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Rajj
Jun 5, 2003, 07:43 PM
I want to learn Linux, so which is the best version (http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html) to use on PPC?
Thanx.
MrMacMan
Jun 5, 2003, 07:54 PM
Um... what are you going to use it for is my question?
I need a little, wee bit more info...
Rajj
Jun 5, 2003, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Um... what are you going to use it for is my question?
I need a little, wee bit more info...
When you choose the PPC platform, it gives you the choices of:
Debian
SuSe
Mandrake
And Yellow Dog
I just want to know which one to use!!
Thanx.
MrMacMan
Jun 5, 2003, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Rajj
When you choose the PPC platform, it gives you the choices of:
Debian
SuSe
Mandrake
And Yellow Dog
I just want to know which one to use!!
Thanx.
uhhh, I know this...
I wanted to know what you wanted to USE it for...
Some Linux platforms do better on certain things over other linux's.
If you were to say, web or coding or programs... maybe specific examples... or a beginner Linux...
'Cannot Compute: More infomation Required:
shadowfax
Jun 5, 2003, 08:07 PM
never used any, but Mandrake is a pretty easy linux to learn, and i have heard some really cool stuff about YDL. i would try that route. ultimately it's not like you're going to lose anything by doing this so just pick one and try it.
actripxl
Jun 5, 2003, 08:09 PM
Well I wanna install linux on mine and from others I hear mandrake is really easy to install and run, I downloaded the cd's but got corrupted and its hard to do it again since I still have dial up. Personally Im gonna try Gentoo linux with their live cd's, mind you I used to run linux when I had a pc which was about 2 years ago so I do have some knowledge.
Rajj
Jun 5, 2003, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by actripxl
Well I wanna install linux on mine and from others I hear mandrake is really easy to install and run,
Thanx dude, I am downloading it now!!
Originally posted by MrMacman I wanted to know what you wanted to USE it for...
I said I wanted to LEARN Linux!!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p
But thanx anyway. ;)
Rower_CPU
Jun 5, 2003, 08:33 PM
I also hear about a lot of people running YDL well, but I have no personal experience to say whether or not it's true.
MrMacMan
Jun 5, 2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Rajj
I said I wanted to LEARN Linux!!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p
But thanx anyway. ;)
Bah, learning one Linux doesn't mean you learn them all.
One may be good for begginers, while another has better speed.
Mandrake is good, YDL if your into graphical OS.
Rajj
Jun 5, 2003, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Bah, learning one Linux doesn't mean you learn them all.
One may be good for begginers, while another has better speed.
Mandrake is good, YDL if your into graphical OS.
Thanx, I'll try both!!
You gotta link, for a free copy of YDL?
applemacdude
Jun 5, 2003, 08:41 PM
I used to use Suse Linux on my old pw 6300. (One day I booted up with jaguar and it fried my motherboard.)
MrMacMan
Jun 5, 2003, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by applemacdude
I used to use Suse Linux on my old pw 6300. (One day I booted up with jaguar and it fried my motherboard.)
Ouch, what happened there?
actripxl
Jun 5, 2003, 08:50 PM
http://www.linuxiso.org
Rajj
Jun 5, 2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by actripxl
http://www.linuxiso.org
It seems like the Yellow dog don't want to download:mad: :confused:
any other linkx?
shadowfax
Jun 5, 2003, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Bah, learning one Linux doesn't mean you learn them all.
One may be good for begginers, while another has better speed.
Mandrake is good, YDL if your into graphical OS. having done both red hat and mandrake linux, i have to say, they really aren't that different. you learn one, you learn them all. also, what makes YDL better than mandrake for graphical OS? they both use the X Window system. you can get any window server you want for them.
MrMacMan
Jun 5, 2003, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by Shadowfax
having done both red hat and mandrake linux, i have to say, they really aren't that different. you learn one, you learn them all. also, what makes YDL better than mandrake for graphical OS? they both use the X Window system. you can get any window server you want for them.
IMO -- YDL does a better job of it.
Yeah they use the same window system, but that is only one component.
shadowfax
Jun 5, 2003, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
IMO -- YDL does a better job of it.
Yeah they use the same window system, but that is only one component. what else is there? the installer? that's like a one time thing.
maradong
Jun 5, 2003, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Rajj
I want to learn Linux, so which is the best version (http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html) to use on PPC?
Thanx.
wellwell.
best for learning is IMHO Mandrake 9.1
while debian is the best distribution out but quite difficult to configure it if you are not really experienced.
Rajj
Jun 5, 2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by maradong
wellwell.
best for learning is IMHO Mandrake 9.1
while debian is the best distribution out but quite difficult to configure it if you are not really experienced.
Mandrake 9.1 keeps getting corrupted while downloading, is there any other sites to download from?
Flynnstone
Jun 6, 2003, 12:03 AM
The *nixes are all very similar.
I use Redhat for pc. Redhat 9 actually looks good now.
For the PowerPC platform and use as a desktop machine, the best is ... OS X.
Nermal
Jun 6, 2003, 05:06 AM
I'll have to say YDL. While I personally haven't used it, I've heard that it's very good. I've used Mandrake on Intel and had problems with it, and I can't even get the Mandrake installer to work on my Mac!
maradong
Jun 6, 2003, 05:57 AM
Originally posted by Rajj
Mandrake 9.1 keeps getting corrupted while downloading, is there any other sites to download from?
well there are quite a lot of mirrors look on the mandrake site.
red hat sucks. only one year of updating and some other stupid things make me say this.
MacsRgr8
Jun 6, 2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Nermal
I'll have to say YDL. While I personally haven't used it, I've heard that it's very good. I've used Mandrake on Intel and had problems with it, and I can't even get the Mandrake installer to work on my Mac!
Please sign the Half-Life 2 for Mac Petition if you're interested in getting the game on the Mac! Or even if you don't care for games, to help out those of us who want it
I have YDL 3 installed on my iBook 700 MHz, and it's doing very well! Even got Airport support, gr8! OpenOffice also installed. Part the YDL install
I have it dual boot, though (other one = OS X ofcourse which I use more often :) )
BTW, only 21 signed petitions so far? I would love HL 2 on my Mac!
Rajj
Jun 6, 2003, 05:39 PM
When partitioning for YDL, which file system should I use?
Unix or free space?
And how do I install it?
zoetropeuk
Jun 6, 2003, 07:12 PM
I spent about 3 months researching different linux versions and ended up buying YDL. In my opinion it is by far the best version of linux available for PPC.
You must check out the Briq. It's basically a mini G4 computer the size of a CD-ROM drive that fits in the CD bar of a powermac. You can install YDL onto it and have a separate server built-in to your G4 tower.
This is wicked (http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/products/briQ/)
actripxl
Jun 6, 2003, 07:27 PM
Leave it as free space, I know mandrake ask what you would like to do with it. Try and find Live cd ver. for different distro's that way you have an idea about each one. Not all distro's offer live cd's especially ppc one's.
MacsRgr8
Jun 7, 2003, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Rajj
When partitioning for YDL, which file system should I use?
Unix or free space?
And how do I install it?
I usually partiton my drive knowing what I'm going to install in this way:
First 6 or so GB reserved for YDL
Rest for OS X (+ maybe a Data partition).
I use the disk utility of OS X install CD.
Then I install OS X.
Now comes Linux (use Partition druid on the install CD):
-first create a "boot loader" -partition (usuall a couple of MB's)
-then create a swap space (256 or 512 MB)
-Then the mount point "/", using up the rest of the partition reserved for linux.
I only reason why I install YDL on the FIRST 6 GB of my drive, is for ease of use of the Boot-loader. The problem is if you or someone else uses OS X-Startup Disk, you write that info in PRAM, disabling the Boot-loader. If the loader IS NOT on the first partition, you will have to manually change the open firmware to be able to use it again....
If it IS on the very first partition, you only need to zapp the PRAM, et voila! Much easier.
BTW. If you intend to only install Linux on your HD, well let the installer do it for you, automatically.
zarathustra
Jun 7, 2003, 10:56 AM
I have just finished an experiment with YDL 3.0 - installed on a DP 1.25GHz tower. I was so excited about trying something new something different - than bam! a letdown.
Don't understand me wrong, YDL was super easy to install, and it worked flawlessly, it was fast etc. But it reminded me so much of windows.... It is a thousand times more stable than windows, but trying to make my AE card work brought back memories of trying to make modems, video cards, etc. work on Windows. I saw IRQs, and DMAs, I missed photoshop and illustrator (gimp is blah at best, no CMYK support) and I was like: "****** this!"
Formatted hard drive, and back to OSX. Bliss. Of course I am biased, because I don't do any programming, or server kind of things - all my programs are on OSX. Plus the interface was driving me nuts - GIMP littered my screen with half a dozen little windows, the media player was hella confusing... The advantage of the open source community is definitely in the underlying technologies, but the unified and well thought out GUI is missing because 1 million users will have 1 million ways of interpreting the GUI. Which is a good thing from a personal freedom standpoint, but maddening from a user's view, who just wants an intuitive interface.
My experience was still good: easy install, fast, stable operating system. But the inability to get certain aspects of the hardware working (because I am a Linux n00b), inconsistencies of the GUI, lack of programs for my field of work, has made me abandon it as a workstatioin.
If I had an older Mac, collecting dust because it will only run OS9 well enough, YDL would be my first choice to install as a server, and use the comp again. :)
MacsRgr8
Jun 7, 2003, 11:32 AM
Well spoken, zarathustra
I have also actually haven't seen any reason to "must use" Linux, tnx to OS X!
Still it's fun to play with. And the idea of being able to know that OS X the only OS you'll ever need :cool:
mkaake
Jun 7, 2003, 11:51 AM
i was tempted to try out linux just so i could play half life, cause i knew they had a port, and they could also run it under wine. then i was reading the help files available online, and it said you had to have a x86 based proc. dang. part of me was hoping, just hoping, that there would be some way to play counter-strike on my mac after all...
matt
vniow
Jun 7, 2003, 02:28 PM
What about the Gentoo LiveCDs for PPC?
www.gentoo.org
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