iTunes 7 is here!

[Platform]

What happend to the chapter selector for enhanced podcasts :confused:

[TJJ]

Ok, mines crashing everytime on the gapless playback scan.. Grrr

Same for me - and i don't know what to do about it.

I never had probs with iTunes before;
i've got approx. 25GB of music and a few movies, running on MBP with enough RAM...

any suggestions?
I didn't find anything on google, this appears to be a rare problem.

thanks


edit: after crash i can't force quit iTunes - i have to shut down completely (pressing power button 2 secs...) - btw my MBP has never had kernel panic nor other probs before iTunes 7...

[skery]

option click on itunes when launching...

http://www.oreillynet.com/mac/blog/images/ituneslibrary.jpg

from http://www.oreillynet.com/mac/blog/2006/09/last_post_i_promise.html?CMP=OTC-13IV03560550&ATT=Last+post+I+promise

[Multimedia]

What happend to the chapter selector for enhanced podcasts :confused:It's in the Controls menu

Command + Shift + Right Arrow Next Chapter and Left Arrow Previous Chapter keyboard combos.

Speaking Of TV Shows For Sale or For Free:

NBC Today Turned High Defintion Today!

Gotta Love That native Today 1920 x 1080i/p on a 23" Apple Cinema Display, 24" iMac or Dell 24" Wide.

Whoopie! Very Big News. :eek: :)

Meanwhile CBS Morning is still a pathetic looking SD. :(

[Chundles]

What happend to the chapter selector for enhanced podcasts :confused:

It's now in the menu bar up the top. Just a menu item, not a button.

[FoxyKaye]

Got to play with iTunes 7 last night at home. It went through 60GB of music and did the gapless search thing. What I didn't realize is that I had stopped listening to some of my albums because the little pause between tracks was so annoying. Pink Floyd, DJ Mixes, The Beatles, Classical music, rave albums - I was astounded how many I skipped over when picking play lists because I was tired of things like getting into a 10 minute track on Ummagumma and suddenly hearing a pause while the next track starts.

Finally gapless playback is in iTunes, and it's not a moment too soon. I'll be glad for it when I buy a new iPod as well...

On another note, I noticed that installing iTunes 7 messed up a few sets of permissions - maybe this could be part of what's causing problems for folks? Maybe try repairing before launching iTunes 7 for the first time - I did this on my computer and it hasn't so much as hiccuped.

I also noticed that lots of traffic on my DSL interferes with the album art search a little (causes it to stutter).

I still contend that this is not the prettiest iTunes release, but the new features are quite remarkable.

[orbital]

So the video at 640x480 works fine on the old 5gen ipods. I encded a movie in Quicktime Pro (which also now supports the new video format). It works great! Whats even better is I have the dock that lets you watch whats on your ipod on TV. and the resolution is NOTICABLE better, as it should be.

As far as it not being pretty, personally I like it a lot more than 6. Though i have to say that this IS the route that apple is going design wise so get used to it :P Brushed steel was so 1999 cool anyway.

[MacNut]

I still don't get why everyone is complaining, iTunes 7 is great once you get past the looks. Gapless playback alone is worth it. The icon looks better in my opinion, It looks crisper and more like a CD then before. I had to squint to even see a difference. So what if some buttons are missing, You can still get to the features with an extra click. The colors are not the best but you can get past that, It has no functionality in how the software works. All in all this is a good update with a lot of new features I've wanted for a long time.

[bobber205]

Forgive me for not reading this HUGE topic, but does anybody else but me think the new icon for iTunes is ugly?

[MacNut]

Has anyone figured out how to fix this?Album Artist is how I solved it. If you have a compilation CD just ad "Various Artists."

[Trench]

Does anyone know where I can get itunes 6 from? It was a big mistake installing this new version. thanks

[ThatWasAwkward]

I'm not sure if someone else has posted a similar problem or not, since this thread is tremendous, but...

My mp3s won't play. Nothing plays. I click on it, I hit the play button, and it just sits there. Nothing happens. Am I missing something?

[mazola]

How do I uninstall 7 and reinstall 6?

As much as I like the new features in 7, I really hate the icon.

Thanks!

[MacNut]

The icon is not worth uninstalling the whole thing, Look up Apples support site, they might have v6

[Malcster]

Same for me - and i don't know what to do about it.

I never had probs with iTunes before;
i've got approx. 25GB of music and a few movies, running on MBP with enough RAM...

any suggestions?
I didn't find anything on google, this appears to be a rare problem.

thanks


--

im back to itunes 6.0.5 now, tried literally everything to get 7 to work but can't (even tried reinstalling OSX) i have no third party apps, im gonna wait for 7.01 before i try it again. (seeing the apple itunes discussion forums, im guessing it wont be far off!)

if its objecting to something in my library then it doesnt give me chance to figure out what it is before crashing, and besides any well written application would skip a dodgy track not fall over because of it.

[bobber205]

I almost had to do a restart. Between a couple of other software updates(nothing too big though) my computer was struggling when 7 first launched...:rolleyes:

[Ugg]

iTunes looks tons better, IMHO. Maybe it's because I'm in my 40s but I like the more subdued look. It's a lot easier to focus on, not so much flash. That might be part of the reason for the makeover, to appeal to an older customer especially now that movies are being sold. How many 15 year olds are going to fork out $15 for a movie? yeah, I thought so...

I'd love to see a demographic breakdown of iTMS customers.

[Jetson]

I was very happy to hear the surprise news that Apple had released an iTunes 7 upgrade - at long last! :D

After reading all the unbelievable amount of whining I was very hesitant to install it. However there were enough posts in here of people who love this upgrade, so my curiosity overcame my caution.

I installed iTunes 7 last night and man, this thing is great. Thank you Apple for all the hard work.

It's not yet perfect by any means, but I like the direction Apple is going with this free app.

I like the appearance, the left column looks okay to me, and the shading looks good. I don't find the icon ugly at all. What's the big deal with everybody on the silly icon - sheesh!

The new features such as coverflow, and gapless playback (finally!) make this well worth the time. The new iPod sync interface is a tremendous improvement from what we had before.

I hope that Apple is reading this forum and taking many of the complaints seriously, because there are a few legitimate glitches. But I'm sure Apple will fix them in the upcoming releases - they responded quickly with iTunes 6 to the point where it was a very stable, beautifully executed app.

I would like to point out a few things I'd like to see in future releases:

Add a preference of no crossfade on gapless tracks
Improve the CD insert printing feature. It's great, but I'd like more user flexibility such as:

ability to set font size
ability to specify the order of cover art on mosaics
ability to select view columns (time, year, composer, etc.)
provide ability to print more than one line per track

Bring back the orange, rotating Burn icon! I loved that thing!
Bring back the Visualizer button conveniently placed at the bottom of the screen
Bring back the colored volume slider knob that turned blue when selected


Thank you Apple for continuing to improve your products.

[ThatWasAwkward]

I'm not sure if someone else has posted a similar problem or not, since this thread is tremendous, but...

My mp3s won't play. Nothing plays. I click on it, I hit the play button, and it just sits there. Nothing happens. Am I missing something?

Okay, nevermind. I checked Apple's iTunes support forum and somebody had the same problem. It turns out the OSS 3D plugin was the problem. I removed it. No OSS 3D, no problem.

[daneoni]

Forgive me for not reading this HUGE topic, but does anybody else but me think the new icon for iTunes is ugly?

I do, i changed it to the old one.

[zero2dash]

I downloaded it for the auto cover art fetching alone.

No complaints so far. It plays audio and hasn't given me any problems, that's all I care about. I could care less what the icon looks like or the color of the scroll bars. :p

Auto cover art = greatest thing ever :D
Looks like I've got some ID tagging to do to fix some others but oh well...still no gripes from me.

[UWF404]

When playing from playlist and it goes to next song the album cover does not change??? I thought the cover would change on every new song playing on the old version??

[PCMacUser]

When playing from playlist and it goes to next song the album cover does not change??? I thought the cover would change on every new song playing on the old version??
In the little cover art box at the bottom left of the window, you need to change the option from 'Selected Item' to 'Now Playing'. This isn't a new thing, except 'Now Playing' was the default in iTunes 6 whereas 'Selected Item' seems to be the default in 7.

[bigdz68]

How do we report a bug? I record audio shows and they are stored as protected AAC files. These no longer show up in my Library....instead they show up in Audiobooks. I always thought of the Library as the full list and then you could break it down. Any thoughts...without having to convert all the protected AAC files to mp3?

The reason they come as protected you mnay ask....when recording with Audio Hijack Pro in AAC...iTunes recognizes them as this! Guess I could record in mp3 now daily instead!

[balamw]

How do we report a bug? I record audio shows and they are stored as protected AAC files. Hijack Pro is doing this to give you the bookmarking and speed control functions only implemented for Audiobooks, perhaps you should check with them if you can disable this behavior and save as a plain jane AAC M4A file instead of M4B.

B

[conradzoo]

Just one thing.

But is it just me or is it that the music on iTunes sound better???

Is that possible?

[bdj21ya]

I thought it was interesting that so many complained about the new icon. I agree that it looks out of place, and looks like they are copying Vista's icon style, but it is so easy in OS X to change the icons of applications. Maybe some of those complaining were Windows users (since the taskbar icon is not user-editable).

[bobber205]

Though easily findable on google, what's the best resource for new iTunes images?

[bigdz68]

Hijack Pro is doing this to give you the bookmarking and speed control functions only implemented for Audiobooks, perhaps you should check with them if you can disable this behavior and save as a plain jane AAC M4A file instead of M4B.

B

Thanks. I will try that. But I also think we should have the abiitlity to see our whole "Library" list without having to go through the categories.

[johnnyjibbs]

I already have coverflow. Apple obviously just bought up the company and shoved in the graphics. Nothing new. New interface is horrible.

AND NOT ANOTHER BLUE ICON!!!

[supremedesigner]

Have anyone successfully downloaded a movie yet from iTunes? I was wondering if they provided a closed caption / subtitles? Please let me know about this. They didn't explain much on iTS. :mad:

[supremedesigner]

I already have coverflow. Apple obviously just bought up the company and shoved in the graphics. Nothing new. New interface is horrible.

AND NOT ANOTHER BLUE ICON!!!

New interface is horrible? That's your opinion but I like this a whole lot better than any interface. This is much improved and I hope Leopard will have same interface like iTS!

[mostman]

Another cool thing I just noticed.

Switch to the Album List view (the middle one).

Click and drag on the album art itself. You can move an entire album to a playlist. I _think_ it also works if you click and drag the album from the cover browser as well.

-Mike

[johnnyjibbs]

Actually, I'm warming to the new interface already! And coverflow is actually better than its previous incarnation as standalone shareware.

But the best bit.... finally... GAPLESS PLAYBACK!!!!!!

[brepublican]

Though easily findable on google, what's the best resource for new iTunes images?
:confused: Do you care to elaborate? If you mean album art, Apple is giving it to everyone who has an account and iTunes 7...

[mazola]

The icon is the deal-breaker for me.

I mean... *blue* (?!?!)

I'm seriously considering a Zune now and I never thought I'd say that.

Apple was bound to make a mis-step sometimes, I guess this is it.

[skyy]

Wow, this thing is really ugly. What's with the matte graphite in the middle of all my nice shiny blue and white? If this is how the pro apps look I'm glad I don't have to use them. And if this is where the Leopard UI is going, I'm sticking with Tiger until Apple comes to their senses.

[Don't panic]

:confused: Do you care to elaborate? If you mean album art, Apple is giving it to everyone who has an account and iTunes 7...

well, in my case there are plenty of albums (approx 1/3) which have not been updated, even after running the 'get album artwork' repeatedly. and several of the updated ones are completely wrong or inaccurate.

I should add that the missing one are present in iTunes and are legit (99% of my music is directly ripped from my CDs).

also, everytime i run the 'get album artwork' command, it will go through all 400 albums. Is there a way to update a single album?

[Ugg]

The icon is the deal-breaker for me.

I mean... *blue* (?!?!)

I'm seriously considering a Zune now and I never thought I'd say that.

Apple was bound to make a mis-step sometimes, I guess this is it.

I can't believe that so many people have issues with the dock icon. What is up with you guys? You'd actually dump Apple, your iPod and all your purchased music for a zune, simply because of the icon color?

I haven't ever seen so much pettiness in my entire life!

[Don't panic]

I can't believe that so many people have issues with the dock icon. What is up with you guys? You'd actually dump Apple, your iPod and all your purchased music for a zune, simply because of the icon color?

I haven't ever seen so much pettiness in my entire life!

I have reason to believe that mazola's post whose making fun of other idiotic posts...

[mazola]

also, everytime i run the 'get album artwork' command, it will go through all 400 albums. Is there a way to update a single album?

Simply highlight the track(s) and control-click on them. There should be a 'Get Album Artwork' option at the bottom of the contextual menu that is selection specific.

[balamw]

Thanks. I will try that. But I also think we should have the abiitlity to see our whole "Library" list without having to go through the categories.
Doesn't stop the fact that M4B files are not supposed to be created by anything but iTMS and be Audiobooks.

It's simple enough to create a Full Library view if you want one just using Smart Playlists. e.g. "Kind contains audio" will catch all your MP3/AAC/M4B files, but not your videos. I don't have any Podcasts here, but I'm sure you could add them in as well even if they don't get captured by such a simple condition.

B

[Ugg]

also, everytime i run the 'get album artwork' command, it will go through all 400 albums. Is there a way to update a single album?

Yep, highlight a song from an album, right click and at the bottom select "get album artwork".

I have quite a few that iTunes has failed to get, a lot of them are classical cds. I don't know where iTunes gets the artwork from. Does it only search iTunes or CDDB or????

[balamw]

Yep, highlight a song from an album, right click and at the bottom select "get album artwork".

I have quite a few that iTunes has failed to get, a lot of them are classical cds. I don't know where iTunes gets the artwork from. Does it only search iTunes or CDDB or????
I get the strong feeling it's CDDB or even something else. There are some albums that I can see on iTMS that it just won't get the artwork for me from. It has also given me bogus results for various comps as it seems to use the artist and song title to find the right album!

B

[mostman]

The artwork comes from Apple. I have been doing some checking on how exactly it works (so that I can see why it fails sometimes).

iTunes sends two requests through. The first one is a search:

GET /WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/coverArtMatch?an=Dave%20Matthews%20Band&gn=Rock&pn=Crash

Notice that the Genre is used in here. I have seen searches succeed without the Genre - but I have also seen some fail _until_ I correct it. It is possible that it needs two of the above three to match for the search to succeed.

Once the search succeeds - it returns a key which is then used to send another request:
GET /r10/Music/y2003/m3/d9/h2/s01.odbbbkvr.600x600-100.jpg?downloadKey2=xxREMOVEDxx

This one you can paste right into Safari and get the art yourself.

[balamw]

Weird. Here's what I get for Shrek 2.

57413

Yet the proper artwork is there (http://http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=7054379&s=143441), and even for the Counting Crows single (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=6907596&s=143441). I can't find this image anywhere on iTMS.

:confused:

B

[andrewface]

The icon is the deal-breaker for me.

I mean... *blue* (?!?!)

I'm seriously considering a Zune now and I never thought I'd say that.

Apple was bound to make a mis-step sometimes, I guess this is it.
haha yup they really ****ed up? why oh why did they use blue...
some people on the board are ridiculous

[balamw]

some people on the board are ridiculous
I think that was the point mazola was making too.

B

[Platform]

It's now in the menu bar up the top. Just a menu item, not a button.

Ah, thanks.....but now there is no way to browse chapters...:mad:

[mazola]

I think that was the point mazola was making too.

No, I really hate blue icons.

AND THEY USED BLUE BEFORE IN VERSION 2.0 !!!

This is progress?

With Zune, the future is brown. :)

[ChrisWB]

Boy is this update ugly. I hate the darkened scrollers, and the darkened grey in general. It looks unpolished.

[Don't panic]

No, I really hate blue icons.

AND THEY USED BLUE BEFORE IN VERSION 2.0 !!!

This is progress?

With Zune, the future is brown. :)

ha! so you caved and used the smilie, eh? ;)


btw, i tried to download the art for the specific album with the contextual menu, but still no luck lots of albums (well over 100).
And while some of the albums are a bit on the obscure side, some are quite classic (Radiohead, Bob Marley, Doors, Dire Straits, REM, etc.) As I said they ARE both in itunes and CDDB, so i don't know what DB they use for art.
Some of the art is interesting but wrong: check the dark side of the moon

[skyy]

Grow up.

Oh, so preferring a consistent, attractive interface is immature? Good to know.

[prostuff1]

I don't mind the look of the new itunes, but for some reason I can't get the **** thing to stop hanging when i plug in my iPod. It actually worked fine not to long ago but now it wont stop with the spinning beach ball.

Anyone have any ideas??

[le sacre]

i'm confused now. is quicktime 7.1.3 absolutely required to install and run itunes, or is it just need if you want to play videos in itunes?

i'm stuck at quicktime 7.0.1, because 7.0.2 and above are incompatible with MATLAB R13. does this mean no itunes 7 at all for me, even just for music?

Yes, you must have QuickTime 7.1.3+ installed

[penter]

do we have to pay for album art??

[balamw]

do we have to pay for album art??
No. It's free, but you do need an iTMS account.

B

[penter]

Boy is this update ugly. I hate the darkened scrollers, and the darkened grey in general. It looks unpolished.

i didnt like it too much either.... the first thing i saw whas the iPod window, and to me it just looked like the screenshot of a peecee program.
though there may be more options, and their layout seems to be easily understood, it looks a little crowded....
dont like too much of the colors used - the variations of grays.
i just think that the look of things look like as if the designers got lazy with their job.
I'm sure, though, that i'll get used to this change, and will eventually grow to like it, but for the time being, i dont like it too much =/

edit: thnx, balamw.

by the way, i dont like the icon either. they went back to how it was in the old days. ugh!

[bousozoku]

...
With Zune, the future is brown. :)

Brown? That makes sense. :D

[babyj]

No. It's free, but you do need an iTMS account.

B

Which is a stroke of genius by Apple.

Lots of people will want to get album art, so they'll register. That means Apple will have all your details and you'll just be a click away from buying some downloads.

Plus they make you think they're doing you a favour by giving you album art for free. When in reality they are getting something valuable in return.

[bigdz68]

Doesn't stop the fact that M4B files are not supposed to be created by anything but iTMS and be Audiobooks.

It's simple enough to create a Full Library view if you want one just using Smart Playlists. e.g. "Kind contains audio" will catch all your MP3/AAC/M4B files, but not your videos. I don't have any Podcasts here, but I'm sure you could add them in as well even if they don't get captured by such a simple condition.

B
I understand that too but v6 had everything in the Library view! Including podcasts and videos and audiobooks! Dont get me wrong...I love the features with v7 but it will take a while to get used to! For the meantime, I will just create a smart playlist and thank you for that because I didn't think of it right off the top of my head! :D

[balamw]

Which is a stroke of genius by Apple.
I'm sure the content providers had a hand in this decision too. They don't want it to be too easy to get high quality album artwork for "free".

I understand that too but v6 had everything in the Library view!
Apart from (the lack of) gapless playback, I think I read more complaints about that behavior than anythin else in iTunes 6. :p I worked around that with Smart Playlists too...

B

[bobber205]

Excuse me for this slightly off-topic query. Where do I click to get the art?

[bigdz68]

I'm sure the content providers had a hand in this decision too. They don't want it to be too easy to get high quality album artwork for "free".


Apart from (the lack of) gapless playback, I think I read more complaints about that behavior than anythin else in iTunes 6. :p I worked around that with Smart Playlists too...

B
Ya...Its definitely worth the little amount of work for the gapless playback in my world. Now about that blue icon in the dock..HAHAHA! JK

[prostuff1]

Well, my problem seems to have resovled itself some how. OH well, guess i will see if it comes back.

[bigdz68]

I don't mind the look of the new itunes, but for some reason I can't get the **** thing to stop hanging when i plug in my iPod. It actually worked fine not to long ago but now it wont stop with the spinning beach ball.

Anyone have any ideas??
Hey prostuff 1
I just plugged mine in too! It is actually determining gapless playback info on it. I was messing around with songs in iTunes and got the beach ball also but now its still plugging away at the files on the iPod. Halfway done since it was analyzing first and now "determining"

[FlipperPhil]

Does anyone know where I can get itunes 6 from? It was a big mistake installing this new version. thanks

Here's the link, on Apple's download page.
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/itunes605forwindows.html

[fBaran]

Not going to search through 23 pages of comments, but when iTunes is running, and you close the windows, you used to be able to hit AppleKey+1 and have the windows reappear. Not anymore, and I can't find the shortcut!

[Don't panic]

Excuse me for this slightly off-topic query. Where do I click to get the art?

if you are registered and online, just go to 'advanced' and select 'get album artwork'
it will get most of your CD's art, mostly right.

[bousozoku]

Which is a stroke of genius by Apple.

Lots of people will want to get album art, so they'll register. That means Apple will have all your details and you'll just be a click away from buying some downloads.

Plus they make you think they're doing you a favour by giving you album art for free. When in reality they are getting something valuable in return.

They've had my details for a year or more but I haven't bought anything yet. I'm the only one getting anything out of the free album art. :)

[zen]

The artwork comes from Apple. I have been doing some checking on how exactly it works (so that I can see why it fails sometimes).

iTunes sends two requests through. The first one is a search:

GET /WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/coverArtMatch?an=Dave%20Matthews%20Band&gn=Rock&pn=Crash

Notice that the Genre is used in here. I have seen searches succeed without the Genre - but I have also seen some fail _until_ I correct it. It is possible that it needs two of the above three to match for the search to succeed.

Once the search succeeds - it returns a key which is then used to send another request:
GET /r10/Music/y2003/m3/d9/h2/s01.odbbbkvr.600x600-100.jpg?downloadKey2=xxREMOVEDxx

This one you can paste right into Safari and get the art yourself.
What do I paste into Safari? And how are you tracking what iTunes is doing? Sorry if these are obvious questions, but I'm having trouble with iTunes not finding about 50% of the CD art I need. You think it is because two out of the three (artist, album name and genre) need to be correct (so by wiping out the genre in the ID tags it might find the albums as it is supposed to)?

[OdduWon]

the new itms sux! they took off the links to the bands homepage and replaced them "with alerts" and "tell a friend" so they can sell more songs. are they now against supporting the artist's live work? maybe more money from the people who see live shows? .......... i thought cover flow was already out??

[zen]

the new itms sux! they took off the links to the bands homepage and replaced them "with alerts" and "tell a friend" so they can sell more songs. are they now against supporting the artist's live work? maybe more money from the people who see live shows? .......... i thought cover flow was already out??
Yeah Coverflow was already out, now Apple have bought it.

But I consider myself to be a Mac power user (and iTunes power user for that matter) and had never, ever, ever heard of coverflow until yesterday. I think it is very cool and a worthy addition to iTunes - that's one less app I need!

[OdduWon]

Yeah Coverflow was already out, now Apple have bought it.

But I consider myself to be a Mac power user (and iTunes power user for that matter) and had never, ever, ever heard of coverflow until yesterday. I think it is very cool and a worthy addition to iTunes - that's one less app I need!
yeah but when leapord comes out we will have ... and i'm very excited about this......coverfall

[zen]

What's that?

[maconservative]

Besides the Gapless Playback, the one thing that makes this iTunes update worthwhile is the ability to edit Season Numbers for TV Shows. I have a number of TV shows that I downloaded before iTMS automatically populated this field. This made sorting on my ViPod a nightmare! Thanks Apple... :D


Still trying to get use to the matte color look though.... :rolleyes:

[OdduWon]

What's that?
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/jonathaniliff/coverfall.jpg my itunes are falling.

[OdduWon]

Besides the Gapless Playback, the one thing that makes this iTunes update worthwhile is the ability to edit Season Numbers for TV Shows. I have a number of TV shows that I downloaded before iTMS automatically populated this field. This made sorting on my ViPod a nightmare! Thanks Apple... :D


Still trying to get use to the matte color look though.... :rolleyes:
yeah i had that problm with seasons i got using handbrake. does cover flow seem to take awhile to load for anyone else?

[cuestakid]

this new store along with the new ipods and iTV, has set the bar for the microsoft iPod rip off extremely high and every player that comes after it-

i am not trying to be a microsoft basher but all i am saying is that while the movie and game selection is limited, no other service or player or service has been able to provide as many great features as the ipod/ apple media store does

[mostman]

What do I paste into Safari? And how are you tracking what iTunes is doing?

Don't paste anything into Safari. I was just showing some of the requests that iTunes makes when you ask for art. When you request the art - a timed key is given back to you so that only you can download it and only for a limited time. Once you are given the key you can connect to server with any browser and get the art.

How did I get these requests? I ran a packet sniffer (ethereal in this case) and filtered out the HTTP traffic (the protocol iTunes uses obviously). Once there, you can see the HTTP request headers which contain the URLS that iTunes is accessing. This is exactly how the clever folks who wrote the iTunes art extractor tools (back before Apple created this key based download stuff) reverse engineered it.

Now - how to fix the ones that don't work. I have no idea honestly. I have tried 10 ways to Sunday to get Dave Matthews - Crash to work - and I can't. Everything on my track information matches the information on the iTunes store - and no dice. Yet I _know_ they have the album art. So my guess is that they are using another service (CDDB?) to get the ISDN of the CD using the above mentioned tags. From that, they are getting their album art.

If we knew what they were using to search - we could match the information to the source. Sadly, we do not.

-Mike

[ariza910]

Wow, you can now tag your own videos (not purchased on iTunes) as TV shows!!!!

this is awesome! now all the tv shows I import from my El Gato EyeTV can be tagged properly as TV shows, and they show up in the appropriate menue on my iPod and FrontRow!

[Dahl]

Some people have mentioned the change of icon color from green to blue, I don't mind the color, but I'm not a fan of the actual icon.
Since it's iTunes Store and not iTunes Music Store, shouldn't Apple try and come up with an icon, that represents all the different kinds of media?

[needthephone]

Was about to download it when I read this article that its plagued with bugs-is it true?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/digital-music/new-itunes-version-a-lemon/2006/09/14/1157827068657.html

[Synapple]

Was about to download it when I read this article that its plagued with bugs-is it true?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/digital-music/new-itunes-version-a-lemon/2006/09/14/1157827068657.html

Although a small percentage of those posting about the new software reported no problems at all, many agreed that Apple needed to address some of the issues being reported in forums, which are attracting thousands of views.

Quite the opposite in reality then, I would say.
Seems very natural to me that those with problems will post their complaints while those with no problems won't have anything to post about in the first place.
My iTunes works fine and better than ever in all respects.
Coverflow does not load but neither did the previous standalone application on my system.

[surfsofa]

Does the artwork feature increase the size of every single song file by adding the art to each file?

Just want to know before I allow iTunes to reduce the number of songs I can fit on my Nano.


Otherwise - nice update, but they need to pay a bit more attention to those aesthetics for the next imo.

[bluejacket]

I would like to point out a few things I'd like to see in future releases:
[INDENT][LIST=1]
Add a preference of no crossfade on gapless tracks


This already exists. Check 'Get Info' and turn on 'gapless album' this is distinct from iTunes ability to recognise which tracks should play as gapless.

[inlimbo]

Quite the opposite in reality then, I would say.
Seems very natural to me that those with problems will post their complaints while those with no problems won't have anything to post about in the first place.
My iTunes works fine and better than ever in all respects.
Coverflow does not load but neither did the previous standalone application on my system.

I tried importing a mp4 file today and I couldn't get the bloody thing to play nor import! I guess they will send out an update soon to fix the little quirks.

Anyone noticed this:

"Multiple Libraries

Build your collection over multiple libraries, and keep them on different hard drives to save space."

http://www.apple.com/au/itunes/overview/

Explain how!? :(

[zeppiecr]

How come when I updated to version 7 my icon didn't change?

[aswitcher]

I tried importing a mp4 file today and I couldn't get the bloody thing to play nor import! I guess they will send out an update soon to fix the little quirks.

Anyone noticed this:

"Multiple Libraries

Build your collection over multiple libraries, and keep them on different hard drives to save space."

http://www.apple.com/au/itunes/overview/

Explain how!? :(

Someone said you press Alt/Option when opening iTunes...but it doesn't work for me.

[Warbrain]

How come when I updated to version 7 my icon didn't change?

Have you opened it since the upgrade? The dock sometimes takes more time to update icons.

And I just realized that I automatically capitalize the next letter after I type something that starts with an 'i'. I just did it with iCons.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

How come when I updated to version 7 my icon didn't change?Did you have a custom icon...? I had that, which I'd just pasted onto the icon in the Get Info window of the iTunes.app, and didn't get to see the nice blue one until I opened the Get Info again and deleted the custom icon (I used the iTunes 1 icon). :)

[inlimbo]

Someone said you press Alt/Option when opening iTunes...but it doesn't work for me.

Thanks aswitcher. I played around and its alt+command.

And its pretty crap. It looks like you what it does is creates a new iTunes folder. And you have to open and close iTunes (using the alt+command) if you want to switch between libraries. i.e. its like having 2 accounts on your machine.

So im very disappointed :(

[zeppiecr]

I mean its been two days now and I've restarted and it still didn't update the icon, obviously not really a big deal...but i like to have all the bells and whistles

[someguy]

I mean its been two days now and I've restarted and it still didn't update the icon, obviously not really a big deal...but i like to have all the bells and whistles
Like others have said, you probably have a custom iTunes icon.

[Synapple]

I tried importing a mp4 file today and I couldn't get the bloody thing to play nor import! I guess they will send out an update soon to fix the little quirks.

Anyone noticed this:

"Multiple Libraries

Build your collection over multiple libraries, and keep them on different hard drives to save space."

http://www.apple.com/au/itunes/overview/

Explain how!? :(

I'm sorry for your problems and I'm not saying iTunes 7 does not have any bugs or couldn't do with some fixes: I'm just debating the validity of an article that brands the update "a lemon" on the basis of the sentence I quoted which is statistically and by pure logic simply untrue.

This said, my videos would neither play nor import until I updated Quicktime to 7.1.3: after the update everything is very smooth and playback is way better than the last version.

The bit about multiple libraries is very misleading on Apple's part: you cannot have multiple libraries and span them across different drives. Each library needs to reside on a single drive and, as other posters have explained, you need to quit and relaunch to change library. Which makes this a non-feature IMHO.

[milo]

You are right the Amazon UI sucks but Amazon did one thing that is very important to me. They offered rentals. I would much rather rent a movie for $3.99 from the Amazon store than buy a movie for $14.99 from the Apple one. If I want to watch it more than once Ill go get the DVD for less with all of the nice casing and extra features. I'm not really sure who in their right mind would pay these prices for content without physical media and I can't see people ripping all of their DVDs into iTunes either so it seems to me that this feature is dead in the water and so is the streaming media device. On-Demand from Verizon Fios if you have it in your area has this beat hands down. So does Netflix, Amazon, the video stores and buying the actual DVD from Walmart or Bestbuy for that matter IMO...

Most people renting are probably already using Netflix, which is virtually impossible to compete with, so why bother.

I think the price isn't too bad, at least for new releases. You're not going to get anywhere close to $12.99 for most movies. And I probably will rip all my DVD's, I've started already.

so all with 5G iPod Video as from today with updated iPod internal software 1.2 have the latest iPod

Not completely true. Previous 5G doesn't get the new search function.

[autrefois]

The folks at Apple have apparently decided that new TV shows you download after installing iTunes 7 will be placed in a folder called "TV Shows". Problem is, old TV shows that used to be filed under the title of the show are still in those old folders.

So I now have for example some episodes of The Colbert Report in iTunes Music > The Colbert Report and others will be in a folder called iTunes Music > TV Shows > The Colbert Report. Couldn't they have kept the old system or moved TV shows that were already in iTunes before you update into the TV Shows folder?

This in a addition to the fact that episodes are apparently going to run about 250 MB a piece instead of about 100 MB each, meaning longer downloads and me having to move them from my laptop to my Power Mac more often due to a lack of space...And I will run out of space more quickly there eventually.

Why couldn't they give people the choice of which video quality they want? [/whining]

[bluejacket]

The folks at Apple have apparently decided that new TV shows you download after installing iTunes 7 will be placed in a folder called "TV Shows". Problem is, old TV shows that used to be filed under the title of the show are still in those old folders.

So I now have for example some episodes of The Colbert Report in iTunes Music > The Colbert Report and others will be in a folder called iTunes Music > TV Shows > The Colbert Report. Couldn't they have kept the old system or moved TV shows that were already in iTunes before you update into the TV Shows folder?

This in a addition to the fact that episodes are apparently going to run about 250 MB a piece instead of about 100 MB each, meaning longer downloads and me having to move them from my laptop to my Power Mac more often due to a lack of space...And I will run out of space more quickly there eventually.

Why couldn't they give people the choice of which video quality they want? [/whining]

Update them using get-info.

[Surreal]

Apple uses the titles and information from the iTunes Store. they have some artwork for albums which are not in the store.

on some compilations, the simplest way to MAKE it work say it isnt a compilation and then get artwork for those; once it grabs one cover (it will grab as many as there are tracks...so click stop)

i have spent a good amount of time and now have maybe 95% out of 500 covers, not bad.

anyone noticed that SOME covers simply DO NOT preload? i wonder what file format that is...and if there is a fix.

[m-dogg]

Sorry for the OT, but there's no other way to contact decksnap here or I'd have sent a PM.

Speaking of your cat's breath: have you tried feeding it some greens? I have 2 cats here that, I recently discovered, like fresh spinach. Weirdest thing I ever saw our cats do. One of 'em actually loves the stuff and will eat it any time, apparently.

You know "My cat's breath smells like cat food" is a Simpsons reference, don't you? Ralph Wiggum said it if I recall correctly...

[psychofreak]

I havent read all of the gazillion replies to this, but of the few I have, my favourite new feature has not been mentioned; You can now burn to DVD as well as CD. By the way, i love the new interface, but do not like CoverFlow view. Also, does anyone know the new abbreviation because iTS looks rubbish against iTMS, but thats only my opinion, and I am a switcher, so I doubt I count for much. The new (or very old-like) icon is growing on me, at first I hated it but now I'm not so sure, now most of my dock has blue in it: finder, mail, iChat, iTunes, Microsoft messenger, iMovie, iDVD, Quicktime, Pages (ish), Keynote (kinda), Skype, Acqlite and Word.

[Axeon]

I wonder if Apple is trying to streamline the look of the consumer-Mac apps using the color blue. Finder, Mail.app, Safari, iTunes, iDVD, iMovie, Quicktime, and Spotlight are all blue now. Only iWork and iPhoto aren't.

[balamw]

I havent read all of the gazillion replies to this, but of the few I have, my favourite new feature has not been mentioned; You can now burn to DVD as well as CD.
:confused: I've burned plenty of data DVDs from iTunes 6. That's how I back up and also how I archive podcasts.

B

[Project]

Wow, you can drag the COVERFLOW artwork to your iPod to add it, or to playlists etc. All the associated tracks with that artwork get added.

ITs these small little details that keep me loving iTunes.

[milo]

Weird. Here's what I get for Shrek 2.

That is strange, especially since I also have shrek 2 and it gave me the right one.

One bummer about 7, and it looks intentional on Apple's part - they took out the option for shuffles "Keep this iPod in the source list". Not huge, but still annoying since that was a useful feature and now there's no way to tweak the list or even see what's on your shuffle from the mac when it's not plugged in.

[Jetson]

This already exists. Check 'Get Info' and turn on 'gapless album' this is distinct from iTunes ability to recognise which tracks should play as gapless.
Thanks bluejacket!

I tried your tip and it works great :cool:

[bosrs1]

How do you disable the "mini store" in iTunes 7? The little option button they used to have is gone...

[zen]

How do you disable the "mini store" in iTunes 7? The little option button they used to have is gone...
View menu > Show/Hide ministore.

Took me ages to find it - I wanted to turn it on so I could check my library against the iTMS to make sure the artwork downloads were working!

Shame some of the buttons have done - took me ages, again, to figure out where the burn CD button had gone!

[balamw]

One bummer about 7, and it looks intentional on Apple's part - they took out the option for shuffles "Keep this iPod in the source list". Not huge, but still annoying since that was a useful feature and now there's no way to tweak the list or even see what's on your shuffle from the mac when it's not plugged in.
Yeah, I was actually hoping they'd extend that feature to the larger 'Pods, I can never remember what I sync to my wife's Mini and she rarely syncs it, so I keep forgetting to add certain tracks she wants to her playlists...

Not a big deal for Shrek in particular for me since I downloaded the artwork at home from the old website, but the copy I had at work didn't have any artwork...

B

[powerbook911]

I must say that iTunes 7 is making me enjoy my music more than ever.

I find the new interface fantastic. Furthermore, the speed of the program has improved incredibly. I couldn't be happier. iTunes 7 is a nice treat.

[A.T.]

Is anyone else experiencing problems when importing a CD into iTunes 7? I now takes over an hour to import a 50 minutes CD. It's driving me crazy.:mad:

A

[MacinDoc]

Is anyone else experiencing problems when importing a CD into iTunes 7? I now takes over an hour to import a 50 minutes CD. It's driving me crazy.:mad:

A
Chances are, there's a scratch or smudge on your CD if it's taking that long. Take the CD out of the drive and have a look.

[DMann]

Sigh. I don't know why I bothered downloading this -- I should have known by now that every new iTunes update consists of useless eye candy, a few nice but nonessential (for me) improvements, an uglier interface, and a whole lot of new hassles. I thought I was safe by saving iTunes 6 apart so I'd have it to go back to if necessary, but now it sounds like even that might be a hassle because of library changes?

The video playback is totally screwed for me. First of all, I have no actual movie-movies in iTunes and never will. I have maybe a dozen TV shows, most of which are freebies, and I never watch any of them more than once. The videos that I do watch are video podcasts and music videos. None of the latter have been downloaded from iTunes -- most are WMVs converted to MOVs, and still mislabeled because iTunes automatically assigns them as movies and I haven't yet manually relabeled them all as music videos.

So, in iTunes 6, I could listen to my morning playlist, which alternates news podcasts with songs. Some of these are videos, some aren't. A track would come on and go to full screen, so I can watch it while still wandering about the house getting ready for the day. If I needed to do something on the computer, all I had to do was click anywhere on the screen, the video would shrink into the artwork pane but keep playing, I could do whatever, then click on the button to make it go back to full screen.

Now, when a video goes to full screen, it has that ugly slider plastered over it, a slider that I'm not going to use for anything under half an hour, which is most of my videos. To get my screen back, I have to click once to get back the slider if it's already faded (which it doesn't do quickly enough), then click again specifically in the little box on the slider. Once the video has shrunk, it DOESN'T KEEP PLAYING. Only the audio does, the video doesn't. Maybe it's too hard for the Apple guys, but I for one am perfectly capable of watching a video and fiddling with my to-do list at the same time when they're two inches apart on my screen -- there is no reason to lose the video feed. And when I'm done, it now takes two clicks instead of one to get back to full screen.

Please, please someone tell me there's a way around these annoyances.

Please, bring back Aqua!

[A.T.]

It's been happening with every CD I've tried to import since upgrading. There are quite a few experiencing the same thing, as I checked the Apple iTunes discussion forum.

The last CD I imported took an hour and a half!

[DMann]

i didnt like it too much either.... the first thing i saw whas the iPod window, and to me it just looked like the screenshot of a peecee program.
though there may be more options, and their layout seems to be easily understood, it looks a little crowded....
dont like too much of the colors used - the variations of grays.
i just think that the look of things look like as if the designers got lazy with their job.
I'm sure, though, that i'll get used to this change, and will eventually grow to like it, but for the time being, i dont like it too much =/

edit: thnx, balamw.

by the way, i dont like the icon either. they went back to how it was in the old days. ugh!

Please, bring back Aqua - more elegant, and provides the feel of 3D.
Why regress to mediocre flatness when we have OS X and Core Graphics?

[MacinDoc]

It's been happening with every CD I've tried to import since upgrading. There are quite a few experiencing the same thing, as I checked the Apple iTunes discussion forum.

The last CD I imported took an hour and a half!
That's strange, it's importing at 10-12X speed on my iMac.

[MacinDoc]

Please, bring back Aqua - more elegant, and provides the feel of 3D.
Why regress to mediocre flatness when we have OS X and Core Graphics?
Yes, the icons and scroll bars in iTunes 7 are remarkably...Windows-like!!! :mad: :( :eek:

[DMann]

I'm with you. The new iTunes looks so dreary. It makes me tetchy.

Why reinvent the wheel? Aqua GUI is superior!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, the new interface looks nice! As for this being a sneak peak of Leopard, I have to admit it....compared to the new glass UI in Vista....Im kinda diggin the glass interface over this.

Flat vs. 3D elegance!

Before:

Steve Jobs introduces OS X and announces that the all of the buttons and controls in OS X look so good, you'll want to walk up to the screen and lick it. (Seriously, that's what he said).

After:

Steve Jobs announces iTunes 7 and after seeing the buttons and controls, I want to walk up to my screen and hurl.

And why, oh why was the visualizer button removed? Did it look...too good?

This new GUI is FAR from lickable, let alone likeable.

Look at the jaggies on the itunes 7 icon when you apple-tab. Bleah. Did they switch graphic designers or what?

What ever happened to the lush, high-end graphics we've so become
accustomed to?

I hate it. Gimme back my iTunes 6

At least give us a choice in appearance prefs to return to
iTunes 6 themes.

We're not the only ones who think so.

Dissecting iTunes (http://dsandler.org/gruntle/itunes7/iTunes7Dissected.pdf)

Why must we humor XP? Bring back Aqua.

I like the features iTunes 7 offers, but the look of iTunes 6. I'm also interested in the answer to iGary's question.

The look of iTunes 6 far surpasses the chinciness of 7.

IMO the new sliders fit better with the understated Tiger Apple menu icon, Spotlight icon etc. The traditional bright Aqua look began disappearing from OS X when Tiger was released. In fact, if you take away the obligitory red/yellow/green window controls, there isn't much of the early Aqua-ness left in iTunes 7.

Personally, I like it. I remember being disappointed when the iTunes 6 gunmetal interface was released, moving away completely from the brushed metal theme. But I recently used iTunes 4 on a friends PowerBook, and it looked absolutely hideous! :eek:

True, the brushed metal was hideous indeed, but the 3D elegance
and motion of Aqua sliders is much more attractive and pleasing
to the palate IMHO.

I don't like the GUI either. I like my shiny blue "pill" scrollers. Gunmetal makes it look like a linux program. The buttons have lost their shine. The flip catalogue of albums is great, though. Only I've lost some of my artwork.

I hope leopard doesn't unify this theme into all of the iLife apps.

Please, no! Bring back the GUI which separates OS X from the rest.

WTF have they done?? I think I'm going to overwrite the new control buttons with the old ones.

Can you do that easily with hacking the @#$#@ out of it??

ugghhh. You can call it whining. I call it telling it like it is. Before and after.

Love the 3d Aqua crystal reflection on the buttons.
The flat and fuzzy look is fine for Linux... bring
back the Aqua elegance.

Right on. You can tell at a glance, with the old style, that the FWD and REW buttons are not being used, and all the buttons are easier to see, which is the point of having buttons in a visual interface in the first place.

Function and beauty all at once.... no reason to compromise.

For gods sake, what a bunch of whiners.

It's a neat sleek user interface and I really like the changes. It looks less cluttered, and more importantly easier to use. Everything has nice clear spacing - and the move away from Aqua which has been with us forever is NOT a bad thing.

Aqua looks a little outdated now, and I like the fact that Apple are experimenting with new design ideas. I hope iTunes is the template that affects the rest of the OS.

Aqua is far from being outdated. It offers 3D elegance in a flat
environment, pleasing to the eye, and functional to a greater degree.
At teh very least, give us a choice.

iTunes 7 is ugly.

And so is its icon.

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5268/animpukebz9.gif

OOOOgly without Aqua.

The graphics aren't that bad aside from the grey scroll bars. I do miss the equalizer button tho.

Flat, grey, and lifeless.

[toughboy]

Again as I stated before... Apple is really starting to dabble in the 3D interface. The album art is a good example of this. Granted its a rip off of someone else's idea...No idea of the name of the app but I was playing around with it a few months back that did exactly this. *shrugs* Whatever. It makes me wonder if there is any serious GUI updates for 10.5 that we have yet to see.

Apple didn't "rip off" anything.. They paid an intellectual property owner for its work and bought it.. Google "cover flow" and see yourself..

[inlimbo]

I'm sorry for your problems and I'm not saying iTunes 7 does not have any bugs or couldn't do with some fixes: I'm just debating the validity of an article that brands the update "a lemon" on the basis of the sentence I quoted which is statistically and by pure logic simply untrue.

This said, my videos would neither play nor import until I updated Quicktime to 7.1.3: after the update everything is very smooth and playback is way better than the last version.

The bit about multiple libraries is very misleading on Apple's part: you cannot have multiple libraries and span them across different drives. Each library needs to reside on a single drive and, as other posters have explained, you need to quit and relaunch to change library. Which makes this a non-feature IMHO.

Thanks Synapple! I installed the latest QuickTime update and that fixed my importing problem.

I agree. I think it is very misleading re multiple libraries.

Apple didn't "rip off" anything.. They paid an intellectual property owner for its work and bought it.. Google "cover flow" and see yourself..

How much do you think they paid for that? I guess it made that software developer a pretty penny :)

[Kashchei]

I apologize if someone has already made this point, but is anyone else bothered by initial "Loading iTunes Library" routine that occurs after starting the program? I have around 60 Gb of music in my library and loading this library takes a bit of time. iTunes 6 didn't do this, so this new update seems to be a step backwards in at least one respect.

[MacinDoc]

Why reinvent the wheel? Aqua GUI is superior!



Flat vs. 3D elegance!



This new GUI is FAR from lickable, let alone likeable.



What ever happened to the lush, high-end graphics we've so become
accustomed to?



At least give us a choice in appearance prefs to return to
iTunes 6 themes.



Why must we humor XP? Bring back Aqua.



The look of iTunes 6 far surpasses the chinciness of 7.



True, the brushed metal was hideous indeed, but the 3D elegance
and motion of Aqua sliders is much more attractive and pleasing
to the palate IMHO.



Please, no! Bring back the GUI which separates OS X from the rest.



Can you do that easily with hacking the @#$#@ out of it??



Love the 3d Aqua crystal reflection on the buttons.
The flat and fuzzy look is fine for Linux... bring
back the Aqua elegance.



Function and beauty all at once.... no reason to compromise.



Aqua is far from being outdated. It offers 3D elegance in a flat
environment, pleasing to the eye, and functional to a greater degree.
At teh very least, give us a choice.



OOOOgly without Aqua.



Flat, grey, and lifeless.
Trying to break the record for most quotes in a single post?
Seriously, though, I hate the icons and scroll bars, but at least the iTunes icon itself looks nice...:rolleyes:

[autrefois]

does anyone know the new abbreviation because iTS looks rubbish against iTMS, but thats only my opinion

Good question. iTS won't work as well, it's like the word its/it's. iS wouldn't work either IMO.

One could argue for iTMMS, iTunes Music & Movies Store, but apparently Apple did not think this would sound good.

I think we should keep calling it iTMS!!

[Don't panic]

Good question. iTS won't work as well, it's like the word its/it's. iS wouldn't work either IMO.

One could argue for iTMMS, iTunes Music & Movies Store, but apparently Apple did not think this would sound good.

I think we should keep calling it iTMS!!


as in iTunes Media Store? ;)

[fetchmebeers]

A bit off topic, but does anyone know if search function is compatible with the 'old' 5gen ipod video?

After upgrading to ipod software version 1.2, I've been able to enjoy most of the features that I thought to be only compatible with the new 5gens including seamless music playing, faster scrolling, and a slight change in font.... and stuff.

But what about search function? Does the new software 1.2 provide that function as well?

Well at first I thought not, but while I was frantically scrolling all the way from top to bottom I noticed some random alphabets popping up intermittently; like the letter P, A and sometimes random numbers(if I remember correctly, it was a combination of the figure 1,2,3...)... and since I only recently purchased this old 5gen, I'm not really sure if this is a hopeful sign of the existence of search function of any sort or these kind of random appearance of words happened before I updated to 1.2 as well....

not sure on that one, and also cannot really say that I understand what those random letters meant.... they didn't do anything in effect, rather they just popped up out of nowhere and merely disappeared within a 1-2 second period; I tried to revive it by scrolling again, but it didn't happen soon, it was a day or to later that I again spotted those random letters....

So anyone, care to help this poor n00b out?? Thanks in advance!

[daneoni]

Sigh. I don't know why I bothered downloading this -- I should have known by now that every new iTunes update consists of useless eye candy, a few nice but nonessential (for me) improvements, an uglier interface, and a whole lot of new hassles. I thought I was safe by saving iTunes 6 apart so I'd have it to go back to if necessary, but now it sounds like even that might be a hassle because of library changes?

The video playback is totally screwed for me. First of all, I have no actual movie-movies in iTunes and never will. I have maybe a dozen TV shows, most of which are freebies, and I never watch any of them more than once. The videos that I do watch are video podcasts and music videos. None of the latter have been downloaded from iTunes -- most are WMVs converted to MOVs, and still mislabeled because iTunes automatically assigns them as movies and I haven't yet manually relabeled them all as music videos.

So, in iTunes 6, I could listen to my morning playlist, which alternates news podcasts with songs. Some of these are videos, some aren't. A track would come on and go to full screen, so I can watch it while still wandering about the house getting ready for the day. If I needed to do something on the computer, all I had to do was click anywhere on the screen, the video would shrink into the artwork pane but keep playing, I could do whatever, then click on the button to make it go back to full screen.

Now, when a video goes to full screen, it has that ugly slider plastered over it, a slider that I'm not going to use for anything under half an hour, which is most of my videos. To get my screen back, I have to click once to get back the slider if it's already faded (which it doesn't do quickly enough), then click again specifically in the little box on the slider. Once the video has shrunk, it DOESN'T KEEP PLAYING. Only the audio does, the video doesn't. Maybe it's too hard for the Apple guys, but I for one am perfectly capable of watching a video and fiddling with my to-do list at the same time when they're two inches apart on my screen -- there is no reason to lose the video feed. And when I'm done, it now takes two clicks instead of one to get back to full screen.

Please, please someone tell me there's a way around these annoyances.

I think the solution to your video issue is to set iTunes to play videos in the main screen and not on a separate window, this will allow you to switch between album art window and a bigger window with the video still playing in all cases BUT the trade off is when your playing your playlist the video will not come on in a separate window but rather remain in the album art window you have to click it to go bigger. The video however will play in the album art area regardless.

Hope this makes sense

[aafuss1]

CoverFlow has a striking resemblence to Encarta's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encarta) "Visual Browser"-a way to flip thru articles, with animation.
Pic-http://www.itreviews.co.uk/graphics/normal/software/s221.jpg

CoverFlow looks a lot like it-works the same way as Encarta on XP, but with a Vista-esque "flip.

[duklaprague]

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet - not after 12 pages at least.

But with the 3 views now - if you select an artist in the artist window, it filters that artists albums out in the traditional view, and in the middle one that shows the covers and tracks - but switch to the cover flow view, and it only ever shows all covers, rather than just the covers of the currently highlighted artists.

If that makes sense? Shouldn't it just show the covers of the selected artist, like the other two views?

Iain

[Kuska]

Anyone know how to replace existing album artwork. The new artwork view looks awesome - unfortunately the quality of some of my existing artwork does not :(

[duklaprague]

How many times have you watched each one of those DVDs? Because at the iTMS prices you would have to watch them about 4 times each before renting wouldn't be a better deal. There are only a few movies in my 300+ DVD collection that I have watched more than 4 times and if I can get them on demand anytime I really could care less if I have a hard copy...That being said, I bought most of my movies for $5 previously viewed from Blockbuster so only Netflix would be a better deal in that case.

I know you like to own the physical media but if what you are buying is actually the content not the disc then it doesn't make much sense with on demand available. Sorry, that last part was just my opinion which I should have labeld with a disclaimer I guess.

I agree up t a point about the buy v rent thing.

But if people buy actual DVDs rather than rent why not buy then from ITMS? I suppose there's the whole cover art, packaging, quality issues - but that hasn't stopped people buying music.

Iain

[UWF404]

I just realized iTunes 7 does not warn you if you attempt to buy item already purchased. :mad:

Somehow I downloaded the same episode of a TV show and got no warning at all! Thanks APPLE! :mad: The older version use to give you a pop up warning.

[balamw]

I just realized iTunes 7 does not warn you if you attempt to buy item already purchased. :mad:

Somehow I downloaded the same episode of a TV show and got no warning at all! Thanks APPLE! :mad: The older version use to give you a pop up warning.
Was the old version 320x240 and the new one hi res?

B

[~Shard~]

After catching up on this thread, I have decided not to upgrade to iTunes 7 just yet. Sounds like there are quite a number of hassles, complaints, etc., so I'm going to go with the motto, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" - well, at least for now. ;)

I'll eventually upgrade, I'm just not in a rush especially after reading some of these comments.

[UWF404]

Was the old version 320x240 and the new one hi res?

B

I think so :confused: download the show Weeds by Showtime.

[phairphan]

I just realized iTunes 7 does not warn you if you attempt to buy item already purchased. :mad:

Somehow I downloaded the same episode of a TV show and got no warning at all! Thanks APPLE! :mad: The older version use to give you a pop up warning.

That's odd. I re-purchased two music videos I had previously purchased in the lower resolution format and received a pop-up warning for both of them.

BTW, be cautious if you "upgrade" your content. I'm convinced that neither of these videos was re-encoded from a high-res master, but simply up-converted. I can do that on my own, thanks.

[pavetheforest]

I'll start downloading movies when apple starts upping the resolution and quality. I know transfer rates would be sllooowww but seriously....who wants to watch movies in a quicktime window? Ipod+movies on the go = sweet but otherwise...no thank you.

[~Shard~]

I'll start downloading movies when apple starts upping the resolution and quality. I know transfer rates would be sllooowww but seriously....who wants to watch movies in a quicktime window? Ipod+movies on the go = sweet but otherwise...no thank you.

Yeah, and that's the conundrum - people want higher quality files, yet the file sizes and resulting transfer times would be much longer. It's difficult to find a happy medium which will make everyone happy. Well, actually it's probably an impossibility. ;)

[Cinematographer]

Anyone know how to replace existing album artwork. The new artwork view looks awesome - unfortunately the quality of some of my existing artwork does not :(

You select all the songs with minor quality artwork (or you make a playlist out of them), then you choose Cmd-I (Win: Ctrl-I) and turn the artwork field to blank by checking the box near the artwork field. Afterwards you let iTunes search for the better quality covers.

[VCH]

Thank You Apple. Now all my stolen music has album art. Seriously the iTS and iT in general are so sweet.

[Cinematographer]

It probably has been mentioned before: Folders in the source list are spring loading in iTunes 7. :) Cool. :D

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

It probably has been mentioned before: Folders in the source list are spring loading in iTunes 7. :) Cool. :DThis was new in version 6... but at the same time rendered near-obsolete by the addition of the Add to Playlist -> and Show in Playlist -> items on the right/ctrl-click context menu... ;)

[Cinematographer]

Oooops. Do I know my favourite programm that bad? :)

[flinstone]

Does anybody know where to find the resources for the colour scheme in itunes 7?
(are that pictures of button's and scroll-bars or something?)
I want to get rid of the UGLY scroll bars and other UGLINESS in that damned update. Please help if you know how these things work.
Thanks. I tried to copy paste an icon i found into the new icon and now it's a tiny icon?? (but the old non XP alike!!!)

?? Can i still install itunes 6??
Thanks

[Kuska]

You select all the songs with minor quality artwork (or you make a playlist out of them), then you choose Cmd-I (Win: Ctrl-I) and turn the artwork field to blank by checking the box near the artwork field. Afterwards you let iTunes search for the better quality covers.

Thanks Cinematographer - I'll have this library up to date in no time!! :D

[decksnap]

Does anybody know where to find the resources for the colour scheme in itunes 7?
(are that pictures of button's and scroll-bars or something?)
I want to get rid of the UGLY scroll bars and other UGLINESS in that damned update. Please help if you know how these things work.
Thanks. I tried to copy paste an icon i found into the new icon and now it's a tiny icon?? (but the old non XP alike!!!)

?? Can i still install itunes 6??
Thanks

Go over to this thread..

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=233414

[penter]

how can I make the left and right arrows work for changing songs when in cover browser view?? i'm used to pressing the left and right arrows to change songs, but now it works for flipping through album art.....
anyone understand what im talking about??

[johnmcboston]

Wow. Surprised this thread is still going strong. :)

Had an itunes thought today - Anyone know if they have a new mp3 compression engine?

A while ago I happened to have two mp3a of a song - one recently compressed with itunes. And one from many years ago I had ripped with SoundJam. The SoundJam one sounded a whole lot better! Discussing that in another thread, apparently the SoundJam team went to great lengths to make a good compression implementation, while itunes/apple just took a generic one off the shelf.


now that itunes 7 seems to be all about movie quality - anyone know if in itunes 7 they may have finally gotten a better mp3 algorithm?

- J

[CyberB0b]

how can I make the left and right arrows work for changing songs when in cover browser view?? i'm used to pressing the left and right arrows to change songs, but now it works for flipping through album art.....
anyone understand what im talking about??

Click on "Music" in the LIBRARY section and the left and right buttons will change the song just like in list view.

[bousozoku]

Wow. Surprised this thread is still going strong. :)

Had an itunes thought today - Anyone know if they have a new mp3 compression engine?

A while ago I happened to have two mp3a of a song - one recently compressed with itunes. And one from many years ago I had ripped with SoundJam. The SoundJam one sounded a whole lot better! Discussing that in another thread, apparently the SoundJam team went to great lengths to make a good compression implementation, while itunes/apple just took a generic one off the shelf.


now that itunes 7 seems to be all about movie quality - anyone know if in itunes 7 they may have finally gotten a better mp3 algorithm?

- J

Wasn't SoundJam bought by Apple and it became iTunes? ;)

I haven't heard anything about better mp3 compression for iTunes. mp3pro has been available for years and was supposed to halve the size of ripped files, wasn't it? Also, we're waiting for AACplus. The delay most likely has to do with licensing restrictions. However, I believe that Apple has improved the AAC compression. Besides, they introduced the Apple Lossless coded.

[ingenious]

You know "My cat's breath smells like cat food" is a Simpsons reference, don't you? Ralph Wiggum said it if I recall correctly...


I have no idea, but if the quoted poster's cat is eating spinach, he might be in for trouble with some E. coli bacteria (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/northern_california/15528114.htm)...

[ingenious]

I'll start downloading movies when apple starts upping the resolution and quality. I know transfer rates would be sllooowww but seriously....who wants to watch movies in a quicktime window? Ipod+movies on the go = sweet but otherwise...no thank you.

I don't know about you, but the movie I downloaded was excellent quality! Very near DVD, I would say. It definitely lives up to what Apple says.

[ingenious]

The only complaint I have with this otherwise wonderful release is that I cannot get iTunes 7 to allow me to resume paused downloads. My downloads also get interrupted all of the time for some reason and I can't resume them. It's kind of frustrating... esp. when you're a 1 MB and half from being done...!

[Griffindor73]

Its a really good update, however it still hasn't got rid of that annoying popping sound that I get when I import CD's into it. Always happens towards the end of the CD and I've yet to find a way to get rid of it. I know its not the CD as they import fine on my iBook G4, its on my iMac G5 that it happens! (Sob, wish I'd waited for an Intel one- oh, never thought I'd say that!):)

[Afro1989]

-iTunes will give you cover art for free if you are missing cover art (thanks Steve).


How do I update all my songs with the "free" cover art? Some of my albums aren't showing the album art. :confused:

[Cinematographer]

How do I update all my songs with the "free" cover art? Some of my albums aren't showing the album art. :confused:

Click on "Get Album Art" / "Get Album Cover" or something like that in the third menu from the right.

Or select some tracks and right-click on them, then "Get Album Art" / "Get Album Cover".

Of course, there will still be a lot of covers missing. iTunes doesn't find everything, even if the tracks are available in the iTMS. :confused:

[Multimedia]

It's been happening with every CD I've tried to import since upgrading. There are quite a few experiencing the same thing, as I checked the Apple iTunes discussion forum.

The last CD I imported took an hour and a half!You guys need to post what Mac and speed with how much ram when you post about speed problems. Readers have no frame of reference when you post importing is slow without telling us what Mac you are using. Thank you in advance for your consideration.

[sadarryl]

all well and good...

except...

some of the album art that iT7 has downloaded has absolutely no relationship to either the album, song or artist. and, much of my collection is apparently obscure enough that only about 20% shows an album cover.

[cygni]

Click on "Get Album Art" / "Get Album Cover" or something like that in the third menu from the right.

Or select some tracks and right-click on them, then "Get Album Art" / "Get Album Cover".

Of course, there will still be a lot of covers missing. iTunes doesn't find everything, even if the tracks are available in the iTMS. :confused:
Also, you can select all tracks in your library and then select "get album art" (under advanced category). Though, it takes a bit of time.

[jhu]

as a music player i'm not overly impressed. i'm using a blue and white powermac with a 350 mhz ppc750 chip. itunes uses nearly 40% of the cpu time. what the hell is itunes actually doing???

by comparison, playing music with xmms, the total cpu percentage used is about 10% (6.5% for xmms, 3.5% for esd).

[Multimedia]

as a music player i'm not overly impressed. i'm using a blue and white powermac with a 350 mhz ppc750 chip. itunes uses nearly 40% of the cpu time. what the hell is itunes actually doing???

by comparison, playing music with xmms, the total cpu percentage used is about 10% (6.5% for xmms, 3.5% for esd).I've never even heard of xmms and I can't find it with Google nor with the Wikipedia. Kind of rude of you not to provide a link to where an OS X version resides don't you think? Your model Mac is getting pretty long in the tooth don't you think jhu? :eek:

[jhu]

I've never even heard of xmms and I can't find it with Google nor with the Wikipedia. Kind of rude of you not to provide a link to where an OS X version resides don't you think? Your model Mac is getting pretty long in the tooth don't you think jhu? :eek:

you didn't search very hard as the first google listing points here (http://www.xmms.org/). it runs on unix-like oses so there isn't a specific os x version. as for my computer, it works just fine so why buy something that i don't need?

[Multimedia]

you didn't search very hard as the first google listing points to the X Multimedia System (http://www.xmms.org/) site. it runs on unix-like oses so there isn't a specific os x version. as for my computer, it works just fine so why buy something that i don't need?No, I found that site right away. But I can't find the OS X version to download. Can you porivde a link the correct download page & version please?

[jhu]

No, I found that site right away. But I can't find the OS X version to download. Can you porivde a link the correct download page & version please?

the easiest way is to download and install either fink (http://fink.sourceforge.net/) or darwinports (http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/) and then install xmms via their respective package management system.

[zeppiecr]

Disney Sold 125,000 Films on Itunes in less than a week
Bob Iger said that the 125,000 films sold were 1,000,000 in revenue and he expects 50m in revenue in the 1st year of agreement.

This was announced at meeting today with Goldman Sachs.

[johnmcboston]

Two possible related issues...

On both my mini and 5G I keep getting a "cannot update ipod, file is in use" dialog box. But the software window says the ipods are up to date, so I'm not sure what's going on.

speaking of the new ipod settings window - back in the old days there was some setting "I want to mount my ipod as a disk as well" so you can drag not files, database, etc -use part of the ipod as a portable HD. Does this happen automatically now? I don't see any setting to turn this on or off....

thanks gang

- J

[MacinDoc]

Two possible related issues...

On both my mini and 5G I keep getting a "cannot update ipod, file is in use" dialog box. But the software window says the ipods are up to date, so I'm not sure what's going on.

speaking of the new ipod settings window - back in the old days there was some setting "I want to mount my ipod as a disk as well" so you can drag not files, database, etc -use part of the ipod as a portable HD. Does this happen automatically now? I don't see any setting to turn this on or off....

thanks gang

- J
When your iPod is mounted, if you click on in in iTunes, you will get a summary page for your iPod. That's where you'll find the checkbox to enable disk use.

[johnmcboston]

When your iPod is mounted, if you click on in in iTunes, you will get a summary page for your iPod.

D'oh!

Trouble is on the mini it is not un-selectable... (on th G5 it is)

did find the 'cannot update' problem on the apple forums as well, so I'm not the only one. :)

- J

[chasemac]

Is there a guide to uninstalling iTunes 7 and going back to iTunes 6? I don't like 7. It does not run as well as 6 on my Dual 2 G5. I like the browse button and the cool spin when you burn a disc on 6 and it is more "just music" for me. Less clutter and looks better to me. I don't need the album art. I would rather buy DVDs than download these movies. I tried one and it was okay but not what I need it for.

[johnmcboston]

Is there a guide to uninstalling iTunes 7 and going back to iTunes 6?

Just know you cannot buy anything if you have less than ITS 7

[chasemac]

Just know you cannot buy anything if you have less than ITS 7

Really? We'll, I would rather have 6 to review my music recordings. I can always buy from my other Mac. Anyone know how to roll-back to 6? Thanks:)

[VanNess]

Really? We'll, I would rather have 6 to review my music recordings. I can always buy from my other Mac. Anyone know how to roll-back to 6? Thanks:)

You'll need 7 to purchase (and view) the video related stuff, but you can still spend your entire bank account buying songs from iTunes. That works just fine in iT6.

According to this thread (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=637816&tstart=0) over at the Apple discussion boards, here is the proper way to revert to iT6:

• Trash iTunes 7
• Delete the 'iTunesX.pkg' file from ./Library/Receipts
• Run the iTunes6 installer. It should install without any problem. Older versions (iTunes 6.0.5 not yet) are available here.
• Trash the 'iTunes Library' file in ./Users/Username/Music/iTunes
• Create a copy of the 'iTunes Library 2006-09-12' (or a date near this one) in ./Users/Username/Music/iTunes/Previous iTunes Libraries and rename it to 'iTunes Library'
• Put this file at ./Users/Username/Music/iTunes.
• Run iTunes 6. It should recognize the library without any problem. Any changes you made during the time you used iTunes 7 are lost of course.

[jmedina1969]

Installed it on my PC:

The iTunes application could not be opened. An unkown error occurred (0x666D743f)

Huzzah!

Try this

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304318

[chasemac]

You'll need 7 to purchase (and view) the video related stuff, but you can still spend your entire bank account buying songs from iTunes. That works just fine in iT6.

According to this thread (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=637816&tstart=0) over at the Apple discussion boards, here is the proper way to revert to iT6:



58083Thanks. I know that but can someone tell me how to go back to iTunes 6?:)

[VanNess]

revert = "go back"

[chasemac]

revert = "go back"

Yes they do revert.:)

[chillywilly]

On both my mini and 5G I keep getting a "cannot update ipod, file is in use" dialog box. But the software window says the ipods are up to date, so I'm not sure what's going on.
I had this problem on mine and ended up having to do a restore before it would recognize that the iPod needed to be updated.

Make sure you sync first. If you use your iPod in manaul mode (not set to auto sync), then you'll need to put all of your songs back on it after the restore.

[Willis]

Just a quick mention really. The UK iTS has been updated. Those who noticed; when Apple updated the store, they took off a few things too (by accident I guess) These are the Pixar Short Films, and Music Video Tabs on the left hand side. Well, they're back.:)

[johnmcboston]

I had this problem on mine and ended up having to do a restore before it would recognize that the iPod needed to be updated.


Well, accepted the hassle of restoring the ipod. The first file I resynched gave me the same 'file in use' error. sigh

[spicyapple]

iTunes 7 fixed the shared playlist/monitor sleep bug from previous versions?

It would seem so. And for that, I'm really excited. :) When sharing playlists from a network, the server computer no longer turns on the monitor if it was sleeping previously.

[retrospek]

I see that iTunes 7.0.1 is out... To provide bug fixes... In software update now..

[FadeToBlack]

I started using the artwork view today and I love it. Not Cover Flow, but the other one. The one with the track titles by the cover art. It looks great. I'm a big fan of the iTunes 7 interface.

[jimmer116]

Anyone else had problems with the 7.0.1? After I installed mine and closed out itunes, there was some file corruption somewhere. It tried loading my library and then told me it couldn't open it. Then once it finallly did load, over half of my songs didn't display, so about 11,000 songs.

I eventually fixed it...by reloading all 20k songs. All my settings were gone though...playlists, etc.

Just wondering if anyone else has had the same problem.

[Bedawyn]

I think the solution to your video issue is to set iTunes to play videos in the main screen and not on a separate window, this will allow you to switch between album art window and a bigger window with the video still playing in all cases BUT the trade off is when your playing your playlist the video will not come on in a separate window but rather remain in the album art window you have to click it to go bigger. The video however will play in the album art area regardless.
Nope, doesn't help. I never use the separate window preference anyway; I want them playing full screen unless I specifically tell it to shrink. But what happens if I use the technique given above is that (a) I'd miss being able to see all the music vids, since I'm likely to be several feet away from my computer when they come on in the small screen, and (b) when I click on a small screen vid, it enlarges to separate-screen mode (not full screen), and the separate screen statics to white as soon as I do anything else on the desktop.

Thanks for the suggestion, though. I'm going to break a separate thread out for dealing with video problems later.

[twoodcc]

i must say i'm not all that impressed with itunes 7. i like it and all, but i'm not sure if i like it that much better than itunes 6