Kutaragi is an idiot...

[saunders45]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6152738.html

Seriously.... "The world would be a cold place indeed without the PlayStation."

WTF?:confused:

[eva01]

"We definitely aren't using any proprietary methods... We certainly couldn't fit a liquid cooling system [inside the PS3]... We're spending a lot on heat and electromagnetic interference [management]. The power supply could almost be sold separately.

Sold Separately eh. I don't know if he is joking about this or if it means nothing. But with all the crap coming out of his mouth, who knows.

[XNine]

While my work firewall blocks game site links, the quote you have there, is true. The Playstation was the first successful CD-based system and paved the way for all of the systems out today. Without it, we'd probably still be using cartridges.

[eva01]

Yep, and thank-god we still use cartridges for portables

[jdechko]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6152738.html

Seriously.... "The world would be a cold place indeed without the PlayStation."

WTF?:confused:

I believe that means that the PS3 will directly contribute to global warming... or something like that.

[jared_kipe]

While my work firewall blocks game site links, the quote you have there, is true. The Playstation was the first successful CD-based system and paved the way for all of the systems out today. Without it, we'd probably still be using cartridges.
Um was the Sega Saturn not launched first and had a CD drive? Granted there were earlier unsuccessful consoles with CD drives, but the Saturn was surely popular enough to be called successful.

[Dagless]

SCE CEO Ken Kutaragi details Sony's plan to put Cell processors in everything from servers to home electronics.

Yea, I'd love a Cell in my PowerBook. you know. a chip thats not meant for computer usage (from what I heard about "Macs to use Cell" debates a while back it's a 1 trick pony).

All I'm hearing from this guy at the moment is BS. I don't think anybody is listening anymore, other than to criticise.

"As a terminal, consider the flatscreen televisions in ordinary households. If you turn all these televisions into computers, the potential broadens greatly."
I didn't ask for a computer in my TV. I just want a frakkin TV that a computer can be plugged into. I don't want my TV to be needlessly expensive and use up even more power just to satisfy some guy waxing lyrical his new processor, from a company getting nothing but bad press recently. Oh bugger, I can't watch Doctor Who now because my TV has a virus. aw crap! The microwaves crashed again... Did someone forget to defrag the proximity light?!

World would be a cold place without Sony? not really. For one we'd still have Sega, though who can really say what would happen? Systems would have disc based drives by now though. Nintendo were going to CD's, hence them kickstarting "playstation" with Sony. They stuck with carts because CD's didn't give them what they wanted. I've yet to play any Nintendo system with anything but a quick load time. and I'm glad for that. Us Amiga and Commodore users were burned with loading. And the slow speed of BluRay is going to keep that load bar ticking over in the PS3 days.

[2nyRiggz]

Saturn was not popular....the life on that thing didn't last long at all...Even the Sega CD was better than that thing. Playstation was the 1st success in that CD era of gaming...


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[cycocelica]

Can we have an offical PS3 thread? I swear, everything new that Sony says has to be posted.

[2nyRiggz]

Can we have an offical PS3 thread? I swear, everything new that Sony says has to be posted.


We have one...it got lost somewhere....Maybe because I put a "don't Hate" on the thread.


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[BlizzardBomb]

Saturn was not popular....the life on that thing didn't last long at all...Even the Sega CD was better than that thing. Playstation was the 1st success in that CD era of gaming...


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For me, 10m sales is popular enough. Although even the N64 got 3x more.

[Dagless]

I think he meant "not successful compared to competition" instead of popular.

Anyways. It's not hating. What, you think everything this guy is saying is not worthy of criticism? Nintendo change the name of their console to something 99.9% of people thought was funny, which attracted crap loads of negative attention, but thats okay?

If somebody does something wrong I will point and laugh and explain why. But when someone does something right I won't say anything or just congratulate. But c'mon... everyone and their puppy knows that Sony have taken a stupid pill of late.

[cait-sith]

For me, 10m sales is popular enough. Although even the N64 got 3x more.

Why is it so important who came first? What's important is who's here now. Sega doesn't make consoles anymore.

I didn't ask for a computer in my TV. I just want a frakkin TV that a computer can be plugged into. I don't want my TV to be needlessly expensive and use up even more power just to satisfy some guy waxing lyrical his new processor, from a company getting nothing but bad press recently. Oh bugger, I can't watch Doctor Who now because my TV has a virus. aw crap! The microwaves crashed again... Did someone forget to defrag the proximity light?!

Amen! Enough of this "one unified solution" crap. n-in-1 technologies try to do everything well and usually do nothing well.

[zap2]

While my work firewall blocks game site links, the quote you have there, is true. The Playstation was the first successful CD-based system and paved the way for all of the systems out today. Without it, we'd probably still be using cartridges.


Nope. MS would be using CD for xBox, and the big N would have come over as well, and Sega could still be making systems, and they used CD as well

[XNine]

Nope. MS would be using CD for xBox, and the big N would have come over as well, and Sega could still be making systems, and they used CD as well

Maybe, but maybe not. CD based systems weren't a raging success until the playstation. Without that model to go off of, other systems may not be where they are today.

However, I think that a fridge or dishwasher, or even a microwave with a cell processor is a useless idea. Unless it's a sex-bot. But to have my fridge folding at home while dispensing ice... that's ridiculous.

I do think Sony has had some bad judgement as of late, but to me, MGS4 is worth more than 50 Xbox 360's and 100 Wii's put together.

[Torajima]

FYI, both the Sega CD and the Turbo CD were CD based systems and were out years before the Playstation. Sony didn't exactly invent CD drives...

[XNine]

FYI, both the Sega CD and the Turbo CD were CD based systems and were out years before the Playstation. Sony didn't exactly invent CD drives...

Did you not read where I and others said as it being the first successful CD based system? Of course there were systems long before the PSX, but none that made any significant impact on the gaming industry. Most of them were laughed out of existence. Even the Dreamcast which was popular wasn't a raging success, which is why Sega finally moved out of the hardware industry and focuses only on software now.

[Dagless]

I do think Sony has had some bad judgement as of late, but to me, MGS4 is worth more than 50 Xbox 360's and 100 Wii's put together.

Is this what we call blind faith? I mean we've seen no gameplay footage. I'm going to await judgement of each machine and to play the game to see how many Xbox 360's and how many Wii's it's worth.

[2nyRiggz]

^I'm going to hold you to it next time you prance around about SSB.;) :)


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[Dagless]

^I'm going to hold you to it next time you prance around about SSB.;) :)


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I'm talking nothing but potential about Smash Bros Brawl. not saying it will be good and worth X amounts of Random Console, far from it. if you remember I got a little angry at some of the announcements too. The bubble burst.

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[Torajima]

Did you not read where I and others said as it being the first successful CD based system? Of course there were systems long before the PSX, but none that made any significant impact on the gaming industry.

Oh, I read it. I just disagree with your theory that the Playstation is somehow responsible for later systems having CD drives, as the industry was already heading in that direction long before Sony released their system.

Heck, the Playstation wasn't even Sony's idea... it was Nintendo's.

[XNine]

Oh, I read it. I just disagree with your theory that the Playstation is somehow responsible for later systems having CD drives, as the industry was already heading in that direction long before Sony released their system.

Heck, the Playstation wasn't even Sony's idea... it was Nintendo's.

No, it was a joint Nintendo-Sony product called Project Dolphin, and Sony said "nah, we don't like what you want to do with it, we'll make our own system altogether." And thus the Playstation was released.

Is this what we call blind faith? I mean we've seen no gameplay footage. I'm going to await judgement of each machine and to play the game to see how many Xbox 360's and how many Wii's it's worth.

You could say that. I LOVE Metal Gear, and I'm also it's biggest critic. 1 and 3 were phenomenal games. The 2nd (including Substance for Xbox) and Twin Snakes were rancid. But this time, snake is fighting between 2 warring countries. TWO. Not just one enemy force, but TWO! It'll be so insane!

But then again, I buy Xboxes for the DOA titles mostly. Halo was what actually made me buy the first Xbox. Halo 2 was a total drag except for multiplayer (well, until the cheaters became promenant.)

So, yeah, I buy consoles for few games, but I play the hell out of those games.

[GFLPraxis]

While my work firewall blocks game site links, the quote you have there, is true. The Playstation was the first successful CD-based system and paved the way for all of the systems out today. Without it, we'd probably still be using cartridges.

1) What's so bad about cartridges? At least for its time, the N64 looked just as good as the Playstation. Lower quality textures but higher polygon counts. Look at Zelda 64.

2) Sega Saturn beat the Playstation to the market and had a CD drive. If Playstation hadn't been around Saturn would have been in its place.

3) Sega Dreamcast came out a year and a half before the GameCube and used 1 GB disks. XBox came out at the same time as the GC using 8.5 GB DVDs. Nintendo and Sony and Nintendo and Phillips had both looked towards developing CD addons for the SNES and N64- it's likely the GC would have used disks anyway.

[ChrisK018]

When does MGS4 = Sony? Didn't MGS start out on Nintendo? Just because Sony currently has the rights locked up for the latest adventure of everyone's favorite stubbled sneaky sharpshooter it does not make the PS3 a better performing platform. It just makes it an expensive platform with a good game.

Right now the PS3 is looking like it's going to be worth two 360's by the time it rolls out and maybe three Wii's give or take a few games.

I'd be careful singing the praises of a PS3 and talking about Sega in the same breath-- that might jinx Sony even more than the they already are with their price tag.

[Doraemon]

Reading this sort of threads is so boring on Macrumors. Nintendo fanboys (mostly), Sony fanboys just bashing each other.
Why can't both consoles be great? Which one will make the race will be decided by sales. Period.
Dreamcast was great and didn't make it. That doesn't make it bad, but it also doesn't make it the best console ever (it sometimes feels like it, when reading some posts here).
MG4 is going to be great. But so are many titles for Wii. And many for 360 (just Halo 3 is probably going to be worth buying a 360).

Peace.

P.S. I am looking forward to both Wii and PS3.
P.P.S. And yes, Sony is arrogant. But if the product is good, so what?

[bousozoku]

Sold Separately eh. I don't know if he is joking about this or if it means nothing. But with all the crap coming out of his mouth, who knows.

I think it's a poor translation but it sounds as if there is a whole lot more involved in the power supply than just a power supply. Of course, knowing his leadership, it's probably a disaster in progress.

[Torajima]

No, it was a joint Nintendo-Sony product called Project Dolphin, and Sony said "nah, we don't like what you want to do with it, we'll make our own system altogether." And thus the Playstation was released.


Er, no. Project Dolphin was the codename for the Gamecube. The Playstation started life as a CD attachment for the SNES. Games were even produced for it, including Secret of Mana, which later had to be downgraded quite a bit to fit on cartridge (still a great game though).

And Sony didn't walk away from Nintendo, Nintendo walked away from Sony... Sony wanted more control than Nintendo was willing to give them.

I actually remeber all this, but if you've forgotten (or were too young to remember), you can read more about video game history at wikipedia.

[Dagless]

Reading this sort of threads is so boring on Macrumors. Nintendo fanboys (mostly), Sony fanboys just bashing each other.
Why can't both consoles be great? Which one will make the race will be decided by sales. Period.
Dreamcast was great and didn't make it. That doesn't make it bad, but it also doesn't make it the best console ever (it sometimes feels like it, when reading some posts here).
MG4 is going to be great. But so are many titles for Wii. And many for 360 (just Halo 3 is probably going to be worth buying a 360).

Peace.

P.S. I am looking forward to both Wii and PS3.
P.P.S. And yes, Sony is arrogant. But if the product is good, so what?

Thats the thing, IS the PS3 going to be great? MGS4 is going to be great? Can I borrow your crystal ball for a moment, I'd love to check some things out.
It's not so much Sony's arrogance, it's anti-hype. They hype something to kingdom come "It's 4D" "it's a supercomputer!" "you don't need the PC anymore" "you won't need a hard drive or optical drive" "it has dual 120fps 1080p output". when it's all ********. Theres arrogance, and theres getting people excited then removing the original features. And I don't see the PS3 as great, I just see a tart of a system.

Hey, I'm working on a New Satan Sam game. It's going to be 200fps, 2160p, and controlled by the mind. Did you know that? well you better get excited about that, because it's going to happen :eek: !

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It's not arrogance. It's effing gross-lying (is there a better word?). Just we're more or less educated here. We don't fall for that anymore which is why we all take Sony's big mouth with a bucket of salt.

And frankly. I wouldn't buy a system for 1 game. I made that mistake before. thankfully the console was a christmas present so it wasn't too bad. but now I'm working and earning I'm not going to look at a system without a big number of amazing games.

Good work in trying to mediate too. but we're all stuck in our ways.