Is this It (Photo)?

[gooddog]

If Apple markets such a clunker, it will lose a fortune.

This abomination CAN NOT be real.

---gooddog

[SubGothius]

By the way, what was that company that promised us the device to accelerate the PowerMacs and then was talking about bring out their own upgraded mac that looked like a retro metallic microphone with the fancy grill work ...

IIRC, that was Xtrem Mac. Looked like a giant Art Deco-styled mic (the big, rounded-rectanguar cast-aluminum kind like you might imagine Elvis or Buddy Holly using). I actually rather liked that design. While we're on the subject of old-tech design reinterpreted, how about a shell that looks like some old Dynaco amps I've seen (e.g. Mk. IVs (http://HTDoctor.com/Dynaco_Mk-IVs.jpg) or ST-70s (http://HTDoctor.com/Dynaco_ST-70c.jpg) will give you a very rough idea -- tho' the proportions would obviously be different), with a brushed sheetmetal shell bent with soft corners around the sides, top'n'bottom as a "shell", and perforated-metal inserts to cover the front and back (possibly wrapping over the top like the Dynacos, instead of having the solid sheetmetal sides wrap all the way around?), mebbe with a big, silver toggle switch for power. It'd be distinctively different, at least...

[Dont Hurt Me]

Man that thing looks fuggily, almost sterile after using a quicksilver, dont know if i could ever muster looking at that every day. I guess i could wait for the imac, but egad if this is really it then apples screwed up again.

[rogueimage]

I continued the lines of the edges of the box out to a vanishing point in photoshop, and then drew lines from that vanishing point to both the top and bottom bumps of the Apple logo. Logo and the case diminish to the same vanishing point. In other words, the logo is not crooked, as some have suggested, though it does look so at first glance.

To me, the perfectly straight halftone pattern is the greatest evidence against this picture's veracity. As has been noted, however, the picture was not simply converted to halftone in Photoshop, as there are definite shades of gray in the crumpled areas of the picture. At the very least, the image was halftoned, then layered onto itself pre-halftoning. On the other hand, it may be legitimate. Scanners are very sensitive to wrinkles in flat art, and may produce distinct shading even though there is not enough crumpling to actually distort the image.

The lighter area at the back of the box is, in fact, just the background behind the case. It is not even with the back edge of the case, and therefore is not clear acrylic.

The power button looks like it may have an Apple logo on it rather than the standard power symbol, but this is very difficult to tell.

I don't understand why the blurring would be necessary, unless the smuggler needed to cover something that could identify her. That corner of the case does not seem a likely place for ports, though it would be workable. There was blurring over the air holes on the leaked mirrored-door case image, and that picture was real. Does anyone know why the holes were blurred on that photo? The only reason I can think is that the photo was an Apple plant, and they didn't want people to know exactly what the case looked like. This doesn't make much sense, but I can see no reason a spy would feel compelled to cover the holes.

[bx329]

I hope this kick ass retro machine comes in beige. It looks like it packs a punch. I figure it's a speed demon with probably 32 mgs of ram and a 500 mg hard drive.

[pixybiter]

nope,
its violating some of jonny ive's little design rules. i think somone just took some of the rumors and did a little shirtsleeve industrial design....

try again.

[MetallicPenguin]

Originally posted by iSegway
http://www.angelfire.com/comics/happymac/powermac970.jpg

Is it just my imagination... or does lem0nayde's rendition of the design of the front of the "G5 fake" bring Star Wars and the Empire to mind?
I can see that as a PowerMac, but...it would look 80x better if it were a server/Xstation

[Rootman]

I've seen more realistic pics in Colin Powell's slide projector.

[gwuMACaddict]

i figured i'd better get a line in here somewhere... the longest thread i've seen in a while...

only mike dell could be proud of a computer that looked like this

and of course- if it is real- i'll come back with my tail between my legs and wait in line to buy one ;)

[iSegway]

I can see that as a PowerMac, but...it would look 80x better if it were a server/Xstation I am telling you... the Empire strikes back... :P Apple is back with a vengaence. :P
its violating some of jonny ive's little design rules. Could you elaborate on this?

[MetallicPenguin]

Originally posted by iSegway
[B]I am telling you... the Empire strikes back... :P Apple is back with a vengaence. :P


Yeah actually that does remind me quite a bit about Star Wars!:p

[stillamacuser]

Thanks for the clues.

Don't ask any questions. I dragged this out in my pants.

[MetallicPenguin]

Okay, I'm getting tired of this, if it's real, Apple should've taken it down by now.

[MetallicPenguin]

Originally posted by stillamacuser
Thanks for the clues.

Don't ask any questions. I dragged this out in my pants.

Okay, now That is an air conditioning system!:rolleyes:

[Arcady]

I already owned one of these:

http://www.macbekas.com/images/quadra950m.jpg

I'm not sure I want another...

[macmusic]

OK, I just confirmed today that there are new macs. We configure them with Audio workstations, and sell hundreds a year.
The new machines are:
Powerbook Al 15
Dual 1.6
Dual 1.8
Dual 2.0
Not confirmed if it's G5, but as far as I know the G4 is maxed out at 1.42, and can't go further, but I may be mistaken. We do this for a living and need to know what is coming out, so our vendors always give us a heads up.
BAM!

[zimv20]

Originally posted by stillamacuser
Thanks for the clues.

Don't ask any questions. I dragged this out in my pants.

"intruder alert! intruder alert! destroy! destroy!"

dalek mac, anyone?

[williwilli]

http://particlestorm.dyndns.org/images/macfilez/g5-020.jpg

[MetallicPenguin]

Originally posted by macmusic
OK, I just confirmed today that there are new macs. We configure them with Audio workstations, and sell hundreds a year.
The new machines are:
Powerbook Al 15
Dual 1.6
Dual 1.8
Dual 2.0
Not confirmed if it's G5, but as far as I know the G4 is maxed out at 1.42, and can't go further, but I may be mistaken. We do this for a living and need to know what is coming out, so our vendors always give us a heads up.
BAM!

Are you serious?! That would be very nice! Tell us if you get info on what they look like!

[MetallicPenguin]

Originally posted by williwilli
http://particlestorm.dyndns.org/images/macfilez/g5-020.jpg

I like it, that's a mock-up right?

[yzedf]

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=117

[macmusic]

OK, but we never get pics, just the info. Also there are new prices for current machines:
Dual 1.25 $1699
Single 1Gig $1299
Dual 1.42 $1999-not sure
But these machines may not even be at the Apple store anymore, just resellers.

Officially Apple stopped manufacturing the Dual Boot 1.25 a couple of Friday's ago. OSX and beyond we go...no turning back now.

[job]

Originally posted by Parikh1234
hey all, im new in the forums but ive been reading macrumors for a while. I had to sign up today when they locked out the forums to all people other than registered users :) In any case, look what i found....dont know how real it is:

http://www.spymac.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=35329&papass=&sort=1&thecat=

I don't really care what the tower looks like as long as someone can confirm the validity of the above linked invitation.

Who cares what it looks like outside, I'm drooling over what might be inside.

[nick11]

Some people just don't get it.

First, it's OBVIOUSLY not beige. It's probably a very clean looking, high quality brushed aluminum.

Second, to anyone who says the picture "looks fake." Keep in mind what Apple's other press photos look like -- TOTALLY fake. The iPod, the iBook, etc. The iPod, the iBook... these look like vector renditions.

[chmorley]

Don't know if anyone else has posted this (I read about half of these 11 pages), but AppleInsider has the same photo, but without the creases and such. It is labeled "Artist Rendition".

Check it out:

http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=116

Chris

[sickracer2015]

yeah its bad.. and how about the fact that there isnt a slot loading 4x superdrive...

[fpetters]

I think the thing looks bad ass...

would apple legal get on my case if I made a touch up of this and posted it? I am not sure how they work, but I am a kid at Virginia Tech and like playing with photoshop but don't want to get any letters from apple...any ideas?

[job]

Originally posted by macmusic
Also there are new prices for current machines:
Dual 1.25 $1699
Single 1Gig $1299
Dual 1.42 $1999-not sure

Where are you quoting these prices from?

[tgrundke]

I am completely scoobied by the people who reject this *speculated* box merely based upon its looks!

At this point, with Macintoshes so comparatively slow, WHO GIVES A FLYING **** WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AS LONG AS IT PERFORMS LIKE A ROCKET?!?!

[mod edit - Don't circumvent the profanity filter.]

[stillamacuser]

More clues:

http://www.macopz.com/xtrem/

http://theapplecollection.com/design/macproto/1200-MHz.html

[pcp_ip]

Originally posted by Kid Red
Wrong. Grab a newspaper and scan an image at twice the size in inches not dpi and you'll see the dots. That's the reason you see the dots, because this printed image has been blown up, otherwise the dots are barely noticeable. And your wrinkle theory is incorrect, they are not deep enough to sway the dots, scanners are notorious for picking up the slightest less then perfectly flat imperfections.

I'm sorry, what wringle theory did I mention? the halftone pattern is from a lpi less 133. newspaper quality. i can't believe apple is mocking up newspaper ads with their new hardware in full halftone glory

and it's still on my site (http://www.studio2f.com/misc/) so, I'm assuming apple legal isn't shutting down anyone.

[chmorley]

Since last posts on pages somtimes get missed, check out the "Artist Rendition" at AppleInsider:

http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=116

It's the same photo.

Chris
http://appleinsider.com/images/pmg5.gif
p.s., arn--if this violates your "don't post the pic" request, I apologize. I figured it wasn't the same photo and wasn't on your server.

[job]

Originally posted by tgrundke
WHO GIVES A FLYING **** WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AS LONG AS IT PERFORMS LIKE A ROCKET?!?!

Werd. ;) :p :D
Can anyone comment on that Spymac gallery image? Is it real or not?

[job]

Originally posted by job
Can anyone comment on that Spymac gallery image? Is it real or not?

I'm talking about this:

[SubGothius]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
Okay, now That is an air conditioning system!:rolleyes:

No, actually, that was exactly what the Xtrem Mac "gigantic art-deco microphone" case design looked like (see several posts back). In fact, I think the artist/poster used Xtrem's actual design mockup for that illustration, just for the amusement of those of us here who remember it... :D

[macmusic]

Originally posted by job
Where are you quoting these prices from?

These are teh new prices we are paying today as we cut ou new PO's. I just don't want the vendor to get in any brew ha ha.

[NeXTCube]

Originally posted by chmorley
Since last posts on pages somtimes get missed, check out the "Artist Rendition" at AppleInsider:

Verrry interesting. Very interesting indeed.

[williwilli]

Originally posted by SubGothius
No, actually, that was exactly what the Xtrem Mac "gigantic art-deco microphone" case design looked like (see several posts back). In fact, I think the artist/poster used Xtrem's actual design mockup for that illustration, just for the amusement of those of us here who remember it... :D

yup, as featured on macosrumors

[suzerain]

When I saw that mockup, I *instantly* thought: World Trade Center.

It might just be because I live in NYC, but if they are metal, as rumored, that'll only make it worse.

Whether it's real or not, I have no idea. But evoking the towers is bad, and I hope whatever it looks like, it doesn't do that.

[iSegway]

Originally posted by suzerain
When I saw that mockup, I *instantly* thought: World Trade Center.

It might just be because I live in NYC, but if they are metal, as rumored, that'll only make it worse.

Whether it's real or not, I have no idea. But evoking the towers is bad, and I hope whatever it looks like, it doesn't do that.

Maybe Ives is becoming a real artist, not just a fancy designer:confused:

[davei]

If they're going for workstations, Apple should steal a page from SGI's book. Totally square, dead heavy steel inside case, with a "purely for looks" outside plastic shell. Make it rounded and toaster looking, like the O2, but wicked fast inside.

[chmorley]

I could be wrong, but I would say that the fact that an image appearing on AppleInsider as an "Artist Rendition" that is then modified qualifies as a fake. Compare the two side by side. The fake clearly comes from the "Artist Rendition".

I believe this issue is settled.

Chris

[job]

Originally posted by chmorley
I could be wrong, but I would say that the fact that an image appearing on AppleInsider as an "Artist Rendition" that is then modified qualifies as a fake. Compare the two side by side. The fake clearly comes from the "Artist Rendition".

I believe this issue is settled.

Chris

Remember Thinksecret's "artist's rendition?" ;)

The story associated with the "rendition" mentions the iPod mockup from Thinksecret....

Just maybe... :cool:

[Groovsonic]

Originally posted by macmusic
OK, I just confirmed today that there are new macs. We configure them with Audio workstations, and sell hundreds a year.
The new machines are:
Powerbook Al 15
Dual 1.6
Dual 1.8
Dual 2.0
Not confirmed if it's G5, but as far as I know the G4 is maxed out at 1.42, and can't go further, but I may be mistaken. We do this for a living and need to know what is coming out, so our vendors always give us a heads up.
BAM!

Heck, those would be nice even if they were still G4!

[gandalf55]

if this is close to a real design, i hope someone comes out with a case mod for it - ya it looks mean - but it looks like a pc. at least it still has handles - and i understand the need for maximum air flow... but ewwwwwww.

[iSegway]

Originally posted by chmorley
I could be wrong, but I would say that the fact that an image appearing on AppleInsider as an "Artist Rendition" that is then modified qualifies as a fake. Compare the two side by side. The fake clearly comes from the "Artist Rendition".

I believe this issue is settled.

Chris

I'm a bit confused.... I thought the artist rendition was of the "fake G5" photo.

It even has the mistaken translucent plastic(?) edge or cutoff background. lol

This is all getting very confusing. :P

[MetallicPenguin]

Originally posted by SubGothius
No, actually, that was exactly what the Xtrem Mac "gigantic art-deco microphone" case design looked like (see several posts back). In fact, I think the artist/poster used Xtrem's actual design mockup for that illustration, just for the amusement of those of us here who remember it... :D
Yeah I just realized that a minute ago before i read your post, but you have to agree that it looks like an old air cinditioning system in that other picture!:p

[bobindashadows]

Originally posted by nick11
Some people just don't get it.

First, it's OBVIOUSLY not beige. It's probably a very clean looking, high quality brushed aluminum.

Everybody who was saying "make it beige and add two floppies" and jokes about beige were joking ;) Nobody thinks it is beige, they were (mostly) simply commenting on it's boxy appearance and it's resemblence to computers gone by.

[chmorley]

Originally posted by job
Remember Thinksecret's "artist's rendition?" ;)

The story associated with the "rendition" mentions the iPod mockup from Thinksecret....

Just maybe... :cool: Yeah, you have a point, but they're not exactly the same thing. The Thinksecret Artist Rendition looked like a sketch of a real thing. The fact that it turned out to be accurate demonstrated that they had good info. However, the pic at AppleInsider is man-made--it looks it, and they say it is. The other pic is the exact same thing, at the exact same angle--it is a modified version of the first photo. Compare the two and tell me if you see it differently.

If not, modifying a man-made image doesn't make it real.

I don't mind the design. If it's 100% accurate, that would be okay with me, especially if there is a 970 inside. It is still a modified man-made image.

Chris

[topicolo]

Those gratings on the front could prove to be massive air ducts for the new processor. If they are, the ppc 970 must be one hot motha!

[pyrotoaster]

Originally posted by topicolo
Those gratings on the front could prove to be massive air ducts for the new processor. If they are, the ppc 970 must be one hot motha!
All the current info indicates that the 970 doesn't run that hot. Low speed models apparently use less power than even slower G4s.

[iSegway]

All the current info indicates that the 970 doesn't run that hot. Low speed models apparently use less power than even slower G4s.

Then massive air ducts might allow for no fan at all... :D

[MetallicPenguin]

Let's all close the topic here and see what happens at he WWDC......no...this is just way too JuICy!;)

The above post reminds me of some sort of AlienWare Model

[job]

This:

http://homepage.mac.com/perkristian/.Pictures/G5_grill.jpg

was claimed by the original poster at Appleinsider to be a mockup he put together.

I'm not so sure if it's really a 'mockup.' Look at the metal textures on the sides. :eek:

[jamall]

If you scale the two pictures to the same size and layer them one on top of the other, they match up perfectly, Apple logo and all. One is obviously based (very closely!) on the other, but which one?

Until I saw the AppleInsider pic i was nearly convinced that this was the real thing, but now I'm not so sure. Ports in the recess of the bottom handle, an illuminated Apple logo on the power button, and a sleek yet conservative no-nonsense brushed aluminium appearance - it's very 21st century Apple. I must admit that the curvy/plasticy G4 tower design is getting a bit old, despite the updates. I wouldn't be surprised if this is very close to what we see next week.;)

[edgar_is_good]

I don't know what you mean that they're the exact same thing. The lines separating the front panels on the appleinsider image are white, while in the "dontask" image they seem thinner and grey. Anyhow, the AI image might have been based on the dontask image, but it doesn't seem that this is merely a scan of a printout or anything...

Not that I'm saying it's real.

[aptenergy]

Originally posted by macmusic
OK, I just confirmed today that there are new macs. We configure them with Audio workstations, and sell hundreds a year.
The new machines are:
Powerbook Al 15
Dual 1.6
Dual 1.8
Dual 2.0
Not confirmed if it's G5, but as far as I know the G4 is maxed out at 1.42, and can't go further, but I may be mistaken. We do this for a living and need to know what is coming out, so our vendors always give us a heads up.
BAM!

Can anyone verify this? This would be humongous.........

[MasterX (OSiX)]

isnt it possible someone with illustrator simply outlined the dont ask pic? Its not hard, in fact, some would argue easy.

[adamfilip]

man that pic of the front grill sure looks real..

i like it..

[iSegway]

Is that "mock up" the floor from the Deathstar or the Millenium Falcon? Or Aliens? Weird. :p

[job]

Originally posted by adamfilip
man that pic of the front grill sure looks real..

I know. That's what I think as well. Can anyone make metallic textures that look that real with the whole 'flash light' effect?

If that's what's coming on the 23rd...hell yeah. :D

[MasterX (OSiX)]

Originally posted by job
I know. That's what I think as well. Can anyone make metallic textures that look that real with the whole 'flash light' effect?

If that's what's coming on the 23rd...hell yeah. :D

problem is that the slots are pure black and the lines are perfectly parallel. I know i cant get a photo that good, even with a Canon S50 :-D.

[Booga]

Originally posted by rogueimage
To me, the perfectly straight halftone pattern is the greatest evidence against this picture's veracity.

I keep seeing people say this, but near as I can tell, it's not true. I centered the image on the middle crease, blew up the image so that about 30 dots appeared on my screen with the crease in the middle, and held up a straightedge aligned with the top dots. The dots below the crevice did not fall on the same line near the crease.

I am also not saying it's real, but the halftone is NOT perfect. It is quite clearly slightly perturbed near the major crease at high magnification. Whatever it is, I'm willing to believe that it was at some point printed it out in halftone and re-scanned, at least.

[veedubdrew]

Originally posted by job
I'm talking about this:

The invite to the apple store has a grammatical error in it. The part "...OS X, codenamed 'Panther', ..." is wrong.

A comma always belongs within quotations, so it should have been "...OS X, codenamed 'Panther,'..." with the comma following the word Panther within its quotations.

The fact that there is an obvious error in a (supposedly) printed Apple document leads me to believe that it's fake. However I've seen errors like this on their website, so who knows.

[mim]

Originally posted by job
I know. That's what I think as well. Can anyone make metallic textures that look that real with the whole 'flash light' effect?

If that's what's coming on the 23rd...hell yeah. :D

Don't know about you guys, but we have plenty of metallic panels kicking around our offices. Some of them are even slotted. I think it would be fairly easy to photoshop this up. It looks pretty realistic though, so even if it's fake it's a pretty impressive work of art.

It does look about right for a robust, well equiped 2U sized case. Looks good to me - distinguished even. Remember apple's recent push into enterprise services? Hmmmmm....

[Digipimp]

Am I the only person that thinks that bad boy looks an awful lot like a photoshopped shopping bag?

[tjwett]

well i just took the "Artist Rendition" from Apple Insider and layered it over our little crumpled rumor photo and they are an EXACT match in all ratios and EVERYTHING lines up perectly. so i think it's pretty clear that this picture is actually just a majorly doctored image of the "Artist's Rendition" made to look like something from a newspaper or print piece. OR original picture is indeed real and the Artist Rendition was created from it by simply scanning into Illustrator or Streamline to create a vector version just by applying a filter. Either way I'm 100% that either they both come from the same source image or one is the source for the other, no question about it.

[pyrotoaster]

If this is real, why hasn't Apple Legal jumped on Mac Rumors?

[job]

Here's to adding more fuel to the fire:

http://home.midsouth.rr.com/sontag/face.jpg

The was posted on the IMG forums. I think this was discussed a while back as possible proof that this image came from some sort of print media. Is it an image from the other side? Or is it just a random oddity?

[job]

Originally posted by pyrotoaster
If this is real, why hasn't Apple Legal jumped on Mac Rumors?

Has it even been 24 hours since this thing surfaced? I think you're giving Apple legal a little too much credit. ;) :p :)

[mim]

Originally posted by veedubdrew
The invite to the apple store has a grammatical error in it. The part "...OS X, codenamed 'Panther', ..." is wrong.

A comma always belongs within quotations, so it should have been "...OS X, codenamed 'Panther,'..." with the comma following the word Panther within its quotations.

The fact that there is an obvious error in a (supposedly) printed Apple document leads me to believe that it's fake. However I've seen errors like this on their website, so who knows.

Yeah, I've come across this error in all sorts of published matter, but you have to realise that designers are often cheeky little buggers who do this on purpose because having the comma before the quote offends their sense of balance.

Maybe you graphic designers can let us know if this happens all the time, because I've see them change the comma position before final printing on a couple of occasions :p

Just plain cheeky.

[mustang_dvs]

Originally posted by MasterX (OSiX)
problem is that the slots are pure black and the lines are perfectly parallel. I know i cant get a photo that good, even with a Canon S50 :-D.

Push the midtones up and blow out the shadows and you will notice that the slots are not perfectly black, nor are they uniform, in fact, there is a series of horizontal lines that run through the lines -- they are not uniformly spaced, but they are consistently placed from one slot to the next, horizontally. As for how to get these slots perfectly vertical, it can be done by using a good tripod head with a built-in level and a leveled light table, which most professional photography studios have (or, Photoshop's rotate command).

I'm not saying it's real, but I'm not saying it's fake. Just remember, however, when the first photos of the MDD macs were posted to MacB, everyone exclaimed that the speaker perspective was distorted and therefore the design was fake.

[mim]

Originally posted by job
Here's to adding more fuel to the fire:

http://home.midsouth.rr.com/sontag/face.jpg

The was posted on the IMG forums. I think this was discussed a while back as possible proof that this image came from some sort of print media. Is it an image from the other side? Or is it just a random oddity?

Looks like a picture of a naked woman to me.

[iSegway]

Originally posted by tjwett
well i just took the "Artist Rendition" from Apple Insider and layered it over our little crumpled rumor photo and they are an EXACT match in all ratios and EVERYTHING lines up perectly. so i think it's pretty clear that this picture is actually just a majorly doctored image of the "Artist's Rendition" made to look like something from a newspaper or print piece. OR original picture is indeed real and the Artist Rendition was created from it by simply scanning into Illustrator or Streamline to create a vector version just by applying a filter. Either way I'm 100% that either they both come from the same source image or one is the source for the other, no question about it.

How do you know which one came first though? This is why I am confused. When did the "artists rendering" first come about? When did this "fake G5" photo come about?

[harmless]

... to tell you my own thoughts about that image.

I think it's real.

This was apparently cut out from some (preprint?) promotional material, folded up and scanned in later.

Look at it. The perspective is just perfect for an add. Makes the machine looking big and bad. (Certainly bigger than it is - I hope it's just as bad-ass as it looks, though. ;) )

The raster is above the wrinkles because it was produced by the scanning process. The lower left corner was blurred after scanning, so it's above the raster.

There are no reset or eject buttons on current PowerMacs so it's likely there won't be any on the new ones.

The reason the lower handle seem 'further away' from the case than the upper one is, because there are probably some ports located down there - possibly along with a headphone jack. (Seem to be covered in the picture somehow.)

Looking at the media slot, the tower is a bit smaller than the current ones - which fits previous rumors.

The cover above the slot loading drive might be larger than that below because it would need a hinge to accomodate a drive with tray.

I agree with others that the minimalistic design fits with Apple's current lineup (PowerBook, XServe) - and it draws a hard line between the older PowerMacs and the new machines (which is something that Apple would clearly want, considering the less-than great reputation of the current G4's in terms of computing power).

So while I'm not _sure_ this is real, I can't see a single point that would rule it out.

That said, I don't like it. Looks boring to me.

But then again I also like the design of my old b&w G3 better than that of my new MDD PowerMac. So YMMV ...


bye. Andreas.

[Nutzoids]

The imprint on the pic that Job posted looks like a smily face. If you invert the color of the original picture and zoom in 2x you can see an out line of eyes and a mouth. Well....at least thats what it looks like to me!


:) :confused:

[edgar_is_good]

Originally posted by mim
Looks like a picture of a naked woman to me.

Looks like a smiley face sticking its tounge out at us to me...

[tjwett]

Fake, see below.

[zoozx]

Thank god it is a fake!
That is Ugly.
Since Apple left this up all day pretty much proves its a fake.:D

[bertinman]

not sure if this was said already... 13 pages of messages isn't exactly appealing for a topic like this.

anyway, my 2 cents.

I think it is a desk version of the Xserve. Lots of companies have both rack and desk servers. The picture would look very nice next to a bunch of rack mounted xserves right now. Also, there is only one drive... the new MMD's have two, why take that away unless it is aimed at people who only need one drive (if at all).

- bert

[mim]

Originally posted by edgar_is_good
Looks like a smiley face sticking its tounge out at us to me...

Maybe you're just too young to see it ;)

[lem0nayde]

Interested in the point someone brought up about the halftoning being perfect and therefore faked - I brought it into photoshop to investigate.

taking a closeup look of the upper left of the box where there is a wrinkle and drawing squares at regular intervals over the halftone dot pattern - I actually see quite a bit of change. See for yourself:

http://www.bitterlemonstudio.com/infamous_halftone.gif

[mustang_dvs]

Sorry for the large photos, but here is what I am talking about:
http://www.x-plane.org/users/mustangdvs/fark/G5_grill2.jpg

(made with these curves -- the only modification)
http://www.x-plane.org/users/mustangdvs/fark/curves.gif

[mangoduck]

call me cheeky, but logically a comma should be outside. typing it the "right" way would make a programmers head hurt - and i can say for a fact it does. my head hurts just looking at that.

grammar can be the funkiest thing.

[suzerain]

Originally posted by mim
Yeah, I've come across this error in all sorts of published matter, but you have to realise that designers are often cheeky little buggers who do this on purpose because having the comma before the quote offends their sense of balance.

Maybe you graphic designers can let us know if this happens all the time, because I've see them change the comma position before final printing on a couple of occasions :p

Just plain cheeky.


Sorry, guys...but you are being a bit overzealous in labeling that as "wrong".

There are multiple style guides of English, and they differ in opinion on the topic. In short, it depends on who you ask -- and both ways are acceptable.

In this case, IIRC what makes it acceptable (by some style guides) to have the comma on the outside of the quote, is that "Panther" is not a 'complete thought' (meaning, it can't stand alone as a sentence).

(I used to be an editor, which is the only reason I'm belaboring this discussion. English is NOT a strict rules-based language...there are multiple acceptable opinions on lots of stuff like this, not to mention three distinct areas, each with their own rules: British Isles, North America, Australia.)

That said, to get back on topic...even if that were a grammatical error, errors that small are made in printed materials by every company, every day.

It's evidence of nothing.

[RAzaRazor]

The metal looking picture above certainly looks like real metal.

The only problem is that it looks like galvanized steel, and not the aluminum used in the PowerBooks. Not even close.

[harmless]

Originally posted by veedubdrew
A comma always belongs within quotations,

Well, at least in German it does not ...


bye. Andreas.

[job]

Originally posted by Nutzoids
The imprint on the pic that Job posted looks like a smily face. If you invert the color of the original picture and zoom in 2x you can see an out line of eyes and a mouth. Well....at least thats what it looks like to me!

Originally posted by edgar_is_good
Looks like a smiley face sticking its tounge out at us to me...

It's like the Shroud of Turin... ;) :D

[mim]

Originally posted by suzerain
Sorry, guys...but you are being a bit overzealous in labeling that as "wrong".

There are multiple style guides of English, and they differ in opinion on the topic. In short, it depends on who you ask -- and both ways are acceptable.

In this case, IIRC what makes it acceptable (by some style guides) to have the comma on the outside of the quote, is that "Panther" is not a 'complete thought' (meaning, it can't stand alone as a sentence).

That said, to get back on topic...even if that were a grammatical error, errors that small are made in printed materials by every company, every day.

It's evidence of nothing.

Thanks, that actually makes a lot of sense.

[tjwett]

okay, here we go. this is the Artist Rendition from Apple Insider layered with the alleged stolen print ad or whatever that started this whole thing on top of it at 61% opacity. i think it's obvious they are from the same source or one is the source of the other. also note, that mysterious ring does not appear on the Artist Rendition.

[Arcady]

It does look about right for a robust, well equiped 2U sized case.

I don't see how it can possibly be 2U. Take a CD and put it on edge and it is a lot taller than 3.5 inches. To fit a 5.25" drive mechanism in a rack on its side, you would need at least 3U, and probably 4U.

And who knows if this thing is even real?

[macriffic]

It's a fake. Although it looks like a photo Apple might use in terms of its angle, notice that the edge of the face tilts back. Apple always shoots their photos with the edge of face straight up and down--go check the Apple website.

[mim]

Originally posted by RAzaRazor
The metal looking picture above certainly looks like real metal.

The only problem is that it looks like galvanized steel, and not the aluminum used in the PowerBooks. Not even close.

This is actually a good point (although slightly wrong)

The material in the image is brushed stainless steel (galvanising looks kind of splotchy). Anodising aluminium produces a texture, but that texture is an even 'grain' - not at all like what is in the image. I don't believe that there is such a thing as a brushed anodised aluminium finish.

<edit: actually I think I was wrong: allowing for the jgep compression screwing around with the colour & texture it could well still be anodised aluminium.>

[Plastic Chicken]

Does it mean anything that the big facade pict has 18 rows of vertical columns and the perspective that looks like it's from a newspaper only has 22?

I think it's fake, simply because creating a fake and watching the discussion is so much fun.

[RAzaRazor]

Originally posted by job
Here's to adding more fuel to the fire:

http://home.midsouth.rr.com/sontag/face.jpg

The was posted on the IMG forums. I think this was discussed a while back as possible proof that this image came from some sort of print media. Is it an image from the other side? Or is it just a random oddity?

I was able to further enhance the image and was surpised to find this: I suck at photoshop, so the wiggly black lines are mine.

http://www.ubernoodle.com/face2.jpg

Clearly an evil frilly tuxedo wearing version of Krusty the Clown is behind all of this!!

[fpetters]

Just had some fun with this one, just a copy of other pics, put in 3D with some photoshop work and simple bryce...just a kid having fun!

The apple logo is the wrong way on one of the sides, just so you see it is a fake!

3-D View (http://filebox.vt.edu/users/fpetters/g.html) :D

[WM.]

Originally posted by tjwett
okay, here we go. this is the Artist Rendition from Apple Insider layered with the alleged stolen print ad or whatever that started this whole thing on top of it at 61% opacity. i think it's obvious they are from the same source or one is the source of the other. also note, that mysterious ring does not appear on the Artist Rendition.
And you know what? That looks like an actual photo (kinda), and now it doesn't seem a half-bad design. I think we may have fallen prey to bad-photo syndrome (a la the MDD and Quicksilver).

Thanks for making that.
WM

[WM.]

Originally posted by job
This:

was claimed by the original poster at Appleinsider to be a mockup he put together.

I'm not so sure if it's really a 'mockup.' Look at the metal textures on the sides. :eek:
I find this a far more important picture than the dontask one. I'd like someone with more Photoshop experience than I to interpret the version of this with the crazy color curve thing, and let us know if that points toward fake or real.

Anyway, I find this image more believable than the other one. BUT, there seems to be some fairly serious dithering on the aluminum texture, which points to a less-than-professional photo and/or one that Apple would NOT use, which would make it difficult to get all the vents lined up. (Someone posted that that was possible for a professional.) In other words, it can't be professional because of the dithering, but it must be professional because of how straight the vents are.

Now I see that mim has brought up the possibility of the JPEG compression screwing with the texture. I tend to agree with him--ever seen a bad JPEG of the Aqua window widgets or a Brushed Metal window? It looks about the same as the texture in this new photo. So maybe it is real. What a roller coaster!

But it's hard to argue with Plastic Chicken's point about the number of vents. Good eye!!

WM

[tjwett]

Originally posted by WM.
And you know what? That looks like an actual photo (kinda), and now it doesn't seem a half-bad design. I think we may have fallen prey to bad-photo syndrome (a la the MDD and Quicksilver).

Thanks for making that.
WM

hey, no sweat. i thought the same thing as soon as i was done with it. here's what i think now. there was indeed a real image taken at some point from somewhere. i believe this image was imported into Illustrator or Streamline or some other drawing program and either it was traced or filtered or whatever in order to make the "artist rendition" from Apple Insider. that's why they are identically proportionate. who knows what that wrinkled up picture went through before it got to us. could've been scanned, then jpeg'd, then stuck in someone's pants, then beat up in a bar fight, then scanned again, and then posted on the web as a butt-ugly gif that we all hate. who knows, really? what is sure is that they were both definitely created from the same source, be it a vector drawing, photograph, or print advert.

[ozubahn]

In addition to the disparity in the number of vertical vent slits, the front elevation image has a problem with the central power button. Apple would pay more attention to getting the button centered, I expect. The vent slits come closer to the button from above than below. That's an easy mistake to make when cooking up Photoshop confections, but it is less likely to survive all the various CAD and design review stages.

[rogueimage]

Originally posted by macriffic
It's a fake. Although it looks like a photo Apple might use in terms of its angle, notice that the edge of the face tilts back. Apple always shoots their photos with the edge of face straight up and down--go check the Apple website.

This is the best evidence yet that the image is a fake, IMO. Companies like Apple are very strict about how their products are presented. The angles of photos are prescribed, as are the background and lighting. I am starting to believe, however, that the image, while fake, is very close to what we will actually see.

As far as the straight-on, full color image, it looks too good to be fake. The blown-out version of it makes it clear that the vents are not simply painted on, as there is variation in the color. More importantly, the pattern in each vent is different, so they are not clones of one vent. The dark horizontal bands are interior braces of the vents, barely visible from the outside. It's extremely unlikely that someone would think this far into a hoax.

There are two strikes against this image, though. First, It is so high quality (perfectly straight on, high resolution) that it would practically have to be from an original Apple press image. People with access to such originals are surely scarce, and not anxious to betray Apple's trust. Second, The horizontal ribs do not line up on opposite sides of the power button. This is not a deal-killer for me, as it could actually be that way because of the innards of the machine.

Of course, there's always the possibility that the images are plants, intended to feel out the consumers. It seems a little late to be doing coercive test marketing like that, though.

One thing is certain, though. The halftone image and the front panel image cannot both be real photographs, as the number of slots differs.

[Dignan]

People have been talking about that reverse image or whatnot that shows an imprint...am I the only one that thinks it looks like a footprint/shoe print? Like it was laying on the ground and someone stepped on it.

[Gymnut]

Originally posted by acj
But it should be bigger, more square, and beige with two floppy drives.

WIth two floppy drives?? I thought Apple did away with built in floppy disk drives back in 1999 with the inception of the original iMac.

[ozubahn]

Originally posted by rogueimage
This is the best evidence yet that the image is a fake, IMO. Companies like Apple are very strict about how their products are presented. The angles of photos are prescribed, as are the background and lighting.

I don't really understand this logic. This image, if it is real, has obviously been through hell. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in the alleged photopraph/print/crumple/scan sequence it happened to get tilted a few degrees. There isn't anything else in the image that provides a definite reference for horizontal.

[rogueimage]

Originally posted by ozubahn
I don't really understand this logic. This image, if it is real, has obviously been through hell. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in the alleged photopraph/print/crumple/scan sequence it happened to get tilted a few degrees. There isn't anything else in the image that provides a definite reference for horizontal.

If you measure the angle of the left front edge compared to the right front edge, they are quite different, indicating the shot is not straight on.

[Jimong5]

I took a spin with my nonexistant photoshopping skills, but have found: the apple logo matches snugly with a stock powermac photo, and that the lighter areas on the case also match up with a wand tolerance of ~15

[ozubahn]

Originally posted by rogueimage
If you measure the angle of the left front edge compared to the right front edge, they are quite different, indicating the shot is not straight on.

Ah, so you mean that it is not shot with the optical axis in a horizontal plane. I figured they might have chosen to sacrifice that luxury for the towering monolith look. :)

[Doctor Q]

Originally posted by veedubdrew
A comma always belongs within quotations, so it should have been "...OS X, codenamed 'Panther,'..." with the comma following the word Panther within its quotations.It's a matter of editor preference and cultural habit. The British generally put quotes around only the quoted material, which is more sensible. Americans tend to include punctuation within the quotes, but this is not always true. So I don't think we can conclude anything one way or another.

By the way, this grammar issue was discussed in the words that just shouldn't be (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23932) thread.

Edit: Have you seen the view count on this thread? It's now over 50,000. That's certainly an incentive for somebody to post fake photos of new hardware!

[noverflow]

the appleinsider one and the one that started this thread are NOT the same

count the vent holes
ai one: 16
thread one: 22

wonder whos was made first?

[sonicsessions]

heh... this is like the "Apple Forensics Lab"... we've all been watching too much CSI...

[Future Man]

If this is a real picture it is one of the drawings that is used in a catalog like B&H Photo.
Most of those places with a five million item inventory use small black and white drawings that resemble this picture a lot in style. Maybe that is what is blocked out, the resellers name.
I don't think apple would make a slot loading pro machine, but on the other hand maybe they have something we don't know about.
As far as ports on the front go, I agree with Blakespot, that the lower portion could be drop down panel that hides i/o.
If this were the machine I would not be surprised, if it was not the machine I also would not be surprised.
We?ll all know soon enough.

[Jordy]

Originally posted by veedubdrew
The invite to the apple store has a grammatical error in it. The part "...OS X, codenamed 'Panther', ..." is wrong.

A comma always belongs within quotations, so it should have been "...OS X, codenamed 'Panther,'..." with the comma following the word Panther within its quotations.


This isn't quite true. The "American" system dictates that periods and commas should go inside of quotation marks.

The "British" system however dictates that periods anc commas only go inside of quotation marks if they are part of the quote itself making "OS X, codenamed 'Panther', ..." perfectly valid.

Furthermore, there are a number of US schools that taught the British system, but the American system is used overwhelmingly by publishers. Either is perfectly valid and frankly the British system makes a bit more sense as it is consistent with how question and exclamation marks are handled.

[freddiecable]

Looks like a poorly designed PC-box...

Apple would never release anything like this un-cool thing. The new PowerMac might have the same size but with a MUCH more slick interface and with Apple-details!

From the picture I've seen - the small - it looks like a joke :o

[Jimong5]

another thing I thought of. Wouldnt this be the first instance that the new new case isnt a photgraph, but a snatched bit of printed media. I find that that hurts the credibility of this.

[matthew24]

Is Apple able to design such a ugly thing?

[nagromme]

Originally posted by Jimong5
I took a spin with my nonexistant photoshopping skills, but have found: the apple logo matches snugly with a stock powermac photo, and that the lighter areas on the case also match up with a wand tolerance of ~15

An interesting experiment--but actually, the magic wand does not tell you anything about the two surfaces lining up. It just looks for contrast, which is naturally a combination of both layers. Stack any two similar images and the wand will do something like that.

[Brent Turbo]

Measuring the parallax in the image, and using the magic wand in photoshop?? Unbelievable!

Here's my take on this.. Who gives a crap? Just watch the keynote speech and see for yourselves. Everyone's going to be let down anyway, right? Or how about going out and getting some fresh air. Drawing mockups in photoshop isn't fun, it's creepy.

[MacQuest]

Originally posted by iBot
...Then again, I was dead wrong about the leaked pics of the Mirrored-Drive Door PowerMacs last year. They, too, looked like bad amateur design to me -- and they turned out to be real. Maybe Apple has lost its flair for cutting-edge design.

Judging from your self assessment, and your admitted track record of being wrong, I somehow fail to see how Apple has "lost it's flair" for something that you cannot comprehend. :rolleyes:

For those that think this pic looks too much like a Dell server, I say "Good!"

I disagree that it looks like a Dell in anything other than it's basic form factor. The vertical lines combined with the aluminum enclosure and the possible translucent panels will definately make it unmistakeably Apple. It also creates a nice level of consistency across the entire Pro line.

All while easily fitting in the same space of a Taco Dell box. Think "seamless integration/replacement" from the perspective of the people that REALLY matter. The ones who can authorize the purchase of LARGE amounts of equipment like entire workgroups. These ARE NOT the individual employees/creative professionals working in an Art/Production department. They are the traditionally conservative Presidents, C.F.O.'s, Purchasing Agents, IT directors, etc. The people who OWN the place!!

This design, if real, would kill two birds with one stone.

1. Satisfy the conservatives with a familiar [square], professional looking industrial form factor.

2. Satisfy the creatives with a design that has already grown on me, and will inevitably grow on most everyone.

Think about it people. Look at a closed PowerBook. It's a metallic grey rectangle or square, and everybody wants it!!

Is it so hard to comprehend that Apple is launching an all out offensive on MS and Hell Computers by attacking them on their own turf, but with much more powerful ammo.?

Figure it out. The big money is NOT in the "onesie-twosie" sales, and they won't lose this anyway once the fever has caught on, it's in volume purchasing within the corporate and enterprise markets. This includes Apple's existing niche market of creative, medical, and technology environments but is expanding into the non-creative fields where RELIABILITY is key. Let Apple's representative's hit these places up with reviews like these: http://www.consumerreports.org/main/detailv3.jsp?CONTENT%3C%3Ecnt_id=305449&amp;FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=162693&amp;bmUID=1054224175175

"Hey Mr. President, take a look at this recent report [the one linked above] by an unbiased 3rd party [Consumer Reports] and tell me which one of these computer manufacturers is going to reduce your maintenace and repair costs, as well as your downtime?"

BAM!! THAT's what these people with the big bucks respond too young grasshoppers!!

Big Business = Big Money. 85% of Dell's success comes from this area, NOT the home users.

Sooo...ATTACK, APPLE, ATTACK!! Good Apple.

Everybody is so caught up in the "look" that hardly anyone has taken time to even mention what has mattered the most for months...it's a 64-bit 970 with Panther coming out shortly to support it at the OS level.

Hopefully a 970...with crossed fingers, toes, and other parts of my anatomy that I didn't even think I could cross :p

Just a side note about MS's decision to stop developing IE as a standalone application. Read the first line of my sig.!:D

Viva La Revolucion!!

[JOHNGAETANO]

Guys, first I can't believe anyone thinks this picture is real, let alone create this much discussion. Anyway, real or fake, we all know that it's whats inside that counts. 970!!!! 1.8MHZ.

[Stike]

Originally posted by JOHNGAETANO
970!!!! 1.8MHZ.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAH HILARIOUS!
Sorry! *sigh*
*goes back to his Amiga with 7 MHz* ;)

I must say, yay, we will see new desktops, no, it will not look like this.

[Joefuss134]

Originally posted by Stike
HAHAHAHAHHAHAH HILARIOUS!
Sorry! *sigh*
*goes back to his Amiga with 7 MHz* ;)

I must say, yay, we will see new desktops, no, it will not look like this.


Ok, even though I don't like this design, there is a chance that this could be truly the new G5. When this picture was originally posted on this site, a few hours later, it was abrubtly taken down by Apple Legal because of something we didn't want to know. But then, we see the picture again, but in bottom front corners of this machine are blurred images. It might have been so that Apple Legal blurred out those images of the supposed new optical system, or front USB2.0 or whatever, and just showed us the box, maybe it will seem that that front bunch of whatever that is blurred, might be the most important thing about the G5, or could have had the logo which would have given it away.
Also, whoever said something about two floppy drives, WHAT??? The one on top is a slot loading cd (or probably a faster superdrive) and the bottom things are just probably what I said earlier, this is just my theory of it, who knows.

[Sabenth]

not saying that this is it but that british bloke who just won the award his team supposed to have done that give me slab of beer then ill say that looks nice till then that thing is about as new and refreshing as a wintell box on steroids...

Love the Photoshop smuge effect just like the box been smuged......

[ipiloot]

...it's a ************.

It's a no-name PC with Apple logo Phtotshopped to it. Forget about it. Steve will never allow Ive to do something like that.

[tazznb]

Originally posted by pyrotoaster
This thing looks more like IBM's eServer xSeries.

Yes, eServer meets toaster, that's what this looks like. ;)

Hmmmmm?? What if it happened to be a collaboration of a server made by Apple & IBM?

They could assist Apple in making an enterprise server, and that would save Apple on R&D costs.:cool:

[arvidvdb]

Could some native french-speaker provide translation of this macbid. article? Sound interesting


Je t'avais déjà parlé du "Cell" le prochain PowerPC. Et l'article ci-dessous parle des relations entre Apple et IBM.

www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1129944,00.asp (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1129944,00.asp )


La première phrase de l'article laisse déjà entendre que Apple serait un utilisateur du Cell:

"The man responsible for both the "Cell" processor and the microprocessors powering Apple's forthcoming Macintoshes"

Le Cell rassemble dans une seule puce, 4 processeurs et une mémoire cache de second niveau. Ils sortiront fin 2004. Et ils seront utilisés par la PlayStation 3 en 2005, dans une version plus musclée avec 9 processeurs dans une puce. Donc l'histoire de la Xstation avec de 4 à 64 processeurs, c'est plus qu'une rumeur.

Le Cell est un processeur 64 bits, simplifié. Il est ultrascalaire. On supprime ainsi le maître de cérémonie qui gère toutes les instructions et qui consomme tellement d'énergie dans le PowerPC 970. Les unités entières, flottantes et vectorielles (altivec) sont fusionnées dans une seule unité. L'avantage c'est qu'il consomme beaucoup moins de courant, qu'il est beaucoup plus petit et que l'on peut faire varier facilement le rapport puissance/consommation. On peut en mettre plusieurs dans une seule puce. L'inconvénient c'est qu'il est moins performant à fréquence égale. Mais à probablement 3 ou 4 GHz, c'est relatif.

Un dernier avantage c'est qu'il est facile de créer un tel processeur avec l'architecture PowerPC. Alors que l'architecture Intel ne s'y prête pas. IBM mise sur le nombre pour battre Intel, qui mise sur la puissance pure.

[arvidvdb]

btw, sorry if you allready noticed, Appleinsider is down

[skunk]

Originally posted by arvidvdb
Could some native french-speaker provide translation of this macbid. article?
Not native, but fluent...
"The first sentence of the article leads one to understand that Apple will be using the "Cell" processor.
The Cell combines 4 processors and an L2 cache on one chip, and will be out at the end of 2004. They will be used in the PS3 in 2005, in a heavy duty version with 9 processors on one chip, so the story of the Xsation having from 4 to 64 processors is more than a rumour.
The Cell is a simplified 64-bit processor. It is ultra-scalar. Therefore it dispenses with the controller which manages all the instructions and uses so much power in the PPC 970. The integer units, floating and vector (altivec) are combined into one. The advantages are that this uses much less power, is much smaller, and the output to power consumption ratio can be easily adjusted. One can put several onto a single chip. The disadvantage is that it performs less well at ?equal frequency. But at a probable speed of 3 to 4 GHz, it's all relative...
One last advantage is that it is easy to create such a processor using the PowerPC architecture. Intel's architecture does not lend itself to this. IBM is thus relying on quantity to compete with Intel, who are relying on pure power.

[skunk]

I'm revising my opinion of the picture having seen the 3D version posted a couple of pages back. Makes it look much more palatable. I might just find space for one after all....;)

[arvidvdb]

thankx for the translation...
Don't know if there's any truth to it, and frankly, with all the 970 stuff going on, I dont really care at the moment.
But it does make me happy to see IBM so active on the processor front anyway...

[tazznb]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
Okay, I'm getting tired of this, if it's real, Apple should've taken it down by now.

It may just be real..... but Apple may at this point see no use in taking it down, due to the incredible amount of people that have already seen this pic (almost everyone that has a whim to see it).

They may just ride this one out, and shut up all the people that know more aobut Ives, than Ives himself; makes you think of "Misery" doesn't it.

I'm sure that when the majority of you finally see it, it will blow you away because while most of you claim you know his style, what I know that is consistent (stronger than how it looks) is the attention to detail that is always present.

You all make an assumption based on looking at something that you cannot make out. At least wait until it makes its debut (in a few days I hope), and then make comments. You guys have to understand one thing about Apple; they have REAL artists at work for them, and they have the gift of making even "pigeon-poop" look gorgeous.

If this happens to be a bonafide pic get ready to see a gorgeous box unvieled.

I think it will have chrome handles from looking at the picture. (I could be wrong, though)

[rt_brained]

I hope it's beige with a 14" monochrome monitor.

Running DOS.

[webplummer]

You know how car manufacturers will take their cars in development out for a spin sometimes, and the auto magazine spy photographers will shoot them up? The auto companies always clad their development vehicles in fake body components, to disguise the actual shape of the car and not give too much away.

It's all about viral marketing from the start, as well as real world use testing.

In Apple's case, they probably supplied their big vendors who produce catalogs (MacWarehouse, etc...) with stand-in images (in the design industry, we call these FPO, for placement only). These FPOs are the exact dimensions of what the real photo will be, but in order to keep rumor junkies in the dark until the unveiling, they are not the actual product.

After the Stevenote, everybody who had an FPO will be able to grab the latest final images of the box design, drop it into their layout, and send the catalog to press. This also explains the reason for the halftoned image. It was simply printed from one of the design stations.

[The Shadow]

Originally posted by ipiloot
...it's a ************.

It's a no-name PC with Apple logo Phtotshopped to it. Forget about it. Steve will never allow Ive to do something like that.

Yeah, it could also be a long lost Apple pic from about 1990.

The only thing we know for certain is it ain't no G5. And yes, I would bet my house on it!

Classic joke, though. Very funny. Some people actually believe it. That's what fuels these pranksters. The more outrageous, the more laughs!

[iSegway]

Originally posted by The Shadow
Yeah, it could also be a long lost Apple pic from about 1990.

The only thing we know for certain is it ain't no G5. And yes, I would bet my house on it!

Classic joke, though. Very funny. Some people actually believe it. That's what fuels these pranksters. The more outrageous, the more laughs!

I would like to thank the hoaxer or informant... adds excitement either way. :P

I have gone back and forth on this but I have a feeling this might be the real G5... simply for the fact that no other reports or pics or anything has surfaced. If Apple is really going to release the G5 in a few days -- whether it is for sale or to pre order -- it is just impossible to keep a secret. I mean, think about it -- there hasn't even been a half-way decent description of it. By virtue of no other information this has to be the frontrunner. Either that or there will be no G5 in the next few days.

[nobody really]

another 970 pic? Or something different?

http://www.angelfire.com/ex/ypt1987/

[rt_brained]

I hacked into the FBI's website and downloaded their super secret de-blurring spy software.

I then went to work with the special colorizing software I downloaded from Ted Turner's website.

I can't quite make it out, but it appears to be a logo for the new operating system.

[iSegway]

Originally posted by nobody really
another 970 pic? Or something different?

http://www.angelfire.com/ex/ypt1987/

That is a cool design. Did you make that?

That case looks expensive to manufacture though. That is something I have owndered about: how much do you think the G4 or cubes beautiful cases adds to the price.

[webplummer]

Now that was a cool case. With the amount of Apple fans running around out there using their 3D rendering mad skillz for good and not evil, it's no wonder we are getting inundated with "new"designs.

Anybody can say "this was swiped from Apple!!! Super-duper secret. Please don't ask questions!!!" and create an aura of intrigue.

[MetallicPenguin]

I am not sure if this has been said, or if we are even still talking about the original picture from the beginning of this thread, but, the slot-loading drive would be slower than the other drives correct? What if it was an Xstation or whatever, it wouldnt matter because those don't need Superdrives and such.

[Smurfman]

If not the actual "G5", then could this possibly be a breakout box? Just a thought...

[nobody really]

you will see...

http://www.angelfire.com/ex/ypt1987/

[clarkcox3]

Originally posted by JackRipper
I kinda like the case (I think it looks sleek), but I don't see an eject button for the ROM drive. Maybe it's heat activated?

Um, none of the PowerMacs have had an eject button for years. (just look at the Quicksilver and WindTunnel cases)

[MetallicPenguin]

Originally posted by nobody really
you will see...

http://www.angelfire.com/ex/ypt1987/

Are you confirming that this is the new design? Who are you? And don't answer "nobody really"

[chubakka]

I think the uncovered circle looks like a big Dell Logo that's on the side of their cases.

[gopher]

Unlikely! Look carefully at the shadows. Looks like somebody's paper mache (sp?) rendering of the machine. Look at the shadows on the side. It looks like unevenly smooth paper. It isn't the actual machine, even if the design is identical.

[IndyGopher]

First, let me say that I think the "photo" is fake. However, I think it is entirely possible that someone had access to a glamor photo of the new machine, and in an attempt to hide his identity, he doctored it to look the way it does. If he had access to the original merchandising artwork, at this stage of the game, it would be very likely that he would be discovered if he released it.

So, from where I stand.. I think it is probably an accurate representation of the new machines. If I'm wrong, then great. If I am right, then so what.

However, all of you tripping over yourselves to declare that it can't possibly be real, or even a representation of what is real, are precisely the people that the adage, being doomed to repeat the past, is written about. Ask yourself, and answer honestly.. did you believe the photos of the G4 Cube were real?

[Sol]

Originally posted by webplummer
In Apple's case, they probably supplied their big vendors who produce catalogs (MacWarehouse, etc...) with stand-in images (in the design industry, we call these FPO, for placement only). These FPOs are the exact dimensions of what the real photo will be, but in order to keep rumor junkies in the dark until the unveiling, they are not the actual product.

That is a good theory you have there.

The metallic texture has not have been applied to the front panel so the final product may look better than it does to us now. It does not seem that much longer than the PowerMacs of today. It may be FW800 & USB 2.0 ports in the blurred corner or it may be an iPod slot.

Regardless of the case, it is the next-generation motherboard that will matter most.

[mactastic]

That thing is seriously fugly. I hope its a fake.:(

[jeremy.king]

Without reading the previous 400 posts, I am going to throw a thought out there. Forgive me if someone already stated this.

Anyone think that this is NOT the new powermac enclose, but rather...An alternative enclosoure for XServe?

Makes sense to me, not every enterprise/school/etc. wants a rack mountable server enclosure. Right? And those people don't give two cents about industrial design (ie curvy pretty cases).

Think about it.
Not many people put multiple Optical Drives (CD ROM, CDRW, etc) in a server box. A simple slot loading Drive is all that is needed. The interesting part is you can see the back of this machine.

I wouldn't put it past them. Why not offer XServe in different enclosures?

JK

[kangaroo]

The Apple ‘zeitgeist’ fuses form and function to create an immersive computing experience that transcends the ordinary.

Apple eschews the ordinary for stylish and exclusive designs.

The box depicted is neither stylish nor exclusive. And no euphemism, including the often used ‘industrial’, can change this ugly duckling into a swan. At best, it’s a stylish window air conditioner, or, perhaps, with a handle at the top—a chic animal cage.

[digital1]

Possible XServe?

Without reading the previous 400 posts, I am going to throw a thought out there. Forgive me if someone already stated this.

Anyone think that this is NOT the new powermac enclose, but rather...An alternative enclosoure for XServe?

Makes sense to me, not every enterprise/school/etc. wants a rack mountable server enclosure. Right? And those people don't give two cents about industrial design (ie curvy pretty cases).

Think about it.
Not many people put multiple Optical Drives (CD ROM, CDRW, etc) in a server box. A simple slot loading Drive is all that is needed. The interesting part is you can see the back of this machine.

I wouldn't put it past them. Why not offer XServe in different enclosures?

JK


Its quite possible it could be an enclosure. It could be like a high-end server aimed at businesses as opposed to a rack-mount server. Not to say that 1U servers cannot be high-end, maybe Apple could be putting out to differentiate it from the crowd in terms of servers.

[grabberslasher]

This is what I created in Photoshop by using all the images contained in this thread. I hope the photo isn't too big.

I took "dontask2.jpg" into Photoshop, added parts of "powermac970.jpg" and a few bits off the "G5_grill.jpg".

This is the first time I created anything in Photoshop and any images used are property of their respective creators.

Anyway, we all know that this isn't what the new G5 will look like (maybe an XStation) as a German store has opened the boxes and has described the real G5 (Page 2).

[digital1]

looks yummy to me. :-D

[silvergunuk]

could this be the mystery machine?

[job]

I'm torn between the two designs...the one above and this one (from the other angelfire site):

[hmmm...forgot attachment.]

[job]

Which do you guys think is more likely?

The mesh grill/cameo Death Star

or this Compaq look-alike?

[iSegway]

Awsome job, grabberslasher! You forgot one thing though... gotta put the face at a 90 degree angle rather than tipping backwards, supposedley. :P

[grabberslasher]

Oh no! If I made it that realistic I would have Apple Legal on my tail...

:D

[digital1]

Nice designs guys! :) Let me ask a dumb question here. Do you guys use a 3d-modeler with photoshop for making these mockups or is this pure photoshop? I have always wanted to ask but been to afraid. LOL:rolleyes: :(

[pyrotoaster]

It's nice to see some good Photoshop work flying around. :)

That said, every single design in this thread is probably wrong, either partially or completely. Apple would've moved on the Angelfire pic if it looked even remotely like the real deal.
Originally posted by grabberslasher
Anyway, we all know that this isn't what the new G5 will look like (maybe an XStation) as a German store has opened the boxes and has described the real G5 (Page 2).
I think there's a good reason arn put that thing on page two. It sounds nice, but it sounds fishy. It's interesting, but not necessarily accurate.

[grabberslasher]

I'm sure most of the people who do new/totally different designs usually use a 3D modeller (I would if I knew how to use my copy of Maya...).

My one above was just done in Photoshop - I just layed everything on top of each other, added a gradient for the side and an apple logo (which might look like it's off but it isn't - just the angle), lightened up the handle bits and cut out imperfections (although I missed a few).

[grabberslasher]

Originally posted by pyrotoaster
I think there's a good reason arn put that thing on page two. It sounds nice, but it sounds fishy. It's interesting, but not necessarily accurate.

I agree. That's why I haven't tried to make a picture of that, yet!

There are some things that make that article sound more believable though, why the hell would anyone have diagonal PCI slots... Remember the first iMac - Why the hell would a PC manufacturer not include floppy drives...

I think next week we will see history in the making.

:p

[silvergunuk]

The pic I put up was sent to me through email. If I did make 1 id do it in lightwave which i use and would use all the radiosity, area lights an caustics to make it look real

[blueflame]

TJWETT
I would love if you could email me the picture to andreas@wpi.edu
thanks
Andreas

[mjconnor]

I think we're getting WAY too technical in analyzing this...this...whatever it is.

At Apple, style and functionality have always gone hand-in-hand. Their artists spend thousands of hours on designs and refinements. Their language is one of style, elegance and symbolism.

To repeat, this thing looks like the World Trade Center.

Bearing this in mind, does anyone really believe that a design like this could move through all approval levels (and there are MANY) and be approved?

Apple designs are rightly praised because they are uniformly awesome. When dealing with artists of the caliber of Apple's, there is just no way the WTC parallel could escape their notice. They'd never want or allow that kind of negative publicity for one of their designs.

[gopher]

Originally posted by silvergunuk
could this be the mystery machine? http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=388841

This particular image looks more like a possible configuration.
My only qualm about it is that it would be too easy to topple over. Those curves on the sides look like you could easy hit your foot against the tower and topple it over.

[webplummer]

nizzles.

Go here to see more cool concepts that people have come up with. Beware, the site is quite slow.
http://www.theapplecollection.com/design/macdesign/index.html

[grabberslasher]

Aww, what the heck. I have nothing better to do (it's great being 14!)

[iSegway]

Another home run grabberslasher. :D You forgot to make the right edge verticle again though. :P haha


Note: There are significant doubts that this is real. (Multiple reports have now indicated that this is not real.)

You know this bit from Arn makes absolutely no sense(no offense Arn). But think about it, we still have only one person that has given an in depth description of someone claiming to have seen it, yet we have all these people supposedley saying that this ISN'T it?

How does that work?

Why is it that these people won't tell us what it really is?

[moosecat]

Originally posted by iSegway You know this bit from Arn makes absolutely no sense(no offense Arn). But think about it, we still have only one person that has given an in depth description of someone claiming to have seen it, yet we have all these people supposedley saying that this ISN'T it?

How does that work?

Why is it that these people won't tell us what it really is?

Because they probably are not violating their NDAs by telling someone what ISN'T true, but they would be if they told us what IS true.

Arn is not an idiot. He probably has sources who have in the past provided reliable information telling him that this picture is not accurate. Those people might be wrong -- who knows. But it's perfectly reasonable to believe that Arn has a basis for saying what he has said about the likelihood of fakery here.

[iSegway]

Because they probably are not violating their NDAs by telling someone what ISN'T true, but they would be if they told us what IS true. I might be wrong, but from my understanding of NDA's this is not the case. Arn is not an idiot. He probably has sources who have in the past provided reliable information telling him that this picture is not accurate. Why not run this image by them before showing us then?But it's perfectly reasonable to believe that Arn has a basis for saying what he has said about the likelihood of fakery here. Like I said, no offense was meant. But this is my point. I havn't heard a logical reason yet. If I am mistaken about NDA's then I am wrong, though. That also doesn't make sense though. If NDA's worked like that it would be very very easy to communicate what something was through stating what wasn't true.

[moosecat]

Originally posted by iSegway
I might be wrong, but from my understanding of NDA's this is not the case. Why not run this image by them before showing us then? Like I said, no offense was meant. But this is my point. I havn't heard a logical reason yet. If I am mistaken about NDA's then I am wrong, though. That also doesn't make sense though. If NDA's worked like that it would be very very easy to communicate what something was through stating what wasn't true.

Well, an NDA is a contract, and whether these people violated their NDAs would depend on what the contract says. (Yes, I am a lawyer, and I've worked with NDAs.) Whatever the contract says, if someone tried to evade an NDA by listing a hundred things that AREN'T true, implying that something not listed IS true, that person would be much more likely to be found to have breached the contract.

I don't know whether the people who have "un-confirmed" this picture to Arn violated NDAs or not (maybe they're not even under NDAs and instead fear liability for trade secret misappropriation, which doesn't necessarily require an NDA). We simply don't know. But they might have reached the perfectly reasonable conclusion that they are on stronger legal footing if they stick to denying things rather than affirmatively stating things to be true.

As for why Arn didn't run the image by these people first, who knows? He probably doesn't even have contact information for some of them. More importantly, Arn probably has dozens or hundreds of potential sources -- should he fax all possible news items to all of them for confirmation first? Of course not, especially when he may not know which ones really do know the truth or are willing to share it. No journalist would view such obsessive confirmation as a prerequisite to publication.

[iSegway]

Note: There are significant doubts that this is real. (Multiple reports have now indicated that this is not real.) The original image was pulled for unknown reasons. While it is still unknown if the photo is real or fake... we would prefer you not posting the image in the forums (see local mirror). Here is another reason why it doesn't make sense -- He states 2 contradictory things in the same section. :confused: As for why Arn didn't run the image by these people first, who knows? He probably doesn't even have contact information for some of them. More importantly, Arn probably has dozens or hundreds of potential sources -- should he fax all possible news items to all of them for confirmation first? Of course not, especially when he may not know which ones really do know the truth or are willing to share it. No journalist would view such obsessive confirmation as a prerequisite to publication. I would imagine he has regular informants that have given him information regarding this subject. I would think you might run one of these photos by them before posting it on here. I would imagine he gets a ton of images like this and doubt he posts all of them. Maybe I missed what made this one so intriguing?

Btw, do you deal with patent law? If so, I would love to pick your brain about some things.

[moosecat]

Originally posted by iSegway
Here is another reason why it doesn't make sense -- He states 2 contradictory things in the same section. :confused:

Btw, do you deal with patent law? If so, I would love to pick your brain about some things.

They're not contradictory -- there can simultaneously be reports that the picture is inaccurate and doubt about whether it is accurate or not. Not sure why you think those contradict ...

Anyway -- sorry, I'm not a patent lawyer. I don't know much about them, except not to infringe them. :)

[iSegway]

They're not contradictory -- there can simultaneously be reports that the picture is inaccurate and doubt about whether it is accurate or not. Not sure why you think those contradict ...

what exactly is he stating when he says, "Multiple reports have now indicated that this is not real."

Maybe I am confused by the importance of the word 'multiple' and wondering why the term 'reliable' wasn't used.

What do you see this section saying? I find it extremely nebulous, to say the least. Again, I mean no offense to Arn here, I just find it incredibly confusing.

[thedrumone]

that is so not the new mac. i used to work on old ibm boxes that look just like that minus the bad photoshop job. be real, has any apple product released in the past two years looked that awful? see the new ipod...

think smarter.

:o

[Qball]

Originally posted by bobindashadows
It just looks powerful, industrial strength, pepperoni with 9 millimeter bullets pizza, hardcore.

Hey, I want some of whatever you're smokin'!

By the way, the little blurry spot at the bottom of the photo is ...... (drum roll please) .... nothing at all. The photo is fake, and the blurry portion successfully got us all talking about it -- adds a bit of mystery and intrigue. "Why would something be blurred if it was a fake photo?" 'Cause the artist just got you to believe, sucker!

[Qball]

Originally posted by stillamacuser
Thanks for the clues.

Don't ask any questions. I dragged this out in my pants.

ROTF LMAO!

[solvs]

What the heck, might as well throw my $0.02 into the ring (with 400 + posts, not like anyone's gonna read this). I think this is ugly. And fake. But then again, I thought the pics last time were ugly and fake and sure enough, they were real.

I still think they're ugly.

Maybe there is a little truth in fiction. Maybe there are High-End Towers that look server like, and Low-End Towers that look more like the El Capitan. Or white like the e/iMacs and iBooks. Cheaper Towers would be nice.

[Qunchuy]

Originally posted by chmorley
Compare the two side by side. The fake clearly comes from the "Artist Rendition".

I'm reasonably certain the copying is in the other direction. The "Artist Rendition" is, to my eyes, an obvious redrawing of the wrinkled photo "fake" by someone who didn't clearly interpret the photo. It mistakes the cropped background for a transparent shell, it puts an odd feature in a not-quite-correct orientation in the blurred corner, and it totally loses the bottom handle that's visible in the photo's shadow.

The existence of the "Artist Rendition" by no means invalidates the "fake".

Oh, and whoever said the halftoning in the photo is too regularly horizontal is probably mistaking the artifacts in the pattern of scanned pixels for the actual halftoning in the alleged photo. The vaguely circular screen pattern visible in the picture most certainly does not line up perfectly across the image.

[Tiauguinho]

With so many "its fake, no its true, fake, true, fake, true!"im anxious for monday so I can see the end result and laugh of the excitement that this forums had.

I dont know if its fake or true, im no expert on that point, but nonetheless, it wouldnt surprise me if apple would come up with something like that(I remember the drawings of the new iPod that came out and a discussion started about the placement of the buttons and how that was so non-Apple and a step backward compared to the old iPods).

[Parikh1234]

i think we should start taking bets, anyone offering odds?

[analogkid]

so when can i get a 970 upgrade card for my Wallstreet?

[Abstract]

Is it 1991 all over again?

*checks his calender*

[zimv20]

...that's guaranteed to be wrong:

Mr. Jobs will annouce the 970 PowerMacs next week. He won't have one available to show, but instead will project on the back wall a 25' high image of the wrinkled, half-tone, blurred corner image that is the subject of this thread.

[the future]

Originally posted by zimv20
...that's guaranteed to be wrong:

Mr. Jobs will annouce the 970 PowerMacs next week. He won't have one available to show, but instead will project on the back wall a 25' high image of the wrinkled, half-tone, blurred corner image that is the subject of this thread.

Ok, stop right here everyone! That post is the PERFECT end to this thread!

[moosecat]

Originally posted by zimv20
Mr. Jobs will annouce the 970 PowerMacs next week. He won't have one available to show, but instead will project on the back wall a 25' high image of the wrinkled, half-tone, blurred corner image that is the subject of this thread.

And it will turn out that the big innovation of the new PowerMacs is the "iCrumple" exterior finish, which looks exactly like paper that's been crumpled and stuffed down someone's pants.

[Rower_CPU]

Belly-laughs-
This is your first warning. Cut out the spam.

[tjwett]

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

[Superman]

Attention!!!...

The other photo is a FAKE. I know.

I have the REAL PHOTO OF THE NEW G5, and here it is:

http://members.cox.net/clarkt7/970.pdf

[Unclej78]

Extremely ugly. I can't believe that Apple would put out something like this.

[zimv20]

Originally posted by Superman
Attention!!!...

The other photo is a FAKE. I know.

I have the REAL PHOTO OF THE NEW G5, and here it is:

http://members.cox.net/clarkt7/970.pdf

i opened it. i want those 22 seconds of my life back.

[MetallicPenguin]

Originally posted by zimv20
i opened it. i want those 22 seconds of my life back.

I second that:o

[skunk]

If it took 22 seconds, you DEFINITELY need a new Mac! :p

[evolu]

Originally posted by grabberslasher
Aww, what the heck. I have nothing better to do (it's great being 14!)

I seriously wonder if new displays will have to come out with a new design... Any thoughts?

[SubGothius]

Originally posted by grabberslasher
...why the hell would anyone have diagonal PCI slots...

FWIW, mounting full-height PCI cards to the mobo "laid back" at a diagonal would allow for a narrower case and/or room to mount more bulky components on the underside of the mobo.

[zimv20]

Originally posted by skunk
If it took 22 seconds, you DEFINITELY need a new Mac! :p

that includes reading time. but i'm not disagreeing w/ your "new mac" assessment.

[Sun Baked]

Originally posted by zimv20
that includes reading time. but i'm not disagreeing w/ your "new mac" assessment. Looks like Superman has been snorting Red Kryponite again, or his tights are cutting off the Oxygen to his brain again. :(

[edit - the pics coming out of people's pants are starting to looks very scary]

[srobert]

A... "Friend of Mine"... took these pics of the Mystery Sealed box. I wonder if apple will pull the pics off the site.

http://homepage.mac.com/srobert/.Pictures/sealed_box_mystery.jpg

[MetallicPenguin]

What's up with all the jokes?:p

[MetallicPenguin]

Whoa here's a pic of it all wrapped up, plus the note not to take it out until June 23rd!

[chrisxcr]

I work in the prepress dept. of a printing company and we have a bunch of old IBM RS/6000 model E30's that look an awful lot like parts donors for this thing. The E30's have 5 or 6 (I'm at home right now and can't remember for sure) half height drive bays in front at the top of the tower and they have very similar looking slotted pop out covers. I think it would be very easy to Photoshop in a slot for the cd and stretch a panel or two and paste in the power button. The handles look a lot like the hand hold on the front cover of the E30 as well. The rest of the case from the bezel back looks quite a bit like the case from one of our Intergraph Rips so I'm leaning heavily toward this being a clever little Frankenstein Photoshop effort. Oh and ours has a mylar sticker with the serial number on it in about the same place as the blurred area at the bottom. If I wanted to do one of these I would also do it in grayscale, print it out, wrinkle it up, wipe my ass and half tone the scan. If I wasn't so lazy I'd do just that and I'm pretty sure it would look just like the picture. I guess I could be wrong but that thing just screams RS/6000 to me. I have a lot of faith in Apple to come up with something much better than this.

I should say that I haven't been able to see the full size version of the picture, I've only seen the reduced size one.

[iSegway]

Couple questions here:

If this is in fact the real deal, and it used a slot loading drive, can slot loading drives function on their side?

Next question; is it possible that this machine could be modular? So let's say that thing on the side that is blurred out is actually a port that allows 2 of these to be joined together like siamese twins. Is that remotely possible? Could hypertransport or the 64 bit aspect aide in this? Just a shot in the dark here...

Edit:

Got an interesting idea here... what if "dontask" is both a hoax and real at the same time? What if someone from Apple is playing a game?

Someone posted this mock-up on AppleInsider http://www.evula.org/madfax7/misc/images/g5mockup/powermacgrilllowbandwidth.jpeg as a joke... but what if they inadvertantly hit on something here? What if the person that sent us this pic played a little game and flipped the Apple logo around and messed up the image to hide it? Also altering key elements to disguise it.

What if the Grill and cd slot are actually the top of the unit? So it is a "cube" like design that doesn't need a fan for cooling. There might even be more drive bays on the true front of the unit.

This could also explain why supposed insiders are discounting that this is it, because it doesn't jibe with things that they have been told.

[Belly-laughs]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Belly-laughs-
This is your first warning. Cut out the spam.

...hehh...? Surely this rumor makes us all laugh? I would never believe that after all these years with Steve and Ive someone actually bothers discussing this "miss from the bin".

Sorry. Meaning I´m not going to laugh until monday.

[rt_brained]

Originally posted by maxigalaxy
THIS.IS.IT.
Luggage?

[mustang_dvs]

Originally posted by chrisxcr
I work in the prepress dept. of a printing company and we have a bunch of old IBM RS/6000 model E30's that look an awful lot like parts donors for this thing. The E30's have 5 or 6 (I'm at home right now and can't remember for sure) half height drive bays in front at the top of the tower and they have very similar looking slotted pop out covers... I guess I could be wrong but that thing just screams RS/6000 to me.

I don't see the resemblance.

http://www.ajava.biz/img/ibm/7024/7024e30.jpg

[chrisxcr]

Sorry, I should have made it more clear that I was talking about its appearance with the front cover open. Also the version you found is newer than the one we have at work. The older version has the narrow verticle grill like in the purported apple machine.

Here's a picture I found on ebay of an E20, still the newer case style on the bottom but you can see the half height drive covers behind the open door I was talking about.

http://www.qualityliquidators.com/Ebay-pics/e20-100fo.jpg

[Abstract]

That is ugly. I hope the new PM's look nothing like that. I actually hope they make the machines smaller, somehow. It would be tops if they could cut 6 inches off it's height, and make it appear smaller overall.

[marco_ppc]

Originally posted by Abstract
That is ugly. I hope the new PM's look nothing like that. I actually hope they make the machines smaller, somehow. It would be tops if they could cut 6 inches off it's height, and make it appear smaller overall.
Now it looks ugly, but it was quite nice for that time. And it is still great hardware :)
No doubt apple will put out something completely different.

[iSegway]

He's baaaaaaAAcckkkk.... http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/infinite/

http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/infinite/tower.gif

Originally found here... AppleInsider (http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26385)

[daveg5]

Originally posted by iSegway
He's baaaaaaAAcckkkk.... http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/infinite/

http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/infinite/tower.gif

Originally found here... AppleInsider (http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26385)
looks like that might be it

[yumpin yiminy]

i haven't read any of the comments so pardon me if i am being redundant.
That is a picture of a paper bag. with gray lines on it.

[ZenArcade]

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26406&perpage=40&pagenumber=2

at the bottom of the page. this one simply cannot have been photoshop´ed.

the design looks scary. almost like an evil robot or something

[mproud]

macsecrets.com posted this, actually from a post on macdailynews.com, a few days ago. But I haven't seen this one yet in the forums here.

http://www.macsecrets.com/2003/img/power_mac_970.jpg
Is this one also a phony?

[iBot]

Originally posted by mproud
macsecrets.com posted this, actually from a post on macdailynews.com, a few days ago. But I haven't seen this one yet in the forums here.
Is this one also a phony?


Maya is a dangerous thing in the hands of an amateur enthusiast.

[bokdol]

Originally posted by mproud
macsecrets.com posted this, actually from a post on macdailynews.com, a few days ago. But I haven't seen this one yet in the forums here.

http://www.macsecrets.com/2003/img/power_mac_970.jpg
Is this one also a phony?


is that a mac ashtray?

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by bokdol
is that a mac ashtray?

Nah it's a multi use kitchen appliance. It's slices it dices, it measure spaghetti, it also strains and in a pinch you grate cheese and press garlic on in one handy dandy appliance. Don't go away folks because you haven't heard it all yet. It will also grill your meat and because of the specially designed by Nasa grill top all the fat and grease simply drains away. How much do you ask? Well today only we're slashing the price one million no way a hundred grand get real no no no this hand dandy device can be your for only 1000 payments of 4.99 that's right only 4.99 a day can get you this all in one kitchen appliance. Yes that's right for less then the price of a deal meal and a soda you can have this. You did say you wanted to go on a diet anyway didn't you..........................

[ant_s]

Originally posted by mproud
macsecrets.com posted this, actually from a post on macdailynews.com, a few days ago. But I haven't seen this one yet in the forums here.

http://www.macsecrets.com/2003/img/power_mac_970.jpg
Is this one also a phony?



I've seen that before on an Apple mockup site - so it was never intended as being "phony", it was purely for fun anyway. Someone must have seen it and made it sound more official.

So yes, it's not real.

:D