Civilization 4: June 30th (UK) [Archive]

Atlasland

Jun 18, 2006, 04:32 AM

Civilization 4 is now available for pre-order in the UK at amazon.co.uk for £39.99.

Due to be released on June 30th.

Woohoo.

[Apologies if this has already been posted somewhere, but I couldn't find it anywhere]

FleurDuMal

Jun 18, 2006, 06:37 AM

ScarletRed

Jun 18, 2006, 06:41 AM

Shame that hardly anyone will be able to run it :rolleyes:

It's a shame that so many macs out there have substandard GPUs. :)

dmw007

Jun 18, 2006, 08:00 AM

I am glad to hear the Civ 4 is finally going to be released for Mac. I for one, am growing weary of playing it on PeeCee and having it crash (***curses at Windows***). :)

Atlasland

Jun 18, 2006, 08:33 AM

It's a shame that so many macs out there have substandard GPUs. :)

So, so true.

eva01

Jun 18, 2006, 10:13 AM

I am glad that I will be able to run it.

SamIchi

Jun 18, 2006, 10:49 AM

What about Boot Camp? Does it work well on that?

Atlasland

Jun 19, 2006, 07:20 AM

Well I preordered it from Amazon, but now it seems to have disappeared from Amazon UK. Hmm...

[200th post!]

dmw007

Jun 19, 2006, 05:34 PM

What about Boot Camp? Does it work well on that?

I am sure that it would- although, since I don't have XPee on my MacBook Pro I can't back that statement up.

gallagb

Jun 20, 2006, 07:24 AM

looks like it'll ship in the US on june 30 as well
$49.99

amazon is taking pre-orders

any clue on what system requirements are?
i checked the civ4 sites and nothin on mac requirements

gallagb

Jun 20, 2006, 07:26 AM

any clue on what system requirements are?

never you mind!@
looked on Aspyr's site:

System Requirements:

Operating System: Mac OS X 10.3.9 or later
CPU Processor: PowerPC G5 or Intel chipset
CPU Speed: 1.8 GHz or faster
Memory: 512 MB or higher
Hard Disk Space: 3.5 GB free disk space
Video Card (ATI): Radeon 9600 or better
Video Card (NVidia): GeForce FX 5200 or better
Video Memory (VRam): 64 MB or higher
Multiplayer: Internet (TCP/IP) and LAN (TCP/IP) play supported. Internet play requires broadband connection.
Media Required: DVD Drive
*Supported Video cards: NVIDIA GeForce 5200, 6600, 6800, 7800 ATI Radeon 9600, 9650, 9700, 9800, X600, X800, X850, X1600
Recommended System Requirements:

Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4.6 or later
CPU Processor: PowerPC G5 or Intel chipset
CPU Speed: 2.0 GHz or faster
Video RAM: 128 MB

pity my machine isn't good 'nuff

kwajo.com

Jun 20, 2006, 08:32 AM

well good, I meet the requirements :)

any word on whether the game is as good as Civ or Civ 2? because personally I hated Civ 3, despite my intense addiction to both the previous editions (which I still play regularly via Virtual PC)

MattQiu

Jun 20, 2006, 11:33 AM

Civilization IV is out today. shipping next Monday.:cool: i can't wait

jelloshotsrule

Jun 20, 2006, 12:49 PM

Civilization IV is out today. shipping next Monday.:cool: i can't wait

how is it "out" today but "shipping" next week? out where??

ScarletRed

Jun 21, 2006, 05:28 AM

how is it "out" today but "shipping" next week? out where??

Probably meant that the Mac native version of Civilizations IV has gone 'gold'. Having gone gold means the developers have finished compiling the source code onto a master disc. The master disc will then be sent to the factory to be mass produced and this typically takes about one to two weeks. Then the discs are shipped to the distributors and retailer outlets.

General D

Jun 21, 2006, 08:22 AM

crazzyeddie

Jun 21, 2006, 09:18 AM

so much for 'continual support' for powerPC models..lol..

Granted Civ 4 is available for the G5, but what about all those G4's? I picked up my first ever apple in September..PB 17"... already it's a century old machine...lol

It'll be years before i pick up another computer

No civ for me, or thousands of other users

Your computer will run this game. Don't worry. Those are just very simplified requirements to keep people with iBook G4's and old iMac G4's from complaining about performance.

Veldek

Jun 21, 2006, 09:26 AM

Your computer will run this game. Don't worry. Those are just very simplified requirements to keep people with iBook G4's and old iMac G4's from complaining about performance.Although Aspyr already announced that they will stop making games for PPC quite soon, IIRC...

Eric5h5

Jun 21, 2006, 09:47 AM

Although Aspyr already announced that they will stop making games for PPC quite soon, IIRC...

You don't RC. ;) What Aspyr actually said is that they may start looking at making games Intel-only on a case-by-case basis, depending on the system requirements. i.e., if the game would only run well on high-end G5s, then they might not make the effort to do the PPC conversion if the market for it's too small. On the other hand, that pretty much describes their last few games anyway, so I'd say the Mac game market is too small for them to cut out any sales at this point.

--Eric

chicagdan

Jun 21, 2006, 09:57 AM

Shame that hardly anyone will be able to run it :rolleyes:

People made fun of me for buying an iMac G5 in January ... Hah! My machine hits the specs perfectly. Head out to Costco, you can get the 20" iMac G5 for $1300 ... a bargain. Isn't Civ 4 worth $1350?

jasonditz

Jun 21, 2006, 11:14 AM

How insane is it that a turn-based strategy game needs that high end of a rig?

chicagdan

Jun 21, 2006, 10:20 PM

How insane is it that a turn-based strategy game needs that high end of a rig?

As far as I'm concerned, they could have just retained the Civ II graphics and updated the game engine and I'd be happy. I couldn't care less about the graphics of this game, it's the gameplay that counts.

Mr. Anderson

Jun 26, 2006, 09:36 AM

So I pre-ordered from Amazon - I'm looking forward to a huge waste of time :D

They said the shipping should start on the 28th - I'm wondering if I'll get it on the 30th or if I'll have to wait until after the 4th of July Weekend....

D

jsw

Jun 26, 2006, 09:37 AM

Mr. Anderson

Jun 26, 2006, 09:39 AM

My preorder said I might not get it until the 12th! :eek:

Good God, what am I going to do with all of my spare time until then?

Likewise, I hope the other mod staff can cover for Mr. A and myself or the next few months. ;)

with the new options of online/email games, maybe we should try one - that way it can last for a year or two :D

D

jsw

Jun 26, 2006, 09:41 AM

with the new options of online/email games, maybe we should try one - that way it can last for a year or two :D

D
Oh... the games are shorter when you play them online? ;)

Mr. Anderson

Jun 26, 2006, 10:17 AM

Oh... the games are shorter when you play them online? ;)

Its called cheating :D

D

fatties

Jun 26, 2006, 10:33 AM

http://www.macworld.com/2006/06/firstlooks/flciviv/index.php

apparently we can play it on the macbook... woohoo! go substandard graphics go!

slackersonly

Jun 26, 2006, 10:54 AM

How insane is it that a turn-based strategy game needs that high end of a rig?

i agree. since when does feature/content rich HAVE to mean graphics rich.
i like that there are more world wonders but do i HAVE to see them in spinning 3D? do i need to see my warrior get totally mauled by a panzer to know that i lost the battle?

jelloshotsrule

Jun 26, 2006, 11:44 AM

i wonder how much of the graphics-heavy animation and stuff you'll be able to turn off.

my brother got this for pc a few months back and i didn't get into it the same way i'd gotten into civ 3... maybe just bad timing. some of the new complexities made me hide in the corner as they frazzled my small mind.

QCassidy352

Jun 26, 2006, 12:44 PM

http://www.macworld.com/2006/06/firstlooks/flciviv/index.php

apparently we can play it on the macbook... woohoo! go substandard graphics go!

hmm... how exciting! Might have to check it out... I used to love the Civ series, thought the original has always been my favorite. :)

Mr. Anderson

Jun 26, 2006, 01:04 PM

The review looks promising - and I have a quad G5 with a 7800, so I'm not worried about the processing power issue.

and the delivery date has changed a bit to be a little more vague....

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51356&d=1151345077

D

Cohiba

Jun 26, 2006, 01:23 PM

How insane is it that a turn-based strategy game needs that high end of a rig?

So true! My dual 1.8 had a hard time crunching thru civ III...

Mr. Anderson

Jun 26, 2006, 07:05 PM

Anyone else buying this on the 30th or do the preorder thing?

D

Roads0

Jun 26, 2006, 08:46 PM

Does anybody know of a major retailer where I can buy mac games/software? I'll probably just order Civ IV off amazon, but I wish there was some place where I could go to get it.

pdpfilms

Jun 26, 2006, 11:37 PM

Anyone else buying this on the 30th or do the preorder thing?

D
I ordered, though with a shipping estimate of June 25-July 2nd and a delivery estimate of June 29-July 10.

Huh. I don't see how next day shipping could yield a delivery 8 days after the latest estimated ship date....

nordesmic

Jun 27, 2006, 05:42 AM

I just preordered this. I have a dual 1.8 G5 with 1.25Gig RAM and Geforce 5200. I think this just fits the minimum recommended requirements. Do you think it will run ok? and also how much benefit am i likely to see from the dual processor configuration?

Cheers

JFreak

Jun 27, 2006, 06:25 AM

Isn't Civ 4 worth $1350?

If it is worth $1350 to you, I can sell you as many copies as you want. Hell, I'll sell you three copies for $3000 if you pay quickly :D :D :D

jelloshotsrule

Jun 27, 2006, 09:11 AM

If it is worth $1350 to you, I can sell you as many copies as you want. Hell, I'll sell you three copies for $3000 if you pay quickly :D :D :D

i'll take you up on that offer, but first i need to know all your bank account information... you know... just for my western union money transfer... ;)

nordesmic- i would guess you'll be able to run it ok, especially if you bump down some graphical settings. the dual will probably not help you a ton, unless they've utilized multithreading... which, while possible, woudln't help a ton with the graphics being heavy. that said, i still think it'll be fine

kwajo.com

Jun 27, 2006, 09:56 AM

As far as I'm concerned, they could have just retained the Civ II graphics and updated the game engine and I'd be happy. I couldn't care less about the graphics of this game, it's the gameplay that counts.

here! here!

Mr. Anderson

Jun 28, 2006, 08:58 AM

jsw

Jun 28, 2006, 09:07 AM

The only problem is that I have very little time to play it in the near future - bleh!

D
If it ships to you today, send it to me, then I'll send you mine when it ships in over half a month. ;)

chicagdan

Jun 28, 2006, 09:13 AM

pdpfilms - has it shipped yet?

Mine might ship starting today - I haven't been this concerned over a shipment in years - its sad/nostalgic/fun at the same time....

The only problem is that I have very little time to play it in the near future - bleh!

D

The official Amazon.com release date is still June 30, although Amazon release dates are generally meaningless. More specific information is sometimes available on your order. My Amazon order had an expected ship date of the 26th, with an expected delivery date of June 28, but the 26th came and went without a shipment. I'll know when the packages are in when Amazon moves my order to the no changes allowed, shipping soon status.

Since the Aspyr site links to Amazon.com, you've got to figure that they will get the first batch. Apple.com lists a 3 to 5 business day shipping time for new orders.

pdpfilms

Jun 28, 2006, 09:34 AM

Mr. Anderson

Jun 28, 2006, 09:36 AM

If it ships to you today, send it to me, then I'll send you mine when it ships in over half a month. ;)

So how much is it worth to you? :D

D

jsw

Jun 28, 2006, 09:37 AM

So how much is it worth to you? :D

D
$50. And then I'll just cancel my order. ;)

Mr. Anderson

Jun 28, 2006, 09:41 AM

$50. And then I'll just cancel my order. ;)

I've got mouths to feed around here, you expect me to just give it away?

Besides my cost is $54.97....

D

jsw

Jun 28, 2006, 09:42 AM

I've got mouths to feed around here, you expect me to just give it away?

DOK, you shamed me into this: $54.97 plus shipping. ;)

I can wait, actually. It's not like I really need yet another time-sucking thing in my life now. :)

Mr. Anderson

Jun 28, 2006, 12:12 PM

OK, you shamed me into this: $54.97 plus shipping. ;)

I can wait, actually. It's not like I really need yet another time-sucking thing in my life now. :)

I've got a great shipper that can get it to you next day - only it will cost you $300 shipping and handling

D :p

chicagdan

Jun 29, 2006, 09:46 AM

Amazon.com starts shipping Civ 4 today, they just moved my order into "shipping soon" status. I'll have my tomorrow ... woo hoo.

jsw

Jun 29, 2006, 12:36 PM

Not sure if this has been posted, but apparently Aspyr is serious about the system requirements (http://macenstein.com/default/archives/342). However, the review gives hope that a mini core duo or MacBook might run it, albeit slowly.
Amazon.com starts shipping Civ 4 today, they just moved my order into "shipping soon" status. I'll have my tomorrow ... woo hoo.
Mine now says it'll be here July 3. Shame on me for not ponying up the extra $4 to have it overnighted, or it would have been here tomorrow. :(

Mr. Anderson

Jun 29, 2006, 03:20 PM

mine still says not yet shipped with no change in the dates - I went with the standard shipping, not the super saver, but now I'm wondering if I shouldn't have done 2nd day....

Bleh,

D

Mr. Anderson

Jun 29, 2006, 04:11 PM

I also ordered mine on the 19th of June - when did everyone else order theirs?

D

jsw

Jun 29, 2006, 04:25 PM

I also ordered mine on the 19th of June - when did everyone else order theirs?

DJune 23.

Edit: I really should have used one-day shipping!

From: ship-confirm@amazon.com
Subject: Your Amazon.com order has shipped (#...)
Date: June 29, 2006 5:31:03 PM EDT
To: jsw

Greetings from Amazon.com.

We thought you'd like to know that we shipped your items, and that this
completes your order.

...

The following items have been shipped to you by Amazon.com:
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Qty Item Price Shipped Subtotal
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Amazon.com items (Sold by Amazon.com, LLC):
1 Civilization 4 DVD-Rom (Mac) $49.99 1 $49.99

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Item Subtotal: $49.99
Shipping & Handling: $0.00

Total: $49.99

Paid by Visa: $49.99

--------------------------------------------------------------------

This shipment was sent to:

...

via UPS (estimated delivery date: 03-July-2006).

Mr. Anderson

Jun 29, 2006, 06:55 PM

That's just not right! :( :mad:

I order before you and don't use the supersaver shipping and you're getting it before me? What's up with that?

Updated - its being prepared, but I'm not going to get it until after the weekend it looks like (probably best anyway :D)

D

chicagdan

Jun 29, 2006, 10:00 PM

jsw

Jun 29, 2006, 10:03 PM

Mine just shipped via overnight UPS ... I'll have it tomorrow.
Bastard. ;)

And Mr. A: I'm a Prime member. I don't know if that makes any difference whatsoever.

Mr. Anderson

Jun 29, 2006, 10:28 PM

Bastard. ;)

And Mr. A: I'm a Prime member. I don't know if that makes any difference whatsoever.

probably - what's a prime member and how did you become one? (or how much do you have to spend to be one :p)

D

jsw

Jun 29, 2006, 10:35 PM

probably - what's a prime member and how did you become one? (or how much do you have to spend to be one :p)

DIt's US$80 or so a year, and work paid for my first year of it. With it, anything sold directly by Amazon ships two-day for free or US$3.99 for overnight (per item). Anything. Sent a vacuum cleaner to my brother, overnight, for $4. Got a snow blower sent here, overnight, for $4. Order diapers, food items, etc. to be delivered two-day for free. Need razors? They're here in two days. Etc.

If things are cheaper and/or not immediately needed and are available through Amazon directly (as I said, this doesn't apply to other vendors who display on Amazon but ship from themselves), I buy them that way.

Fantastic service.

I just wish I'd spent the extra $4 this time. ;)

Mr. Anderson

Jun 30, 2006, 07:54 AM

It's US$80 or so a year, and work paid for my first year of it. With it, anything sold directly by Amazon ships two-day for free or US$3.99 for overnight (per item). Anything. Sent a vacuum cleaner to my brother, overnight, for $4. Got a snow blower sent here, overnight, for $4. Order diapers, food items, etc. to be delivered two-day for free. Need razors? They're here in two days. Etc.

wow - that would be worth it if you bought a lot from them.....I don't myself, maybe 6-10 orders a year and no large items.

D

chicagdan

Jun 30, 2006, 08:15 AM

wow - that would be worth it if you bought a lot from them.....I don't myself, maybe 6-10 orders a year and no large items.

D

I have Amazon Prime too, it's great. I order something just about every week and usually ship it overnight, ends up being a really good deal. Amazon is the only way to go for buying a Mac, no tax is charged, they always have a rebate and the shipping is great.

Mr. Anderson

Jun 30, 2006, 08:16 AM

Amazon is the only way to go for buying a Mac, no tax is charged, they always have a rebate and the shipping is great.

Provided you want a stock system - I've always had BTOs myself :D

But it does sound like a good deal, just wish I could justify if for the few times I'd use it.

D

jsw

Jun 30, 2006, 10:00 AM

But it does sound like a good deal, just wish I could justify if for the few times I'd use it.
Trust me. You'll use it all the time. It's worth it just to have a bag of chips delivered free two-day... just because you can. ;)

And, darn it, My Civ IV is literally a couple of miles away, where it will sit in a stinking warehouse all weekend long. Grrr....

Mr. Anderson

Jun 30, 2006, 12:20 PM

And, darn it, My Civ IV is literally a couple of miles away, where it will sit in a stinking warehouse all weekend long. Grrr....

You suck - mine is still showing up Shipping Soon.....and has been for almost 24 hours now - bleh

But with a nice sunny weekend and a new boat and lake just outside, I don't need the distraction right now.

D

jelloshotsrule

Jun 30, 2006, 01:16 PM

But with a nice sunny weekend and a new boat and lake just outside, I don't need the distraction right now.

sounds like a good time to chill on the boat with the laptop and play some civ. use the screen as sun reflector to get an even burn

jsw

Jun 30, 2006, 03:10 PM

But with a nice sunny weekend and a new boat and lake just outside, I don't need the distraction right now.
Yeah, right. :rolleyes: You mean the sun never sets there? What are you going to do then? :D

QCassidy352

Jun 30, 2006, 03:39 PM

jelloshotsrule

Jun 30, 2006, 03:45 PM

um... yikes. Oh well, I've been wanting a quad anyway... :eek: ;)

can claim it as a business write off this way too, right? ;)

Mr. Anderson

Jun 30, 2006, 03:49 PM

Yeah, right. :rolleyes: You mean the sun never sets there? What are you going to do then? :D

With the new daylight savings time here in Indiana, it doesn't get dark until 10 PM - its nuts.

But I'd be wiped from spending all day out in the sun and doing yard work/swimming/etc

D

Mr. Anderson

Jul 1, 2006, 03:17 PM

And, darn it, My Civ IV is literally a couple of miles away, where it will sit in a stinking warehouse all weekend long. Grrr....

So mine is in Baltimore now, arrives on Tuesday - they didn't deliver it for you today?

D

chicagdan

Jul 1, 2006, 08:30 PM

um... yikes. Oh well, I've been wanting a quad anyway... :eek: ;)

My iMac G5 2.1 ghz is a bit sluggish with Civ IV and it fits within the recommended specifications. I have a feeling that the Intel Macs are going to run this game a lot better than PPC Macs.

As for the game itself, not as addictive as past Civs. This is a game where the action is rather slow and a patient approach is rewarded. You don't want to build too fast because the barbarians are very tough this time. It's actually more interesting to play a culture-based game this time than to conquer.

I'm starting to warm up to the game, it was a bit off-putting at first. I still can't believe that my iMac is choking a bit ... not even going to try to install it only my PowerBook G4.

Mr. Anderson

Jul 1, 2006, 08:43 PM

Is the game multi processor aware?

D

QCassidy352

Jul 1, 2006, 08:51 PM

My iMac G5 2.1 ghz is a bit sluggish with Civ IV ... I still can't believe that my iMac is choking a bit

yeah, wow. That's a pretty good computer; hard to believe a turn-based strategy game needs to be so graphically advanced that it chokes a last-gen imac G5! :eek:

Atlasland

Jul 4, 2006, 06:56 PM

Uk Release Date Pushed Back To 12th - 20th July

Bollocks

Mr. Anderson

Jul 4, 2006, 07:47 PM

Uk Release Date Pushed Back To 12th - 20th July

Bollocks

That sucks - was there any reason for it?

D

Atlasland

Jul 5, 2006, 06:33 AM

That sucks - was there any reason for it?

D

Not that I can tell. One minute the Amazon release date is 30/06/06, the next I'm being told it could be anywhere between 12/07/06 - 20/07/06.

I'm really tempted to get Civ 3 complete to keep me tied over - what am I supposed to do for the 2 weeks!!!

Mr. Anderson

Jul 5, 2006, 11:43 AM

I'm supposed to get mine today - and its on the truck - but the UPS delivery guys always end up getting to my house at the end of the day, so I won't be playing till later tonight.....

D

chicagdan

Jul 5, 2006, 07:30 PM

Not that I can tell. One minute the Amazon release date is 30/06/06, the next I'm being told it could be anywhere between 12/07/06 - 20/07/06.

I'm really tempted to get Civ 3 complete to keep me tied over - what am I supposed to do for the 2 weeks!!!

Believe me, I'm tempted to go BACK to Civ 3 after playing Civ 4 for about four days. Great game, but it's just painfully slow on PPC Macs. I might just put it aside until I can afford a MBP.

Atlasland

Jul 11, 2006, 05:48 AM

Believe me, I'm tempted to go BACK to Civ 3 after playing Civ 4 for about four days. Great game, but it's just painfully slow on PPC Macs. I might just put it aside until I can afford a MBP.

I tok your advice, and ordered Civ 3 as well (the only Civ 3 I have is for PC), from MacGold.

Anyway, this morning I get a package delivered from Mac Gold - and lo and behold, they've sent me Civ 4 by mistake!

So now I've got to cancel my Amazon order for Civ 4, and maybe I'll reorder Civ 3 if Civ 4 is unplayable. Here's hoping it isn't unplayable.