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MacRumors
Sep 25, 2006, 10:48 AM
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Apple is hosting a Special Event (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/09/20060914090209.shtml) today at Photokina. The invite-only media event was first reported (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/08/20060821202913.shtml) in late August after members of the UK Press received invitations.

Details on the media event have been particularly scarce, but it is believed the event is currently taking place in Colonge, Germany.

There does not appear to be any live coverage for this event on the web. We will provide links or updates as they are received.



timnosenzo
Sep 25, 2006, 10:49 AM
Events are no fun without live coverage. :(

jmsait19
Sep 25, 2006, 10:52 AM
Events are no fun without live coverage. :(

agreed... i wanna know now!

larriveejp
Sep 25, 2006, 10:52 AM
Some sort of live-ish coverage here:

http://www.tuaw.com/2006/09/25/apples-photokina-event-has-started/

gauchogolfer
Sep 25, 2006, 10:52 AM
www.tuaw.com

Reports release of Aperture 1.5

Details to follow.

mi5moav
Sep 25, 2006, 10:52 AM
Strange...maybe it's just a rehash of Itunes 7 and the Ipods to the EU... though Aperture 1.5 should be on its' way soon. Though I'm actually hoping for a nice leica/zeiss announcement.

menziep
Sep 25, 2006, 10:52 AM
Semi Live updates here

http://www.tuaw.com/2006/09/25/apples-photokina-event-has-started/

Apature 1.5 is here!

e²Studios
Sep 25, 2006, 10:52 AM
well let's hope that we do see updates*:cool:

I'm sure you will see updates.. to aperture :)

Ed

mac-bitch
Sep 25, 2006, 10:54 AM
If you are capable of understanding German:

www.mactechnews.de is reporting "live";) :)

knackroller
Sep 25, 2006, 10:56 AM
how many of us actually care much about aperture...?

mac-bitch
Sep 25, 2006, 10:57 AM
to be more precise :

http://www.mactechnews.de/index.php?id=14542

menziep
Sep 25, 2006, 10:57 AM
If you are capable of understanding German:

www.mactechnews.de is reporting "live";) :)


Says there is iLife Intergration and Plug Ins

adamfilip
Sep 25, 2006, 10:57 AM
More then you think!

timnosenzo
Sep 25, 2006, 10:58 AM
how many of us actually care much about aperture...?
me, very much so! :D

According to TUAW:
Aperture 1.5 has a new library system with better support for external storage, DVD's, as well as RAID. This should make a lot of Aperture users happy.

Molnies
Sep 25, 2006, 10:58 AM
how many of us actually care much about aperture...?
Anybody that is a photographer?

At least I care alot, and this could mean a whole lot of improvement for my company.

Fotek2001
Sep 25, 2006, 10:59 AM
how many of us actually care much about aperture...?

The ones who use it... Like me!

If you're not interested, why bother to post.

iTucci
Sep 25, 2006, 10:59 AM
Japan store is still selling Aperture 1.1 ...

petemc
Sep 25, 2006, 10:59 AM
how many of us actually care much about aperture...?

Pro photographer using Aperture right here. I care :p

gauchogolfer
Sep 25, 2006, 10:59 AM
how many of us actually care much about aperture...?
A better question is how many people at Photokina care about Aperture, and that number must surely be quite high.

scott523
Sep 25, 2006, 11:00 AM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

There have been rumors of Aperture updates and possibly MacBook updates at this event.

It says "MacBook" updates at this event. I hope that wasn't a typo! :eek: :D

scott523
Sep 25, 2006, 11:01 AM
how many of us actually care much about aperture...?
Nope not me. :rolleyes:
I'm locking my eyes onto a possible new MacBook. :D

Unorthodox
Sep 25, 2006, 11:01 AM
The Apple Store isn't even down..... :(

tarjan
Sep 25, 2006, 11:01 AM
Google translator works great, much better than the babel...



Apple holds 2006 in Cologne on the today's day a press vent on the occasion of the Photokina. The hall fills slowly, which is stage Apple Ttpisch gestylt.

, Enter Vice President Apple Product marketing would push greetings Rob, now the stage and welcome the visitors of the Photokina. He speaks now about Aperture, the RAW feature and the integration in Mac OS X tiger.

Now the entire Mac Lineup was introduced to Mac pro including MacBook, MacBook pro, iMac and and the advantages of the Intel Umstiegs was described. Numerous photographers describe their experiences with Aperture and the Mac.

Aperture 1.5. As expected Apple presents also a new version of Aperture. Among the important new functions it ranks that pictures must be now no more in the file LIBRARY, but also on DVDs or other storage media to be can. Besides Voransichten are shown in high quality, even if these did not page themselves out on the computer to find and.

ILife integration further is now iLife and iWork integration given, so that these data bases can be accessed. In the reverse case can be used the Aperture LIBRARY for iDVDs.

Plug in an open API makes a providing possible of Plug in, so for example for photo order over Internet. Developers can load the extension with interest over the ADC entrance.

Further improvements to the further improvements count among other things a revised magnifying glass, stepless zoom are possible. Also an improved Tool for sharpening pictures is available.

gauchogolfer
Sep 25, 2006, 11:02 AM
Google translator is your friend:

German site in funny English (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mactechnews.de%2Findex.php%3Fid%3D14542&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools).

geerlingguy
Sep 25, 2006, 11:04 AM
how many of us actually care much about aperture...?

Tally me in the 'I care' crowd as well.

If the student price were $99, I could buy it in a heartbeat... but it's so close that I'm trying to find a way to get it.

mi5moav
Sep 25, 2006, 11:08 AM
So, I'm assuming 1.5 will not be available today but in October?? I wonder if the stolen RED VC has anything to do with macrumors RED announcement & Apple, though they thought it had to do with BONO and not with Oakley RED.

gallagb
Sep 25, 2006, 11:08 AM
If you are capable of understanding German:

www.mactechnews.de is reporting "live";) :)


i briefly read the page and it really didn't say much
although it did mention ilife integration, 1.5 aperture, new plug-ins...

nothing special

andrewkendall
Sep 25, 2006, 11:08 AM
how many of us actually care much about aperture...?

Personally I much prefer Lightroom. There's way too much wrong with RAW workflow in Aperture.

MacSA
Sep 25, 2006, 11:12 AM
Did they really need a media event for such a small update?

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 11:14 AM
Did they really need a media event for such a small update?

I didn't think it was over yet and even if it is why wouldn't they want to show off what they've done?

JAT
Sep 25, 2006, 11:14 AM
Personally I much prefer Lightroom. There's way too much wrong with RAW workflow in Aperture.
Ditto. Esp since Apple can't be bothered to support my camera. Just downloaded the latest LR beta.

islandman
Sep 25, 2006, 11:14 AM
I wish they'd update the laptops!

Erased Citizen
Sep 25, 2006, 11:15 AM
Did they really need a media event for such a small update?

suggesting possible pro hardware updates are still to come...

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 11:16 AM
Ditto. Esp since Apple can't be bothered to support my camera. Just downloaded the latest LR beta.

Which camera do you have?

kjr39
Sep 25, 2006, 11:16 AM
Unless there is something more, this is a big YYYYAAAAWWWWNNNNNN.

abrooks
Sep 25, 2006, 11:16 AM
Some coverage here: http://loop.worldofapple.com/archives/2006/09/25/apple-special-event-live-coverage/

mdntcallr
Sep 25, 2006, 11:16 AM
sounds like some good stuff, ilife integration. and other integration to make Aperture more Mac integrated than just as a stand alone application. Good stuff

But...
I wish they'd update the laptops!

hell Yeah!! new MBP please

Mr.Gadget
Sep 25, 2006, 11:16 AM
If the MBP's or other hardware is not updated at this event, then when is the next public event to have this happen?

JonasLondon
Sep 25, 2006, 11:17 AM
Aperture 1.5 news:

- images can be stored on DVDs or other media
- previews are shown in high quality even if they are stored on DVDs/"offline"
- Aperture Library can be used in media browser of iLife/iWork (iDVD for ex.)
- open API for example for the online ordering of images via internet (through non-Apple services)
- API available through ADC
- new loupe, magnification level no longer tied to specific settings/steps
- better sharpening tool
- meta data handling greatly simplified, presets allow meta data to be assigned to several images etc.
- new full screen comparison mode for several images at once
- loupe shows color information
- new editing functions
- color adjustments can be locked to specific color ranges, preset support
- (cool!) offline media can be "edited", meta data accessible too
....:)

belair
Sep 25, 2006, 11:17 AM
I guess apple is just trying to create a hype around a product that has not had the succes, they anticipated.

Adobe is pushing their agenda pretty hard, so apple has to show of what they got, even if that is not aperture 2.0.

Foggy
Sep 25, 2006, 11:18 AM
If the MBP's or other hardware is not updated at this event, then when is the next public event to have this happen?

Possibly the Intel developers conference. Think its next week....

displaced
Sep 25, 2006, 11:18 AM
The magnifying glass indicates Farbwerte

Woohoo! Finally, Aperture's magnifying glass includes added go-faster Farbwerte! I hope that's 64-bit Farbwerte, because this cat don't dig no other Farbwerte!

Farbwerte Farbwerte Farbwerte!

chabig
Sep 25, 2006, 11:18 AM
If the MBP's or other hardware is not updated at this event, then when is the next public event to have this happen?
Apple doesn't have to have a public event to update the machines. They'll just appear on the website someday.

Zadillo
Sep 25, 2006, 11:19 AM
If the MBP's or other hardware is not updated at this event, then when is the next public event to have this happen?

Note that you don't need a public event. Remember, the iMacs were upgraded with Core 2 Duo processors silently. And if I remember correctly, the last time the MBP was updated (with the processor speedbumps from 1.83 and 2.0 to 2.0 and 2.16), it was silent as well.

mi5moav
Sep 25, 2006, 11:20 AM
They are just trying to please the shareholders, without capsizing the boat. I highly doubt we will ever see such an inovative product such as the ipod from Apple again(hardware) It still shocks me that they came out with an MP3 player 5 years ago. One product. There have been a plethora of great products out since not including DAP/MP3 and Apple hasn't had there name on one. I needed a stinking Camera!!!!!!! Though it looks like the MacBooks not Pros are getting a little bump.

sunfast
Sep 25, 2006, 11:23 AM
Apple doesn't have to have a public event to update the machines. They'll just appear on the website someday.

Exactly. MacBooks appeared with no fanfare at all.

jaw04005
Sep 25, 2006, 11:23 AM
Tally me in the 'I care' crowd as well.

If the student price were $99, I could buy it in a heartbeat... but it's so close that I'm trying to find a way to get it.

If you have a student ADC membership, and still have your hardware discount asset—you can purchase it for $99 (EDU) at the ADC Store.

Am3822
Sep 25, 2006, 11:24 AM
Another event, yet another disappointment.

edit: regarding things from the narrow perspective of the MBP update, obviously.

kjr39
Sep 25, 2006, 11:25 AM
How can you give a positive/negative review if the event is ongoing?

manic
Sep 25, 2006, 11:26 AM
If the MBs not Pros get updated ill be head over heals!!! I do think its possible because the MBPs are due for a major overhaul, and it may take a while longer to get that sorted out. MBs only need the chip replacement

gauchogolfer
Sep 25, 2006, 11:26 AM
Another event, yet another disappointment.

What are you talking about, it isn't even over yet. All that was truly expected was an Aperture update, which has been delivered.

slffl
Sep 25, 2006, 11:27 AM
Wow, it looks like that's it. I guess we shouldn't expect much if Jobs isn't doing the presentation himself.

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 11:28 AM
Another event, yet another disappointment.

Personally all I wanted was iLife integration and from the looks of things I got that. Everything else is just a welcomed bonus.

manic
Sep 25, 2006, 11:29 AM
right now there is an "On-going demonstration about how metadata is stored even when some media is offline"

mazola
Sep 25, 2006, 11:30 AM
right now there is an "On-going demonstration about how metadata is stored even when some media is offline"

I stand corrected.

BenRoethig
Sep 25, 2006, 11:32 AM
I wouldn't expect any hardware. The store is still up.

Rhema
Sep 25, 2006, 11:32 AM
Hey guys, is there any place to get a demo of aperature?

I have a beta version of lightbox, and I was wanting to check out aperature.

geerlingguy
Sep 25, 2006, 11:33 AM
If you have a student ADC membership, and still have your hardware discount asset—you can purchase it for $99 (EDU) at the ADC Store.

Alas, I do not.

lizard79
Sep 25, 2006, 11:33 AM
I guess we shouldn't expect much if Jobs isn't doing the presentation himself.

TRUE.

but maybe new mbp tomorrow :)

mazola
Sep 25, 2006, 11:33 AM
It's about time for a refresh!

aafuss1
Sep 25, 2006, 11:34 AM
iLife integration-now that's a smart idea:attracts pro users to use iLife. And I like how you can work with the Aperture library through iLife now, and the new metadata options.

vantes
Sep 25, 2006, 11:35 AM
Personally I much prefer Lightroom. There's way too much wrong with RAW workflow in Aperture.


I would agree we've been using both tools here at work and Lightroom is winning us over here on OSX..of course..:o)....I'm dissapointed no MPB....
im' almost 90% going to get a core2 duo PC..sorry Apple you've delayed the MBP update wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to long...plus you need to put alot more higher end cards in the MBP if you want to win over Power CAD....and 3D users....why have an media event like this just to release Aperature 1.5....pointless...(shakes head):confused:

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 11:35 AM
Hey guys, is there any place to get a demo of aperature?

I have a beta version of lightbox, and I was wanting to check out aperature.

There is no demo of Aperture.

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 11:38 AM
Aperture and iPod the library can be transferred via iTunes 7 now also to iPod and regarded there.

Wanted this too.:)

jwa276
Sep 25, 2006, 11:38 AM
TRUE.

but maybe new mbp tomorrow :)

*sigh* that's what we've all been saying for the past MONTH..

I agree with the previous post of huge dissapointment. And from all the bad things I've heard about aperture and raw handling, I hope Lightroom blows it clean out of the water.

This sucks.

manic
Sep 25, 2006, 11:38 AM
wow. iPod integration. Now thats nice

Sharky II
Sep 25, 2006, 11:39 AM
Can't believe aperture doesn't support more RAW types yet.

Until it supports more/all of the raw types, it will never be a real 'pro' application imho

westonharvey
Sep 25, 2006, 11:40 AM
My friend keeps taunting me with his Core 2 Duo based HP notbook. Even "Xtreme Notebooks" has a Core 2 Duo model.

This sucks.

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 11:40 AM
Can't believe aperture doesn't support more RAW types yet.

Until it supports more/all of the raw types, it will never be a real 'pro' application imho

Aperture only uses the RAW formats that OS X uses. When 1.4.8 comes out it will support more.

mi5moav
Sep 25, 2006, 11:41 AM
All Apple software and hardware can be demoed for free at any Apple store. I have brought in cameras, printers, monitors, etc... and was allowed to test them and demo them before I purchased. It's an amazing place go visit sometime.

robbieduncan
Sep 25, 2006, 11:42 AM
Can't believe aperture doesn't support more RAW types yet.

Until it supports more/all of the raw types, it will never be a real 'pro' application imho

Which cameras in particular. It already supports all the serious Pro cameras if you ignore the very recently announced Canon and Nikon amature DSLRs.

rodpascoe
Sep 25, 2006, 11:42 AM
Can't believe aperture doesn't support more RAW types yet.

Until it supports more/all of the raw types, it will never be a real 'pro' application imho

I'm using it for my JPEG stuff but I do wish it would support the RAW files from my Fuji S3 :(

Zadillo
Sep 25, 2006, 11:44 AM
My friend keeps taunting me with his Core 2 Duo based HP notbook. Even "Xtreme Notebooks" has a Core 2 Duo model.

This sucks.

Your friend sounds like a dork. "OOOH, my HP has a Core 2 Duo! I AM SO l33t!"

Give me a break.

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 11:44 AM
Update price: For existing customers the update is free.

NICE :D :cool:

Sharky II
Sep 25, 2006, 11:45 AM
Which cameras in particular. It already supports all the serious Pro cameras if you ignore the very recently announced Canon and Nikon amature DSLRs.

My brother is a photographer, and has a medium format mumiya camera with digital back

It supports his SLRS, but not his mumiya

So, he can't really use aperture.

SWC
Sep 25, 2006, 11:45 AM
waaaaaaah Apple only anounced a photo editing program at a photography centered event. I am selling my macbook and G5 this is total BS!!!!!!

rodpascoe
Sep 25, 2006, 11:45 AM
Your friend sounds like a dork. "OOOH, my HP has a Core 2 Duo! I AM SO l33t!"

Give me a break.

Bet OSX zooms on it though! Oh, wait, hang on..... nope it can't run it can it?!

:cool: :rolleyes:

Glen Quagmire
Sep 25, 2006, 11:46 AM
Another event, yet another disappointment.


Yes, where's the MacBook Pro with integrated toaster?

Quite why people keep expecting announcements of upgraded laptops at a photography conference is beyond me.

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 11:47 AM
waaaaaaah Apple only anounced a photo editing program and a photography centered event. I am selling my macbook and G5 this is total BS!!!!!!

lol, you go girl! :p

timnosenzo
Sep 25, 2006, 11:48 AM
Update price: For existing customers the update is free.

NICE :D :cool:
Sweet. When is it available? Did I miss that? :confused:

iTucci
Sep 25, 2006, 11:48 AM
Yes, where's the MacBook Pro with integrated toaster?

Quite why people keep expecting announcements of upgraded laptops at a photography conference is beyond me.

The last PowerBook model was announced at Photo Plus Expo last November.

westonharvey
Sep 25, 2006, 11:50 AM
Yes, where's the MacBook Pro with integrated toaster?

Quite why people keep expecting announcements of upgraded laptops at a photography conference is beyond me.

The rumors were just so persistent this time... I think the "sources" that have been stringing us along on these Merom updates should be ignored from now on.

timnosenzo
Sep 25, 2006, 11:50 AM
Sweet. When is it available? Did I miss that? :confused:
scratch that--looks like its available this week.

robbieduncan
Sep 25, 2006, 11:50 AM
Sweet. When is it available? Did I miss that? :confused:

And I just picked up a copy of 1.0 on eBay for £72 :D

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 11:50 AM
Sweet. When is it available? Did I miss that? :confused:

I think this is it

Publication date: The update is to appear still in this week

But the translation confuses me a bit.

iSee
Sep 25, 2006, 11:51 AM
I'm not a photographer, so I don't understand the significance of this update, but I was surprised to see all of these integration improvements. Is integrating with Flickr or your iPod or keynote that useful to a pro? I'd have though these were things more of interest to an average Mac user trying to show off his vacation/baby photos.

Are you pros interested in these things? Or maybe Apple is trying to get the serious amateur interested in Aperture?

manic
Sep 25, 2006, 11:51 AM
this is the sorryiest bit of non-news ive seen in a while.

JAT
Sep 25, 2006, 11:51 AM
Which camera do you have?
Sigma. And they announce a new one tomorrow.

mdntcallr
Sep 25, 2006, 11:51 AM
I just saw that it is a free update to aperture owners.

AWESOME!! thanks apple!

Infinity
Sep 25, 2006, 11:52 AM
From http://loop.worldofapple.com/

"....Aperture 1.5 update available this week, free to existing customers
That’s it folks."

The event is over.
No MBP to be seen :(

rodpascoe
Sep 25, 2006, 11:52 AM
Which cameras in particular. It already supports all the serious Pro cameras if you ignore the very recently announced Canon and Nikon amature DSLRs.

Um, no it doesn't Fuji S1, S2, S3 RAW Files are not supported. This camera is used by more wedding photographers than any other.

menziep
Sep 25, 2006, 11:52 AM
The site has been updated!
http://www.apple.com/aperture/

minnesotamacman
Sep 25, 2006, 11:53 AM
When you see a picture of a lens, on an invitation, where would anyone
even begin to draw a conclusion that the updates for the MBP would be
forthcoming at this event. People want things so bad they set up their own
personal mirage at anything Apple says or does.

They will update. Apple knows what they are doing. And I suspect that they
won't be to upset when one or two people on here decide to go to a PC because
of a chip. I don't care if my computer was 1/2 the speed of a PC, I wouldn't
use Windows over OS X anytime.

Good luck to all you wishers and dreamers. One day you will get what you want.

robbieduncan
Sep 25, 2006, 11:54 AM
Um, no it doesn't Fuji S1, S2, S3 RAW Files are not supported. This camera is used by more wedding photographers than any other.

It's very strange that they are not supported if they are so popular. Perhaps they are not very popular in other countries?

Sharky II
Sep 25, 2006, 11:54 AM
Um, no it doesn't Fuji S1, S2, S3 RAW Files are not supported. This camera is used by more wedding photographers than any other.

indeed. and if medium format cameras with digital backs aren't considered 'pro' cameras (worth more than more peoples cars just for the camera and digi back) then i don't know what is

robbieduncan
Sep 25, 2006, 11:55 AM
The site has been updated!
http://www.apple.com/aperture/

Direct link to the "What's New" page (http://www.apple.com/aperture/newfeatures/index.html)

mdntcallr
Sep 25, 2006, 11:55 AM
apple just updated their page to aperture 1.5.

all the details there now

http://www.apple.com/aperture/overview/

Sharky II
Sep 25, 2006, 11:55 AM
It's very strange that they are not supported if they are so popular. Perhaps they are not very popular in other countries?

That's why aperture gets such bad press in pro photography circles man.

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 11:55 AM
The site has been updated!
http://www.apple.com/aperture/

Good eye! Thanks for the heads up.

gdew
Sep 25, 2006, 11:55 AM
http://www.apple.com/aperture/newfeatures/index.html

pashazade
Sep 25, 2006, 11:57 AM
And I just picked up a copy of 1.0 on eBay for £72 :D

I was going to bid for that but called away to a meeting!

gdew
Sep 25, 2006, 11:57 AM
http://www.apple.com/aperture/newfeatures/index.html

glennp
Sep 25, 2006, 11:57 AM
Um, no it doesn't Fuji S1, S2, S3 RAW Files are not supported. This camera is used by more wedding photographers than any other.

According to Apple, RAW is supported for the Fuji S2 Pro and Fuji S3 Pro. New in 1.5?
http://www.apple.com/aperture/raw/cameras.html

robbieduncan
Sep 25, 2006, 11:57 AM
Um, no it doesn't Fuji S1, S2, S3 RAW Files are not supported. This camera is used by more wedding photographers than any other.

S2 and S3 now supported. See the right sidebar on the raw page (http://www.apple.com/aperture/raw/index.html).

jwa276
Sep 25, 2006, 11:57 AM
Yes, where's the MacBook Pro with integrated toaster?

Quite why people keep expecting announcements of upgraded laptops at a photography conference is beyond me.

Why apple hasn't released a C2D macbook pro in time for the "back to school" buying season is beyond me. Every single one of these events is a possibility for an upgrade. Furthermore, those of us that want the latest and greatest for a $2,000+ investment are getting a little tired of being let down over and over again.

Get with the program Apple!! GOSH

menziep
Sep 25, 2006, 11:57 AM
Good eye! Thanks for the heads up.

Sure.

timnosenzo
Sep 25, 2006, 11:57 AM
Support for XMP files is huge, IMO! Very nice! :D

JAT
Sep 25, 2006, 11:58 AM
I'm not a photographer, so I don't understand the significance of this update, but I was surprised to see all of these integration improvements. Is integrating with Flickr or your iPod or keynote that useful to a pro? I'd have though these were things more of interest to an average Mac user trying to show off his vacation/baby photos.

Are you pros interested in these things? Or maybe Apple is trying to get the serious amateur interested in Aperture?
There are tons of serious amateurs using or interested in Aperture. Or Lightroom. This would be an excellent feature for me. (if I could use the program, see above)

The worst "feature" of Aperture is the high computer requirements. It really is a resource hog for not much reason. LR is becoming very similar with far less system specs.

GrannySmith_G5
Sep 25, 2006, 11:59 AM
Looks like they lowered the graphic card requirements, making it usable on my machines. Yay.

glennp
Sep 25, 2006, 12:00 PM
According to the sidebar, my 1.6GHz G5 with NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra now makes the cut to run Aperture. Didn't think either of those met the minimum requirements with 1.1.

Clive At Five
Sep 25, 2006, 12:00 PM
Why are some people here so outraged that there weren't any MBP updates? Remember: this is a photographer's event.

Not all of Apple's releases need to be a fanfare event. Remember a couple years ago when they said they were trying to get away from that? Yes. So we'll see new MBPs and maybe MBs soon enough. Maybe "next Tuesday" as you are all so fond of saying.

Until then, please have patience. I am tired of wading through the adolescent whining about MBs and Merom. Get some patience!

-Clive

JAT
Sep 25, 2006, 12:01 PM
Ooh, I take that back, then. Good move, this:

"Run Aperture on any Intel-based Mac."

mdntcallr
Sep 25, 2006, 12:01 PM
ok, so now it looks like the event is over.

no hardware announcements. which is bad. we really need a new macbook pro.

DaddyShortLegs
Sep 25, 2006, 12:02 PM
Um, no it doesn't Fuji S1, S2, S3 RAW Files are not supported. This camera is used by more wedding photographers than any other.

That's a pretty big call. I don't know how accurate that is. Anybody agree, or have any data to support that?

jwdsail
Sep 25, 2006, 12:02 PM
This is new (from the updated Aperture page)

"Supporting every member of the Mac family, Aperture 1.5 runs on every desktop — from Mac mini to iMac to Mac Pro — and every notebook — including both the MacBook and MacBook Pro. So you can run Aperture at home or in your studio. And you can take all your photos with you on location or to a client’s office. Aperture and the Mac make one unstoppable team."



jwd

ChrisA
Sep 25, 2006, 12:03 PM
The worst "feature" of Aperture is the high computer requirements. It really is a resource hog for not much reason. LR is becoming very similar with far less system specs.

One NEW feature of 1.5 quoted from Apple.com web site......

Run Aperture on any Intel-based Mac. Any desktop, including Mac mini, iMac, and Mac Pro. Or any notebook, including MacBook and MacBook Pro.

Mustafa
Sep 25, 2006, 12:03 PM
Looks like goodbye to iView Media Pro.

BenRoethig
Sep 25, 2006, 12:04 PM
Now if we could only get Photoshop and Photoshop elements competitors to go with it. The major advantage adobe has now is the complete package. Lightroom Beta4 is no slouch either.

05elstonc
Sep 25, 2006, 12:05 PM
It seems one of the best features is the upgrade price for existing customers. Free. This makes all of the upgrades even better, since they are free. Apple has really eliminated the possibility for pundits to bash the new version, since it is free for existing users. It is an amazing upgrade.

robbieduncan
Sep 25, 2006, 12:05 PM
S2 and S3 now supported. See the right sidebar on the raw page (http://www.apple.com/aperture/raw/index.html).

Annoyingly for me no EOS 400D support as of yet. So I still can't use my RAW files. I'm sure it's coming though :(

simply258
Sep 25, 2006, 12:06 PM
http://www.apple.com/aperture/raw/cameras.html

still not acceptable compared to RAW formats that Lightroom supports

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom/supported_file_formats.html

simply258
Sep 25, 2006, 12:08 PM
Now if we could only get Photoshop and Photoshop elements competitors to go with it. The major advantage adobe has now is the complete package. Lightroom Beta4 is no slouch either.
would be better if everyone would read the Aperture pages before commenting

http://www.apple.com/aperture/integration/index.html

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 12:10 PM
Is there shown any RAW cameras supported in 1.5 that weren't in the current version? I wasn't up on that since mine was supported and that's all that mattered to me, but if there are new camera's supported it would point to 10.4.8 to be released later this week too.

robbieduncan
Sep 25, 2006, 12:13 PM
Is there shown any RAW cameras supported in 1.5 that weren't in the current version? I wasn't up on that since mine was supported and that's all that mattered to me, but if there are new camera's supported it would point to 10.4.8 to be released later this week too.

See the previous posts. A number of Fuji cameras that were not supported now are.

simply258
Sep 25, 2006, 12:15 PM
Is there shown any RAW cameras supported in 1.5 that weren't in the current version? I wasn't up on that since mine was supported and that's all that mattered to me, but if there are new camera's supported it would point to 10.4.8 to be released later this week too.
the 'what's new' page says "Work with RAW images from more than 50 camera models, including the Fuji S2, Fuji S3 Pro, and Sony A100." but i don't know which ones exactly .. i know the Fujis are new because i have the S9000/9500 which is still not supported and it didn't support any Fujis before

drlunanerd
Sep 25, 2006, 12:16 PM
Looks like an excellent update. By the looks of things they've reduced the system requirements, which may mean it will be less of a resource hog.

The MacBook is now officially supported, along with older PowerPC models too.

Kudos to Apple for making it a free update, although there'd have justifiably been an outcry if it wasn't.

Edit: RAW support updates also point to OS X 10.4.8 being released this week too (as per previous poster's observation).

robbieduncan
Sep 25, 2006, 12:16 PM
the 'what's new' page says "Work with RAW images from more than 50 camera models, including the Fuji S2, Fuji S3 Pro, and Sony A100." but i don't know which ones exactly .. i know the Fujis are new because i have the S9000/9500 which is still not supported and it didn't support any Fujis before

Did you read the previous posts? The complete list of supported cameras (http://www.apple.com/aperture/raw/cameras.html) was posted on the previous page...

mazola
Sep 25, 2006, 12:18 PM
So when's the next Apple Event?

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 12:18 PM
See the previous posts. A number of Fuji cameras that were not supported now are.

Alright, I didn't read it that way the first time, but went back over them and see how I should have read it that way. :o

ImAlwaysRight
Sep 25, 2006, 12:21 PM
It says "MacBook" updates at this event. I hope that wasn't a typo! :eek: :D
It is not a typo, but look at the full statement: There have been rumors of Aperture updates and possibly MacBook updates at this event.
You have neglected two key words, "rumors" and "possibly." Those two words in combination like that shouldn't get your hopes up that much for a MacBook update. :(

simply258
Sep 25, 2006, 12:21 PM
Did you read the previous posts? The complete list of supported cameras (http://www.apple.com/aperture/raw/cameras.html) was posted on the previous page...
yes, by ME !

robbieduncan
Sep 25, 2006, 12:22 PM
yes, by ME !

Well then what was your question? That list is what you want: a list of all supported cameras. The 9500 is not supported.

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 12:23 PM
Was 2 Gb of RAM previously required for the Mac Pro? Seems odd you need more RAM on the beefier computer.:confused:

tvguru
Sep 25, 2006, 12:25 PM
Well then what was your question? That list is what you want: a list of all supported cameras. The 9500 is not supported.

I believe he was answering my question.

scott523
Sep 25, 2006, 12:28 PM
Omg with no laptop updates, I'd like to watch as Apple's laptop sales tumble. Already the Apple Store dropped their MacBook shipping days down to 3-5 days (nobody wants it). :mad:

FleurDuMal
Sep 25, 2006, 12:35 PM
Omg with no laptop updates, I'd like to watch as Apple's laptop sales tumble. Already the Apple Store dropped their MacBook shipping days down to 3-5 days (nobody wants it). :mad:

Or they're making more :rolleyes:


Can't wait to see Aperture running on a Macbook. Though I'll definitely go into the Regent St Apple Store to see it running before buying it just incase Apple is being a bit optimistic when it says it 'runs' on a Macbook. It barely run on the Mac Pro I was playing around with at the Store today.

Anyone know when the stores update their software? Is it done straight away?

CalfCanuck
Sep 25, 2006, 12:36 PM
Well, without looking at 1.5 itself I'm pretty pleased. Seems many of the things the serious users were asking for (esp on Apple's Aperture Discussion forum) are there.

I REALLY hope / expect that Apple improved the keyword DB code - since they now have the offline option, this all had to be rewritten. I'm expecting this to be the MAJOR improvement in Ap 1.5 in terms of usability and speed, and might be the reason that they dropped the supported specs to includer all Mac Intel boxes.

On a related note, I'm VERY happy to see improved keywording and searching, esp the "no" keyword search option. Though a minor thing (compared to offline support), this always drives me nuts in the current version:

Add, maintain, and update keywords more easily using improved keyword management options — even lock the Keyword HUD to prevent inadvertent changes...

Quickly find all images with “any” keyword assigned or with “no” keyword assigned when searching by IPTC info using the Query HUD...

Search for images by file status — i.e., “offline,” “online,” or “referenced” — using a new Query option...

Correct spelling, revise wording, or completely delete metadata/keyword entries using the new Autofill Editor.

Finally, iPod integration an interesting new feature that we won't fully appreciate for a while - I wonder why the iTunes store video downloads were upgraded in size recently but no current iPod can take advantage of this new format. I still speculate that we'll see a new larger format Video iPod that can do double duty for us photographers. I'd love to see the ability to Stack and apply exisiting keywording to RAW images int the field via an Ipod:

Sync to iPod: Take your photos with you by using iTunes to sync your entire Aperture library — or just selected albums or Smart Albums — to iPod.

kainjow
Sep 25, 2006, 12:41 PM
I wonder why the iTunes store video downloads were upgraded in size recently but no current iPod can take advantage of this new format. I still speculate that we'll see a new larger format Video iPod that can do double duty for us photographers.
All 5G iPods with upgraded firmware to 1.2 can play the iTS movies just fine.

Teddy's
Sep 25, 2006, 12:43 PM
Export API, XMP, EXIF, RAW formats .ARW, .CR2, .CRW, .NEF, .RAF, .SRW, .TIF, .OLY, .DNG, :confused: ... Can I just take the damn picture!!!
Quoting Ryan O'Neal in What's up doc: I am having a nightmare!!!

p0intblank
Sep 25, 2006, 12:43 PM
Why are there so many Negative votes? An update to Aperture is a very good thing for photographers. If all these voters are people who were hoping for a MacBook Pro update, that doesn't quality you voting an Aperture update thread as negative. Big deal... the notebooks didn't get updated. Move along.

I really wish Apple offered a trial of Aperture on their Web site. I would love to try it out sometime.

rtharper
Sep 25, 2006, 12:47 PM
Why are there so many Negative votes? An update to Aperture is a very good thing for photographers.

I would guess none of the negative voters were photographers =p

p0intblank
Sep 25, 2006, 12:52 PM
I've had enough of this voting system. Look for a thread on it in the Community Discussion.

Edit: Make that the Site and Forum Feedback forum...

p0intblank
Sep 25, 2006, 01:01 PM
The thread is now posted if you would like to discuss in it.

bousozoku
Sep 25, 2006, 01:13 PM
Omg with no laptop updates, I'd like to watch as Apple's laptop sales tumble. Already the Apple Store dropped their MacBook shipping days down to 3-5 days (nobody wants it). :mad:

Whatever. I'm sure they'll be hurt because you're running the world.

The updates are about 3 weeks away.

bartelby
Sep 25, 2006, 01:15 PM
Omg with no laptop updates, I'd like to watch as Apple's laptop sales tumble. Already the Apple Store dropped their MacBook shipping days down to 3-5 days (nobody wants it). :mad:

And your proof for that statment is?


The fact the shipping time has dropped couldn't be they've had more stock delivered could it?

CalfCanuck
Sep 25, 2006, 01:32 PM
All 5G iPods with upgraded firmware to 1.2 can play the iTS movies just fine.
?????????
I can display a 10,000 x 8.000 pixel picture on an iPod if I throw away 99% of the data as well. But why would you want to use such a huge file for no reason? Not only would it take up vast amounts of space, but you have to process all that "throwing away" info on the fly.

The new videos take longer for you to download, use more storage space on the iPod, require the iPod to downsample at playback, and cost Apple more bandwidth.

So why would Apple do all this if they weren't in fact planing to USE the new format on an iPod? Soem may say "it's for rregular Macs", but this size is too SMALL for to build a new standard for computers. So the only conclusion I can reach is that it has to be for a new iPod to come...

sparks9
Sep 25, 2006, 03:31 PM
So does that mean no new macbooks?

lockhartt
Sep 25, 2006, 03:35 PM
Omg with no laptop updates, I'd like to watch as Apple's laptop sales tumble. Already the Apple Store dropped their MacBook shipping days down to 3-5 days (nobody wants it). :mad:

Having visited my local Apple Store several times over the last two weeks (my PowerBook G4 was in for warranty repairs), I can safely say that I saw more MacBooks selling than any other computer... easily two MacBooks for every iMac that sold.

This is no surprise when you consider the price/performance ratio and the overall market shift toward mobile computing (not to mention back-to-school season).

If anything, I'd say it's a safe bet that Apple may be having trouble keeping up with demand.

jacg
Sep 25, 2006, 05:58 PM
?????????
I can display a 10,000 x 8.000 pixel picture on an iPod if I throw away 99% of the data as well. But why would you want to use such a huge file for no reason? Not only would it take up vast amounts of space, but you have to process all that "throwing away" info on the fly.

The new videos take longer for you to download, use more storage space on the iPod, require the iPod to downsample at playback, and cost Apple more bandwidth.

So why would Apple do all this if they weren't in fact planing to USE the new format on an iPod? Soem may say "it's for rregular Macs", but this size is too SMALL for to build a new standard for computers. So the only conclusion I can reach is that it has to be for a new iPod to come...

Front Row? iTV?