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dylan6950204
Jan 8, 2007, 06:35 PM
i have about 550 dallors to spend and being my age all i want to do is play games i was going to get a computer but i thought a new game consol would be better so i wanted an xbox 360 but my mom says that is to expencive but i can get a wii so i was wondering if the wii will be what i am looking for.i love sport games mostly football and i also like firt person shoter those r the only games i realy bother with and i always am playing those games like halo and nfl 07 on line will i get a good experience with first person shooters and football games on the wii.and i also like rule playing games so if that helps u help me.

also i am always open to a conputer that can play wow well and is under 550$ with out a monitor.

PLEASE HELP



MacRumorUser
Jan 8, 2007, 06:41 PM
seriously you like Halo and FPS and sports games. A 360 would be a better choice and is easily within your budget.

Wii's a great system but for FPS games - it hasnt proven itself with very average titles like COD3, RedSteel and the ugly FarCry.

The 360 excels in that field with some great games available, like COD2/3 Gears of War, Condemned, F.E.A.R etc..... and it also has a full gamut of sports titles also. Both from the 2k sports series and EA's catalogue.

Also WOW is rumored to be heading to 360 this year too.

Wii is a great machine, but just not sure its the best for your needs.

apfhex
Jan 8, 2007, 06:46 PM
The fact that you even mentioned Halo probably means you should get a Xbox 360. Sounds like its game library is much more in tune to what you like. The Wii is fantastic any day of the week, but has a very different selection of games available.

e˛Studios
Jan 8, 2007, 07:08 PM
seriously you like Halo and FPS and sports games. A 360 would be a better choice and is easily within your budget.

Wii's a great system but for FPS games - it hasnt proven itself with very average titles like COD3, RedSteel and the ugly FarCry.

The 360 excels in that field with some great games available, like COD2/3 Gears of War, Condemned, F.E.A.R etc..... and it also has a full gamut of sports titles also. Both from the 2k sports series and EA's catalogue.

Also WOW is rumored to be heading to 360 this year too.

Wii is a great machine, but just not sure its the best for your needs.

WoW is also rumored to be coming to the PS3 :D I know you didnt say it was an exclusive but a Blizzard company rep admits to talking to both Sony and M$.

"Sams did not rule out the possibility of World of warcraft coming to consoles. "We've met with Microsoft, we've met with Sony, and we are exploring these things, but the list of challenges is long,""

I have a Wii and i love it, but if there is a game that is multi-platform i will buy it for my PS3. The only exception to that rule was Madden 07 as the Wiimote makes gameplay a lot of fun. I just hope next year's will have improved graphics, it still looked "cube'ish". Elebits was awesome down to the last level, Red Steel is the best FPS for the system right now imho. The negative reviews for Red Steel either come from people that never got to know the controls or were looking for 360/PS3 level graphics.

Good luck in your decision.

Ed

viccles
Jan 8, 2007, 07:17 PM
I'd recommend a 360 but it's up to you ultimately :D

Dagless
Jan 8, 2007, 07:21 PM
Sounds like you want a 360!

Tell you what though... after my first few days I'm finding it very hard to go back to normal gaming. Shigsy was sorta right there! Tried playing Windwaker before and I kept waving the controller about like a madman. But get a 360. It sounds like it has the games you're after!

zap2
Jan 8, 2007, 07:26 PM
I love my Wii....but 360 might be your system, I'm sure either one would be fun for you.


I had some friends over and I brought down my TV so we could be playing more then other system. We has N64, xBox 360 and Wii there. We turned on Wii and xBox 360. 360 had GoW, possibly the best game on the 360. The Wii had Raymen in it. 2 people started playing GoW, and the four others were going to switch around in Raymen.



It ended up all of us LOVING Rayman....it was tons of fun. I'm not saying GoW is worse then Rayman, but if you have lots of people playing with out Wii wins hands down.


As for Red Steel and Call of Duty 3...I'm loving them. The controls are so fun. Sport games... I love Madden, but I've nevered liked Madden before. Some of my other friends who like Madden on PS3/xBox 360/PS2/xBox/Gamecube didn't like it as much...take that for what you want.

dylan6950204
Jan 8, 2007, 08:28 PM
i realy want a 360 but my mom thinks that is way to much to spend on a game system and thinks that a conputer would be way more "benifitial" but like i want to get my game on.so if u have anyways to convine her to let me buy one or one of u will sell me one for cheap it would be great but i know no one is going to sell me one so i need sugestions to convince my mom to leting me buy one. but also if any one has any good links to conputers that r good enoph to play wow and i can get for 550 with out the monitor i am cool with that to. thanks

Chone
Jan 8, 2007, 08:37 PM
i realy want a 360 but my mom thinks that is way to much to spend on a game system and thinks that a conputer would be way more "benifitial" but like i want to get my game on.so if u have anyways to convine her to let me buy one or one of u will sell me one for cheap it would be great but i know no one is going to sell me one so i need sugestions to convince my mom to leting me buy one. but also if any one has any good links to conputers that r good enoph to play wow and i can get for 550 with out the monitor i am cool with that to. thanks

Well its not like the Wii is much cheaper either :rolleyes: just tell her a 360 has much more games to play than a computer, besides, a World of Warcraft subscription is quite expensive, in fact, it would probably be more expensive in the long term than a 360 and a good supply of games.

You should convince your mom to let you get a 360 as that seems like the console you want, world of warcraft is not even that good of a game and with a 550 computer you won't be playing much else either.

Or you could just get a PS2 :p

dylan6950204
Jan 8, 2007, 08:54 PM
Well its not like the Wii is much cheaper either :rolleyes: just tell her a 360 has much more games to play than a computer, besides, a World of Warcraft subscription is quite expensive, in fact, it would probably be more expensive in the long term than a 360 and a good supply of games.

You should convince your mom to let you get a 360 as that seems like the console you want, world of warcraft is not even that good of a game and with a 550 computer you won't be playing much else either.

Or you could just get a PS2 :p

i just talked to my mom and tried all those good points but she is still strick so now i need a good computer up to about 700 so if u can elp me that way its appriciated

e˛Studios
Jan 8, 2007, 09:20 PM
i just talked to my mom and tried all those good points but she is still strick so now i need a good computer up to about 700 so if u can elp me that way its appriciated

How old are you? If you are still in school a computer will help you immensely over a game console. By the sounds of it you are still young, get a PC, buy WoW and have fun. WoW's requirements aren't too high, my Radeon 9250 plays it just fine, finding a lower end PC that can do academic items and still satisfy the gamer in you shouldn't be too hard to come by. Yea i know, its not as fun as a console, life isn't fair.. get used to it :p

Ed

dylan6950204
Jan 8, 2007, 09:29 PM
How old are you? If you are still in school a computer will help you immensely over a game console. By the sounds of it you are still young, get a PC, buy WoW and have fun. WoW's requirements aren't too high, my Radeon 9250 plays it just fine, finding a lower end PC that can do academic items and still satisfy the gamer in you shouldn't be too hard to come by. Yea i know, its not as fun as a console, life isn't fair.. get used to it :p

Ed

yeah i am 14 i want a computer (mac) that plays wii that is between 500 and 700 usd but i havnt had any luck

e˛Studios
Jan 8, 2007, 09:35 PM
yeah i am 14 i want a computer (mac) that plays wii that is between 500 and 700 usd but i havnt had any luck

I think you should be able to find a G4 Mac Mini for around that price range. You probably can get wifi/SD/1GB ram too considering a G4 1.4 1GB/SD/AP ran around 700 new. The G4 mini can play WoW fine and at the same time be an aid to your education. I hate to sound cliche but your education is what will buy you the good stuff in the future :)

Edit: there are plenty in your price range on ebay http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=G4+mac+mini&category0=&submitSearch=Search You can also try to post a WTB on the marketplace here, PM me if you need some help.

Ed

apfhex
Jan 8, 2007, 09:46 PM
I think you should be able to find a G4 Mac Mini for around that price range.
You can get a brand new 1.66Mhz Core Duo Mini for $600... however that's before tax and you still need a monitor (and keyboard and mouse, but those are cheap). I don't know how the GMA 950 compares to whatever graphics card came in the G4 Mini.

14 without a computer this day and age? :) A computer would be infinitely more valuable than a video game console.

e˛Studios
Jan 8, 2007, 09:53 PM
You can get a brand new 1.66Mhz Core Duo Mini for $600... however that's before tax and you still need a monitor (and keyboard and mouse, but those are cheap). I don't know how the GMA 950 compares to whatever graphics card came in the G4 Mini.

14 without a computer this day and age? :) A computer would be infinitely more valuable than a video game console.

It came with a Radeon 9250 or something along those lines :) Enough to play WoW and still be a viable machine for academics.

Graphics ATI Radeon 9200 with 32MB of DDR SDRAM with AGP 4X support (Dedicated DDR, not Shared)

http://support.apple.com/specs/macmini/Mac_mini_orig.html

Ed

JackAxe
Jan 8, 2007, 10:03 PM
I would get a Mini over a Wii for your sake, but definately a Wii over a 360.

Just to contradict MRU; ;) :)

The Wii has proven itself the king of sports games for this generation. Madden on the Wii is by far the most fun to play. The Wii's controlls are the key and no level of thumb-twidling can compare on a 360.

For shooters, a 360's horrid controlls simply can not compare to the Wii's setup, nor the mouse and keyboard setup you'll have on a Mini. The only advantage the 360 really has here, is just a year head start to build up a better collection of games. But the Wii will have its share of great FPS games, especially since its controls lend themselves so naturally to this genre. Metroid 3 is coming in a few months. This is a series of shooters that I personally like way better than the Halo series.

But go with a Mini. That's worth the extra cost in the long run and it will pay for itself in usefulness. Just install BootCamp and you'll have access to the PC's massive collection of FPS, which offer "free" online play. Also games like WC3 and Dota, which you play for free on BattleNet. ~i~ AhHhhhhhhh.

<]=)

Mac'Mo
Jan 8, 2007, 10:18 PM
DO NOT PLAY WOW. get a wii. hang out with ppl instead of via a screen. trust me

MacRumorUser
Jan 9, 2007, 05:56 AM
Just to contradict MRU; ;) :)
:rolleyes:


But go with a Mini. That's worth the extra cost in the long run and it will pay for itself in usefulness. Just install BootCamp and you'll have access to the PC's massive collection of FPS, which offer "free" online play. Also games like WC3 and Dota, which you play for free on BattleNet. ~i~ AhHhhhhhhh.

The GMA950 in the mac mini may make some games unplayable. Whilst others will be ok, but in order to really play a game with anything with a GMA chipset you need to bolster the memory and upgrade it to 2gb for max noticeable peformance in games.

But thats going to set you back at least another couple of hundred dolllars.

A mini with 512mb ram and a GMA950 is a nice computer but not really great for gaming.

+ if he wants bootcamp he'll have to shell out even more $$$ for a copy of windows.

Could end up costing a lot to maximize the mini's gaming peformance.

A cheaper PC might be better than a mini but then your not getting an apple, so I guess poster needs to prioritize and work out what he wants more.

A games system or a cheap apple computer.

Dagless
Jan 9, 2007, 07:04 AM
Don't have a computer? Get a mini.
Have a computer? Get a console.
Like playing sports games? Get a Wii.
Like playing online or single player games? Get a 360.

WillMak
Jan 9, 2007, 04:18 PM
Should you buy a wii should be changed to "can." I can't find the Wii anywhere! *tear

dylan6950204
Jan 9, 2007, 05:35 PM
You can get a brand new 1.66Mhz Core Duo Mini for $600... however that's before tax and you still need a monitor (and keyboard and mouse, but those are cheap). I don't know how the GMA 950 compares to whatever graphics card came in the G4 Mini.

14 without a computer this day and age? :) A computer would be infinitely more valuable than a video game console.

o dude i have two computers on my desk just not what i want becuse one is an imac that is like 5 or 6 years old and the outher like 5 or 6 year old imac and neathier can play wow

dylan6950204
Jan 9, 2007, 05:39 PM
I would get a Mini over a Wii for your sake, but definately a Wii over a 360.

Just to contradict MRU; ;) :)

The Wii has proven itself the king of sports games for this generation. Madden on the Wii is by far the most fun to play. The Wii's controlls are the key and no level of thumb-twidling can compare on a 360.

For shooters, a 360's horrid controlls simply can not compare to the Wii's setup, nor the mouse and keyboard setup you'll have on a Mini. The only advantage the 360 really has here, is just a year head start to build up a better collection of games. But the Wii will have its share of great FPS games, especially since its controls lend themselves so naturally to this genre. Metroid 3 is coming in a few months. This is a series of shooters that I personally like way better than the Halo series.

But go with a Mini. That's worth the extra cost in the long run and it will pay for itself in usefulness. Just install BootCamp and you'll have access to the PC's massive collection of FPS, which offer "free" online play. Also games like WC3 and Dota, which you play for free on BattleNet. ~i~ AhHhhhhhhh.

<]=)

ok this may sound like a stupid qestion but like can u play all the wii games on like a regular controler without moving ur hands all around?

e˛Studios
Jan 9, 2007, 05:42 PM
ok this may sound like a stupid qestion but like can u play all the wii games on like a regular controler without moving ur hands all around?

No, all Wii games are all meant for motion control for now. I have heard that SSBB will use the classic controller, but thats just a rumor.

Ed

dylan6950204
Jan 9, 2007, 05:46 PM
I would get a Mini over a Wii for your sake, but definately a Wii over a 360.

Just to contradict MRU; ;) :)

The Wii has proven itself the king of sports games for this generation. Madden on the Wii is by far the most fun to play. The Wii's controlls are the key and no level of thumb-twidling can compare on a 360.

For shooters, a 360's horrid controlls simply can not compare to the Wii's setup, nor the mouse and keyboard setup you'll have on a Mini. The only advantage the 360 really has here, is just a year head start to build up a better collection of games. But the Wii will have its share of great FPS games, especially since its controls lend themselves so naturally to this genre. Metroid 3 is coming in a few months. This is a series of shooters that I personally like way better than the Halo series.

But go with a Mini. That's worth the extra cost in the long run and it will pay for itself in usefulness. Just install BootCamp and you'll have access to the PC's massive collection of FPS, which offer "free" online play. Also games like WC3 and Dota, which you play for free on BattleNet. ~i~ AhHhhhhhhh.

<]=)

ok this may sound like a stupid qestion but like can u play all the wii games on like a regular controler without moving ur hands all around?

apfhex
Jan 9, 2007, 06:36 PM
SSBB will use the GC controller. The other Wii games available use the unique motion and pointing features of the Wiimote (and the nunchuck attachment) so it would be impossible to use something else to play them. But they don't all require you to stand up and jump around like Wii Sports. :) Zelda for example allows you to be pretty lazy, and Excite Truck doesn't require a huge amount of movement either.

I guess what it comes down to is, will you benefit from a new computer aside from being able to play some newer games on it? If not, then it might be a better idea to get a console that will last for a much longer time.

dylan6950204
Jan 9, 2007, 07:26 PM
i convinced my mom to let me buy an xbox360 i told here if i can buy it then i would let my brother have my psp (witch i hate it was such a waste of money).so i have won again and i am getting an xbox 360 but thanks for all the suggestions

MacRumorUser
Jan 10, 2007, 06:03 AM
i convinced my mom to let me buy an xbox360 i told here if i can buy it then i would let my brother have my psp (witch i hate it was such a waste of money).so i have won again and i am getting an xbox 360 but thanks for all the suggestions

Congrats my man. :D Just takes the right oil in the right cogs to get your way :)

Keirdre
Jan 10, 2007, 06:49 AM
To anybody thinking about buying a Wii....go for it, they are really fun, especially if you're a not-quite-so-hardcore gamer these days (like myself) and fancy some games that are actually fun.

MacRumorUser
Jan 10, 2007, 07:13 AM
To anybody thinking about buying a Wii....go for it, they are really fun, especially if you're a not-quite-so-hardcore gamer these days (like myself) and fancy some games that are actually fun.

That's fine and we agree, but if you read the original post - he really wants a 360 but was struggling to justify the purchase to his mother ;)

Maybe the thread title should have read 'do i have to buy a wii?' :)

2nyRiggz
Jan 10, 2007, 08:23 AM
Indeed...buy a wii if you can fun one. The machine is very entertaining although I'm too fond of all the Mii/weather channel stuff.



Bless

dylan6950204
Jan 10, 2007, 07:47 PM
[QUOTE=2nyRiggz;3233726]Indeed...buy a wii if you can fun one. The machine is very entertaining although I'm too fond of all the Mii/weather channel stuff.



Bless[/QUOTE

well wii is great and all but i new when i stuck up the wii thing all of u would say i should get an xbox so i thought since all of u would say i should get an xbox (and most of the time here r always great reasons on these forums) that my mom would be convinced all in the words of the forums

dylan6950204
Jan 10, 2007, 08:40 PM
well now that i have convinvinced my mom i need a good place to get an xbox 360
i need the preimium consol
gears of war
tom clany's rainbow six veagas
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and all for a total under 550usd

and like and extra controler would be nice
wired or wireless