iTunes 7 is here!

[minimalistic]

-Source list now includes library with sep libraries for all forms of media.
-Store now has own section, devices have their own sections, playlists too.
-iTunes will give you cover art for free if you are missing cover art (thanks Steve).
-3 different views of iTunes, list view, album view (with art and tracks), then "cover flow view" lets you rapidly find what you want by album cover.
-Pod updater appears to be now integrated into iTunes
-TV shows are now encoded at 640x480 (h264), up from 320x240
- You can now sync between multiple computers using an iPod, as long as both are authorized on the same account.

[cooknwitha]

How long does it usually take for new releases to be available? So it's been announced it will be available "today". So.... what's the average? Hours? Minutes?

Yes, I'm an impatient child. :D

[cooknwitha]

Well, that didn't take long. It's now up!! Woohoo!!

[runplaysleeprun]

new itunes icon. funky. didnt it used to be this color back at like version 1.0?

[MacNut]

Im waiting for it in software update.

[840quadra]

Installed :cool:

I kinda like the layout, and the fact that it shows when I am playing the clean or Explicit version of a song!!

[aswitcher]

Love the new podcast download page :)

[runplaysleeprun]

Its going through and analyzing all my music for gapless playback information. iTMS is still down. I do like the new look on the left of the window, its a lot cleaner.

[spicyapple]

The roll-out must be staggered because it's not showing up in Software Update for me.

[cooknwitha]

Ooooo!!

I love this!! Love the new layout. Nice and tidy! Breaking up the library is good too!

I love software updates! It's like a present from Apple. :D

[pdpfilms]

new itunes icon. funky. didnt it used to be this color back at like version 1.0?
I noted the same thing upon install.

[840quadra]

I love the ipod disk gauge on the bottom of the ipod window!

if you click on it , it toggles through 3 separate information readouts (2 shown).

[pip11]

iTunes 2 had the blue note--v1 had three notes of varying colors. iTunes icon timeline:

http://www.techmanifesto.com/archives/2005/09/08/the-itunes-icon-timeline/

[timerollson]

Here's my screenshot.

It's gorgeous.
http://static.flickr.com/97/241709994_facf94d69f.jpg

[drlunanerd]

Gapless playback.

w00t OMG LOL etc.

:D

[espressoman]

Installed it on my PC:

The iTunes application could not be opened. An unkown error occurred (0x666D743f)

Huzzah!

[runplaysleeprun]

iTunes 2 had the blue note--v1 had three notes of varying colors. iTunes icon timeline:

http://www.techmanifesto.com/archives/2005/09/08/the-itunes-icon-timeline/
yeah, its a little ligher shade of blue than 2.0 . But its close.

[ee99ee]

wow.... iTunes is analizing 10,000 of my songs.... this is going to take a while

-chris

[cooknwitha]

The two new viewing options are great! It's looks fantastic and makes me glad I've been keeping my cover-art up-to-date!

Right well, enough farting about.... back to work.

[bagleyb]

Installed it on my PC:

The iTunes application could not be opened. An unkown error occurred (0x666D743f)

Huzzah!

Same error here, reboot fixed it. Funny, it told me I had to reboot on my laptop, but not on my desktop. Anxious to see it on the iMac when I get home.

[MacNut]

I don't like the dark grey sliders.

[ee99ee]

I don't like the dark grey sliders.

me either.... things really should be standardized

-chris

[luckylisp]

Just downloaded it and it's finished going through my files. Love the new look and the category distribution, much nicer I think.

[ghall]

I bet this is a preview of what Leopard is gonna look like.

I wonder if we'll see a new iPod updater, and FrontRow update soon.

[MacNut]

Time to give it the ultimate seemless playback test, Pink Floyd "Dark Side Of The Moon":)

[ee99ee]

Is there a keyboard shortcut to go to the search part of iTunes? I have to click it with my mouse, and I try to minimize mouse usage... if I could find a key combo for it, that'd be great...

-Chris

[aswitcher]

Connecting iPod awesome new screens

[ee99ee]

Time to give it the ultimate seemless playback test, Pink Floyd "Dark Side Of The Moon":)

Make sure you're smokin' a doobie while you're at it... haha :P

-Chris

[DavidLeblond]

Going through all the Free TV Show episodes I haven't yet seen and redownloading them in 640x480.

I love every bit of this new iTunes... well except for the annoying fact that all the store views now scroll horizontally.

[dornoforpyros]

I don't like the dark grey sliders.


I DO! I hope the get rid of all the jelly bean sliders in leopard and replace them with these, much less intrusive.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Kind of cool... the icon is back to iTunes 2... :)

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Also, anybody else got this? :D

Love the new look, but I'm not sure about the library/store/devices/playlist area... the new one takes a lot more room than the old one... :(

[MacNut]

Seemless playback is great, but my soundtracks are not listing right, they display every song separate.

[hakala01]

:confused: Here's a possibly dumb question, but per Apple's support site, the following video play back specs are given for iPod (5G) playback:

iPod can play the following video formats:

H.264
File formats: .m4v, .mp4, and .mov
Video: Up to 768 kbits/sec, 320 x 240, 30 frames per second (fps), Baseline Profile up to Level 1.3.
Audio: AAC-LC up to 160 kbits/sec, 48 Khz, and stereo audio.
MPEG-4
File formats: .m4v, .mp4, and .mov
Video: Up to 2.5 Mbits/sec, 480 x 480, 30 fps, Simple Profile.
Audio: AAC-LC up to 160 kbits/sec, 48 Khz, stereo audio.

How will the new, higher resolution video play back on the current iPods? Do they currently have higher resolution capability that Apple was just holding back through software?:confused:

[Ja Di ksw]

Did Apple buy out whatever company made Cover Flow? If not, that's fairly shady of them. They didn't even bother to change the name.

[JSchwage]

I don't like the dark grey sliders.
Same with me. Why did they have to get rid of the Aqua style interface? I loved the glassy look before. But besides that, I love iTunes 7! :D

[DavidLeblond]

Did Apple buy out whatever company made Cover Flow? If not, that's fairly shady of them. They didn't even bother to change the name.

From Coverflow's website:

"We are pleased to announce that all CoverFlow technology and intellectual property was recently sold to Apple. It has been incorporated into the latest version of iTunes."

[Ja Di ksw]

From Coverflow's website:

"We are pleased to announce that all CoverFlow technology and intellectual property was recently sold to Apple. It has been incorporated into the latest version of iTunes."

Nice, thank you :). I liked Coverflow's application, glad they incorporated it. To be honest, though, I thought it looked better as the previous app . . . .

[octoberdeath]

I have Final Cut Pro and it comes with quicktime pro... my system is telling me all my software is up to date yet iTunes says i need to download the new quicktime. if i download the new quicktime and it isn't pro will it automatically give me pro features?

[Zman5225]

I can't get it to download any artwork, other than that, I really like it.

[Carlson-online]

Yes!!!

Burning --> Include CD Text!!

[hiyel]

I just installed it on my PC, restarted, and it said:
"Quicktime 7.00d0 is installed, iTunes needs at least QT 7.1.3" where infact the setup file is supposed to install QT 7.1.3.
Uninstalled, reinstalled and restarted several times but no luck...

[chillywilly]

Gapless playback.

w00t OMG LOL etc.

:D
Oh yeah.

First thing I did after I did the upgrade was go to The Cars first album and started playing "Bye Bye Love" and let it play.... gapless playback, just like how it should be.

I didn't see an option for this in Preferences. I'm assuming it's automatic.

[ripfrankwhite]

I get iTunes error when I try to open iTunes 7 after installation. Don't know what to do.

[840quadra]

:confused: Here's a possibly dumb question, but per Apple's support site, the following video play back specs are given for iPod (5G) playback:

iPod can play the following video formats:

H.264
File formats: .m4v, .mp4, and .mov
Video: Up to 768 kbits/sec, 320 x 240, 30 frames per second (fps), Baseline Profile up to Level 1.3.
Audio: AAC-LC up to 160 kbits/sec, 48 Khz, and stereo audio.
MPEG-4
File formats: .m4v, .mp4, and .mov
Video: Up to 2.5 Mbits/sec, 480 x 480, 30 fps, Simple Profile.
Audio: AAC-LC up to 160 kbits/sec, 48 Khz, stereo audio.

How will the new, higher resolution video play back on the current iPods? Do they currently have higher resolution capability that Apple was just holding back through software?:confused:

Great question!

I am wondering the same thing, along with the question of wether or not the current 5G ipod will get the software updates (besides the obvious update to allow it to play these new games) that include some of the features the new 5.5G ipod gets.

I would assume that the loading construct for playing H.264 videos on the ipod, will automatically scale down the video to fit the ipod screen. This may also mean less artifacts while watching videos on the ipod screen, as the encode quality will be higher off the bat !

[jonat8]

It seems very slow to me. The new iTunes spends at least 2 minutes "Loading iTunes Library" before the main screen appears. iTunes 6 never did that and it didn't take as long to load :(

My library is around 25,000 songs.

[chillywilly]

I get iTunes error when I try to open iTunes 7 after installation. Don't know what to do.
Are you on Windows? If so, then do an uninstall, reboot and then reinstall.

Also, try uninstalling QuickTime if there are problems still.

[Tommyg117]

Woah, so to get the album artwork it sends my list of songs to apple? what if I have an advance copy of an album from my friends band that I don't want apple to have? What about all those people who download albums, are they gonna get in trouble??

[StokeLee]

I think its fantastic, I like how it looks, I love the cover flow, and the ability to get the covers, and it gets the whole album, not just the one song. The movies/videos Ive got in my library now play flawlessly.

I love it, now all i need is a new iPod, If the iPod photo as it was called. I presume I cant play games on that one?

Edit. Just connected my iPod to my iMac, I love the new screen that itunes comes up with showing your iPod.

[chillywilly]

Woah, so to get the album artwork it sends my list of songs to apple? what if I have an advance copy of an album from my friends band that I don't want apple to have? What about all those people who download albums, are they gonna get in trouble??
There's a disclaimer when your first open iTunes 7 that basically says the information sent to Apple will not be used for any other purpose other than to get album art.

You can turn off the option under Preferences.

I also like how they've integrated the iPod updates into iTunes without having to do the updates seperately.

Just wondering where the new 1.2 update is. I'm anxious to get it loaded on my 5G and get PacMan downloaded.

[balamw]

iTunes now provides access to an "Album Artist" tag which should help keep those duets and other collaborations in line without having to declare them as compilations.

B

[ClarkeB]

Seems a bit...Windows-y with all the tabs. Other than that, I quite like it. Very futuristic (I feel like I'm running like...[sorry for this comparison but it's the easieset one for me to make based on my computer history] Windows XP on some "high end" computer from 1996 while I have the iTunes 7 on my 12" PowerBook G4)

[benthewraith]

The iTunes Store is SLLLLOOOOOWWWWW!!!!

Dreadfully slow. It took all of a minute to open Safari, go to Macrumors, go to the iPod/iTunes discussion section, come to this thread, and get all the way up to the word "slow" in order for it to come up. :(

[iminimac]

you can classify movies as tv shows and music videos now
apple-I will bring up information and then go video and you can choose what you want the file is

[chillywilly]

you can classify movies as tv shows and music videos now
apple-I will bring up information and then go video and you can choose what you want the file is
I noticed this as well. Very nice to see it working without having to use Lostify (which never worked for me under iTunes 6).

[ClarkeB]

Why can't I use the alternate views when I'm just playing the music off of my iPod? I never ever use the library because my iPod is always plugged in (and usually I just drag stuff from Finder into my iPod, cutting out the middleman of the Library). What a disappointment!

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

I didn't see an option for this in Preferences. I'm assuming it's automatic.Mark album and get info... ;)

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[chillywilly]

Why can't I use the alternate views when I'm just playing the music off of my iPod? I never ever use the library because my iPod is always plugged in (and usually I just drag stuff from Finder into my iPod, cutting out the middleman of the Library). What a disappointment!
It's still there. Just click the little triangle next to the connected iPod and you can see all of your songs, videos and everything (which is now broken up into categories.

Mark album and get info... ;)
re: gapless settings

Thanks! I'm still going through all of the screens and options... a lot of cool new changes.

I just found NIN "THE FRAGILE" album and tried that out and it's gapless, but if I select the album and look at the gapless setting, it's set to NO. But when it plays back, it works like it should.

I'll have to play with the options on some of these albums to see how the setting affects the songs.

[mangoarts]

Movies purchased from the iTunes Store can't be burned to a DVD or VCD that will play in a DVD player or Video CD.

[Balli]

Are Apple kidding? 640x480 resolution? For movies? What happened to widescreen? The last time I looked the year was 2006. :( :mad: :confused:

[MacNut]

Movies purchased from the iTunes Store can't be burned to a DVD or VCD that will play in a DVD player or Video CD.Ya and Im sure you wont get the nice DVD extras either.

[Malcster]

Ok, mines crashing everytime on the gapless playback scan.. Grrr

[indirstr8s]

Well the coverflow was available long time back at www.steelskies.com/coverflow

Looks like the guy sold the app to the apple and made lots of money.

[Fukui]

I bet this is a preview of what Leopard is gonna look like.

Nooooouuuuu!!!

I'll stick Leopard DVD in a shredder if thats what it ends up looking like. Apple just managed to bring the windows UI (looks like sony connect) into OS X. Thanks a lot. :(

[VanNess]

I bet this is a preview of what Leopard is gonna look like.

Oh for the love of God I hope not.

Generally the layout is fine, but this thing (iTunes 7) looks absolutely FUGLY!

The scroll bars are a major salute to the XP era of Windows. By OS X standards, it's a quantum leap backwards, not forwards. And the control buttons just look cheap. Again, thats fine for XP - that's what XP users are accustomed to - but it's embarrassingly sub-par for OS X.

I can appreciate the interest in providing standardization across platforms, but these UI element changes, even though they don't impact usage, are completely unnecessary for OS X. This looks like a knock-off port of the Windows version of iTunes and not a native OS X application. The very thing Apple complained to Microsoft about regarding Office around version 6. You could write this sort of thing off if it was a third party app, but Jesus, this is Apple.

Major :mad:

[HermanTheGerman]

Well, the title says it all. I had to reinstall the app. I got the error "not enough memory" everytime I started iTunes.

So refrain from doing the same mistake and keep waiting for an upgrade of UNO.

So long...

[ssamani]

I've downloaded the dmg and the installer has a customize option. In it there is a greyed out option to install "iTunes Phone Driver"... is that just the Motorola Rokr driver?

[sixth]

i cant even get to the store....damn thing wont even connect, must be getting SLAMMED!

[indirstr8s]

Loaded the itunes7, My remote speakers show up, but is not selectable...


:(

[donlphi]

Pretty disappointing, although I was the ONLY PERSON on macrumors and apple insider to call the LAME GAME update, which doesn't even work on the current 5G iPOD Video (at least this is what I read somewhere earlier today). I would call that pointless.

Movies... eh... I will still be buying DVDs and pulling them on.

Do current video iPODs support the new movies and TV Show formats?

It was nice of them to show us that they are planning on having an iTV unit.

ugh... I gotta go teach... we'll talk later.

[spicyapple]

Coverflow has got to be the most visually appealing iTunes upgrade, but the least useful. Multiple libraries and automatic cover art are the two biggest features for me. Next, better Sound control... Does this version of iTunes have gapless playback?

[Ugg]

It looks incredible, although the dark grey sliders are sort of hard to see. Very sleek and much less junky than 6. All the features are great if somewhat overdue. I like having movies, music and podcasts all separate.

[conradzoo]

Love the new look, though the icons suck.

Also wondering why iTunes doesn't recognize my audiobooks.

[redeye be]

I've downloaded the dmg and the installer has a customize option. In it there is a greyed out option to install "iTunes Phone Driver"... is that just the Motorola Rokr driver?
I noticed this too, and came to check this thread for someone mentioning it.
Jeej!

[sixteen2]

Does anyone know what the greyed out 'itunes phone driver' is on the custom install option?

[CompUSAMacNerd]

It keeps crashing every time I start playing a song. So, I'm updating the quick time in software update, and I am hoping this works.

[Fukui]

Generally the layout is fine, but this thing (iTunes 7) looks absolutely FUGLY!

Yea, apple had platinum, then aqua, now, with this release the've invented "Delorean." :(

[baleensavage]

Has anyone seen anything about being able to redownload TV shows we already purchased with the higher resolution. I haven't seen anything, but if Apple doesn't offer this, I'll be pretty peeved off as I just bought these shows recently.

[Oryan]

I won't download movies until I can get them at the same quality as the HD trailers (at least 720p). And I despise DRM.

[djkatsuo]

am i crazy or did apple completely leave this out of itunes 7...my booklets are mixed up with the music and so are the music videos...also no more search bar???

[travvy49423]

Pros...

#1 Album Artwork. No more Google searches.
#2 Gapless playback. Now i can playback my 70 minute prog rock albums as they were intended

Cons...

#1 Movies 640 by 480? No widescreen or animorphic? forget that! I haven't bought a 4x3 movie since 1998
#2 Still can't burn it. I won't buy anything I can't burn an play in a DVD player. iTV could posibly change my mind. We'll see.

[neoelectronaut]

iTunes now provides access to an "Album Artist" tag which should help keep those duets and other collaborations in line without having to declare them as compilations.

B

Please explain further.

[swingerofbirch]

Does anyone know if you can view the entire library still and use that "strip bar" across the top where you filter by music, tv shows, etc.....I kind of liked that...MAYBE I'll get used to the new way...but is there a way to make it go back to the old way?


EDIT
This might be premature and I might change my mind, but I dont like the new iTunes at all. It looks like FCP. I'm using it on my PC right now. Maybe the Mac will look better? It's overwhelming looking to me right now.

[stuBCN75]

Anyone get the new 'Search' on their 5G ? I have updated iTunes and done the iPod update. Its probably not even a feature I will use much but it's a shame it's not included in the update.

Any luck with the games on a current 5G ? Would be quite nice to have PacMan

[Some_Big_Spoon]

auto album art fetch isn't working for me, even on manual try. Anyone else having that issue?

[milo]

Movies purchased from the iTunes Store can't be burned to a DVD or VCD that will play in a DVD player or Video CD.

No kidding. It's been like that for a year, old news.

Pretty disappointing, although I was the ONLY PERSON on macrumors and apple insider to call the LAME GAME update, which doesn't even work on the current 5G iPOD Video (at least this is what I read somewhere earlier today).

It does. The new iPod is just a size bump of the 5G, the new features are just software updates.

[guifa]

Pros...

#1 Album Artwork. No more Google searches.
#2 Gapless playback. Now i can playback my 70 minute prog rock albums as they were intended

Cons...

#1 Movies 640 by 480? No widescreen or animorphic? forget that! I haven't bought a 4x3 movie since 1998
#2 Still can't burn it. I won't buy anything I can't burn an play in a DVD player. iTV could posibly change my mind. We'll see.
If you'd read Apple's page, it notes that 640x480 could be different depending on the aspect ratio of the file. 640x is what I get from bittorrent normally, so it's not bad.

[dunc85]

Does anyone know if you can view the entire library still and use that "strip bar" across the top where you filter by music, tv shows, etc.....I kind of liked that...MAYBE I'll get used to the new way...but is there a way to make it go back to the old way?


Thr browser? Apple + b?

auto album art fetch isn't working for me, even on manual try. Anyone else having that issue?

I selected all my tracks then right clicked and selected 'Download Artwork' or whatever. It's going through them now.

EDIT: bah, the majority of my tracks are still without artwork - theres even a couple of duplicated covers in there.

[phatspider]

Apologies if others have pointed it out - but hen upgrading to iTunes 7, i hit customize on the install it talks about an itunes phone driver

[ZildjianKX]

Has anyone seen anything about being able to redownload TV shows we already purchased with the higher resolution. I haven't seen anything, but if Apple doesn't offer this, I'll be pretty peeved off as I just bought these shows recently.

I'd like to know this as well.

[mmmcheese]

:confused: Here's a possibly dumb question, but per Apple's support site, the following video play back specs are given for iPod (5G) playback:

iPod can play the following video formats:

H.264
File formats: .m4v, .mp4, and .mov
Video: Up to 768 kbits/sec, 320 x 240, 30 frames per second (fps), Baseline Profile up to Level 1.3.
Audio: AAC-LC up to 160 kbits/sec, 48 Khz, and stereo audio.
MPEG-4
File formats: .m4v, .mp4, and .mov
Video: Up to 2.5 Mbits/sec, 480 x 480, 30 fps, Simple Profile.
Audio: AAC-LC up to 160 kbits/sec, 48 Khz, stereo audio.

How will the new, higher resolution video play back on the current iPods? Do they currently have higher resolution capability that Apple was just holding back through software?:confused:

The MPEG4 standard (which includes h.264) is scalable, so lower resolution devices will only decode to the lower resolution and not spend the extra time/power to decode to full resolution. There's a lot of complex details, but that's the quick gist of it.

[sixth]

how do you update your artwork? i have a ton of music on my pod and i want the artwork, how the heck do get the artwork?

[jacg]

I don't know how to include a screenshot in here but can anyone explain what the item in the Preferences > Advanced > General is that says:

'Allow iTunes control from remote speakers'

Also, while looking for iTunes7 I read that v 6.0.5 could send audio to more than one set of remote speakers simultaneously. How do you do that?

[hellodon]

Is it just me, or does the new iTunes logo look horrible in the dock? It doesnt seem to match anything, and it just doesnt look as "clean" as the typical dock logos have been/should be. When i went to click iTunes for the first time and it changed from the nice/clean green logo to this blue cheesy looking 1995 icon, I was pretty surprised!

[mcarnes]

The new iPod is just a size bump of the 5G, the new features are just software updates.

So the 60% brighter display is just a software update? :rolleyes:

[tk421]

Cons...
#1 Movies 640 by 480? No widescreen or animorphic? forget that! I haven't bought a 4x3 movie since 1998

Are you sure they aren't anamorphic? I want to find this out.

Even an anamorphic DVD is still a 4:3 file. It just stretches it out. And Quicktime does support non-square pixels.

[840quadra]

Not sure yet,

But it looks like we may need to convert videos before we can place them onto our ipod from iTunes.

I just encoded a video using Quicktime Version 7.1.5 (available now via software update). Even after doing that, it appears that I have the option to encode it for iPod :confused: .

::EDIT::
This feature is to encode videos dragged into iTunes, for your ipod.

Meaning. If you are able to drag a movie into iTunes and play it, you can now encode it to play on your Video iPod within iTunes!!

[mark88]

Can you add movies to your library that are already on your HD?

I choose file > add to library and selected a bunch of AVI files and it just did nothing.

[kasei]

Did the Apple engineers forget to add a music video icon on the left side of iTunes 7? Everthing else is there except music video.

[840quadra]

Can you add movies to your library that are already on your HD?

I choose file > add to library and selected a bunch of AVI files and it just did nothing.

I was just able to do that. I grabbed an old Quicktime video from an apple keynote done in 1998.

I NOW understand what that dialog box is for that I posted earlier. You can now encode any video iTunes will accept, for your ipod, within iTunes.

You no longer need Quicktime Pro, iMovie, or 3rd party applications to do so!

Rock on!!!

[Fukui]

Is it just me, or does the new iTunes logo look horrible in the dock? It doesnt seem to match anything, and it just doesnt look as "clean" as the typical dock logos have been/should be. When i went to click iTunes for the first time and it changed from the nice/clean green logo to this blue cheesy looking 1995 icon, I was pretty surprised!
I think everyone should send massive feedback about how horrid everything in iTunes looks compared to before, even with the new features (which are great). Maybe they'll change it back, at least on OS X.

[shadowx]

iTunes 7 installed just fine... gapless detection taking forever for about 4800 songs...

CD-TEXT option... YEAH!!! I never updated to 6.0.5, so I'm not sure if it is new... but new for me - FINALLY!

[Tomaz]

The new iPod is just a size bump of the 5G, the new features are just software updates.

Gapless playback is a software update ????

[2nyRiggz]

So we are not able to use that new cover art view when streaming over your home network I guess...tried it and the option is grayed out....oh well.


Note: itunes looks great...I don't know what some people are ramping about.


Bless

[jholzner]

Also, while looking for iTunes7 I read that v 6.0.5 could send audio to more than one set of remote speakers simultaneously. How do you do that?

If you have two different Airport Expresses, both with speakers attached, you can stream music to both at the same time. This isn't a new feature in 7.0.

[SiliconAddict]

Again as I stated before... Apple is really starting to dabble in the 3D interface. The album art is a good example of this. Granted its a rip off of someone else's idea...No idea of the name of the app but I was playing around with it a few months back that did exactly this. *shrugs* Whatever. It makes me wonder if there is any serious GUI updates for 10.5 that we have yet to see.

[jholzner]

Again as I stated before... Apple is really starting to dabble in the 3D interface. The album art is a good example of this. Granted its a rip off of someone else's idea...No idea of the name of the app but I was playing around with it a few months back that did exactly this. *shrugs* Whatever.

It's not a rip off of anything. It IS that app. Apple bought it. It's in a post above somewhere. The company that originally developed it notes it on their website.

[Sky Blue]

Again as I stated before... Apple is really starting to dabble in the 3D interface. The album art is a good example of this. Granted its a rip off of someone else's idea...No idea of the name of the app but I was playing around with it a few months back that did exactly this. *shrugs* Whatever.


As has been stated a million times today already, Apple bought out CoverFlow, they didn't rip anybody off.

[LukeW]

The album artwork retriever feature doesnt work that well. Gets some albums, some I didnt even know iTunes offered, yet ignores some of their best sellers like American Idiot and Demon Days! :rolleyes:

[quigleybc]

Well, I love iTunes 7

Fantastic

the get album art is SICK

the album scroll view is SICK

the gapless playback is well you get the idea!

I love it!

Just put it on my PC at work, and it's awesome

I'm a little concerned about putting it on my Mac at home because of the massive 140 gig library that it will have to process...

Hopefully it goes well,

[BWhaler]

Wow.

Wow.

iTunes 7 fixes all of the idiotic interface inconsistencies and missing functionality.

Great additions to the interface. Good balance of usability and fun.

This is a fantastic update. One of the best application updates Apple has done in a long time.

Very clean overall.

Great job Apple. Simply great.

[dogsbody]

Is it just me, or is the 'Movies' tab missing the majority of the videos that were in my iTunes Library... :rolleyes:

Maybe they aren't technically "Movies" any more and that's why everyone is complaining about Apple forgetting to include a Music Videos section.

[FF_productions]

Very Cool!

iTunes is an App that my life depends, I love the UI change!

[mcstewart37]

Again as I stated before... Apple is really starting to dabble in the 3D interface. The album art is a good example of this. Granted its a rip off of someone else's idea...No idea of the name of the app but I was playing around with it a few months back that did exactly this. *shrugs* Whatever.

Do you mean CoverFlow? Yeah, its the same. And if by "rip off someone else's idea" you mean Apple bought CoverFlow and incorporated it into iTunes. This was already mentioned earlier in this thread, but here's a link: http://www.steelskies.com/coverflow/

BTW: The iTunes phone driver is for the Motorola ROKR E1, SLVR L7 and RAZR V3i.

[simontarr]

Grrrr my iTunes 7 keeps crashing :mad:

[FoxyKaye]

Took them long enough for gapless playback - I'm going to give it the Dark Side of the Moon and Moby Everything is Wrong Nonstop DJ Mix tests when I get home.

Anyone been playing with gapless so far? How do you like it?

Ugly, ugly duckling though - not the prettiest iTunes out there.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

So we are not able to use that new cover art view when streaming over your home network I guess...tried it and the option is grayed out....oh well.Sure you can...

[I'll post a screen shot whenever attachments are back on-line]

57250

Edit: There we are... :)

[Sky Blue]

One of the best application updates Apple has done in a long time.

Great job Apple. Simply great.


Agreed. iTunes 5 and 6 were a little 'meh' but I'm loving 7 so far.

[hyperpasta]

GRRRRRRRRRR! I want to upgrade my current videos to 640x480... HOW?

EDIT: Oh, and don't 640x480 videos not play on an iPod?? WTF?

[parrothead]

EDIT: never mind I went back and actually read the thread and found what I was looking for.

[retrospek]

Just noticed a Front Row update in Software Update (version 1.3)..

[c-Row]

iTunes now provides access to an "Album Artist" tag which should help keep those duets and other collaborations in line without having to declare them as compilations.

:eek: Yes! Yes! Oh Yes! Baby! :D That's one of the things I would have killed for! Apple just saved someone else's life. :D

[bagleyb]

GRRR, iTunes grabs 700 MB of RAM on my PC as soon as it's opened. It releases it when it's closed, but my machine becomes pretty much useless when iTunes is open.

[Sky Blue]

'Album Artist' tag!

yay, duets!

[Tomaz]

Is gapless playback possible with the "old" 5Gen ipod if the new software update is installed ???

[xli_ne]

looks badass to me

[MacNut]

Anyone been playing with gapless so far? How do you like it?It works great, "Dark Side" and "The Wall" play as intended.

[jacg]

If you have two different Airport Expresses, both with speakers attached, you can stream music to both at the same time. This isn't a new feature in 7.0.

You maybe didn't read my post properly. I said I spotted that 6.0.5 could do this but I still don't know how. Whenever I select a different set of speakers it swaps to the new set. Do you need to press a modifier key or something? (Can't test just now because one of my AEs is elsewhere).

The v7 interface chugs a bit on my 1.25 GHz PBG4. I think the interface has too many dark shades. What's with the black highlight in the sidebar?

[mooncaine]

GRRRRRRRRRR! I want to upgrade my current videos to 640x480... HOW?

The usual answer would be: start with a new source, and compress that to 640x480. If you start with a video that's already 320x240, you can't expect it to look better if you later try to re-encode it to a larger screen size. Can't get data from nowhere... can't get blood from a stone.

[Chundles]

Full screen playback of videos now has Quicktime-style translucent controls.

You can properly tag TV shows.

[sphereboy]

Here are my thoughts ( if anyone cares ):

The left column icons are really bad.
The type headers are too big.
The spacing is horrendous.

Missing Equalizer button.
Missing Visualizer button.

Coverflow was cool as it was a stand alone app. But to just squeeze the exisitng app into itunes is just plain lazy. Doesn't seem like much thought went into that one.

Ipod updates are cool.
The Search is back to how it was. No more tabs up on top? Not searching for videos?

What if i want to collapse the Store section on the Left Column? I can't. Stupid UI.

To be honest, i think all this Apple attention is hurting their creativity. The buttons look like the first version of iTunes for the PC.

Hopefully this is that bad version, and they will correct it. I will be sending these comments to Apple Feedback as well.

Peace.

Update: Oh and i forgot!... the Dock Icon. FUGLY!

[LukeW]

Get album artwork seems to be working better now!

[oootle]

Very dark and dingy interface, reminds me of some audio-editing ap. What happened to the nice white play buttons, and the bright blue scroll bars and music store.

iTunes is now much more accomplished as a sopisticated media ap, but the style really has suffured. Doesn't feel like an Apple product!

[robe]

I'm getting the same unknown '0x666D743F' error; rebooting and uninstalling/reinstalling itunes doesn't help.

Does anyone have any ideas?

[~Shard~]

The cover art view sounds interesting, but I’ll have to see it for myself. Other than that, not too much else of interest to me, mostly because I don’t live in the States and therefore don’t have access to TV shows on iTunes, let alone movies. :rolleyes: :cool:

Let’s hope Apple fixes some of that so that I can actually make good use out of that iTV thing when it is released next year… ;)

[LukeW]

I really hate that when you select something in the left hand menu, it is highlighted in black, just really doesnt work with the blue logos and the light blue background, it is just too dense and solid and really stands out!!

[emagdnim015]

my favorite new feature is the backward syncing:

http://www.apple.com/itunes/sync/transfer.html

[2nyRiggz]

Sure you can...

[I'll post a screen shot whenever attachments are back on-line]

Edit: There we are... :)

Are you streaming that over your network?.....cool...I'll have to try it out when I get out of class...:)


Bless

[baleensavage]

The usual answer would be: start with a new source, and compress that to 640x480. If you start with a video that's already 320x240, you can't expect it to look better if you later try to re-encode it to a larger screen size. Can't get data from nowhere... can't get blood from a stone.
I think the person was referring to content they already pruchased from iTunes store. In which case, as I posted before, I too am wondering this same question. Looks like I will have to send Apple an email.

[macphin]

Damn, album artwork doesn't work in my country. I'm from Latvia (in Europe, just in case) and iTunes is not available here. So, just for getting album artwork, you'll need an account in iTunes, I've tried to make one, but iTunes ignore my credit card, cause it's not registered in US (or other available countries) Really want to use this feature. Maybe someone know what can I do... Thanks in advance

[jholzner]

You maybe didn't read my post properly. I said I spotted that 6.0.5 could do this but I still don't know how. Whenever I select a different set of speakers it swaps to the new set. Do you need to press a modifier key or something? (Can't test just now because one of my AEs is elsewhere).

The v7 interface chugs a bit on my 1.25 GHz PBG4. I think the interface has too many dark shades. What's with the black highlight in the sidebar?

Oh, sorry, I must have read it wrong. I'm not at home right now either but I know I can do it on my setup at home. It's just always worked but I can't recall exaclty what the menu looks like right now. I think there is a "multiple speakers" option in the drop down box for selecting where to stream. If you select that it will bring up a box with check boxes next to each set of spearks available and if you select them all it plays to them all. I'll double check when I get home.

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

It works great, "Dark Side" and "The Wall" play as intended.He-he... I'm testing "The Wall", too... :)

Did the "Gapless Determination" detect your The Wall album or did you, like me, have to set the Gapless Album tag yourself...?

[ghall]

...or does iTunes 7 scale videos much better in full screen mode. It just seems a lot smoother to me. Maybe I'm just crazy.

[mooncaine]

It works great, "Dark Side" and "The Wall" play as intended.

Cool, I can finally enjoy my Pop Will Eat Itself CDs.

[OutThere]

Not sure if anyone noticed yet, but there are a ton of new visualizer effects i've never seen before, and the visualizer runs at native res when in fullscreen.

[soapsuds]

The usual answer would be: start with a new source, and compress that to 640x480. If you start with a video that's already 320x240, you can't expect it to look better if you later try to re-encode it to a larger screen size. Can't get data from nowhere... can't get blood from a stone.
I'm assuming hyperpasta meant getting the videos he/she already has purchased from the iTunes store upgraded to 640x480 without having to buy them a second time. While everyone would love a free upgrade, of course, but since bandwidth isn't free, some sort of one-time discounted fee for upgrading one's entire library to the higher resolution would be a reasonable solution. That would make early adopters not feel like they got screwed for supporting Apple, plus make people hope for a discounted upgrade to even higher resolution videos (at least movies) in the future.

[emagdnim015]

Not sure if anyone noticed yet, but there are a ton of new visualizer effects i've never seen before, and the visualizer runs at native res when in fullscreen.
i didn't see anyone else mention the new backwards syncing!
http://www.apple.com/itunes/sync/transfer.html

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Are you streaming that over your network?.....cool...I'll have to try it out when I get out of class...:) Wait a minute...

What do you mean by streaming over my network...? Are you speaking about shared libraries...? If so then: no, I'm not streaming... :o

I've had my AirPort Express hooked up to my stereo for so long that "streaming", for me means playing over remote speakers using AirTunes...

If I was wrong, and got your hopes up needlessly (I've not tried shared libraries, yet), I'm sincerely sorry... :o :o :o

Edit: I just tried accessing my girlfriend's library over our network, and you're quite right, the cover art browsing view does not work (actually no cover art is showing). Again sorry... :o

[Tymmz]

Where is the great three column view where you could easily brows by genres/albums/artist?

[2nyRiggz]

Wait a minute...
If I was wrong, and got your hopes up needlessly, I'm sincerely sorry... :o :o :o

Indeed:cool: .....oh well...my house mates lost the ablum art:)

Note: I'm in class messing around in itunes....boring class:)

Bless

[daneoni]

Looks really hot BUT where is EQ?, i live by this thing, now i can no longer find it. Whats up?

[MacNut]

He-he... I'm testing "The Wall", too... :)

Did the "Gapless Determination" detect your The Wall album or did you, like me, have to set the Gapless Album tag yourself...?It detected on its own.

Looks really hot BUT where is EQ?, i live by this thing, now i can no longer find it. Whats up?It's listed under "view"

[milo]

So the 60% brighter display is just a software update? :rolleyes:

OK, so there are no added features, just minor things like tweaked display and battery. All the new functionality is just new software and available to the other 5G ipods. Is that better? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Gapless playback is a software update ????

I believe so. I think someone has already posted that they tried it on their 5G and it worked.

[shadotron]

what happened to the EQ???
oh i found it... under view and no more key command. why does my visualizer suck now. it's all glitchy. i have 256MB video ram on a dual g5. it used to haul butt.

[daneoni]

It's listed under "view"

Thanks

[MatthewCobb]

Don't like that electric blue note icon at all - reminds me of the Manchester City strip from a couple of years back before we reverted to sky blue. But maybe it will look better on the super screen of my MB... WHEN IT ARRIVES! I ORDERED IT A MONTH AGO APPLE, AND IT STILL ISN'T HERE!

[daneoni]

Can someone please confirm: is the search function available for the new iPods only or available as a software update for older 5G iPods??

[mgworek]

i was hoping with the seperate media libraries that u could have more then one music library.

oh well, one day they will let laptop users have more then one library without having to login as a different user.

[brepublican]

Here's my screenshot.

It's gorgeous.
http://static.flickr.com/97/241709994_facf94d69f.jpg
Wow! Looks pretty sweet! How long did it take to go through your library and determine the songs for 'gapless' playback?

Havent installed just yet :)

[sgd88]

The logo is very different. Reading some of the discussion here on it lead me to write:

http://sam.davyson.com/weblog/?p=228

[autrefois]

am i crazy or did apple completely leave this out of itunes 7...my booklets are mixed up with the music and so are the music videos...also no more search bar???

Did the Apple engineers forget to add a music video icon on the left side of iTunes 7? Everthing else is there except music video.

This is exactly what I'm trying to figure out: how to find the music videos I've downloaded. Ones that came with an album purchase (as a bonus) are in "Movies". Ones I downloaded separately are just mixed in with "Music" and not distinguished except by the little TV icon.

I'm not sure how one would quickly find their music videos except for manually looking for each one and creating their own playlist with just music videos. Is there a better way?

[quigleybc]

Well, I love iTunes 7

Fantastic

the get album art is SICK

the album scroll view is SICK

the gapless playback is well you get the idea!

I love it!

Just put it on my PC at work, and it's awesome

I'm a little concerned about putting it on my Mac at home because of the massive 140 gig library that it will have to process...

Hopefully it goes well,

[hirenj]

Shared libraries don't do the coverflow thing I'm pretty sure. It sorta makes sense, as itunes would have to absolutely hammer the server when it's retrieving all the artwork for a particular shared library.

The artwork which gets sent over with songs are actually embedded within the mp3/aac/ale files, meaning that on connection with the shared library you'd have to essentially start streaming every single song in the library to retrieve all the artwork.

I was sort of hoping the apple engineers would have come up with a daap workaround for this. Oh well :(

[ddrueckhammer]

Strangely, the iTunes update was the best thing to come out of the announcements for me today.

Updated regular iPods- Meh
Updated iPod Nanos-Why didn't they just come out with a flash based Mini last year?
Updated Shuffle-New form factor..nothing really new though...
Selling Movies-BLAH...Too expensive and no rental option...who cares
iTV-Somewhat interesting but without cheaper movies/rentals I'm not sure I would use it. I don't know that I want to rip all of my DVDs to take advantage of it.
iTunes Update!!!-Woohoo! Many of the complaints of users are addressed and several slick new features! Probably the best iTunes update in two years IMO!!

[milo]

Full screen playback of videos now has Quicktime-style translucent controls.

You can properly tag TV shows.

But unfortunately, it looks like there's no way to edit video info for more than one file at a time. Bummer, since I have dozens of TV episodes I'd like to have tagged correctly. I guess maybe either a future update, or hopefully a Doug's script?

This is exactly what I'm trying to figure out: how to find the music videos I've downloaded. Ones that came with an album purchase (as a bonus) are in "Movies". Ones I downloaded separately are just mixed in with "Music" and not distinguished except by the little TV icon.

I'm not sure how one would quickly find their music videos except for manually looking for each one and creating their own playlist with just music videos. Is there a better way?

iTunes puts Music Videos in with music. You can change that, select your file, hit command I and select the video tab. If you want it to show up under Movies or TV, just change it in the menu that appears.

[tuartboy]

I can't play more than 1 song before it crashes. I went ahead and appzapped the friggin program and started with a totally fresh install and I'm having the same problem. It plays 1 song and then crashes.

Another thing I noticed is that it misreports song length by a few seconds. It's reporting them too short. It plays out until the end and then backs up a second or two, then crashes.

Anyone else?

iTunes 7
10.4.7
PB 12"

[afornander]

the new look is kinda "microsoft-ish" if ya know what i mean. not sayin its a bad thing. i hope the leapord takes as much of a gui upgrade as itunes;)

[age234]

The only thing I don't like is that the album art view options don't work for iPod music.

The EQ column option is cool, I don't know if it's new or not, but I just discovered it.

I can't figure out how to do the reverse iPod sync, has anyone done it yet?

[c-Row]

APPLE BRING BACK COLUMN VIEW PLEASE!!

Ummmm... just hit "APPLE" + "B"... :p Works in all except the cover flip view.

[age234]

Ummmm... just hit "APPLE" and "B" in the first view... :p Works in all except the cover flip view.
Or click the eye button on the lower right corner.

[Dollar Bin]

Shoot, they took away the ability to "Upload checked episodes" for podcasts. If I listen to half an episode and then plug my iPod in, it will sync that podcast off my pod, even if I wanted to listen to the second half later. I have to go back to the podcast directory and "Mark as Unplayed" the podcast to get it back.

:mad:

[hasselhoff]

I think I figured out what is bothering me so much with the UI (other than the flash-like scroll bars):

Every aspect of iTunes uses Apple's system font, EXCEPT for the iTunes Store - all of a sudden it's Arial, or Helvetica, or something...it really throws me off. All of the Mac OS (not just iTunes) uses Lucida Grande, except for the store.

Very strange, and un-apple looking.

[nsjoker]

I sooo regret installing itunes 7 now. And you can't even revert back to the old one. With the amount of music I have, it's freaking time consuming having to scroll down to find the artist I wanna listen to since the Artist's name is repeated for each album, so there's thousands and thousands of things to scroll through.

And now its impossible to choose to listen to, for example, only Clapton and Hendrix. Before I could just command+click each artist or even album and there, instant quick playlist. Now I have to create an actual playlist, and probably remember to delete it or else I'll end up with tons of lists.

All in all, this is visually nice upgrade but the usability is down the pan drastically. Its virtually unusable and VERY time consuming.

APPLE BRING BACK COLUMN VIEW PLEASE!!

... it's right there on the bottom right

[brucebilotti]

Question for everyone.
I was playing with itunes 7, and I realized that if i hit the yellow minimize button (with scale effect set) it minimizes into the dock like normal, but when i try to bring it back from the dock it does nothing for a second and then it just appears. I don't know if the way i wrote that makes sense, but give it a try and see if it works for you.

[CompUSAMacNerd]

I can't play more than 1 song before it crashes. I went ahead and appzapped the friggin program and started with a totally fresh install and I'm having the same problem. It plays 1 song and then crashes.

Another thing I noticed is that it misreports song length by a few seconds. It's reporting them too short. It plays out until the end and then backs up a second or two, then crashes.

Anyone else?

iTunes 7
10.4.7
PB 12"


Dude, I am having the same problem. This is getting me real frustrated. I repaired permissions, found all this crap wrong with iTunes, then restarted. Same thing! I don't know what to do, but this is not a good update for me.

[autrefois]

iTunes puts Music Videos in with music. You can change that, select your file, hit command I and select the video tab. If you want it to show up under Movies or TV, just change it in the menu that appears.

Thank you for the clarification, however when I do command-i and choose "Video", the pull-down menu is greyed out. I tried this with several videos, and it's the same: I am unable to change video type on my music videos downloaded from the iTunes Store (American Idiot, etc.). They were all downloaded well before today's updates, so I don't know if that's the problem or not (maybe ones bought afterwards will not cause this problem?)

Are other people experiencing the same problem?

[daneoni]

I can't play more than 1 song before it crashes. I went ahead and appzapped the friggin program and started with a totally fresh install and I'm having the same problem. It plays 1 song and then crashes.

Another thing I noticed is that it misreports song length by a few seconds. It's reporting them too short. It plays out until the end and then backs up a second or two, then crashes.

Anyone else?

iTunes 7
10.4.7
PB 12"

Repair your permissions before and after each install. Mine did some correction to iTunes framework.

[haleyvan]

a few things:
1. gapless playback has always been an option in itunes before this version.
2. i want the old library format back! is there a way to make it 3 little windows? (artist and albums on top and tracks on bottom?) so much scrolling involved now.

[Multimedia]

Am Encoding H.264 Baseline Profile 640x480 To Test Old 5G Compatability. Takes much longer. Will report success or failure when it's done in another 40 minutes - about 3:15pm Pacific.

iPod 1.2 update software made no mention of this newer H.264 maximum dimension feature. If it works it means a whole new paradigm for Video iPods. The 320x240 pixel restriction for H.264 to date made it a highly unattractive codec to use. Now it's a whole new ballgame if it works. HDTV May be encoded 640x360 max in H.264 for a much better encode. Crossing my fingers this will work. Please pray with me now. ;)

[baleensavage]

For those that have been asking... the browser and equalizer aren't gone, they're just both under the View menu now.

Whew, I was a little worried there for a second.

[epitaphic]

... it's right there on the bottom right

lol! I searched forever for it!

*walks away embarrassed as hell* :o

[epitaphic]

I guess the only prob now is that it breaks virtually every plugin out there. Volume Logic doesn't work and OSS3D breaks iTunes (can't play any music)

They must have done some significant under-the-hood changes to the code base. Probably when they added the anti Apple GUI design elements ;)

[MacNut]

Question for everyone.
I was playing with itunes 7, and I realized that if i hit the yellow minimize button (with scale effect set) it minimizes into the dock like normal, but when i try to bring it back from the dock it does nothing for a second and then it just appears. I don't know if the way i wrote that makes sense, but give it a try and see if it works for you.its a genie glitch, or thats how it seems.

[flinstone]

Have you all seen the incredible ugly ugly ugly graphics of the UI in itunes 7?!!??!?!?!???!!

Holy moly. looks like next gen Windows!!!

[shadowx]

Cool New iPod Sync interface!

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/12/164876/ipodinterfaceS.jpg

[joeboy_45101]

Is it just me or does anybody else think that the missing album artwork looks a little bad. It doesn't look like the same stuff you get when you buy a song from the music store. :confused:

[Gibson424]

not sure if anyone else has touched on this, but did anyone notice that music videos are gone?

[MacNut]

The graphics aren't that bad aside from the grey scroll bars. I do miss the equalizer button tho.

[Lixivial]

I find that it's not as intuitive about disabling the Mini-Store. Nice. :(

I'm also happy to see that they bought the CoverFlow technology rather than stealing the features. :)

iTunes 7 has everything I was hoping it'd have! Best release of iTunes yet, I think. And the new icon is to die for -- about as nice as the original. :)

[G-Funk]

was anyone able to get the search feature on their 5th gen ipods ? or where able to get the new games playable ? it didn't work for me.. nor was i able to get the search feature .. this is what i get when i connect my ipod

[MacNut]

Oh wow the iPod sync feature is great, I've wanted to be able to not have it load everything. This is maybe the best feature ever for iTunes.

[wnurse]

Movies purchased from the iTunes Store can't be burned to a DVD or VCD that will play in a DVD player or Video CD.

How is apple service different from Amazon?. Other than a pretty interface (last time i checked, pretty interfaces did not save me money or help pay the bills).. what's different?. Is the pricing different?.. are the restrictions different?.. why shouldn't I buy from amazon.. what happened to "when apple comes out with their service, they will kill amazon"??

Lame.

[mark88]

Is it just me, or does the new iTunes logo look horrible in the dock? It doesnt seem to match anything, and it just doesnt look as "clean" as the typical dock logos have been/should be. When i went to click iTunes for the first time and it changed from the nice/clean green logo to this blue cheesy looking 1995 icon, I was pretty surprised!

it doesn't look right to me. The icon seems HUGE, it seems like the used every single pixel available to them while other icons were allowed to breathe.

Check it..

[Clydefrog]

kind of weird how they changed the color of the itunes icon back to blue. But so far i like 7

[confirmed]

was anyone able to get the search feature on their 5th gen ipods ? or where able to get the new games playable ? it didn't work for me.. nor was i able to get the search feature .. this is what i get when i connect my ipod
the search function seems to only be for the new ipods.

games work, though.. you just have to go to Ipod Games in the source list (if it's not in the source list, you need to enable it in Preferences), double click a game, enter your Apple ID and password.. it'll authorize, and then be able to sync to the ipod.

[MacNut]

I don't get why everyone is complaining about the icon in the dock, all they changed was the color of the eighth note.:rolleyes: It wasn't that big a deal.

[hiyel]

So how do you work this Album Artist tag?

What I would expect is to put the artists (separated by comas or something) in that tag, and then that song will show up under all those listed artists.

The way it is now doesn't make any difference in organization/categorization of the archive.

How do you guys use it?

[padmasana]

I'm thrilled with the new gapless playback feature.
It's so nice to have all my Grateful Dead shows play seemlessly!
Kinda funny -- even before I had tried the new iTunes, I ordered the 8 gig Nano with the inscription:

the music
never stops

now it's truer than ever.

--------------
2.16 2gb 15" Macbook Pro; 4gb black Nano (now at the Apple hospital)
550 ti Powerbook

[MacNut]

So how do you work this Album Artist tag?

What I would expect is to put the artists (separated by comas or something) in that tag, and then that song will show up under all those listed artists.

The way it is now doesn't make any difference in organization/categorization of the archive.

How do you guys use it?It works for soundtracks or compilations, It is used to organize the albums better. Its very handy.

[ATG]

Nice to see coverflow in there although I do agree that it looked better before.

And is it just me or is it slower?

[Multimedia]

was anyone able to get the search feature on their 5th gen ipods ? or where able to get the new games playable ? it didn't work for me.. nor was i able to get the search feature .. this is what i get when i connect my ipodNope it's not there. Guess it's off to eBay for us. We'll Have to sell our 60GB models for $299 and pay Apple another $50 for the 80GB model with proper search capability. :(

[macfan881]

Has any one got The new Get album artwork to sync with the ipods i have syncked my ipod a couple times and nothings worked ? is this just itunes only :confused:

[mashinhead]

i like iTunes 7 but have 2 questions

First i bought some music off itunes which i notices is the Clean version of the album. i didn't mean to buy these its just the clean vs explicity signs are too subtle. Can i get these changed.

And second, What about the shows i already bought, can they be converted to the higher res. cos that would suck otherwise.

[tk421]

I don't get why everyone is complaining about the icon in the dock, all they changed was the color of the eighth note.:rolleyes: It wasn't that big a deal.

That's not true. Unlike the last couple revisions to the icon, the look as a whole also changed. The CD/DVD is different, the lighting is different, etc. I do prefer the old icon.

That said, I think this new version of iTunes is amazing! Who really cares if the icon is not my favorite? The features are fantastic! And I like the look of the actual interface a lot.

I get excited about updates like this because they are free! Computer updates are great, but I can only afford one every few years. iTunes I use everyday, and it's free.:D

[milo]

not sure if anyone else has touched on this, but did anyone notice that music videos are gone?

Nope, they're just included in the MUSIC category.

How is apple service different from Amazon?. Other than a pretty interface (last time i checked, pretty interfaces did not save me money or help pay the bills).. what's different?. Is the pricing different?.. are the restrictions different?.. why shouldn't I buy from amazon.. what happened to "when apple comes out with their service, they will kill amazon"??

Pricing is different, cheaper in some cases with a lower max price. And restrictions are much better in iTunes, 5 versus 2. Plus the amazon thing isn't mac compatible, it behaves like spyware, and requires a custom player to play the files.

[robertprotz]

Even though iTunes says that 5g ipods are up to date software version 1.2 is in there...

You must restore the ipod and it will restore using software update 1.2

note that this does NOT give search function, but it does provide compatability for games and the newly released 640x480 movies/videos

RobP

[daneoni]

New interface will take some getting used to, looks like they moved things around a bit.

[Groovey]

Looks like it's designed by anyone else than Apple people. I hope I'll get used to it. Maybe.

[phairphan]

Thank you for the clarification, however when I do command-i and choose "Video", the pull-down menu is greyed out. I tried this with several videos, and it's the same: I am unable to change video type on my music videos downloaded from the iTunes Store (American Idiot, etc.). They were all downloaded well before today's updates, so I don't know if that's the problem or not (maybe ones bought afterwards will not cause this problem?)

Are other people experiencing the same problem?

Yeah, the iTunes engineers appear to have had their heads shoved up their collective arses when they were working on the video feature. Since we can't change the video type for purchased music videos I have just created a smart playlist with Video Kind = Music Video and named it so it appears at the top of my playlist list. I hope the new version of Front Row doesn't suffer from the same jackassery.

[Stratification]

Even though iTunes says that 5g ipods are up to date software version 1.2 is in there...

You must restore the ipod and it will restore using software update 1.2

note that this does NOT give search function, but it does provide compatability for games and the newly released 640x480 movies/videos

RobP

No, just go to help and "Check for Updates". It'll walk you through from there, no need to restore.

[mooncaine]

Every iTunes update, I keep expecting to see this. Tags you can pile on, *in any order*.

Example: I have a song by Joe Blow, a song by Suzy Suck, and a song where they collaborated.

If I add an artist tag "Joe Blow, Suzy Suck", it's one tag. It's not Joe's tag, and Suzy's tag, and it's also not the same as "Suzy Suck, Joe Blow" ... though, to the user, it should be. A search for Suck and Blow should turn up any song that has both artists in the Artists tag[s].

Especially important for Genre tags. Many tunes could be classified as several genres, but if I put Joe's tune down as "Blues Rock", it isn't "Blues" and it isn't "Rock".

I would have suggested tags "like iPhoto's keywords", but I don't like iPhoto's implementation of them. I do like drag and drop tags, though. I guess iPhoto-style tagging would be more helpful than the current system.

[brepublican]

Question for everyone.
I was playing with itunes 7, and I realized that if i hit the yellow minimize button (with scale effect set) it minimizes into the dock like normal, but when i try to bring it back from the dock it does nothing for a second and then it just appears. I don't know if the way i wrote that makes sense, but give it a try and see if it works for you.
:confused: Do you mean the Genie effect? I havent updated yet, but I sure hope that that works just fine!

[Neuro]

Repair your permissions before and after each install. Mine did some correction to iTunes framework.

Agreed, good advice. Isn't a bit sad we have to do this on a 'cutting-edge' OS in 2006?!

Surely Mac OS X needs an installer that audits permissions on the fly?

[Multimedia]

Check Out The Way Video Art Flips By In The TV Shows Mode Of Your Library. Wow! This is so cool! :cool:

Click on the right end VIEW up top next to the search field. Oh this is amazing.

[FadeToBlack]

I actually really like the look of iTunes 7. The new view options are cool, but I'll probably just stick with the text-only "list" view.

[mostman]

Ok - check this out.

In list view - click on the column header for Album.

-Mike

[Texas04]

Nice to see coverflow in there although I do agree that it looked better before.

And is it just me or is it slower?
Yeah is yours slow when you are in the 3rd view tith all the albums on the top? The Music seems to be moving fine, but the top with the album art looks like it takes a bit to load. Is this what you are talking about?

[Peace]

If you're looking for your music videos they have been placed in a playlist called music videos and you need to download Front Row 1.3 to have them show up under Front Row.

[Groovey]

Yeah is yours slow when you are in the 3rd view tith all the albums on the top? The Music seems to be moving fine, but the top with the album art looks like it takes a bit to load. Is this what you are talking about?

At least on my iBook G4 it actually feels faster than 6. But still the looks feels like KDE1.0 or something to me. iTunes went back in time.

[brepublican]

Nice to see coverflow in there although I do agree that it looked better before.

And is it just me or is it slower?
Frankly, I'm shocked no one has complained about the actual changes to the 'iTunes Store'! Yet. I'm looking at it using iTunes 6 and its like: :eek:

They've like basically overhauled the entire browser in there! I'm not too sure how I feel about it...

[sphereboy]

For those that have been asking... the browser and equalizer aren't gone, they're just both under the View menu now.

Whew, I was a little worried there for a second.

What's the point of removing the Button on the lower right for the EQ and Visualizer? It's not like there is not enought space. Some times i wonder what they are smoking over there.

[Marky_Mark]

Well, I rushed home tonight to get me a look at all the news today. What a waste of bloody time.

No iTunes 7 in the UK (see screenshot).

iTMS has games, but STILL no TV shows or movies.

Unfortunately, you can't buy the games separately for the equivalent of 5 bucks each like you can in the US, you have to buy all nine as a bundle for 36 quid!

:mad:

And although I haven't installed iT7 (although I could download it from the States I suppose -- what would the US version of the software do to my UK iTMS purchased tracks, I wonder?) I ain't gonna because it looks like friggin' VISTA! What's that all about then?!

:mad:








And another thing -- unless I'm wrong -- they still haven't got crossfade on the iPod. I've been asking for that for at least eighteen months. Bollx.

[EEcuber17]

Why can't I make the left side bar smaller?

I'm having trouble making everything fit on my little iBook 12"

When I go to the music store it has scroll bars everywhere.

I dunno about this...

[Me1000]

I just installed it and had to update the firmware on my Nano because i had to format it for windows :( but ill have to reformat it back to mac in less than a week lol

I think its 200 X prettier and cooler than iTunes 6!

[LaMerVipere]

iTunes 7 is ugly.

And so is its icon.

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5268/animpukebz9.gif

[balamw]

Ok - check this out.

In list view - click on the column header for Album.

-Mike
Nifty. Album by Year and Album by Artist. Even though Album by Year, should be caller Album by Artist & Year. :p

B

[Neuro]

I think iTunes 7 looks great. The main improvement to me is the speed increase. I find scrolling up and down the library is so much faster. Hopefully this is a nod to new UI components in Leopard?

In terms of people finding it slower, isn't this just because it's working out all your gapless audio and downloading cover art after installing??

I also like the new scrollbars etc. I think if anything, they are more Unix or Sun/Java-like, certainly not Windows. I honestly think the candy-blue Aqua theme is disgusting. It served a purpose to be different, but now it needs to look sophisticated, which I think they have achieved.

The eye-candy of the cover-art view is brilliant. It really works as a UI. It genuinely makes me look at my library in a different way. I've already listened to loads of stuff that was gathering dust.

Well done Apple.

[phytonix]

what is
This package installs iTunes Phone Driver
when u do customized installation?

[mooncaine]

Holy moley, you mean it starts downloading cover art without asking or letting you turn that off? I don't want cover art, and I sure as heck don't want to use up bandwidth on my connection for cover art downloads, much less send out reports on what I care to keep in my playlists.

[dunc85]

Holy moley, you mean it starts downloading cover art without asking or letting you turn that off? I don't want cover art, and I sure as heck don't want to use up bandwidth on my connection for cover art downloads, much less send out reports on what I care to keep in my playlists.

No, you turn it on in Preferences.

[artifex]

Let me be the first to lament:

THEY BROKE iTUNES 5.x!

Well, you can still use it for playback and music management. But you can't use the shopping cart any more.

:( :( :(

[decksnap]

WTF have they done?? I think I'm going to overwrite the new control buttons with the old ones.

[Jackie.Cane]

I like CoverFlow and the free album art but...

Good god this thing is an ugly beast! From the side navigation panel to the scrollbars and buttons, to the Store itself - this has got to be the least asthetically appealing consumer app from Apple in a very long time. Windows XP style FTW!

[hiyel]

It works for soundtracks or compilations, It is used to organize the albums better. Its very handy.

For soundtracks and compilations I use "compilation" tag and they show up under "compilation" instead of their artists in the browser. "Album Artist" tag is supposed to be for albums that have songs that are 'performed' by multiple artists, not for albums that have songs from different artists. Compilations and Soundtracks fall into the latter.

I have this album called "Friday Night in San Francisco". It's a live concert by Al DiMeola, John McLaughlin, and Paco DeLucia. I used to have all the names in the artist tag, and it would show up as a separate artist "Al DiMeola, John McLaughlin, Paco DeLucia", which was annoying. Now, having this new tag, I thought it would solve this problem, and the album would show up under all the artists. That's the intuitive way I think. When you browse for an artist you want to see songs from that artist right? And the songs in this album are both form Al DiMeola, John McLaughlin, and Paco DeLucia. So they should appear under them all.

When I put the three names in the "Album Artist" tag, nothing has changed in the way browser works. If this tag is just a static storage for an extra string I call this Lame. I had so much expectations from it I guess.

[the dr]

Gah!! This gapless playback thing is annoying me. I upgraded as soon as the keynote finished and it's still analysing my library (37825 songs). What's it even for?!

[Fukui]

Frankly, I'm shocked no one has complained about the actual changes to the 'iTunes Store'! Yet. I'm looking at it using iTunes 6 and its like: :eek:

They've like basically overhauled the entire browser in there! I'm not too sure how I feel about it...
Yea, its all ugly-fied. Looks like sony connect. Bleh...

Hey, maybe thats what those "Hired Sony Engineers" were doing!

[Neuro]

Gah!! This gapless playback thing is annoying me. I upgraded as soon as the keynote finished and it's still analysing my library (37825 songs). What's it even for?!

Um, albums that don't have gaps in... Dj Mixes, live performances, soundtracks etc...

It's actually an incredibly nice feature that millions of people have been waiting for.

[*GG*]

If any of you have bought albums off iTunes with interact booklets I have discovered a problem - they don't work!!! - It plays it for a second as if it is a tune - it doesn't open it. arrgggh.

[daneoni]

erm is there a way to go back to iTunes 6 without a complete re-install. Using this thing is giving me a headache

[Lixivial]

Ack, when I have my iPod connected, my load times take FOREVER on my MacBook. It takes at least two minutes to simply bring up the UI.

I'm finding it interesting that the OS X version is lacking a feature that the PC version has. It's no doubt for troubleshooting, but weird. It's called "Run Diagnostics..." and presents the attached window.

I guess it's so Apple's iTMS support doesn't have to know Windows to get relevant information. :)

[hiyel]

Example: I have a song by Joe Blow, a song by Suzy Suck, and a song where they collaborated.

If I add an artist tag "Joe Blow, Suzy Suck", it's one tag. It's not Joe's tag, and Suzy's tag, and it's also not the same as "Suzy Suck, Joe Blow" ... though, to the user, it should be. A search for Suck and Blow should turn up any song that has both artists in the Artists tag[s].
That was exactly what I expected from this new "Album Artist" tag. but no luck.

Especially important for Genre tags. Many tunes could be classified as several genres, but if I put Joe's tune down as "Blues Rock", it isn't "Blues" and it isn't "Rock".
I use the "grouping" tag for this purpose. I use the "genre" tag for a general genre clasiification, and I just pile the sub genre's, moods and stuff in "grouping". Then I can call them by creating a smart playlist that looks in grouping tag.

[artifex]

If any of you have bought albums off iTunes with interact booklets I have discovered a problem - they don't work!!! - It plays it for a second as if it is a tune - it doesn't open it. arrgggh.

My U2 booklet has been broken since a week or so after I downloaded the set, which was the first week they had the set available after delivering my U2 iPod (b&w of course).

Apple won't fix it, either. Every time I ask them to, they can't understand what I'm talking about, and offer to let me redownload the whole music set "just this once." But the booklet isn't ever re-sent. :(

[Jovian9]

Did the Apple engineers forget to add a music video icon on the left side of iTunes 7? Everthing else is there except music video.

That's what I'm wondering. I have tons of music videos and now there is no listing of them for me to look through.

[chillywilly]

auto album art fetch isn't working for me, even on manual try. Anyone else having that issue?
I'm having the same problem here. It looks like it's going to work, but then does nothing.

And I know the song is there because I went to make sure it was there when it didn't work the first time.

[Groovey]

That's what I'm wondering. I have tons of music videos and now there is no listing of them for me to look through.
Mine's in the movies-section.

[Peace]

That's what I'm wondering. I have tons of music videos and now there is no listing of them for me to look through.

It's now a PLAYLIST

[Groovey]

It's now a PLAYLIST
True. The ones I meant are actually videos I've imported myself.

[balamw]

"Album Artist" tag is supposed to be for albums that have songs that are 'performed' by multiple artists, not for albums that have songs from different artists.
Yup, so for example you might have a track, "South Side" by Moby (featuring Gwen Stefani) and assign Album Artist as "Moby". It'll get files under Moby if you view the Album Artist tag, but it'll still find it if you search for Gwen Stefani.

Another example is that I have "The Best of Geroge Harrison", where half the tracks are by "The Beatles", I'd like the Album Artist to be "George Harrison", but have the individual tracks also tagges as Beatles tracks.

It is useful, but it's definitely not intended for "multiples" in the way you want it. (Me too).

B

[StokeLee]

Unfortunately, you can't buy the games separately for the equivalent of 5 bucks each like you can in the US, you have to buy all nine as a bundle for 36 quid!



Marky_Mark

If you click on the game you want, then you can download it, for £3.99

[displaced]

Well, I rushed home tonight to get me a look at all the news today. What a waste of bloody time.

No iTunes 7 in the UK (see screenshot).

iTMS has games, but STILL no TV shows or movies.

Unfortunately, you can't buy the games separately for the equivalent of 5 bucks each like you can in the US, you have to buy all nine as a bundle for 36 quid!

:mad:

And although I haven't installed iT7 (although I could download it from the States I suppose -- what would the US version of the software do to my UK iTMS purchased tracks, I wonder?) I ain't gonna because it looks like friggin' VISTA! What's that all about then?!

:mad:

And another thing -- unless I'm wrong -- they still haven't got crossfade on the iPod. I've been asking for that for at least eighteen months. Bollx.

www.apple.com/uk/itunes/ is showing iTunes 7 for me. Either your machine's loading a cached page, or your ISP is running caches which are still serving the old page.

Meh. iTunes looks different, sure. Given the choice, I'd say I preferred the previous appearance... but it's hardly the end of the world. Gapless playback is quite nice for some of my live recordings, and the Fetch Album Art seems to have worked as well as can be expected, considering some of my tracks aren't tagged as well as they should be.

CoverFlow's gorgeous :)

[Maxiseller]

AGREED. 100%. WTF have they done?? I think I'm going to overwrite the new control buttons with the old ones.

For gods sake, what a bunch of whiners.

It's a neat sleek user interface and I really like the changes. It looks less cluttered, and more importantly easier to use. Everything has nice clear spacing - and the move away from Aqua which has been with us forever is NOT a bad thing.

Aqua looks a little outdated now, and I like the fact that Apple are experimenting with new design ideas. I hope iTunes is the template that affects the rest of the OS.