3-4 weeks of sales just to line up with a targeted marketing promo. Mid-march is too far away.. not having iPods for sale in retail for a month would seriously impact Apple's quarterlies, no? Why would Apple do that with their most impressive, well-known product of this decade (so far?).

I bet we get new iPods (or new pricing) any day now. My vote is for updates to come on any day BUT tuesdays, just to throw us off.

Picked up an iPod Monster car charger in anticipation... pretty sweet.

[Anne]

Originally posted by merciful
Dropped into my dealer today to get printer ink and bug them about the new 'Pods - was told that the old ones were EOL-ed at the end of last week.

Patience, patience.

what is EOL?
:confused:

[thunderchimp]

the 5 gig is disco. and the 10 gig is at this point current and in stock but in low numbers they have just arived. the 20 gig is listed as current but none to be seen. :(

[Giaguara]

hey.

everybody was freaking here in december that in MWSF there were going to be the new ipods.

now every monday i see in every other mac board big rumors about the new releases, ipods or something else that you are predicting here.

now it has been 3 or 4 weeks that the new ipods were going to be released next tuesday.


wait for MWNY and you will see something new. :p

[d46799]

I have it on good authority from a friend of mine whose dad's boss used to work as a contractor at one of apple's suppliers that the new iPods are coming out tomorrow!

EOL means End-Of-Line?

[deckard]

EOL - End of Life

[mangoman]

Originally posted by d46799
I have it on good authority from a friend of mine whose dad's boss used to work as a contractor at one of apple's suppliers that the new iPods are coming out tomorrow!

Sorry, kiddo, but these are the type of comments that have become comical in the past few weeks...Here's my stab at it:

My cousin knows this guy who farted next to a woman who used to jog with a guy who met Steve Jobs in 1974 as they were passing a joint -- and HE says that tomorrow Apple will release a video iPod with an automatic ass wiper!

[Paul Turpin]

Is it TOMORROW yet?!??!?!:D :confused:

[evilbert420]

Nope. Wait until tomorrow.

[mangoman]

Exactly...

[dstorey]

Originally posted by Paul Turpin
Is it TOMORROW yet?!??!?!:D :confused:

nope, tommorrow never comes, its always tomorrow. ;-)

[g30ffr3y]

tomorrow will never come when it comes to ipods... damn... but seriously i was at my local wal-mart and they said that tomorrow they will exclusively have 40 gig ipods even before the apple splash page is updated... no really, its a big marketing deal they have to get high technology into the hands of stupid rednecks before well, better people...


if sarcasm was a colour it would be orange...

[Wry Cooter]

I was presenting at the Grammys and got my 40 gig in the gift basket. Where were you?

[d46799]

Anybody else gettin' tired of looking at Xserve boxes? I need some iPod relief pronto.

By the way, i heard new iPods are coming tomorrow. This time its 4 reeel!

[mangoman]

I was presenting at the Grammys and got my 40 gig in the gift basket. Where were you?

Uhh, the real question is, WHO are you? Spill, baby, spill, baby, 1-2-3!

[melchior]

i heard there will be an ipod update sometime in 2004. reliable source!

[mangoman]

LOL

[KLFloyd]

OK, I'm a little confused, I must have fallen off the face of th earth for a few hours...

What's with all the iPod on Thursday rumors?

Any basis in fact or is this just a bunch of talk?

[mangoman]

Pure babble, Katie. Nothing but jaw-jackin'.

[Nitro230ft]

Uhh...G homie, according to Walmart.com, Walmart doesn't sell iPods. I called The Apple Store a long time ago, maybe 4 hours ago, and they said they only have 10 and 20 gigs And I went to Bestbuy and they had one 10gb and one 20gb. I doubt new iPods will come out tomorrow. BUT IF THEY DO....GREAT! If they don't, I'm going to buy a refurbished 10gb. -tomorrow

[g30ffr3y]

n-dog... thats why i said orange is for sarcasm!!! im aquainted with the fact that whitetrash-mart doesnt sell anything but cheap cough syrup and stale pretzels to the trailer park kids... mac users shop at target...

[job]

Originally posted by g30ffr3y
mac users shop at target...

but own stock in wal-mart. ;)

[Wry Cooter]

DAMN! Both Walmart and Target are already sold out of the new 40 gig iPod!

[MOFS]

With all of these rumours re iPhones being a sort of extension of the iPod and, more importantly, Apple branded, a lot of people seemed to have overlooked a very obvious fact.

That Motorola already make mobile phones!

If Apple were to make their own phones, they would be in direct competition with its main processor suppliers! Therefore, the logical solution has to be an Apple branded Motorola made phone. This would surely be titanium (at least in colour) and would definitely include Bluetooth, otherwise there's no point.

I thought of the idea for an iPhone a few years ago. The idea was based around an iMac having a TV tuner and an infra-red port. The phone would hae acted as both a remote for the iMac's TV tuner and iTunes, and as a mobile contacts system via a USB port. The creme de la creme would have been a touchpad screen on the phone that would double up as a mouse. Now that Bluetooth is out, these would be so much easier to implement, and link in with Apple's iLife fantastically. I want one now!

[c2kvette]

Well, Thursday passes and no new iPods. I give up!

[nodmonkey]

the thursday prediction was a joke, i believe. no need to get upset about its innacuracy!

however, i think we may be waiting until april for a new ipod and itunes (they just have to be released together to support each other's new features; whatever they might be ;) )

[RLB]

Today Apple updated the ipod section. The 5gb are now unavailable due to significant demand, not holiday demand. Do you think this means anything?

[nodmonkey]

Originally posted by RLB
Today Apple updated the ipod section. The 5gb are now unavailable due to significant demand, not holiday demand. Do you think this means anything?

First, holiday demand depleted Apple's stock of 5gb iPods to none. Then, sustained demand for these unavailable iPods peeved them off so much that now they won't make any more until we stop demanding them so rudely (and significantly)!! :p

We should start asking politely for some 5gb iPods, and not demand them. Apple is trying to retain some respectable etiquette in our greedy consumer society.

[erik1975]

It seems that when they removed the word holiday they also inadvertantly removed some other html tags in the ipod webpage. Maybe I'm crazy, but the section below 'iPod Corporate Gifts' is not formatted like it was.

Needless to say I'll be happy to visit this page when the 40 gig comes out a buy one, no matter how bad the formatting of columns looks! :)

[RLB]

The bottom of the page definitely looks different. Who knows what they are up to.

[MrBillGates]

Originally posted by RLB
The bottom of the page definitely looks different. Who knows what they are up to.

probably nothing as usual

[DeusOmnis]

That was the ipod update... changing from holiday to significant demand.

[RLB]

I just called J&R music world to see which ipods they had in stock, the sales person initially said, " we have all of them, the 10, 20 and 40." He then double checked and said that he just had the 10 and 20 and thought that they had a 40. It is coming.

[MrBillGates]

I went to my local Fry's Electronics here in Phoenix today and they had a single 5 GIG ipod (Mac version) on the shelf. It wasn't a return and was priced at $289.

It looks the few retailers who do have 5 gigs in stock are trying to get rid of their inventories.

Fry's had plenty of 10 and 20's w/ no price reduction.

There's been a lot of speculation regarding what type of update Apple will release. Realistically, when an iPod announcement occurs here is what I think we'll see :

1. no changes to 10 & 20 gig models
2. introduction of 40 gig model
3. three tiered product pricing will remain the same at $299/$399/$499
4. firmware update for some sort of additional functionality. (AAC would be nice but not likely)

Basically, there will be no cosmetic or hardware changes except for the larger 40 gig.

my .02

[SoonToGetAMac]

Originally posted by RLB
I just called J&R music world to see which ipods they had in stock, the sales person initially said, " we have all of them, the 10, 20 and 40." He then double checked and said that he just had the 10 and 20 and thought that they had a 40. It is coming.

They don't have a 40. This guy could have just read the screen wrong or something.

[RLB]

Originally posted by SoonToGetAMac
They don't have a 40. This guy could have just read the screen wrong or something.
I know they don't have a 40. The point was that he was probably told that the 5gb is not coming back due to the soon to be released 40 gb ipod.

[c2kvette]

Well, I decided to go ahead and get a 10gb from Best Buy. They had some in-stock and the sales associate checked the computer and he didn't see anything about new shipments of updated iPods. But hey, I've got 30 days incase something does happen.

[vanillamike]

So is the new iPod coming out this Tuesday? :p

[melchior]

that's what the article title says doesn't it?:cool:

[SoonToGetAMac]

Lol...without the date, they can just keep the same article up saying "iPods next Tuesday"

[sparks9]

The iPod update can be here anytime now, this tuesday is as good a guess as next tuesday...

[RLB]

If anything, I just hope they change the Xserves on the main page this week. Who is going to buy one of those?

[Odox]

Well everyone, my hampster told me they would be out this Tuesday!!!
LOOK OUT HERE THEY COME!!! :P


No... really....
He's the brains behind Apple don't ya know..

[damax452]

March 18 is my story and im stickin to it.
10/20/40 for $299/$399/$499
But tuesday would certainly be nice.
I'm tired of reading rumors, time for Apple to sack up and give us some new iPods. :o

[MrBillGates]

Originally posted by damax452
March 18 is my story and im stickin to it.
10/20/40 for $299/$399/$499
But tuesday would certainly be nice.
I'm tired of reading rumors, time for Apple to sack up and give us some new iPods. :o

no kidding.... :(

[ceb]

I guess I'm not the only one who is really tired of seeing the Xserve on the main page.

[vanillamike]

I for one can't wait for the Xserver to be off the front page, and replaced with the new iPods :p

Seriously though I am with you, they announced it freekin early too didn't they? Late March is kinda vague for the Xserver release, especially when those 17" alum books keep getting pushed.

Either way March 18th is actually quite close now. Especially since its been so long since MWSF.

Just give me my freekin iPod update so I can end this misery!!!!!!! Otherwise you may see me on "The Osbournes" rolling that kid for his 40 GB :p

Mike

[MrBillGates]

Announcing new iPods is one thing... having them in stores is another. I just hope that the two coincide.

[greenfruit]

i keep getting these update emails for this forum and thinking "YAY ipods are out", but then being sorely disappointed.

Sorry to anyone for spoiling your day if you have the same problem.

[erova]

no kidding, every damn monday i'm hopin to see the xserve down and ipods up...

do you guys think that since apple's taken so long to get this version out we probably shouldn't expect new updates at the summer expo?

i mean, if they were introduced in the january one, then the summer show wouldn't be a stretch...

on top of all other rumors, do you guys think that this update is going to be simply capacity upgrades, only to have the next upgrade be really significant?

[Odox]

Ok here's the thing I can't work out.
A few rumor sites are saying that the 'new' ipods will be released as 10/20/40 gig. Ok fine. The only real changes being the price and the introduction of the 40 gig model.
Others say that the 5 gig Ipod will still be sold, but price reductions will all follow.

Macwhispers actually reckons that there won't be a 40 gig at all yet and all we'll see is price drops.

If apple decided to just change the new line by dropping the prices on all the ipods and leaving it as that, then why would they make sure all the 'old' ipods had been sold before introducting the same ipods?

Surely it would make more sense to keep shipping the ipods and just drop the prices at a set date - that way they wouldn't lose any of the market like they have done for the last couple of months due to the fact no one can get there hands on an 5gig ipod.

Is there any other reason for Apple to do this other than the fact they could be updating the ipod - or the software in some way shape or form?

Or perhaps i'm just missing the point. Oh well - I still want a bloody ipod :p

[sparks9]

Originally posted by erova
no kidding, every damn monday i'm hopin to see the xserve down and ipods up...

Why monday? It wont happen on mondays...
Tomorrow tuesday it will be! :D And I'm basing this on reliable sources... (my cat told me)

[sparks9]

Woohoo I've posted 97 posts, I'm a true member!
I thought I had only posted 20 posts or something like that, how can this happen to me! :D
All this iPod waiting is giving me a posting-boost!! WOOHOO... hope it will end soon. (like tomorrow).

Bye bye

[Tom800]

After AAC, 40 gig, audio in, better battery, etc, I'd love to see a better internal amp and general improved sound - the nomad jukebox (don't know about the zen, but the bigger one, whatever it's called), and the old PJB (the first HD mp3 jukebox around), have a much better sound for a lot of stuff. AAC will do a lot to help the overall quality, but the iPod at present has a weak bass and too 'clinical' a sound.

But bring on whatever, so long as it's soon!

[Tom800]

Even though I've been a'readin' this site fer years, still called a 'newbie'...

[Tom800]

if y'all don't mind, jest ta clock it up a little...

[Digidesign]

posted by Tom800:
if y'all don't mind, jest ta clock it up a little...

Post-whore! :p

posted by Odox:
Is there any other reason for Apple to do this other than the fact they could be updating the ipod - or the software in some way shape or form?

Competition is one reason. Archos, SmartDisk and many other companies are producing high storage/MP3 solutions, at much lower prices. True, they aren't nearly as elegant as the iPod, but even that can only justify the high costs for so long.

For example, SmartDisk is releasing a new product with:

- 30 gig HDD
- 3.5" Color LCD screen
- Pan/Zoom on images
- USB 2.0/transfer up to 480mps
- *Slots for compact Flash/MS/SD/etc.
- Plays MP3s
- Store/backup files
- MSRP $499

http://www.smartdisk.com/images/FlashTrax/FlashTraxSm.jpg

Again, it's not primarily a music machine like the iPod/Archos, but it's a response to a growing need for portable solutions and versatility which the iPod does not offer.

If I were Apple (lol) I would feel the concern to respond to this market and its competitive prices. The price for its innovation is heavily influenced by their preemptive timing - something that seems to be slipping as we wait for an update.

[Tom800]

"post whore", hehe ;->

[Tom800]

looks cool as hell, if apple made one same size as iPod now, in black, all the features of that, same price, i'd buy it immediately. hell, if smartdisk made it same size as iPod I'd buy it, but it's probably huge (compared to iPod).

[rastalin94]

I just heard from a friend that someone they know at an apple store contacted them and said they were able to update the software on their iPod today. OK I know that does not make for a crediable source, but my firend does not lie about stuff like this. Could not get any real info, but they said the updates where pretty major and gave the impression of more than just a hard drive update.

Now this might lead to just minor hard ware updates right now but, hints at a major overhaul in the new future. So Tuesday it might be :)

[Savona]

Well, after last tuesdays dissapointment, I went out and got the 20 from bestbuy even though it doesn't hold all my music. I gotta say though, I love this damn thing. It has to be the best overpriced thing I have ever bought.

Cool part is... if Apple decides to get this update out within the next 30 day I can still exchange it. Best of both worlds really!

[Savona]

Xserve.... boooooooooooo!

[Odox]

Originally posted by Digidesign
Competition is one reason. Archos, SmartDisk and many other companies are producing high storage/MP3 solutions, at much lower prices. True, they aren't nearly as elegant as the iPod, but even that can only justify the high costs for so long.

If I were Apple (lol) I would feel the concern to respond to this market and its competitive prices. The price for its innovation is heavily influenced by their preemptive timing - something that seems to be slipping as we wait for an update.

Oh I totaly agree, Apple need to respond quickly to the competitive prices in the market - many other products are being released and the prices on the Ipods are just too high right now. Lowering them would be the right thing to do.

However the point I was making was that if "all" Apple wanted to do was lower the prices on the Ipods they could have done that without freezing the supply.
This just suggests to me we could see something new in all the ipod units - such as a software update?

[weev]

Originally posted by RLB
If anything, I just hope they change the Xserves on the main page this week. Who is going to buy one of those?

You're right, not exactly front page splash material.

Show me the iPod.

------
weev

[vanillamike]

I don't really see why the offer on the 10Gb iPod would push back the release of the new iPods. Personally I don't think offering a bunch of free connection accessories is going to sell a ton of 10 GB iPods. I could be wrong, but if I am how many people have gone out and bought 10GB iPods because of the promotion?

All I want is a slim 20GB (oh and a price drop), please Apple, please let me spend money on your product :(

Here's hoping for tomorrow!!!

Mike

[RLB]

Originally posted by vanillamike
I don't really see why the offer on the 10Gb iPod would push back the release of the new iPods. Personally I don't think offering a bunch of free connection accessories is going to sell a ton of 10 GB iPods. I could be wrong, but if I am how many people have gone out and bought 10GB iPods because of the promotion?

All I want is a slim 20GB (oh and a price drop), please Apple, please let me spend money on your product :(

Here's hoping for tomorrow!!!

Mike

I agree. To further your point, it is only th Mac version that applies. If they wanted to deplete their inventory they would have made the offer available to all models or put them on sale. Furthermore they would have made the offer available to everyone not to the few who receieved an email (the offer does not apply to retail stores). Maybe they just wanted to get rid of the chargers. Lastly, Apple is losing business by not having a lower end model available - there have been many new products released that offer 20 gb for under 400 $. Here is to new ipods on the splash page tomorrow.

[SoonToGetAMac]

I don't think iPods will be out until there is a new iTunes, like how itunes 3 and 20gig ipod came out at same time, and itunes 2 and original ipod. i think they are starting a trend, hopefully with aac in itunes 4. do you think they will include a "converter" to convert MP3s to AAC?

[Wry Cooter]

Originally posted by SoonToGetAMac
do you think they will include a "converter" to convert MP3s to AAC?

No. At best it would sound just like the MP3 you have, but perhaps you are more concerned with file size.

If you want to use AAC rip the original source CD using AAC to get better sound quality at the same file size as your MP3s. Converting MP3s you have already ripped to AAC would be a huge waste of time IMO. The main idea is to get something better sounding in the same size, not making something compromized alreaady and making it slightly smaller and perhaps worse sounding.

[SoonToGetAMac]

Okay, thanks. I knew file sizes would go down, but I wasn't positive that it was a totally different compression algarithm. Wow, it would really suck to have to re-import all of my CDs.

[d46799]

Apple is taking sssso long to come out with an update that they *must* be working out the bugs on a new iPod with a new featureset! Some new 'wow' features, hopefully? Can't think of any other reasonable explanation for the delay.

40GB ipod, full-panel color LCD display with mini iCal, iTunes, Safari,
and Appleworks with inkwell input, not to mention airport extreme. Pleeeeeeazzze?

[Nitro230ft]

vanillamike, i think your pushing for something other than an iPod. I personally don't think they will updat ethe iPod anytime soon. i can't believe i've been waiting this long though. All i want is an iPod for $299, and a remote.....!

[vanillamike]

Originally posted by Nitro230ft
vanillamike, i think your pushing for something other than an iPod. I personally don't think they will updat ethe iPod anytime soon. i can't believe i've been waiting this long though. All i want is an iPod for $299, and a remote.....!

Ya no,

I am only looking for a 20GB iPod that is slimmed down to the size of the current 10GB and for the price of the current 10GB ($399).

I'm not asking for a colour screen, a pda, or a tablet. All I am asking for is the above, which translates to "All I want is a slim 20GB (oh and a price drop)"

Mike

[Savona]

I am using a PC, until I can afford a powermac, I want to re-rip all my CD in the ACC file format. Any suggestion on an encoder for PC. I know that the LAME encoder is widley considered to best MP3 encoder, but how about in the AAC format.

Thanks:D

[job]

today i went out and bought a rio s35s.

i could not wait any longer for the rumored ipods and i needed an mp3 player that i could rough up, since i'm running x-country and lifting weights while using it.

ah well. i'll save the rest of my money for the rumored 970s. ;) :p

[Monkeypoo]

Oh great! Every frickin tuesday I was one of the many optimistic fools hoping for a new ipod to be released and every tuesday I was only let down. Well, Tomorrow is Fat Tuesday and instead of hoping for an ipod, I'm hoping for some kick ass beads from the Zulu parade and then whatever else I can get from the quarter! Happy Mardi Gras folks! Go crazy then get spiritually cleansed on Ash Wednesday. Wow, I love my school for giving us 3 days off for Mardi gras and then spring break a couple weeks later.

yeah, you know I'll be checking the apple site wednesday when I regain consciousness.:D

[nodmonkey]

Check out the other iPod forum thread for a revealing LA Times article and comments:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21019&perpage=25&pagenumber=6


:D :D

[nodmonkey]

Check out the other iPod forum thread for a revealing LA Times article and comments:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21019&perpage=25&pagenumber=6


:D :D

[Sol]

That FlashTrax media player by SmartDisk looks great but the press release does not have a lot of details. I bet they use the Windows Media Player format but hopefully it is MP4. I wonder if it will be supported on OS X. One of their slide-scanner products has Mac support but by that they mean OS 9.

The Apple music service rumor sounds too nutty not to be true. Now that audio CDs are sold with piracy protection I would definitely consider a service like this for my music purchases. The problem is that downloading music is better suited to singles rather than whole CDs.

I think new iPods will come out tonight. I hope there will also be new firmware for the older iPods so that we can play MP4 sound files with them.

[melchior]

the idea of new iPod's is nothing but a dream now... they might be updated one' when i am old and deaf. i will look at them through my 2-inch thick spectacle and tell my grandkids about how i used to stay up nights, waiting for these little pieces of white heaven.

[ceb]

From a product placement perspective, Apple is truly acting like a bunch of fools. They are losing market share, there is a certain amount of disappointment in their silence, and they are leaving the front splash page up with something that is annoying any Apple consumer who does not care about high powered servers. They need an update just to get off the Xserve kick and get back to some high margin consumer products that people are ready to go out and buy immediately. Sorry, just venting my frustration.

[daSilVetZ]

well it's 9:30 AM , nothing yet.. somehow i doubt we'll have any update today :(

[vanillamike]

If they are waiting for April to coincide with the release of the new iTunes I am going SCREAM!!!!

I would say I am leaving the rumor boards and buying a new mp3 player, but I have invested too much time, that and I love you guys :p

I just keep looking at my empty Marware SportSuite Convertible (http://www.marware.com/Convertible.html) iPod case I got for Christmas and wonder when the madness will end.

On a separate note that article sounds awesome. Imagine you are putting together an iPhoto album for your friends. For just $15 you can load it up with perfect quality current top 40 songs then burn it and send it to your friends. (I guess you could do that now, but having it all integrated with iLife would be sweet).

Mike

[Digidesign]

My guess is we won't see new iPods until iTunes 4 is released. :(

[Raid]

Originally posted by Digidesign
My guess is we won't see new iPods until iTunes 4 is released. :(

After 3 months of waiting, I don't want you to be right, but I think you are going to be...:(

Apple will most likely flaunt any new capabilities of an improved iPod with the latest tricked out version of iTunes.

Raid

[Macurious]

Originally posted by ceb
From a product placement perspective, Apple is truly acting like a bunch of fools. They are losing market share, there is a certain amount of disappointment in their silence, and they are leaving the front splash page up with something that is annoying any Apple consumer who does not care about high powered servers. They need an update just to get off the Xserve kick and get back to some high margin consumer products that people are ready to go out and buy immediately. Sorry, just venting my frustration.

XServe is their highest margin product. One Xserve sale generates as much profit as 50 iPod sales. My guess is that this is part of Apple's strategy to market itself as a serious business solution. That's why they've recently upgraded and seriously promoted Powerbooks, Powermacs, and XServe and de-emphasized IBooks (update comping in 2010), iMacs (update sucked), and eMacs (updated? I think I heard a whisper when it happened), and unfortunately the iPod. They'll redouble this push when the 970 comes out.

Just my pennies.

- Curious ... a Mac?

[dstorey]

See all you guys next tuesday then? ;) I'm off to bed.

[Anne]

that's the great thing about the title of this thread - it's ever-enduring!

here's to next tuesday :p

[Monkeypoo]

Well, I'm mardi gras-ed out and there's still no ipod. I got a chance to check out an archos and that thing weighs a ton! Okay, relative to the ipod it weighs a ton. But hey, if I ever took up running and wanted to run with weights, I could buy two of them and listen to a different song in each ear and get a great workout.

[ELYXR]

Originally posted by Anne
that's the great thing about the title of this thread - it's ever-enduring!

here's to next tuesday :p

I think this idea should be a new thread... but seriously folks... :rolleyes:

[caveman_uk]

Apple is taking sssso long to come out with an update that they *must* be working out the bugs on a new iPod with a new featureset! Some new 'wow' features, hopefully? Can't think of any other reasonable explanation for the delay.
Or that they aren't releasing it yet for other business reasons. Is the reason the 17"PBs aren't out yet is because of a killer new feature they've decided to add at the last moment? No. My guess the new ipods are ready to go designwise. Perhaps (unlike the PBs) they're trying to actually have some they can sell when they announce them :rolleyes: