PS3 interface

[irishgrizzly]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1826796847481689092&hl=en

It basically a clone of the PSP interface. Can't decide how I feel about it. It loses the pazazz of the 360 interface, but the non-intrusive simplicity might be nice when your playing.

[AlmightyG5]

I find it great. The 360's interface is too confusing to a person using it for the first time. there are soo many places to click and go. Sony is going simple for the interface, and I think many will like it.

[2nyRiggz]

I've seen it before.....its not a clone per say....they wanted the PSP and PS3 to have that unified thing going....its really neat....plus they cleaned it up a bit....several articles gives it props.




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[Haoshiro]

I do like it, at least at first look.

I am a bit concerned it will end up too limiting for some functions. It may work great for first use but feel limited once you get used to it. I feel the opposite about the 360, it may take a bit longer to get used to, but then it has a lot to offer.

[Dagless]

Echo Haoshiro. Looks nice but for a system that is promising all this boom and zazz, looks a little weak.
I think it works great on the PSP (self positioned menus would be improve it) but as a full system - I don't know how I'd feel.

[zap2]

I saw a vidoe of it and it seem "weak" but Sony said you could have a backround of your choice of how(atleast thats what i hear) so that makes it a little better, still nothing that would make be buy, or not buy the system.(i'd never buy a system for video games based on the menu, so really its not all that important to me)

[XNine]

It's obviously not a final version, so I'm sure many of the options are not loaded into it. As far as the UI aspect, I think it's perfect. Simple is always best.

[Tommyg117]

Echo Haoshiro. Looks nice but for a system that is promising all this boom and zazz, looks a little weak.
I think it works great on the PSP (self positioned menus would be improve it) but as a full system - I don't know how I'd feel.I agree that it doesn't look as great as I expected. I also think that it is MORE confusing than the 360 blade system. It will still be cool though, I hope Sony makes its online play as good as 360.

[2nyRiggz]

It's obviously not a final version, so I'm sure many of the options are not loaded into it. As far as the UI aspect, I think it's perfect. Simple is always best.

I think so as well....I saw the one from the e3 showroom and it look real nice.....showed off the browser and it looked a little better than this showing....hate to say this but it look a little vista-ish.



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[michaelltd]

I was quite underwhelmed by it. I honestly prefer the Xbox 360 Interface.

[Mavimao]

I will say that even though it looks barebones simple, it makes sense when you bring up the system menu mid game. A nice clean interface.

But it is just really...bare. Then again, one is able to customize.

[sikkinixx]

I love it on my PSP but the icons need to be a lot bigger on the PS3 to make it look snazzy imho

[michaelltd]

I'm hoping that they improve the menu display during gameplay. The one shown on IGN didn't seem to darken the paused game, which could make reading the menu very difficult if the paused game is very bright.

[GFLPraxis]

The XBox 360 interface feels so PC-like though, like when I bump the Windows key when playing a game, and more importantly, it LAGS. The framerate of the animated blade popping out is choppy.

I only see UI lag on my Windows PCs, so the sight just instantly makes me think of a crappy PC.

This looks nicer IMHO. Though as said above, it should darken the screen to be readable.

[MacRumorUser]

I was quite underwhelmed by it. I honestly prefer the Xbox 360 Interface.

Despite the 360 having some serious bugs with the lastest dash update, i still prefer it.

Sony's minimal interface works great on a handheld, but I think it looks out of place aesthetically on a ps3.

It's too small, friend information looks difficult to manage and where on earth is the easy to access marketplace from the dash?

Also where on earth is the option to boot up linux from the dash, it was not there from what was shown and that seems worrying.

Please, dont tell me we can only do that from a linux boot disc :o :o

Don't like it at this stage at all. But will reserve final judgment for final product.

[greatdevourer]

It's obviously not a final version, so I'm sure many of the options are not loaded into it. As far as the UI aspect, I think it's perfect. Simple is always best. Unless you're losing useful features because of the simplicity ;) The problem with simplicity is that when you try to add onto it, it just gets horrible. But, as you said, it's not finished. It may not even look anything like that come November.

As Mavimao said, that sort of interface for the games is far better than the 360 in-game dashboard. And hopefully, it'll actually make sure the game is paused when it's brought up

[Mr. Mister]

I think it looks subtly powerful and very clean. Best thing is that like with the PSP you'll probably be able to set a custom background or change background effects.

[Haoshiro]

I think that is really why the 360 UI lags when a game is running, because the game doesn't get paused.

I understand the principal behind that though, since certain games have different ways of pausing. Strategy oriented games want to black the screen, etc, so people can't "cheat" by giving themselves time to think (a simple example would be speed chess).

This could be a problem for the way the PS3 UI is working now, unless the game can somehow detect the system pause event and black the screen itself.

I think MS could have avoided the lag if they had just required developers include a standardized pause routine that the system could call when the UI was brought up, same for PS3.

And as for the simplicity, I agree that simple is best. But I also agree trying to make a UI extremely simple when you have a lot of information you need to manage or make available can actually end up cumbersome. As long as the UI doesn't go too deep, and branches off to full screen sections where appropriate, it could work very well.

[Chaszmyr]

It's fine I guess, but I also prefer the Xbox 360 interface.

[steamboat26]

I like the interface on the PS3, nice and simple

[seenew]

I just remember the first time I turned on my Gamecube four years ago, and saw that floating cube.. I thought that was so cool.

This is just kind of... bland.
Easy to use, sure, but boring.

[MacRumorUser]

I hope to god they have better on screen support that aesthetically pleasing than the DVD menu on a ps2. Awful, just plain awful.

[wwooden]

I think that system works well for a handheld, but I would just need more on a console.

At first, I was a little overwhelmed with the 360's interface. I didn't know where half the stuff was or what the other half did.

But now I really like it (the 360 that is). I think everything is really well organized and there is great integration with the live marketplace.

I really hope that is not the final interface for the PS3, even though I won't be getting one anytime soon. I want it to be fun and personalized, that theme seems very sterile and boring. We spend big bucks on these systems, I want to feel like it knows me and I can change it to my personality.

[deggs37]

Where it is now its too dull, way too much room left unused.

[MS bulldog]

be patient...sony is famous for their user friendly programming. i'm sure they'll come up with an intuitive menu that will be fully functional and pleasing to the eyes.

[sb58]

its too plain, and too simple.

[Dagless]

be patient...sony is famous for their user friendly programming. i'm sure they'll come up with an intuitive menu that will be fully functional and pleasing to the eyes.

Tell that to those fools who bought one of them Sony MP3 hard drive players (absolutely forgotten the name). An Apple hating mate once sung glee towards iTunes for being excellent and has stopped copying music to his Sony 20gb thingy machine as it's such a slow pain.

oh and the whole spyware farce with audio CD's.

nevermind... you were being sarcastic?

[Chaszmyr]

be patient...sony is famous for their user friendly programming.

They are..? Sony makes nice hardware, but Sony software is usually pretty lackluster.

[Pistol Pete]

hahahha that is so UGLY!!!!

i know its still under works...but its a joke.

[JDOG_]

I have a few concerns on the interface and this thread:

1. The text and icons are incredibly small. It may look "elegant" or "simple" but it's going to be damn hard to deal with unless you're using it on a 60" screen or are up close to the monitor. There is an incredible amount of screen real estate there that just isn't getting used and big text can look quite pleasing if it's given some fading and motion with gui integration.

2. How is the XBOX 360 GUI confusing or overwhelming? To me this seems exactly the same, just repackaged. It's nested folders with 4-direction back and forward commands. Likewise the 360 has the categorical blades with options to drill down into more refined categories...in every single blade (except settings) you are able to see your gamertag/user info as well as the disc tray icon to start a game or play a DVD.

3. Where is this 360 guide button lag? Going back and forth between settings and marketplace content certainly, but in any game hitting the guide button brings it up right away and digging deeper isn't an issue.

[cartoonfox]

On a purley graphic design standpoint, I think it works very well. It's clean and simple, and works with what ever background or game you currently have paused.
One concern is that if you pause while having a lot of bright colours or white (what with all the Blooming going on these days) you'd have a hard time seeing the menu. Maybe they can add a feature where it senses the background and changes the white to black, or vice-versa.

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[Dagless]

On a purley graphic design standpoint, I think it works very well. It's clean and simple, and works with what ever background or game you currently have paused.
One concern is that if you pause while having a lot of bright colours or white (what with all the Blooming going on these days) you'd have a hard time seeing the menu. Maybe they can add a feature where it senses the background and changes the white to black, or vice-versa.

Peace

Just greying out would be nice. fill screen with 50% black, knock image to black and white (pizzaz! is the word?) in a nice split second. would be top.
nice from a graphical design standpoint :P I know a few lecturers who would scream negative space and that from the rooftops! he wasn't nicknamed crazy Ivan for nothing.

[cartoonfox]

Oh yeah I have loads of ideas I could do with this, I think working on a console interface would be cool!

But... I'll never get a PS3 so it doesn't really matter : ]

Now I just hope Nintendo has a clean interface for Wii. The DS had something interesting, let's hope they advance on that...


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[2nyRiggz]

The simple look the PS3 looks less confusing than the 360(even though I like the blades) but the PSP interface is so easy to use and very simple and stylish. I know the you will be able to customize the PS3 interface so I don't see the big deal....simple and effective.




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[Mavimao]

he wasn't nicknamed crazy Ivan for nothing.

"Russian captains sometime turn suddenly to see if anyone's behind them. We call it "Crazy Ivan." The only thing you can do is go dead, shut everything down and make like a hole in the water."

...couldn't resist :D

[2nyRiggz]

its too plain, and too simple.

Okay, Do you want it complex and over the top......then you won't like it because its complex and over the top right.....cool.



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[MacRumorUser]

My concerns as stated earlier.

with the interface as is, friends online / listing could be a pain

easy access to marketplace that follows the same gui standard doesnt look possible utilising that menu interface

linux ? where's my linux

Too much space wasted, viewers on a small SD screen are going to be in for an eyesore...

360 dash integrates with Live beautifully, stats; friends, marketplace - not sure how ps3 interface as is can do any of that.
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I like it in principal, not to keen on it in practice.

[zap2]

Okay, Do you want it complex and over the top......then you won't like it because its complex and over the top right.....cool.



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I'd bet he would want it a little more complex... no reason to saying he is never going to like it, I'm sure he could make it more to his liking.. i to think its to simple.

[2nyRiggz]

I'm sticking to my above post:

you will be able to customize the PS3 interface so I don't see the big deal....simple and effective.:D

This showing looks so different from the one I saw at e3.....The e3 showing was much better.



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[sikkinixx]

not really the interface but I didnt wanna start a new thread.

check out the dev kit!

http://media.ps3.ign.com/articles/726/726255/img_3851909.html

damn thats a beast!

[GFLPraxis]

Way, way smaller than the monster I saw at E3. It was a desk, not a dev kit.

[ReanimationLP]

I'd kill to own a PS3 Development Kit.

They look sweet.

Or one of these :

http://cgi.ebay.com/DTL-T10000-TOOL-Development-console-Playstation-2-PS2_W0QQitemZ120023622017QQihZ002QQcategoryZ62054QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Now thats one FAT Playstation2.

[KingYaba]

It's simple, it's clean, and it looks very nice. I can't wait till one of my friends, or brother buys one. :D I'm too cheap to shovel the cash.

[sikkinixx]

i was just surfing around wikipedia and found this video link of the PS3 interface from E3 2006

http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=4069

looks a lot better than the one IGN had, the background and on an actual TV makes it look a bit better, not so plain.

[MacRumorUser]

That interface in black looks classy :) , unlike the ign menu.

However the thing i feared the most looks like its gonna happen. That ****** interface for DVD playback on the ps2, that's awkward and cumbersome - is making a return...

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2351/ps3wg7.jpg

Booooo!!! :o

[sikkinixx]

That interface in black looks classy :) , unlike the ign menu.

However the thing i feared the most looks like its gonna happen. That ****** interface for DVD playback on the ps2, that's awkward and cumbersome - is making a return...

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2351/ps3wg7.jpg

Booooo!!! :o


haha i thought the EXACT same thing! I hate that damn dvd interface! they better make a damn good remote to go with this thing or I will be P.O.'d :o

[MacRumorUser]

haha i thought the EXACT same thing! I hate that damn dvd interface! they better make a damn good remote to go with this thing or I will be P.O.'d :o

LOL! tell me about it. It sucks more ass than a fan back stage at an Elton John concert... slurp :D :p

Remote looks like the wiimote so no more 5 million buttons on our remote thank god!!!!

[sikkinixx]

LOL! tell me about it. It sucks more ass than a fan back stage at an Elton John concert... slurp :D :p

Remote looks like the wiimote so no more 5 million buttons on our remote thank god!!!!


all i can say is.. ouch to sir elton :p

there is a pic of the remote already?

[Dagless]

a little side-topic-ish. but my brother returned from holiday with one of those Xbox 360 remote controllers. eep! you don't need any buttons on that, just reach forward a bit and poke the TV and 360 power buttons with it.

[sikkinixx]

a little side-topic-ish. but my brother returned from holiday with one of those Xbox 360 remote controllers. eep! you don't need any buttons on that, just reach forward a bit and poke the TV and 360 power buttons with it.

they are long arent they? I got the mini version free when I got my 360 on launch so luckily I didnt need to buy the meter stick...I mean remote

[MacRumorUser]

there is a pic of the remote already?


The picture of the remote was posted ages ago, it's a blatant copy of the wii-mote.. But in black. I cant find the images now though :rolleyes:

Oops here it is

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/01/ps3-controller-yeah.jpg

And the wii mote

http://www.virtualworldlets.net/Worlds/Listings/VRInterfaces/WII.jpg

[sikkinixx]

The picture of the remote was posted ages ago, it's a blatant copy of the wii-mote.. But in black. I cant find the images now though :rolleyes:

Oops here it is


no way that is real, its the EXACT same, not even Sony has the nuts to do that...plus it kinda looks a little photoshopped around the fingers...

[MacRumorUser]

no way that is real, its the EXACT same, not even Sony has the nuts to do that...plus it kinda looks a little photoshopped around the fingers...

yeah though had crossed my mind, but the dpad looks different. It was all over the net during E3, but i never heard it being officialy called a fake, and people were claiming that they saw it at E3.... Well have to wait and see....

[sikkinixx]

yeah though had crossed my mind, but the dpad looks different. It was all over the net during E3, but i never heard it being officialy called a fake, and people were claiming that they saw it at E3.... Well have to wait and see....

problem is that its a little TOO simple for a dvd remote, especially if you have to use that god awful menu system, then there are no button shortcuts! :(

[GFLPraxis]

The picture of the remote was posted ages ago, it's a blatant copy of the wii-mote.. But in black. I cant find the images now though :rolleyes:

Oops here it is

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/01/ps3-controller-yeah.jpg


Blatantly obvious Photoshop joke. I could have sworn I saw it with some anti-Sony caption on it.

Someone took a black Wiimote, and photoshopped a PS2's D-pad and button symbols on it. That's why the D-pad looks different, it's a PS2's.

EDIT:

In fact, it's photoshopped off of this image:
http://www.newscore.nl/images/upload/RevPlusController_1.JPG

[sikkinixx]

Blatantly obvious Photoshop joke. I could have sworn I saw it with some anti-Sony caption on it.

Someone took a black Wiimote, and photoshopped a PS2's D-pad and button symbols on it. That's why the D-pad looks different, it's a PS2's.


kinda looks more like the PSP's imho...

[Dagless]

The PS3 reflection is obviously a fake too. blurred console but super sharp reflection. hmm's.

[MacRumorUser]

ooch does that mean we wont get a remote control and have to use the wireless controller :o

[2nyRiggz]

Okay I'm lost....are we still discussing the PS3 interface or are we talking about a photoshop picture?

Snap back guys.....whip it good.



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[greatdevourer]

Looking at that E3 vid on gametrailers, I'd say that the settings bit (panel? blade? dropdown?) is a prime example of "too simple". The list of options is too long, I'd say, and branching them off would make sense. If they became a grid of icons rather than a list, that would be more acceptable, however

[Mr. Mister]

The PS3 reflection is obviously a fake too. blurred console but super sharp reflection. hmm's.
The reflections in a Sony-released PS3 press picture would be fake as well. Do you think these people actually keep glossy tables around? No, I doubt the consoles themselves are even from photos, it's probably all a Maya adventure.

[Krevnik]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1826796847481689092&hl=en

It basically a clone of the PSP interface. Can't decide how I feel about it. It loses the pazazz of the 360 interface, but the non-intrusive simplicity might be nice when your playing.

Not sure if this was mentioned, but it isn't a clone of the PSP interface, but rather the PSX interface. Not the Playstation, but the PSX, the PVR + PS2 hybrid box that was only sold in Japan for a short time. They adapted the interface for the PSP and the PS3. When it is something you don't spend much time in, and is really just a launcher for the functionality of the box... it does its job. It isn't like you should be using this interface for streaming media/etc, though.

[sikkinixx]

. When it is something you don't spend much time in, and is really just a launcher for the functionality of the box... it does its job.

which is all they need, i dont spend much time on my 360 interface, its a way from getting from menu A to option B as easily as possible...

[seenew]

You guys seem to be too forgiving. You forget you'll be forking over $600 for this system.

[sikkinixx]

You guys seem to be too forgiving. You forget you'll be forking over $600 for this system.

so? people fork over $400 for an iPod video with crappy battery life, limited video functions(yes i know its an iPod WITH video not a video iPod), an extremely scratch prone body and knowing itwill be outdated in 6 months. People forgive all that and buy them anyway.

[zap2]

so? people for over $400 for an iPod video with crappy battery life, limited video functions(yes i know its an iPod WITH video not a video iPod), an extremely scratch prone body and will be outdated in 6 months. People forgive all that and buy them anyway.


I love my iPod..it has great battery life...about 20hrs..and its not going to be "outdated" in 6 monts because its been about 11 months since it came out, and even when they new one comes out, its not going to do outdated, because music playing is going to be much the same as the next one. Please don't compare the iPod to the PS3, as there not alike.

[sikkinixx]

I love my iPod..it has great battery life...about 20hrs..and its not going to be "outdated" in 6 monts because its been about 11 months since it came out, and even when they new one comes out, its not going to do outdated, because music playing is going to be much the same as the next one. Please don't compare the iPod to the PS3, as there not alike.

grumpy, much like a certain House M.D you love.

I never said you didnt love you iPod, I just said that people can forgive shortcomings despite cost. and this ipod has been out a long time, but the point is still that it is going to be outdated soon, whereas the PS3 won't be until they decide to release slimline PS3 4+ years from now

[zap2]

grumpy, much like a certain House M.D you love.

I never said you didnt love you iPod, I just said that people can forgive shortcomings despite cost. and this ipod has been out a long time, but the point is still that it is going to be outdated soon, whereas the PS3 won't be until they decide to release slimline PS3 4+ years from now


iPod and PS3 are 2 very differnet things, there markets are 2 different markets. There are tons of mp3 players, but there are really only 3 main consoles. Also the iPod is updated yealy, the whole market is..the gaming market is different ,they update every 5 years, and at the end of the life of a sytsem sales have slowed, but the get boosted by game sales, iPods on the other hand only make money from the iPod sale..maybe a case somewere along the line..its like Apples and Oranges

[sikkinixx]

iPod and PS3 are 2 very differnet things, there markets are 2 different markets. There are tons of mp3 players, but there are really only 3 main consoles. Also the iPod is updated yealy, the whole market is..the gaming market is different ,they update every 5 years, and at the end of the life of a sytsem sales have slowed, but the get boosted by game sales, iPods on the other hand only make money from the iPod sale..maybe a case somewere along the line..its like Apples and Oranges

yeah yeah, my point was that people are willing to fork over 400 bucks for an iPod despite problems it has, so 600 bucks for a PS3, depite its problems, isn't a huge stretch.

anyway

Not really the PS3 interface,but I dont wanna start ANOTHER PS3 thread and im already here. it's decent video from GC 2006 of the retail PS3 being talked about (I love how the german guy says "ya" about 100 times :))

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=12742&type=wmv

[Mavimao]

(I love how the german guy says "ya" about 100 times :))


it's spelled "ja"

[zap2]

yeah yeah, my point was that people are willing to fork over 400 bucks for an iPod despite problems it has, so 600 bucks for a PS3, depite its problems, isn't a huge stretch.


My point being is the PS3 isn't really 600 bucks, its much more(all game consoles are) because you need to buy console only things like games controller ect..but for an iPod, well buy an iPod and a case...as for music, people buy that even if they don't have an iPod, and the likly already have a lot of music.

[sikkinixx]

My point being is the PS3 isn't really 600 bucks, its much more(all game consoles are) because you need to buy console only things like games controller ect..but for an iPod, well buy an iPod and a case...as for music, people buy that even if they don't have an iPod, and the likly already have a lot of music.


still going on about that? :rolleyes:

it's spelled "ja"

oh ja! ;)

How about this rumored interface?

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/ps3-interface-screens-151897.php

I kinda dig it

[Dagless]

Oh please. could you apply that argument to any of the other $600 consoles? 3DO, Saturn and CD-i? I even think the Amiga CD32 was about that price too. I'll use english prices now on since I understand them better -

iPods here cost ~£230 max, for the highest current model. The PS3 will cost a minimum of £450 here. The 360 costs £270. The Wii is supposed to cost between £120-150. I say the 360 because it's already an established HD console, it does what the PS3 does without a next-gen DVD drive. I say Wii because it's seemingly the console the blogosphere and media are watching.

Music players are priced against each other. iPod, Creative, Sony etc. they're all a similar price. but the consoles aren't. the consoles are priced in huge leaps from each other. comparing the MP3 and console market is a little... daft. Though not wrong. Anything can be compared. We're humans we can make connections, be they creative, logical or whatever, you can compare Apples (brand) to oranges (fruit).

Anyways. what I'm saying is if the iPods where noticeably more expensive than its rivals then it could kiss a chunk of market good bye. But thankfully it's priced competitively and therefore, with its interface and design, wins the hearts of pretty much everyone.

ps. the linked GUI - so, so much negative space. It's pretty alright. something I'd like to see in an exhibition or installation. but for a useable system interface? no thanks. some images there are only taking up 50% of the screen. that on my 20" 720p display? no thanks. I'd rather chew on the HDMI cable.

[2nyRiggz]

ps. the linked GUI - so, so much negative space. It's pretty alright. something I'd like to see in an exhibition or installation. but for a useable system interface? no thanks. some images there are only taking up 50% of the screen. that on my 20" 720p display? no thanks. I'd rather chew on the HDMI cable.

I think its nice really.....I like the simple look with the picture blurr in the background...it doesn't take away from what the console is...no need for complex menus and that sorts....this and the actual one is nice.



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[MacRumorUser]

I think its nice really.....I like the simple look with the picture blurr in the background...it doesn't take away from what the console is...no need for complex menus and that sorts....this and the actual one is nice.



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is that the IGN one or the newly posted one. I prefer the later with the black screen and smoke/ocean ripples.... looked classy..

[2nyRiggz]

Yea the later one....that one is nice.....Man i need to find that E3 footage....that one really looked vista-ish.




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[Dagless]

I trust in the £450 a PS3 is going to cost that they include a set of mini opera styled binoculars to see the menu? Unless you can zoom into it it's just too small.

[2nyRiggz]

^Are you serious jimmi?.....its too small now...like they won't give you an option to change font size. I really need to see nintendos VC:) .



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[MacRumorUser]

^Are you serious jimmi?.....its too small now...like they won't give you an option to change font size. I really need to see nintendos VC:) .



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They are going to provide the menu in 'braille' for the blind too :D

[BlizzardBomb]

Hmmm... for something with so much power, it looks like it could of been pulled straight off an N64. I was expecting something that would look jaw-dropping but as some people have already said, simplicity is better (or is it?).