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Sep 18, 2006, 03:35 PM

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As previously reported (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060901205754.shtml), Adobe's Vice Presdent offered a "quick look" at Photoshop CS3 running on an Intel Mac at the Photoshop World keynote last week.

Few details of the demo are available, and Appleinsider reports (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2057) that the upcoming Universal-Binary revision of Adobe's Photoshop (code-named "Red Pill") is expected in the spring of 2007. While no new features were revealed, it did show that Adobe had successfully ported Photoshop to the Intel Mac.

In February, Adobe stated (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/02/20060201190459.shtml) that the Intel-transition for Photoshop would be delayed until the next major revisions of their software.

nitynate

Sep 18, 2006, 03:35 PM

Yay!

This makes me happy.

Hurry up, Adobe!

Blue Velvet

Sep 18, 2006, 03:37 PM

...Adobe had sucessfully successfully ported Photoshop to the Intel Mac.

So good and so exciting that you had say it twice. ;)

skoker

Sep 18, 2006, 03:38 PM

Wee! No reason for me to hang onto my iBook anymore!

jellomizer

Sep 18, 2006, 03:40 PM

Wee! No reason for me to hang onto my iBook anymore!

From Apples Sales guys they say under rosetta Photoshop runs well. (Slower then native) but at the same speed if not faster then PPC (Espectially the G4)

nitynate

Sep 18, 2006, 03:44 PM

From Apples Sales guys they say under rosetta Photoshop runs well. (Slower then native) but at the same speed if not faster then PPC (Espectially the G4)
Apple sales guy.

It runs ok, but no faster than a G4.

bdkennedy1

Sep 18, 2006, 03:57 PM

I'm HOPING they used this opportunity to rewrite everything and making the apps lean instead of just porting over more than 15 years worth of code.

miketcool

Sep 18, 2006, 03:57 PM

Thank goodness! I am hooked on Adobe's LightroomBETA but their third incarnation was a major buzz kill. New features are cool, but it hogs all of my memory and after a few minutes my RAM is saturated and it doesn't dump. Hopefully the final version will fix this. As for now, I am starting to appreciate Aperture, so come on Apple!

bdkennedy1

Sep 18, 2006, 03:59 PM

From Apples Sales guys they say under rosetta Photoshop runs well. (Slower then native) but at the same speed if not faster then PPC (Espectially the G4)

Uhhhh... Intel Photoshop wouldn't run under Rosetta.

gugy

Sep 18, 2006, 03:59 PM

very cool!
My quad G5 days are counting now.
I can't wait for the octo-core!:eek:

zwida

Sep 18, 2006, 03:59 PM

I'm HOPING they used this opportunity to rewrite everything and making the apps lean instead of just porting over more than 15 years worth of code.

Exactly. I'd pay the full retail (vs. the upgrade) just to have a nice, lean set of Adobe apps.

Sdashiki

Sep 18, 2006, 04:00 PM

or perhaps keep the navigational shortcuts between:

photoshop
illustrator
indesign

the same.

I hate having command-scroll move the workspace horizontally in one app, but ZOOM in/out in another.

I mean, they made EACH of the programs, I hate having to remember, oh yeah im in AI now, cant use option to scroll....

dizastor

Sep 18, 2006, 04:01 PM

mmm intel native creative suite. delicious.

jbh001

Sep 18, 2006, 04:07 PM

A little dissappointed. Adobe's website indicates thay are takeing "pre-orders" for Acrobat 8 which are expected to ship mid November. That's 2 months away at this point. To me this means it is unlikely that we'll see CS3 in January 2007; more likely is: Adobe will start taking "pre-orders" March 31, 2007 with expected shipping after Memorial Day. Having set my sights that low, anything sooner will be a bonus.

polyesterlester

Sep 18, 2006, 04:14 PM

Yes! I just hope they hurry...

oldMac

Sep 18, 2006, 04:48 PM

Exactly. I'd pay the full retail (vs. the upgrade) just to have a nice, lean set of Adobe apps.

Does anyone else remember carrying around Photoshop on a floppy disk?!?

Crazy but true.

MacsRgr8

Sep 18, 2006, 04:48 PM

JackAxe

Sep 18, 2006, 04:52 PM

This coming year is going to be an expensive year in upgrades. :eek:

But it will be worth it for Maya and AfterEffects running under 8-cores. :)

<]=)

gugy

Sep 18, 2006, 04:52 PM

So, spring 2007 it still is then?
Nice race:
- Vista
- Leopard
- CS 3

That still is half a year away. Early Quad G5 owners who use Adobe's CS for a living probably have made the best investment ever! ;)

Great time to wait for the Octo Core Mac Pro! :D

2007 is going to be one hell of a year, if you ask me!! :cool:

I am with you man!
I am so happy I bought my Quad when it was launched. Now the Octo-core is the way to go. I just hope get some decend money on ebay when I sell it.:) :D

twoodcc

Sep 18, 2006, 05:12 PM

well this is good news. wonder what the new features will be

uncle_sam_ie

Sep 18, 2006, 05:15 PM

unfaded

Sep 18, 2006, 05:19 PM

This news kind of kills John C Dvorak's claim that Apple is going to dump OS X for Windows. Because, wasn't Adobe not bringing out a universal binary straight away one of his arguments for Apple dumping OS X.

I think the fact that the claim was made by John C Dvorak is what killed the claim.

I've met sandwiches with a better grasp on reality than Dvorak.

MacsRgr8

Sep 18, 2006, 05:21 PM

I think the fact that the claim was made by John C Dvorak is what killed the claim.

I've met sandwiches with a better grasp on reality than Dvorak.

:D

"the art of self-destruction"

mkrishnan

Sep 18, 2006, 05:27 PM

I think the fact that the claim was made by John C Dvorak is what killed the claim.

What, the fact that it's an utterly idiotic claim is not itself sufficient? :eek: :o

I guess if a five year old tells you mud tastes good, you have two good reasons to not eat mud. ;)

Di9it8

Sep 18, 2006, 05:35 PM

If Adobe can bring the best features and interface of Lightroom to photoshop, sort out the memory issues they should be onto a winner.
Sooner rather than later:D

thevessels

Sep 18, 2006, 05:43 PM

is the new adobe flash app gonna be in CS ?

thats whats keepin me on my G5 for a while ..

mac 2005

Sep 18, 2006, 05:49 PM

Wee! No reason for me to hang onto my iBook anymore!

I will continue to hold onto my iBook until it dies or I do. What will be great about a "universal" version of PhotoShop is the addition of the 24-inch iMac. :D

C'mon Adobe!

jamesmcd

Sep 18, 2006, 06:00 PM

Wow, talk about a year too late (Someone has to be the cynical one).

iJawn108

Sep 18, 2006, 06:30 PM

2007 is going to be one hell of a year, if you ask me!! :cool:
I certainly think so. :D 2007 will be my mega spending of bux on tech crap year.

KidHoliday

Sep 18, 2006, 06:38 PM

Adobe needs to pick up the pace, if I'm ever gonna upgrade machines.
No Photoshop = No Intel Mac.

At least I'll be putting my Applecare to the test. ;)

iJawn108

Sep 18, 2006, 06:41 PM

This news kind of kills John C Dvorak's claim that Apple is going to dump OS X for Windows. Because, wasn't Adobe not bringing out a universal binary straight away one of his arguments for Apple dumping OS X.
Uhhh Im pretty sure microsoft wouldn't like it if there was no OS X believe it or not.

stagi

Sep 18, 2006, 07:46 PM

I would be nice to have PS universal for my macbook pro, but since I don't use that too much for PS work it's not a huge deal to wait that long. And it saves me $$$ the longer they take, once it is universal it will be hard to resist a new mac pro to replace my G5, plus the upgrade of CS will be a pretty big bill.

wmmk

Sep 18, 2006, 07:57 PM

Mewant screenshots and details!:p

bigbossbmb

Sep 18, 2006, 08:16 PM

Uhhh Im pretty sure microsoft wouldn't like it if there was no OS X believe it or not.

That would mean they would have to rely on original ideas...:rolleyes:

Psychic Shopper

Sep 18, 2006, 08:28 PM

I know Steve Jobs didn't give the keynote, but does anyone have any news that came out of the Paris Expo? In a forum that is so anything Mac, this omission is quite puzzling, unless of course, it was no big deal

finchna

Sep 18, 2006, 09:26 PM

While it's nice to see a sneak of 3, it's obscene for Adobe to offer 2.3 NOT binary and charge as much for the update when it's just for Acrobat 8.

randyharris

Sep 18, 2006, 10:52 PM

I wonder how many people are out scouring the P2P sites looking for this right now. :)

Randy at MacSeven.com (http://www.MacSeven.com)

bousozoku

Sep 18, 2006, 11:14 PM

While it's nice to see a sneak of 3, it's obscene for Adobe to offer 2.3 NOT binary and charge as much for the update when it's just for Acrobat 8.

You mean that it's obscene that the whole suite is not a Universal Binary?

I think it's a good thing that they've updated CS2 twice to including Acrobat 7 and now, Acrobat 8, for the same price. It's very little you get from Adobe without really paying for it. From what I've seen, they're charging $159 to upgrade from version 7 to version 8.

It's odd to me that Acrobat is on a different update schedule than the rest of their products.

At least, they're able to show their UB suite, though it's probably just CS2 at this point. :p

p0intblank

Sep 18, 2006, 11:44 PM

Any CS3 news is good news to me! This application suite alone holds me back from getting an Intel Mac right now, besides not being able to afford it. :p

AidenShaw

Sep 19, 2006, 12:05 AM

That would mean they would have to rely on original ideas...:rolleyes:
Unlike Apple's iTV, which is a pretty shameless copy of the Windows Media Centre Extender.... (Although, of course, Apple doesn't have a Media Centre Edition to be extended - at least not until the Leopard media hub is released (not coincidentally, in the same Q1 that the iTV will come out :eek: ))

Not to mention the plans for Intel's Viiv platform.

How about these quotes from last March?

http://www.cnet.com.au/hometheatre/mediacentres/0,239035725,240061467,00.htm

This is where the genius of Viiv comes in. Shortly, Intel will release a range of "digital media adapters", which connect to your existing home theatre components (e.g. your TV, stereo system, etc) and can stream content wirelessly from any Viiv-certified PC. Bingo!

The existence of digital media adapters will totally remove the need to have a media centre PC taking up space in your living room, unless you're one of the few users that finds it practical to do anything other than passively soak up multimedia content whilst relaxing on the couch.

As a result, the PC in your home office will likely act as a digital media hub, distributing content wirelessly throughout your house to various media adapters.

Cupertino, start your photo-copiers!

dante@sisna.com

Sep 19, 2006, 12:22 AM

So, spring 2007 it still is then?
That still is half a year away. Early Quad G5 owners who use Adobe's CS for a living probably have made the best investment ever!

Yep, Got my Quad G5 last December and it has paid for itself 4 times over -- I had a year of extreme production -- no other box -- none-- not even my dual 2.7 G5 compared.

My Quad G5 made me more than enough cash already to justify the wait for OCTO.

Bring it. Excited.

mmcxiiad

Sep 19, 2006, 01:50 AM

two weeks ago i was at the photoshop world conference and one of the apple VPs was there. he talked briefly about the new creative suite. the contents of this report sound very simular from what i saw (which was very brief). I wrote quite a bit about it in a previous thread - you can read about it here. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=2806794#post2806794)

Macinposh

Sep 19, 2006, 04:06 AM

If Adobe can bring the best features and interface of Lightroom to photoshop.

I doubt that they will implement any features from lightroom,exept maybe gui.

I even think that they will remove the brige/raw converter from the photoshop, to force the customers to get the Lightroom separately.
Or the lightroom will replace the raw converter in Creative suite, for a bit extra cost.

Not that I think Lightroom is bad.
On the contrary.
In runs very fast on MacPro, compared to Bridge/Raw converter wich is unusable due to its laggyness and beachballing.

zero2dash

Sep 19, 2006, 09:35 AM

Someone get them the Retouch Artists Photoshop benchmark from Baked Beans and have them run that mofo. :D I wanna see some specs.

GregA2

Sep 19, 2006, 10:38 AM

Uhhh Im pretty sure microsoft wouldn't like it if there was no OS X believe it or not.

That would be freakin HILARIOUS to see Steve on stage explaining that they're dumping OSX because Windows is the future...

cfanyc

Sep 19, 2006, 10:46 AM

adobe, quark.

to discuss either of these two companies anymore makes my head hurt.

jaw04005

Sep 19, 2006, 02:45 PM

I simply do not understand why Adobe continues to update Acrobat in the middle of a Creative Suite cycle. I guess it's to generate buzz? You would think by holding it off until CS3, it would at least provide some consistancy for compatibility and support.

Blue Velvet

Sep 19, 2006, 02:54 PM

I simply do not understand why Adobe continues to update Acrobat in the middle of a Creative Suite cycle.

My guess is this:

• Partly historical, release plans may have been put into place some time ago which leads from...

• Driven by a different imperative. Namely, to further the universal business adoption of PDF to counter the potential threat of Microsoft's Metro, especially come Vista. Adobe have got the creatives tied up, it's the office-workers and IT buyers they need to keep on side, hence the flurry of Acrobat-related products (Standard, Elements etc.)

Food for thought, anyway.

xsedrinam

Sep 19, 2006, 03:00 PM

My guess is this:

• Partly historical, release plans may have been put into place some time ago which leads from...

• Driven by a different imperative. Namely, to further the universal business adoption of PDF to counter the potential threat of Microsoft's Metro, especially come Vista. Adobe have got the creatives tied up, it's the office-workers and IT buyers they need to keep on side, hence the flurry of Acrobat-related products (Standard, Elements etc.)

Food for thought, anyway.
I think the PDF rationale to accommodate offices and ITs is the most plausible of any answers I've read.

finchna

Sep 19, 2006, 05:42 PM

camomac

Sep 19, 2006, 05:55 PM

I think the fact that the claim was made by John C Dvorak is what killed the claim.

I've met sandwiches with a better grasp on reality than Dvorak.

Dvorak has been a long time critic of Apple Computer, even during his stint as a columnist for MacUser magazine. In 1984 he famously criticized their inclusion of a computer mouse with their computers, saying "There is no evidence that people want to use these things."

that is funny..

ksz

Sep 19, 2006, 07:41 PM

Wigletbill

Sep 19, 2006, 08:32 PM

I am surprised more people are not irritated with Adobe's blatant lazyness here. I mean... if Quark can release a U.B. (and we know what a mess of a company Quark is) why can't Adobe? I know there are more programs but, geez.....

J

Wigletbill

Sep 19, 2006, 08:34 PM

It's odd to me that Acrobat is on a different update schedule than the rest of their products.

Probably because it is the only app in the suite that has any competition.

bousozoku

Sep 19, 2006, 08:55 PM

Adobe has said that CS3 will arrive in the spring of 2007, but as far as I know they haven't said anything about Photoshop Elements. PE 5 was announced recently for Windows. I wonder if PE 5 for Mac will be announced sooner and independently of Creative Suite.

Edit: Fixed version info.

Considering that Photoshop Elements 4.0 for Mac was in question and arrived much later than the Windows version and that it depends on Photoshop for its code, it is extremely unlikely that version 5.0 will arrive more than a few months later than CS3.