Latest MacBook Pro Rumors... This Week?

[MacRumors]

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MacGadget.de (German) (http://www.macgadget.de/) reports that MacBook Pro upgrades could take place as early as this week. Expected updates include Core 2 Duo upgrades as has long been expected as well as larger drives, FW800, and upgraded DVD drives.

Meanwhile, product checks (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2163) indicate that several European hardware distributers "ran dry" of MacBook and MacBook Pro inventory several weeks ago.

Rumors of MacBook Pro upgrades have been ongoing for weeks. The last MacRumors.com reported rumor from MacGadget.de comes from an iBook update prediction (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/10/20041015154040.shtml) in 2004. That rumor turned out to be true (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/10/20041019083450.shtml).

[toughboy]

Fire'em Steve

[Abstract]

Well when you really think about it, at least one of these rumours has got to be true. We have MBP Merom rumours that cover every week from August til January 2007.

[Deej]

Could it *really* be true....??? :D

[dalvin200]

Well when you really think about it, at least one of these rumours has got to be true. We have MBP Merom rumours that cover every week from August til January 2007.

and you know this :)

it just bugs you when you dont get any indication of what's coming.. especially when you're on the fence as to whether to buy now or wait till tuesday..

maybe the pre-announcement of the iTV is a start of the turning trend? i think not.. :D

macrumors buyers guide (http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/) says not to buy the MPB as an update is coming soon..

[meepm00pmeep]

i'd like to see what's inside the new MBP's, though i already bought my MBP a couple weeks ago with no regrets.. i'd still like to see what those who are waiting will get for their hard earned patience

[dalvin200]

i'd like to see what's inside the new MBP's, though i already bought my MBP a couple weeks ago with no regrets.. i'd still like to see what those who are waiting will get for their hard earned patience

a 1 second increase in boot time? ;)

oops.. i blinked and I missed it :P

JUST KIDDING YOU SERIOUS GUYS OUT THERE

[Zadillo]

At this point does anyone even need a "source" for one of these rumors? It seems like at this point anyone can say "MBP updates coming as early as THIS WEEK!!" and it is eventually going to be true, as Abstract says.

[kretzy]

Please let this bring something. I'm getting sick of the constantly repetitive threads.

[kjr39]

Sigh.

Okay fine, I guess I'll buy one of these new fancy MBP with a C2D processor instead of continuing to wait for the 12" G5 PB...

[gkhaldi]

If it can't support 4gigs of ram, it ain't worth the wait for me.:mad:

[iJaz]

I can bet $100 that there will be MacBook/Pro upgrades either this year or next year!

[gkhaldi]

I can bet $100 that there will be MacBook/Pro upgrades either this year or next year!

200 bucks says you can't predict the date ;)

EDIT = forgot the quote

[Squonk]

... and here we go again!

I hope they come out soon. And then I really, really hope that whatever it is, that people do not start moaning about that one too! I cannot guarantee that I won't be sharing my opinion....

Steve - pull the trigger, but only when it's ready for primetime!

[deputy_doofy]

Yes!! Thread# 50000000000 regarding the upcoming MBP. I'm ready to buy. Just made a nice, big payment to the credit card, so it's ready, too.
I don't have the same demands as other people for what should be in the new MBP. Yes, I want the C2D, obviously, but if it can't access 4gb of RAM, I won't care. My PB only has 512mb at the moment, so 1gb will be fine with me. :D

[vincebio]

superb...im travelling to states this week, and could pick one up at the apple store 5th avenue for much cheaper than here in uk..

its gottta come out sometime...

[iAlan]

Well when you really think about it, at least one of these rumours has got to be true. We have MBP Merom rumours that cover every week from August til January 2007.

Actually, we have rumours that cover every week from August til January 2009!

[wchong]

Tuesday Release!!!!

[Leoff]

superb...im travelling to states this week, and could pick one up at the apple store 5th avenue for much cheaper than here in uk..

its gottta come out sometime...

You do know that you'll be getting a US-formatted keyboard and AC adapter, yes?

[noservice2001]

o please red!!!

[abrooks]

You do know that you'll be getting a US-formatted keyboard and AC adapter, yes?

Worth it, he could end up saving several hundred pounds!

I always by my portables in America.

[Rocketman]

The fact this rumour comes from a "reliable" source is helpful. But since MB and MBP have been dry for WEEKS there and they (Apple supply chain) typically do things to prep europe before the USA due to the added lead times, is this really a rumor or merely "european news" of a defacto event that simply has not yet been announced in the USA?

You know, like 20 truckloads of iPods leaving the factory in China, or Intel announcing Clovertown C2Q for mid-November which happens to socket right into and be immediately recognized by Mac Pro's, or the reports from Chinese factory town newspapers of contracts for "new" MacBooks, MacBook Pros, wide screen iPod, etc.

Those are actually news not rumours, right?

Rocketman

[Prints]

Tuesday Release!!!!



from your lips to Steve's ear....

[bryanc]

I've been ready to buy, and waiting for a merom-based MBP since July, but I almost hope this turns out to be wrong.

A quite Tuesday speedbump would most probably mean a simple chip swap, and that these new MBPs would be otherwise just like their predecessors.

I'm rather hoping for a significant enclosure redesign (easily swappable hdds, magnetic latch, better ventilation, etc. and black anodized aluminum would be nice), as well as significant component changes (802.11n, better GPU, crestline chipset, etc.).

So I've rather been hoping for an 'event' at which these significantly upgraded MBPs could debut. I doubt the kinds of significant changes I'm hoping for would be released without some sort of fanfare.

Cheers

[timmillwood]

I hope its comes out tomorrow, (24th October) i have been waiting too long.. Come on Apple!!! my credit card is ready

[EGT]

Please let this bring something. I'm getting sick of the constantly repetitive threads.

They're never going away. After this release, there'll be posts about the next processor/upgrade. "Should I buy or should I wait!!?" :p

Anyway, Macbook Pro updates tomorrow, woohoo. :cool:

[Scarlet Fever]

can't wait for the "my C2D MBP isn't much faster than my old CD MBP; Why did you make us wait, Apple?!?!" threads to emerge

ill just sit here, blissfully working away on my excessivly powerful baseline MacBook... :D

[bryanc]

So I've rather been hoping for an 'event' at which these significantly upgraded MBPs could debut. I doubt the kinds of significant changes I'm hoping for would be released without some sort of fanfare.

sorry to quote myself, but i just realized that the UK Mac Expo is this week, and that would be a good venue for releasing new MBPs

so my prediction is Oct 26 at the UK MacExpo.

cheers

[raymondso]

Hoping not only MBP, but also MP.
I've been waiting too long with my money burning my pocket :(

update: sorry, should be MB instead of MP, typing mistake

[Josias]

yes baby. give me my mormom MBP!:D

I stopped wondering whether they'll come at all...;)

[markfc]

Well, if you want to hear from my reliable source, stocks of macbooks and macbook pros are due in on the 27th/28th October.

You heard it here first!

:-)

[timmillwood]

sorry to quote myself, but i just realized that the UK Mac Expo is this week, and that would be a good venue for releasing new MBPs

so my prediction is Oct 26 at the UK MacExpo.

cheers

i think they will stick with Tuesday then just show it off at the EXPO, this will be a silent update because no invites have been sent so there is no reason to wait for friday when they can do it Monday.

I hope to have it order Tuesday and delivered by the end of the week?
Any chance?

[Phishin' it]

What are the chances the macbooks will be updated at the same time as the pros?

[dornoforpyros]

oh don't worry kids, they WILL be released tomorrow because I just bought on saturday :P

[prady16]

I hope they start shipping them right away or at least have loooots of stock available at the retail stores!

[MrFrankly]

I always by my portables in America.

Don't you end up spending so much money on tax when you enter the UK again that it isn't really worth it?

[prady16]

I hope to have it order Tuesday and delivered by the end of the week?
Any chance?
I highly doubt it!

[sth]

If it can't support 4gigs of ram, it ain't worth the wait for me.:mad:
I've read that even the current MBP supports 4gigs.
Apple just doesn't offer it in their store since the CPU can only address around 3,2gigs (like every other 32bit cpu).

[Chundles]

Don't you end up spending so much money on tax when you enter the UK again that it isn't really worth it?

Not if you open it, load some stuff onto it and take it through customs in your carry-on. Get rid of the box and nobody can say that you didn't buy it in the UK and are just coming home.

[stevehp]

please let this be true. I've had enough of waiting and these posts are too much to handle every week!

[raymondso]

does anyone know what time will the store be down when there is new product out? :)

[bob_hearn]

Of course, we all know exactly what this rumor really means.

It means, simply, that the "Full Laptop Refresh By Holidays?" thread will stop short of 4000.

[Greebazoid]

Am I alone in wishing there was more effort in getting universal binaries of MS Office, photoshop and all the other stuff that slows even the fastest Mac down rather than all the effort spent in playing the Speculation Game?

Yeah, probably I am.

(I love my MBPro)

[Major Kong]

Some users in Germany report that their dealers told them existing MacBook (Pro) orders will be deleted and re-ordered tomorrow due to new releases of these notebooks.

All systems go for tomorrow update. :)

[twoodcc]

well i hope it happens this week. but i'll believe it when i see it

[Westside guy]

Okay, calm down, I have the real dirt here.

What's really happening is MacRumors has a 4000 post limit on its threads; it's known about this bug for a while yet hasn't dealt with it. The old C2D MBP thread is almost at 3700 posts now, and Arn is starting to panic... so he's hoping this will resolve the problem.

I kid, I kid... :D

[wal9000]

MacGadget.de (German) (http://www.macgadget.de/) reports that MacBook Pro upgrades could take place as early as this week. Expected updates include Core 2 Duo upgrades as has long been expected as well as larger drives, FW800, and upgraded DVD drives.

Starting to feel about as likely as flying saucers...

http://www.wal9000.aonservers.com/hostedpics/mbp_wanttobelieve.jpg

[BriChi]

Of course tomorrow, I just purchased the white Macbook 2.0 Tuesday. If they come out tomorrow looks like I am returning mine for the new c2d. I will pay the restocking fee if I have to

[dalvin200]

well i hope it happens this week. but i'll believe it when i see it

i saw it in my dream.. does that count? ;)

[prady16]

Some users in Germany report that their dealers told them existing MacBook (Pro) orders will be deleted and re-ordered tomorrow due to new releases of these notebooks.

All systems go for tomorrow update. :)
Maybe you forgot the word "reliable" between some and users. :D

[matznentosh]

You do know that you'll be getting a US-formatted keyboard and AC adapter, yes?

Don't forget the AC adapter works on UK voltage, you just need the plug adapter.

[Tubby The Bull]

Hi folks!

I've read Macrumors every day for years, so I figure I may as well start participating :)

Last Friday, we took our Nov'05 PowerBook into the local Apple dealer to trade it in for a MBP. We've been with particular dealer for over 10 years, so there is a good trust/freindship thing going on. Anyhow, the dealer told us he expects new MBP models within 10 days, so he is holding our order until Halloween.

He's been right before, so we have a pretty good feeling about October 31st.

Obviously, it can't be verified... I'm just relaying the info I've been given.

Don't flame me - I'm a friendly Canuk :p

Tubby

[DesignDJ]

This news just in....

"My infant son began to cry when I placed the MacBook Pro in my shopping cart this morning, this is a clear indication that the MBP could be updated as soon as this week. More news to follow..."

[dalvin200]

Hi folks!

I've read Macrumors every day for years, so I figure I may as well start participating :)

I work for an ad agency, and last Friday, we took our Nov'06 PowerBook into the local Apple dealer to trade it in for a MBP.
Tubby

Nov'06? wow.. the future :)

[MonkeyClaw]

This news just in....

"My infant son began to cry when I placed the MacBook Pro in my shopping cart this morning, this is a clear indication that the MBP could be updated as soon as this week. More news to follow..."

ROFL!!!!

I dunno, I really have a gut feeling that tomorrow will be the day, but in the end, my PowerBook G4 is still gettin the job done :D

[Tilpots]

Orange enclosures and a scary, carved apple face for a Halloween Release!:D

[Tubby The Bull]

Nov'06? wow.. the future :)

doh! sorry... Nov'05

[extraextra]

Starting to feel about as likely as flying saucers...

http://www.wal9000.aonservers.com/hostedpics/mbp_wanttobelieve.jpg

Lol


I hope it comes out this week, for all those who are waiting.

[shabbasuraj]

Tuesday is the day.

I think it is for real.





allegedly....

[finchna]

Apple needs to get away from making such a big deal our of small updates (processor change) as Intel will have such things changing more often than motorola or ibm ever did. apple should reserve such announcements and hoopla for major revisions or complete overhauls. based on recent benchmarks there is little performance improvement in these new chips save for the speed bump.

[CEAbiscuit]

Since there is little to no hope that apple will bring back the 12" casing, my powerbook will have to for now. It just seems to keep chugging... the new (free, because of recall) battery seems to further my resolve in resisting to make a move. The earliest purchase of a new powerbook will wait until next year when I can have a new OS. Simpleton's rule...

[darkwing]

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/intelcoreduo.html

That no longer exists. Go to the mbp page and click the core duo icon, and I get a page not found.

This will probably change by the time anyone verifies it. :rolleyes:

[stevehp]

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/intelcoreduo.html

That no longer exists. Go to the mbp page and click the core duo icon, and I get a page not found.

This will probably change by the time anyone verifies it. :rolleyes:

not working for me either!

[Mulyahnto]

MacGadget.de who?

[Phishin' it]

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/intelcoreduo.html

That no longer exists. Go to the mbp page and click the core duo icon, and I get a page not found.

This will probably change by the time anyone verifies it. :rolleyes:



I got the same thing.

[dalvin200]

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/intelcoreduo.html

That no longer exists. Go to the mbp page and click the core duo icon, and I get a page not found.

This will probably change by the time anyone verifies it. :rolleyes:

same here..

[timmillwood]

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/intelcoreduo.html

That no longer exists. Go to the mbp page and click the core duo icon, and I get a page not found.

This will probably change by the time anyone verifies it. :rolleyes:

This is getting very annoying!!!

It is old news, the page its supposed to link to http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/intel.html

[deputy_doofy]

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/intelcoreduo.html

That no longer exists. Go to the mbp page and click the core duo icon, and I get a page not found.

This will probably change by the time anyone verifies it. :rolleyes:

Sorry to destroy hopes and dreams, but the link is http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/intel.html and has been for a while. Somebody has been SLOW to update that old link.

[ready2switch]

Apple needs to get away from making such a big deal our of small updates (processor change) as Intel will have such things changing more often than motorola or ibm ever did. apple should reserve such announcements and hoopla for major revisions or complete overhauls. based on recent benchmarks there is little performance improvement in these new chips save for the speed bump.

Agreed. Exactly why C2D should have been dropped in a month ago alongside the major PC manufacturers. While Merom is a necessary update for Apple's new place in the world of Intel, it's not really that big. Save the hype for enclosure redesigns and other major changes.

[prady16]

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/intelcoreduo.html

That no longer exists. Go to the mbp page and click the core duo icon, and I get a page not found.

This will probably change by the time anyone verifies it. :rolleyes:

This has been so for a loooong time now. Probably over a month.
The correct link is: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/intel.html

I guess the webmaster is just sleeping on the job!
Or is too busy preparing new pages for the *redesigned* MBP! :D

Edit: Oops deputy_doofy beat me to it!

[OdduWon]

look there they are... oh no, wait those are irish books professionals

[corywoolf]

I can tell you the CompUSA I work at is all out of them, that never happens. We are also out of the iSight and Airport Extreme. Any day now Apple!

[slffl]

As I am waiting for a revision to get a new macbook pro, i really hope when they do update them, it's a major overhaul with a bunch of new goodies. I'm not saying the current design is bad, but I've had my 17" PB for 3.5 years and I just need something new.

[ezekielrage_99]

So Macbooks next tuesday :confused:

[alec]

New MacBook Pro's and video iPods for some, abortions and miniature American flags for others

[Mikkel]

I ordered a MBP 2.16GHz with 2gigs Ram last tuesday (17th october) and on apples "order status" it is estimated to be shipped on friday the 27th.. so I hope there an update during this week :D

Do you guys know how long it usually take ship a MBP? In the danish applestore it says 3 days :confused:

[prady16]

I ordered a MBP 2.16GHz with 2gigs Ram last tuesday (17th october) and on apples "order status" it is estimated to be shipped on friday the 27th.. so I hope there an update during this week :D
You could actually be in luck!!

[OdduWon]

So Macbooks next tuesday :confused:
yes on the 31 we shall have a trick and a treat... ...MACBOO
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/jonathaniliff/macboo2-1.jpg

[indigoflowAS]

This update had best show up w/ an updated GPU (256 X1600 standard at least), otherwise the ~10% performance increase and other oddball tidbits is hardly worth it.

I'm starting to think I'm gonna sit this one out, as on the edge of my seat I have been for some time. But at this rate, goodness knows when the next update will be. Back to my TiBook I go.

[fblack]

If this is true then...hallelujah! :)

[mdntcallr]

Tuesday Release!!!!

lets hope!! apple usually does them around tues.

[Strigoi]

I'm hoping for a MPB with: Core 2 Duo up to 2.33 Ghz - Flash boot (NAND memory) - better GPU, ATI launched her x1800 mobile GPU march 2006 - 802.11n - more ram capacity - firewire 800 and faster super drive.

But Im afread I have to wait untill january for this master piece of mobile technology. :(

[autrefois]

I'm afraid everyone misunderstood the headline.

Latest MacBook Pro Rumors... This Week?

I agree. My prediction is that yes, the latest MacBook Pro rumors will appear this week!!

:D

[thereubster]

Its not going to happen yet. The Chipset to support it isn't yet available (till next year)
I'm picking Core 2 Duo (up to 2.33Ghz optional), FW800, new superdrives with DL support (or MAYBE Blu-ray option, they are available after all), New display options (higher rez), larger HD and thats it.
What I would like to see them add is eSATA support but I bet they dont.

[shecky]

What I would like to see them add is eSATA support but I bet they dont.

agreed, and agreed.

[Reverend Wally]

As I have said before....

"round and 'round and 'round she goes.....
Where she stops....nobody knows

:p

[nicksoper]

I've been waiting for my 17 inch macbook pro for months now, and it's finnaly due to arrive on Monday. (Getting it from UK to South Africa without it getting stolen is a big problem I've had)

So I'll be gutted if they release new one, but I'm working on the old 1ghz G4 powerbook, so I'm going to be flying anyway! With or without the extra odd 20% speed of the core2 duo.....

Perhaps there will be the case re-design though, that would be nice.

[AppliedVisual]

I've read that even the current MBP supports 4gigs.
Apple just doesn't offer it in their store since the CPU can only address around 3,2gigs (like every other 32bit cpu).

Unfortunately, the current MBP is restricted to about 3.2GB because of the 32bit CPU *AND* the 32bit i945 chipset. Intel won't have a 64bit mobile chipset until they ship Crestline (the i965 mobile chipset for Santa Rosa). So, unless Crestline is ready early and Apple has some sort of exclusive agreement, the updated MBP still will not allow anyone to use more than approximately 3.2GB of RAM.

In a 32bit system, the 32bit CPUs and/or chipsets can address a total memory capacity of 4GB. But this 4GB address window must account for all memory I/O addresses, BIOS/ROM as well as video memory in addition to the actual RAM heap. That is why when you install 4GB of RAM, you essentially miss out on the last 600 to 800 MB. Also why the C2D/Merom iMac systems can only be configured with up to 3GB of RAM. Apple probably figured they didn't need to sell people RAM that they can't use. Some PC vendors still sell 4GB installed into such systems even though it can't all be used because by installing two matched 2GB modules, the dual-channel performance benefits are there, just not the last 800MB.

[iSee]

Hey, if there's a rumor every single week that upgraded macbooks/mbps, it will eventually be true! :D :D :D

When it finally does come true, MR will announce it snidely: "Apple announces upgraded notebooks today, as predicted..." and link back to the one rumor (of dozens, I think) that was accurate.

[AppliedVisual]

Hey, if there's a rumor every single week that upgraded macbooks/mbps, it will eventually be true! :D :D :D

When it finally does come true, MR will announce it snidely: "Apple announces upgraded notebooks today, as predicted..." and link back to the one rumor (of dozens, I think) that was accurate.

Of course... That's the way a lot of this "inside" info works. There were several rumor sites claiming updated MBP systems at Photokina. For the sake of not flaming one only to flame another, the claims made by most of these sites mysteriously vanished by about day 2 of Photokina. They made a huge deal over it and then no retractions or anything, they just pulled the articles from their sites as if it had never existed. AppleInsider did this, but they must have actually got real insider info because they pulled their little tidbit about it the day before Apple's Photokina event (Aperture update). So someone must have tipped them off that no notebook update was happening.

[freebooter]

New MacBook Pro's and video iPods for some, abortions and miniature American flags for others

Ha Hah Haah!! Classic! Truly the best bit of poetry I've read on any thread.

[blackghostknife]

New MacBook Pro's and video iPods for some, abortions and miniature American flags for others

Yeah, um... what?

And I think I'll take the former...

[jellomizer]

i'd like to see what's inside the new MBP's, though i already bought my MBP a couple weeks ago with no regrets.. i'd still like to see what those who are waiting will get for their hard earned patience

Well we get the feeling of getting the best system for a while. If you got the old MBP while I am sure you will be happy with it for a long time. It is just nice to have a system where they don't introduce a new one for about 6 months.

But for myself who is waiting it is more about waiting for a Generation 2 which I promiced myself, when the MBP first came out. I would have origionally bought a MBP if a few months ago they just increased the speed to 2.33 ghz. I was just waiting for one more processor upgrade. But now with all the rumors I just can't get myself to get one until it has a Core 2 Dou or better in it.

[rxse7en]

New MacBook Pro's and video iPods for some, abortions and miniature American flags for others

Sacrilicious!

[Butthead]

Unfortunately, the current MBP is restricted to about 3.2GB because of the 32bit CPU *AND* the 32bit i945 chipset. Intel won't have a 64bit mobile chipset until they ship Crestline (the i965 mobile chipset for Santa Rosa). So, unless Crestline is ready early and Apple has some sort of exclusive agreement, the updated MBP still will not allow anyone to use more than approximately 3.2GB of RAM.

...

Arrgh, MR Administrator should now be boiling up a pot of linguine noodles for self-flagellation. ;P Then do the right thing and fold this thread back into the main MBP rumor thread...sheesh! Not another thread of people who have not read through the 3.6k posts in the main thread on the MBP, all this people rehashing the same stupid "it better have this, I want crestline, I hope, I hope upgraded GPU (not gonna happen, sorry), I want this upgrade and that...NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Look it's simple Apple couldn't get enough if the lower yield, highest speed Merom chips after they decided to use them in the iMac 1st (while all the PC manufacturers used Conroe for their desktops). meaning that Apple had to wait for Intel to supply them with enough chips to roll out the laptop Meroms, based on exactly the same Napa chipset/platform that the Yonah MBP's are based on. It's simply a minor speed bump by changing over to the 64bit Merom, with very few other upgrades that would constitute a 'silent' upgrade.---same as iMac, just later than iMac cause they couldn't get enough chips for both the iMac & MBP at the same time. End of story.

Major upgrades or case redesign (for better cooling, which would require new motherboards) will not come until Santa Rosa chipset/platform becomes available NEXT year.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=2943835&postcount=2906

But to repeat from that prior post link of a Sept 26th story:

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/09/27/intel_intros_santa_rosa/

"Intel is still saying Santa Rosa will ship in H1 2007, though it's expected to come late Q1/early Q2"

No, Santa Rosa (which Crestline is a part of) will not be showing up miraculously early for Apple this year (or any other manufacturer) only via "exclusive" lol- the mighty Steve-O is all powerful, yet IBM & Freescale blew him off, dream on.

GM965 official name for 'Crestline' mobile chip that comes with integrated Intel GPU (MB's will likely get this one too to the dismay of the MB hopeful; sorry Apple goes for the absolute cheapest solutions in the MB line, this is their history, remember the 1st iBooks that omitted the FW port, even though the MB had the FW support on it!). PM965 would be the one Apple will use for separate ATI or Nvidia GPU.

[PodPacker]

Updates are expected very soon boys and ghouls! My dealer at a Mac Online Store just sent me an e-mail announcing a $100+ price drop on MacBook Pro laptops.

[PygmySurfer]

Updates are expected very soon boys and ghouls!

It's "boils and ghouls" ;)

[Peace]

Battery and component shortages abound ladies and gentlemen.Have patience.

http://news.com.com/2061-10792_3-6128501.html?part=rss&tag=6128501&subj=news

[czeluff]

In my opinion, there is a VERY good possibility of the Macbook Pros being updated tomorrow. Here's Why:

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

If you look at the Macbook Pro's "last updated" section, you'll notice that it was April 24, 2006. Tomorrow will be October 24, 2006, exactly 6 month's difference. Coincidence? perhaps, but in my opinion if it's not tomorrow, it's not until late November.

Chad Z

[quigleybc]

New MacBook Pro's and video iPods for some, abortions and miniature American flags for others



LOL

Abortions for ALL !!

ha ha, best Pimpsons quote ever.

oh, and ya, new laptops would be neat.

[Spectrum]

You do know that you'll be getting a US-formatted keyboard and AC adapter, yes?

Well... I'm a Brit, but live in the states for a while at the moment. When I compared by friends UK PB keyboard, I much prefer the US style (a first for me! :D), and will probably hope to buy a new computer before I leave for this specific reason.

For example, what is with the tiny UK return key? And why don't they put the names of the modifier keys on the keyboard? (apart form the Apple/Command key). The symbols are just not intuitive to me.

[djkny]

No new updates until MWSF 2007, according to degadgetplus, macrumormongersco, macnewstodayfor, and my third cousin's online reseller friends at comp America, columbus university, and the Berlin college of fine arts.

Also, depleted stocks at the macwarehouseeu doesn't mean that updates are imminent ... only that they're awaiting more shipments of current MBP's held up by Kim Jong Il's recent aluminum gadget fetish ...

[Unorthodox]

The wheels on the rumor mill go 'round and 'round, 'round and 'round, 'round and 'round.

[MacsRgr8]

I bet ya.... these will be called:


PowerBook G5!!


:D

[Zadillo]

I'm hoping for a MPB with: Core 2 Duo up to 2.33 Ghz - Flash boot (NAND memory) - better GPU, ATI launched her x1800 mobile GPU march 2006 - 802.11n - more ram capacity - firewire 800 and faster super drive.

But Im afread I have to wait untill january for this master piece of mobile technology. :(

The X1800 is a monster though...... I think the only thing you can even find it in is some of those high-end 17" gaming behemoth laptops. I can't see any possible way they'd fit it into the 15 or 17" MBP.

[Zadillo]

Apple needs to get away from making such a big deal our of small updates (processor change) as Intel will have such things changing more often than motorola or ibm ever did. apple should reserve such announcements and hoopla for major revisions or complete overhauls. based on recent benchmarks there is little performance improvement in these new chips save for the speed bump.

How exactly is Apple making a big deal out of small updates? The recent processor updates Apple has done (Core Duo to Core 2 Duo on the iMac and the speedbumped Core Duos on the MBP earlier this year) were quiet launches, with no announcements or hoopla at all really. The only real hoopla with the iMac was about the 24" screen, but it was certainly subdued. Hell, Apple made a bigger deal out of the Apple Hi-Fi.

The only people making a big deal out of it are ourselves.

[durvivor]

In my opinion, there is a VERY good possibility of the Macbook Pros being updated tomorrow. Here's Why:
If you look at the Macbook Pro's "last updated" section, you'll notice that it was April 24, 2006. Tomorrow will be October 24, 2006, exactly 6 month's difference. Coincidence? perhaps, but in my opinion if it's not tomorrow, it's not until late November.

Awesome, this means there will be further Macbook and Macbook Pro updates on April 24th (a Tuesday). I'm guessing that will be too early for Santa Rosa w/ Robsin caching technology. But, I bet there will be speed increases, graphics and hd increases.

[briantology]

When does anyone think Apple will throw in the rumored Flash mem?

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

When does anyone think Apple will throw in the rumored Flash mem?
When they get Intels Santa Rosa chipset, since it is going to implement it.

[scottlinux]

I don't know if this update is imminent. apple.com store still shows macbooks and mbp as shipping within 24 hours....

[AutumnSkyline]

I don't know if this update is imminent. apple.com store still shows macbooks and mbp as shipping within 24 hours....


then they lie!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

[Westside guy]

I don't know if this update is imminent. apple.com store still shows macbooks and mbp as shipping within 24 hours....

Powerpage is starting to show a significant drop in availability...

http://www.pcprices.net/macbookpro.shtml

Nothing like the old days when the 15" Titanium supply went completely dry though. ;)

[®îçhå®?]

I hope so. I want mine ASAP and hopefully before the MacExpo in London.

[gakh]

I'll probably be waiting awhile, but I won't be purchasing a MBP until it has the Core 2 Quadro, built-in bootable flash memory for quicker booting times, and a hard drive that can be easily swapped out like the MB line currently has. It makes more sense to me to have a Professional line of notebooks with a hard drive that can be replaced easily than having consumer notebooks with this feature. After a user returns with my company's shared notebook, I could simply swap out the HD with a cleanly imaged HD to give to the next user. Why would the average home user or a non-tech college student with a MB need to swap out their drives through the battery compartment, but not a professional user? Steve - I'm not asking for a lot here.

Until I see these features or at least two of the three, I don't see a compelling reason to upgrade just yet.

Gene Huller
http://genehuller.com

[Zadillo]

I'll probably be waiting awhile, but I won't be purchasing a MBP until it has the Core 2 Quadro, built-in bootable flash memory for quicker booting times, and a hard drive that can be easily swapped out like the MB line currently has. It makes more sense to me to have a Professional line of notebooks with a hard drive that can be replaced easily than having consumer notebooks with this feature. After a user returns with my company's shared notebook, I could simply swap out the HD with a cleanly imaged HD to give to the next user. Why would the average home user or a non-tech college student with a MB need to swap out their drives through the battery compartment, but not a professional user? Steve - I'm not asking for a lot here.

Until I see these features or at least two of the three, I don't see a compelling reason to upgrade just yet.

Gene Huller
http://genehuller.com

Have they announced a mobile version of the Core 2 Quadro? I had thought that was only a desktop chip.

[gakh]

Have they announced a mobile version of the Core 2 Quadro? I had thought that was only a desktop chip.

Not that I've read, but I don't see why there wouldn't be a notebook equivalent... some day.

[yellow]

eGads I hope so!

I have a "new" MBP supposedly being ordered for me by work.. let's hope the bureaucracy works IN my favor for once! :)

[viccles]

I'll believe it when I see it. I can't believe how long its been I've had my MBP 3 months and rumours about merom were before that :eek:

[ju5tin81]

MacBook rumoured upgrade forum number 15...

Well... I'm a Brit, but live in the states...

For example, what is with the tiny UK return key? And why don't they put the names of the modifier keys on the keyboard? (apart form the Apple/Command key). The symbols are just not intuitive to me.

I'm sorry, I realise this is hugely off topic, but does anyone have a pic of the MacBook US keyboard layout? This post has me intrigued...

I'm in the same boat as a lot of people in here... I have (finally after 4 years) saved enough to buy a new machine with a decent high(ish) screen res. I have a project where I desparately need a new laptop. I'm just waiting to buy a machine that doesn't need substantial upgrades to have enough storage space to (at least!) better an iPod...

My *cough *cough iBook G3 600 is going to the in laws as soon as this upgrade happens...

Bring it on Apple! :D

[ju5tin81]

How exactly is Apple making a big deal out of small updates? The recent processor updates Apple has done (Core Duo to Core 2 Duo on the iMac and the speedbumped Core Duos on the MBP earlier this year) were quiet launches, with no announcements or hoopla at all really. The only real hoopla with the iMac was about the 24" screen, but it was certainly subdued. Hell, Apple made a bigger deal out of the Apple Hi-Fi.

The only people making a big deal out of it are ourselves.

Lets not also forget that the MacBook just appeared one day! A 'whole' Tuesday before the rumour sites thought it would. :rolleyes:

(With minimal fanfare)

[Cybergypsy]

Just sold my macbook, and have a ughhhhh PC to get me buy, (son works at office depot 400.00 HP DV1000) but had the thing....how do pC people do it....money in the bank and the wait begins.....

[CPTMONK]

I don't know if this update is imminent. apple.com store still shows macbooks and mbp as shipping within 24 hours....

when the imac was updated the apple store said 24hrs the day before so it doesnt mean much

[AidenShaw]

Not if you open it, load some stuff onto it and take it through customs in your carry-on. Get rid of the box and nobody can say that you didn't buy it in the UK and are just coming home.
unless they look at the power brick and the keyboard ;)

[da5id]

I don't know if this update is imminent. apple.com store still shows macbooks and mbp as shipping within 24 hours....

Unless the new MBPs are shipping tomorrow..:rolleyes:

[DanChosich]

Unless the new MBPs are shipping tomorrow..:rolleyes:

I know you will see that I've never posted before, so anything I say will probably be taken with a grain of salt. I don't blame you for not believing me, every Tuesday I am let down with all of you. If I am lying you can ban me from this forum, for whatever it's worth, I promise what I'm telling you is the truth. I see you guys are as antsy as I am about this update.

I know a person that works at an Apple Store as an inventory control specialist - I asked him back in July to tell me before hand if he knew when the Merom MacBook Pro was coming out. Today I got a text message from him saying, "(dan's) laptop might be coming out tomorrow." However, he thinks it's only a 15''.

Something is definitely planned to come out tomorrow. I know it's not concrete, but it gives me hope. I figured I would share.

I'm hoping he is wrong about the 15'' thing, I wanted a 17''. Either way, I'll take what I can get. I've been waitng too long.

[stevehp]

I know you will see that I've never posted before, so anything I say will probably be taken with a grain of salt. I don't blame you for not believing me, every Tuesday I am let down with all of you. If I am lying you can ban me from this forum, for whatever it's worth, I promise what I'm telling you is the truth. I see you guys are as antsy as I am about this update.

I know a person that works at an Apple Store as an inventory control specialist - I asked him back in July to tell me before hand if he knew when the Merom MacBook Pro was coming out. Today I got a text message from him saying, "(dan's) laptop might be coming out tomorrow." However, he thinks it's only a 15''.

Something is definitely planned to come out tomorrow. I know it's not concrete, but it gives me hope. I figured I would share.

I'm hoping he is wrong about the 15'' thing, I wanted a 17''. Either way, I'll take what I can get. I've been waitng too long.


whoa...

hope that's true, but I also hope the 17 will be updated at the same time.

[suwandy]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

MacGadget.de (German) (http://www.macgadget.de/) reports that MacBook Pro upgrades could take place as early as this week. Expected updates include Core 2 Duo upgrades as has long been expected as well as larger drives, FW800, and upgraded DVD drives.

Meanwhile, product checks (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2163) indicate that several European hardware distributers "ran dry" of MacBook and MacBook Pro inventory several weeks ago.

Rumors of MacBook Pro upgrades have been ongoing for weeks. The last MacRumors.com reported rumor from MacGadget.de comes from an iBook update prediction (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/10/20041015154040.shtml) in 2004. That rumor turned out to be true (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/10/20041019083450.shtml).

and the rumor for this one will turn out to be true as well, and I'll be free from this waiting room. :)

[YS2003]

If this update is for 15", it does make sense. I think 15" was the first intel Mac, followed by 17" and MB.

[stevehp]

If this update is for 15", it does make sense. I think 15" was the first intel Mac, followed by 17" and MB.

ya but unless there is a stock issue of C2D's, it makes no sense to only update the 15 inch. All the iMac's were updated at the same time regardless of their original release date.

[deputy_doofy]

Definitely gonna get the 15" MBP. C'mon, C2D. Come to Doofy. :D

[millerrh]

I sure hope DanCosich's post is true! I just had my 12" Powerbook stolen from me last week and my insurance company is paying for an equal replacement or if one isn't available, the next thing up. Looks like a 15" MBP is the next thing up! Going from a 1.33GHz G4 to a C2D MBP is just a plain silly upgrade. I'm out $1000 from a deductible, but that's quite the upgrade for $1000. I'd say it was worth the theft except the fact that my car got busted up as well.

*crosses fingers*

[DanChosich]

I sure hope DanCosich's post is true! I just had my 12" Powerbook stolen from me last week and my insurance company is paying for an equal replacement or if one isn't available, the next thing up. Looks like a 15" MBP is the next thing up! Going from a 1.33GHz G4 to a C2D MBP is just a plain silly upgrade. I'm out $1000 from a deductible, but that's quite the upgrade for $1000. I'd say it was worth the theft except the fact that my car got busted up as well.

*crosses fingers*

It's true, as far I know. I told you guys verbatim what I was told. If he is lying I will be just as disappointed as you. I don't know why he would lie to me, I used to work with him, and he's best friends with the store director. So, we just have to wait and hope that tomorrow brings us joy.

[JackSYi]

Tuesday is rapidly approaching. However, for some of us, the time and space continum is slightly different than the rest. Tuesday will come and some of us will sit in front of our computers waiting in anticipation for that Apple store to go down and "be right back". We will feel like little children waiting in line for Disneyland, waiting to cross that magical gate.

What?!

:)

Just don't stay up all night waiting. (I want to be the first person to order the damned thing).

[walleyealx]

any chance you think they are gonna put the update the MB the same time they do the MBP's?

[AutumnSkyline]

any chance you think they are gonna put the update the MB the same time they do the MBP's?

*sigh* I hope they do, if they do, I think that they wont redesign. I've decided to get a white macbook with a gig of memory and buy a desk hammer hard drive from staples.... the macbooks look soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo nice *sigh* But they could bump the specs and lower the price:D :D

[imperium]

I much prefer the US style (a first for me! :D), and will probably hope to buy a new computer before I leave for this specific reason. For example, what is with the tiny UK return key?

I am so with you. It's almost the main reason why I want my next Apple (MMBP, obviously) to come from the US. The narrow vertical return key is a PoS. The $$$ saving over £££ is almost secondary! ;)

[aussie_geek]

all i can say about this thread is MEH... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

it seems that every week there is a new fu*#ing thread about impending macbook pro updates. if you want one now - just go buy it. my macbook pro rips the socks of my g5. :eek:

if you are waiting for something special going by figures on the core2duo, it will be ripping the socks of the current macbook pro by 10 % . :rolleyes:

we are only talking seconds here - maybe your boot time will be 5 sec quicker than a current model. maybe you will be able to encode a movie 30 seconds quicker (mind you this type of operation takes minutes to complete) . are you going to specially go out and check that yours boots better than a current model one?? if you are, then well... umm - see a doctor first :p

are you really going to put the processors to the test and run them at full utilization for long periods of time to prove all these things? if you do, your macbook pro will self combust through the table, or even worse - your lap!!:eek:

finally, all of these new components that everyone is waiting for generate more heat. more ram, new video cards, and chips will generate more heat. macbook pro's are hot enough.... to accommodate all of these new hotter components, a new cooling system would need to be developed. these things take time.

i reakon there will be a minor speed bump (.3 of a Ghz mind you... :rolleyes: ) next week and a total revision at macworld in january - 90 days from now...

flame me if you wish but just sit back and think about real life scenario's where a core 2 duo will REALLY be of massive benefit to you.... santa rosa is the platform you should wait for.


aussie_geek

[Zic]

I know you will see that I've never posted before, so anything I say will probably be taken with a grain of salt. I don't blame you for not believing me, every Tuesday I am let down with all of you. If I am lying you can ban me from this forum, for whatever it's worth, I promise what I'm telling you is the truth. I see you guys are as antsy as I am about this update.

I know a person that works at an Apple Store as an inventory control specialist - I asked him back in July to tell me before hand if he knew when the Merom MacBook Pro was coming out. Today I got a text message from him saying, "(dan's) laptop might be coming out tomorrow." However, he thinks it's only a 15''.

Something is definitely planned to come out tomorrow. I know it's not concrete, but it gives me hope. I figured I would share.

I'm hoping he is wrong about the 15'' thing, I wanted a 17''. Either way, I'll take what I can get. I've been waitng too long.

Could he (your contact in the AS) have been anymore vague? Could it not simply be that he frequents the same websites we all do and noticed the increased MMBP chatter, or that his colleagues or perhaps the customers have brought the subject up. It doesn't take an "inventory control specialist" working in an Apple store to make that sort of prediction, these forums alone are proof of that.

I'm not saying you're making it all up, it's just I would have thought someone in a position like that would be able to provide some substance to backup such claims.

I, like the majority (and despite my scepticism), hope he's right though.

[DanChosich]

Could he (your contact in the AS) have been anymore vague? Could it not simply be that he frequents the same websites we all do and noticed the increased MMBP chatter, or that his colleagues or perhaps the customers have brought the subject up. It doesn't take an "inventory control specialist" working in an Apple store to make that sort of prediction, these forums alone are proof of that.

I'm not saying you're making it all up, it's just I would have thought someone in a position like that would be able to provide some substance to backup such claims.

I, like the majority, hope he's right though.

I completely agree. I think it's lame how vague it is. I would love to say "full laptop refresh tomoroow." But I don't know what is happening, all I know is what I told you. I thought it was worth sharing that he said something is definitely happening tomorrow. He never went out of his way to do that before, I wish it was more specific. :-/ Sorry.

[EagerDragon]

At this rate the PowerBook G5 will be here before the Merom.

[iMikeT]

Wasn't this expected a couple months ago?

[mi5moav]

Along with the macbook and MB pro getting updates, for $14.95 you can download an ipod nano or ipod patch/software that lets you listen to FM radio without having to purchase the radio remote. Interface is the same as with the remote.

[danvdr]

Along with the macbook and MB pro getting updates, for $14.95 you can download an ipod nano or ipod patch/software that lets you listen to FM radio without having to purchase the radio remote. Interface is the same as with the remote.

Cool beans. Where can you get this download?

[Kreamy]

all i can say about this thread is MEH... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

it seems that every week there is a new fu*#ing thread about impending macbook pro updates. if you want one now - just go buy it. my macbook pro rips the socks of my g5. :eek:

if you are waiting for something special going by figures on the core2duo, it will be ripping the socks of the current macbook pro by 10 % . :rolleyes:

we are only talking seconds here - maybe your boot time will be 5 sec quicker than a current model. maybe you will be able to encode a movie 30 seconds quicker (mind you this type of operation takes minutes to complete) . are you going to specially go out and check that yours boots better than a current model one?? if you are, then well... umm - see a doctor first :p

are you really going to put the processors to the test and run them at full utilization for long periods of time to prove all these things? if you do, your macbook pro will self combust through the table, or even worse - your lap!!:eek:

finally, all of these new components that everyone is waiting for generate more heat. more ram, new video cards, and chips will generate more heat. macbook pro's are hot enough.... to accommodate all of these new hotter components, a new cooling system would need to be developed. these things take time.

i reakon there will be a minor speed bump (.3 of a Ghz mind you... :rolleyes: ) next week and a total revision at macworld in january - 90 days from now...

flame me if you wish but just sit back and think about real life scenario's where a core 2 duo will REALLY be of massive benefit to you.... santa rosa is the platform you should wait for.


aussie_geek

I love reading the one off posts from a bitter MBP owner who's precious is on the verge of discontinue...ment...

[tekmoe]

I love reading the one off posts from a bitter MBP owner who's precious is on the verge of discontinue...ment...

me too. i can easily picture them sitting behind the screen biting their nails while hoping new mbp's are not released. then they have the incredible urge to post totally useless comments because they can't bare the fact that their mbp is about to be outdated.

haha! i love it!

[mdelaney123]

whoa...

hope that's true, but I also hope the 17 will be updated at the same time.

I had a 17" MacBook Pro and I ended up selling it... I use it as a passenger in a car every day and the lid is so big, combined with the hing being loose (compared to a 15") that every bump in the road, the lid would close!!!

So... I too and hoping for an updated 15" tomorrow... PLEASE let there be a new GPU !!!

[jashic]

me too. i can easily picture them sitting behind the screen biting their nails while hoping new mbp's are not released. then they have the incredible urge to post totally useless comments because they can't bare the fact that their mbp is about to be outdated.

haha! i love it!


errr...how about the fact that I've been enjoying my MBP for months now while you've been waiting and replying on this board for those same months on whatever ancient machine you currently own? I dunno about you, but I've enjoyed these months of screaming performance while on the road. But hopefully for you, the months of checking this website on a daily basis wishing you had a MBP pays off this week.

[bdj21ya]

Along with the macbook and MB pro getting updates, for $14.95 you can download an ipod nano or ipod patch/software that lets you listen to FM radio without having to purchase the radio remote. Interface is the same as with the remote.

Haha! I'm sure no hardware (e.g. FM Tuner) is neccessary. Yeah Right!

[Kreamy]

errr...how about the fact that I've been enjoying my MBP for months now while you've been waiting and replying on this board for those same months on whatever ancient machine you currently own? I dunno about you, but I've enjoyed these months of screaming performance while on the road. But hopefully for you, the months of checking this website on a daily basis wishing you had a MBP pays off this week.

If there wasn't some truth to his comment, you wouldn't even gander at this thread.

Resistance is futile.

[weiss]

I actually decided "the hell with it, i'm not going to wait any longer" and went to closest retail store to get myself a nice looking black macbook. It was sold out. Actually, I can't find it anywhere, so it's not much of a choice anymore (at least until they get more units).

So, I'm stuck in the waiting room again. Let's all hold hands and believe, brothers! The C2D is coming! Hallelujah!

[aussie_geek]

me too. i can easily picture them sitting behind the screen biting their nails while hoping new mbp's are not released. then they have the incredible urge to post totally useless comments because they can't bare the fact that their mbp is about to be outdated.

haha! i love it!

hardly. :rolleyes:

i'm trying to put all of this core 2 duo hype into perspective. there have been rumors about new pro's for the last 2 months. at this rate, no one will ever purchase a new mac notebook.

prove to me how a core 2 duo chip will make my EVERYDAY computing that more productive compared to a core duo. :D

I stand by my point that you will be only shaving seconds of waiting for your stuff to run. a real wank... :rolleyes:

if you are gonna wait - macworld 07 will be the big update.

[Carguy172]

I hope this happens I have been waiting for a long time

[macman2790]

if you are gonna wait - macworld 07 will be the big update.
i hope you're right. this is what i'm waiting for. What do you think's in store for mwsf?

[MacinDoc]

sorry to quote myself, but i just realized that the UK Mac Expo is this week, and that would be a good venue for releasing new MBPs

so my prediction is Oct 26 at the UK MacExpo.

cheers
Apple is attending, but no keynote, so I'll put my money on tomorrow, Tuesday Oct. 24 for the MBPs, with the Macbooks 4 weeks later (Nov. 21), still in time for Black Friday, which will be Nov. 24. This will allow Apple to take advantage of pent-up demand for new machines by selling the higher-priced MPBs before the new MacBooks are introduced, and still have the consumer-oriented machines ready for the biggest consumer retail day of the year.

Specs? Core2 Duo 2.16 GHz base 15" model with GeForce Go 7300 and 100 GB HD, upgraded 2.33 GHz 15" with GeForce Go 7600 and 120 GB HD, and 17" with similar specs to the mid-range model except a 160 GB HD. All with 8X DL SuperDrive and (gasp!) 1 GB RAM (single DIMM), upgradeable to 3 GB. Prices should stay about the same.

As for MacBooks, I expect 1.83 and 2.0 GHz Core2 Duos, with (again!) 1 GB RAM (2 DIMMS), and HDs bumped to 80 GB for the white MacBooks and 100 GB for the BlackBook. Sorry, but Intel Integrated Graphics are in the Macbooks to stay, at least in the near future. Prices should again stay about the same.

[MacinDoc]

if you are gonna wait - macworld 07 will be the big update.
...or that may come when Santa Rosa is introduced, after which the chipset will be able to address more than 3.2 GB of physical RAM, and may have better support for 64 bit APIs...

[sachamun]

You do know that you'll be getting a US-formatted keyboard and AC adapter, yes?

What is precisely the difference in keyboard formatting?

[aussie_geek]

...or that may come when Santa Rosa is introduced, after which the chipset will be able to address more than 3.2 GB of physical RAM, and may have better support for 64 bit APIs...


BINGO - as i said in a previous post.

Santa rosa is the one to hang out for. core2duo merom is the equivalent of an "Apple Speed Bump next tuesday".

Nothing to cream over. Nothing to hold off for :rolleyes: :p


aussie_geek

[doctor pangloss]

I just got the new battery for my 12" PB.

I'm waiting for a 12" MBP.

Until then I'm happy saving my money.;)

Maybe I'l buy a GPS for my motorcycle or go fishing. Probably both!

[aussie_geek]

What do you think's in store for mwsf?

hmmm - lots of stuff (santa rosa MacBook Pros of course :p ).

there will be a dedicated thread for this discussion surfacing in a few weeks. best not start to comment in this thread as it will be way off topic within minutes. :D


aussie_geek

[PODshady]

I really hope that the MacBook Pro gets updated tomorrow becuase my 3 year old iBook G4 just died over the weekend and I have had my eye on a 17-inch MacBook Pro ever since they came out. I am still undecided though if I want to buy one (if they are updated tomorrow) or if I will just wait for Leopard to be released.

[PODshady]

I believe that there is a very good chance that the entire Intel line of Macs will get upgraded to 64-bit processors since Leopard has extended 64-bit support beyond the UNIX level

[MacinDoc]

hmmm - lots of stuff (santa rosa MacBook Pros of course :p ).

there will be a dedicated thread for this discussion surfacing in a few weeks. best not start to comment in this thread as it will be way off topic within minutes. :D


aussie_geek
So you think Santa Rosa will be out in time for MWSF? I thought the release date was to be in the 2nd quarter of 2007.

[shecky]

So you think Santa Rosa will be out in time for MWSF? I thought the release date was to be in the 2nd quarter of 2007.

correct. santa rosa will not even be released by intel until april 2007 at the earliest, and i would guess not actually in a buyable system until may/june.

[aussie_geek]

correct. santa rosa will not even be released by intel until april 2007 at the earliest, and i would guess not actually in a buyable system until may/june.


point taken - my bad. but knowing apple - they will announce the new pro and then say it will ship 5 months later...

aussie_geek

[KingYaba]

One of these days the MBP Merom rumor will be correct. :)

[MacinDoc]

AppleInsider (http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2165) is posting new part numbers, presumably for new 15" MBPs...
two new Apple manufacturer part numbers have also been making the rounds alongside reports of MacBook Pro updates within the next week and a half: MA609LL/A and MA610LL/A.

Apple's two existing 15-inch MacBook Pro retail configurations carry manufacturer part numbers MA600LL/A and MA601LL/A.

[mingspace]

yes on the 31 we shall have a trick and a treat... ...MACBOO
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/jonathaniliff/macboo2-1.jpg


Anyone have a hunch on the price the new macbooks and MBPs?

[paradillon]

I was helping a neighbor to order an iMac for his son tonight.
We logged into his apple account to look at the config on his previous order for his other son.
We got a notice saying the web and phone order system was down while being upgraded.
:eek:

[spyd4r]

I have been patiently waiting for the new macbook pro just as long as the rest of you, but i have had it, they are like 1.5 - 2 months behind their competitors now.. I am just about ready to drop the money and upgrade my PC desktop instead...they betttter hurrry! ;)

[moobookpro]

hardly.

i'm trying to put all of this core 2 duo hype into perspective. there have been rumors about new pro's for the last 2 months. at this rate, no one will ever purchase a new mac notebook.

prove to me how a core 2 duo chip will make my EVERYDAY computing that more productive compared to a core duo.

I stand by my point that you will be only shaving seconds of waiting for your stuff to run. a real wank...

if you are gonna wait - macworld 07 will be the big update.
aussie_geek

I'll grant you some slack on a lot of the points you've made, but I simply can't sit here and read your smug comments about people waiting for the C2D without pointing out at least one thing you are missing. Just exactly how do you expect your Core Duo MBP to support 64-bit instructions when Leopard comes out? Oh, that's right. It won't. You're severely misguided if you think that won't make a difference.

[Rocketman]

I like the Macboo even though the label introduces a bunch of trademark infringement issues :)

So when the Merom MBP is released "soon", some say tonight, some say a week from tonight (confirming my prediction of "weeks" after iMac releases), this will be the equivalent of the Powerbook G6. As we all know the IBM G5 chip never made it into a Powerbook, but it is quite clear the Yonah MBP was such a leap forward it clearly earned the Powerbook G5 moniker at least in an underground and subversive way.

This release is a major chip advance and while we have yet to see if the motherboard keeps up with it (I doubt it), one might claim this is the Powerbook G6!

That should kill bandwidth on this site by about 70%!

I cannot wait till I have my entire environment on a large pocket sized full-screen iPod like device and do most of my work via 802.11n and 4G wireless. I might suggest a slightly larger screen and battery as a BTO option.

Rocketman

[paradillon]

I cannot wait till I have my entire environment on a large pocket sized full-screen iPod like device and do most of my work via 802.11n and 4G wireless. I might suggest a slightly larger screen and battery as a BTO option.

Rocketman

Amen Brother! That's what I want too. Don't forget the built in isight.

[jmelrose]

Does anyone really think Apple would do a major hardware update without a press conference of any kind?

I just don't see this being a thing beyond a speed bump and upgraded hard drive. No price bump, no added features, no change in case. No change in display. MAYBE a faster DVD burner. That's it.

THe big show will be saved for, well, the big show. (MWSF)

[homieg340]

What TIME are the updates on Tuesdays usually made? EST? PST?

Also, can we be certain that the update is tomorrow? Wouldn't this be too soon for them to update? It seems they've given almost no time for the resellers-then again, does apple usually make suprise announcements, completely out of the blue like this?

Someone with more experience please clarify.

[maverick808]

Does anyone really think Apple would do a major hardware update without a press conference of any kind?

Depends what you mean by major hardware update.

The iMac was updated without a press conference of any kind. That update included C2D, brand new larger screen model, FW800, much better video cards (at least as an option) and better speakers. I'd call the release of an entirely new model (the 24"), and processor and other updates across the line, a major hardware update. And that happened with no conference of any kind.

The MacBook (non pro) was released without any event or conference. That update included a completely new enclosure, new processor architecture (and obviously new CPU), increased screen resolution, brightness... well, it was a whole new machine. And again... no press conference.

I'd call that a major hardware update. I guess you must have a different definition of major hardware update... although I can't think what could be more major than the silent MacBook release, which was a completely new machine.

[jmelrose]

The MacBook (non pro) was released without any event or conference. That update included a completely new enclosure, new processor architecture (and obviously new CPU), increased screen resolution, brightness... well, it was a whole new machine. And again... no press conference.

I stand corrected. Macbook does definitely qualify. And I have renewed hope that this update may be a bit more substantial!

[YS2003]

I'll grant you some slack on a lot of the points you've made, but I simply can't sit here and read your smug comments about people waiting for the C2D without pointing out at least one thing you are missing. Just exactly how do you expect your Core Duo MBP to support 64-bit instructions when Leopard comes out? Oh, that's right. It won't. You're severely misguided if you think that won't make a difference.
Can someone confirm C2D is what is needed for 64-bit instructions? I thought it has be the combination of C2D and chipset to make 64-bit instructions happen. I heard the current platform for CoreDuo was not made for 64-bit.

[homieg340]

What TIME are the updates on Tuesdays usually made? EST? PST?

Also, can we be certain that the update is tomorrow? Wouldn't this be too soon for them to update? It seems they've given almost no time for the resellers-then again, does apple usually make suprise announcements, completely out of the blue like this?

Someone with more experience please clarify.

[mightymike107]

What TIME are the updates on Tuesdays usually made? EST? PST?

Also, can we be certain that the update is tomorrow? Wouldn't this be too soon for them to update? It seems they've given almost no time for the resellers-then again, does apple usually make suprise announcements, completely out of the blue like this?

Someone with more experience please clarify.

no later than 10pm EST if it's a silent update. obviously later if it's at some kind of conerence or whatever.

[Multimedia]

FWI Dell Just Lowered The List Of All Their Monitors • 30" $1279 24" $679 Right Now (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productlisting.aspx?c=us&category_id=6198&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs). We paid $1349 last week in a sale and now it's been trumped. New 30" list is only $1599 and 24" list is $799.

2007FP 20" 1600x1200 is now only $359.20 (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-4687). This is amazing.

[aussie_geek]

I'll grant you some slack on a lot of the points you've made, but I simply can't sit here and read your smug comments about people waiting for the C2D without pointing out at least one thing you are missing. Just exactly how do you expect your Core Duo MBP to support 64-bit instructions when Leopard comes out? Oh, that's right. It won't. You're severely misguided if you think that won't make a difference.


yes, my macbook pro will not support 64 bit instructions. i was fully aware of that when i bought it.

leopard is confirmed to be 64 bit all the way through -ie the user interface is as well. i do agree that 64 bit GUI applications will surface but you can't say that all 32 bit machines will be massively disadvantaged and become redundant.

what you have implied is that the 64 bit thing will be so massive and make so much of a difference to your computing experience that a 64 bit notebook computer is essential.


btw - the g5 has been out for years. umm wait. it's 64 bit too :rolleyes: where are the MAINSTREAM apps that utilise the 64 bit facility of tiger??

aussie_geek

[YS2003]

FWI Dell Just Lowered The List Of All Their Monitors •*30" $1279 24" $679 Right Now (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productlisting.aspx?c=us&category_id=6198&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs). We paid $1349 last week in a sale and now it's been trumped. New 30" list is only $1599 and 24" list is $799.

2007FP 20" 1600x1200 is now only $359.20 (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-4687). This is amazing.
A quick question. Does Dell's 30" monitor have the AC adaptor which covers 100 V to 240 V and 50 Hz - 60 Hz? The spec on 24" showed it does. But, I was not able see that spec on 30".

[AppliedVisual]

Resistance is futile.

That's right.... I bought a MBP nearly a month ago and while I'm very happy with it, I'm still here.... :o

[Rocketman]

What TIME are the updates on Tuesdays usually made? EST? PST?



8-10am Pacific. If it hasn't happened by noon, forget it.

Steve is no longer married to Tuesday, however.

64 bit has to do with memory addressing, not GUI speed. Someone posted they felt it unlikely Santa Rosa (Intel 64 bit memory support chips) would be released early. But doesn't Intel have a 64 bit memory addressing system similar to the ?965? now?

If you don't need 3+ GB of portable memory NOW, you might as well wait till June 07 or buy whatever is available now and be really happy with it.

Rocketman

[Macula]

There is no way I am buying a MBP without NAND.

[AppliedVisual]

There is no way I am buying a MBP without NAND.

Weird... While the NAND flash/cache would be nifty, it's hardly a feature I would consider to be vital. FW800 and DL DVD writer on the 15" MBP are much more worthy causes. ...I doubt we'll get those features either. :( You won't see NAND with this update - probably not until spring/summer '07.

[AidenShaw]

Can someone confirm C2D is what is needed for 64-bit instructions? I thought it has be the combination of C2D and chipset to make 64-bit instructions happen. I heard the current platform for CoreDuo was not made for 64-bit.
The current Napa64 platform (that is, Napa with Merom as the CPU) does support 64-bit instructions. It can't address more than 4 GiB of physical memory, but it can run the faster 64-bit instructions.

Here's the download page for the x64 drivers for Dell's Latitude D620 with Core 2 Duo:

http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/devices.aspx?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz&SystemID=LATITUDE%20D620&os=WXPX&osl=EN#

[YS2003]

I hope Apple will get this done this week. I see "when C2D lappy come out" threads repeatedly (mostly by new members). With the update, we will change that line of thread into the buyer's remorse threads from the people who bought CoreDuo MBP. That would be good for a change.

[kalun]

Meanwhile, product checks (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2163) indicate that several European hardware distributers "ran dry" of MacBook and MacBook Pro inventory several weeks ago.

Well, in Japan, there are enough Macbook Pro so that it is shipped within 24 hours. so...ya....

[AppliedVisual]

64 bit has to do with memory addressing, not GUI speed. Someone posted they felt it unlikely Santa Rosa (Intel 64 bit memory support chips) would be released early. But doesn't Intel have a 64 bit memory addressing system similar to the ?965? now?

64bit instructions can provide a speed boost for certain computationally-intense applications that are optimized for it. Think scientific / visualization type apps where high precision values are needed and when 64bit values are being used, suddenly on a 64bit platform with 64bit registers, the time for a multiplication operation can effectively be cut in half. That's very simplistic, but not all that far off. Over in PC Land, some 3D rendering softwares have 64bit to 128bit (Lightwave is 96bit) operation pipelines in place for their precision values. Their 64bit optimized versions are showing 15 to 35 % speed ups depending on the various task vs. the 32bit version of the software doing the same thing on a 32bit OS, so there is a boost...

While you won't see the speed advantage in your Tiger or Leopard GUI, you'll notice it if you run any calculation-intense software that's optimized for the 64bit platform. So there's a bit more there than just being able to address more memory....

If you don't need 3+ GB of portable memory NOW, you might as well wait till June 07 or buy whatever is available now and be really happy with it.

I'm starting to feel like a broken record with this one... If you do need more than 3GB of RAM now, then you're out of luck. Intel is not shipping any mobile chipsets capable of addressing anything larger than a 32bit address window (4GB). Factoring in all the memory addresses used by system overhead, BIOS, video memory, etc..., you come up with just a fuzz over 3GB that you can actually address and use, even if you install a full 4GB. This won't change until they ship Crestline -- the updated mobile chipset (i965). The Desktop i965 series has already been shipping for a while now and that works with the desktop Core 2 Duo CPUs (Conroe).

[moobookpro]

yes, my macbook pro will not support 64 bit instructions. i was fully aware of that when i bought it.

leopard is confirmed to be 64 bit all the way through -ie the user interface is as well. i do agree that 64 bit GUI applications will surface but you can't say that all 32 bit machines will be massively disadvantaged and become redundant.

what you have implied is that the 64 bit thing will be so massive and make so much of a difference to your computing experience that a 64 bit notebook computer is essential.


btw - the g5 has been out for years. umm wait. it's 64 bit too :rolleyes: where are the MAINSTREAM apps that utilise the 64 bit facility of tiger??

aussie_geek

Considering we are talking about a Pro machine I hope you are not refering to "consumer" when you say "mainstream". If so, then get a clue. Fact of the matter is, 64-bit will improve the experience across the board but specifically it will aid the intended users of this machine most: pros. There is a Pro there for a reason. But I'll bite: I'm pretty sure Final Cut Pro, Aperture, Logic and Photoshop (I could go on, but to help you save face I'll stop here) are all mainstream pro apps and will all definitely benefit from having an OS built to do more than simply accomodate 64-bit, but actually utilize it properly. Not to further strike you down but the only place that 64-bit instructions are possible (at least on the Intel side) is in Unix terminal apps in Tiger at the moment. That would seem to answer your question a bit. I'm pretty sure the people that this machine is targeted towards will appreciate the benefits of 64-bit processing more than I could summarize (and way more than you could refute).

To answer someone else's question, the current Core 2 Duo processor and accompanying chipset supports EM64T enabling 64-bit processing.

[danvdr]

FWI Dell Just Lowered The List Of All Their Monitors • 30" $1279 24" $679 Right Now (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productlisting.aspx?c=us&category_id=6198&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs). We paid $1349 last week in a sale and now it's been trumped. New 30" list is only $1599 and 24" list is $799.

2007FP 20" 1600x1200 is now only $359.20 (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-4687). This is amazing.

And the E207WFP 20" monitor (which seems to be comparable to the 2007FP minus a few bells and whistles (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productcompare.aspx?c=us&category_id=6198&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&p=320-4688~320-5123~)) is only $289.

[Macula]

Why NAND?

Because I am just obsessed with system responsiveness. I can tolerate things like slow peripheral throughput or a less than stellar GPU, but hiccups and delays are such a turnoff! I would be relieved to see applications load 30-50% faster, with all their components instantly fetched, and with lightning fast task-switching.

Besides, NAND-supported computers is a paradigmatic shift of sorts and, as such, a very exciting prospect.

I just hope NAND is included in the first generation of Santa-Rosa iMacs and laptops!

[Choppaface]

I've got a dual 2.33ghz Core 2 Duo in my mac mini and its FASTTTTT the new mbps will be nice BUY BUY BUY

[Multimedia]

And the E207WFP 20" monitor (which seems to be comparable to the 2007FP minus a few bells and whistles (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productcompare.aspx?c=us&category_id=6198&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&p=320-4688~320-5123~)) is only $289.No the E207WFP 20 is 1650x1050.

I advocate the 2007FP 20 1600x1200 for only $359.20 (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-4687). That extra 150 verticle pixels is very helpful.

[Multimedia]

I've got a dual 2.33ghz Core 2 Duo in my mac mini and its FASTTTTT the new mbps will be nice BUY BUY BUYDid you photograph your installation process for us to learn by? How much did you pay for the 2.33GHz Merom?

[dkoralek]

The current Napa64 platform (that is, Napa with Merom as the CPU) does support 64-bit instructions. It can't address more than 4 GiB of physical memory, but it can run the faster 64-bit instructions.

Here's the download page for the x64 drivers for Dell's Latitude D620 with Core 2 Duo:

http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/devices.aspx?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz&SystemID=LATITUDE%20D620&os=WXPX&osl=EN#

Interestingly, though, the iMac (with c2d) appartently does not include the Napa64 platform (or rather the chipset that belongs in Napa64). Anyone know if it can deal with 64-bit isntructions?

cheers.

[carlos700]

Intel Core 2 Duo T7600 Processor at NewEgg.com can be had for a little bit over $650.

[ccroo]

That's right.... I bought a MBP nearly a month ago and while I'm very happy with it, I'm still here.... :o
Does your Macbook Pro have the "uneven backlight illumination" problem?

It's most apparent on 17" models. A light grey desktop shows brightness concentrated in the center and darkening in the corners -- like vignetting. Generally uneven constrast gives the screen a 3D quality, a sense of depth -- like you could put your hand inside.

I went to the Apple Store tonight and looked at a bunch of MBP's -- all had this characteristic. I put light grey desktops on some Macbooks and they look perfect - even illumination across the screen, like my old PB G4 17".

Apple Care sort of suggested this is what Macbook Pro display's look like. He didn't sound all too sure a replacement or repair would look much different to my "trained eye."

Are all Macbook Pro's like this?

[iBorg20181]

Apple needs to get away from making such a big deal our of small updates (processor change) as Intel will have such things changing more often than motorola or ibm ever did. apple should reserve such announcements and hoopla for major revisions or complete overhauls. based on recent benchmarks there is little performance improvement in these new chips save for the speed bump.

Which is what Apple did with the "silent update" for the iMacs from CD to C2D. Likely what will happen (this coming morning??) with the MBP update to C2D.

Probably save the keynote announcements for truely new products and major upgrades.

Sure beats the "bad old days" of Moto and IBM processors, every 6-18 months.......

iBorg

[paeza]

Could anyone tell me what is "Santa Rosa " ?

[Starchitect]

Here it is! 8 hours early!

60499

[iBorg20181]

Awesome, this means there will be further Macbook and Macbook Pro updates on April 24th (a Tuesday). I'm guessing that will be too early for Santa Rosa w/ Robsin caching technology. But, I bet there will be speed increases, graphics and hd increases.

I'd love to see a new design, but I'll be happy with:
1. C2D 2.33GHz
2. bigger HD, with easy-swap HD bay
3. heat problems, "mooing," and random-shutdowns solved

Anything else will be icing on the cake!

:)

iBorg

[Zadillo]

Here it is! 8 hours early!

60499

7200rpm 160GB drive? Cute...:)

[Starchitect]

7200rpm 160GB drive? Cute...:)


Just a little wishfull thinking.

[nioh]

Here it is! 8 hours early!

60499


you forgot the new and improved hd-screen :D

[xPismo]

FW800 and/or eSATA, HD screen, C2D (nice shortening btw) and $200.00 less price point. Please Apple. Make it so.

[davester]

Since when have Apple used the Optima font family for their copy? :rolleyes:

Edit: lol ok, thought you were serious about this for a moment.

[xPismo]

At this rate the PowerBook G5 will be here before the Merom.

Evil. Just plain evil. ;) :D

[iBorg20181]

all i can say about this thread is MEH... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

it seems that every week there is a new fu*#ing thread about impending macbook pro updates. if you want one now - just go buy it. my macbook pro rips the socks of my g5. :eek:

if you are waiting for something special going by figures on the core2duo, it will be ripping the socks of the current macbook pro by 10 % . :rolleyes:

we are only talking seconds here - maybe your boot time will be 5 sec quicker than a current model. maybe you will be able to encode a movie 30 seconds quicker (mind you this type of operation takes minutes to complete) . are you going to specially go out and check that yours boots better than a current model one?? if you are, then well... umm - see a doctor first :p

are you really going to put the processors to the test and run them at full utilization for long periods of time to prove all these things? if you do, your macbook pro will self combust through the table, or even worse - your lap!!:eek:

finally, all of these new components that everyone is waiting for generate more heat. more ram, new video cards, and chips will generate more heat. macbook pro's are hot enough.... to accommodate all of these new hotter components, a new cooling system would need to be developed. these things take time.

i reakon there will be a minor speed bump (.3 of a Ghz mind you... :rolleyes: ) next week and a total revision at macworld in january - 90 days from now...

flame me if you wish but just sit back and think about real life scenario's where a core 2 duo will REALLY be of massive benefit to you.... santa rosa is the platform you should wait for.


aussie_geek

aussie_geek: since this upgrade is so trivial and meaningless to you ..... why do you keep reading and posting in this thread? LOL!

I've been waiting for this upgrade since Core Duo debuted in January, and I'll be up, bright and early, to order a C2D MBP in the morning! wOOt!

:D

iBorg

[iBorg20181]

if you are gonna wait - macworld 07 will be the big update.

Nope - Santa Rosa won't arrive until March or April, and that's when the next major upgrade will be made.

;)

iBorg

[AppliedVisual]

Could anyone tell me what is "Santa Rosa " ?

Uh, sure... Click Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrino#Santa_Rosa_platform).

[Random Passerby]

I should be posting to the 'update before the holiday season' string to help it get to 4000 posts - but I was wondering at what time of day would an update happen, were it to happen?

[iBorg20181]

BINGO - as i said in a previous post.

Santa rosa is the one to hang out for. core2duo merom is the equivalent of an "Apple Speed Bump next tuesday".

Nothing to cream over. Nothing to hold off for :rolleyes: :p


aussie_geek

Me thinks thou doest protest too much! Don't worry, your Yonah MBP will still be OK!

Merom is an "evolutionary," not "revolutionary" upgrade for MBPs. Santa Rosa will also be "evolutionary." A little faster FSB, NAND technology, 802.11N ... all nice items, but not fantastic. A nice upgrade, but unless accompanied by a major case design, also "nothing to cream over" for most buyers.

:p

iBorg

[AppliedVisual]

Nope - Santa Rosa won't arrive until March or April, and that's when the next major upgrade will be made.

Which is all the more reason to be fairly sure a C2D update is imminent. And we probably shouldn't expect too much from this update...

I'm expecting Apple to have addressed cooling issues through better heatsinks combined with better fan control software, possibly better fans too. The 160GB HD should be added as a CTO option as it's available for the Mini, but don't expect any change to the overall design or a new HD bay. Possibly faster DVD writers, but don't expect DL support for the 15" MBP or MB. Just about everything else that people keep wishing for is probably out of the question until a major overhaul takes place.

[iBorg20181]

The current Napa64 platform (that is, Napa with Merom as the CPU) does support 64-bit instructions. It can't address more than 4 GiB of physical memory, but it can run the faster 64-bit instructions.

And that's exactly what I've been waiting for! I don't care about using more than 4GB ram (or 3.2GB as Applied Visual has pointed out), but the 64-bit capability of Merom MBPs will be, I believe, important within the next couple of years that I'll be using this new lappie!

:D

iBorg

[OdduWon]

Here it is! 8 hours early!

60499
this is OG
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/jonathaniliff/macbookproOG.jpg

[AppliedVisual]

I should be posting to the 'update before the holiday season' string to help it get to 4000 posts - but I was wondering at what time of day would an update happen, were it to happen?

Anywhere from 7AM to 4PM Pacific Time... Most silent updates tend to go live between 7 and 9 AM. But I have to say that I'm only mildly hopeful for tomorrow -- Wednesday makes a lot more sense.

[lpmusix]

Wednesday makes a lot more sense.
Why would Wenesday make more sense?

[iBorg20181]

Which is all the more reason to be fairly sure a C2D update is imminent. And we probably shouldn't expect too much from this update...

I'm expecting Apple to have addressed cooling issues through better heatsinks combined with better fan control software, possibly better fans too. The 160GB HD should be added as a CTO option as it's available for the Mini, but don't expect any change to the overall design or a new HD bay. Possibly faster DVD writers, but don't expect DL support for the 15" MBP or MB. Just about everything else that people keep wishing for is probably out of the question until a major overhaul takes place.

Sure hope you're wrong about the MBP HD bay, which is, IMHO, a major design flaw in current MBP design! :eek:

I'm not expecting a major redesign, but if they're changing things to address the current heat problem, hopefully they'll throw in a few extras! Bigger HD BTO options should be a given (why the hell has Apple held out for this long! 120GB max in a BTO is inexcusable!), and hopefully they'll have a faster superdrive (8x), even if DL DVD-burning can't be squeezed in.

Well, we'll hopefully see in a little over 7 hours!

:D

iBorg

[M. Malone]

this is OG stiff one
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/jonathaniliff/macbookproOG.jpg

it appears you forgot about that light that dims and brightens when the machine sleeps :D

[OdduWon]

it appears you forgot about that light that dims and brightens when the machine sleeps :D
the blue-ray drive will provide that function :p

[AppliedVisual]

Why would Wenesday make more sense?

Because all the current Apple rebates and promotions in the USA (and I believe a few other places) are good only on purchases made on or before 10/24 (tuesday). 10/25 obviously places the release after that date... It also coincides better with the Apple London Expo and the Adobe Event in Vegas.

Then again, Apple released the iMac update silently and with no correlation to any other event. And the Apple printer promotion was going on then and instantly good with the new models.

I guess we'll find out shortly, eh?

[mautal]

Because all the current Apple rebates and promotions in the USA (and I believe a few other places) are good only on purchases made on or before 10/24 (tuesday). 10/25 obviously places the release after that date... It also coincides better with the Apple London Expo and the Adobe Event in Vegas.

I guess we'll find out shortly, eh?

they have another promo that runs from 10/17 - 1/22/07... i sure hope they dont wait for this to expire... although that is right around MWSF
shortly it is... only 9 more hours

[ipwn00bs]

thats so annoying now, you buy one new MacBook Pro then 6 months later its out dated. Im not saying its useless but c'mon.

[chasemac]

I'll spend my life waiting. So will you?:) Should be the new Apple slogan.:)

[AppliedVisual]

they have another promo that runs from 10/17 - 1/22/07... i sure hope they dont wait for this to expire... although that is right around MWSF
shortly it is... only 9 more hours

Yeah, the restarted the printer offer last week and it goes through January. The other promo is the .Mac one, also thru January.

The ones I was referring to that expire on 10/24 are the mail-in rebates offered through large retailers like Amazon. They still have to get Apple approval for those rebate programs as Apple sets prices.

Either way, we find out soon enough... Or at least I hope we do.

[Choppaface]

Did you photograph your installation process for us to learn by? How much did you pay for the 2.33GHz Merom?

there are mini cpu replacement tutorials all over, google fugger extreme systems, its really not all that hard. I got the merom chip at newegg, they have them in stock right now. my mini xbenches at at least 150, 180 w/out disk benches

[108]

i will be asleep when they sell the new hardware, if it happens

is anyone willing to ring my (japanese) cellular phone if there's good news?

. . . probably not?

[azeteg]

there are mini cpu replacement tutorials all over, google fugger extreme systems, its really not all that hard. I got the merom chip at newegg, they have them in stock right now. my mini xbenches at at least 150, 180 w/out disk benches

Dude, the Yonah in MBP is SOLDERED to the motherboard. You shouldn't try changing that CPU unless you have some serious skills and tools, I even doubt you would manage then.

[aussie_geek]

aussie_geek: since this upgrade is so trivial and meaningless to you ..... why do you keep reading and posting in this thread? LOL!

I've been waiting for this upgrade since Core Duo debuted in January, and I'll be up, bright and early, to order a C2D MBP in the morning! wOOt!

:D

iBorg


just to stir the pot!! :p


aussie_geek

[MacSA]

No the E207WFP 20 is 1650x1050.

I advocate the 2007FP 20 1600x1200 for only $359.20 (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-4687). That extra 150 verticle pixels is very helpful.

Dell really are fleecing their none US customers:

20" 2007FP: £311
24" 2407WFP: £566
20" 2007WFP: £401
30" 3007WFP: £1,365

People here are always raving about Dells low prices here, but I really dont think they're that cheap at all (in the UK) - unless you buy something with very old hardware that is.

[BlizzardBomb]

I advocate the 2007FP 20 1600x1200 for only $359.20 (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-4687). That extra 150 verticle pixels is very helpful.

That monitor wouldn't be any good if you watch HD videos (or even DVDs).

Dell really are fleecing their none US customers:

20" 2007FP: £311
24" 2407WFP: £566
20" 2007WFP: £401
30" 3007WFP: £1,365

People here are always raving about Dells low prices here, but I really dont think they're that cheap at all (in the UK) - unless you buy something with very old hardware that is.

Got it in one. :)

[sammich]

Haven't seen this mentioned in a while...

If they do release the new MBP's tomorrow, what is the chance that Apple's skunkworks will be working for a readyboost-like feature? It'll help us guys who can't wait until March/April for Santa Rosa, stick in a CF card reader into the MBP and a 2gb+ card and presto (could work quite well with the new hard sleep feature).

[absurdio]

I'd love to see a new design, but I'll be happy with:
1. C2D 2.33GHz
2. bigger HD, with easy-swap HD bay
3. heat problems, "mooing," and random-shutdowns solved

Anything else will be icing on the cake!

:)

iBorg

Completely right. As everyone else has speculated, it seems likely that the big overhaul will be early next year. That said, if this revision has the upgrades you mentioned, I'll be elated. I'd much rather have a functional (i.e. not overheating, mooing, and whining) machine than a feature-crammed but functionally useless one. Stability, in this case, is probably more important than unworkable new features.

[adrianblaine]

thats so annoying now, you buy one new MacBook Pro then 6 months later its out dated. Im not saying its useless but c'mon.

It is hard to expect anything else. Just about every computer you buy is already outdated the minute you get it, they just aren't able to produce the better stuff in mass yet... I would like to have an outdated computer more than a current one for any great length of time, so that when I need a new one they are that much better instead of only slightly better.

[luke_s]

APPLE STORE IS DOWN,

no joke

at least in Germany

Thumbs up :)

[maverick808]

UK store down too!

[adrianblaine]

APPLE STORE IS DOWN,

no joke

at least in Germany

Thumbs up :)

The only stores I found still up were the US and Canada

[daveyjokes]

MBPs...

are immenent!

Midday Tuesday, the UK store has gone down for updating, im guessing MBPs...

http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore

We all know what it looks like but i took a screenshot for the un-believers

Davey

[maverick808]

The only stores I found still up were the US and Canada

US and Canada always go down last, they should be down in the next 10 minutes or so.

[ju5tin81]

Bring on the MacBooks...

Can't afford a pro :(

[rxse7en]

Amazing! Here's to new MBPs today. *fingers crossed*

[logicpro7]

yes i too can confirm that the uk store is down :eek:

[majidf]

... not really reliable method was used ...

[mogwia]

holland down to :) JEEPIE!!! (dreaming of a 17 inch MBP) :) ;) :o :cool:

[blackstarliner]

swiss site also down

[Surf and Turf]

dun get excited it is just routine maintanace. The new mbk will will be released late november
sorry

[mogwia]

america down too!! JEEEEEE :) :confused: :eek:

[maverick808]

dun get excited it is just routine maintanace. The new mbk will will be released late november
sorry

There has NEVER been routine maintainence carried out early on Tuesday mornings. NEVER.

Maintainence always happens in the evenings.

Also, what's and MBK?