Dieting for the summer?

[Stelliform]

I know there are more MR readers than not that still have the fountain of youth bubbling inside of them.... But for us old fogies... (I am 27 ;) ) How many of you are dieting for the summer, and what are you doing?

For almost 2 months I have been doing the tired and true eat less and exercise more method. It seems to be working. I am up to 7 people who have sontaneously told me that I look like I lost weight. I am not sure how much I lost since my kids broke my scale... :(

Anyway, anybody else dieting for swimsuit weather?

[rainman::|:|]

I eat about 10x more red meat in the summer than the winter, does that count? ;) Seriously tho, i can't diet (it's physically impossible, i'm too damn lazy) but I have a newfound friend with a swimming pool, so I think I'll be there a couple of times a week exercising... I'd rather work out at a friend's house and look good at the gym than look like crap at the gym to look good for my friends...

:)

pnw

[Roger1]

I'm exercising more, and trying to eat less (can someone loan me some willpower?). The docter told me I was fat and had to lose weight. She threatened me with blood pressure pills if I didn't.

[lmalave]

Yup, I am. I really gotta lose weight. I was totally ripped just 3 years ago and I won't even tell you how much weight I've gained since then :eek: It's gotten to the point to where I'm almost embarrassed to meet someone that knew me back then but hasn't seen my in a while, 'cuz I know they'd be thinking: "man, he has really let himself go."

I'm just going back to what has always worked for me: low fat and high protein diet, drink lots of water, 5 or 6 workouts a week. The hardest part is getting used to the hunger. I don't care what anybody says, you have to have a calorie deficit to lose weight. Specifically, 3000 calories = 1 lb of fat. Certain things like exercise make you feel the hunger pangs less, but you have to go hungry. Ideally your calorie deficit should be about 500 calories a day so you lose about a pound a week, so it won't be a shock to your system. What I've done in the past that worked like a charm is not eat until I've been hungry for about an hour. Except at night when I go to bed hungry.

Anyway, good luck. I plan to be back to fighting shape by the end of summer.

[arn]

there was a recent study looking at the high protein diets (atkins) and weight loss.

In the end, it looks like the people who lost weight ate less calories over longer periods of time. :)

so... no big surprise, but also no magic bullet either. Though, many claim you are less hungry eating a high protein diet - making it more doable.

arn

[lmalave]

Originally posted by arn
there was a recent study looking at the high protein diets (atkins) and weight loss.

In the end, it looks like the people who lost weight ate less calories over longer periods of time. :)

so... no big surprise, but also no magic bullet either. Though, many claim you are less hungry eating a high protein diet - making it more doable.

arn

The high protein is because otherwise 1/3 of the weight you lose would be muscle. The way to combat this is to eat high protein and work out.

[dstorey]

Oh yeah deffo!!!! I'm going on a see food diet...see food and eat it. I eat so much and I'm still around 140 Lbs or less...:) The wonders of a fast motab. I think i will step up my gym routine though if I can.

[evoluzione]

yeah i'm kind of dieting, but then a hot brasilian chick introduced me to godiva ice cream, not a good thing. i drink a lot of tea, which is apparently good for the metabolism, hot liquids...

i'm skinny-ish, but need to tone up, i think i'm gonna try and start badminton again, trouble is, everything is so expensive in nyc...

[dstorey]

Originally posted by evoluzione

i'm skinny-ish, but need to tone up, i think i'm gonna try and start badminton again, trouble is, everything is so expensive in nyc...

Well there is alway some form of physical excercise with said hot brazilian that doesn't cost a lot...even in NYC ;) tell her she needs to work that ice cream off and you have just the ticket haha.

[Giaguara]

i'll get a pool pass for the swimming pool for all summer ASAP it opens. i want to be back under 100 lb ...

[vniow]

I wouldn't say diet, I'll looking to get a bit less off the stomach though, maybe I can somehow transfer the fat from there into my non-ass.

[dstorey]

Originally posted by vniow
I wouldn't say diet, I'll looking to get a bit less off the stomach though, maybe I can somehow transfer the fat from there into my non-ass.

...well maybe if you use a stepper or ski machine on the right setting then it will work your stomach and build the muscle in your ass bigger at the same time.....well maybe ;-)

[andrewlandry]

yeah, i'm getting liposuction and stomach staples so i can look hot at the beach - just kidding. actually, i've started running again and i gave up dairy. i'm pretty skinny (150) but i've been starting to get a belly for a while. i was already a vegetarian (since '96) but starting eating pretty bad stuff lately - lots of NYC pizza, do-nuts, cheese enchiladas, bagels and cream cheese. if i ate like that into my 30s (27 now), i would definitely become huge.

[GeneR]

I heard that step climbing creates the wrong kind of @$$ for a woman. If they really want to look good they should use stationary bikes and tread mills.

Diet.

What's that? :D

What me worry?

I've found that drinking water in the morning when you get up and right before you go to sleep help. So too does exercising before you go to sleep because then you're asleep and the fat's burning when you don't mind. You may still be hungry in the morning but eating breakfast after drinking the water makes you eat less in the morning but doesn't make you so hungry.

I'm working on losing weight. I lost about fifteen pounds in the last year without much effort. I'm working on another twenty before Summer time.

[dstorey]

there are plenty of cute girls at the guy that use the stepper and they dont look bad not that i look or anything....I personnaly find the inmpact on a treadmill really hurts my calfs or my knee's. I can do the bike, ski, stepper or rowing machine for quite a while but five mins on the treadmill and my calfs feel like the've been streached to hell and back again.

[scem0]

I'm doing the Ramen noodle Diet™, consisting of... well... Ramen
Noodles. Primarily Orientle, beef, and chilli chicken. :D

[GeneR]

Originally posted by scem0
I'm doing the Ramen noodle Diet™, consisting of... well... Ramen
Noodles. Primarily Orientle, beef, and chilli chicken. :D

Well, I guess we couldn't see THAT one coming, Scem0. ;)

[scem0]

Originally posted by GeneR
Well, I guess we couldn't see THAT one coming, Scem0. ;)

I would be dissapointed if y'all couldn't. :D

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by dstorey
Well there is alway some form of physical excercise with said hot brazilian that doesn't cost a lot...even in NYC ;) tell her she needs to work that ice cream off and you have just the ticket haha.

hah, ya don't think i'm working on that one? hopefully she'll be there for the game tomorrow, along with one or two of the others haha.

sex is good exercise, shame i ain't getting any :( lol

[eyelikeart]

The only thing different I'm doing with summer is more time out on my bike. I keep a decent diet all year long, exercise with weights regularly and hit the bike whenever I can usually. ;)

High protein diets are pretty decent, with a lower fat & good fat intake. Studies have proven that people who drastically reduced their fat intake lost less weight than people who had a balanced diet consisting of good fats & less calories.

now about 27 being "old"...I'll be 26 this year...and I'm in better shape than I've ever been in my life... ;)

[dstorey]

Originally posted by evoluzione
hah, ya don't think i'm working on that one? hopefully she'll be there for the game tomorrow, along with one or two of the others haha.

sex is good exercise, shame i ain't getting any :( lol

you bought her one of them new lady fit LFC shirts (and being brazillian she can tie it up to show more midrift) and those small 80's liverpool shorts yet? She'll love ya for life...they better all be lfc supporters by now....By the way save me a hot argie or brazillian for when i come over....;)

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by dstorey
you bought her one of them new lady fit LFC shirts (and being brazillian she can tie it up to show more midrift) and those small 80's liverpool shorts yet? She'll love ya for life...they better all be lfc supporters by now....By the way save me a hot argie or brazillian for when i come over....;)

i should get her one, she does support lfc now :) the hottest girl though (argentinian) is a manc fan, only 'cause of veron and forlan mind.

and as for saving one?? bollocks to ya mate! hehe, we'll see ;)

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by evoluzione
i should get her one, she does support lfc now :) the hottest girl though (argentinian) is a manc fan, only 'cause of veron and forlan mind.

and as for saving one?? bollocks to ya mate! hehe, we'll see ;)

Wow, the profanity filter misses BOLLOCKS:D :D :D being a brit has advantages to numerous to mention...;)

I'm in training for the Tomiki Aikido world championships in Leeds this summer (glances at rippling six-pack) (not) I'm 39 and it's REALLY hurting:eek:

I'm down to 190 (I'm 6 foot) but the body fat % is slow to move.

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by WinterMute
Wow, the profanity filter misses BOLLOCKS:D :D :D being a brit has advantages to numerous to mention...;)

I'm in training for the Tomiki Aikido world championships in Leeds this summer (glances at rippling six-pack) (not) I'm 39 and it's REALLY hurting:eek:

I'm down to 190 (I'm 6 foot) but the body fat % is slow to move.

good luck in that mate. i'm about 6'1" and around 160lb i think. all my fat is on my gut, weird. not that i got a big gut mind.

yeah that fat thing sounds about right, if i eat really healthy, i don't lose anything, yet if i eat a plate of full english for brecky i end up skinny, wtf?

[dstorey]

Originally posted by evoluzione
i the hottest girl though (argentinian) is a manc fan, only 'cause of veron and forlan mind.


and now it all comes clear why you want to move venue.....Even if she's fit and doesn't need a diet for summer (keeping on topic ;)) there is no excuse for that...we have an argie on trial at the moment, some wonderkid by all accounts, tell her than and convert her...

Dam i didn't gop to the gym again today...why does it always seem so much harder after you've had a few weeks break...I really need to get into the swing of things again...I can't l;ift nearly as much as i could 3 weeks ago ansd the rowing machine feels like i'm moving through treacle.

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by dstorey
and now it all comes clear why you want to move venue.....Even if she's fit and doesn't need a diet for summer (keeping on topic ;)) there is no excuse for that...we have an argie on trial at the moment, some wonderkid by all accounts, tell her than and convert her...

Dam i didn't gop to the gym again today...why does it always seem so much harder after you've had a few weeks break...I really need to get into the swing of things again...I can't l;ift nearly as much as i could 3 weeks ago ansd the rowing machine feels like i'm moving through treacle.


hah, good plan stan

thank goodness for that muscle memory eh? once you get back into it, you'll be good again

[Stelliform]

Originally posted by eyelikeart

now about 27 being "old"...I'll be 26 this year...and I'm in better shape than I've ever been in my life... ;)

Well I didn't really feel old until I had kids. My oldest kid is going to Kindergarten next fall! Now that my friend is old... :p

I also gained weight with my wife when she had the kids. She and I never lost it....

I don't think I will hit my total weight loss goal by the time we vacation at the beach this year, but I think I already weigh less than I did when we went last year.

For my diet I have switched to smaller portions and I eat slowly. I have cut out foods that I can live without that are high in calories. (like fried foods.) I have not cut out sweets... Cuz I can't live without them.. :D But I do moderate how much I eat of the sweets. I also introduced fruits into my diet... I like them and they are better for you than a candy bar....

I also cut out (Pick your native word.. Soda, Pop, Coke) and replaced it with diet coke when I need a caffine fix....

My exercize routine is not orgainzed at all, but it at least gets me moving. I jog, do situps, pull-ups, and move around a few light weights.

I bascially introduced one change at a time and stuck with it until it became routine. Then I added a new one. I am trying to make this permament.

[dstorey]

I find i' prefere a beef sarnie or a pork pie or the like over chocolate or sweets but then i guess i must be weird....guess they are better for you than sweet stuff though. I heard almonds are suppose to be very good for you if you want to tone up and not put weight on, along with water, salmon, milk,yogurt with fruit and pasta...not all together though.....

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by Stelliform

I bascially introduced one change at a time and stuck with it until it became routine. Then I added a new one. I am trying to make this permament.

It seems that u are doing it right. Too many people dive in headfirst into new diets or exercise, end up burning out too soon, then quit. Things take time, and exercise takes time to build up and really see the benefits. I've been working out on & off for about 10 years, but only in the past couple have I really pushed myself to keep it up consistently (and I am seeing results).

The less caloric intake is key, along with not overstuffing yourself. It's amazing to consider our stomachs take 20 mins, on average, to tell our brains we're full...and usually by the time we feel it, we've been eating so fast we're really stuffed. More small, healthier meals more often is an excellent way to boost your metabolism. Still stay within your recommended caloric intake, but spread it out over a longer period of time and your body will continually be working to process food, thus making your metabolism work harder.

;)

[jelloshotsrule]

i'm keeping up my non-dairy plan as much as i can...


seriously though, this is a board for nerds, not fit people. ;)

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
seriously though, this is a board for nerds, not fit people. ;)

well yeah...but I'm pretty fit...or so I think...

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
well yeah...but I'm pretty fit...or so I think...

well then... get lost! ;)

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
well then... get lost! ;)

oh bite me...hotdog boy! :D ;)

[wdlove]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
well yeah...but I'm pretty fit...or so I think...

Is that your cholesterol or muscular fitness? ;) I agree that you looked very fit and trim in the pictures that you shared during Fat Tuesday! :)

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by wdlove
Is that your cholesterol or muscular fitness? ;) I agree that you looked very fit and trim in the pictures that you shared during Fat Tuesday! :)

ha ha...I was drunk... ;)

there are no photos of me like that though...never had a desire to have one I suppose...

[maluscanis]

For those of you considering high protein diets like the Atkins', please realize that they have the potential to be injurious to your health (the liver particularly). No one totally understands the body's metabolism but a lot of these non-traditional diets seem to have too many well-informed critics. In my opinion, the best way to diet is through a lifestyle change. Many don't like to hear it, but exercise is the closest thing to a health magic bullet. That and eating healthy foods and maintaining a reasonable caloric intake.

Best of luck to all of you.

[Chomolungma]

A few months ago I posted a repy advocating a one meal a day as a good diet strategy. People dismissed it as being stupid and insane. Well, more and more studies are coming out saying that eating less can be mentally and physically benificial. Just this past few days, msnbc.com reported two studies that reaffirmed what I knew and believe.

I'll again advocate one meal per day diet plan.
Pros: it saves you money and it gives your digestive system a break. When your blood sugar level is low, your body is forced to burn excess fat. Fewer bowel movements!

Eat whatever you want for this one meal, but I suggest quality over quantity which may not save you much money.

If you don't like to exercise and work at a desk, I suggest eating one meal every other day. Trust me, you won't die. There are literally millions of people in the world that consume much less food than this and they are living albeit not at a desirable level.

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by maluscanis
In my opinion, the best way to diet is through a lifestyle change. Many don't like to hear it, but exercise is the closest thing to a health magic bullet. That and eating healthy foods and maintaining a reasonable caloric intake.

perfectly said :D

most people want the quick & easy solution...and th ere honestly is not one... ;)

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
perfectly said :D

most people want the quick & easy solution...and th ere honestly is not one...

Rome wasn't built in a day...;)

[Angelus]

Dieting always seems to imply eating less and exercising to lose weight for a period of time.The weight gets put on again and so the cycle starts all over.why just "diet" for the summer?It would be far more beneficial to eat healthier foods and exercise properly.
Also its important to organise your meals so that you give your pancreas a break.I read somewhere its better to eat complex carbohydrates in the morning because they take time to get broken down and give your pancreas a break from producing insulin and glucagon all of the time.
My plan in the summer is to engeage in alot of cardio work outs cos i ve been kinda neglecting it for the past few months.Also im aiming to achieve more tone all over.Im not aiming to get bulk muscle cos that wont help my climbing instead im aiming to reduce my body fat %

[eyelikeart]

the key to toning up is more reps with less weight...combine that with some cardio...and a well balanced diet... ;)

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Chomolungma
A few months ago I posted a repy advocating a one meal a day as a good diet strategy. People dismissed it as being stupid and insane. Well, more and more studies are coming out saying that eating less can be mentally and physically benificial. Just this past few days, msnbc.com reported two studies that reaffirmed what I knew and believe.

I'll again advocate one meal per day diet plan.
Pros: it saves you money and it gives your digestive system a break. When your blood sugar level is low, your body is forced to burn excess fat. Fewer bowel movements!

Eat whatever you want for this one meal, but I suggest quality over quantity which may not save you much money.

If you don't like to exercise and work at a desk, I suggest eating one meal every other day. Trust me, you won't die. There are literally millions of people in the world that consume much less food than this and they are living albeit not at a desirable level.

Metabolizing food puts a lot of strain on the body, so eating less is indeed healthier. But eating one meal a day is not a good idea. The best way to eat is "grazing" - just eat a little bit of food every 3 hours or so. Whatever your body can't use within 3 hours it will store as fat, so you end up putting more strain on your body by having to store fat and then burn it off again, which is what you were trying to avoid in the first place...

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by Chomolungma
A few months ago I posted a repy advocating a one meal a day as a good diet strategy. People dismissed it as being stupid and insane. Well, more and more studies are coming out saying that eating less can be mentally and physically benificial. Just this past few days, msnbc.com reported two studies that reaffirmed what I knew and believe.

I'll again advocate one meal per day diet plan.
Pros: it saves you money and it gives your digestive system a break. When your blood sugar level is low, your body is forced to burn excess fat. Fewer bowel movements!

Eat whatever you want for this one meal, but I suggest quality over quantity which may not save you much money.

If you don't like to exercise and work at a desk, I suggest eating one meal every other day. Trust me, you won't die. There are literally millions of people in the world that consume much less food than this and they are living albeit not at a desirable level.

eating more times burns more. eating less time allows your digestive to rest and you feel better probably after getting used to it. but you burn less. if you eat many small (small, i won't call them a meal in american terms but not snack = crap either) a day, you keep burning and burn easier. so like instead of having one 700 kcal meal a day you'll burn more eating 1200 kcal divided to 6 200 kcal mini meals. even eating many times should be eating not much during the day, that'll burn more. it'll keep also your brain working better.

i can do days without eating at all, i don't feel hunger, but that won't burn the right way. it'll burn the muscles, and when you have burned them you'll have just the fat left (even if you do sports), and once you eat you'll get easier just the fat back. besides i notice too often huge energy drops, the brain just quits working after there is no sugar left (in liver). so just to think i force myself to eat sometimes.

[wdlove]

Originally posted by lmalave
Metabolizing food puts a lot of strain on the body, so eating less is indeed healthier. But eating one meal a day is not a good idea. The best way to eat is "grazing" - just eat a little bit of food every 3 hours or so. Whatever your body can't use within 3 hours it will store as fat, so you end up putting more strain on your body by having to store fat and then burn it off again, which is what you were trying to avoid in the first place...

Yes, 6 small meals a day are much better than 3. Will make it easier for the body to digest! The evening meal should be the smaller meal, because your activity is decreasing at that point. What the body doesn't need it will store as fat! ;)

[jelloshotsrule]

is 2000... or even 2500 calories really something anyone adheres to these days? ha

[Groovsonic]

Originally posted by maluscanis
For those of you considering high protein diets like the Atkins', please realize that they have the potential to be injurious to your health (the liver particularly). No one totally understands the body's metabolism but a lot of these non-traditional diets seem to have too many well-informed critics. In my opinion, the best way to diet is through a lifestyle change. Many don't like to hear it, but exercise is the closest thing to a health magic bullet. That and eating healthy foods and maintaining a reasonable caloric intake.

Having gone on the Atkins diet a bunch of times, here is my take on it: You lose a lot of weight really fast. You can eat as much of the allowed foods as you want (which gets smaller, because you get tired of meat all the time). Having said that, You also gain weight really fast once you go off it. I have probably gained and lost 100 lbs over the last 2 years on this diet. Not healthy. I know.

I find this other diet I was on (and kind of currently on) to be a really good idea. You just eat when you feel the physical sensation of hunger, and only enough to kill that hunger pain. You can eat whatever you want, but you can only eat when you are physically hungry. It works pretty well. I have adapted it so I basically only eat once every one or two days. I know that is not healthy either, and even combined with my excersize and physically active job, i will still lose muscle, but I just have to do it. I really want to lose 20 or so lbs. by June 15th. I know that is unrealistic and I will probably fall off the wagon and gain weight before then, but I really want to do this. I am 20 years old, 5' 7" and about 175 lbs. I am not really all that fat, except in the middle (gut, butt, ect...). I kind of have a homer simpson body, and it is not good. I wish I could just lose fat there, but the only way to spot reduce is to get liposuction, and that is just too expensive and too drastic for me. I dunno. I have been fighting this ever since I was like 12, but I have never gotten into shape. I know that if I can just get down to a good weight, I will be able to stay there and keep it off, and excersise to get into good shape, but I haven't been in shape ever as far as I can remember.
The problem is that I really like to eat way too much and I live near chicago and there is just too much good food around here, and we have the WORST kind of good food. Stuffed Chicago style pizza ( giordanos...), chicago dogs (portillos...mmm), Italian Beef (buona beef is sooo good.) These are all like the worst food. That combined with my lust toward white castle and arbys, and the occasional fling with steak and shake and mcdonalds, I am a mess. Oh, did I mention my mom is like the best cook? I am trapped by all this delicious, nasty, fat food. Arrg....

I am going to stop typing now.

hehe

[wdlove]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
is 2000... or even 2500 calories really something anyone adheres to these days? ha

Diabetics follow a calorie diet to keep their disease under control. Those wanting to loose weight watch their calories. Physicians still put patients on a certain caloric diet to contol numerous diseases!

[janey]

i stopped eating a lot to the point where my mom tries to force me to eat every single day...

[eyelikeart]

I'm not even sure what my daily intake is...

but I do know that I burn an average of 1860 calories daily...this based on my degree of physical activity along with weight & other factors... ;)

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
but I do know that I burn an average of 1860 calories daily...this based on my degree of physical activity along with weight & other factors... ;)

how'd you find that out? some sort of nerd thing i'm sure


also, i think the way to start any "diet" or lifestyle change towards a healthier tomorrow (;)) is a colonic... seriously. lose 5-10 pounds of disgusting stuff that has no place in your body.... once that's gone, the rest is downhill!

[lmalave]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
is 2000... or even 2500 calories really something anyone adheres to these days? ha

I think the average in the U.S. is approaching 3000. Two countries consume more calories than us, though: Ireland and Greece.

[lmalave]

Originally posted by übergeek
i stopped eating a lot to the point where my mom tries to force me to eat every single day...

Mangia!

For some reason this reminded me of the indescribably wacky restaurant La Mela in Little Italy. There is no menu, they just start bringing you food and you have to turn it down if you don't want it. And one time my friend was on a date there and I guess he was eating too slow, and the waiter came up to him and said: "You got-ta mouth-a, you got-ta use-a it!", grabbed my friend's fork, and proceeded to shovel tomato into my friend's mouth. Those wacky people! :eek:

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
how'd you find that out? some sort of nerd thing i'm sure

I don't even remember which magazine it was now...likely Men's Health from a couple months ago. It factored in your weight, how much exercise u maintain, and did some math to come to it basically.

I'm trying to find it to post a link... ;)

[wdlove]

Originally posted by übergeek
i stopped eating a lot to the point where my mom tries to force me to eat every single day...

Your statement troubles me übergeek! :( I do know that if your mom tries to force you, whether she know it or not she will make it worse. Do you like your body übergeek? I hope that you are just rebelling, but your comment does concern me! :(

[Stelliform]

Originally posted by wdlove
Your statement troubles me übergeek! :( I do know that if your mom tries to force you, whether she know it or not she will make it worse. Do you like your body übergeek? I hope that you are just rebelling, but your comment does concern me! :(

Me too, from what Uber has posted previously I think that she is dangerously thin... But I do not really know her personally, just impressions...

BTW I have lost 10 lbs so far!

[wdlove]

Originally posted by Stelliform
Me too, from what Uber has posted previously I think that she is dangerously thin... But I do not really know her personally, just impressions...

BTW I have lost 10 lbs so far!

Over what period of time did you loose the 10 pounds? Thank you for you concern for übergeek!

[Stelliform]

Originally posted by wdlove
Over what period of time did you loose the 10 pounds? Thank you for you concern for übergeek!

It took me two months, but I am trying to make more of a lifestyle change. I still eat junk, but far less of it. I also started exercising. I jogged a mile and a half today when I used to not be able to make a quarter mile. (And then I walked 3 more miles.... :))

[janey]

heh i lost enough weight to make my mom worried...and i shrunk...three freaking sizes in one month...:) great way to lose weight though
btw i hate my body, it's horribly ugly

[Stelliform]

Originally posted by übergeek
heh i lost enough weight to make my mom worried...and i shrunk...three freaking sizes in one month...:) great way to lose weight though
btw i hate my body, it's horribly ugly

Uber, every woman at some time thinks that... Just don't go starving yourself to death. It can happen. Guy's don't think skeletons are hot.

[janey]

Originally posted by Stelliform
Uber, every woman at some time thinks that... Just don't go starving yourself to death. It can happen. Guy's don't think skeletons are hot.
actually stelliform...how did you know that ibookin'@mwny is my bf?
i'm not that skinny...but i did lose that much weight.

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by Stelliform
Guy's don't think skeletons are hot.

So? The same logic like with the boobs? I should like mine? i've always hated them even when they are and have thank god, always been below the 'average'. i should like mine ONLY TO PLEASE MEN? i hate havin ANY of them. i love to run, i love to swim, i hate to have ANY FSCKIN' CURVE IN MY BODY. i need to please men? is that like being 50 % of more wieght that i like to be, like 120 lb or something? i just want to be confortable with ME. 80 lb. and don't ask my height, i'm afraid i've posted it somehwere... :eek:

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by lmalave
I think the average in the U.S. is approaching 3000. Two countries consume more calories than us, though: Ireland and Greece.

not CONSUME. you meant EAT? i dont believe they eat more kcals in ireland than in US, just as crap as ppl in US do. and greek food isn't probably as fattening as you probably feel more full before having finished a full plate of crap.

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by lmalave
Mangia!

For some reason this reminded me of the indescribably wacky restaurant La Mela in Little Italy. There is no menu, they just start bringing you food and you have to turn it down if you don't want it. And one time my friend was on a date there and I guess he was eating too slow, and the waiter came up to him and said: "You got-ta mouth-a, you got-ta use-a it!", grabbed my friend's fork, and proceeded to shovel tomato into my friend's mouth. Those wacky people! :eek:

i'd never go to a place like that. firstly as a non-typical italian i don't eat any wheat and ... as i HATE being forced in any form to eat anything. so i'd go to a sushi place where normally no one freaks out if you want to have like 4 pieces of raw fis hwith the excuse you've alrady eaten ... whatver, hearing a comment like that would make me comment nastily. and in a deep deep south italian accent if it was in any italian or like in most cases, fake italian, place. no wheat, no meat, no fat, no onions and no garlic please... :)

[Stelliform]

Originally posted by übergeek
actually stelliform...how did you know that ibookin'@mwny is my bf?
i'm not that skinny...but i did lose that much weight.

Uber, who doesn't? ;) You post it all of the time. :D

I was just concerned since you have also posted your low weight several times. I just wanted to make sure that your posts were just bragging on your low weight, and not a cry for help. My Sister-in-law, who is in highschool, has friends with eating disorders. They are very dangerous and more common that we would like to believe. Since I have never seen you, I asked ibookin. :D

He thinks your body is nice. ;)

[Stelliform]

Originally posted by Giaguara
So? The same logic like with the boobs? I should like mine? i've always hated them even when they are and have thank god, always been below the 'average'. i should like mine ONLY TO PLEASE MEN? i hate havin ANY of them. i love to run, i love to swim, i hate to have ANY FSCKIN' CURVE IN MY BODY. i need to please men? is that like being 50 % of more wieght that i like to be, like 120 lb or something? i just want to be confortable with ME. 80 lb. and don't ask my height, i'm afraid i've posted it somehwere... :eek:

I didn't mean to offend anybody. :) I was just concerned that Uber's weight was too low. She is a young teenager, and losing weight isn't exactly what normally happens at her age... I was attempting to allude to my concern without just saying it. Eating disorders are fairly common in the US. I am not sure about other countries...

Personally I think people should maintain their bodies the way they like them. When I was Uber's age I thought I was horribly fat. Now when I look at pictures I was unbelievable skinny. :eek:
So much oh our negative images of our body comes from ourselves.

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Giaguara
i'd never go to a place like that. firstly as a non-typical italian i don't eat any wheat and ... as i HATE being forced in any form to eat anything. so i'd go to a sushi place where normally no one freaks out if you want to have like 4 pieces of raw fis hwith the excuse you've alrady eaten ... whatver, hearing a comment like that would make me comment nastily. and in a deep deep south italian accent if it was in any italian or like in most cases, fake italian, place. no wheat, no meat, no fat, no onions and no garlic please... :)
It's definitely a non-typical Italian restaurant, even by Little Italy standards (which is just a big tourist trap now, the Italian community mostly moved out of there decades ago). It's just...unique. But hey, it's worked for them. Most people go there not for the food but for the wackyness.

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Giaguara
not CONSUME. you meant EAT? i dont believe they eat more kcals in ireland than in US, just as crap as ppl in US do. and greek food isn't probably as fattening as you probably feel more full before having finished a full plate of crap.

Hey, it's just what I read. All three were in the 2800-2900 range, as I recall. Must be all that Guiness. I'm not sure what the story is in Greece. I've been to Greece and the people definitely didn't seem fat there, so maybe it was a flawed survey.

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Giaguara
So? The same logic like with the boobs? I should like mine? i've always hated them even when they are and have thank god, always been below the 'average'. i should like mine ONLY TO PLEASE MEN? i hate havin ANY of them. i love to run, i love to swim, i hate to have ANY FSCKIN' CURVE IN MY BODY. i need to please men? is that like being 50 % of more wieght that i like to be, like 120 lb or something? i just want to be confortable with ME. 80 lb. and don't ask my height, i'm afraid i've posted it somehwere... :eek:

Hey, I like my big boobs ;)

Seriously, one of my strongest motivators to get to the gym was that my once-formidable pecs were turning into man-boob. Reminds me of that scene in the Simpsons where Homer is starving in the desert and looks down and says "I'm down to a B cup!"

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Stelliform

So much oh our negative images of our body comes from ourselves.

and media portrayal of what is "right" and "beautiful"

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by Stelliform
I didn't mean to offend anybody. :) I was just concerned that Uber's weight was too low. She is a young teenager, and losing weight isn't exactly what normally happens at her age... I was attempting to allude to my concern without just saying it. Eating disorders are fairly common in the US. I am not sure about other countries...

Personally I think people should maintain their bodies the way they like them. When I was Uber's age I thought I was horribly fat. Now when I look at pictures I was unbelievable skinny. :eek:
So much oh our negative images of our body comes from ourselves.

i searched for übergeek and weight on board and found the thread you were talking about. hm. interesting. she really likes to talk about it. :rolleys:

btw, the eating disorders aren't common ONLY in US but their incidence / percentage in the population is about the same in all the world.. with probably just more pressure of the environment to look 'acceptable' etc on (any of the) western countries. and about 10 % of all people suffering them, are males, probably even more ..

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by lmalave
It's definitely a non-typical Italian restaurant, even by Little Italy standards. It's just...unique. But hey, it's worked for them. Most people go there not for the food but for the wackyness.

Yuk. :rolleyes:

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by lmalave
Hey, I like my big boobs ;)

Seriously, one of my strongest motivators to get to the gym was that my once-formidable pecs were turning into man-boob. Reminds me of that scene in the Simpsons where Homer is starving in the desert and looks down and says "I'm down to a B cup!"

:D

Well i definitelly don't like at all having boobs. They suck when you run or swim or basically just do anything, and not just when they are b or bigger .. :rolleyes:

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by Stelliform
I was just concerned that Uber's weight was too low. She is a young teenager, and losing weight isn't exactly what normally happens at her age... I was attempting to allude to my concern without just saying it.

Well, I see ... below some quotes from her on this and the other thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21201).

"you guys are so freaking NORMAL!!!!!
i'm like 5'7" and i only weigh like 90 pounds...okay okay i'm a superskinny girl geek"

"my mom sayz i'm just like steve jobs...a vegetarian that doesn't eat anythin"

" Ummm that's like near impossible every week i'm losing at least 2 pounds or so and i did swim and play football and or basketball but not anymore [...] i'm all skin and bones!!!!!"

"**'s trying to force me to eat but i'm trying not to...i'm not hungry...
he also yelled at me because when i came back from a three day snowboarding trip i was totally different..."

"I'm not a plump person, i'm so skinny that i'm starting to look more and more like a skeleton[...] my doctor was freaked out by my weight...it was closer to 80, not 90 and he's like omfg you just gotta try and eat more"

"i just can't eat. i would love to but i don't feel hungry."

"i stopped eating a lot to the point where my mom tries to force me to eat every single day..."

i think those comments pretty well say it. i don't mean to piss you off über but those thoughts aren't probably exactly as a westerner 14 y old girl is supposed to think. :eek:

[Stelliform]

Thanks for doing the legwork for me Giaguara. :) Those are the comments that raised my concern... The one about her Doctor in particular....

I know she is a vegitarian, but mabey she isn't getting enough calories to be healthy. Of course I am a computer geek, I don't know much about health. I am sure that some of our aspiring physicians can give their 2 cents. :)

(Sorry to gang up on you Uber, I am sure you get enough of that at your house. (Based on what you have shared... ))

By the way, I don't like having boobs either... But I am a guy. ;) I am hoping that with this exercise I will at least drop a cup... :D

[jelloshotsrule]

as a vegetarian (blah blah), let me just say that it takes more eating to get the right stuff. that is, you get protein from pretty much everything you eat, just not much... sure, beans, rice, peanut butter and soy/tofu are all pretty high in it, but it's not meat. plus, you generally eat meat with each meal. not every meal for a veggie involves the various things i mentioned, so you need to eat more to get the protein (though most people do eat more than they need of it)

that said, protein is not the only thing you need of course. calcium is big. even for non vegans, the calcium in milk has been found out to be not all that usable... the body can only use a pretty small % of it. so even if you get your 100% daily requirement, you really are only getting a % of that because your body can't process it all. this is why coral calcium (which the body can more easily process) is getting bigger... personally, i'd love to get on a coral calcium thing, but the gel caps are well, gelatin, which kinda defeats the purpose for me. ha. once the powder goes down in price and i have $ i may get some.


as for ubergeek... she's 14? i thought she was dating ibookin, who apparently is in college? i'm confused....


but 80 pounds isn't healthy given the comments above. there is a mental connection to being hungry, so it's not just physical. if you really really don't want to be hungry, you won't be (at least, not as easily/often)

ps. sorry for the tangent. good mood. :)

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
as for ubergeek... she's 14? i thought she was dating ibookin, who apparently is in college? i'm confused....[/B]

well, their profiles say they have about 2 years of age difference. i'd consider that not an excetional age difference...

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Giaguara
well, their profiles say they have about 2 years of age difference. i'd consider that not an excetional age difference...

right, but 14 and in college is not 2 years. i guess one or the other was kidding....

[lmalave]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
right, but 14 and in college is not 2 years. i guess one or the other was kidding....

Or he's a smartypants. There was a kid at my college that was 15. Got a 1600 on his SATs too, back when that meant something.

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by lmalave
Or he's a smartypants. There was a kid at my college that was 15. Got a 1600 on his SATs too, back when that meant something.

hard to believe though.. smart people make things with their spare time. or find cures and all that. not post on a dumb internet site. ;)

my bro got a 1600 on his sats. but he didn't even get into princeton.... didn't sleep with the right people. ha

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
right, but 14 and in college is not 2 years. i guess one or the other was kidding....

well, 16 and whatever schoolboy or student. is this (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=13551) then better as a 14 y o hobby list? :rolleyes:

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Giaguara
well, 16 and whatever schoolboy or student. is this (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=13551) then better as a 14 y o hobby list? :rolleyes:

sorry, but i don't really understand your sentence... ha

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
sorry, but i don't really understand your sentence... ha

well, "normality"..= ? 16 & in a college versus and 14 & "Occupation:"Software developer and part time middle school and college student" .. :confused:

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Giaguara
well, "normality"..= ? 16 & in a college versus and 14 & "Occupation:"Software developer and part time middle school and college student" .. :confused:

i wasn't referring to ibookin's profile. but something he said in another post.. and it wasn't as obvious a "joke" as the other things are exaggerated or whatever.

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
i wasn't referring to ibookin's profile. but something he said in another post.. and it wasn't as obvious a "joke" as the other things are exaggerated or whatever.

i'm not here enough to have seen what was what he said. but it feels deviated enough about the thread subject.

so, back to the topic maybe?
:confused:

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Giaguara
so, back to the topic maybe?
:confused:

i don't think we've been "on topic" in a while. but hey. :confused: :confused:

[janey]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
as for ubergeek... she's 14? i thought she was dating ibookin, who apparently is in college? i'm confused....
heh right now i weigh more than 80 pounds...i guess i gained a little weight too :)
anyway ibookin is my bf, and he is a college student...http://www.calstatela.edu/academic/eep
anyway thanx for your concern but i guess you people convinced me into eating more...yup absolutely no leftovers yesterday night...
edit: heh beat ya josh :)
btw, he's a year and four or so months older than i am ;) :p

[ibookin']

Ah-hah! There seems to be some doubt that I'm 15 and in college. Well, it is indeed true. I am in a special program called the Early Entrance Program (EEP) at California State University, Los Angeles. We have over 100 students, with some being as young as 13 (age when I entered).

I'm currently a sophomore working on a CS degree.

http://www.calstatela.edu/academic/eep

EDIT: I see über beat me to it.

[lmalave]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
hard to believe though.. smart people make things with their spare time. or find cures and all that. not post on a dumb internet site. ;)

my bro got a 1600 on his sats. but he didn't even get into princeton.... didn't sleep with the right people. ha

Told ya ibookin was a smartypants ;)

Man, we have a real brain trust gathered on these MacRumors forums, don't we? :eek:

[Stelliform]

Originally posted by übergeek

anyway thanx for your concern but i guess you people convinced me into eating more...yup absolutely no leftovers yesterday night...


I am glad for you Uber... You have people all over the globe concerned for you. :) Sounds like Jello has some good advice on eating vegetarian, but I am sure that you know what you are doing. I know I would die a quick death if I went vegitarian. :D

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Stelliform
I know I would die a quick death if I went vegitarian. :D

i doubt it. it's really pretty easy.

lmalave- you call it brain trust. i call it... nerd fest! ha

[Stelliform]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
i doubt it. it's really pretty easy.


Well, you see, I don't like to eat vegitables. :D I am catholic and I gave up meat one lent, (Which still allows fish) and I didn't make it a week. I was getting loopy from lack of food. :D

[eyelikeart]

I'm very certain I could do vegetarian quite easily; I would feel the hardest part would likely be finidng foods that were 100% meat-free. I know I already like the vegetarian foods that can be bought in grocery stores & specialty stores.

I'm not a big red meat eater, but I do eat a lot of poultry & fish, as well as occasional lean pork. I do, however, get a hankering for a nice fillet mignon from time to time. ;)

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Stelliform
Well, you see, I don't like to eat vegitables. :D I am catholic and I gave up meat one lent, (Which still allows fish) and I didn't make it a week. I was getting loopy from lack of food. :D

i didn't like vegetables either. you learn to like new things... i started out by not eating meat.. but eating fish. now i don't eat fish, and when i can, i don't eat dairy... it all gets easier. i mean, think about it one meal at a time and it's simple. that said, you need to actually have the motivation. you couldn't do it, "just to do it"

eye- yeah, there are some great foods that are nearly always vegetarian. or have veg options... for instance, indian, thai, and chinese places often have a tofu substitute option, or just dishes with tofu. or at least dishes without meat.

the hard things to avoid for "vegetarians" are gelatin and beef broth and that kind of stuff... the "sneakier" stuff. some people don't even bother (ie, my girlfriend. ha) she'll eat a marshmallow or jello with gelatin in it... but hey, to each their own.

now, trying to avoid all dairy is nuts, especially when eating out. that's why i do it when i can, but i don't put people out of their way or if i'm eating at a restaurant, i just get whatever they have that seems like the best option. if it's dairy free, then great. if not, i don't fret. ;)

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
eye- yeah, there are some great foods that are nearly always vegetarian. or have veg options... for instance, indian, thai, and chinese places often have a tofu substitute option, or just dishes with tofu. or at least dishes without meat.


Yeah, it's definitely easy to get tofu dishes at ethnic places. One of my clients is a kosher restaurant; which means they do have meats, but no dairy. It's easy to get dairy free desserts that way at least.

I think the bottom line is most people are educated enough in the sense that they think "vegetarian" means just eating plants & rice. There are some vegetarian substitutes that I'd swear weren't. ;)

[wdlove]

Originally posted by übergeek
heh right now i weigh more than 80 pounds...i guess i gained a little weight too :)
anyway ibookin is my bf, and he is a college student...http://www.calstatela.edu/academic/eep
anyway thanx for your concern but i guess you people convinced me into eating more...yup absolutely no leftovers yesterday night...
edit: heh beat ya josh :)
btw, he's a year and four or so months older than i am ;) :p

Thank you übergeek for your above comments. I feel much better about your situation now, sounds very positive! ;) Trully had concerns about you before, every life is precious. Congratulations on having such a nice boyfriend as ibookin! Just be sure and try to eat healthy! ;)

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by Stelliform
Well, you see, I don't like to eat vegitables. :D I am catholic and I gave up meat one lent, (Which still allows fish) and I didn't make it a week. I was getting loopy from lack of food. :D

Uh? I was grown as catholic too. so? I haven't eaten meat since 1989 or so ..

In a bar (some weeks ago) there was a vetyperoxide-brained (=blonde) waitress that though chicken was a vegetable. so she brang.. err... those vegetable quesadillas, and once i figured out it had chicken, i could not help going to vomit it all. i won't go back to that place again.

Oh, i remember some restaurants in finland had nothing as vege menus ... so, i tried to order the vegetarian parts of 2 different plates. well - the finns seemed to consider sausages as vegetable, so as well that felt quite unedible... :eek:

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Giaguara
Uh? I was grown as catholic too. so? I haven't eaten meat since 1989 or so ..


he was just saying he was catholic to talk about lent. no reason to pick a fight. seriously.

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
I'm very certain I could do vegetarian quite easily; I would feel the hardest part would likely be finidng foods that were 100% meat-free. I know I already like the vegetarian foods that can be bought in grocery stores & specialty stores.

i freak out when i find even gelatine .. like in candies, medicines, whatever. so.. vege, allergic to about everything...

i find it more hard to avoid onions than finding meat-free stuff. i'm just freaking allergic to onions. at least i can cook so i can avoid it.

so no meat (or chickens etc), no fried stuff, no creamy stuff, no gelatine, no onions.. and no wheat. (=no bread or pastas either). occasionally some fish though... i feel like the nightmare of all those cooking addicted people, they just freak out.. ;)

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Giaguara
Uh? I was grown as catholic too. so? I haven't eaten meat since 1989 or so ..

In a bar (some weeks ago) there was a vetyperoxide-brained (=blonde) waitress that though chicken was a vegetable. so she brang.. err... those vegetable quesadillas, and once i figured out it had chicken, i could not help going to vomit it all. i won't go back to that place again.

Oh, i remember some restaurants in finland had nothing as vege menus ... so, i tried to order the vegetarian parts of 2 different plates. well - the finns seemed to consider sausages as vegetable, so as well that felt quite unedible... :eek:

Heh, be careful at Chinese restaurants. Most real chinese restaurants don't understand the concept of "vegetarian", they think you can still eat white meat. Ask for the "Buddhist" menu and then they'll actually understand what you mean :)

[vniow]

Hate to bump this, but its sorta related...

Holy crap, I just lost about ten pounds!http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=251718


This is wierd because I haven't been doing too much physical labor or anything, just walking my fat poodle up and down the street daily for a few weeks, but that's not exactly a very tiring task, I haven't weighed myself in awhile though so I thought I'd lust give it a shot for the hell of it and wow.

No wonder all my pants have been sagging as of late...

[Stelliform]

Originally posted by vniow
Hate to bump this, but its sorta related...

Holy crap, I just lost about ten pounds!http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=251718



Congratulations! I guess sometimes it is easier than we think!

I feel so much better since I lost 10 pounds. I just have so much more energy!

[lmalave]

Originally posted by vniow
Hate to bump this, but its sorta related...

Holy crap, I just lost about ten pounds!http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=251718


This is wierd because I haven't been doing too much physical labor or anything, just walking my fat poodle up and down the street daily for a few weeks, but that's not exactly a very tiring task, I haven't weighed myself in awhile though so I thought I'd lust give it a shot for the hell of it and wow.

No wonder all my pants have been sagging as of late...


Sweet!!

Just yesterday I noticed that I could tighten my belt one more notch. So that's one inch down and, uh, several more to go...

[Giaguara]

3 espressos, 3 diet colas ... and now one (small) mushroom. that's all i had today. and water. and going to meet my bf now in a bar .. they / we go to eat .. of course i will tell them i have eaten. :( :(

[Stelliform]

Originally posted by Giaguara
3 espressos, 3 diet colas ... and now one (small) mushroom. that's all i had today. and water. and going to meet my bf now in a bar .. they / we go to eat .. of course i will tell them i have eaten. :( :(
You are going to starve yourself to death!

I am really stressed about money right now, so I have comforted myself with food the last few days. Today I had.

2 soft tacos from Taco Bell (http://www.tacobell.com)
1 chicken grilled stuffed burrito
1 diet pepsi
1 coke
1 vanilla coke
1 chocolate ice cream thingy
half of a Digiorno Pizza
3 glasses of milk

:(

When I am dieting right I eat

Half of a wrap sandwich from Roly Poly (http://www.rolypolyusa.com) (On wheat)
1 sun riser combo from Krystal (http://www.krystal.com)
8 oz of Orange juice
and a light dinner (Whatever the wife is cookin)
2 cups of milk. (it does a body good. ;))
(And I exercise)

[Moxiemike]

I recently had a series of surgeries done for a sleeping disorder (a variant of apnea) which entailed deviated septum correction, tonsillectomy, adenoid removal, turbinate removal and a uvulectomy (sp?)

As such, I was on the italian ice and beef broth diet. I lost 25 pounds over two weeks (sometimes I would just ditch "eating" completely and subsist on iced tea) but have since then gained five or six back.

but it was JUST the start that I needed. Plus, since not being able to eat for that period, my appetite seems to have changed. Whereas before I could go to this mexican joint and eat and eat, now i can BARELY finish the meal.

So hopefully that, combined with a half hour of treadmilling, half hour of rollerblading and my three daily walks/cigarette breaks will help me whittle down the excess even more. :D

So yea. I think the commentary about "life changes" is completely spot on.

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Stelliform
When I am dieting right I eat

Half of a wrap sandwich from Roly Poly (http://www.rolypolyusa.com) (On wheat)
1 sun riser combo from Krystal (http://www.krystal.com)
8 oz of Orange juice
and a light dinner (Whatever the wife is cookin)
2 cups of milk. (it does a body good. ;))
(And I exercise)

My daily diet consists of:

Breakfast: bagel, yogurt, and coffee

Lunch: Sandwich (usually turkey or tuna) with a side of carrots. Usually I eat 1/2 the sandwich and eat the rest a couple hours later

Dinner: pre-workout I drink a Ripped Force (usu. fruit punch flavor, tastes good) and then post-workout I have 2 Balance bars. Man, those balance bars are yummy.

[Giaguara]

adding to today's .. umh "meals" : 2 beers, half a mouthful of rice, 4 small slices of pickled jalopeños with something that tasted between guacamole and wassabi, over it. :(

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Giaguara
3 espressos, 3 diet colas ... and now one (small) mushroom. that's all i had today. and water. and going to meet my bf now in a bar .. they / we go to eat .. of course i will tell them i have eaten. :( :(

Well at least I hope you had something to eat with your bf...

You should make sure you're getting enough nutrition. I like eating Balance Bars - only 210 calories and it's like eating a yummy multivitamin. At least make sure you're getting enough iron and calcium :)

[Giaguara]

that's what i ate today. tomorrow .. diet colas, more espressos but avoiding too many to not feel too nervous, running some miles (the swimming pool is still closed but i will get a 5 month ticket that i use every day), maybe again a mouthful of rice .. and if we go out, a salad with no dressing. and lemon. :rolleyes:

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Giaguara
adding to today's .. umh "meals" : 2 beers, half a mouthful of rice, 4 small slices of pickled jalopeños with something that tasted between guacamole and wassabi, over it. :(

Hmm...you should really eat more. Eat food high in nutrients, then imagine those nutrients flowing into your muscles and bones and being turned into...POWER!!

[janey]

you people and your diets scare me...
breakfast: nothing
lunch: bag of chips and fruit salad
dinner: 1/4 of a large cheese pizza from papa john's
:) :D :p ;)

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by lmalave
Hmm...you should really eat more. Eat food high in nutrients, then imagine those nutrients flowing into your muscles and bones and being turned into...POWER!!

i ate more sunday ... brunch: an americano (no sugar) and strawberries .. later diet code reds, in the evening some of grilled seafood combo, 1 glass of wine, salad with lemon and vinegar as only dressings ... and i stayed awake till 5 am cos my bones were hurting. :rolleyes:

i know i should eat at least 1200 kcals a day to burn something .. at least i'm not alone, so i (can and do) skip lunch but i'm normally forced to have some dinner even when i say i ate already. if i was alone i'd skip dinner as well.

[eyelikeart]

I hate to be the one to point it out here, but it seems like there's a contest to see who can freak out people more by pointing out how much they do not eat. It concerns me, which I'm sure will be no surprise, that we're faced with these realities.

[wdlove]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
I hate to be the one to point it out here, but it seems like there's a contest to see who can freak out people more by pointing out how much they do not eat. It concerns me, which I'm sure will be no surprise, that we're faced with these realities.

Thank you eyelikeart, your concerns are valid. Medically it is reccomended that you only loose 1 - 2 pounds per week. Breakfast is a very important meal. It would be better to eat more at lunch, then a light dinner. It's after dinner that activity slow down, so any nutrition that is not used will be converted to fat. Very important to eat a balanced diet! This way you would be able to maintain weigth loss long term! ;)

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
I hate to be the one to point it out here, but it seems like there's a contest to see who can freak out people more by pointing out how much they do not eat. It concerns me, which I'm sure will be no surprise, that we're faced with these realities.

Man. For everyone who is starving themselves.... i'd LOVE to see what would happen if they COULDN'T eat (jaw injury.surgery or the crap I went through with the liquid diet)

You'll be hankering for three good solid meals in no time. Sheesh.

It amazes me that Americans think that they have to starve themselves. It's sad really

[eyelikeart]

Thanks for the supportive replies wdlove & moxie. ;)

It's true though, I think there's a serious lack of education when it comes to health & dieting in this country. I put heavy blame on the fast food industry, combined with all of the crap that's marketed to children, and also the lack of knowledge in many homes. I understand there's a huge problem in terms of convenience & time for many parents to maintain healthy diets for their children, but damn. It's no wonder why there's so many people who are unhappy with their bodies; society paints this false picture of what "beauty" really is, and it leaves most people questioning themselves. :(

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
Thanks for the supportive replies wdlove & moxie. ;)

It's true though, I think there's a serious lack of education when it comes to health & dieting in this country. I put heavy blame on the fast food industry, combined with all of the crap that's marketed to children, and also the lack of knowledge in many homes. I understand there's a huge problem in terms of convenience & time for many parents to maintain healthy diets for their children, but damn. It's no wonder why there's so many people who are unhappy with their bodies; society paints this false picture of what "beauty" really is, and it leaves most people questioning themselves. :(

Fast food is definitely a major problem. With the possible except of Einstein's bagels, and MAYBE some wendy's when i'm, um.... smoked, i think all fast food is crap.

I know people who eat cereal for breakfast (nice start) and then have McDonald's for lunch and taco bell for dinner. These cats are professionals who make decent salaries. It's not college anymore!

People i've worked with did this. I would go to this rockin' greek restaurant. Or have Pan Asian or Thai food for lunch. Or, shudder, walk around town with my digital and maybe have a small order of some sort of noodles.

And cats wonder why heart disease, etc run rampant.

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by Moxiemike
I know people who eat cereal for breakfast (nice start) and then have McDonald's for lunch and taco bell for dinner. These cats are professionals who make decent salaries. It's not college anymore!


ick...that is pretty sad. :(

I eat a small breakfast usually, bagel & coffee with a mix of some fresh fruit. I have a decent lunch, a sandwich with some lean met & maybe a mix of veggies along with it. Dinner is along the same lines as lunch, nothing too heavy though. I also keep protein bars & granola bars with me for snacking between meals. I feel like I eat all throughout the day, but can barely keep weight on when I gain it. I gained 10lbs last year, and ended up slowly losing it all over the course of the past 7 months.

I don't eat any fast food, save for Subway. I don't usually eat fried either, and am not a terribly bad sweets person either. I do have a terrible jones for chocolate though, and I'm definitely down with all ethnic foods. I'm also a wine & coffee lover, and I need my diet cokes everyday. ;)

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
ick...that is pretty sad. :(

I eat a small breakfast usually, bagel & coffee with a mix of some fresh fruit. I have a decent lunch, a sandwich with some lean met & maybe a mix of veggies along with it. Dinner is along the same lines as lunch, nothing too heavy though. I also keep protein bars & granola bars with me for snacking between meals. I feel like I eat all throughout the day, but can barely keep weight on when I gain it. I gained 10lbs last year, and ended up slowly losing it all over the course of the past 7 months.

I don't eat any fast food, save for Subway. I don't usually eat fried either, and am not a terribly bad sweets person either. I do have a terrible jones for chocolate though, and I'm definitely down with all ethnic foods. I'm also a wine & coffee lover, and I need my diet cokes everyday. ;)

I remember your obsession with the protein and granola bars from the FLUX visit. Hehe.

I also remember that big-a$$ bottle of jog wine... may she rest is peace.

I generally do special K for breakfast and on weekends i'll do waffles with cream and strawberries with a glass of wine.

For lunch, tuna on top of salad. Or Some sort of sammich on a bagel.

Dinner is usually heavier. The drinking was my downfall......

[sillymacgirl]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
It's no wonder why there's so many people who are unhappy with their bodies; society paints this false picture of what "beauty" really is, and it leaves most people questioning themselves. :(

Movie stars, models, magazines, etc. don't help either by airbrushing, using special lighting, makeup and such. This was an article done a few months ago that I think everyone should see. I'm sure that just about everyone here has seen the movie True Lies. Well, Jamie Lee Curtis did True Thighs...to show what a difference 'touching up' of photos, etc. can make. Here's the link...

True Thighs (http://ww4.lhj.com/lhj/story.jhtml?storyid=/templatedata/lhj/story/data/jamieleecurtistruethighs_08212002.xml)

On another note...a diet will almost never succeed...a lifestyle change will. And it's been proven over and over again, that rapid weight loss leads to even more rapid weight gain, and to the excess of the loss. In other words, if you quickly lose 20 pounds, you'll very likely gain back 30 pounds in less time then it took to lose the 20. Take it slowly, make small changes to your meals at first (i.e.-drinking lowfat milk rather then whole, ordering baked or broiled chicken rather then fried, etc.) and also, exercise. Exercise is the key to any healthy lifestyle. A person with a sedentary lifestyle can benefit greatly from even a brisk, 5 minute walk a day. :)

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by Moxiemike
I remember your obsession with the protein and granola bars from the FLUX visit. Hehe.

I also remember that big-a$$ bottle of jog wine... may she rest is peace.


ahh...yes...u will also know that I get quite pissy if I have not eaten in a while... ;)

but yeah...I'm not a big drinker really...I drank a lot last summer...but now there's just no point I feel anymore...

aside from bottles of red at dinner :D

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by Moxiemike
Man. For everyone who is starving themselves.... i'd LOVE to see what would happen if they COULDN'T eat (jaw injury.surgery or the crap I went through with the liquid diet)

You'll be hankering for three good solid meals in no time. Sheesh.

It amazes me that Americans think that they have to starve themselves. It's sad really

well, i'm not american.. yet.

does a 3 week fast with water, some fruit and carrot juices and herbal teas but strictly nothing solid count?

[janey]

Originally posted by Giaguara
well, i'm not american.. yet.

does a 3 week fast with water, some fruit and carrot juices and herbal teas but strictly nothing solid count?
oh my god man you have got to eat more.
it sounds like you're really seriously starving yourself to death.

[Giaguara]

i'm freaking out more of what my bf eats (more that than what i eat or don't) ... so so far (it's far past dinner time) he said he's had (as total today) one banana, one low fat milk shake, one coke and a glass of wine.. :rolleyes:

[scem0]

I ate 3 packages of Ramen Noodles last night, that probably didn't help me lose weight. But I think I get plenty of exercise walking up and down the stairs of my school every day.

[wdlove]

Originally posted by scem0
I ate 3 packages of Ramen Noodles last night, that probably didn't help me lose weight. But I think I get plenty of exercise walking up and down the stairs of my school every day.

scem0, I thought you last night while listening to the "David Letterman Show." The guests on his show were two Apache helicopter pilots captured in Iraq last month. They were held by the Iraqis for 21 days, they described their ordeal. Very brave soldiers, men to be proud of as Americans. David Williams & Ronald young, Jr. both Chief Warrent Officers in the Army.

David had each of them tell something about themselves. Ronald said that he grew up in Georgia. Attended a Junior College for two years. Here is the part for you scem0. Ronald said, "I got tired of eating Ramen Noodles, so I joined the Army." :p

[wdlove]

Along with your summer dieting and activity some information to keep in mind. Those thought to be previously safe are now at risk for hypertension. Please both female & male should read this aticle. BP >120/80 now considered Pre-hypertension, doesn't need medication!

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/15/health/15BLOO.html?tntemail1

[Giaguara]

no idea what my tensions are ... except every time i end up in the hospital that's one of the things they freak out. low? high? i get weird energy drops like if my sugar levels fall suddenly to 0 and i feel bad but no idea whether that has to do with sugar levels, fm or tension etc ... :rolleyes:

more sex and the summer pass for swimming pool and i will burn a lot more kcals.. :p

[Giaguara]

i saw the article now. i guess my tension is low then... kidney problems yes so they would have forced me to do something if it was high..?

[wdlove]

Originally posted by Giaguara
no idea what my tensions are ... except every time i end up in the hospital that's one of the things they freak out. low? high? i get weird energy drops like if my sugar levels fall suddenly to 0 and i feel bad but no idea whether that has to do with sugar levels, fm or tension etc ... :rolleyes:

more sex and the summer pass for swimming pool and i will burn a lot more kcals.. :p

It's important for your own health to know what your blood pressure, cholesterol, and blood sugar levels are! ;) An educated consumer will get better health care. So many of the diseases can be controlled by diet!

[lmalave]

....many to go.

Hmm...I'm at about a 3 lb./week pace, which is faster than I'd like, but I'm not complaining. At this rate I should be able to lose another belt notch within days. Roughly speaking for me 5 lbs. = 1 inch around the waist. I'll be satisfied if I lose 2 more inches, happy if I lose 3 more, and ecstatic if I lose 4 more...

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by wdlove
It's important for your own health to know what your blood pressure, cholesterol, and blood sugar levels are! ;) An educated consumer will get better health care. So many of the diseases can be controlled by diet!

for my health, i know how to keep the heart (and kidenys) from not exploding again, and how to keep me ok with fibromyalgia .. dang. adding more than 1 think to keep an eye in makes me feel like i was 80... i don't feel those limiting my life as long as it's me that cooks (and decides how much not to eat) but .. ... .. :rolleyes:

[Stelliform]

Well I have faltered on my diet / exercise. I have pretty much stopped because of some excess stress I am going through at work. :( But I have one last thing hanging over my head, and that will hopefully be resolved Monday. They I will go back on the diet. I have gained back 2 pounds in the last two weeks, so I am not too disappointed.

[wdlove]

Originally posted by Stelliform
Well I have faltered on my diet / exercise. I have pretty much stopped because of some excess stress I am going through at work. :( But I have one last thing hanging over my head, and that will hopefully be resolved Monday. They I will go back on the diet. I have gained back 2 pounds in the last two weeks, so I am not too disappointed.

I'm sorry to hear about the stress in your life. Try taking some slow deep breaths. Don't be too hard on yourself, Stelliform. ;)

[Tequila Grandma]

Hmmm, dieting, eh? I used to be fat, but I lost weight, and now I have just about the most perfect body I could hope for (six pack and all ^_^), but because I was so lazy, it took me about 3 years to lose a mere 35 pounds :eek: (I went from 160 to 125)

So, yeah, I've found that for maintaining my weight, running 5 miles every other day and not eating too many fatty things (or too much food altogether) works for me.

Arigato,
Brook

[Giaguara]

i felt the last month or so today, was about to pass out .. so, after that strawberries, huge salad with some green cheese .. now 2 caipirinhas (lime juice, cane sugar, ice, cachaça) and i feel gross.. :(

[Stelliform]

Originally posted by wdlove
I'm sorry to hear about the stress in your life. Try taking some slow deep breaths. Don't be too hard on yourself, Stelliform. ;)

Thanks for the sympathy. The stress will pass, I am just waiting for one check to get in my hands from a client then I will be ok. (And they told me that they mailed it wednesday.)

If it comes tomorrow I will get back on my diet Tuesday. (After one day of celebrating. ;))

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Giaguara
i felt the last month or so today, was about to pass out .. so, after that strawberries, huge salad with some green cheese .. now 2 caipirinhas (lime juice, cane sugar, ice, cachaça) and i feel gross.. :(

Hmm...well you certainly shouldn't feel gross. Nothing you ate was bad. Perhaps you should consider a more balanced diet? Try eating more legumes. Maybe a yummy lentil soup. Or how about some hummus?

Or I still say Balance bars are great - I eat 2 every day.

[wdlove]

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Poll: When it comes to fruits and veggies, do you eat 5 a day? Most days I get 'five a day.' but notr every day. 50%

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Yes, fruits and veggies are the centerpiece of my diet. 20%

Total Vote 11,229

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[eyelikeart]

Balance Bars are quite tastey, but I wouldn't recommend them to anyone who isn't very active; that's quite a lot of calories to add to anyone's diet who is fairly sedentary.

Bananas are a very good supplement to a diet, and very healthy for u as well. Honestly, fresh fruit is a better alternative to most individuals whose bodies do not need all those extra nutrients. ;)

[Tequila Grandma]

Eck, I can't at all stand Balance bars. My father buys them for who knows what reason and they're awful. Clif Bars are, and will always be, the kings of the nutritional energy bar field. They're filling, and not a single flavour isn't delicious.

Arigato,
Brook

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Tequila Grandma
Eck, I can't at all stand Balance bars. My father buys them for who knows what reason and they're awful. Clif Bars are, and will always be, the kings of the nutritional energy bar field. They're filling, and not a single flavour isn't delicious.

Arigato,
Brook

Hmmm...I tried Clif once, didn't enjoy it that much. I like Balance better though, it's basically vitamin-fortified candy :)

That Peanut Butter flavor tastes like Reeses peanut butter filling. Caramel Nut Blast tastes pretty much like a Snickers. Lemon Meringue is quite tasty too.

[edit] p.s. what does "arigato" mean?

[lmalave]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
Balance Bars are quite tastey, but I wouldn't recommend them to anyone who isn't very active; that's quite a lot of calories to add to anyone's diet who is fairly sedentary.

Bananas are a very good supplement to a diet, and very healthy for u as well. Honestly, fresh fruit is a better alternative to most individuals whose bodies do not need all those extra nutrients. ;)

Well, I'm using Balance bars as a meal replacement which means they're quite low in calories (only 210 calories each). My daily routine consists of going to the gym after work, and drinking a Ripped Force fruit punch flavor (100 calories) right before my workout. Then immediately after my workout I scarf down 2 Balance bars (420 calories total), and I don't eat or drink anything besides water for the rest of the day.

It really works, dude. The fat is just melting away. I'm starting to sculpt some pecs again out from underneath my layer of man-boob :D

[Giaguara]

lmalave, i should be balanced.. veggies, rice, casual fish. sometimes some cheese and low-fat dairy roducts. no meat or chicken etc, and nothing that has wheat .. and i don't want to eat more.
the pool will open next week. 1-2 hours a day swimming will help me stay linear.

[sillymacgirl]

Originally posted by lmalave
Well, I'm using Balance bars as a meal replacement which means they're quite low in calories (only 210 calories each). My daily routine consists of going to the gym after work, and drinking a Ripped Force fruit punch flavor (100 calories) right before my workout. Then immediately after my workout I scarf down 2 Balance bars (420 calories total), and I don't eat or drink anything besides water for the rest of the day.

It really works, dude. The fat is just melting away. I'm starting to sculpt some pecs again out from underneath my layer of man-boob :D


I hope you've read up on what you are drinking before you started drinking it. Ripped force has a good bit of ephedrine in it. That alone causes an elevated heart rate...combine that with a workout that raises your heart rate even more and you could be headed for trouble. I used to take Ripped Fuel (even though I'm a girl and it is used for body building, I took 1/6 of the dose to aid in weight loss) and although it does help tremendously, I found out while my father was in the hospital after he had a heart angiogram that ephedrine can be deadly to anyone, especially those who have a family history of heart problems. So even though excess weight is bad for your heart and general health, ephedrine is even worse. I don't mean to sound preachy, just offering a bit of advice. :)

[eyelikeart]

Clif Bars are very deelish...esp the Ice Series with espresso beans! :D

[lmalave]

Originally posted by sillymacgirl
I hope you've read up on what you are drinking before you started drinking it. Ripped force has a good bit of ephedrine in it. That alone causes an elevated heart rate...combine that with a workout that raises your heart rate even more and you could be headed for trouble. I used to take Ripped Fuel (even though I'm a girl and it is used for body building, I took 1/6 of the dose to aid in weight loss) and although it does help tremendously, I found out while my father was in the hospital after he had a heart angiogram that ephedrine can be deadly to anyone, especially those who have a family history of heart problems. So even though excess weight is bad for your heart and general health, ephedrine is even worse. I don't mean to sound preachy, just offering a bit of advice. :)

Thanks for the advice :)

But yeah, I read the contents. Ripped Force has an astounding amount of caffeine, too. To be honest I usually don't push myself that hard on the aerobic workout. Usually keep my heart rate around 140, which is quite moderate. Plus I was fortunate to inherit a fantastic constitution from my mother and her father. My grandpa worked on his farm 'til he was past 80 (he's still kicking at 91). And we're not talking just sitting on a tractor. We're talking climbing up and down tropical jungle hills, with a machete as his primary agricultural tool.

[wdlove]

The problem with ephedrine. All the information you need to make a decison about it's use!

http://www.ephedrine-ephedra.com/

[Giaguara]

yuk. i feel bad. wearing the same pants i wore 3 years ago, i notice i got like 5 pounds since that ... or that my stomach just feels too often so freaking screwed thanks to £$Y%%&%£ fibromyalgia.. i feel stuck. i want to be completely empty. and i said i won't eat before tuesday, which is worse it's also socially acceptable.. (and tuesday starts the pool period so i'll be there..)... i'm freaking out more than i used to for a long time about eating generally, i just wish i didn't exist at all.. :rolleyes: :(

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by Giaguara
yuk. i feel bad. wearing the same pants i wore 3 years ago, i notice i got like 5 pounds since that ... or that my stomach just feels too often so freaking screwed thanks to £$Y%%&%£ fibromyalgia.. i feel stuck. i want to be completely empty. and i said i won't eat before tuesday, which is worse it's also socially acceptable.. (and tuesday starts the pool period so i'll be there..)... i'm freaking out more than i used to for a long time about eating generally, i just wish i didn't exist at all.. :rolleyes: :( tip: writing in stream-of-consciousness only increases your chances of becoming suicidal.

seriously, i think you should offload to someone in person if you feel like writing like that--not that i don't like it on these boards, or something dumb like that, your tone just worries me. don't stop existing. please.

[Tequila Grandma]

Originally posted by Giaguara
yuk. i feel bad. wearing the same pants i wore 3 years ago, i notice i got like 5 pounds since that ... or that my stomach just feels too often so freaking screwed thanks to £$Y%%&%£ fibromyalgia.. i feel stuck. i want to be completely empty. and i said i won't eat before tuesday, which is worse it's also socially acceptable.. (and tuesday starts the pool period so i'll be there..)... i'm freaking out more than i used to for a long time about eating generally, i just wish i didn't exist at all.. :rolleyes: :(
See, I know exactly how you feel. Weight gain, even in a small amount, can make one feel down and angry. Of course, the part of myself that feels down and angry is not the same part of myself that works to lose the weight. Therefore, the more sad and angry I get, the less I work out. You just need to whip that whiner in you into shape, get on a treadmill, and sooner or later, that pesky whiner will have nothing to whine about.

Also, I'm just assuming you were trying to be overly dramatic with the wording of your post, but if you're seriously considering not existing, I'd advise against it. Talk to people, do things. It's hard for me to sum it all up in a few sentences since it took me about three (or maybe four) years to go from being suicidal to being (for the most part) totally content with every aspect of my life -- but hey, it's possible, it just takes lots of work and personal growth.

Yup :)

Arigato,
Brook

[Giaguara]

the worst in that trying to get into shape (and feeling comfortable) is when everyone else wants you fat(ter). i feel uncomfortable now, and as always, the less i weight, the more i am comfortable with my body (and everyone else freaks out). i want _no_ curves at all in my body. :rolleyes:

[shadowfax]

Wozu?

won't you always have some measure of curves, even when you're nothing but skin and bones? that's no meter for health. maybe those people who you think want you fat really just want you healthy. if you look anything like those pictures you posted, you certainly don't seem to need to be losing much any weight.

[Stelliform]

Originally posted by Giaguara
the worst in that trying to get into shape (and feeling comfortable) is when everyone else wants you fat(ter). i feel uncomfortable now, and as always, the less i weight, the more i am comfortable with my body (and everyone else freaks out). i want _no_ curves at all in my body. :rolleyes:

Giaguara, what you are describing sounds to me like anorexia. I obviously only know you from your posts, but do you think I am far from the mark?

[vniow]

Originally posted by Giaguara
i want _no_ curves at all in my body. :rolleyes:

Can I have them?

[wdlove]

Originally posted by Giaguara
the worst in that trying to get into shape (and feeling comfortable) is when everyone else wants you fat(ter). i feel uncomfortable now, and as always, the less i weight, the more i am comfortable with my body (and everyone else freaks out). i want _no_ curves at all in my body. :rolleyes:

I just hope that you are eating a healthy diet! As long as your are at a normal weight for you height, no one should bother you! How your body looks is up to you! ;)

[tazo]

I wish I didnt have the flab :( I mean like even if I did not have a 6 pack, just to have a somehwat flat stomach would be fine. I just wish I could be my appropriate weight for height. :(

[Stelliform]

When I said I got off my diet for a couple of weeks and I gained s few pounds, apparently I weighed at a bad time or something.

According to my newest readings I have dropped down 15 pounds! That gives me an average of 5 pounds a month! I am pleased with these numbers. I am really excited that I feel like I am not dieting and I am still managing to loose weight. Apparently the lifestyle changes that I still maintain are sufficient for weight loss. (Diet cokes only, stop eating when you are full, don't be afraid to throw away food. Candy only in moderation. Food with nutritional value first....)

I also eat smaller portions and I don't overload my plate.

I just hope this is a permanent change since I still want to lose 30 more pounds. (but I would be happy with 20 more.)

[wdlove]

Originally posted by tazo
I wish I didnt have the flab :( I mean like even if I did not have a 6 pack, just to have a somehwat flat stomach would be fine. I just wish I could be my appropriate weight for height. :(

My hope for you is that you would learn to accept your body the way it is now! It's more important that you learn to eat healthy foods!

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by vniow
Can I have them?

yes. the only 'curves' i want to feel in me are the ribs. away with the rest...

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Stelliform
don't be afraid to throw away food.

hmm.. maybe better to save for leftovers, no? :)

[Giaguara]

Originally posted by wdlove
I just hope that you are eating a healthy diet! As long as your are at a normal weight for you height, no one should bother you! How your body looks is up to you! ;)

i don't want my bmi to be up to 18, for sure. as long as my height is just too high for my weight i feel comfortable. :rolleyes:

[bombensington]

Originally posted by sillymacgirl
Movie stars, models, magazines, etc. don't help either by airbrushing, using special lighting, makeup and such. This was an article done a few months ago that I think everyone should see. I'm sure that just about everyone here has seen the movie True Lies. Well, Jamie Lee Curtis did True Thighs...to show what a difference 'touching up' of photos, etc. can make. Here's the link...

True Thighs (http://ww4.lhj.com/lhj/story.jhtml?storyid=/templatedata/lhj/story/data/jamieleecurtistruethighs_08212002.xml)

wow. thanks for that link. it is so hard to see that "ideal" body in movies/tv and magazines and not feel pressured to try and emulate that. if you're not like 110 lbs you're chunky.

i caught part of a show the other day, this guy was checking out a girl and said, "yeah, she's alright, but a bit too chunky." seriously, this girl was not fat by any means. she could probably have stood to gain a couple of pounds. sick.

anyway, i'm in the midst of the 'lifestyle change.' cutting out any fast food really really helped. i'm glad that most places have salads now...except they trick you by adding bacon, high fat dressing, cheese...so i just go the plain salad route. just cutting out fast food has made a tremendous difference - and before you start in with the 'well that's pretty obvious' stuff...realize that it's harder than you think if you've gotten used to it. and jeesh some of that greasy crap actually tastes good.

right now i'm working out when to eat. i eat only when hungry, except late at night before i go to bed. i don't starve myself...i eat about 6 times a day, but my snacks are fruits or vegetables. if i get a little hungry before dinner time, i just have some carrots which i keep fully stocked.

it's all about baby steps, like someone else mentioned. if you do one major thing at a time and get used to it, you just don't notice it as much. at first i tried to get gung-ho about it, and failed miserably. then after rethinking my plan, i started simple...one day at a time. almost like the 12 steps. "i am not going to have fast food today." "i am not going to drink pop today." it has worked wonders. i can't promise that tomorrow i won't go to wendy's, but today i don't want to.

[vniow]

Originally posted by Giaguara
yes. the only 'curves' i want to feel in me are the ribs. away with the rest...

Wow, that was disturbing...

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by vniow
Wow, that was disturbing...

you're telling me

[iGav]

I'm on abit of a stricty at the mo...

2 weeks ago after a particularly heavy night involving consuming my own body weight in cider and a burger from Tony's, I decided that desperate times call for desperate measures...

So for the last 2 weeks I've been on a serious cut back.. now I don't eat alot of chocolate, never have so that wasn't a prob cutting that out!

But my real tight fitting t-shirt nemesis are crisps (potato chips) love em'... so I've totally cut them out... Also cut back on the beer, only had 2 bottles in the last 2.5 weeks....

No added salt either.

My main diet now consists of...

2 bananas a day
5 pints of water a day
2-3 pints of Skimmed milk a day
Vegetables (no potatos though)
White meat, either chicken or turkey
White rice
Orange or apple juice
Scrambled egg's

Cut out all the junk food, completely... no exceptions, I don't have a sweet tooth so stopping the sweets was easy too!

I have no idea how much I weigh, and I have no idea how much I've lost, and I have no real idea about how much I want to lose... and I'm happy with that! :)

[eyelikeart]

I've been ignoring the cries for attention by specific members in this thread, but I cannot any longer.

If support is what u seek, then this is not the place to come to. It's gone from overweight & slightly tubby geeks from talking about shedding a few pounds for summertime to nearly every other post being containing some sort of shock value.

I'll get flamed or looked upon as insensitive for this, but I'm willing to take that risk. :rolleyes:

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
I've been ignoring the cries for attention by specific members in this thread, but I cannot any longer.

If support is what u seek, then this is not the place to come to. It's gone from overweight & slightly tubby geeks from talking about shedding a few pounds for summertime to nearly every other post being containing some sort of shock value.

I'll get flamed or looked upon as insensitive for this, but I'm willing to take that risk. :rolleyes:

no flames from me. i agree.

this is not the place to come for attention especially when it's about something serious like eating disorders..

[wdlove]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
I've been ignoring the cries for attention by specific members in this thread, but I cannot any longer.

If support is what u seek, then this is not the place to come to. It's gone from overweight & slightly tubby geeks from talking about shedding a few pounds for summertime to nearly every other post being containing some sort of shock value.

I'll get flamed or looked upon as insensitive for this, but I'm willing to take that risk. :rolleyes:

Hopfully from what has been posted in this thread might be helpful. It might cause them to realize that they have a problem. That is all anybody can really do is to suggest that they seek help. It's really up to the person to seek help. Hopefully someone close to them, a person that actually can see their situation will take the initiative to push harder for that person's health!

[eyelikeart]

Well, that's the thing...I doubt there's a lack of knowledge around here. I feel this thread is being used as a scapegoat to get attention without good intentions.

[tazo]

Originally posted by wdlove
My hope for you is that you would learn to accept your body the way it is now! It's more important that you learn to eat healthy foods!

I hate the way I look in some of my clothes, almost always the A&F ones :rolleyes: and it makes me sad that I cannot wear some of the clothes I own, because of how much you can see my love handles :( I have tried dieting, but I plateau and then gain the weight back, unsupportive family does not help either. Hopefully I will keep growing height-wise, and I will even out.

[Stelliform]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
It's gone from overweight & slightly tubby geeks ....

Hey! .... Wait you are right, I guess I am tubby. ;)

Right on about the seeking help. A Mac user forum isn't the place to serious eating disorders.

You really like those health bars Eye? I have always been afraid of stuff that can be bought at GNC. I just don't think I would eat the right stuff.

[wdlove]

Originally posted by tazo
I hate the way I look in some of my clothes, almost always the A&F ones :rolleyes: and it makes me sad that I cannot wear some of the clothes I own, because of how much you can see my love handles :( I have tried dieting, but I plateau and then gain the weight back, unsupportive family does not help either. Hopefully I will keep growing height-wise, and I will even out.

May I ask what is A&F? Many young ladies still have "baby fat," and the growth in height can in many instances can eleviate that problem. I hope that you won't take any offense. Have you talked with someone that you trust, maybe they could offer you some guidance and support. They would be in the position to actually observe you! ;)

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by Stelliform
Hey! .... Wait you are right, I guess I am tubby. ;)

Right on about the seeking help. A Mac user forum isn't the place to serious eating disorders.

You really like those health bars Eye? I have always been afraid of stuff that can be bought at GNC. I just don't think I would eat the right stuff.

he he...well yeah ;)

As for the bars, I tend to keep them handy since I get hunger attacks throughout the day. A lot of those bars contain a lot of good things in them, but can also be high in calories if u are adding them to your diet. I usually go for high protein & lower carb/sugar balances. Another thing to look for is the saturated fat content in them.

[wdlove]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
he he...well yeah ;)

As for the bars, I tend to keep them handy since I get hunger attacks throughout the day. A lot of those bars contain a lot of good things in them, but can also be high in calories if u are adding them to your diet. I usually go for high protein & lower carb/sugar balances. Another thing to look for is the saturated fat content in them.

You are right on the ball their eyelikeart! That is why you stay so trim and fit. Of course your exercie regiment! ;)

[jelloshotsrule]

hey tazo... i'm not sure how big you are. or how overweight... but i think i can actually talk some sense into you... i just don't think this is the place for it. but hey, it's gone this far. i'll risk perpetuating it (right after i posted saying i don't think this is the place for it)

1. do you play any sports for which you get a physical? if you're unhealthily overweight, your doctor should tell you...

2. having been kinda tubby since like 4th grade, i can say that kids can be mean, and dumb. but that's it, it's all dumb. if it's not at an unhealthy level, don't worry about what those kids say.

i would just recommend doing the usual things to diet without actually dieting. just a simple change to eating that doesn't really affect you much, except that you should lose a little weight.

don't eat right before you sleep
stop when you're full (even when it's really really good)
try to minimize the mcdonalds stuff.
drink lots of water


that's about it. word out

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by wdlove
You are right on the ball their eyelikeart! That is why you stay so trim and fit. Of course your exercie regiment! ;)

ha ha...yeah...my metabolism isn't exactly sitting still these days... ;)

I've also been biking nearly everyday...only 4-5 miles each time...but enough to get my heart rate up. :)

[tazo]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
hey tazo... i'm not sure how big you are. or how overweight... but i think i can actually talk some sense into you... i just don't think this is the place for it. but hey, it's gone this far. i'll risk perpetuating it (right after i posted saying i don't think this is the place for it)

1. do you play any sports for which you get a physical? if you're unhealthily overweight, your doctor should tell you...

2. having been kinda tubby since like 4th grade, i can say that kids can be mean, and dumb. but that's it, it's all dumb. if it's not at an unhealthy level, don't worry about what those kids say.

i would just recommend doing the usual things to diet without actually dieting. just a simple change to eating that doesn't really affect you much, except that you should lose a little weight.

don't eat right before you sleep
stop when you're full (even when it's really really good)
try to minimize the mcdonalds stuff.
drink lots of water


that's about it. word out

I certainly got the water part down, thats all I drink, I mean maybe 3 times a month I will have a glass of pepsi. I used to be in baseball but I was never good enough to play high school.

[tazo]

Originally posted by wdlove
May I ask what is A&F? Many young ladies still have "baby fat," and the growth in height can in many instances can eleviate that problem. I hope that you won't take any offense. Have you talked with someone that you trust, maybe they could offer you some guidance and support. They would be in the position to actually observe you! ;)

A&F= Abercrombie & Fitch. And I am not a young ladie, thanks :eek:

[bombensington]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
i would just recommend doing the usual things to diet without actually dieting. just a simple change to eating that doesn't really affect you much, except that you should lose a little weight.

don't eat right before you sleep
stop when you're full (even when it's really really good)
try to minimize the mcdonalds stuff.
drink lots of water


that's about it. word out

so true. i've lost 12 pounds just by following those simple methods and getting moderate exercise. cut the fast food, don't eat late at night...cut the junk food...wait...just ditto everything jello said.

it really is a life change - and it takes a long time. quick fixes don't work.

and besides, a&f sucks. their stores are sooo loud i can barely hear myself think. i go with the gap all the way. orrrr old navy because i'm a cheap bastard.

[tazo]

Originally posted by bombensington
so true. i've lost 12 pounds just by following those simple methods and getting moderate exercise. cut the fast food, don't eat late at night...cut the junk food...wait...just ditto everything jello said.

it really is a life change - and it takes a long time. quick fixes don't work.

and besides, a&f sucks. their stores are sooo loud i can barely hear myself think. i go with the gap all the way. orrrr old navy because i'm a cheap bastard.

I usually go to American Eagle, they are cheaper, made out of the same material as A&F clothes, look cool, and they have the name to go with it. That or I go to JC penney, not that this is a thread that should turn into clothes discussion.

[eyelikeart]

I tend to stick with most of my stuff from Banana Republic...the clothes actually fit me there. ;)

but that's a completely different thread topic...he he...

[Tequila Grandma]

Yucky... Banana Republic is über-dorky (no offense at all meant to you, eye ;) ). A&F has a somewhat cute look to it, but overall, that's dorky too. I think I have a couple pairs of A&F pants, simply because they looked neat and weren't as high in price. I usually prefer DKNY and Armani Exchange - quite stylin' stuff :cool: -- but if I have to go preppy (and hey, sometimes the mood stikes me and I MUST) I'll go for Ralph Lauren.

Oh yeah, and to keep on-topic: I've gained weight from eating big hamburgers for the past three days. Time for me to hit the treadmill and get back down to my precious 125!

Arigato,
Brook

[jelloshotsrule]

what's great is how gap, old navy and banana republic are all just levels of the same company... and how a/f and a/e, along with the other 3 are such great clone factories....

not that all of you are clones... ;)

but seriously. not only do those companies use sweatshops (who doesn't), but you're paying them to do their advertising for them (whoo! look at my a/f 69 hat)... gag me

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
what's great is how gap, old navy and banana republic are all just levels of the same company... and how a/f and a/e, along with the other 3 are such great clone factories....

not that all of you are clones... ;)

but seriously. not only do those companies use sweatshops (who doesn't), but you're paying them to do their advertising for them (whoo! look at my a/f 69 hat)... gag me 69....

i have to say, the advertising is what bothers me most. i wear plaid oxford-type shirts, and gramicci tshirts almost exclusively. labels just piss me off, especially when you can read them from 10 feet away. it's like being your own clothing's whore. anyways, enough from me.

[eyelikeart]

labels...no thanks...

I'm into minimalism...plain colors...mostly dark...

no words or numbers...I'm not a walking billboard...

[Tequila Grandma]

Oh, don't get me wrong -- I'm an expensive clothing whore (If I had enough cash, I'd probably walk around in $7,000 Armani suits every day, and walk with a platinum-plated cane that I'd whack people over the head with just for the hell of it. Oh yeah, and then I'd have my left arm replaced with a robotic arm that constantly carries a bottle of Dom Perignon, and fires the champagne at people when they get in my way. And what the hell, I'll put a 30gb iPod in the robotic arm as well.), I'm not at all a fan of huge labels. I can't think of one piece of clothing I own that has the company's label in huge lettering on the outside.

Also, when I get my robotic arm and platinum cane, I'm also going to have a robotic dog (not unlike the one in Allen's "Sleeper") that's plastered in $100 bills. The dog will walk in front of me and say in it's threattening robotic voice, "Get the hell out of my way, ya schmucks!", so that everyone knows just what to do (to get the hell out of my way) .

I think I'd be a much more bitchin' billionaire then Bill G. ever could.

Arigato,
Brook

[tazo]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
what's great is how gap, old navy and banana republic are all just levels of the same company... and how a/f and a/e, along with the other 3 are such great clone factories....

not that all of you are clones... ;)

but seriously. not only do those companies use sweatshops (who doesn't), but you're paying them to do their advertising for them (whoo! look at my a/f 69 hat)... gag me

What...is...clone...I....not...clone....You shouldn't do that dave..... :p:P

I like American Eagle's simpler clothing, not the **** that says , daves's fried catfish ont he back, you know the variety, I like a shirt that has a simply graphic of the company name on the first stretched across the front, and any non-subjective image on the back. Those are my favorite shirts. I am not afraid of non-name brands either, just today I got a cool shirt from target and one of those like open shirts, its dark blue, its coo. Both of course go with my American Eagle clothes I also got today :D

[tazo]

Originally posted by Tequila Grandma
Oh, don't get me wrong -- I'm an expensive clothing whore (If I had enough cash, I'd probably walk around in $7,000 Armani suits every day, and walk with a platinum-plated cane that I'd whack people over the head with just for the hell of it. Oh yeah, and then I'd have my left arm replaced with a robotic arm that constantly carries a bottle of Dom Perignon, and fires the champagne at people when they get in my way. And what the hell, I'll put a 30gb iPod in the robotic arm as well.), I'm not at all a fan of huge labels. I can't think of one piece of clothing I own that has the company's label in huge lettering on the outside.

Also, when I get my robotic arm and platinum cane, I'm also going to have a robotic dog (not unlike the one in Allen's "Sleeper") that's plastered in $100 bills. The dog will walk in front of me and say in it's threattening robotic voice, "Get the hell out of my way, ya schmucks!", so that everyone knows just what to do (to get the hell out of my way) .

I think I'd be a much more bitchin' billionaire then Bill G. ever could.

Arigato,
Brook

LMAO! :p "Hi I'm Rex...ruff..ruff..." :D

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Tequila Grandma
Oh, don't get me wrong -- I'm an expensive clothing whore (If I had enough cash, I'd probably walk around in $7,000 Armani suits every day, and walk with a platinum-plated cane that I'd whack people over the head with just for the hell of it. Oh yeah, and then I'd have my left arm replaced with a robotic arm that constantly carries a bottle of Dom Perignon, and fires the champagne at people when they get in my way. And what the hell, I'll put a 30gb iPod in the robotic arm as well.), I'm not at all a fan of huge labels. I can't think of one piece of clothing I own that has the company's label in huge lettering on the outside.

Also, when I get my robotic arm and platinum cane, I'm also going to have a robotic dog (not unlike the one in Allen's "Sleeper") that's plastered in $100 bills. The dog will walk in front of me and say in it's threattening robotic voice, "Get the hell out of my way, ya schmucks!", so that everyone knows just what to do (to get the hell out of my way) .

I think I'd be a much more bitchin' billionaire then Bill G. ever could.

Arigato,
Brook

Haha! Awesome. You should be crowned Empress of the World.