xbox 360 vs PS3

[tim2006]

Many post but no polls. which do you prefer based on games, graphics, coolness, etc. Wii is excluded on purpose.

[Dagless]

Voted 360. Most likely the one I'll be getting. Why?

-Cheaper. No way am I spending 450 quid on a system (yea, guess which OS I'm in :D )
-More games. ******* potential. I don't want to look at it thinking "oh in a few years it's going to be great", I want to play games and say "now this is a great game". It's what the gamer in me desires.
-Excellent controller. Really, my wired 360 controller (for PC use) just shipped and I'm damn chuffed.
-fantastic online capabilities.

It's not perfect either.
-no backing up to PC without expensive 3rd party equipment.
-loud DVD drive
-paltry 20gb storage space, for HD shows/games/precaching I'd expect more.
-no built in WiFi
-no SD card support, Microsofts own brand memory card? WTF?! Even the Wii has an SD card slot.
-no game grabbing me at the moment. I am open to this too, I got an original Xbox just for Halo.
-Xbox Live Arcade games, even the 2D plane ones lack charm. It's only a tiny niggle but they look so heavily Photoshopped, so obvious and tacky looking.

[Markleshark]

360 all the way. Adore mine.

[islandman]

I love the 360! :)

[MacRumorUser]

Voted 360. Most likely the one I'll be getting. Why?
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Jimmi you forgot the main thing.

For £360 you get a console + the development XDA tools so you can develop multi versions of Satan Sam and then later next year - you'll be able to share them with the rest of the world via marketplace.

Even the Wii's development set costs a lot more than that :)

Microsoft have given bedroom developers and students a huge boost with this and I'm surprised you havent bought one just for the development kit.



Outside of that. 360 all the way. Given 12 months there will be very few exclusives on the ps3 to justify its price ticket for me.

[Mackilroy]

X360 for me. For one, the PS3 is more than I want to spend, and I already have a 360 with great games.

Looks like MR prefers the Xbox so far. :)

[yoda13]

I have had my xBox 360 for almost a year and there are no games that grab me on the PS3. Even if I could find one at sticker, I wouldn't buy it until a game that was only available for it really spoke to me....:D

Right now, I am hard pressed to find any games that look better on the PS3 than they do on my 360....:)

[FleurDuMal]

360.

Now if only I could find a killer bundle...

[Dagless]

Jimmi you forgot the main thing.

For £360 you get a console + the development XDA tools so you can develop multi versions of Satan Sam and then later next year - you'll be able to share them with the rest of the world via marketplace.

Even the Wii's development set costs a lot more than that :)

Microsoft have given bedroom developers and students a huge boost with this and I'm surprised you havent bought one just for the development kit.


I haven't researched much into XNA, but buying a Wii development kit (after a certain bit of talking with Nintendo and publishers etc) will let you make money off the game, allows for more creative input methods (wiimote or Classic controller) and all that. Size limit is 8.5gb. XNA would be nice for hobbyists but I did all that with PC stuff between 1997 to 2006, next year I'll be heading into a proper gaming career so I'll need more than XNA. The only thing XNA gives me now over what I've previously been doing is the ability to play on Xbox 360 consoles. Hell I limit myself to pixel art on purpose :p not a fan of large photoshop 2D graphics or amateur 3D.

BUT. It does sound very nice. If only it was here 10 years before... which it was with the Amiga (AMOS, Shoot em up Construction Kit, STOS and co.). I can see XNA and sharing online to be particularly huge and very popular.

[count chocula]

360, because of live and the exclusive games gears, halo, and fable 2 (to name a few).

[Markleshark]

360.

Now if only I could find a killer bundle...

Look in GAME. We had Premium 360, GoW and CoD3 for £299

Also play.com has some kick ass ones. :)

Interesting to see tho, a lot of pro 360 votes and comments, but no comments in favor of the PS3. For once I can honestly say I love me some Microsoft.

[yellow]

Well.. I'm a self-confessed Sony Fanboy, but the more I see about the PS3, the less chance I'll be buying one. I also once stated that I saw no reason to put more money into Microsoft's pocket than I already do, but I see myself hurtling towards a purchase of the xPox 360. So... I voted XBox 360.

[greatdevourer]

Look in GAME. We had Premium 360, GoW and CoD3 for £299

Also play.com has some kick ass ones. :)

Interesting to see tho, a lot of pro 360 votes and comments, but no comments in favor of the PS3. For once I can honestly say I love me some Microsoft. Oh yeah - if there's one division of Microsoft that really excels, it's the game division

[Dagless]

Oh yeah - if there's one division of Microsoft that really excels, it's the game division

In a way. They're still the only next gen console to not support gyroscopic controllers. It's like the 360 feels like a second attempt at the Xbox, rather than an entirely new machine.

[Martin C]

LMAO the first guy who replied mentioned more games to back up why the 360 is better. The PS3 just came out no **** there aren't that many games available.

[Markleshark]

LMAO the first guy who replied mentioned more games to back up why the 360 is better. The PS3 just came out no **** there aren't that many games available.

LMAO...

... ****!

What is a console with no decent games to play on it? It's a brick. A fracking™ expensive brick at that.

[greatdevourer]

In a way. They're still the only next gen console to not support gyroscopic controllers. It's like the 360 feels like a second attempt at the Xbox, rather than an entirely new machine. I'd far rather have that than a half-assed rumble replacement gimmick

[clayj]

360, of course.

It's cheaper, it's more flexible, it has a better online experience, its games are waaaaaay better (and there's no evidence that this will change anytime soon), and Microsoft have clearly put more thought into what gamers want vs. Sony's approach of how they can hype it to push some new technology (Blu-ray) that few people want and which adds $200 to the price of the system.

BTW, saw this sign at Best Buy in Charlotte today: "YES!!! WE HAVE PS3's IN STOCK!!!"

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[darkwing]

I bought a PS3 because I've always been a Sony guy. Everything I own is Sony except for my Onkyo receiver and speakers. I just hate MS and don't want to give them any money at all. I'm actually surprised that with all the MS hatred on this forum so many like the 360. :) It's a nice machine but just isn't for me. I've placed plenty of bets with my friends that the PS3 will be #1 like the PS2 was by 2008. I guess we'll just have to wait and see!

I'm enjoying the heck out of my PS3 though. I guess that's all that really counts. I'm saddened by the fact that only a couple decent games will be out in the next 6 months though. Still, I have that stack of unopened PS2 games to get through. :)

[Sheebahawk]

been playing my friends xbox 360, one thing no ones mentioned yet,

xbox does 1080dpi or whatever its called, and the ps3 only does 740 or whatever since japanese tvs dont go to 1080. Correct me if im wrong.

as far as the games go, only thing that really blew me away so far has been call of duty 3


halo 3 is the only future game that really excites me.

[Markleshark]

as far as the games go, only thing that really blew me away so far has been call of duty 3


halo 3 is the only future game that really excites me.

On the 360? I must agree, though 'Lost Planet' and 'Bioshock' look good also, but thats only 3 games in the 'near' future, so not looking good so far.

But yeah, CoD is damn good, GoW as well, one worth looking at. :D

[viccles]

360 all the way baby!

[darkwing]

been playing my friends xbox 360, one thing no ones mentioned yet,

xbox does 1080dpi or whatever its called, and the ps3 only does 740 or whatever since japanese tvs dont go to 1080. Correct me if im wrong.

as far as the games go, only thing that really blew me away so far has been call of duty 3


halo 3 is the only future game that really excites me.

Actually Microsoft had to do a firmware upgrade to allow the 360 to support 1080p because Sony's #1 hype factor was being able to do movies and games in that resolution.

I don't get the whole Blu-Ray vs HD-DVD thing. If you look on Wikipedia, the Blu-Ray page says HD-DVD only does 1080i but the HD-DVD page says both formats do 1080p. :rolleyes:

[GFLPraxis]

been playing my friends xbox 360, one thing no ones mentioned yet,

xbox does 1080dpi or whatever its called, and the ps3 only does 740 or whatever since japanese tvs dont go to 1080. Correct me if im wrong.

as far as the games go, only thing that really blew me away so far has been call of duty 3


halo 3 is the only future game that really excites me.

Both systems can do 1080p.

[greatdevourer]

Actually Microsoft had to do a firmware upgrade to allow the 360 to support 1080p because Sony's #1 hype factor was being able to do movies and games in that resolution. Except nothing on the PS3 can do 1080p yet, not even by upscaling - if you're not on 720p, you're forced into 480p. Iirc, no game for 360 does 1080p, either - it's either de-interlaced 1080i or upscaled 720p

[darkwing]

Except nothing on the PS3 can do 1080p yet, not even by upscaling - if you're not on 720p, you're forced into 480p. Iirc, no game for 360 does 1080p, either - it's either de-interlaced 1080i or upscaled 720p

Ridge Racer 7 and Full Auto 2 are both 1080p native. So is NBA 2007 whatever. (I'm not into basketball games.) I'm sure there are others, too. I just own the first two.

Blast Factor ($8 download game) is 1080p native. So is their "free" Sudoku game. The Gran Turismo HD demo is 1080p as well.

[yellow]

So is their "free" Sudoku game.

Heehee! Sudoku in 1080p! <boggle> :)

[greatdevourer]

Ridge Racer 7 and Full Auto 2 are both 1080p native. So is NBA 2007 whatever. (I'm not into basketball games.) I'm sure there are others, too. I just own the first two.

Blast Factor ($8 download game) is 1080p native. So is their "free" Sudoku game. The Gran Turismo HD demo is 1080p as well. I thought it was only doing 720p as yet. Sounds cool :)

[e²Studios]

Except nothing on the PS3 can do 1080p yet, not even by upscaling - if you're not on 720p, you're forced into 480p. Iirc, no game for 360 does 1080p, either - it's either de-interlaced 1080i or upscaled 720p

Umm, any BD runs in native 1080p, the GT demo runs in 1080p, a few games support native 1080p. Get your facts straight. When will M$ support 1080p, or HDMI.. oh right after a hardware upgrade since the port doesn't even exist.

The PS3 is outselling the 360 by leaps and bounds and I would get used to those margins. Don't give me the "look at in a whole crap" cause if you look at it in a whole, as in 360 vs PS3 sales from the PS3 launch the PS3 is running circles around the 360.

the 360 is a lame duck but trying to get people here to see the actual facts is like talking to a wall.

Enjoy your M$ branded brick.

Stop knocking the titles, the system has been out for a month.. ONE FREAKING MONTH, did you expect 200 launch titles? Most the arguments from the 360 fanboys is baseless garbage, and when you call them on things that have validity they find a way to either downplay it or spin it.

I'm done with these threads, im sure i will lurk but the M$ Fanboyism is far too thick headed in here.

Ed

[greatdevourer]

Umm, any BD runs in native 1080p, the GT demo runs in 1080p, a few games support native 1080p. Get your facts straight. When will M$ support 1080p, or HDMI.. oh right after a hardware upgrade since the port doesn't even exist.

The PS3 is outselling the 360 by leaps and bounds and I would get used to those margins. Don't give me the "look at in a whole crap" cause if you look at it in a whole, as in 360 vs PS3 sales from the PS3 launch the PS3 is running circles around the 360.
Stop knocking the titles, the system has been out for a month.. ONE FREAKING MONTH, did you expect 200 launch titles? Most the arguments from the 360 fanboys is baseless garbage, and when you call them on things that have validity they find a way to either downplay it or spin it. Read the post above you, and I never said movies didn't work in 1080p. And, as you say, it's launch month. Ie, sales different to what wil follow. Wait 6 months, then start giving figures

[darkwing]

Read the post above you, and I never said movies didn't work in 1080p. And, as you say, it's launch month. Ie, sales different to what wil follow. Wait 6 months, then start giving figures

I agree. While I appreciate Ed's enthusiasm for the PS3 I feel he was a touch on the rude side.

I am not sure why people get so upset over these consoles. The only thing you have to fear is the market drying up for your console and having no games for it. I really don't see that happening in the near future for either of the next-gen consoles.

[MacRumorUser]

I'd far rather have that than a half-assed rumble replacement gimmick

Agreed. Some games will work with gyroscope etc, a lot wont suit it at all.
The 360 pad is the 'pinacle' of pad design, refined to almost perfection and I'd rather they keep it that way.

Besides if they all released motion and gyroscopic controllers where would the wii stand then?

[clayj]

I'm done with these threadsGlad to hear it.

The 360 does support 1080p, Ed. HD-DVD playback at 1080p over VGA, DVD upconversion at 1080p over VGA, and games can be played at 1080p over VGA or component. Howzabout you get your facts straight before spouting lies about the 360. Us "fanboys" may bash the PS3, but at least we don't have to resort to lying when we do it. :mad:

[MacRumorUser]

Get your facts straight. When will M$ support 1080p, or HDMI.. oh right after a hardware upgrade since the port doesn't even exist. Ed

Sorry the 360 does support 1080p as others have said. Also the PS3 doesnt have traditional svideo, composite or component ports does it ? It uses a properitary port with which a cable that has different connections is sold.

Just like EVERY CONSOLE, the Xbox 360 also has a properitary port with which a cable that has different connections is sold.

A HDMI cable will be released when M$ decide they need to and have gone on record saying so.
A hardware update is NOT needed.

Not that complicated to get your head around I hope.


And to rub salt into the wound. The 360 can upscale ANY game to 1080p whereas the PS3 lacks any upscaling ability altogether.

[darkwing]

Sorry the 360 does support 1080p as others have said. Also the PS3 doesnt have traditional svideo, composite or component ports does it ? It uses a properitary port with which a cable that has different connections is sold.

Just like EVERY CONSOLE, the Xbox 360 also has a properitary port with which a cable that has different connections is sold.

A HDMI cable will be released when M$ decide they need to and have gone on record saying so.
A hardware update is NOT needed.

Not that complicated to get your head around I hope.


And to rub salt into the wound. The 360 can upscale ANY game to 1080p whereas the PS3 lacks any upscaling ability altogether. So there are more games on the 360 that run in 1080p than PS3 period.

That proprietary port, at least on the PS2, actually outputs the signals for component, s-video, and composite always. The cables that are sold just break out the different pins into connectors. HDMI requires special hardware and a special digital interface. MS won't be able to do that without hardware changes to the system.

I personally do not believe there is any noticeable difference between HDMI and component for video. As long as component can do 1080p (which it can) then I'm happy either way.

I think leaving HDMI off the 360 was a mistake on Microsoft's part, but not as big of a mistake as leaving HDTV off the Wii.

And to rub salt into the wound. The 360 can upscale ANY game to 1080p whereas the PS3 lacks any upscaling ability altogether.

This is true. I think this was a huge mistake on Sony's part. This can be corrected with a system update and hopefully they will.

[greatdevourer]

That proprietary port, at least on the PS2, actually outputs the signals for component, s-video, and composite always. The cables that are sold just break out the different pins into connectors. I think that's what he means, rather than having phono jacks on the back like your VCR would

[Quboid]

Everyone has an Xbox 360 cause it was released a long time ago. But according to game play and game options, i'll give sony the edge on this one.:D

[2nyRiggz]

I'm PS3.

I have both Wii/360 and play them to death but I'm still so interested in that black shiny grill:)



Bless

[MacRumorUser]

I think that's what he means, rather than having phono jacks on the back like your VCR would

That is what I meant, I was trying to say to Ed H. that the 360 is exactly the same as all the others.

And the output on the 360 does support digital, so therefore a HDMI cable will be released when M$ see fit.

[FleurDuMal]

In a way. They're still the only next gen console to not support gyroscopic controllers. It's like the 360 feels like a second attempt at the Xbox, rather than an entirely new machine.

I'm pretty glad that the 360 didn't incorporate Wii-type controller innovation. Although this may be like Devil's Gospel to some people around here, the decision to give the Wii the control system it has has been far from vindicated yet, and will remain so until it has demonstrated that it can be incorporated into every genre.

On the slim chance that the motion sensing system employed by the Wii fails to live up to its hype, I'll be pretty glad that MS were more conservative and decided not to implement it in this generation.

[SpankyPenzaanz]

what nobody mention mass effect or brothers in arms


and as to remark about hate for ms - for me it is a repulsion of winodws rather than ms itself

[Dagless]

Everyone has an Xbox 360 cause it was released a long time ago. But according to game play and game options, i'll give sony the edge on this one.
um. what? A system alone does not provide "gameplay", gameplay is strictly software based that uses hardware. Nothing more. What gameplay does the PS3 have over the 360? From what I've read the current games play nothing different to last gen games. Game options? If you mean library, then the 360 has it covered. If you mean options... what like? Difficulty, GUI colour, what?

I'm pretty glad that the 360 didn't incorporate Wii-type controller innovation. Although this may be like Devil's Gospel to some people around here, the decision to give the Wii the control system it has has been far from vindicated yet, and will remain so until it has demonstrated that it can be incorporated into every genre.

On the slim chance that the motion sensing system employed by the Wii fails to live up to its hype, I'll be pretty glad that MS were more conservative and decided not to implement it in this generation.

It was vindicated with me when I was mowing down enemies in CoD3 and getting incredible precision on the bow in Zelda.
And having played HL2 with the Wii controller I can safely say it works well with FPS games. Is awkward hunched over a keyboard and holding the controller though, really don't work together.

What about the genres that this opens up? RTS games that ruin fluidly on a console, might bring back point and click adventures (YES PLEASE)? Thing about the Wii is that it can do both with the Classic controller, yet still opens up new genres and interesting (quirky?) new ways of playing old genres. I Managed to set it up to play Satan Sam by just tilting the controller left/right for movement, with the right dev and ideas 2D could be given a new breath of life on the system.