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thegreatunknown

Jan 11, 2007, 09:17 AM

NeoMac

Jan 11, 2007, 09:33 AM

Yes, I can't wait. I pre-ordered it and picking up tomorrow. It is supposed to come with a Vital Suit action figure. Not a big deal but its free.

barr08

Jan 11, 2007, 09:33 AM

yes this game looks great. I preordered it so hopefully it'll be here soon (don't normally preorder but I got $10 off Viva Pinata so couldn't resist). I don't play very many shooters but the third person adventure aspect of this game bought me. And also, to the guy above, there is a one player demo also not just the multiplayer (its a separate download though).

I was not aware, i will download that and give it another shot. Thanks.

Oh, and "barr08" takes less time to type than "the guy above" :D

Just bustin your balls

wwooden

Jan 11, 2007, 09:35 AM

I absolutely loved the single player demo, I thought it was amazing when it first came out. I was really looking forward to trying the multiplayer demo, but once I got it, I wasn't into it as much as I hoped I would have been. I don't know why, just something didn't feel right.

The only thing that disappoints me about this game is the fact that there is no co-op mode for the campaign. I really have come to find that to be my favorite part about shooters, being able to play with my roommates or friends online. Gears of War got it perfect, I was hoping for something similar. I'm surprised that co-op isn't standard on games now, it just adds that much more replay value to the game.

I know the game with be great, but my excitement has been a little deflated since the so-so multiplayer demo and lack of co-op. I'll still end up getting it, but probably not right away.

yellow

Jan 11, 2007, 09:39 AM

I will be buying it.. but I'm much more excited about Mass Effect.

Sky Blue

Jan 11, 2007, 10:50 AM

So lost Planet got a good score...

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3156254

http://media.1up.com/images/Ratings/1up-65.gif

MacRumorUser

Jan 11, 2007, 11:11 AM

I'll be picking up my copy in the morning, along with Wario Ware.
One of the few times Europe gets it a few days before you :p

Give me a shout/invite when you see me online with it. I loved the demo's.

Should be a killer game.

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3156254

http://media.1up.com/images/Ratings/1up-65.gif

Does that make you feel better Sky Blue ;)

Check out Wii Sports. It too got 6.5 - but is a great game
You liked Red Steel didn't you ? oh best not check that page, it got a 5 ;)

shortyjj

Jan 11, 2007, 11:49 AM

Going to pick this up as a rental, too many other A-list titles to look forward to.

MacRumorUser

Jan 11, 2007, 01:15 PM

Famitsu Magazine seemed to really go for it - surprising

Japanese game mag Famitsu had just finished its Lost Planet review. The magazine tested out both single player and multi-player. Four editors reviewed the game on a scale of 1-10 (with 10 being the best), and here's what they had to say:

1) Cool that it feels like a big-budget sci-fi movie. You'll need to keep collecting Thermal Energy to stay alive, so you'll have to stay in the action at all times. If you find the game too hard, swallow your pride and play it on Easy mode. Playing against players from around the world looks like fun. SCORE = 9

2) Plays pretty much like an orthodox FPS game. The game balance lets you play through the game without much stress. Very inventive in that you have your human weapons and Vital Suit weapons, and you can use them all on foot. The slower movements of the hefty Vital Suits balance out their overwhelming firepower and add to the tension. SCORE = 9

3) From the realism of the snow and air in the environments to the battles that really put you in the middle of the action, this game has it all. Battles against giant enemies and robots are super-exciting. May take some people a little time to get used to the unique controls and gameplay concepts. Story plays out well, with twists and turns throughout the experience. Online multiplayer seems a bit bland, but it's fun to play nonetheless. SCORE = 9

4) Despite the weapon balancing being fine-tuned with the multiplayer in mind, the story mode truly is a blast! Battles with creatures in the extreme conditions are intense and very challenging. The bosses are big, and the pattern-recognition style of boss-conquering is very rewarding. SCORE = 9

also

Team Xbox Review 8.4
http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1279/Lost-Planet/p1/

Sky Blue

Jan 11, 2007, 02:32 PM

You liked Red Steel didn't you ?
never played it.

pgc6000

Jan 11, 2007, 07:17 PM

Looks good, though I'm still after Gears of War or Saints Row

Markleshark

Jan 12, 2007, 06:20 AM

So I was looking forward to it... Until I played it... Not buying it anymore. :(

Piarco

Jan 12, 2007, 08:13 AM

Must admit the good reviews got me thinking about buying it after what I considered a so-so demo... but I think I'll err on the side of caution and rent it instead...

MacRumorUser

Jan 12, 2007, 09:06 AM

Picked it up and had a good hour blast and certainy say It's better than the demo. I prefer it to GOW to be honest.

I'll post a review after I've played more.

Also picked up WarioWare for the Wii. :)

2nyRiggz

Jan 12, 2007, 11:15 AM

^Hurry up with that review would ya....I'm about to go get it;)
The level looks awesome and big and how are the weapons.....to me it looks like they got some sticky bombs in the game..

Bless

takao

Jan 12, 2007, 11:24 AM

Also picked up WarioWare for the Wii. :)

offtopic:
how's wario ware ?

i thought about picking up this or elebits (or eledees or howevery they want to rename it in europe) in februar so i'd really like your opinion on it

Dagless

Jan 12, 2007, 12:40 PM

offtopic:
how's wario ware ?

i thought about picking up this or elebits (or eledees or howevery they want to rename it in europe) in februar so i'd really like your opinion on it

For once I beat everyone to the goal with this one :p got it yesterday.

It really is like any other WarioWare. Quick to complete, easy, insanely fun. My mum didn't understand it at all, then again she came to that conclusion from watching the Disco guys intro animation.
The games are great, the controls work perfectly. The mini games are absurdly addictive. Multiplayer has to be unlocked (beat single player). Best title music ever, IMO.

But it definitely won't be for everyone. The absurdity of the series peaks in this one.

MacRumorUser

Jan 12, 2007, 12:52 PM

edit : I apologize in advance for bad grammar and spelling, but I'm trying to type and play the game at the same time. Damn I wish I was an octopus ;)

Initial Impressions

When starting the game you are prompted to update - so I did that straight away

Menu system is minimal.

Starting new campaign

Intro is a mix of in-game engine cut-scene and narration with a few still images.

Graphically this is WOW. utterly amazing with some of the best explosions and ricochet (similar to fears), All the effects, focus, blur, bloom & HDR all rendered to impressive effect at 1080i

Audio through out is amazing score. Really cinematic orchestral opus.

Then the game starts.

Graphically its the same as the cut-scenes so you know its all good. With great reflection, anti aliasing etc.

Now to mention the game is NOT easy, even on easy. I'm playing normal but it tough cookie, but not as frustratingly so as GOW

No major spoiler here as its only the first 5-6 mins ;)

Your inside a base with your team. and pretty soon if your fighting the beasts from the intro.

You enter a room and it opens and it looks like a city - massive. You shoot a few flying creatures and nests, all of sudden the ground shakes. You turn around and :eek:

The game is explosive, with some of the most impressive booms and bangs in a game.

So far about 1 hour in - its hot. (for a game set in the cold ;) )

Story is compelling.

Definitely if you like action games, pick this up.

Certainly as impressive as GOW, but I prefer the game-play here to GOW.

A proper review shall follow, but its looking like a serious contender here folks for game of 2007 and we've only just begun.

Haven't played Wario yet.

additionally just discovered you can play the game if first person or third person by pressing up or down on the dpad. Nifty.

barr08

Jan 12, 2007, 01:22 PM

additionally just discovered you can play the game if first person or third person by pressing up or down on the dpad. Nifty.

Thats cool. I am going to download the single player demo to see whats up. I didn't really like the multiplayer demo.

SpankyPenzaanz

Jan 12, 2007, 01:25 PM

is there co-op

MacRumorUser

Jan 12, 2007, 01:43 PM

Single player demo has 2 levels. 1 is the same level as on the multiplayer demo.

The other is actually the first mission in the retail version. The first mission has some new features not in the demo one.

Also they have tightened up controls It feels really intuitive now, I thought the demo was a bit clunky. not sure what they have done exactly, maybe make it more responsive ?

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co-op - unfortunetly none for the main story.

But 2-16 player online arena modes,

Will play multiplayer later when more people on my FL report in :)

Mackilroy

Jan 12, 2007, 03:15 PM

I want to grab Lost Planet, but that won't be happening for at least a week or three. :(

Thanks for the info, MRU. :)

Annndy!

Jan 12, 2007, 03:39 PM

Looks pretty good. I'd probably pick it up...if I had a 360. Just not enough games that interest me to justify buying one (yet).

MacRumorUser

Jan 12, 2007, 07:30 PM

Update.

I love the transforming mechs. I love the fact you can detach their guns when the mechs are damaged or change them when ammo runs out.

I'm only on Mission 3 - its a tough level with somthing VERY impressive that's big & long ;)

Mission 2 took me around 49 minutes to complete and the second level of the single player demo, is merely a small section of this mission two.

jasko

Jan 13, 2007, 01:38 PM

I'm playing the first level now and it's pretty impressive so far. I'll post updates as I go along.

grizzlybrice

Jan 13, 2007, 03:21 PM

My roommate bought it, mostly for the multiplayer because he really got into the mech combat in the multiplayer demo. But alas, we can't play together in multiplayer on the same machine. A real drag. Unless we are doing something wrong, we can't get it to work.

No coop in the story mode is okay by me (GOW takes care of that craving), but no 2 player on the same machine multi? Seems like a necessary feature for any shoot'em'up games with online. Really dropped the ball on that one. :(

gB

vraxtus

Jan 13, 2007, 03:26 PM

I got it but the first two levels haven't really impressed me that much so far. One thing I can't stand that I liked about GoW was that the reticle doesn't change when you change weapons. I'll have to play it more but so far hasn't been that much more impressive than GoW.

MacsomJRR

Jan 13, 2007, 04:35 PM

I can't wait til my copy arrives sometime next week. The multiplayer demo online has been a lot of fun and looks like it'll offer a ton of reply value etc... Obviously I haven't played the actual game yet but i'd like to caution anyone listening to 1up reviews for games because they are usually totally off. It's like they just want to throw up a review and don't take the time to really go through each and every little aspect.

Gametag: MacsomJRR

MacRumorUser

Jan 13, 2007, 04:56 PM

Anybody manage to take down the big 'thing' on mission 3 ? I was told there's a secret achievement if you can. I got close (destroy all the glowing things on the thing ;) ) but got eaten.

saunders45

Jan 15, 2007, 01:39 PM

Anybody manage to take down the big 'thing' on mission 3 ? I was told there's a secret achievement if you can. I got close (destroy all the glowing things on the thing ;) ) but got eaten.

You can? I hit it with like 8 rockets, and said screw this... Run like Hell!!!!

I was on the fence about picking it up, even though I loved the singleplayer demo, and I'm totally glad I did. I'm on mission 6 already. Each one has been about 40 - 60 minutes each, with TONS of crap to blow up. I have to say, I have really enjoyed it so far. The Mechs, and Grappling hook are definitely a sweet, sweet thing. While the story is somewhat convulted so far, I could care less, the gameplay is fun. Can't wait to fight Green Eye, and the big moth!!!

MacRumorUser

Jan 15, 2007, 01:44 PM

You can? I hit it with like 8 rockets, and said screw this... Run like Hell!!!!

........

While the story is somewhat convulted so far, I could care less, the gameplay is fun.

Yep you can, I think there maybe a hidden achievement too ;)

Look on its body and shoot your rockets at each of the glowing things ;)

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Yeah all capcom games have convoluted stories. Maybe they are just lost in translation or the japanese really go for weird storylines.

2nyRiggz

Jan 15, 2007, 01:57 PM

Why do people mention GOW everytime lostplanet comes up?
I haven't purchase LP as yet but the demo is nice but I see no connection between the two....oh well maybe its just me.:)

Bless

saunders45

Jan 15, 2007, 01:59 PM

Yep you can, I think there maybe a hidden achievement too ;)

Look on its body and shoot your rockets at each of the glowing things ;)

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Yeah all capcom games have convoluted stories. Maybe they are just lost in translation or the japanese really go for weird storylines.

I think its the latter. Japanese games tend to have non-sensical plotlines, ala Metal Gear Solid 2, WORST STORY EVER™.

I did look it up, you do get an achievment for it. So after I beat the game, it's Dune time baby!!!
As far as people bringing up GOW, I dunno. i don't really think it's all that great. Sure it's pretty, sure the co-op is fun, but it ain't like OMGWTFBBQ!!11!!1!! best game ev4r!!!! The multi-player is lame and pointless. Vegas' multi-player is leaps and bounds above Gears, but to each his own, I guess......

MacRumorUser

Jan 15, 2007, 02:20 PM

Why do people mention GOW everytime lostplanet comes up?
I haven't purchase LP as yet but the demo is nice but I see no connection between the two....oh well maybe its just me.:)

Simply because they are both third person action shooters I guess :)

But the two do play entirely differently.

Lost Planet reminds me more of the Sega launch xbox title Gun Valkyrie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GunValkyrie

darkwing

Jan 15, 2007, 02:47 PM

Looks like a great game! Almost makes me want a 360. ;)

wwooden

Jan 15, 2007, 03:53 PM

I've been waiting for this game since the demo came out last summer. I lost a little bit of excitement after I saw it had zero co-op, such a shame in my book. I will be picking this up soon, but I am too busy with Viva Pinata at the moment, not that I'm upset by that :).

thegreatunknown

Jan 19, 2007, 09:30 AM

got it. haven't played it yet. the name is 'nayr qwerty' if you want to add me. I play purely for the fun... and those darn achievements.

yellow

Jan 19, 2007, 09:38 AM

I bought it 2 days ago and STILL haven't had a chance to play it. <sulk>

2nyRiggz

Jan 19, 2007, 10:36 AM

I still haven't gotten it as yet...It suppose to be here tuesday but not...oh well. From the demo the controls were a little sluggish..is that fixed?

Bless

MacRumorUser

Jan 19, 2007, 11:47 AM

I still haven't gotten it as yet...It suppose to be here tuesday but not...oh well. From the demo the controls were a little sluggish..is that fixed?

Yep final version feels far more intuitive control wise. Not sure exactly what they've done but the experience is much tighter.

Spartacus

Jan 24, 2007, 04:59 AM

I found this to be a super fun game! I just finished it on Normal (middle) difficulty and found it way too easy. The health system is unique and keeps you moving through the game, but there is far too much of the orange stuff to really challenge the gamer.

The story was great! I mean, I love to laugh....really, I'd prefer a story as messed-up as this one to a story like Rainbow Six where I'm led to believe it could actually happen. I'd rather laugh AT a game's super crazy story than not believe it without anything to laugh at...make sense? haha

I was dissapointed with the framerate drops though. I think this is a game that the PS3 might have actually excelled at. I mean, with all the physics and particle effects (there are a MASSIVE amount of them) the 7 cores in the PS3 might have been able to ease the stress more than the 360's 3. Am I totally off on this?

wwooden

Jan 24, 2007, 06:17 AM

MacRumorUser

Jan 24, 2007, 06:59 AM

I was dissapointed with the framerate drops though. I think this is a game that the PS3 might have actually excelled at. I mean, with all the physics and particle effects (there are a MASSIVE amount of them) the 7 cores in the PS3 might have been able to ease the stress more than the 360's 3. Am I totally off on this?

I'm running at 1080i and havent had any noticeable frame rate juggers at all. Not 1 even when the screen was awash with massive monsters, flying creatures and explosions ?

And yes you are off with regards to the PS3. AS wwooden says it does not have 7 cores. It has 1 processor than can run 6 SPU's. Not the same thing.

If the PS3 was some mythical beast for untapped power please tell the developers as some of the launch games had worse frame-rate issues than their 360 counterparts.

Basically PS3 is give or take the same power as 360. Its the different games specific to each format & blu ray that marks the difference.

A game released on both would look as close to identical bar incidental small differences.

Spartacus

Jan 24, 2007, 07:37 AM

I'm running at 1080i and havent had any noticeable frame rate juggers at all. Not 1 even when the screen was awash with massive monsters, flying creatures and explosions ?

That's goofy. Anyone else have framerate slowdowns? Oh well. So thanks for the core info on the systems. All that '7 cores!' BS doesn't sound so great anymore. I've always been a fan of less powerful cores but more of them than less cores but more powerful ones. If the 360's three cores can do two processes each, then golly :rolleyes:

MacRumorUser

Jan 24, 2007, 07:43 AM

That's goofy. Anyone else have framerate slowdowns? Oh well. So thanks for the core info on the systems. All that '7 cores!' BS doesn't sound so great anymore. I've always been a fan of less powerful cores but more of them than less cores but more powerful ones. If the 360's three cores can do two processes each, then golly :rolleyes:

Just because more sounds better in reality it can mean very little. Remember for years Apple had struggled to convince the world that processor speed comparisons between it and say intel, did not mean the same thing. Its what the processor can do thats important.

The cell is an amazing feat of enginerring, of which there is no doubt, but it was never designed specifically for games processing in general, only certain calculations and therefore often 7 versus 3 doesnt make it better.

Unfortunetly most people still believe bigger is better. :)

yellow

Jan 24, 2007, 08:07 AM

I enjoy the game, but the inability to aim higher than a certain point I find to be a bit annoying.

MacRumorUser

Jan 24, 2007, 08:52 AM

I enjoy the game, but the inability to aim higher than a certain point I find to be a bit annoying.

Yep that can be a bit of a pain when your trying to use the grappling hook very close up to a surface.

TBi

Jan 24, 2007, 09:11 AM

And yes you are off with regards to the PS3. AS wwooden says it does not have 7 cores. It has 1 processor than can run 6 SPU's. Not the same thing.

If the PS3 was some mythical beast for untapped power please tell the developers as some of the launch games had worse frame-rate issues than their 360 counterparts.

The PS3 Cell has one 1 PPE (general purpose) processor with 7 SPE's, not 6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3). There were originally supposed to be 8 SPE's but this was cut down later to 7 for yield reasons.

thegreatunknown

Jan 24, 2007, 09:20 AM

I've been playing a mission a night for the last few nights... (up to mission 5). I love the game, I'm not into shooters but this seems more of an adventure game to me which is what I really like. I think the third person perspective helps me too. I hope they keep going in this direction...

haven't tried the multiplayer yet but will do soon.

Anyways, I'm playing it at the easy level to start and I've found each level is quite easy, that being I can just run through it shooting everything I see without any strategy. However, the bosses seem quite difficult. Either I'm having problems finding the weaknesses in their pattern or they are pretty difficult. I always try to use the VS's against the bosses and I can't move them very fast so I end up just standing there and throwing everything I can at them until it tells me to eject.

MacRumorUser

Jan 24, 2007, 09:20 AM

The PS3 Cell has one 1 PPE (general purpose) processor with 7 SPE's, not 6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3). There were originally supposed to be 8 SPE's but this was cut down later to 7 for yield reasons.

oops I was adding 1 + 6 :rolleyes: :D

Mackilroy

Jan 24, 2007, 09:58 PM

I got my copy today and noticed on the back it says "HDTV 720p/1080i/1080p."

So, if I ever get a 1080p TV it'll run at native resolution. :)

MacRumorUser

Jan 25, 2007, 01:56 AM

Hey your right, never noticed that.

This must be the first true 1080p native (not upscaled) game on the 360 then.

Sweet.

zoetropeuk

Jan 25, 2007, 06:09 AM

I'm running at 1080i and havent had any noticeable frame rate juggers at all. Not 1 even when the screen was awash with massive monsters, flying creatures and explosions ?

Try a 16 player online battle and watch the massive slow down. If there's a few players on the screen and a VS or 2 the framerate drops to less then 1 frame per second and basically stops you from doing anything until the VS stops firing and the explosions die down.

Now try the online battle in R:FOM with 40 players, just as many explosions, bullets, rockets, aliens etc and there's NEVER even a hint of slowdown. I'm no fanboy of any brand but from my perspective and from the games I personally own and play, the PS3 is ALOT more impressive than the 360.

Even in PGR3 which is far from impressive has massive slowdowns if all 8 cars come into the first corner of a race in view of the screen at the same time. True the F1 demo on the PS3 has a very slight drop in the framerate but that's with more cars on screen at the same time and much more impressive graphics. I can't comment on the final version of F1 but I've not heard anyone mention any slowdowns yet.

edit, if you want to see it firsthand "MacRumorUser" add me to you friends list "bmwbeetle" and we can fight it out online :)

PS I suck at FPS games so be warned :)

Matt

MacRumorUser

Jan 25, 2007, 06:23 AM

Try a 16 player online battle and watch the massive slow down. If there's a few players on the screen and a VS or 2 the framerate drops to less then 1 frame per second and basically stops you from doing anything until the VS stops firing and the explosions die down.

Now in fairness I havent played multiplayer fully yet. And I think the biggest game I joined was 6 players including myself and it was grand. All players from within Ireland (our clan)

Is it possible it's more to do with the server than the game and that your just all lagging ? Remember COD2 suffered terribly from this until they released an update.

Strange that the single player doesnt have the problem and theres massive amount of stuff going on, that's why I'm wondering if its more of an online problem rather than game in general ?

Now try the online battle in R:FOM with 40 players, just as many explosions, bullets, rockets, aliens etc and there's NEVER even a hint of slowdown.

Perfect Dark Zero had 32 players and it never really suffered from online problems either.

edit, if you want to see it firsthand "MacRumorUser" add me to you friends list "bmwbeetle" and we can fight it out online :)

PS I suck at FPS games so be warned :)

Matt

I've added you - you should get a friends request from the land of scrap.

And dont worry I'm crap at those games too :D

jane doe

Jan 25, 2007, 08:31 AM

MacRumorUser

Jan 25, 2007, 09:12 AM

I've been playing it since the night it came out. Never really noticed any slowdown or loss of frame rates, even with 16 players online. I think that has to do with how fast each persons connection is.

Yeah that's what I thought could be the problem, that it was a lag issue and not a framerate problem.

When your having bad lag it can seem like the framerate is 1-5 fps, choppy and jumpy.

From the limited multiplayer i've played (just with members of our irish clan) I've yet to experience lag or framerate trouble at all.

Also anyone experiencing problems with lag, please check that your xbox live connection is showing NAT as OPEN. If its Moderate / Strict it can cause lag problems and errors connecting to games in general.

2nyRiggz

Jan 25, 2007, 09:54 AM

I hate ordering things online sometimes....it takes too long to come. R:FoM, LP and the DS game is taking really long.

Bless

MacRumorUser

Jan 25, 2007, 09:55 AM

I hate ordering things online sometimes....it takes too long to come. R:FoM, LP and the DS game is taking really long.

Yeah its a pain. You spend every day watching the letterbox just in case.

zoetropeuk

Jan 25, 2007, 11:39 AM

Yeah that's what I thought could be the problem, that it was a lag issue and not a framerate problem.

When your having bad lag it can seem like the framerate is 1-5 fps, choppy and jumpy.

From the limited multiplayer i've played (just with members of our irish clan) I've yet to experience lag or framerate trouble at all.

Also anyone experiencing problems with lag, please check that your xbox live connection is showing NAT as OPEN. If its Moderate / Strict it can cause lag problems and errors connecting to games in general.

I know you don't want to believe it but it's definitely a frame rate issue. If my ping/connection is slow for some reason then other players will see me jumping around all over the place. If another players ping/connection is slow then I will see them jump all over the place and it will happen regardless of the number of players on screen.

The data needed to tell the game where the other players are and what they're doing is minimal compared to my 2mbit connection. Also if I optimise the connection and turn voice off it makes no difference which for me rules out connection issues.

And yes, my route has NAT open so that's not the issue as well.

Matt

MacRumorUser

Jan 25, 2007, 11:45 AM

Haoshiro

Jan 25, 2007, 12:23 PM

Personally I think everyone is just describing Network Lag (Packet Loss) during performance problems.

Let's consider the 360 install base (10+ million) and the number of Xbox Live Subscribers (4+ million)

Now consider the PS3 install base, ~400K

Even if we consider that every PS3 is being used online (100% online pentration), it's still only one tenth (1/10) the number of users as Xbox Live. Chances are it has more like 50% or less usage (<200K), a small fraction compared to XBL.

So PS3 servers are barely even getting touched compared to XBL, there are likely more people playing Lost Planet then there are PS3s sold, GoW for example has gone double-platinum.

Doesn't mean the PS3 is actually handling "massive 40 player battles" better then 360, it could in fact be that the PS3 network is just not being pushed. Whereas the 360 network has HUGE amounts of traffic.

When the PS3 online community gets as big as XBL then we could probably have a much better comparison.

In the end a game that's running on a network with very little traffic (RFoM) is naturally going to perform better then a game on a very high traffic network (LP/GoW/etc).

saunders45

Jan 26, 2007, 06:57 AM

I know you don't want to believe it but it's definitely a frame rate issue. If my ping/connection is slow for some reason then other players will see me jumping around all over the place. If another players ping/connection is slow then I will see them jump all over the place and it will happen regardless of the number of players on screen.

The data needed to tell the game where the other players are and what they're doing is minimal compared to my 2mbit connection. Also if I optimise the connection and turn voice off it makes no difference which for me rules out connection issues.

Matt

Dude... It's a latency issue. It might not by on your end, but the host's. I have a 15up/5down mb connection in Florida. I host 16 player ,matches and play with people all over the U.S., including my cousin and Uncle, who live 1600 miles away. Nobody complains about slowdowns.

MacRumorUser

Jan 26, 2007, 07:20 AM

Dude... It's a latency issue

Amazes me people dont know the difference....

Mackilroy

Jan 26, 2007, 12:42 PM

I played my first online game last night, and had absolutely no framerate slowdowns at all, even with 15 people in the room, and lots of gunfire, smoke, explosions and such.

2nyRiggz

Jan 28, 2007, 01:14 PM

Okay I got my copy of LP:Extreme Condition and I'll be on tonight(Yes Mackillroy I'm on Gold now) so if anyone wants to have a go at it then Ill be on at 10pm eastern..

Bless

robPOD

Jan 28, 2007, 01:51 PM

I downloaded the online demo and thought is sucked. I like Gears of war way better

Mackilroy

Jan 28, 2007, 09:02 PM

Okay I got my copy of LP:Extreme Condition and I'll be on tonight(Yes Mackilroy I'm on Gold now) so if anyone wants to have a go at it then Ill be on at 10pm eastern..

Bless
Hehe. At the time I didn't know you were still a lowly Silver account. :p

2nyRiggz

Jan 31, 2007, 05:22 PM

MacsomJRR

Jan 31, 2007, 06:17 PM

Hey is anybody having as much trouble as me online?
Its very hard for me to identifiy the other team online. I know the cursor turns the color of the other team but its so hard to see..I end up getting killed and a splitting head pain from straining.

I like the online play but it gives me a pain in the head everytime:(

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I'm not having much trouble with it. It helps if you watch the way your enemy (or friend) is moving or acting (i.e. if they start shooting at your then you should probably assume they are not on your team). Make sure you use the scopes on guns that have that feature and/or zoom in with other guns to get a better idea who you are shooting at.

This game is a blast but I've been playing more Rainbow 6 lately although it keeps crashing on me. Freakin Microsoft.

2nyRiggz

Feb 1, 2007, 01:05 PM

Updates a plenty:)
Wished they would make the crosshair a little bigger.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/760/760432p1.html

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thegreatunknown

Feb 16, 2007, 07:41 AM

Ok so this conversation is a bit of the past but I'll bring it back up. About this whole framerate issue, it happens, and it isn't lag. I've been playing on live and I've been seeing lag, a lot of it actually. For instance, posts being magically activated on their own with nobody around (????).

Anyway, last night I was playing level ten against the first boss. When you walk into the room, I was standing in the front right corner looking back and firing a gatling gun from a VS at the 'feelers'. The game came to a screeching halt multiple times, the feelers started pausing and then jumping to a new location, etc. etc. This was not over live so I'm pretty sure this wasn't lag.

I'm enjoying this game a lot though. One more level on single player to beat and I've managed to level up to 25 even though I'm not any good. The post grabs are a blast.

2nyRiggz

Feb 16, 2007, 12:44 PM

^I saw the post going up by itself several times, heck when I'm at the post sometimes the post fights with me and it turns to the other team color....I was told it was player in ghost mode...he can't see me and I can't see him.

The pause when picking up items and at the start is horrible but other than that the game has been great.

I wish R6:Vegas wasn't so buggy....the online multiplay is unplayable for me at times.

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2nyRiggz

Mar 6, 2007, 05:41 AM

Anybody still playing LP....they just updated it and now it plays a little bit better.

Now more character pause to pick up items.
Flags are now added
Guns feel better
People with bad connections gets knocked out.

I'm happy with it......though I get knocked out a lot of games:mad:

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MacRumorUser

Mar 6, 2007, 05:45 AM

I'm happy with it......though I get knocked out a lot of games:mad:

What's your NAT setting ? Is it Moderate or OPEN ?

wwooden

Mar 6, 2007, 06:14 AM

Yeah, I've had this game for a couple weeks now and haven't been able to get into an online game yet. It will search, says it finds a game, then it says the host has ended the game each time. It's a shame, I was really looking forward to this game, I think I played both demo's more than any full game I had last year.

jane doe

Mar 6, 2007, 06:40 AM

I've had off and on problems with Lost Planet searching for a match and not finding one.

I had to search 3 times last night before it would find a player match.

zoetropeuk

Mar 6, 2007, 07:01 AM

Amazes me people dont know the difference....

Yeah it does actually:rolleyes:

The symptoms of a latency issue are players jumping around the screen and randomly disappearing. The issues I'm talking about have nothing to do with latency but the fact that the 360 cannot handle 16 players on the screen AT THE SAME time with mechs firing rockets and large explosions.

I've tested this 2-3 times now. If you have 16 players visible on the screen just walking around there are NO PROBLEMS. Get 5-6 of those players to use a VS and fire off some rockets into the other players then the game screeches to a halt. As soon as the explosions finish the frame rate normalises. This has nothing to do with network latency. If you think it does then you have an issue.

Matt

MacRumorUser

Mar 6, 2007, 07:08 AM

This has nothing to do with network latency. If you think it does then you have an issue.

ooo get her

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2826/handbag1.jpg

2nyRiggz

Mar 6, 2007, 10:24 PM

What's your NAT setting ? Is it Moderate or OPEN ?

It's moderate...I think port fowarding is in need but I don't know the steps. Sometimes when I play vegas I get that red dot and the host kicks me out.

wwooden we have the same problem.....thats a new feature from the update...if you are the weakest link the game will boot you.

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MacRumorUser

Mar 7, 2007, 04:40 AM

It's moderate...I think port fowarding is in need but I don't know the steps. Sometimes when I play vegas I get that red dot and the host kicks me out.

wwooden we have the same problem.....thats a new feature from the update...if you are the weakest link the game will boot you.

Yep it's definetly because your moderate. I had the same problems until my NAT was OPEN. The only thing I did to get my NAT to be OPEN was ask my ISP for a static IP address. Once I had done that I was grand and have not had any problems being booted from a server since.