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BuzWeaver
Feb 6, 2007, 10:38 AM
I thought this was an encouraging story:

Source (http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/02/06/cider/index.php)



greatdevourer
Feb 6, 2007, 11:15 AM
Yaaay!

MacRumorUser
Feb 6, 2007, 11:17 AM
But it's only encouraging if you have an nvidia gpu in your mac.

Since the top of the line card Apple has is an ATI - it doesnt really help. :(

whooleytoo
Feb 6, 2007, 11:20 AM
Strange choice of name though.. choosing the name of an alcoholic drink doesn't exactly inspire thoughts of 'great performance'!

That said, this could be great news for Mac gamers - and bad news for Mac porting companies (as if they needed any more).

MacRumorUser
Feb 6, 2007, 11:22 AM
Strange choice of name though.. choosing the name of an alcoholic drink doesn't exactly inspire thoughts of 'great performance'!

That said, this could be great news for Mac gamers - and bad news for Mac porting companies (as if they needed any more).

I suppose they were thinking of the other technology for virtulization and stuff 'wine' and thought they had to come up with an appropriate drink based title :)

Eric5h5
Feb 6, 2007, 11:51 AM
But it's only encouraging if you have an nvidia gpu in your mac.

No, cg runs on anything. It doesn't matter if you have Nvidia or ATI/AMD.

As for Cider, I'm sure it's a WINE reference, but just to be nitpicky, it's not actually alcoholic. Look it up in the dictionary. ;) (Hard cider, on the other hand....)

--Eric

greatdevourer
Feb 6, 2007, 11:55 AM
I suppose they were thinking of the other technology for virtulization and stuff 'wine' and thought they had to come up with an appropriate drink based title :) I guess that makes the next version Calvados :D

bousozoku
Feb 6, 2007, 12:10 PM
But it's only encouraging if you have an nvidia gpu in your mac.

Since the top of the line card Apple has is an ATI - it doesnt really help. :(

I think it's more leverage than cooperation. Cooperation would have been if ATI had been included.

Still, it's enough that it might get ATI's attention to do more for Mac OS X.

Eric5h5
Feb 6, 2007, 02:39 PM
Still, it's enough that it might get ATI's attention to do more for Mac OS X.

They already do a lot more for OS X than Nvidia ever did. (ATI Displays software, working with Apple on OpenGL, etc.)

I repeat, this does not mean Cider-ized games won't work on ATI cards. Cg runs on everything. ATI cards will plays these games just fine. No need to panic. ;)

--Eric

bousozoku
Feb 6, 2007, 06:58 PM
They already do a lot more for OS X than Nvidia ever did. (ATI Displays software, working with Apple on OpenGL, etc.)

I repeat, this does not mean Cider-ized games won't work on ATI cards. Cg runs on everything. ATI cards will plays these games just fine. No need to panic. ;)

--Eric

I just remember how odd the performance was with UT2004 and the Radeon 9800. I'd hate to see something like that happen again as Apple will likely continue with ATI cards as their highest performance cards.

eXan
Feb 6, 2007, 10:05 PM
I just remember how odd the performance was with UT2004 and the Radeon 9800.

Was it bad? :eek:

Eric5h5
Feb 6, 2007, 10:10 PM
I just remember how odd the performance was with UT2004 and the Radeon 9800.

I've never heard of anything "odd" regarding that. Typically ATI cards have had somewhat better drivers on Macs. Indeed, nothing odd here (http://www.insidemacgames.com/reviews/view.php?ID=548&Page=2). (If you turn on FSAA and AF, the 9800 is nearly as fast as a Nvidia 6800, which is supposed to be a generation newer, and the Radeon X800--the same generation--walks all over it.)

--Eric

Martin.
Feb 7, 2007, 10:45 PM
maybe they called it cider because "apple cider" and it runs on apples?? yes? :)