macrumors newbs vs real members [Archive]

mnkeybsness

Mar 18, 2003, 11:39 PM

is anyone getting sick of the vast amounts of newbies around the forums?

just for an example...read the flamewar on this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22071)

sure some of them have some great insight, but i think too many of them may be coming over from *other* forums which are in less high regards as macrumors was at one time.

just a suggestion, and i know some people will complain and some will back me up on this, but i would like to see a 6502 and higher member level forums section!

discuss

Sun Baked

Mar 18, 2003, 11:55 PM

Seems a lot of the veteran members have been the ones generating a significant amount of Spam and Flames the past couple months.

Quite a few Site News posts recently to back that up.

The newbies that do go chaotic -- take themselves out rather quick -- if they're reported.

Some of those come back and do quite well, after their posting vacation ends.

Foxer

Mar 18, 2003, 11:58 PM

As a recent "newbie" I feel obliged to observe that most of the "smack" in that thread was between a veteran and a guest.

Nuc

Mar 19, 2003, 12:13 AM

I guess you could say it may be frustrating for you to see newbie's posting wild replies because you have been here a while. However everybody has to start somewhere. I enjoy reading what other people have to say even though it may at times (or most of the time) be very weird. But again it is their opinions.

I see that you are at the Univ. of Minn. I think you would agree with me when I say that college teaches you to critique other peoples opinions and respect them even though you may think it is ignorant. And it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if you started a private forum (it's a free world), however I like to see what everybody has to say because you guys have lots of good tips and views. I've learned a lot from the software and hardware discussions and hope to learn more. Thanks guys and gals!

voicegy

Mar 19, 2003, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by Nuc
I guess you could say it may be frustrating for you to see newbie's posting wild replies because you have been here a while. However everybody has to start somewhere[...]I like to see what everybody has to say because you guys have lots of good tips and views. I've learned a lot from the software and hardware discussions and hope to learn more. Thanks guys and gals!

Pretty dang level-headed and thoughtful, for a "newbie".

mymemory

Mar 19, 2003, 12:32 AM

There is a common factor around this:

I think iJon is on one of those days, you know what I mean.:rolleyes:

trebblekicked

Mar 19, 2003, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by mnkeybsness
just for an example...read the flamewar on this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22071)

jeez. i thought 'tude like that was the copywritten property of the political forums regulars.:rolleyes:

it does take some time to get accustomed to the decorum here. i'm still learning the rules myself. this place is really unlike the other message boards i have seen. flamewars are the exception here; the rule at others (like the UCB board i tried to participate in). the mods have done a great job of projecting a classy image and a respectful aptmosphere that you understand the more time you spend here. Hopefully, those of us who stick around long enough to get new monicers can keep projecting that image.

mac15

Mar 19, 2003, 03:57 AM

It was bound to happen, I joined at #20** something and it was supercool back then. Don't get me wrong its fun now but no what it used to be.

gotohamish

Mar 19, 2003, 04:31 AM

Surely the point of having open forums is for them to be "open" - we all start somewhere.

chewbaccapits

Mar 19, 2003, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by mnkeybsness
is anyone getting sick of the vast amounts of newbies around the forums?

just a suggestion, and i know some people will complain and some will back me up on this, but i would like to see a 6502 and higher member level forums section!

discuss

Wow..Can everyone say, elitist?:eek:

robbieduncan

Mar 19, 2003, 05:45 AM

I think this would be a very bad idea (at the very least as I could not post there!) How do you expect these people to learn if those who are (in yout view at least) more moderate and thoughtfull with their postings go off to a section of the board where they cannot participate and learn by your good example. If all of the long time posters demostrate how to behave, and perhaps dish out fair and non-flaming repremands, then those who you allege are dragging us all down will alter their ways. If theirs posts are really all that bad should the moderators not be deleting them/banning these users?

G4scott

Mar 19, 2003, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by mnkeybsness
just a suggestion, and i know some people will complain and some will back me up on this, but i would like to see a 6502 and higher member level forums section!

Very good idea. Of course, whose to say that there wouldn't be flames in those threads...

We need people who could flame like Alpha Tech. He could pinpoint his flame with deadly precision and accuracy, and anybody who stood him up was quickly castrated by his all-knowing posts...

Those days were fun... :cool:

Mr. Anderson

Mar 19, 2003, 07:57 AM

By adding another forum for 6502 and higher is only further incentive to spamming and upping post count. If the forum were to be created imagine all the extra posts we'd be seeing, spurious, spam, one liners, useless....

I don't think it should happen.

Just remember to report the offensive posts and a mod will come in and take care of it.

And if you want to be part of a group, contribute and be a demi-god. :D

Thanks,

D

Dunepilot

Mar 19, 2003, 08:14 AM

we shouldn't be honouring Alphatech now that he's no longer here - his flames were frequently a first response before he'd even followed links that people posted. I ended up in numerous arguments with him just because he hadn't read what I'd said properly.

Macrumors without Alphatech is a much better place IMO.

That said, there are often a lot of ignorant posts by newbies, but we shouldn't start to think that a newbie equates to a troll.

I, for one, read this site for a couple of years before I joined as a posting-member, and I'm sure there must be a lot of newbies around who are long-time visitors to the site.

tcolling

Mar 19, 2003, 08:15 AM

Just so you all know, I'm a newbie. However, I have been reading Macrumors for a long time, I'm guessing over a year. I check out the forums on a nearly daily basis.

However, I don't generally respond unless I can offer something either insightful or at least an attempt at reasonable wit.

I wonder how many of us "newbies" are newbies only because we don't place "wow, I'd like that, too", or "I wish Apple would...", or "yea, I got the first post" posts.

Please don't get me wrong, I have nothing against those posts, because that's what discussion is, and it seems as though most of the forums on this site are closer to conversations than many, which is a good thing.

All I'm saying is don't discount all newbies as not knowing what they're talking about just because we haven't placed many posts. If Steve or Woz joined today, wouldn't they, after all, be newbies?

Mr. Anderson

Mar 19, 2003, 08:26 AM

Maturity and age do not indicate member status. If someone is going to be an idiot from the start, when they're newbies, they don't get far. There are far fewer members, regulars and above who cause problems, but there are still exceptions from time to time.

I was a newbie, and even arn was a newbie, once. So don't use the label 'newbie' to equate troll or flamer.

D

melchior

Mar 19, 2003, 08:30 AM

if steve and woz joined, i think they would be flamed, constantly, without rebuke.

it must be great for celebrities to go on the internet and pretend to be other people. normal people. stuff they can't do in the street.

Dr. Distortion

Mar 19, 2003, 08:33 AM

A message board with much better "n00b-proof" features can be found here: http://www.tweakers.net/

Although the site is in Dutch I think you can all see how the users can moderate eachother by casting "mod-points" on the various posts. This quickly eliminates nonsense posts, since the default viewing level of the posts is 0, so if your post gets modded down to -1 it won't even show up for the readers unless they choose to view all posts.

-Dr. D.

bbarnhart

Mar 19, 2003, 08:40 AM

I think there are plenty of worthless threads and posts by long time members so an elite section would just create two sections both with lots of worthless threads and posts.

Kind of like this one. It is getting to the point where I don't have time to read the entire board, just the main page.

Flickta

Mar 19, 2003, 09:08 AM

mymemory

Mar 19, 2003, 09:15 AM

Flames sometimes are funny, I lough when people get pissed:D

The only solution I see is to temporally ban the person, but forget about it, that would make Arn to be here all the time and now that he has a wife, less probable.:rolleyes:

BTW that is Apples faul for suiting our sources, no good romors any more, just simple speculations.:mad:

kettle

Mar 19, 2003, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by mnkeybsness
is anyone getting sick of the vast amounts of newbies around the forums?

just for an example...read the flamewar on this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22071)

sure some of them have some great insight, but i think too many of them may be coming over from *other* forums which are in less high regards as macrumors was at one time.

just a suggestion, and i know some people will complain and some will back me up on this, but i would like to see a 6502 and higher member level forums section!

discuss

You deserve to have your avatar revoked for gob ****e like this, then you'd have a job flapping yer "I'm a class snob" flag all over the shop.

Like WWIII when everyone gets a free fallout shelter, except those in employment of the state who get additional power shower and fitted wool carpeting options. Actually, I prefer the chrome to the brass effect door fittings.

MorganX

Mar 19, 2003, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by melchior
if steve and woz joined, i think they would be flamed, constantly, without rebuke.

it must be great for celebrities to go on the internet and pretend to be other people. normal people. stuff they can't do in the street.

Yes, Steve would get flamed. But who would flame the Woz. The Woz is respected by all computer users. PC, Mac, Linux whatever.

Cheese

Mar 19, 2003, 10:43 AM

Why can't we all just get along? Sometimes a conflict can be invented merely by pointing out differences between two people (or things). Apple computers are different from wintel junk (thankfully), so aren't we having enough fun making humor out of peecee's and their inept thinking and vain user following? See what I mean! You've got me doing it too! Flame the day away is what woz might say! Maybe we could get apple to include a program like "iFlame", a yet undeveloped chat room and message board autoflaming app with spamondemand functions! That way, we american thinking newbies could feel up to the task of replying to silly stuff as well.

tcolling

Mar 19, 2003, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by mymemory
Flames sometimes are funny, I lough when people get pissed:D

Man, do I get pissed when people misspell words :D

sparks9

Mar 19, 2003, 11:13 AM

I would like to see you banned for discrimination...

Even you were a newbie sometime.

Flowbee

Mar 19, 2003, 11:20 AM

And keep in mind, just because someone is a newbie to posting here doesn't mean that that they are a newbie to Macs (or a newbie to reading this board, for that matter). Just as 30 "me too" posts don't make a person suddenly more knowledgeable.

FelixDerKater

Mar 19, 2003, 11:31 AM

Everybody here was a newbie at one point. The forums would get boring if you didn't have new people joining to add in the discussions. That said, I think that newbie status should stick until at least 50 or 100 posts.

Remus

Mar 19, 2003, 12:26 PM

I think that Nuc has a good point, but as a "Newbie" I think that we have our places. "Seen, but not heard" ;) . Just kidding. I now that I have not always posted at a "Genius Level". If you are offended, I am sorry. I only try to post when I can help the discussion or have a question that I need help with. But for the most part I try to watch and think about what is posted. I appreciate each person posting here and I think that you have a lot of insight, wisdom and of course a few good jokes...

mnkeybsness

Mar 19, 2003, 01:26 PM

wow i didn't think this would be that controversial!

in no way did i mean for this to be "discriminating" against all newbs. and i do agree that there are "higher" members who do throw things off a little or a lot too far.

maybe what i really meant in my first post sounded like a better idea in my head than it really was after all.

but it seems that in the two and a half or so years that i've been a member here, the amount of new members per week has grown exponentially. this can be good and bad for a forum. good because it brings around a lot more knowledge and insight to the forums. bad because it brings around quite a few (not all are) spammers and flamers. oh and did i mention more hoaxes? sure it's fun to see someone dream up (for example) iTunes 4 and all it's capabilities and post a mock-screen shot, but when they say it's the real thing and keep going on about it being real and then 3 pages later finally admit that it's a fake, it's just annoying (ps no offense to the person that did actually did that - just admit it right away though!).

so macrumors becoming ever more popular seems to have its ups and downs...and i guess we'll all need to just deal with it :p

markjones05

Mar 19, 2003, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by mnkeybsness
is anyone getting sick of the vast amounts of newbies around the forums?

just for an example...read the flamewar on this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22071)

sure some of them have some great insight, but i think too many of them may be coming over from *other* forums which are in less high regards as macrumors was at one time.

just a suggestion, and i know some people will complain and some will back me up on this, but i would like to see a 6502 and higher member level forums section!

discuss

I think you are taking this forum a little too seriously. I like common courtesy and good conversation as much as the next guy, but common now. Get off your imaginary internet forum high horse and calm down.

edesignuk

Mar 19, 2003, 01:32 PM

tut, tut, why was this posted in "General Apple and Tech Discussion"? :eek: :confused: :p
Honestly, that's the kind of thing I'd expect from a 'newbie' ;) :D :p

edit: strangely after this post the thread has been moved to "Community Discussion" ;)

tjwett

Mar 19, 2003, 01:38 PM

i have to agree. i got real busy and wasn't around here for months. when i was able to start checking things out again i began to notice ALOT of new "faces", which is a good thing. but i did notice many are posting nonsensical remarks. a year ago this was a place that held some seriously interesting converstaions. some got ugly, but most were really informative and fun to read. just seems there are a lot more "blah" posts being made, kinda like this one ;)

wsteineker

Mar 19, 2003, 02:33 PM

I've been reading this board since its original incarnation, and I've been a member for two years or so. I, much like tjwett, got really busy with school and didn't come around for some months. I returned to find a totally new community. Some of the faces were familiar (eyelikeart, dukestreet, arn, etc.) and some were totally new (vniow, etc.). I'm not sure it's a better place now, but it is definitely different and different can be good. I have to say that most of these folks are great posters and members of the MacRumors community, but there are a growing number who post nothing more than spam and flamebait. I think it's also safe to say that some of these folks aren't necessarily newbies. I hesitate to name names, but let's just say that they tend to populate the political discussion forum. I do wish that we had some sort of "karma" system on these boards, even if it was controlled by the mods. That might help the situation and change things to everyone's liking.

evildead

Mar 19, 2003, 02:37 PM

I have been here for a long time now and I rarly see users that I used to talk to when I first started posting here. I have noticed a decline in the quality of posts but nothing signifacant. Just becuse your new dose not mean that they have nothing to add to the conversation. Many oldtimers were falmmers too.... some were even banned. I don't really mind that much if people get in flame wars... as long as it's at least a decent argument.

I spend most of my time in the Tech foums and always have. I think that many of the old Tech Mac heads are gone and the harder questions don't get answered anymore. It is nice to see some fellow UNIX heads arround and I have seen more of those

I guess I don't have as much time to fool arround on macrummors.com any more, and when I do ... It seems like there is less reason for me to jump in.

wsteineker

Mar 19, 2003, 02:40 PM

Nice to see evildead is around again. We as a community need to do more to involve the veterans of this board as much as possible. Guys like this are a tremendous asset to us all.

Oh yeah, and one more thing. I miss spikey. :D

edesignuk

Mar 19, 2003, 02:42 PM

We have a top quality 'newbie' here (NOT) - http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=287149#post287149

:rolleyes: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

beez7777

Mar 19, 2003, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by edesignuk
We have a top quality 'newbie' here (NOT) - http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=287149#post287149

:rolleyes: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

i dont think he was talking about you though. i think it was a reference to what t3 might have said to that dumbarse bitching about apple's support. i may be wrong though. as for this newbie thing, i think there have been a lot of useless threads and posts lately, but just as many were from regulars and members, as well as others; more newbies is, for the most part, a good thing i guess. there's always gonna be stupid posts, but saying all newbies post useless crap, and all useless crap is posted by newbies isn't fair. we were all newbies once. :D

edesignuk

Mar 19, 2003, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by beez7777
i dont think he was talking about you though. i think it was a reference to what t3 might have said to that dumbarse bitching about apple's support. i may be wrong though.
Yeah, someone else pointed that out, though I'm still not sure. I guess it can be read either way. We'll just have to wait for them to reply to my response to see what was actually ment.

Remus

Mar 19, 2003, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by edesignuk
We have a top quality 'newbie' here (NOT) - http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=287149#post287149

:rolleyes: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Yes aggreed there are some who need a rock to crawl back under. But as this forum increases in size, you unfortunately attract the "Worms of the Earth". :rolleyes: But we need to slap them around a little to make them take this a better forum for all to visit and enjoy. "Demi-Gods" should take worms like this to task out back. :D

We all need to work together to make this a good place for rumors, thoughts & support, and not take things too seriously....
:p

vniow

Mar 19, 2003, 03:28 PM

Personally, I don't mind all the newbies too much, just as long as they keep everything civil and flame-less and most of them do but there a few that just go around pissing people off.

Nothing's ever set in stone though, about 90% or so of the members that never make it past 30 posts stay in the news section and give their two cents or whatever.

Some of them can provide some valuble info (usually tech related) to the discussion and others just spit out little one liners which is alright with me as long as it's related to the discussion and doesn't get anybody pissed off.

And I've seen some of the so called 'elder' members get a bit too emotional and post flamebait and/or spam also (I'm guilty of the latter http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=257466) while some post very long and well thought out posts from time to time.

I really don't see it as a battle between newbies and regulars, it's more of a battle between people who keep things civil and people who are complete assholes, that is all.

This was brought up awhile back in another thread, a good read.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13430

Sun Baked

Mar 19, 2003, 03:51 PM

Aaaahhh, the stellar performance of the newbie veterans ... ;)

Oldtimer's First Post Thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=10820) aka Jefhatfield's First Post

scem0

Mar 19, 2003, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by tcolling
Man, do I get pissed when people misspell words :D

He is not completely a fluent English speaker so he has the right
to make spelling mistakes. And to worry about spelling mistakes
is like worrying about getting wet when jumping into a lake.

Everyone is a newb at some time, some cause problems, others
don't. It is kind of useless worrying about it.

SilvorX

Mar 19, 2003, 05:36 PM

when a site gets huge (forum site), it fills up with n00bs, many n00bs are just wanting to learn, while others cause trouble, ive seen many sites go from awesome, to just plain crud due to n00bs

janey

Mar 19, 2003, 06:50 PM

here's a great example of "veterans" spamming on macrumors :) ;)
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20569

NavyIntel007

Mar 19, 2003, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by chewbaccapits
Wow..Can everyone say, elitist?:eek:

Yeah, bunch of Avitar holding Nazis :mad:

Stelliform

Mar 19, 2003, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by übergeek
here's a great example of "veterans" spamming on macrumors :) ;)
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20569

The infamous geek thread..... Arn just can't kill it can he... :D

janey

Mar 19, 2003, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by Stelliform
The infamous geek thread..... Arn just can't kill it can he... :D
everyone begged him not to delete that thread.
It's survived wasteland TWO times!
only thread in MR history to come back...ever!
i love my thread!

vniow

Mar 19, 2003, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by übergeek
i love my thread!

And we love you for creating it.http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=258478

janey

Mar 19, 2003, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by vniow
And we love you for creating it.http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=258478
and i love you for posting so much in it :)
and shadow too :D

Cheese

Mar 19, 2003, 08:13 PM

It's really all about the love isn't it?

scem0

Mar 19, 2003, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by übergeek
and i love you for posting so much in it :)
and shadow too :D

ummmmmm your forgetting someone......

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;).

Rower_CPU

Mar 19, 2003, 09:19 PM

Now, now. No need to make this Geekthread II...:p

daniel77

Mar 19, 2003, 09:21 PM

janey

Mar 19, 2003, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by scem0
ummmmmm your forgetting someone......

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;).
oh scem i forgot you!
and i forgot macfan25 and ibookin and everyone else who joined :)

Originally posted by daniel77
i have been here for a while, am i still a newbie. what is technically a newbie? am i?
it's your macrumors thing, depends on your post. macrumors newbie's the lowest, then member, then regular, 6502, 65816 and so on.
their status is right below the person's name.

Stelliform

Mar 19, 2003, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Now, now. No need to make this Geekthread II...:p

Yeah, if I am ever going to get an avatar don't get threads I post in wastelanded. I Missed out on Geekthread I ;) :p :D

janey

Mar 19, 2003, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by Stelliform
Yeah, if I am ever going to get an avatar don't get threads I post in wastelanded. I Missed out on Geekthread I ;) :p :D
lol why did you miss out? that thread was great...perhaps this could be the third geek thread...with the sex toned down a tad for those children out there :)

ibookin'

Mar 19, 2003, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by übergeek
lol why did you miss out? that thread was great...perhaps this could be the third geek thread...with the sex toned down a tad for those children out there :)

Toning down the sex will prevent it from becoming a true geek thread.

I think several members like vniow, Shadowfax and übergeek will agree with me.

There would also be spam. A lot of spam. ;)

Sun Baked

Mar 19, 2003, 10:44 PM

There is a quick simple one word message for those wishing to continue on making this the geekthread lite.

wsteineker

Mar 19, 2003, 10:45 PM

So...getting back on topic...

Newbies suck and veteran members are assholes! :p

shadowfax

Mar 19, 2003, 11:25 PM

this is getting bad. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=287851#post287851) who is responsible for putting that on the main page anyway? that's where all the newbies go, which makes it worse than it is in the political forums with all the vets. if there is anything more inflammatory than macs, it's politics. god, this is frustrating.

wsteineker

Mar 19, 2003, 11:32 PM

Are there any mods around that could possibly lock the thread that shadow referenced above? A whole lot of newbies registered simply to post in it, and are currently saying some incredibly nasty stuff about all sorts of off topic stuff. Seriously, somebody do something about it. Please.

wsteineker

Mar 19, 2003, 11:33 PM

Nevermind. Looks like it's been taken care of. Thanks for bringing that to everyone's attention, shadow! :)

Rower_CPU

Mar 19, 2003, 11:37 PM

You can thank eyelikeart for taking care of that. :)

wsteineker

Mar 19, 2003, 11:39 PM

Thanks eye! This all brings up a very important question. When arn is unavailable, what do we do about reporting abusive posts/threads? Should we pm other mods or just post the request for a mod in the forum itself?

SPG

Mar 19, 2003, 11:41 PM

If you vets are really looking for a place free of newbies, kick down the $20 for the ad-free macrumors and access to the Private Forums. Also you get to be called a MacRumors Demi-God.

Rower_CPU

Mar 19, 2003, 11:42 PM

Just use the report post link. I'm pretty sure any mod gets notified as soon as they log in.

eyelikeart

Mar 19, 2003, 11:47 PM

I'm online often, and so are dukestreet & ambitiouslemon...

u should report the thread though...that way we all get the email...

otherwise...look any of us up on IM...rower did ;)

wsteineker

Mar 19, 2003, 11:47 PM

Thanks Rower!

vniow

Mar 19, 2003, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Just use the report post link. I'm pretty sure any mod gets notified as soon as they log in.

Yeah, an e-mail gets sent to all the mods and admins with the selected post in a hyperlink.

eyelikeart

Mar 19, 2003, 11:51 PM

just as long that u understand...

no reporting the poop thread... :eek: :D ;)

shadowfax

Mar 19, 2003, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Just use the report post link. I'm pretty sure any mod gets notified as soon as they log in.

hehe, i picked some random newbie with a nasty post, hit the report button, and requested the whole thread be dealt with in a mod's wise fashion.

Rower_CPU

Mar 19, 2003, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by eyelikeart
just as long that u understand...

no reporting the poop thread... :eek: :D ;)

Such rampant nepotism...I'm shocked and dismayed! :eek: :p

vniow

Mar 19, 2003, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by eyelikeart
just as long that u understand...

no reporting the poop thread... :eek: :D ;)

Of course not, if that were closed, how would we ever know how people's bowels are managing?http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=251718

eyelikeart

Mar 20, 2003, 12:03 AM

hey...we try not to show favorites...

but this is a special case here... ;)

scem0

Mar 20, 2003, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by ibookin'@mwny
Toning down the sex will prevent it from becoming a true geek thread.

I think several members like vniow, Shadowfax and übergeek will agree with me.

There would also be spam. A lot of spam. ;)

Don't forget me.

I totally agree. Sex is what makes a geek... and sometimes lack
of sex. You and über don't seem to have that problem though. :eek: ;) :D

shadowfax

Mar 20, 2003, 02:40 AM

funny thing happened tonight. i had the pleasure of making the acquaintance of some guy named psychokill99 (on AIM). He mistook me for Paul ;). he insisted i was gay. then he started calling me dirty names like "fag" and told me to go ***** myself and my dog, and blow people for a living, and he started railing on me for liking macs. i can't help but wonder if it has anything to do with the gore thread tonight, or if it's someone who knows me indirectly and is just having "fun" at 2:30 in the morning. at any rate, i thought it entertaining enough to share, and i just had a question and an invitation.

my question is, does anybody know who this blessed soul could be/gotten some friendly messages from him?

lol. and of course an invitation: i would invite you all to drop a line to my new buddy, tell him what's on your mind, maybe have a little chat with him. he's really pleasant :rolleyes:

anyways, see you guys around.

wdlove

Mar 20, 2003, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by eyelikeart
just as long that u understand...

no reporting the poop thread... :eek: :D ;)

Yes, what a disaster that would be. After all eyelikeart needs to keep regular! :p

Stelliform

Mar 20, 2003, 02:10 PM

OK, Back on topic, I have to say that the newbie's do post a disproportionate of flames, particilarly in political threads. Mabey Newbie's should be restricted from posting in Current events, community, and political forums.

Mabey making a new user post on Mac topics first would keep the flames down.....

Just a thought.

Winston Smith

Mar 20, 2003, 02:23 PM

eyelikeart

Mar 20, 2003, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Winston Smith

Now to find the poop thread.......

I hope u all know that I'm smiling here right now...literally... :D

Stelliform

Mar 20, 2003, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by Winston Smith
To echo an earlier Newbie post, I also try to post new ideas or opinions to Mac related threads. I don't feel I've been around long enough to get involved in the forums above.

I've only come to this thread as a result of reading the one about the guy who might take over from Jeff Goldblum when its finally time to advertise 15.4" Ai Book. The number of 'i' guests there was shocking.

Now to find the poop thread.......

Well the community forum was the least worrisome on that list. :) I mainly wanted to curtail opinions on political matters. Long time members have a hard time behaving themselves in there. Newbies don't have anything to lose. (i.e. post count/rank, avatars)

I don't think that removing posting privledges for 30 posts in those forums would be very restrictive. Mabey we can figure out the best solution and then let Arn know after his Marital Bliss.... ;)

vniow

Mar 20, 2003, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by Winston Smith

Now to find the poop thread.......

*Official Poop Thread* (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12317)

bcsimac

Mar 20, 2003, 06:44 PM

All of us started out as newbies sometime or another......It just depends on how mature you are about your posts and etc. I had been reading Macrumors for a while, but I also was afraid to post anything for awhile. It wasn't until I got a bunch of "helpful" posts on Apple's discussion boards that I decided to take the chance and sign up and start posting. We also all of us started out one time or another as Mac using newbies. I have learned after selling, servicing, and training in the Mac market to have some compassionate for the newbies out there. I realize a lot of them don't learn as fast as some of us geeks do. I don't get frustrated or mad at them. Yeah, I do get irritated a bit and stressed; but I never take it out on them......and I never try to ban them or whatever. I just take a deep breathe and keep my focus and do my job or whatever. A little understanding can do a lot of wonders! Of course it was nice to get a little encouragement from guys like wdlove. That helps immensely!

Now as far as my posts go, mine can be a little long, but they are well thought out. I do a lot of research too when I make my posts. I know some of my posts weren't popular with some of you only because of my stance on things like Christianity vs Religion or something of that order. At least I try to respect people and don't try to belittle them. I don't post though to do any or cause any flame wars......that is not my style. I will however speak up when I feel that Christianity is being misrepresented or misunderstood. In general I just try to be a good citizen, but yet voice my opinions on things.

kettle

Mar 21, 2003, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by Stelliform
OK, Back on topic, I have to say that the newbie's do post a disproportionate of flames, particilarly in political threads. Mabey Newbie's should be restricted from posting in Current events, community, and political forums.

Mabey making a new user post on Mac topics first would keep the flames down.....

Just a thought.
Ever wonder what drives a regular, possibly long time reader of Macrumors to become a REGISTERED user of Macrumors? Perhaps you should because I think a disproportional amount of rubbish is written by users with greater than 500 posts, usually with so little consideration that it'll inspire the most anonymous of user to sign up for a flame session.

Also, 500+ post users seem to suggest that non avatar holders should be restricted and regular users suggest newbie users should be restricted. funny that.

There is a type of person on earth who ignore their own standpoint and origin. I see it with traffic protestors who think that taking carriage vehicles from a city built on the income of carriage trade is a good idea and using the taxes from business relying on carriage trade to pay for the pedestrianisation schemes is a good idea also.

Equally dumb is the self righteous anti war bull. War is wrong but it is the price we pay, have payed and always will pay. The whole world is a result of ages of war, empires that sparked technology revolutions, my mac is here because of an inbuilt desire in humans to shape and control. We are a force of nature that advances or declines, one or the other. If we spend resources on competitors we will pay for the kindness later.
On the whole I think this human race is doing a very good job, its just a shame that some people can't enjoy the harvest when it is their turn to reap the rewards. There will never be a time when everyone believes in the same god, loves thy neighbour and gives as much as they take as often as the next human.

Learn your lessons well and maybe you'll be a lucky one who makes it to the next level, whatever that may be.

p.s. In a perfect world would I be wrong to protest for the right to go to war if I had no real reason or desire to go to war?