PS3 Hands ON! *PSM3*

[AlmightyG5]

First ever true hands-on video. they promise more to come...sweeeet.

PSM3 Site: http://www.psm3mag.com/page/psm3?entry=ps3_power_up_pics_and

YouTube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TUXcaEeoUo



Site is lagging from hit overload. Press X (stop) in safari to load page sometimes...

Some more details of the brute in action:
1) It's quiet like a sleeping baby. A barely audible hum. With the TV on you simply can't hear it at all.
2) It's heavy like a planet. No, really. It's impossible to pick up with one hand.
3) It's shiny like a mirror. In fact, it's impossible to take a photograph of it without the flash spanging every picture into a starburst mess. And therefore it's massively prone to fingerprintage too, with the tiny amount of dust in the office magically attaching itself to its surface in seconds.
4) The PS3 joypad is very light and the tilt system is very responsive. We like.
5) The start up is amazingly fast. And game load times were faster than expected. In fact, PS3 does both at about the same speed of PSP. ie, Long load times due to the massive Blu-ray disc? Nope. Simply not an issue.

[MacRumorUser]

interesting mr.bond

I watched the video but what confused me was

5) The start up is amazingly fast. And game load times were faster than expected. In fact, PS3 does both at about the same speed of PSP. ie, Long load times due to the massive Blu-ray disc? Nope. Simply not an issue.

Doesnt read quite right does it ? If its like the psp load times wise, then heaven help us all as they are fairly slow.

Oh well, wont be getting one for another 5 months anyway

[AlmightyG5]

Well, first we have to realize that their PS3 is a Pre-release Demo unit, and second The HD will be able to cache laoding times of games...so we will see very fast loads when the final system is released.

[Tommyg117]

It's cool, I won't be getting it at launch though

[twoodcc]

interesting. thanks for the link

[MacRumorUser]

It's cool, I won't be getting it at launch though

going on the amount of consoles available, the majority of potential ps3 gamers wont be getting one at launch either ;) :D

Well, first we have to realize that their PS3 is a Pre-release Demo unit, and second The HD will be able to cache laoding times of games...so we will see very fast loads when the final system is released.

With only 6 weeks left to launch I hope that PS3 is at least finished. I keep my fingers crossed for fast load times, xbox 360 has been alright in fairness, so if it matches or better's it - then I'll be very happy with it.

[Abulia]

Well, first we have to realize that their PS3 is a Pre-release Demo unit, and second The HD will be able to cache laoding times of games...so we will see very fast loads when the final system is released.
I think you should let the info above stand on its own rather than make excuses for the PS3. These things are/should be in production right now, so I think the argument "wait for the final system" is rather moot.

These pretty much are final systems at this point.

Nice to see some good news for the PS3.

[AlmightyG5]

Does the YouTube Video show up for you guys in the First Post?

[Mackilroy]

Does the YouTube Video show up for you guys in the First Post?

Yessiree.

[RoxStrongo]

assuming that the youtube video is the same as the initally posted one then i can't see how it gives any indication of the load times for games. i don't want to see people faffing with a blue screen. i want to see how long it takes from turning the thing on to getting to play the game. something which isn't shown i might add. all it shows is that there is at least one out of the factory.

[AlmightyG5]

assuming that the youtube video is the same as the initally posted one then i can't see how it gives any indication of the load times for games. i don't want to see people faffing with a blue screen. i want to see how long it takes from turning the thing on to getting to play the game. something which isn't shown i might add. all it shows is that there is at least one out of the factory.
Yes...the PS3 XMB is the exact same as the PSP, so say Motorstorm was in the drive when the PS3 was turned on...There would be no wait at the main menu where you would have to manually select the game...instead it automatically boots up. So the way they did it was intentional to show the Interface a little. I really hope they show some longer videos of the XMB in action and gameplay.

[bmb012]

Well, first we have to realize that their PS3 is a Pre-release Demo unit, and second The HD will be able to cache laoding times of games...so we will see very fast loads when the final system is released.

Um, and what makes you think that loading to the HDD is faster than loading to the RAM...?

[sikkinixx]

wow, after i just posted a day or so ago that i wanted to see an actual unit in action.. hmm ask and ye shall recieve I suppose :D

The fingerprints suck big time (the PSP unite does the same thing) but since it will be tucked away I really don't care all that much. If it is as quiet as the TC is making it out to be, it will already be better than my 360 in the movie department (damn thing is too loud for watching quiet moves :mad:) but as MRU has said before, if the interface is anything like the PS2's for navigating DVD's I will snap.

The startup is kinda rad, sounds kinda classy, makes it seem more like a 600$ ********** piece of hardware for big boys, not a little toy for kids. The chrome trim is still :p though

[Dagless]

Am I the only person a little "hmm"ing about that long black screen? Was that just to get to the loading screen or whatever? I couldn't see that well :)

[2nyRiggz]

Interesting but looks good for Sony. They should keep the good things coming until launch..bring the fire back into it.

Liking the start up times if thats the real.


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[rtdgoldfish]

Boot time seems about the same as the 360. I don't care how loud the system is. I've got my surround sound cranked up when I play video games so let the fans spin, as long as they keep the system cool.

Didn't Sony learn about shiney plastic with the PSP?? I guess not. Cosmetically, that was my biggest complaint with the PSP, trying to clean the damn thing. I know its a console but that just means that it will gather dust and look just as dirty.

I still find it amusing that Sony didn't bother creating a new system interface for the PS3. Its fine on a handheld system but I can see myself going through hundreds of icons to find the settings for a system with the PS3's (supposed) capibilities.

For example: I want to see a video of the audio and video settings. There should be a ton of these and I really don't see the menu system working well for this.

All of this said, I'm still not wasting $600 on another Sony system.

[Counterfit]

Um, and what makes you think that loading to the HDD is faster than loading to the RAM...?
Well, it wouldn't provide any benefit on the launch of a game, but the optical drive could continuously spin and load things into a cache on the HDD which is faster reading than an optical drive (Blu-Ray and HD-DVD included).

[AlmightyG5]

Well, it wouldn't provide any benefit on the launch of a game, but the optical drive could continuously spin and load things into a cache on the HDD which is faster reading than an optical drive (Blu-Ray and HD-DVD included).
Yea...the HD is faster than the BD-Rom drive...so obviously that would mean faster loads if cached to the HD. Ken Kuteragi talked about this at e3, how the HD standard will help game loading times. Which is always a plus.

[Dagless]

I still find it amusing that Sony didn't bother creating a new system interface for the PS3. Its fine on a handheld system but I can see myself going through hundreds of icons to find the settings for a system with the PS3's (supposed) capibilities.

I know what you mean. They came up with this menu for their PSX Japanese console and hey hey, just like the Dual Shock controller it's back yet again! I'm all for keeping with traditional methods but a bit of imagination wouldn't go amiss. Anyways - I found this floating around the web

now, on to why the menu for the ps3 and the psp is bad ui design.

usability studies have shown that people “search and select” when it comes to navigating interfaces. they evaluate their choices and then select the option that seems to meet the requirement of getting closer to meeting their goal.

the ui for the 360 dashboard has many (relatively) tightly descriptive options for each navigation choice. you are never lost. it is a conscious decision as to where to go next. the consistent labels help to make it clear as to where you are going next. is it perfect? no, of course not. parts of it still make me cringe, but there is always room for improvement.

the psp and ps3 however, make the mistake of form over function. i’m not exactly sure who they’ve got designing their ui, but jakob nielsen would have a heyday were he in the console business.

off the top of my head:

1) there are no descriptive labels until you start navigating. this breaks the “search and select” mentality.

2) to make it worse, once you stop, they go away and you are left with no labels at all — again.

3) the icons are too similar in size, color and placement to each other. this makes it easy to lose your place.

4) important text labels are partly obscured by other parts of the ui — to facilitate the nice, “boxes and arrows” type of design, of course.

I don't fully agree with it but it does make some good points.

[mishi]

lol consoles are kiddies toys...

I want to plug your PS3 into my 30" screen and see how it runs on the native rez

kiddies toys

[Dagless]

lol consoles are kiddies toys...

I want to plug your PS3 into my 30" screen and see how it runs on the native rez

kiddies toys

Kiddy toys are relative to graphics resolution? I hope I can get money back for my PowerBook! Apple flogging me a kids toy... I HATE YOU APPLE

[mishi]

Kiddy toys are relative to graphics resolution? I hope I can get money back for my PowerBook! Apple flogging me a kids toy... I HATE YOU APPLE

no, but my PC runs stuff fine on that screen...

PC for gaming
Mac for everything else

Consoles do not fit anywhere

unless you are like...10 years old

oh by the way i am NOT calling the screen a kiddies toy

<3 that screen

lucky it was free :D

[Haoshiro]

Yea...the HD is faster than the BD-Rom drive...so obviously that would mean faster loads if cached to the HD. Ken Kuteragi talked about this at e3, how the HD standard will help game loading times. Which is always a plus.

Yet there were Xbox games that did not have good load times (even Halo wasn't that great), so an HDD may help, but it doesn't mean developers will take advantage of it as well as they could, and it certaintly won't make load times great.

A lot of PC games have horrid load times (Far Cry anyone?), and the entire game is already ON the HDD.

[yellow]

That's not the release controller is it? I hope not. I HATE those controllers. I'm 6'6" and those controllers feel like they are built for children (or asians, go figure). I thought the PS3 would have fancy-schmancy new controllers?

[sikkinixx]

rather than start a new thread

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/736/736936p1.html

some peripherals were shown and priced (in Japan)

~$12.75US for the memory card to USB cable

~$30.60US for the remote control

~$42.50US for an additional controller.

Thats just taking the listed yen price and converting it to yankee dollars. So probably $14.99, $34.99 and $49.99 for them? I would be happy if the memory card thing was under 20 bucks cdn

and the controller is named Six Axis (wasn't it already?) Kind of a lame name to moi but meh, its just a controller....

[Dagless]

no, but my PC runs stuff fine on that screen...

PC for gaming
Mac for everything else

Consoles do not fit anywhere

unless you are like...10 years old

oh by the way i am NOT calling the screen a kiddies toy

<3 that screen

lucky it was free :D

I'm 20 and I play consoles, more than that 10 estimate ;) Where does the DS fit into this? what with Touch Generation games bringing in even OAP players?

[2nyRiggz]

That's not the release controller is it? I hope not. I HATE those controllers. I'm 6'6" and those controllers feel like they are built for children (or asians, go figure). I thought the PS3 would have fancy-schmancy new controllers?

Oh yeah thats the controller. I'm not too concern about the controller(I'm use to it now and I got bear claws for hands), the shine or the weight. The only thing i'm concern with is the construction of the console...once its sturdy and can take a kick or two then I'm fine with it.

Sony kept the same design as the PS2 just round it off a bit..staying with it I guess. Not a bad looking machine but not the best looking.


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[XNine]

Kiddy toys eh? What a ****ing noob troll.

[whooleytoo]

Both videos now down, couldn't view them. :(

[Haoshiro]

I know what you mean. They came up with this menu for their PSX Japanese console and hey hey, just like the Dual Shock controller it's back yet again! I'm all for keeping with traditional methods but a bit of imagination wouldn't go amiss. Anyways - I found this floating around the web

I don't fully agree with it but it does make some good points.

The problem is that the opinions of UI designers vary quite widely.

Personally I don't think text labels are all that important so long as the iconic representation is clear. Text labels can, imo, slow someone down as it can be a visual crutch (prompting someone to read, rather then recognize the imagery).

[SpankyPenzaanz]

The problem is that the opinions of UI designers vary quite widely.

Personally I don't think text labels are all that important so long as the iconic representation is clear. Text labels can, imo, slow someone down as it can be a visual crutch (prompting someone to read, rather then recognize the imagery).

Well chimps and gorrillas can idenitify basic shapes and images

[Dagless]

Well chimps and gorrillas can idenitify basic shapes and images

They also roll poo up and throw at people. Your point?

[crap freakboy]

I'm 20 and I play consoles, more than that 10 estimate ;) Where does the DS fit into this? what with Touch Generation games bringing in even OAP players?


God, wth does that make me? Sad? I play several times a week on a chipped Xbox (60+ games) and my wife recently bought me a DS (7 games and counting)...and I'm...cough...6 months shy of ....40...there I said it.
Played games since well forever....everything in moderation. Although it did almost get out of hand many years ago with Quake3.

[xli_ne]

check out its display :eek:

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/10/sony_kiosk.jpg

[Epicurus]

check out its display :eek:

Is that a Best Buy? Where? When can I get my hands on a demo? :eek:

[Dagless]

if only the picture poster gave more details :rolleyes:
It's infact a non-playable video stand. and, IIRC, it's not in Europe/US.

... and there seems to be a fridge too.

[Mackilroy]

... and there seems to be a fridge too.

Coming to your house soon – the Playstation Fridge! Not only that, but two models! The Premium fridge comes with sixty cubic feet of storage space, HDMI so you can get your HDCP-protected drinks, and wireless so you can open them without getting up! The "Regular" fridge also includes HDMI, but only has twenty cubic feet of storage space and no wireless. Both fridges include the ability to view your drinks in 1080p.

;)

[Dagless]

call me tired, but I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not :p there is a fridge like object in the bottom right of the pic. some kind of cupboard perhaps? ... a cupboard???

cupboardy.

[Abulia]

Sony stock took a dive today, supposedly due to reports of demo PS3 units overheating causing analyists to worry about the final shipping units.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger, okay?

[twoodcc]

Sony stock took a dive today, supposedly due to reports of demo PS3 units overheating causing analyists to worry about the final shipping units.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger, okay?

what makes you think that's the reason?

[SpankyPenzaanz]

what makes you think that's the reason?

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3154183

[honeytoast]

way too much money

[sikkinixx]

way too much money

*sigh* :rolleyes: ... *sigh*

[Mackilroy]

call me tired, but I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not :p there is a fridge like object in the bottom right of the pic. some kind of cupboard perhaps? ... a cupboard???

cupboardy.

I was trying to be funny. :p Obviously I failed. ;)

[Counterfit]

God, wth does that make me? Sad? I play several times a week on a chipped Xbox (60+ games) and my wife recently bought me a DS (7 games and counting)...and I'm...cough...6 months shy of ....40...there I said it.
Played games since well forever....everything in moderation. Although it did almost get out of hand many years ago with Quake3.
Don't worry. I'm pretty sure my father spends more time than me on GameCube and XBox. Hell, he even bought MoH: Rising Sun for himself! Too bad it's a crappy game.

Oh, and part of the reason he spends more time playing is because it takes him longer to beat games. :rolleyes:

Edit: heh, I forgot to mention, he's 55, and he's been playing since the first Legend of Zelda. :eek:

[ReanimationLP]

Wee.

From what I was told at my job, we're supposed to get a PS3 in sometime this month.

[yellow]

Edit: heh, I forgot to mention, he's 55

It's funny.. I'm 35 now and I have no plans on stopping being a gamer. I'm REALLY kind of excited to see what gaming will be like when I'm in my 60s. It's hard to imagine what it will be like being a retired old fart and still nukin' b*tches in Battlefield10 or whatever. :)

[2nyRiggz]

Dude at TGS: PS3 overheats at TGS
Sony: uh huh, LIES!

Some of us: HA, told you so!:)

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6159307.html?tag=latestnews;title;0



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[the Western zoo]

I'm 22 years old and I'll properly end up buying the ps3 so I can play Metal Gear Solid 4 - pretty expensive for one game, I know... I'v been playing console games ever since 1995 when the psx came out in europe! Or actually I've been playing since before that but the psx was the first console I owned cause my parents didnøt want me to have a console and so didn't want to buy one for me... So I had to wait for ownership till I could buy one my self! :D Ever since I've been sort of in love with the Playstation brand!!

Btw sucks that they pulled the video before I saw this thread... :D

[sikkinixx]

*sniff* nooooooooo! crap... Rogers Video (video rental place here in BC, maybe in all of canada?) Was doing Wii and PS3 Preorders... it said quantity limited! Hurry! But when i clicked on it...it said sold out :( :(

*sigh*buddy at the store I called said they havent even been doing it for a day yet and they are already sold out! fudgesicles...

[Counterfit]

It's funny.. I'm 35 now and I have no plans on stopping being a gamer. I'm REALLY kind of excited to see what gaming will be like when I'm in my 60s. It's hard to imagine what it will be like being a retired old fart and still nukin' b*tches in Battlefield10 or whatever. :)
Duke Nukem Forever might actually be out by then. :D

[ReanimationLP]

Duke Nukem Forever might actually be out by then. :D

OWNED.

[sikkinixx]

OWNED.

im sure you mean pwnd ;)