Time to bomb Saddam!

[peter2002]

Here is some cool Flash!

http://www.richstevens.com/flash/time2.swf

[al256]

OH YEAH! War is really cool! Especially when all those people die. War is no laughing matter. I doubt the U.S will ONLY kill the members of the Iraqi military. I have yet to see an discriminating bullet, have you? :::sigh::: why do people make these movies?

[trebblekicked]

i don't get it. is it pro-war or anti-war?

[LethalWolfe]

Hmm... that was kinda weak.


Lethal

[robotrenegade]

haha, i like **** like that.

[iJon]

here we go again on the war issues. we are going to war, get over it.

iJon

[G4scott]

"Always look on the bright side of life!"

This just adds some humor to the current situation...

I thought it was funny.

[trebblekicked]

Originally posted by G4scott
"Always look on the bright side of life!"

This just adds some humor to the current situation...

I thought it was funny.

i certainly wouldn't mention this half-assed flash and three chords and a cloud of MIDI dust with eric idle and neil innes in the same post.;)

[kiwi]

infantile

[wsteineker]

Originally posted by kiwi
infantile

Much like those who'd post such a thing, eh? This is a joke. When will peter2002 stop being allowed to post flamebait? Ass.

[Chef Ramen]

this situation is no laughing matter. hundreds of thousands of people will DIE because of lies

[Dont Hurt Me]

War is not a laughing manor, its a shame we have to result to this but there is no other way when you are dealing with a horrible man like Saddam. He has murdered and tortured his own people in so many different and cruel ways it would make you cry. People are putting their life on the line not only for our country but for Iraq. Please remember this. Iraqi's live in fear everyday because of this one man and his thugs. It is time to Bomb Saddam, Past time, lets really hope and pray that the innocent, our troops, and others come out of this safely and we can get rid of this Killer and Free another country.

[hvfsl]

Originally posted by Chef Ramen
this situation is no laughing matter. hundreds of thousands of people will DIE because of lies

thousands of people die in Iraq because of Sadam every year, in the long run this will save lives.

Anyway if the UK was run by an evil dictator, I would be glad for the US for come in and take him out. The Iraq people have more chance of dieing from Sadam than the US.

Also it is Sadams fault if Iraq people die, he puts all his military stuff in hospitals etc, hopeing the US will not attack them. Hitler did the same, it is basically using the wests respect for human life against us. The US puts military bases out side of built up areas.

[peter2002]

You liberals are such ingrates. I guess the USA shouldn't have freed Europe during WWII because we accidentaly killed millions during our bombing runs. Yeah, the USA was the real evil doers then. What a bunch of bull? This war will be over in less than 2 weeks.

[Datazoid]

You liberals are such ingrates.

Why is this what it always comes down to any time anybody posts something anti-war? Liberals this, Liberals that. Can't you people get a new line?

[Chef Ramen]

Originally posted by peter2002
You liberals are such ingrates. I guess the USA shouldn't have freed Europe during WWII because we accidentaly killed millions during our bombing runs. Yeah, the USA was the real evil doers then. What a bunch of bull? This war will be over in less than 2 weeks.

the invasion may be over quickly but the occupation will last years

[Steradian]

hey, not all of us liberals are ingrates thank you very much, I personally am a liberal and currently i am Pro war, but for issues that should be disscussed in the political fourms...

[alex_ant]

Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
War is not a laughing manor, its a shame we have to result to this but there is no other way when you are dealing with a horrible man like Saddam. He has murdered and tortured his own people in so many different and cruel ways it would make you cry. People are putting their life on the line not only for our country but for Iraq. Please remember this. Iraqi's live in fear everyday because of this one man and his thugs. It is time to Bomb Saddam, Past time, lets really hope and pray that the innocent, our troops, and others come out of this safely and we can get rid of this Killer and Free another country.
I think what you should do, DHM, is copy this to a text file and just paste it into every thread that comes up in the political forums. As it is, I think I've seen various rewordings of this exact same post from you about 30 times so far. I admire your dedication. Maybe if you keep talking to the wall, the wall will move.

[wsteineker]

Why is it that the people, both in government and in society at large, who are currently so very pro-war with Iraq based (supposedly) on human rights issues are the same people who bitched and moaned when the US was, with the FULL SUPPORT of the UN, removing a dictator bent on genocide from power in Kosovo? Guess it's not as important an issue if there's no oil involved. Just a little food for thought...

[Dont Hurt Me]

Originally posted by wsteineker
Why is it that the people, both in government and in society at large, who are currently so very pro-war with Iraq based (supposedly) on human rights issues are the same people who bitched and moaned when the US was, with the FULL SUPPORT of the UN, removing a dictator bent on genocide from power in Kosovo? Guess it's not as important an issue if there's no oil involved. Just a little food for thought... Actually your wrong, clinton circumnavigated the U.N. on this, Getting the U.N. to agree on anything is almost impossible. That is why its relevence is being questioned. George tried to be the good guy and get the U.N. together on this. He didnt figure France would weasel. First they signed 1441 then threaten veto on anything. Just like now they are weaseling saying that if Saddam uses his chemo/bio weapons they would help us. Gee with help like that who needs them.

[wsteineker]

Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
Actually your wrong, clinton circumnavigated the U.N. on this, Getting the U.N. to agree on anything is almost impossible. That is why its relevence is being questioned. George tried to be the good guy and get the U.N. together on this.

Unfortunately, my friend, it is you who's wrong in this particular situation. The US acted with the full support of the UN and in alliance with a NATO task force in Kosovo. Don't believe me? Just check out this link fron CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1998/10/kosovo/). I think that takes care of any ambiguity in this situation.

He didnt figure France would weasel. First they signed 1441 then threaten veto on anything. Just like now they are weaseling saying that if Saddam uses his chemo/bio weapons they would help us. Gee with help like that who needs them.

As for the issue of "weaseling," I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that Germany, China, and Russia all disagree with the US and outright support France's position with the Security Council. Why aren't any of the warmongers and jingoists in this thread mentioning that? Why does all of this hatred center on the French? Is it because they've spoken the loudest? Also, I'd think that you would be thrilled with French pledges to aid the US-led efforts should bio/chem weapons be used. It lends a very small amount of validity to your argument. Guess you're too busy spouting rhetoric to stop and see the obvious.

[taeclee99]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by wsteineker
[B]Unfortunately, my friend, it is you who's wrong in this particular situation. The US acted with the full support of the UN and in alliance with a NATO task force in Kosovo. Don't believe me? Just check out this link fron CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1998/10/kosovo/). I think that takes care of any ambiguity in this situation.

I am afraid that you are dead wrong on this one. The airstrikes on Kosovo that begun in March 1999 was a NATO not an UN operation. The airstrikes were not sanctioned by the United Nations Security Council in any way. In fact many UN member states condemned the airstrikes. After 70 days of bombing, on June, 10, 1999 did the Security Council pass UN resolution 1244 which called for a cessation to violence and an immediate implementation of peace keepers.

The fact of the matter is that the US policy of regime change in Iraq is nothing new. Clinton justified regime change in Kosovo because Milosovic was a butcher. Where was Sheryl Crow, Martin Sheen, Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn on this matter? Were they protesting Clinton's policy of regime change? No...they supported Clinton because to them he is one of the "good guys."

Many anti war protestors are against this war because of one reason: they do not like George Bush. They can't get over the fact that Al Gore lost. They hate that fact that George Bush speaks in absolutes: of "right and wrong. 'They believe George Bush is a greater threat to world security than Saddam Hussein. I hear the protestors refer to our President as a "cowboy" but never hear anyone protest about Saddam's tortuous ways. I for one am grateful the George Bush has the moral clarity to do what is right for not only the United States but the world at large.

[wsteineker]

Originally posted by taeclee99
I am afraid that you are dead wrong on this one. The airstrikes on Kosovo that begun in March 1999 was a NATO not an UN operation. The airstrikes were not sanctioned by the United Nations Security Council in any way. In fact many UN member states condemned the airstrikes. After 70 days of bombing, on June, 10, 1999 did the Security Council pass UN resolution 1244 which called for a cessation to violence and an immediate implementation of peace keepers.

It appears that you are correct in regards to the date of NATO strikes beginning and the date of UN resolution 1244. I should have done more thorough research. That said, I did go out of my way to mention that the US acted with a NATO task force, not a UN force. I have yet to find evidence of members of the Security Council speaking out against US or NATO action in Kosovo. In fact, all of the Security Council permanent member nations save Russia and China actually participated in the NATO strikes.

The fact of the matter is that the US policy of regime change in Iraq is nothing new. Clinton justified regime change in Kosovo because Milosovic was a butcher. Where was Sheryl Crow, Martin Sheen, Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn on this matter? Were they protesting Clinton's policy of regime change? No...they supported Clinton because to them he is one of the "good guys."

I believe the prime problem here is that the vast majority of the people on this planet feel like the US has some sort of ulterior motive in regard to Iraq. Kosovo has no oil or other great riches, and as such it seems fair to say that the US, along with NATO, acted solely out of a moral imperative to end genocide and restore stability to what has traditionally been the most volatile region of Europe. I do not doubt that the Bush administration feels that they, too, are doing the right thing. I, like so many others, simply question their reason for doing it.

Many anti war protestors are against this war because of one reason: they do not like George Bush. They can't get over the fact that Al Gore lost. They hate that fact that George Bush speaks in absolutes: of "right and wrong. 'They believe George Bush is a greater threat to world security than Saddam Hussein. I hear the protestors refer to our President as a "cowboy" but never hear anyone protest about Saddam's tortuous ways. I for one am grateful the George Bush has the moral clarity to do what is right for not only the United States but the world at large.

I have taken part in war protests and I voted for Gore. None of that has anything to do with my personal dislike of President Bush. I do believe him to be a threat to global stability, moreso than Hussein to say the least. He has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the US, once the global standard for virtue and honor, has fallen so far as to become the nation-state version of a schoolyard bully. Saddam Hussein is a foul and detestable excuse for a human being, but that does NOT give the US reason to simply do away with him. We must understand that we are not the only ones on this planet who matter, that in order for any global organization devoted to the ideals of peace and democracy such as the UN to be successful we must listen to and abide by their ruling, especially when we don't like what they have to say. That's what our first ammendment and the rule of law are all about, right?

[voicegy]

Geesh, here we go again for the 187th time...no one is right or wrong in these discussions, and this one started with a stupid flash movie.

Flamebait is right...I almost think that some of us get a kick out of just starting a post about SOMETHING, ANYTHING to do with "the War" and sitting back and watching everyone wring each others' necks. It's so predicitable.:rolleyes:

[skunk]

Originally posted by hvfsl
Anyway if the UK was run by an evil dictator, I would be glad for the US for come in and take him out.

I hope nobody over there takes THIS seriously. If WE have a problem, WE will take care of it, thank you very much. KEEP OUT. Your "smart" carpet-bombing isn't smart enough. :confused:

[Mr. Anderson]

Um, this isn't news.....lets try and remember the rules for the Current Events Forum.

D

[britboy]

Originally posted by peter2002
Here is some cool Flash!

http://www.richstevens.com/flash/time2.swf

The way Bush handled the whole affair could perhaps be aptly described by this (http://www.webdesignlab.co.uk/niksthings/masking.html) ;)

[hvfsl]

Originally posted by skunk
I hope nobody over there takes THIS seriously. If WE have a problem, WE will take care of it, thank you very much. KEEP OUT. Your "smart" carpet-bombing isn't smart enough. :confused:

And the Jewish people in ww2 could stop Hitler by themseleves could they, if the dictator is too powerful for the citizens to take out then they need outside help.

[skunk]

Originally posted by hvfsl
And the Jewish people in ww2 could stop Hitler by themseleves could they, if the dictator is too powerful for the citizens to take out then they need outside help.

In what way is this relevant?

No, Dukestreet, I agree this is not news. Nor was the foolish animation which began this thread. Why suddenly complain now?

[3777]

my thread was closed:mad: