pet peeves

[vniow]

Little things that annoy the living crap out if me are:

When the ear of a dog is flipped over its head and the owner does nothing about it, I don't know why, I just want to flick it back every time I see that.

Ingrown hairs, I hate having to manually tweeze them out, more trouble then it should be worth and not too pleasant...

When random keys on my keyboard stick for no reason (like one of the enter keys on my Logitech, although I did spill Coke on it...)

Misuse of they're, their and there or too, to and two, really annoying...

And last but not least, people that are too happy, the sunshiney glow of some people's constant smiles is enough to make me puke...

There's more, but I can't think of any right now, how about you?

[eyelikeart]

when people bite their nails...

when someone talks to me while I'm on the phone...

when some dumbass client challenges my ability by saying he/she "designed" something in Publisher or Word then has the audacity to ask me what program I'm using...

[vniow]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
when people bite their nails...


Oohh..yeah, I forgot that one, although I chew off some extra skin on my hands from time to time...http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=257755

[scem0]

When people use the word 'gay' for things that are obviosly not
happy, bright, or homosexual. :rolleyes: ;)

[applemacdude]

When you talk to a person and they don't listen.

When stupid little ignorant kids at school say "apples" sucks...

[strider42]

people who merge into a lane to their left for no apparant reason (they don't go any faster, aren't passing anyone, they just didn't like the lane they were in). this doubly annoys me when they merge in front of me, and go the same speed they were going, whihc then slows me down.

california drivers when it drizzles. its like they all freak out and don't know how to drive one bit.

People who don't know the right of way rules and end up holding people up because they are afraid to take the right of way they have (or are trying to be ncie by letting someone else go, when it would be faster for everyone if they just went)

groups of people who walk slowly down the side walk side by side, making it nearly impossible for anyone moving faster to get around them. Related to that is people walking anywhere oblivious to others around them, and hold people up by simply stopping in the middle of the sidewalk, walking really, really slowly, or expect you to move to the side when you're coming the opposite direction and make no effort to move an inch themselves.

people on craigslist.com who asy they are going to buy something and come and see it, and then never show up and don't call.

People who heard once that they shuold "pump their brakes" and have no idea what it means, but do it all the time anyway when theya ren't supposed to, or when they have ABS.

People who go enter a freeway at 45 miles an hour.

Common theme here is most of these are transportation related and people holding me up. I guess its the beginnings of road rage, but its not really. Its not like I'm an insane, fast driver, quite the opposite actually (my car wouldn't let me drive that fast anyway), but what it relaly comes down to for me are people who are simply oblivious of whats going on around them and don't care if what they do makes things less safe for others or hold people up without good reason.

[wdlove]

Originally posted by scem0
When people use the word 'gay' for things that are obviosly not
happy, bright, or homosexual. :rolleyes: ;)

That bothers me too scem0. All this political correct nonsense is for the birds. Words should be used according to the dictionary definition. I think that the use of gay is the worst! ;)

People that say they are going to do something and then don't! A persons word should be their bond!

[Rower_CPU]

LOL, strider42, I know exactly what you're talking about. SoCal drivers get so messed up when it rains. It's surreal.

Here's my biggest, and pretty much only, pet peeve: cell-phone drivers.

9 times out of 10, if someone is cutting people off, or driving too slowly, they're on their cell-phone. It's completely ridiculous.

It's not even funny how often I see people on their cells when they shouldn't be:
-People on bikes, trying to steer with one hand
-Just yesterday I saw a guy on crutch (yes, that's crutch singular) trying to walk and talk at the same time. Needless to say, he wasn't making very good progress. :rolleyes:

[vollspacken]

my roommate...

[Sun Baked]

The way things have been going on this site, I'm surprised somebody hasn't said...

Democrats :eek:

But Politically Correct morons are probably the worst. (OOoooh, he made an off color joke -- he's probably racist. :rolleyes: )

[BrittasMac]

People on the internet who substitute the word "of" for the word "have."

[rainman::|:|]

the words 'gay' and 'fag' definitely, people who don't use TURN SIGNALS... kind of like what people said earlier, when people walk around in stores completely oblivious to anyone else, doddling along about a foot a minute taking up the entire width of the aisle; we had this old couple in front of us the other day that SAW us, realized we wanted by, and continued to ignore us... office politics... honor roll bumperstickers... 'defense of marriage' bills... passive-agressive people, mothers-in-law (well, one in particular)... winter... slow people (i know they can't help it, but do they *have* to speak to me?)... weight-loss and get-rich-quick gimmicks... bad coffee... urban legends, spread as fact...

the list goes on and on like that for pages if i typed it out... but you get the idea ;)

pnw

[trebblekicked]

cottage cheese.

[scem0]

Originally posted by trebblekicked
cottage cheese.

good one.

'Fag' annoys me too.

[pseudobrit]

When somebody says "you guys" to refer to a group of mixed sex. Guy is a male term.

If you can call a group of boy and girls "guys," why not "gals?" Oh, right -- it's a bad thing to be a girl, and all the boys would get offended. :rolleyes:

[pseudobrit]

Originally posted by vniow
When the ear of a dog is flipped over its head and the owner does nothing about it, I don't know why, I just want to flick it back every time I see that.

LOL Our family has had two Samoyeds over the last 17 years. When they're young pups, both ears fold over (not enough cartilage yet), and as they age, one or the other will go upright before the other, so they look lopsided. It's the cutest thing.

You can see some photos at www.samoyed.org or www.samoyed.com

Oh yeah -- another pet peeve -- cat people!

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by pseudobrit
When somebody says "you guys" to refer to a group of mixed sex. Guy is a male term.

If you can call a group of boy and girls "guys," why not "gals?" Oh, right -- it's a bad thing to be a girl, and all the boys would get offended. :rolleyes: if you took the time to examine the history of the english language, you would find that "he," and not "she," is the pronoun for use when referring to a person oof indeterminate gender. this flows over to little phrases like that one. it's not a sexist thing, it's a linguistic thing, and the fact that it bothers you, i believe, reflects your own personal agenda. what pisses me off is when someone says "y'all" to refer to a group in the second person. "you all" is cool, as is "you."

i also hate it when people don't really listen when i am talking, or break the conversation in the middle to go talk to someone else. there is no better way to say you have no respect for someone.

i also hate "brang." it's brought, for god's sake! it shocks me how many people i am around use thins non-word.

[Edot]

Originally posted by pseudobrit
When somebody says "you guys" to refer to a group of mixed sex. Guy is a male term.

If you can call a group of boy and girls "guys," why not "gals?" Oh, right -- it's a bad thing to be a girl, and all the boys would get offended. :rolleyes:

You probably can't stand the Spanish language then either:D I'm sure THERE are other languages, that use male doninance in targeting groups of mixed sex, TOO. It's probably just something that was decided or evolved long ago when males were considered the superior(dominant) group. Actually I have no idea why it is that way. I am just guessing.:D

[pseudobrit]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
if you took the time to examine the history of the english language, you would find that "he," and not "she," is the pronoun for use when referring to a person oof indeterminate gender.

But a specific group of people is not of indeterminant sex.

If you're talking about an imaginary or hypothetical person, the correct way to do it has traditionally been to ascribe a male gender to them, yes, but a crowd of people would certainly not be referred to by a blanket gender. You never heard a crowd referred to as "gentlemen," it was always, "ladies and gentlemen."

There are no politics in this. I get this pet peeve from my mother, who has a masters in English and is a teacher.

[janey]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
LOL, strider42, I know exactly what you're talking about. SoCal drivers get so messed up when it rains. It's surreal.
socal drivers "appear" to be wussies when it rains...but we do have a legit excuse!!! there are a lot of cars and what happens when it rains is the oil from the cars and grime and stuff mix with the water from the rain and since oil floats on water, the roads get very slippery and become very hard to drive on. in reality we're more cautious then you think...

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by pseudobrit
But a specific group of people is not of indeterminant sex.

If you're talking about an imaginary or hypothetical person, the correct way to do it has traditionally been to ascribe a male gender to them, yes, but a crowd of people would certainly not be referred to by a blanket gender. You never heard a crowd referred to as "gentlemen," it was always, "ladies and gentlemen."

There are no politics in this. I get this pet peeve from my mother, who has a masters in English and is a teacher. i will admit that "you guys" to a mixed group is informal, but it doesn't bother me still. i mean, i would be peeved if a friend of mine addressed the group as "ladies and gentlemen" like it was a circus act or a public performance. and "you people" seems rather insulting, depending on the tone. i think that "guys" has really come to lend itself to that whole group image.

Dictionary.com seems to be on my side:
guy
n.
1. Informal. A man; a fellow.
2. guys Informal. Persons of either sex.

[pseudobrit]

It's slang at best. Would you object if your friend addressed your group as "You gals?"

What's wrong with "folks?"

[GeneR]

Anything that demeans people of race, color, ethnicity, sexual orientation, social class, etc. Having grown up with a pretty liberal view on life, I think people should be taken for who they are and not judged for the difference.

While being straight, I am very offended by people who attack gays and minorities, because if I didn't have help from so many people from all the different groups throughout my life and especially during the darker times, I think I would have been a lot worse off.

I've been blessed to see the good hearts in so many people -- regardless of race or sexual orientation -- who simply tried to make life a little bit better for other people. I am constantly inspired by those examples and, as a result, aspire to be a better person.

I fight my tendencies to be negative by trying to be a sun-shiney person. Even if I don't feel that way all the time, I would rather make someone laugh that make them frown.

[scem0]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
[B what pisses me off is when someone says "y'all" to refer to a group in the second person. "you all" is cool, as is "you."
[/B]

WHAT?!?! You live in Texas! :eek: ;) :D

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by scem0
WHAT?!?! You live in Texas! :eek: ;) :D i KNOW, man, that's what makes it so unbearable (well, that and the heat/humidity, and the chronically low IQs, and...)

[scem0]

I don't mind if y'all say 'y'all'. I use it quite often :D. 'You all' sounds
so proper and 'you' just seems very singular to me. So I use y'all.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by pseudobrit
It's slang at best. Would you object if your friend addressed your group as "You gals?"

What's wrong with "folks?" there's nothing wrong with "folks." that works fine. but understand that "guy" in the most basic sense that you are accepting (to denote "males") is ALSO informal and slang at best. "Gals" is too: from Dictionary.com again:
gal
n.
1. Informal A girl.and surprise, there is no entry for "gals" as a mixed group like for "guys." it's not an accepted way of saying things, not even as slang.

also, i just wanted to make sure that you know i would be just as offended if, say, Tony Blair referred to the British people as "you guys" as i would be if he called them "you gals." slang has its place, as does formality.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by scem0
I don't mind if y'all say 'y'all'. I use it quite often :D. 'You all' sounds
so proper and 'you' just seems very singular to me. So I use y'all. that's when i use "you guys" ;)

and if i feel mean, "you people!"
(e.g., "WTF is WRONG with you people?!")

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by GeneR
Anything that demeans people of race, color, ethnicity, sexual orientation, social class, etc. Having grown up with a pretty liberal view on life, I think people should be taken for who they are and not judged for the difference.

While being straight, I am very offended by people who attack gays and minorities, because if I didn't have help from so many people from all the different groups throughout my life and especially during the darker times, I think I would have been a lot worse off.

I've been blessed to see the good hearts in so many people -- regardless of race or sexual orientation -- who simply tried to make life a little bit better for other people. I am constantly inspired by those examples and, as a result, aspire to be a better person.

I fight my tendencies to be negative by trying to be a sun-shiney person. Even if I don't feel that way all the time, I would rather make someone laugh than make them frown. I see where you're coming from, and i certainly agree that there are a lot of people that are just plain stupid and prejudiced, but i've also been around a lot of people who have a philosophy that, say, there are "bitches" and there are "women." someone who uses derogatory language often associated with racism/bigotry/antifeminism and so on are not necessarily truly prejudiced. i mean, i know people who will in certain situations say "OMG! that idiot parking job! it's a woman!" and then turn around and be talking to a woman and show a great deal of respect to her. and the same goes for other situations with other people. I have some friends who are strongly morally opposed to homosexuality and certainly make unconscious assumptiona about people who are. at the same time, they have a brother who is gay. they never berate him, not ever, they don't even make any suggestions. they would treat him no differently if he were straight.

while i would never want to be like that--to make off-handed comments relating to someone's lifestyle/race/gender--i don't get peeved when others do, usually. it depends on the person and situation, but i can certainly see that people who make those comments are not automatically unintelligent, prejudiced people. i have met plenty of PC people that i would hate to be around and probably have a lot more prejudices they don't talk about than the people i mentioned above.

[GeneR]

I think you make some very valid points, Shadow. I try to take people on a case by case situation. Overall, I find that if I can set a good example and trying to practice tolerance to all people, and make suggestions to those who are willing to listen, it's a better option than to get peeved. But from time to time I do. :D

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by GeneR
I think you make some very valid points, Shadow. I try to take people on a case by case situation. Overall, I find that if I can set a good example and trying to practice tolerance to all people, and make suggestions to those who are willing to listen, it's a better option than to get peeved. But from time to time I do. :D yeah, that's cool. people try to teach you how to deal with "certain types of people" and so forth, but if you follow by that you'll just end up all messed up. i think wisdom comes when you can assess people on a case by case basis and not let those subconscious assumptions you may have about them cloud how you treat them and what you think about them.

[scem0]

It annoys me that the price of the 23 in. apple cinema display is 1 cent cheaper, and amazon makes a big deal out of it. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/1067712/ref=br_bx_c_2_1/102-5107234-9831354)

[NavyIntel007]

Let's see...

People who say macs suck because the last time they used one was in the fifth grade or in my dad's case the Apple 2.

Miami Drivers, tailgaters, agressive supermarket patrons

That guy (or girl) that stands in the front of the clothing store in the mall and asks you if they can help you find something the minute you walk in.

My spelling sucks, so if I misspell something in an IM conversation I really hate being corrected. It's an informal setting and to do so, IMO, is to show superiority

I really really really hate when I go to see my girlfriend in Canada and they flame on Americans as a whole just because I am there. It's hard for me to explain and I know I'm going to get flamed for this one. The US has around a quarter of a billion people spread out over half a continent. It is foolish to try to generalize all of us, it would be like saying " all europeans are..." Dude, it's impossible to generalize a floridian, let alone sitting me next to some ghetto gang banger from Compton and be able to find a distinguishing trait between us other than the country we live in.

Come to think of it, I don't like when anyone generalizes about any group negatively without being there first.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by übergeek
socal drivers "appear" to be wussies when it rains...but we do have a legit excuse!!! there are a lot of cars and what happens when it rains is the oil from the cars and grime and stuff mix with the water from the rain and since oil floats on water, the roads get very slippery and become very hard to drive on. in reality we're more cautious then you think...

As a resident of western Washington, I'd like to say once and for all...

WUSSIES!!!!

What annoys me?

Conformists.

Marxists.

The entire category of people who don't want to be put into a category, even though they are conformist.

Conformist Marxists who don't want to be put into a category.

Pop music.

Taxes.

Perky, stupid people.

The French.

Neoconservatives.

Liberals.

The Green Party.

The Religious Right.

People who have no understanding of economics.

The small minded (covers almost all of the above.)

"I have a right to my opinion." (Thanks for the non-sequitur. I have the right to my opinion too. My opinion is: you're wrong.)

People who are friendly to me, when they hate me. (For God's sake, be honest with me, and don't talk to me, avoid me, ignore me, whatever it takes.)

Software and music piracy.

When people don't get your point, don't understand basic logic, and cannot comprehend basic English, when I am trying to make a point.

Religion.

Arrogant people who have no right to be arrogant. (Some people really have the right to be arrogant. Lots of people don't.)

Probably other things, but I'm out of ideas right now :)

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by NavyIntel007
Dude, it's impossible to generalize a floridian, let alone sitting me next to some ghetto gang banger from Compton and be able to find a distinguishing trait between us other than the country we live in.

Come to think of it, I don't like when anyone generalizes about any group negatively without being there first. like when you call someone a "ghetto gang banger from Compton?" :p

[vniow]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
someone who uses derogatory language often associated with racism/bigotry/antifeminism and so on are not necessarily truly prejudiced.

They may not be, but those comments don't neccecarally help curb racism/bigotry/antifemenism either, when somebody calls something gay for example, like I've seen a few people in these forums call certain topics gay, or the new iPods and gay or whatever and when its being used as a negative like that I not only find it annoying, but offensive, being gay myself.
Little comments like that are unnececary and like I said before, don't help curb bigotry though they don't neccecerally promote it either at a conscious level.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by vniow
They may not be, but those comments don't neccecarally help curb racism/bigotry/antifemenism either, when somebody calls something gay for example, like I've seen a few people in these forums call certain topics gay, or the new iPods and gay or whatever and when its being used as a negative like that I not only find it annoying, but offensive, being gay myself.
Little comments like that are unnececary and like I said before, don't help curb bigotry though they don't neccecerally promote it either at a conscious level. sure. it's a case by case thing, and it's generally not a good thing at all, but i just don't think it's worth getting peeved over, often.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
like when you call someone a "ghetto gang banger from Compton?" :p

There are ghetto gang bangers in Compton :)

However, not all Compton residents are ghetto gang bangers.

Which is why you distingush the ghetto gang bangers from Compton from regular Compton residents by referring to the ghetto gang bangers from Compton as "ghetto gang bangers from Compton". :)

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac that's absolutely hilarious dude. i don't understand what it is about marxists (other than that they have a pretty skewed perception of economics, but that's "my opinion"), but the rest of what you said is right on and really funny. kudos.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
There are ghetto gang bangers in Compton :)

However, not all Compton residents are ghetto gang bangers.

Which is why you distingush the ghetto gang bangers from Compton from regular Compton residents by referring to the ghetto gang bangers from Compton as "ghetto gang bangers from Compton". :) true. good call. i was just messing with him ;)

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
that's absolutely hilarious dude. i don't understand what it is about marxists (other than that they have a pretty skewed perception of economics, but that's "my opinion"), but the rest of what you said is right on and really funny. kudos.

Someone I didn't offend? I'm surprised! You must be a libertarian, because, as I posted, everyone else annoys me :)

Marxists have a skewed perception of everything. :)

[vniow]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
sure. it's a case by case thing, and it's generally not a good thing at all, but i just don't think it's worth getting peeved over, often.

Its worth getting a little peeved for me when other kids threaten to beat you to a pulp for being gay.

Remember kids, dykes aren't 'real' women...http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=251202

[pivo6]

The only one that bothers me the most is people who don't know the difference between well and good.

[vniow]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Someone I didn't offend? I'm surprised! You must be a libertarian, because, as I posted, everyone else annoys me :)

Marxists have a skewed perception of everything. :)

What about members of the PPP?

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Someone I didn't offend? I'm surprised! You must be a libertarian, because, as I posted, everyone else annoys me :)

Marxists have a skewed perception of everything. :) lol. i guess i am pretty libertarian, though i treat politics like the bees' nest it is--and generally avoid it. but that in itself is fairly libertarian, in a way, i suppose.

[Thanatoast]

Television <--- The Bane of America.

Drivers in general. No turn signals, can't find the gas pedal (Dallas), oblivious SUV drivers, adults who say "those teenagers..." when they themselves shouldn't be allowed on the road, petty "you can't pass me" types, and on and on.

Conservatives.

Born-again Christians.

Lemmings (of the human variety).

My upstairs neighbors (two more nights, then I'm free!).

People who say they will do something and then don't.

The Drug War, and other stupid, pointless, "morals" based legislation.

And other things I'm sure I'll think of later.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by vniow
Its worth getting a little peeved for me when other kids threaten to beat you to a pulp for being gay.

Remember kids, dykes aren't 'real' women...http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=251202 exactly. exactly. that would be a case of the person who actually believes his prejudices consciously enough to act on them in a very negative manner. of course you should get peeved when your safety is threatened, or even when someone expresses something derogatory about your lifestyle/whatever to your face.

[NavyIntel007]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
true. good call. i was just messing with him ;)

grrrrrrr...

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by vniow
What about members of the PPP?

The Point-to-Point Protocol only annoys me because dial-up connections annoy me :)

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by vniow
Its worth getting a little peeved for me when other kids threaten to beat you to a pulp for being gay.

Remember kids, dykes aren't 'real' women...http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=251202

while i don't necessarily agree with shadow that offhand comments don't mean much often, keep in mind that he isn't referring to people who'd beat someone to a pulp (or even threaten it) for being gay. he's talking about someone who respects gay people buy happens to say "that's gay" or whatever... at least i think

i have mixed feelings on that type of thing. hm

[etoiles]

Originally posted by strider42
california drivers when it drizzles. its like they all freak out and don't know how to drive one bit.


The problem in California is that while half the people slow down when it rains, the other half speeds up and weaves in and out of traffic because they cannot stand slow drivers.
And as mentioned before, add to this a little bit of dust and oil mixed with water (remember, it does not rain a lot so this thin film builds up) ...kabooom...

What annoys me most are inconsiderate people, people who don't realize they are not alone in this world. That includes people who drive in a bubble ignoring the rest of the traffic, people who keep their seat all the way back during the whole flight, people who do not clean the dryer filter at the laundromat etc....just to name a few

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
while i don't necessarily agree with shadow that offhand comments don't mean much often, keep in mind that he isn't referring to people who'd beat someone to a pulp (or even threaten it) for being gay. he's talking about someone who respects gay people buy happens to say "that's gay" or whatever... at least i think

i have mixed feelings on that type of thing. hm right. mostly. the "this is so gay" thing is not one i had in mind. more like someone who would start using slurs to refer to someone who'd done something to them, like "argh, that ******** bitch hit my car and left before i could get her license plate number!" or something along those lines. there are a lot of factors that come into it. to me it's like swearing. there is a time and place where it's OK, i think. this doesn't necessarily go for everything, but a lot of them.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by etoiles
What annoys me most are inconsiderate people, people who don't realize they are not alone in this world. That includes people who drive in a bubble ignoring the rest of the traffic, people who keep their seat all the way back during the whole flight, people who do not clean the dryer filter at the laundromat etc....just to name a few every day when i leave my house, which is bought, i have to drive a few hundred yards through a curvy street that is lined with duplexes that people rent. I'm not berating those people generally, but literally every single house on that street has 5-6 cars and almost every one has decided to use their garages as storage space for anything but their abundance of vehicles. this means that the already narrow and windy road is lined on both sides with tons of cars, many of them large conversion-van size vans and trucks, most of them no doubt purchased on credit/loan (another idea that, unsecured, i think is rather stupid). this has resulted in a few collisions over the years because people just cannot see others coming the other way, and there is nowhere to go when they come, because there are so many cars on either side of the road. and there doesn't seem to be any codes in the area that prevent this activity.

it peeves me every time i drive through, mostly because i hate having to drive 15 mph in a 30 zone because i'm worried about getting hit, and that i know driving 15 doesn't really help much of anything anyways, becaus a lot of people still fly through at 30 or more anyway.

what a stupid idea, i think, having your car out on the road in suburbia. i've been forced to since i got my own car (living with the parents till the fall), and it got vandalized out there. i've learned my lesson. we're clearing more space in the garage so we can have all our cars in the garage or at least in the driveway.

[voicegy]

What an interesting post...thanks for creating it!

I've always wanted to get a few of my pet peeves off my chest...even some of my own friends don't get why this stuff bugs the heck out of me...but it does, big time!

1. People who push the crosswalk button at an intersection OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN in a vain attempt to speed up the changeover from Don't Walk to Walk. I think this one bugs me the most because it's a combination of common sense issues and technology. The button exists to let the system know to switch over to "Walk" and therefore give more time to the green light for pedestrian traffic. Obviously (well, to ME anyway) it only needs to be pushed ONCE to let the system know that there is a pedestrian present. Why on EARTH people think that if they press it dozens of times that it will make it change faster I have no idea...do they think the system is set up to act like there is some emergency or something, like all of a sudden there are a HUNDRED or so pedestrians that want to cross so it will react to the urgency?!? (please, someone here tell me you GET what I'm saying, or I'll be all alone!):)

2. On nearly the same type of thinking, people who push the button to call the elevator AFTER I have ALREADY pushed it and it is lit up! HELLO!?! It's already LIT UP! It's been "told" to stop at this floor to pick us up! Why did you reach over and push it again?! (I'm not nuts, really I'm not!);)

3. This one gets me every time...people who step off an escalator and STAND THERE at the top staring at everything they see. THERE are PEOPLE behind YOU, moron! Get out of the way!

4. Believe it or not, I do NOT want to hear your private phone conversations, so why are you YELLING into the phone when you're walking down the street or standing next to me? I think number 3 and this peeve, number 4, speak to that awful predaliction of people who think there is no one else within 20 miles of them, which brings us to number

5. Yes, I am a born and raised San Diegan, and if it even LOOKS as if it's going to rain, people go completely APE on the freeway while driving. You get the 90 mile an hour get-me-home-and-out-of-the-rain crowd, and the 30 mile an hour I'm-driving-REALLY-safe-'cause-it's-wet-outside crowd. What's wrong with crankin' down the speed a bit and cruisin' at 50 to 55 if its raining hard and keeping your distance? Which brings me to number

6. I'm driving at a reasonable speed. I'm in a conservative Volvo. Yeah, it's a turbo, but I hardly ever use it. I'm doin' 60-65, and NOT in the "Speed" lane. I like to keep several car lengths in front of me of empty space...simple common sense safety issue. There's hardly anyone on either side of me...plenty of room. And along comes Mr or Mrs SUfriggin'V, barrowling down the freeway doin' 80 or so, and they RIDE MY BEHIND for miles. Why don't they make a bumper sticker that says "There are other lanes available for your convienience." HONESTLY!!!:mad:


(whew, that was fun!):p

[shadowfax]

in austin, what pisses me off is that they basically ASK you to tailgate people. if you give a safe distance between you and the car in front of you, it's almost inevitable that someone will enter the lane between you and the car in front of you. i don't know if this is common everywhere, but people just don't have their heads on straight enough to know where they are going. one minute someone will be in the far left lane on the freeway, and then all of a sudden, in pretty thick traffic, you'll see him start cruising through to the right lane to get off the freeway at the very last possible moment... ugh.

people are such idiots :p (http://maddox.xmission.com)

[vniow]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
while i don't necessarily agree with shadow that offhand comments don't mean much often, keep in mind that he isn't referring to people who'd beat someone to a pulp (or even threaten it) for being gay. he's talking about someone who respects gay people buy happens to say "that's gay" or whatever... at least i think

i have mixed feelings on that type of thing. hm

I see what you're saying and I agree to a point, and I know Shadow wasn't referring to those people who would neccecerally voilently act upon those comments, but I still find those comments to be offensive when they're being used in a negative context like that, I mean its alright when somebody in my circle of friends calls me a dyke or whatever because I know that they're being tounge-in-cheek or whatnot, but if anybody else calls me that (unless they're obviously being sarcastic or something), their ass is mine because I don't know what the meaning behind it is which is why I feel that things like that should be left unsaid unless some kind of previous communication was made or something......bah, ignore me, another pet peeve of mine is people who rant incoherently..http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=251202

[vniow]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
The Point-to-Point Protocol only annoys me because dial-up connections annoy me :)

But by 2k16, you will have no other choice....

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by vniow
I see what you're saying and I agree to a point, and I know Shadow wasn't referring to those people who would neccecerally voilently act upon those comments, but I still find those comments to be offensive when they're being used in a negative context like that, I mean its alright when somebody in my circle of friends calls me a dyke or whatever because I know that they're being tounge-in-cheek or whatnot, but if anybody else calls me that (unless they're obviously being sarcastic or something), their ass is mine because I don't know what the meaning behind it is which is why I feel that things like that should be left unsaid unless some kind of previous communication was made or something......bah, ignore me, another pet peeve of mine is people who rant incoherently..http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=251202 we're all hypocrites to some degree ;)

yeah, it's a complicated issue. just like comedy. some people laugh at a comedy act where people make fun of the habits of certain cultures (which of course tend to fall along racial lines, and most people make the connection). others get bithin' mad. the only conclusion i can draw from that, and that most people do, is that comedy is intended to make some people mad. which is why you have to be careful to only use humor when people who will obviously get offended by it aren't around. for instance, my dad loves humor, but if i were to make a sexual joke around him, he would flip the ****. he finds humor in puns and things. granted, he's not absolutely opposed to ever hearing coarse humor (he loves seinfeld), but i have to be careful around him. boy, i kind of forgot the connection here... i guess, like i said, it's not a good idea to take many people too seriously. to be offended is fine, but if you don't know someone, it really doesn't matter anyway, in my opinion. unless, as we have said, they are threatening you in some way.

[vniow]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
for instance, my dad loves humor, but if i were to make a sexual joke around him, he would flip the ****.

Oh snap, you better not introduce me then!http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=251202http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=258478

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by vniow
Oh snap, you better not introduce me then!http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=251202http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=258478 for a number of reasons, of the which this is probably among the least ;)

of course, i think you like it that way :p

[vniow]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
of course, i think you like it that way :p

Indeed....


http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=257466

[caveman_uk]

My pet conversation peeve is the overuse of either the words 'like' or '*****' or it's derivative forms. For example the expression 'I was like "what?"' translates as 'I said "what?"' and 'She was like completely freaked' where 'like' fills some space in a sentence whilst the speakers brain catches up with their mouth.

The overuse of '*****' occurs quite a lot in the UK and probably other English speaking countries where people with lack of vocabulary use it at least twice in every sentence. Now, I use the word a fair bit myself as it's quite effective for getting peoples attention but using it as a replacement for every other word is just annoying and shows stupidity.

Oh and I hate caravans (small mobile trailer homes typically pulled along very slowly by underpowered cars)...

...and loud cell phone conversations.

...and stupid people.

In the UK we can drive quite well in the rain...we get a lot of it:rolleyes: But a light dusting of snow? Well that's a different story completely!

[Roger1]

My pet peeves
People who wait until the very end of the merge lane to merge (usually without a turn signal):mad:

People who drive across parking lots whichever way they want, rather than following the lanes; cutting between parked cars, etc.

People in the supermarket who manage to take up the entire width of the aisle while looking for their can of soup. I'm 6'1 and 280#, if I can manage to suck it in and let people by, so can they!

People who let their dogs poop in my yard. I pick up after my dog, they can do the same.

Cats that walk on my car. Nothing better than spending an afternoon washing and waxing my car, just to come out the next day and see footprints all over it.

When my wife is right and I'm wrong when we argue. Which is every time we argue. :eek: :D

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
that's absolutely hilarious dude. i don't understand what it is about marxists (other than that they have a pretty skewed perception of economics, but that's "my opinion"), but the rest of what you said is right on and really funny. kudos.

Marx was actually a Capitalist in the most classical sense of the word (his opus magnum is called "Das Kapital", after all). The problem is that back in those days the theory of supply and demand had not been formulated and wouldn't be for a few more decades. Economists at the time thought that prices were based on cost of production alone. Then a couple decades later the theory emerged that demand determined prices. As my Economics professor put it: the classical Capitalists would say that pearls were expensive because men must dive to great depths to obtain them. Demand theorists said that men dove to great depths to obtain pearls because they were expensive. Only later did someone (was it David Ricardo?) get the bright idea that price was set by both supply and demand.

So basically Marxism is based on totally outdated and debunked economic theories, but people continued to latch on to it for political reasons.

Kinda like supply-side theorists today ;)

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
right. mostly. the "this is so gay" thing is not one i had in mind.

Substitute other minority groups and hear how it sounds. How about "that's so Jewish." (something you still hear a lot in the Northeast). To me, making a minority group synonymous with an insult is offensive, period. The only reason "gay" is accepted as an insult is that gays are the only minority that it's OK to bash, because over 50% of the U.S. population still considers it immoral.

BTW, I think this term is somewhat regional. In Oregon I never heard "that's so gay" used as an insult, and I was shocked to hear my friends use it when I moved to the Northeast.

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac

The entire category of people who don't want to be put into a category, even though they are conformist.


Hmmm...sounds to me like you're "conforming" to every word Ayn Rand ever wrote. No one formulates their ideas in a vacuum. At which point would you call someone a non-conformist. I mean, last time I checked, there weren't that many Marxists in this country. In fact there's a lot more Ayn Rand acolyte libertarians who "conform" to almost everything you just said.

[Foxer]

1. Anyone under 22 advancing a political theory. You don't really know, and your views will change. TRUST ME.

2. People who drive on the shoulder, especilly during rush hour.

3. Willfull ignorance. Willfull may be the wrong word, but there are too many people in today's world who could pay attention to waht's going on, and simple choose not to. I hate that.

4. Democrats. Not liberals, I have several liberal friends who have reached their opinions through experience and reason, and I enjoy discussing the world with them more than anything else. Democrats, on the other hand, use sloganeering, half-truths and bankrupt social theories to turn one-half of the nation against the other. It is not a good thing for someone aspiring to lead the nation to openly advocate for one group of Americans against the another.

5. The French. I used to always defend them as our "foul-weather friends:" They moan and are obstiant until the flags go upa dn the chips are down, at which time they are there. But now they obstructed an action which benefitted the world (not to mention many millions of Iraqis) only to protect their own oil companies, and then lied to the world about standing on principles.

6. Newscasters who deliver the news from any position other than behind a desk. I especailly hate the walkers.

7. Speed traps. I used to speed alot, but now I tend to go with the flow - this hasn't warmed me to police on the side of the road. Speed traps are so obviously used simply as a tool to make money. The job of the police is to help ensure safety, but the sudden breaking from 85 to 65 that results from a cop behind an overpass is much more dangerous than simply crusing along steadily. If they really want slower, thus safer, roads, they should be out driving with the traffic.

8. Anti-smoking bills. I am not a smoker. I don't enjoy being around smoke. I agree it is unhealthy. So outlaw it. I feel bad for the poor fools that I see relegated to the loading dock to enjoy a fag. It's legal, so let people do it without humiliation. If the public health conseqeunces are so bad, then why is it legal at all?

9. People who believe that there is no difference between the political parties. SEE NUMBER 3. They're VERY different. Somehow, a segment of the slacker population thinks it's intellgent to say that they're all the same. How can you say that Tom Delay and Maxine Waters have anything in common besides iron-based blood? Well, I guess if your idea of a perfect society is some unibomber, ludite thing or you advocate an anarchic world in which you get to kill people and then keep their stuff - in that case your might view both parties as interchangable.

10. Anti-smoking people who are pro-legalization of drugs. It's inconsistant.

11. "X-treme" anything.

12. Shaving product ads that imply that if I get a close shave I will get laid.

13. Morning Zoo radio shows.

14. People who don't know what the First Amendment means and why it's there

15. Maybe most of all, advertising by monopolies or companies that don't offer products to the general public. Why is my local power company advertising on my radio and TV? I have no options, and I resent the fact that these ads have the practical effect of raising my bill. I understand on another level that it is to increase their positive perception with the public, beacuse they are lobbying to open new plants, but it still irks me.

As my wife says, I have a lot of pent-up anger.

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by Foxer
4. Democrats. Not liberals, I have several liberal friends who have reached their opinions through experience and reason, and I enjoy discussing the world with them more than anything else. Democrats, on the other hand, use sloganeering, half-truths and bankrupt social theories to turn one-half of the nation against the other. It is not a good thing for someone aspiring to lead the nation to openly advocate for one group of Americans against the another.

Here's another pet peeve: people who actually believe that there is a huge difference between the two major American political parties.

They both employ the same underhanded, despicable strategies to win votes. Just because one party's message appeals to you more doesn't mean they're doing anything less "bad" than the other guys. It's just so much pot calling the kettle black...

[strider42]

Originally posted by caveman_uk
My pet conversation peeve is the overuse of either the words 'like' or '*****' or it's derivative forms. For example the expression 'I was like "what?"' translates as 'I said "what?"' and 'She was like completely freaked' where 'like' fills some space in a sentence whilst the speakers brain catches up with their mouth.

The overuse of '*****' occurs quite a lot in the UK and probably other English speaking countries where people with lack of vocabulary use it at least twice in every sentence. Now, I use the word a fair bit myself as it's quite effective for getting peoples attention but using it as a replacement for every other word is just annoying and shows stupidity.



I actually use the word like much to much. Its a habit I'm trying to change. That said, filler words are more than just filler. They've done linguistic studies on spoken languange and "filler" words can often have important linguistic meaning, even if its just "ah", "hmm", or something like that.
While its annoying when like or curse words are used too much (something I'm guilty of sometimes), its certainly not a sign of stupidity, its a sign of a cultural or sub cultural spoken language pattern (ok, and sometimes it's justa product of stupidity)

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Foxer
1. Anyone under 22 advancing a political theory.

9. People who believe that there is no difference between the political parties. SEE NUMBER 3. They're VERY different. Somehow, a segment of the slacker population thinks it's intellgent to say that they're all the same. How can you say that Tom Delay and Maxine Waters have anything in common besides iron-based blood? Well, I guess if your idea of a perfect society is some unibomber, ludite thing or you advocate an anarchic world in which you get to kill people and then keep their stuff - in that case your might view both parties as interchangable.

10. Anti-smoking people who are pro-legalization of drugs. It's inconsistant.


1. guess i will stay out of the political forum for another 5 months then. ;)

9. well, i can't comment on this since i'm not 22. but rower is over 22. so i'll let him speak somewhat for me..

10. actually, it's not. i don't say they should legalize pot and let people smoke it in bars or restaurants except for maybe specific coffee shops that sell it (ala netherlands). people can smoke cigs in their own homes. fine with me. likewise, i think they should be able to smoke pot in their own homes. oh, and by the way, i don't smoke either, just feel that the war on drugs is hurting far more people than it's helping


my peeves:

people who smoke and let their cigs go all over, such that anyone passing near them could easily be burnt. people who smoke and obliviously blow it in peoples' faces. people who throw cig butts on the ground... the only acceptable form of littering i guess

people who drive slow in left lane. people who don't use turn signals.

oblivious people in general. unfortunately, this too often describes my mom... ha

people who take up the sidewalk by walking slow and making sure to walk side to side to so as to completely block off passers.

macs being slow.... ;)

[Foxer]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
actually, it's not. i don't say they should legalize pot and let people smoke it in bars or restaurants except for maybe specific coffee shops that sell it (ala netherlands). people can smoke cigs in their own homes. fine with me. likewise, i think they should be able to smoke pot in their own homes. oh, and by the way, i don't smoke either, just feel that the war on drugs is hurting far more people than it's helping

I agree with almost uniformly on this and I see that I was unclear. I was referring to those people who advocated outlawing smoking, not simply "zoning" it out of existance. I don't use drugs and have no plans to start, but I agree that the war on drugs is basically unwinnable and clogging up the courts and jails. plus, its a huge source of potentail tax revinue that I wouldn't have to pay, and might serve to reduce those taxes that I do pay.

[Sun Baked]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
people who take up the sidewalk by walking slow and making sure to walk side to side to so as to completely block off passers. At least they're walking and burning some calories...

They're not quite as bad as the people who are too lazy to walk and decide to spend many $k's on that personal mobility device.

---

Of course those people that are always in too big a hurry to slow down and enjoy life are just as bad. :p ;)

[jelloshotsrule]

vegetarians who have no religious reasoning behind not eating meat (ie, not talking about kosher issues or hindus, etc), and if they are accidentally served meat somewhere they flip out and make a scene...

heck, i saw a group of people do this in a thai restaurant only because they *thought* it tasted like there was some meat in it.... ha.


foxer- i don't know any people who actually outlaw smoking. though the tobacco companies could use some work... ;)

[lmalave]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule

heck, i saw a group of people do this in a thai restaurant only because they *thought* it tasted like there was some meat in it.... ha.


They were probably all grumpy from being undernourished ;)

[Spike Spiegel]

anything i put down here would just be scratching the surface, but it's still fun.
No particular order:
-people who say holla, holla back, and actually, any form of holler that is used to carry on conversations.
-people who wear their baseball caps tilted up and to the side with the cap just barely on their head so that a stiff breeze would blow it off.
-people who wear 'bling', even more so the people who say bling to describe their bling.
-rappers who get platinum teeth and call it 'bling in the grill'.
-smokers
-people who do nothing their whole college career except drink to excess
-people who whisper a lot
-mumblers
-tailgaters
-people who listen to music solely for the loudness of its bass, which they then turn up so much, the music is obscured.
-when i come back to my dorm at 5 in the morning expecting to go to sleep, and then find 4 passed out assholes sleeping in vomit(one of them in my bed!), then finding out almost a week later that one of them pissed in my closet and ruined $220 worth of stuff.
-dave matthews band and the people who listen to it
-scatter-brained people who insist on talking to me, so that i have to stand there patiently while their mind pulls a blue screen over and over.
-i'm just going to use a blanket statement here because i could go on for hours: people who misuse the english language so severly that to overhear them gives you the impression that they aren't speaking english.
whew, im done for now. at least until my roomate comes back...

[ejb190]

People driving while talking on cell phones generally scare me...

But the other day I passed a guy on a motorcycle talking on a cell phone... I thought he was going to loose control!

[Foxer]

I sense some anger here, Spike.

Originally posted by Spike Spiegel
-when i come back to my dorm at 5 in the morning expecting to go to sleep, and then find 4 passed out assholes sleeping in vomit(one of them in my bed!), then finding out almost a week later that one of them pissed in my closet and ruined $220 worth of stuff.

Yeah, that's one of my pet peeves, too.

Originally posted by Spike Spiegel
-dave matthews band and the people who listen to it


I should have added this one to my list. Phish, too. And aging Deadheads who go around saying, "I can't beleive he's gone, man."

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by lmalave
They were probably all grumpy from being undernourished ;)

ahhh. probably. odd that i didn't have said problem with my own order though. ;)

[vniow]

Dust.

I hate dust, when I lived in OK for awhile, out in the country, the roads were hardly ever paved and dust would get all in the house and up my nose, I swear I sneezed my guts out at least once a week when I lived there...

[caveman_uk]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
vegetarians who have no religious reasoning behind not eating meat (ie, not talking about kosher issues or hindus, etc), and if they are accidentally served meat somewhere they flip out and make a scene...

heck, i saw a group of people do this in a thai restaurant only because they *thought* it tasted like there was some meat in it.... ha.

I'm surprised they could summon the strength to argue..;)

[wdlove]

Parents using the the phrase "My kids." in reality is the term for the young of a goat!

[DaedalusDE]

-People who think that Good Charlotte and the like are "Punk"
-Old teachers who wear kilts and keep their legs spread ::barf::
-George Pataki
-those kickline pants that say 'kick' on the a$$... (but whenever i see them i follow the directions anyway)
-Joseph Leiberman
-People who think movie violence causes real violence (see above)
-The M$ logo on every XBox game... it just doesnt deserve to be there
-People who think that lacrosse is life
-Depression (its everywhere now... and it pisses me off... maybe because im like the only one of my friends not suffering from it)
-Abercrombie and Hollister and the like

Thats all i can think of off the top of my head right now...

oh wait... just one more... dont think this one has been mentioned yet...

-Telemarketers
-Telemarketers that call during dinner
-Telemarketers that call during dinner who are trying to sell you something that you already own, subscribe to, are insured by...

[wdlove]

Originally posted by DaedalusDE
-People who think that Good Charlotte and the like are "Punk"
-Old teachers who wear kilts and keep their legs spread ::barf::
-George Pataki
-those kickline pants that say 'kick' on the a$$... (but whenever i see them i follow the directions anyway)
-Joseph Leiberman
-People who think movie violence causes real violence (see above)
-The M$ logo on every XBox game... it just doesnt deserve to be there
-People who think that lacrosse is life
-Depression (its everywhere now... and it pisses me off... maybe because im like the only one of my friends not suffering from it)
-Abercrombie and Hollister and the like

Thats all i can think of off the top of my head right now...

oh wait... just one more... dont think this one has been mentioned yet...

-Telemarketers
-Telemarketers that call during dinner
-Telemarketers that call during dinner who are trying to sell you something that you already own, subscribe to, are insured by...

Didn't you forget spam? ;)

[MarksEvilTwin]

Removed

[King Cobra]

DaedalusDE, in response to your telemarketer situation, I would like to now refer you to my little rap I made up a while back in regard to telemarketers.

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/1297548 (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/1297548)


My turn on the soap box:
>People grabbing my attention when they know I know I heard them the first time.
>People commenting on my nice hair cuts. It's not nice (certainly not ugly), it's just a regular cut. No spikes, no braids (shoot me if I ever wear those things), and no crew cuts.
>People (and certain ones in particular) smoking around me or in general. I don't, but I've had to deal with an environment of being surrounded by it for the 17+ years of lifehood.
>People hosting any commercials that are not funny. AFLAC commercials are cool.
>People in general.
>Math bashers. EvilTwin, I take it you would be somewhat in the same boat, considering my ears [or eyes] are still ringing from your last comment.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Here's another pet peeve: people who actually believe that there is a huge difference between the two major American political parties.

They both employ the same underhanded, despicable strategies to win votes. Just because one party's message appeals to you more doesn't mean they're doing anything less "bad" than the other guys. It's just so much pot calling the kettle black... i think that's what he said. he was bashing republicans as well, if you didn't notice. he's in a "tertium quid" thing, the libertarian party, or so i understand. American politics is indeed fraught with massive amounts of dishonesty on a large scale. oh well, it's just our country...

[vniow]

Originally posted by King Cobra
AFLAC commercials are cool.


Hell yeah, AFLAC commercials are the shizz!

[beez7777]

Originally posted by pseudobrit
But a specific group of people is not of indeterminant sex.

If you're talking about an imaginary or hypothetical person, the correct way to do it has traditionally been to ascribe a male gender to them, yes, but a crowd of people would certainly not be referred to by a blanket gender. You never heard a crowd referred to as "gentlemen," it was always, "ladies and gentlemen."

There are no politics in this. I get this pet peeve from my mother, who has a masters in English and is a teacher.

well in latin, which is the root language for many, does the same. if there is a group of 99 females and 1 male, you refer to the group as masculine. that's just the way they did it. this i'm sure carried over to the other various languages, including english.

[beez7777]

Originally posted by lmalave
Marx was actually a Capitalist in the most classical sense of the word (his opus magnum is called "Das Kapital", after all). The problem is that back in those days the theory of supply and demand had not been formulated and wouldn't be for a few more decades. Economists at the time thought that prices were based on cost of production alone. Then a couple decades later the theory emerged that demand determined prices. As my Economics professor put it: the classical Capitalists would say that pearls were expensive because men must dive to great depths to obtain them. Demand theorists said that men dove to great depths to obtain pearls because they were expensive. Only later did someone (was it David Ricardo?) get the bright idea that price was set by both supply and demand.

So basically Marxism is based on totally outdated and debunked economic theories, but people continued to latch on to it for political reasons.

Kinda like supply-side theorists today ;)

marxism is just extreme socialism. and adam smith's The Wealth of Nations was published in 1776, in comparison to marx's communist manifesto, which was almost 100 years later. so in fact the supply/demand idea had already been formulated for 100 years.

[BrittasMac]

Here's one that just happened to me.

The light at the intersection turns green, I get about halfway across the intersection when all 3 lanes of traffic stop. I look ahead and realize that someone in the center lane had the bright idea of taking a left turn into a shopping center. Now 3 lanes of traffic are all stopped and I'm trapped in the middle of the intersection when the guy behind casually rolls into the back of my car. He had been talking on a cell phone and was looking the other way.

Luckily there was no damage to my car. :rolleyes:

[P-Worm]

I hate the word hilarious. In my opinion, it is the worst word in the English language...

P-Worm

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by Foxer
9. People who believe that there is no difference between the political parties. SEE NUMBER 3. They're VERY different. Somehow, a segment of the slacker population thinks it's intellgent to say that they're all the same. How can you say that Tom Delay and Maxine Waters have anything in common besides iron-based blood? Well, I guess if your idea of a perfect society is some unibomber, ludite thing or you advocate an anarchic world in which you get to kill people and then keep their stuff - in that case your might view both parties as interchangable.


There is a difference between the political parties, but if you believe in principle or real change (either ultrastatist or libertarian), they're rather similar. Compare the Bush education policy to the Clinton policy, and you will see they both advocate more federal money and control.

Originally posted by lmalave
Hmmm...sounds to me like you're "conforming" to every word Ayn Rand ever wrote. No one formulates their ideas in a vacuum. At which point would you call someone a non-conformist. I mean, last time I checked, there weren't that many Marxists in this country. In fact there's a lot more Ayn Rand acolyte libertarians who "conform" to almost everything you just said.

There are a number of things about which I disagree with Ayn Rand. The fact that I honor her as a great thinker and that I have a certain judgment of her doesn't mean I conform to everything she ever said or wrote. In fact, if it means anything to you, I independently came up with many of the the same conclusions Ayn Rand did before reading Ayn Rand.

The fact that Ayn Rand is right about many things doesn't mean it's conformist to agree with her about those things :)

And I would say that Marx has had far more influence than Rand.

[lmalave]

Originally posted by beez7777
marxism is just extreme socialism. and adam smith's The Wealth of Nations was published in 1776, in comparison to marx's communist manifesto, which was almost 100 years later. so in fact the supply/demand idea had already been formulated for 100 years.

Adam Smith introduced the idea of market equilibrium, the "invisible hand", but the mechanism by which it happened was still a foggy concept until Alfred Marshall's 1890 book "Principles of Economics". It was Alfred Marshall that derived the now familiar Supply and Demand curves. Before then, economists argued about wether the price of a good was determined by its production costs, or by the amount of "satisfaction" that the good provided (which we now think of as demand). At the time that Marx wrote Das Kapital, the prevailing theory was that prices were set by production costs.

[beez7777]

Originally posted by lmalave
It was Alfred Marshall that derived the now familiar Supply and Demand curves. Before then, economists argued about wether the price of a good was determined by its production costs, or by the amount of "satisfaction" that the good provided (which we now think of as demand). At the time that Marx wrote Das Kapital, the prevailing theory was that prices were set by production costs.

i could have sworn that it was smith who did the supply and demand curves, but i may be wrong.

[DakotaGuy]

Parents and Politicians that blame everything on the teacher.

[pseudobrit]

Originally posted by beez7777
well in latin, which is the root language for many, does the same. if there is a group of 99 females and 1 male, you refer to the group as masculine. that's just the way they did it. this i'm sure carried over to the other various languages, including english.

I never had the opportunity to take Latin, (even though I went to Catholic school all my life) but English is a Germanic language, not a Latin one.

In German, as in English, addressing a group of 99 women and 1 man would mean using the verb "you" (plural), which has no specific sex (or, unfortunately, plurailty) tied to it. I believe that in German you would use "Sie" ("you" plural, formal) when addressing a crowd which is the same word for "she."

[lmalave]

Originally posted by beez7777
i could have sworn that it was smith who did the supply and demand curves, but i may be wrong.

I highly recommend the book "The Worldly Philosophers", it tells the entire history of economics from Adam Smith to the present. Ok, I just made it sound really boring, but it's actually very, very interesting and not written like a formal history book - more like a good nonfiction book. It really opened my eyes and not only gave me a deeper understanding of economics, but also of how deep the influence of economics has been on history and vice versa.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by pseudobrit
In German, as in English, addressing a group of 99 women and 1 man would mean using the verb "you" (plural), which has no specific sex (or, unfortunately, plurailty) tied to it. I believe that in German you would use "Sie" ("you" plural, formal) when addressing a crowd which is the same word for "she."

In German, "Sie" is the formal plural. The familiar plural is "ihr", I believe. The familiar singular is "du".

Which proves nothing about saying "you guys", which many girls around where I live use when addressing a group of girls...

[pseudobrit]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
In German, "Sie" is the formal plural. The familiar plural is "ihr", I believe. The familiar singular is "du".

Which proves nothing about saying "you guys", which many girls around where I live use when addressing a group of girls...

Ihr is also a feminine gendered word, FWIW.

Anyway, the point of the peeve is that it's horrible grammar, which it undoubtedly is.

Which brings me back to more bad grammar: people who write "loose" when they mean "lose." Or variables thereof. And the you're/your and there/their/they're thing. Also when you get crap like this: "ur not serius r u.... thats 2 funny lol......" And when people use improper punctuation chronically, like when they use a -- or ....... after every clause.

Quick example: Your loosing you're mind!

Oh, and one more: pretentious people and fake people.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by pseudobrit
[B]Ihr is also a feminine gendered word, FWIW.
B]

"ihr" is also German for "her", while "sie" (small S), which means "them", also means "she"! So I guess that, in a way, you sometimes address multiple people as female in German!

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by pseudobrit
Ihr is also a feminine gendered word, FWIW.

Anyway, the point of the peeve is that it's horrible grammar, which it undoubtedly is.

Which brings me back to more bad grammar: people who write "loose" when they mean "lose." Or variables thereof. And the you're/your and there/their/they're thing. Also when you get crap like this: "ur not serius r u.... thats 2 funny lol......" And when people use improper punctuation chronically, like when they use a -- or ....... after every clause.

Quick example: Your loosing you're mind!

Oh, and one more: pretentious people and fake people.

hit the nail on the head with that peeve... too many people here type "loose" repeatedly making it clear it's not a typo... hmm... teasac?????

LOL WTF!

[wdlove]

I admit that English grammer is not my strong point, but I try. ;) Always try to think as I type. There are just too many rules to English! :(

Another peeve is drivers misuse of the turn signal, such as just turning it on as they make their move! :mad:

[strider42]

Originally posted by wdlove

Another peeve is drivers misuse of the turn signal, such as just turning it on as they make their move! :mad:

as my grandfather used to say, signals are for indication, not confirmation.

[Foxer]

Originally posted by strider42
as my grandfather used to say, signals are for indication, not confirmation.

When I moved to Boston, I was told that using turn signals was a sign of weakness.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
"ihr" is also German for "her", while "sie" (small S), which means "them", also means "she"! So I guess that, in a way, you sometimes address multiple people as female in German! you said the same thing as him, only in more words!

pet peeve? :o

[OutThere]

Really condescending people

MTV

People who worship MTV

Spastic Teachers who have good and bad grading days

People who don't have their own taste in music, but always go with the latest styles

Eminem

Really dumb morning radio DJs with really deep voices that laugh alot-I really don't want them to be talking to me in the morning

People who say like all the time (between every two words)

People who make fun of people who say like all the time by trying it themselves-"like I like was like going to like have like a party and like..."

The Osbournes

People who try to be annoying

People with HID (High Intensity Discharge) lights on their cars

people who suck up to other people

people who don't put on their low beam lights when you are driving/walking towards them

people who power walk

people who are too lazy to shower

really slow drivers

the RIAA

vegan raw foodists (no offense to anyone)

This all probably is really hypocritical and mean but sometimes things just drive me nuts!!!

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by OutThere761
vegan raw foodists (no offense to anyone)


what is a vegan raw foodist?

[wdlove]

Originally posted by Foxer
When I moved to Boston, I was told that using turn signals was a sign of weakness.

Boston is where I have noticed it the most. It does seem that it just works till it doesn't! You have to be a strong agressive driver to survive! :eek:

[pivo6]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
what is a vegan raw foodist?
It's people who eat raw vegetables, but not raw meat. People who eat raw meat must be ok with him/her.

[yzeater]

I read this whole thread, so I have the right to reply.

1. Teenagers with GPA's less than 3.7 or SAT's less than 1400. Unfortunately this age group (I'm 16, btw) is mostly a group of idiots that cares about almost nothing. They think their opinions are different and rebellious, but if 95% of teens share them...they're not different.

2. Evoltionists. How can you believe that all this was a random fluke?

3. Rednecks. Another group I spend too much time with (I race motocross). The mullet is SOO out of style, and your truck is simply impractical when you need a ladder to get into it.

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by pivo6
It's people who eat raw vegetables, but not raw meat. People who eat raw meat must be ok with him/her.

arent' there a ton of people that don't eat raw meat??

i mean, with the health risks especially.. not that cooked meat in this country is "safe"

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by yzeater
1. Teenagers with GPA's less than 3.7 or SAT's less than 1400. Unfortunately this age group (I'm 16, btw) is mostly a group of idiots that cares about almost nothing. They think their opinions are different and rebellious, but if 95% of teens share them...they're not different.


your first part is weak, the second part is good...

some people just don't have the natural smarts in general, and some don't have good test taking skills... that's a fact. doesn't make them not smart or less intelligent or less interesting inherently...

however, i agree about the second part. it's great to see people "rebel" by smoking... haha. like the people in charge actually *don't* want them smoking when big tobacco companies own the country by and large. and when something becomes the norm to do, it's no longer rebelling...

[pivo6]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
arent' there a ton of people that don't eat raw meat??

i mean, with the health risks especially.. not that cooked meat in this country is "safe"
Of course no one eats raw meat. I was being facetious, but I chose not to use any smilies. Someone else I think mentioned the overuse of smilies. So I will try to eliminate them, except for some extreme cases, and keep some people guessing. I think it's good to have just a little tension in these discussions.;)

[mim]

POSTS ABOUT MICE! (the electronic ones without lasers, not the animals)


I've got everything off my chest now.

Thanks to v. for starting such an interesting and rewarding thread :cool:

a!

[MacAztec]

Originally posted by yzeater
I read this whole thread, so I have the right to reply.

2. Evoltionists. How can you believe that all this was a random fluke?

I do believe this. Well, do you believe that we are the only planet with life? Did some being really make everything, out of nothing, over billions of years?

Science is great. We have facts, and we make a theory.

Religious people have a theory, but no facts. Did moses really split the sea in two? Hmm...some think he did.

But you dont see any of this stuff happening within the past 300 years do you? Ever since people started really Documenting things....

[yzeater]

Originally posted by MacAztec
I do believe this. Well, do you believe that we are the only planet with life? Did some being really make everything, out of nothing, over billions of years?

Science is great. We have facts, and we make a theory.

Religious people have a theory, but no facts. Did moses really split the sea in two? Hmm...some think he did.

But you dont see any of this stuff happening within the past 300 years do you? Ever since people started really Documenting things....

Huh? What do you believe?

[voicegy]

...watching a Pet Peeve post begin the slow decent into religion and/or political debate.:(

[lmalave]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
what is a vegan raw foodist?

Vegans that will only eat food if it is not cooked. So they will eat raw fruits, vegetables, nuts, etc. as long as it's not an animal product and is not cooked.

There is also a subset of non-vegetarian raw foodists. No one eats raw meat??? How about sushi?

Anyway, the whole idea is that the human body was designed to eat raw food so it must be healthier. Dunno about that, though. Humans started making fire, like, 3 or 4 hundred thousand years ago.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by yzeater
1. Teenagers with GPA's less than 3.7 or SAT's less than 1400. Unfortunately this age group (I'm 16, btw) is mostly a group of idiots that cares about almost nothing. They think their opinions are different and rebellious, but if 95% of teens share them...they're not different. how about, as a pet peeve, people who think that having a 4.0 GPA and better than a 1400 SAT score makes them better than people who don't in some way? I mean, step back, and look at what you said. that was obnoxious, arrogant, and thoughtless a fact that disproves your statement in and of itself (assuming you are in that group of people who have the higher grades and SAT scores).

If that's not enough, i have some cases-in-point for you. I have a friend named Shelly. she's one of those people that, while she has pretty OK grades, maybe 3.8 or so, only got about a 1290 on her SAT. She's not the sharpest tool in the shed, but that girl is dedicated like you wouldn't believe. I find her company much more pleasant than a lot of 4.0 GPAs with 1530s that i could name.

then there's me... I'm a national merit scholar, i've taken and received 4s and 5s on 5 different APs, and have 4 more on the way after this month, and have the 4.0 GPA. i've taken an AP or IB test every day this past week. i studied for them all by playing counterstrike all night, late into the night (like 3 AM). I don't care about them, or much of anything else. i'm extremely lazy and complacent.

as to your second statement ("They think their opinions are different and rebellious, but if 95% of teens share them...they're not different."). Prove it. No, scratch that. but tell me, do you honestly think that most of the people in the other 5% of people aren't conformist? and full of rather uneducated opinions that they think are unique? i have lots of very booksmart friends who think their outlooks are something special, and they're really just as pathetic as everyone else's.

just some advice as you become a junior in high school (i take it)--don't be too hasty to make generalizations about people. intelligence is very subjective, MOST CERTAINLY not bounded within the confines of a test score range or a GPA; and work ethic, joie de vivre and interest in life are all but totally unrelated to the booksmarts that gets you good SAT scores and high grades. there are idiots in the highest ranks of the high school honor roll, and there are plenty of smart, enjoyable people who don't make great grades because they are smart in a different way.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by lmalave
Anyway, the whole idea is that the human body was designed to eat raw food so it must be healthier. Dunno about that, though. Humans started making fire, like, 3 or 4 hundred thousand years ago. yes, but people have been conditioned to require sterile food. the average americans immune system would balk like all hell from, say, raw meat, or unsanitized water. if, however, our bodies were more frequently exposed to the pathogens and bacteria in raw meat &c, we would be able to take it. i don't see how our bodies were designed to eat raw food. they were designed to eat what they are adapted to eat. whatever though :D

[MacAztec]

Originally posted by yzeater
Huh? What do you believe?

I believe that this WAS all a random fluke. That we evolved from single-celled organisms.

[yzeater]

Okay Shadowfax...undebating this

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by yzeater
I read this whole thread, so I have the right to reply.

1. Teenagers with GPA's less than 3.7 or SAT's less than 1400. Unfortunately this age group (I'm 16, btw) is mostly a group of idiots that cares about almost nothing. They think their opinions are different and rebellious, but if 95% of teens share them...they're not different.

2. Evoltionists. How can you believe that all this was a random fluke?

3. Rednecks. Another group I spend too much time with (I race motocross). The mullet is SOO out of style, and your truck is simply impractical when you need a ladder to get into it.

Amazing! You hate every single high school student in America!

(EDIT: Even before getting to number 3!)

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Amazing! You hate every single high school student in America! [only 95% of them ;)]

[Ugg]

Television

99% of radio stations in the US

Creationism as pseudo science. I have no problem with people who believe in it but if it is going to be brought into schools, it should be taught as a religious belief, NOT science.

The overly perky who insist that I smile with them for no other reason than they are paid to do so.

I'm all for reducing bigotry, racism, sexism, etc (i'm gay). but I hate being looked at as though I'm a neo-Hitler every time I make a comment about religious beliefs, skin color, etc. I think the PC era should be ending soon as its beginning to stifle constructive discourse.

Elitism of any kind.

Clear Channel

People who hate the French.

People who can't spell, or even worse, those who don't make the time to proofreeed ;)

[Roger1]

Clear Channel


Whut? Don't you like Bob and Tom??? We shure do like them in Michigan!!! Thant's why every other station on the dial play them in th morning!

(starts singing and dancing) It's bob and tom, bob and tom

Note the sarcasm, please:D

[mbustamante]

People saying "Uh" "Um" "Like" etc. too many times in a speech, and people touching food and putting it back.