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void
Jun 25, 2003, 03:26 PM
What is your IQ? (http://www.emode.com/tests/uiq/)
Mine is 124, and I'm only 13!
MacFan25
Jun 25, 2003, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by void
What is your IQ? (http://www.emode.com/tests/uiq/)
Mine is 124, and I'm only 13!
Age really doesn't matter when you are talking about IQ. Your IQ stays the same througout your life + or - a couple points.
void
Jun 25, 2003, 03:43 PM
There were a bunch of q's that i didn't understand
Mr. Anderson
Jun 25, 2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by void
There were a bunch of q's that i didn't understand
I.Q. isn't really all that valid - and its also comparing yourself to people the same age group as you. I've taken a few test in the past and have had a range of scores, 20 points or more different.
Supposedly taking your highest score you've ever had is what you should use.
D
tpjunkie
Jun 25, 2003, 03:56 PM
also, i wouldn't put too much stock in an internet IQ test. the only "accurate" results are from professionally administered tests.
And I scored a 129 on that test, and I'm 19. So what?
edit: i took the test
bbarnhart
Jun 25, 2003, 03:57 PM
I scored a 127. There are classes you can take for studying for your GRE. I was going to take some graduate classes and I took a sample GRE. The questions were like this, but harder. I scored poorly. I found out about these classes because I was embarrassed about scoring so low. I didn't take the classes or a real GRE so I don't know how much it would have helped. But, a lot the questions like if x is to y then a is to ... have tricks to them.
Learn the tricks and score well on the tests.
alia
Jun 25, 2003, 04:14 PM
I've actually heard that your IQ goes down as you get older, because you can't learn as fast and as efficiently as you can as a child. The IQ test is actually supposed to gauge not how much you know but how quickly you learn. Also, they are supposed to be bad at measuring creative thinking.
I scored super high as a 3 year old kid, but I bet it's gone down a LOT since then. Oh, and the score can vary by the test taken. I can't remember which one I took, but there are a couple of big ones that are usually only administered by a licensed psychologist, or something like that. I know this because my aunt has a master's in psychology, and she used to give the tests.
:D
Alia
akushlan
Jun 25, 2003, 04:16 PM
According to the eMode test that you linked to, I scored a 156
tpjunkie
Jun 25, 2003, 04:19 PM
Did you see the people that "match your ability in your area"?
I really hope no one takes this too seriously
tpjunkie
Jun 25, 2003, 04:34 PM
I just took a different online IQ test and scored a 158...thats a 31 point difference....clearly these tests are more for fun (and maybe a little bragging rights) than anything else
https://secure.iqtest.com:443/iqtestprep1.html
if anyone's interested
edit: included link
QCassidy352
Jun 25, 2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by tpjunkie
the only "accurate" results are from professionally administered tests.
that is true. this internet test is just a hook to get you in to the dating service. It may have some small amount of validity, but not much.
tazo
Jun 25, 2003, 04:39 PM
I am between like 120 and 135-ish. I am 15, 16 in october.
Mal
Jun 25, 2003, 04:47 PM
I wonder how this one compares to the one used in "Test the Nation" that aired a few weeks ago. Obviously, neither is accurate, but I scored higher on this one than was possible for someone in my age group on the show. Oh well, who cares.
JW
Computer_Phreak
Jun 25, 2003, 04:48 PM
i only got a 126... but im smarter than that.
tpjunkie
Jun 25, 2003, 04:49 PM
well, as these sites do state, IQ doesn't change with age..
MrMacMan
Jun 25, 2003, 05:00 PM
Congratulations, Jeremiah!
Your IQ score is 131
Gah damn I suck.
I have no idea if that is good... :rolleyes:
Never taken that before so...
Is that good or bad, I'm 15 so...?
applemacdude
Jun 25, 2003, 05:09 PM
OK I took the test 3 times. First time I was being lazy and got 104. Next time I actually made educated guesses and I got 132. Took It again and got 129. It seems that it is just for fun and not the real thing
mymemory
Jun 25, 2003, 05:51 PM
My EQ was 120:(
But I didn't get some of the phrases I had to complete, you can take 2 points from there and the problem with the cras going in opposite directions... any of my answers where there, the cars where creating a triangle and the longest side of the triangle had to by multiplied by 2 and that was the answer but not at all, not even doing the thing wrong.
The one I didn't get at all was the white squares with the gray squears inside, that one got me.
eyelikeart
Jun 25, 2003, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by tpjunkie
https://secure.iqtest.com:443/iqtestprep1.html
if anyone's interested
be sure to tell anyone who is that they cannot view their score without buying... :rolleyes:
I did get a 142 on the emode test though...
ilikeiBook
Jun 25, 2003, 06:01 PM
I'm 162! I'm 11 years old.
rainman::|:|
Jun 25, 2003, 06:06 PM
first off, i'm in mensa, which has a bottom requirement of somewhere between 135-140, depending (100, the scale base, is constantly fluctuating). I have tested anywhere from 130-155, depending on whether or not i'm taking my antidepressants :)
age does not really matter, as was said, an IQ by definition is your mental age over your physical age. But yes, mental age is determined by other people, so you are indeed comparing yourself to others in your age range.
IQ often only tests how well you take an IQ test. But there are ways to make it pretty accurate, and it can be a good gauge of certain things...
pnw
tpjunkie
Jun 25, 2003, 06:26 PM
be sure to tell anyone who is that they cannot view their score without buying...
did you put your email address in? it gets sent directly to your email...yeah, i was confused at first too.
vollspacken
Jun 25, 2003, 07:08 PM
I have 6... a dead horse has 10!
...mawharharhar :rolleyes:
noel4r
Jun 25, 2003, 07:18 PM
135
Dignan
Jun 25, 2003, 07:32 PM
So whats all this mensa crap about?
I got a 135 on the emode thing. I have no clue about anything dealing with IQs...
Ah, I love college.
MrMacMan
Jun 25, 2003, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by mymemory
My EQ was 120:(
But I didn't get some of the phrases I had to complete, you can take 2 points from there and the problem with the cras going in opposite directions... any of my answers where there, the cars where creating a triangle and the longest side of the triangle had to by multiplied by 2 and that was the answer but not at all, not even doing the thing wrong.
The one I didn't get at all was the white squares with the gray squears inside, that one got me.
That used A^2 + b^2 = C^2 (A*A + B*B =C*C)
6^2 + 8^2 = C^2
Originally posted by vollspacken
I have 6... a dead horse has 10!
...mawharharhar :rolleyes:
haha, what the hell. :D
GeneR
Jun 25, 2003, 07:48 PM
I dunno. I question the validity of such tests...
When I was in 2nd grade I scored 148. And I was told later by my sister that the Test Admin believed that I would have done a lot better if I had simply listened more during the test. I was notoriously bad at listening to people at that age. So the question is: Was it true?
Who knows?
Who cares?
I think emotional intelligence is far more important than I.Q. and I think it impacts our intelligence tremendously.
I've noticed that when life was depressing I have had the intelligence of a walnut.
No, that's an insult to walnuts... :D
But when it is pretty darn good, everything is the exact opposite, and I had a more photographic memory about most things.
I believe that's true for most people. I also believe that if you encourage people, their intelligence as well as their other talents will only flourish. Maybe that's the real issue?
tpjunkie
Jun 25, 2003, 08:07 PM
The one I didn't get at all was the white squares with the gray squears inside, that one got me.
That one could be solved by looking at the three images they gave you. The two inner grey dots remained in the same position in all 3 images, so it was a safe bet to leave them there for the fourth. the other two grey dots moved exactly one position in each image, one moved from the bottom up, and i beleive the other moved from right to left. From looking at the last image given in the sequence, you could move each of the moving dots in their respective position to figure out where they should be for the fourth picture.
Roger1
Jun 25, 2003, 08:43 PM
I ended up with 118. No wonder everybody calls me a dumbass :D :p
I was never good at tests like this. I understood the car one. All I had to do was figure out the hypotneuse, but I didn't fee like doing the calculations. Ah, well, ignorance is bliss:p
Roger1
Jun 25, 2003, 08:49 PM
This is what they said about me:
At the same time, we compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a Word Warrior .
The first thing we can tell you about that is you are equipped with a verbal arsenal that enables you to understand complex issues and communicate on a particularly high level. But that's just scratching the surface.
I guess this means if I tell someone to "bite me" I can say it with some athority :D
eyelikeart
Jun 25, 2003, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by tpjunkie
did you put your email address in? it gets sent directly to your email...yeah, i was confused at first too.
ah..hehe...go figure...
so yeah...that one I scored a 138 on...
so averaging 142 & 138...
I'll take the 140... ;)
Stelliform
Jun 25, 2003, 10:11 PM
paulwhannel: Mensa Eh? I always figured you were smart since you and I usually agree. ;)
From what I understand, all accurate IQ tests should be timed. Therefore I gave myself 60 seconds to complete the test. :D
I was doing good until the last part of the quiz came up and I had to fill out the personal information.... I guessed wrong on my birth year and accidentally made myself less than 13. It then refused to give me my results. :(
Oh well. I was trying to see if I could beat 6. ;)
We actually studied IQ tests in my Artificial Intelligence classes back in college. It is a really interesting dilemma. You cannot use current IQ tests on a computer until the computer can understand Natural Language. It is just like an illiterate person taking a written IQ test. The test will not reflect the person's IQ. But that is for another thread. :)
tazo
Jun 25, 2003, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by ilikeiBook
I'm 162! I'm 11 years old.
I don't think you are allowed to be here cuz of COPPA then...
dreamlance
Jun 25, 2003, 10:25 PM
124. I so hate math.
beatle888
Jun 25, 2003, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by GeneR
I've noticed that when life was depressing I have had the intelligence of a walnut.
No, that's an insult to walnuts... :D
But when it is pretty darn good, everything is the exact opposite, and I had a more photographic memory about most things.
I believe that's true for most people. I also believe that if you encourage people, their intelligence as well as their other talents will only flourish. Maybe that's the real issue?
these words are so true to my life. it helps to here a stranger put it into perspective.
beatle888
Jun 25, 2003, 10:35 PM
oh by the way, whats this about some kind of test? :)
taeclee99
Jun 25, 2003, 10:53 PM
just got a 127... what does that mean?
scem0
Jun 25, 2003, 10:53 PM
how does one figure out their IQ. I have no clue about mine.
http://www.my-smileys.de/signs/cdcb35acd7902df97d2eb5e6c320263b.png
tpjunkie
Jun 25, 2003, 11:02 PM
well. everyone here is referring to the IQ test Void linked to at the start of the thread, (and in some cases, also the one i linked to earlier in the thread)...but to get a real IQ test, it has to be administered by a pyschologist...these are really just for fun
shadowfax
Jun 25, 2003, 11:14 PM
yeah, just something a bit interesting i guess, to pass the time, eh? i got a 133 on that one. too lazy to take another one just yet.
Sun Baked
Jun 25, 2003, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by scem0
how does one figure out their IQ. I have no clue about mine.
http://www.my-smileys.de/signs/cdcb35acd7902df97d2eb5e6c320263b.png I'd guess mine at somewhere in the middle of -- above average and below average.
Unless the members here are using a median scale today, then it would probably be halfway between the top and bottom.
scem0
Jun 25, 2003, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
That used A^2 + b^2 = C^2 (A*A + B*B =C*C)
6^2 + 8^2 = C^2
haha, what the hell. :D
yeah that one was a pythagorean triple (6,8,10). Kind of vague though because it never states what they turned at right angles. Oh well.
WTF 135?! I should have gotten better than that..... :(
http://www.my-smileys.de/signs/cdcb35acd7902df97d2eb5e6c320263b.png
haha:
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Doctor Q
Jun 26, 2003, 12:17 AM
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MrMacMan
Jun 26, 2003, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by tazo
I don't think you are allowed to be here cuz of COPPA then...
Haha, he got his parents to sign a written letter saying he could, REALLY. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by scem0
yeah that one was a pythagorean triple (6,8,10). Kind of vague though because it never states what they turned at right angles. Oh well.
WTF 135?! I should have gotten better than that..... :(
http://www.my-smileys.de/signs/cdcb35acd7902df97d2eb5e6c320263b.png
haha:
Eh, I guessed. It looked like right angles, therefore it is. :rolleyes:
But someone on another forums said it was 20, I think he is messing with me, but hasn't responded to me either...
MacMan4Life
Jun 26, 2003, 01:40 AM
Just to let everyone know, these online tests are BOGUS. They mean nothing and have about as much to do with intelligence as Microsoft has to do with making a good OS, no connection! I have taken many online tests and have never scored lower than 120, even when I entered wrong answers on purpose to test the test, and see how accurate it was.
Any way, did any one wath "Test the Nation" on Fox? That was the most worthless 2 hours of television I have ever seen. The test proved nothing, had ZERO statistical significance. Trust me, after taking Statistics 351 I know this was worthless.
tazo
Jun 26, 2003, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by MacMan4Life
Just to let everyone know, these online tests are BOGUS. They mean nothing and have about as much to do with intelligence as Microsoft has to do with making a good OS, no connection! I have taken many online tests and have never scored lower than 120, even when I entered wrong answers on purpose to test the test, and see how accurate it was.
Any way, did any one wath "Test the Nation" on Fox? That was the most worthless 2 hours of television I have ever seen. The test proved nothing, had ZERO statistical significance. Trust me, after taking Statistics 351 I know this was worthless.
I watched the last hour or so of the show. but the whole, who will be smarter, the scientists or the blondes thing sorta upset me. But hey washington st. was labeled the smartest state to answer online :) lol. but i agree, online IQ tests are nothing if not coupled with a valid real life adminisitred-by-a-human IQ test.
Wardofsky
Jun 26, 2003, 02:34 AM
I don't really believe in IQ tests or anything related to them after a national televised test.
They seperated everyone into groups by their hair colour (So they seperated blondes), race (Asians, Americans, Africans, etc.) and also other seemingly stupid things generally physical attributes.
Some of the questions seemed just irrelavent:
What side do you take to when on an elevator?[list=1]
Left
Right
Middle
[/list=1]
I mean, in America, you drive on the right, in Aus you drive on the left.
Would the same apply for elevators?
Oh yeah, my IQ is 231123.203^124
QCassidy352
Jun 26, 2003, 02:45 AM
Just so we all know, a score of 100 is the mean, the distribution is normal, and the standard deviation is 15. So anyone above 130 is scoring in the top 2.5 percent (because 95% of scores in a normal distribution fall within 2 standard deviations of the mean). So to say that you're "a dumbass" for getting a 120, or some such nonsense, is just that - nonsense...
It's also worth pointing out that an alternative theory of IQ, and one that I think is more valid, holds that there are 7 types of intelligence. They are (I think - it's been a while since I had to know them): logical, mathematical, verbal, musical, spatial, interpersonal, and intrapersonal.
The old IQ method is just too limited, IMO, and in the opinions of many experts as well. What do you say about a professor who wins a nobel prize in physics but can never remember where his keys or shoes are? Or a concert pianist who can't carry on an ordinary conversation in a social situation? Or a celebrated novelist who never understood algebra? Are these people smart or stupid? Would an IQ score accurately reflect their real-world intelligence? And those are difficulties with even a *valid* test... which this is not.
QCassidy352
Jun 26, 2003, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
someone on another forums said it was 20, I think he is messing with me, but hasn't responded to me either...
the answer was 20, if we are talking about the same question (driving and taking a left...)
GeneR
Jun 26, 2003, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by QCassidy352
Just so we all know, a score of 100 is the mean, the distribution is normal, and the standard deviation is 15. So anyone above 130 is scoring in the top 2.5 percent (because 95% of scores in a normal distribution fall within 2 standard deviations of the mean). So to say that you're "a dumbass" for getting a 120, or some such nonsense, is just that - nonsense...
It's also worth pointing out that an alternative theory of IQ, and one that I think is more valid, holds that there are 7 types of intelligence. They are (I think - it's been a while since I had to know them): logical, mathematical, verbal, musical, spatial, interpersonal, and intrapersonal.
The old IQ method is just too limited, IMO, and in the opinions of many experts as well. What do you say about a professor who wins a nobel prize in physics but can never remember where his keys or shoes are? Or a concert pianist who can't carry on an ordinary conversation in a social situation? Or a celebrated novelist who never understood algebra? Are these people smart or stupid? Would an IQ score accurately reflect their real-world intelligence? And those are difficulties with even a *valid* test... which this is not.
Dang. I am now convince that QCassidy is simply too smart for this particular thread. :D
QCassidy simply makes too much sense! ;) :p
britboy
Jun 26, 2003, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Eh, I guessed. It looked like right angles, therefore it is. :rolleyes:
But someone on another forums said it was 20, I think he is messing with me, but hasn't responded to me either...
It's 20, that's for sure. Both cars are driving in opposite directions, and each is 10 miles from their origin after the 6 miles/8 miles. Add those together, and you get (surprise surprise) 20 miles apart! :rolleyes:
For the record, i scored 135. Does anyone find it odd that no-one is reporting a score of anything below average? Surely not everyone here is a genius...... I don't think I would place too much faith in the reliability of this test.
void
Jun 26, 2003, 05:32 AM
Yeah.. Ummm... This uh test is uhh complete bogus so uhh my uhh test score is lower than it should be.
But when I was like 7 I was tested and I had like 178
Roger1
Jun 26, 2003, 06:41 AM
britboy:
For the record, i scored 135. Does anyone find it odd that no-one is reporting a score of anything below average? Surely not everyone here is a genius...... I don't think I would place too much faith in the reliability of this test
Just out of curiosity, what is average?
Wardofsky
Jun 26, 2003, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by Roger1
Just out of curiosity, what is average?
The average is what the entire test field makes it, but can you say to yourself "I am average?"
Every single living being is completely different (including identical twins) and depending on the way you were brought up, the way you ate and the way you were taught can change the outcome.
Look into someones personality and you'll see what they are really made up of.
Courage and integerity to name some.
G. W. Bush is not that (overall) intelligent (sorry fellas, he's said and done some stupid things before) yet he still is the Preseident of the United States of America.
Enough about me, what about you?
If you haven't figured already, I don't believe in judging someone soley on their intelligence.
scem0
Jun 26, 2003, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by britboy
For the record, i scored 135. Does anyone find it odd that no-one is reporting a score of anything below average? Surely not everyone here is a genius...... I don't think I would place too much faith in the reliability of this test.
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It just doesn't seem like anyone who got below average would post what they got.
scem0
Mr. Anderson
Jun 26, 2003, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by britboy
For the record, i scored 135. Does anyone find it odd that no-one is reporting a score of anything below average? Surely not everyone here is a genius...... I don't think I would place too much faith in the reliability of this test.
The test was a little too easy. Its all a scam - you get all excited about your above average score and send away for the results, which you pay for.
Sure some of the questions are a more difficult than others - but I didn't find any all that difficult. Although I only scored a 129 - it would be interesting to see which ones were wrong according to them....;)
D
bcsimac
Jun 26, 2003, 08:31 AM
I have taken several IQ tests in the past. The first one I took was back when I was in 5th grade. Dr. Masone gave me the test so that it could be determined what was best for me as far as my education. My family was trying to decide whether to keep me in public schools or put me into a private school. At the time, I scored a 99. Dr. Masone recommended I go to a private school especially since I had a particular interest in the Bible and Theology. He felt the smaller class size, higher academic requirements, strong Bible teaching, strong Theological teaching, and the Christian atmosphere would be better for me. My mom took his advice and withdrew me from public school; and for the last two months of the school year, I was put in Cranesville Christian Academy. I stayed at Cranesville for the next 6 years before moving on to another private school for one year and then back to public for my senior year. (Cranesville required that all students who came from public schools to repeat the grade in which they enrolled in.) In College, I took another IQ test from the school counseling center. I scored a 110. I again took another IQ test for Pennsylvania Vocational Rehabilitation to see if I qualified for financial assistance in a college program I wanted to enroll in. I scored a 109 this time. My verbal IQ is 117. My math IQ or performance IQ is only 85. These scores are probably very accurate since my SAT score was 600 verbal and 400 math. Anyway, I qualified for financial assistance for the college program; but because of some things that occured in the past, I didn't end up going to college. The problem as in the past has been the lack of commitment from my family to support me in educational endeavors if it means it costs them anything. Very frustrating if you ask me.....very frustrating!
Bengt77
Jun 26, 2003, 08:34 AM
...but it wouldn't load. Will try it again in a minute, but the page didn't load. Went back, reloaded, but nothing on the first page left either. Darn! Just while I was going on nicely...
Got to go and check the test again now...
:rolleyes:
niar
Jun 26, 2003, 08:40 AM
check this (http://www.highiqsociety.org/noflash/nonmembers/iqtests.htm) test
Bengt77
Jun 26, 2003, 08:53 AM
Your IQ score is 126
:rolleyes:
tpjunkie
Jun 26, 2003, 09:11 AM
oh fun, another one. when i get back from work i'll try it. or maybe during my lunch break.
whooleytoo
Jun 26, 2003, 09:28 AM
Heh, I'd tried two before (and got 139 and 140), so was curious how these would compare. On the Emode test, 138 (pretty consistant, is that a good sign? :) ) On the other one, 158. I wish..
Mike.
Mr. Anderson
Jun 26, 2003, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by niar
check this (http://www.highiqsociety.org/noflash/nonmembers/iqtests.htm) test
haha, much better test, actually had to think a bit on some of those. And I obviously did good enough to join the 'club' :D
Still silliness....
D
Sweetfeld28
Jun 26, 2003, 09:31 AM
I scored a 165 on an IQ test off of MSN's homepage. But i also took another one off another webpage and only received a 137. I think that IQ tests are a bunch of BS if you ask me.
Warren
Jun 26, 2003, 09:45 AM
That emode test is just trying to get you to buy the "full report" They make everyone think they are a genius so they get fired up and send them some money. I haven't seen a score under 120 from that site.
Bengt77
Jun 26, 2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by niar
check this (http://www.highiqsociety.org/noflash/nonmembers/iqtests.htm) test
I scored 150. It was enough to JOIN NOW! Should I?
scem0
Jun 26, 2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by niar
check this (http://www.highiqsociety.org/noflash/nonmembers/iqtests.htm) test
holy ****ing ****..... that took a long time.
Billicus
Jun 26, 2003, 11:14 AM
I took the test first linked to and apparantly I have a an average IQ for people here at Macrumors. Your IQ score is 126 they said. I guess Mac users are just smarter than the typical PC user...;)
tpjunkie
Jun 26, 2003, 12:16 PM
Wow that really did take a long, long time, and i was trying to breeze through it...now im late for work, oh well...I got a 142
edit: w00t! Mac Rumors Regular!
rueyeet
Jun 26, 2003, 12:21 PM
Emode gave me a 131. But of course, their tests are mostly geared towards finding you a compatible date, so their validity is suspect.
My problem with IQ testing is that you can't measure something if you can't define it. And as far as I know, the scientific world is still bickering over the definition of intelligence. The qualities that contribute to intelligence--memory, problem-solving, the ability to acquire and retain information and synthesize it into conclusions, etc--are pretty well agreed on at a subjective level, but there's still no hard-and-fast definition that would allow us to not only quantify intelligence, but measure it in units.
Just look at the studies on animal intelligence. Those researchers are having as hard a time with what really consitutes intelligence as in proving that their various animals display those characteristics. Or artificial intelligence. Is passing the Turing Test enough? Can intelligence really occur separately from sentience?
To sum: IQ and IQ testing are bunk. They're just another way for some members of the human species to claim superiority over others of the human species. And intelligence alone is a piss-poor way to judge anyone's superiority, as other posters have noted.
mymemory
Jun 26, 2003, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
That used A^2 + b^2 = C^2 (A*A + B*B =C*C)
6^2 + 8^2 = C^2
Sh*tt! what a discusting flashback! I'm so glad those days are over:rolleyes:
WinterMute
Jun 26, 2003, 07:01 PM
Never taken a test, don't believe in them, the courses I lecture on are all practically based and assessed, testing is usually negative.
Maths confuses me, I'm as obtuse as a cat sometimes, but I can run a modern recording studio and I've got a masters degree...
Raw IQ means nothing
medea
Jun 26, 2003, 07:06 PM
I was not going to partake in this thread, but I could not resist. I'll leave out my score but emodes result say's I am an "insightful linguist." Personally I couldn't have asked for a better answer because I am horrible at math, to be honest I didn't even give the math questions a try, it scares me....
Phil Of Mac
Jun 26, 2003, 08:25 PM
Well, animal intelligence and human intelligence are completely different, because animals don't have the capacity to reason, while humans do.
On the emode test, last time I took it, I got in the 120's.
On a professionally administered test in my childhood, I got something in the 130-140's range.
At iqtest.com I got a 151.
pwm519
Jun 26, 2003, 09:06 PM
For everyone complaining about their 130+ scores......I had my IQ taken a few times in school and it was always in the low 130s......that makes me smart enough to get through 2 years of medical school and have 2 publications in the sciences by the age of 24.
Actually these IQ tests are all coming out close to what my school tests were.
MrMacMan
Jun 26, 2003, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by QCassidy352
the answer was 20, if we are talking about the same question (driving and taking a left...)
How do you figure that, it was a triangle to get back the the middle (6*6 + 8** = C^2)
100 = C^2
10 = C
I didn't do that bad in math... :eek:
Originally posted by britboy
It's 20, that's for sure. Both cars are driving in opposite directions, and each is 10 miles from their origin after the 6 miles/8 miles. Add those together, and you get (surprise surprise) 20 miles apart! :rolleyes:
Ah I guess I didn't read that question right, I though it wanted how far TO where they started, which would have been 10 miles per car. Guess they wanted to know away from eachother...
and I didn't think I was being funny, but thanks for the rolleyes...
Originally posted by mymemory
Sh*tt! what a discusting flashback! I'm so glad those days are over:rolleyes:
Haha, sorry.
BTW THIS TOPIC IS TOTALLY SCREWY WITH THE 5 Different IQ Tests Everyone linked us to!!
Zaid
Jun 27, 2003, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by Bengt77
I scored 150. It was enough to JOIN NOW! Should I?
Not quite as brilliant as you :) i only managed 146, but i wouldn't join. IQ tests don't really say that much, the only thing they are good for is fun challenging questions :) besides do you really want to join a club for smart people? its kind of sad don't you think?
rt_brained
Jun 27, 2003, 10:55 AM
Me score 62 test vary hart. Meny long qwestion.
Gud for me to taek.
agreenster
Jun 27, 2003, 11:26 AM
Your IQ isnt the most important thing in the world: In fact, probably one of the least.
The most important thing is your 'I Will.' There are thousands of certifiable geniuses in the world, but only those who take the extra step to develop their talents and skills, and apply them to make their life or their world a better place are worth the clothes on their back.
Id much rather be a dumb-ass who works his brains out to succeed in life than a freakin genius who loafs around while 'success' falls in his lap. Nothing is more rewarding than a good days work.
Just my thoughts.
rueyeet
Jun 27, 2003, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Well, animal intelligence and human intelligence are completely different, because animals don't have the capacity to reason, while humans do.
Well, some of them do, as far as the scientists can tell, and of course that depends on the definition of "reasoning."
The ability to decieve and problem-solving are two abilities that are supposed to require reasoning skills, since they both require being able to imagine future consquences and take an action that will influence those in your favor. And various species of animals can do one or the other--or both. I'd say that the separation between human and animal intelligence is only a matter of degree, personally.
Neat sig, by the way... :)
Phil Of Mac
Jun 27, 2003, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by rueyeet
Well, some of them do, as far as the scientists can tell, and of course that depends on the definition of "reasoning."
The ability to decieve and problem-solving are two abilities that are supposed to require reasoning skills, since they both require being able to imagine future consquences and take an action that will influence those in your favor. And various species of animals can do one or the other--or both. I'd say that the separation between human and animal intelligence is only a matter of degree, personally.
Neat sig, by the way... :)
Various species can do those things out of adapted instinct. Humans have very complex instincts as well. We can even train our instincts. But animals in the wild only need one set of instincts if they're gonna be in the same environment.
There are actual differences between human and animal brains. There are complete structures that they and we have in common, but there are a fwe more structures found only in humans. In any case, we still have Manhattan to separate us :)
And thanks :)
AppleMatt
Jun 27, 2003, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by QCassidy352
It's also worth pointing out that an alternative theory of IQ, and one that I think is more valid, holds that there are 7 types of intelligence. They are (I think - it's been a while since I had to know them): logical, mathematical, verbal, musical, spatial, interpersonal, and intrapersonal.
Yes I learnt about that...good ol' Gardner. In all fairness he did some stange experiments. Also it's kinasthetic not logical (logical falls under logical-mathmatical).
Originally posted by Billicus
I took the test first linked to and apparantly I have a an average IQ for people here at Macrumors. Your IQ score is 126 they said. I guess Mac users are just smarter than the typical PC user...;)
Where was that? I know I read somewhere that Mac users are more intelligent than PC users. Seriously, if anyone knows where I can find that, speak up.
[hated years of education]
IQ tests are:
- Subjective (We're all different after all)
- Ethnocentric (Horrific consequences in WWII)
- Test education rather than intelligence. (If you haven't been taught factorials, how is testing your ability to solve a factorial a valid measure of intellignce?)
- Not valid/too variable (the famous Mozart D Major Sonata)
- You cannot increase your IQ. You can increase your intelligence. Go figure.
- In conclusion, bolox.
[/hated years of education]
Also about IQ and age...IQ does not decrease with age. What does decrease is the maximum IQ score you can be given.
For the record...the lowest I have tested is 132. The highest I have tested is 161. If difference was standardised to 100, that difference would make me either mentally retarded (70) or exceptionally intelligent (130). How can something with that degree of error be considered valid?
Always bear in mind, Einstein didn't start talking until he was 3!
AppleMatt
jayscheuerle
Jun 27, 2003, 01:35 PM
Internet tests are bunk.
When I was in 5th grade, a test was administered and I got a 156.
When I was in my late 20s, I thought joining Mensa would be a cool way to meet some smart women (that alone shows that IQ means squat!). My professionally administered score was 156 again! That's even enough for Intertel.
The people at my local Mensa chapter were nice enough, but most were geeks with little in the way of social skills, drawn together solely because of test score numbers, not because of interests (other than Star Trek, chess, etc.). These were people I'd never hang out with, much less date, so I bagged it quickly.
I'm not sure what these tests truly measure, but I'm apparently pretty good at it, though not impressed at all. My mom uses it as bragging rights sometimes, but I'm much more proud of furniture I've designed and built or the daughter I'm raising.
Just a number... - j
jayscheuerle
Jun 27, 2003, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by agreenster
Your IQ isnt the most important thing in the world: In fact, probably one of the least.
The most important thing is your 'I Will.' There are thousands of certifiable geniuses in the world, but only those who take the extra step to develop their talents and skills, and apply them to make their life or their world a better place are worth the clothes on their back.
Id much rather be a dumb-ass who works his brains out to succeed in life than a freakin genius who loafs around while 'success' falls in his lap. Nothing is more rewarding than a good days work.
Just my thoughts.
Bravo! Good thoughts indeed.
jayscheuerle
Jun 27, 2003, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by AppleMatt
Always bear in mind, Einstein didn't start talking until he was 3!
AppleMatt
That's because he was smart enough to realize that 3 year olds don't have anything important to say! :D
Rasmuskl
Jun 27, 2003, 01:44 PM
Well i am sure no one here will post an IQ of less than 120 and most will probably show that they are in the 130-140's.
I have found that the nature of these online tests seem to indicate you are 10-20 points smarter than you are, just to make you feel good.
I have taken a few myself for fun, but I can't take them seriously i have scored between 140-160. I don't feel that damn smart. (Why are my socks different ?)
Honestly i am not that great a believer in IQ scores as i have known people that score really high but are dumba$$ people, putting so much importance on their score they forget to think.
And as for organizations with the sole entry requirement being high IQ (Bahh) Could you be more pretentious.
Don't want to get mixed up with the common man. Who knows you might catch something.
Nermal
Jun 27, 2003, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by skywalker
I wonder how this one compares to the one used in "Test the Nation" that aired a few weeks ago. Obviously, neither is accurate, but I scored higher on this one than was possible for someone in my age group on the show. Oh well, who cares.
JW
There's one of those airing over here in a couple of weeks, dunno whether I'll try it or not.
Anyway, I've done 2 "real" tests, and got 135-138. I've also done a couple of online tests and my result varies ridiculously.
monkeybutler
Nov 21, 2003, 03:05 PM
I took a professionally administered IQ test like last week and I scored a 158. Plus I'm just 13!
eyelikeart
Nov 21, 2003, 03:25 PM
5 months later...
Doctor Q
Nov 21, 2003, 03:35 PM
That was a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng test! I hope they let you get up to stretch every month or two.
Seriously, monkeybutler, congratulations! These tests aren't an exact science, and the companies that administer them may have a conflict of interest if their customers are happiest when they issue high scores, but that's an impressive score just the same. Was the test a mixture of word problems, math problems, and spatial thinking problems?
ColoJohnBoy
Nov 21, 2003, 03:35 PM
The test on Emode isn't exactly reliable. I answered all the questiosn correctly, and I only scored a 144 - that's the highest score Emode allows. If you want to find out your actual IQ you should take a test that Mensa accepts for admission into their club. And yeah, IQ tests are mostly meaningless.
It is fun to brag when you get a high score, though
192.
:D:D:D:D:D
eyelikeart
Nov 21, 2003, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by ColoJohnBoy
. And yeah, IQ tests are mostly meaningless.
It is fun to brag when you get a high score, though
192.
I hear that. The highest I've scored on any test is 147 & the lowest I've scored was a 126 (or so I think). I figure it's better to average them all out.
Steradian
Nov 21, 2003, 04:00 PM
I got 143 when I took the test in 4th grade...It means NOTHING...I am not a smart cookie as much as I would like to believe
Foucault
Nov 21, 2003, 04:01 PM
126, and I didn't even graduate junior high... I'm jk
gwuMACaddict
Nov 21, 2003, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by agreenster
Your IQ isnt the most important thing in the world: In fact, probably one of the least.
Id much rather be a dumb-ass who works his brains out to succeed in life than a freakin genius who loafs around while 'success' falls in his lap. Nothing is more rewarding than a good days work.
couldn't have said it better. my friends and i dared each other one time to take a mensa approved test at our high school. it was administered by some mensa rep. we all made it in to mensa, and we have all gone very different places since. nothing beats determination and learning from your mistakes when it comes to figuring things out
D0ct0rteeth
Nov 21, 2003, 04:44 PM
Congratulations, D0ct0rteeth!
Your IQ score is 144
We also compared your answers with others who have taken the test. According to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is a Visionary Philosopher.
This means you are highly intelligent and have a powerful mix of skills and insight that can be applied in a variety of different ways. Like Plato, your exceptional math and verbal skills make you very adept at explaining things to others — and at anticipating and predicting patterns. And that's just some of what we know about you from your IQ results.
All that just so they can capture my email address, and spam me :)
- Doc
tazo
Nov 21, 2003, 06:44 PM
Most tests I take seem to point in the 130+ direction.....
KBFinFan
Nov 21, 2003, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by paulwhannel
f
age does not really matter, as was said, an IQ by definition is your mental age over your physical age. But yes, mental age is determined by other people, so you are indeed comparing yourself to others in your age range.
Actually, no..what you are referring to is known as a ratio IQ which was originally used in the Stanford Binet Intelligence Scale during its second revision (the current revision is 5 and it has just been released).
What is commonly used now is a deviation IQ which compares your score with others of similar age in the standardization sample.
Finally.. it has been found that people with IQs over 130 reach an intelligence 'peak,' and that scores over that number really show no difference. IQs over 130 put you at the top 2% of the population; IQs between 120 to 130 are considered superior and represent 8%; 110-120 is high average/bright (Dr.'s=119); 90-109 is average and thus is at the 50th percentile.
Overall, my babbling suggests that IQ scores on the Internet are meaningless, especially since most people have acquired 'super genius' status. There are many variations in IQ test, but respectable ones such as the Stanford Binet and Wechsler Test (WAIS for adults; WISC for children) are given over several hours.
monkeybutler
Nov 22, 2003, 01:29 PM
the test that I took had lots of analogies, if so and so is taller than so and so then this must be true, and lots of logic questions like if all spiffs are monks and some monks are quinns, then some spiffs must be quinns (true or false) thanks for the congrats!:D
alset
Nov 22, 2003, 01:33 PM
I don't trust online polls. I had my IQ tested when I was a child by an institution. I'm very happy with my numbers. Private info.... ;)
Dan
rainman::|:|
Nov 22, 2003, 02:25 PM
i wish people would stop bringing up their age. it's completely irrelevant. the test factors this in, so beyond that it's worthless.
anyone that scores above 135 should consider the accuracy of the test... again, that's the bottom line for mensa (give or take), which means that only one person in fifty-- 2% --of the general population will score that highly (or higher). also, IQ tests cannot accurately measure scores over 170 or so, so if you get something very specific (like 192), someone is probably feeding you a line. they are just beginning to develop tests that can do more than estimate these high scores.
anyone that's interested in joining mensa, feel free to ask questions. i'm going to be an officer next year, so i should probably urge people to test :)
pnw
King Cobra
Nov 22, 2003, 02:47 PM
The Emode test I took twice before today (or the past few days...) and scored 124, then 128. The one from highIQsociety was disappointing... 118. I've been real-life tested 131 in a difference of three years (11 and 14). And a few months back the one from IQtest.com scored me a 155.
So a difference in IQs of about 37 isn't bad, huh? Maybe I should try harder. :D
buckwyld
Jan 11, 2004, 01:54 AM
Scored 134 - Secure IQ Test
https://secure.iqtest.com
Scored 124 - emode
http://web.tickle.com/tests/uiq/
scem0
Jan 11, 2004, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by buckwyld
[B]Scored 134 - Secure IQ Test
https://secure.iqtest.com
Just took that one and I got a 134 too :).
and according to the email:
Average: 85 - 115
Above average: 116 - 125
Gifted Borderline Genius: 126 - 135
Highly gifted and appearing to be a Genius to most others: 136 - 145
Genius: 146 - 165
High Genius: 166 - 180
Highest Genius: 181 - 200
Beyond being measurable Genius: Over 200
I am most definitely not a 'gifted borderline genius', and certainly not close to being 'highly gifted'.
Maybe they automaticall give you a 134. Kind of odd that we get the same score.
Maybe I'll take the other test you cited and see if I get a similar score to yours. :)
edit - ive already taken it. Im gunna search for my score in an older post.
I got a 135 on eMode. I probably scored higher than on the test I just took because its 3:30 in the morning ;).
scem0
themadchemist
Jan 11, 2004, 03:54 AM
IQs are total BS. Little puzzle and mind games, meh, not that informative in my opinion, whether from emode or a 'professional' administrator. It is not the proctor that makes the difference, it is the fraudulent, inaccurate test.
The last time I took an IQ test was in 8th grade. I was, oh, I think 12 or so. Yeah, that sounds about right. I took the Woodcock Johnson (now that's a funny name!) and scored 151. Supposedly, the 99.9th percentile or some such. I just took it to get into Mensa, to whom I fortunately decided to stop paying memberships fees a couple years later.
Anyway, despite my score, I think the things are bogus. No test can measure 'raw intelligence.' I doubt that that term itself is very useful, because in life, you don't use raw intelligence, but rather a combination of learned and inherent ability that manifests itself in all tasks, including taking a test.
I mean, I'm sure it's accurate enough to tell you that you're reasonably intelligent vs. brain dead, but that's about it.
scem0
Jan 11, 2004, 04:48 AM
I agree, tests like this are BS.
But they can be fun to compare scores. But they are definitely not a very accurate way of comparing intellegence.
scem0
virividox
Jan 11, 2004, 08:18 AM
i got a 143. but its the net and i dont believe anything on the net...thats why i post ina rumors site!!!
PRØBE
Jan 11, 2004, 08:20 AM
IQ tests are absolutely great... at measuring how good you are at doing IQ tests, and not much more.
Grimace
Jan 11, 2004, 09:17 AM
Okay people, the max iq you can be is 150.
It is always relative to your age group.
These questions bare no resemblance to an actual IQ test - I administer them - I know.
edesignuk
Jan 11, 2004, 09:21 AM
http://upload.edesignuk.net/uploaded_data/smilies/thread_capacity_breached.jpg
Mr. Anderson
Jan 11, 2004, 09:34 AM
Ok, whats with the necromancy and resurrecting this old thread?
I.Q. tests are only a partial measure of intelligence - they don't do more than serve as a starting point. There are so many aspects that can't be measured by a written test - what about musical genius?
D
Dont Hurt Me
Jan 11, 2004, 10:10 AM
true, how do you measure wisdom or experience?
kwajo.com
Jan 11, 2004, 12:37 PM
last time i wrote an IQ test (maybe a year ago or more) I scored a 181. i thought it was pretty solid :D
mind you I have been drinking a lot lately :(
ColoJohnBoy
Jan 11, 2004, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by paulwhannel
anyone that scores above 135 should consider the accuracy of the test... again, that's the bottom line for mensa (give or take), which means that only one person in fifty-- 2% --of the general population will score that highly (or higher). also, IQ tests cannot accurately measure scores over 170 or so, so if you get something very specific (like 192), someone is probably feeding you a line. they are just beginning to develop tests that can do more than estimate these high scores.
Actually, that's not entirely accurate. It is true that the Stanford-Binet test, the most common test administered, does not record scores above 160. Several other tests, however, do accurately measure higher IQs, like the Mega Test and the Titan Test, that are recognized as being accurate and effective.
Anyhow, I wanted to ask, what are the reasons for joining Mensa? I've always been curious about what is done there, and considered joining.
true777
Jan 11, 2004, 03:23 PM
That emode thing is bogus, IMHO. The questions look too easy
to be in a real test. They just want you to join their dating service, and you're more likely to do so if they just made you feel good about yourself.
Phil Of Mac
Jan 11, 2004, 03:27 PM
What's really unreliable isn't an IQ test, it's a personality test. I haven't found a single one that works for me. I took eHarmony's test, and it came up with, "Sorry, you're the 1/5 of humanity that we can't classify and match with our test!"
kettle
Jan 11, 2004, 03:47 PM
YES.
kettle
Jan 11, 2004, 03:49 PM
this isn't the "Have you ever been drunk" thread then?
hmm
How would one post on that thread?:confused:
Sun Baked
Jan 11, 2004, 03:53 PM
Here's a cool picture for the highQ members ...
kettle
Jan 11, 2004, 03:53 PM
Don't worry, I found it on my other tab, is it just me or are these tab thingies really confusing:confused:
IQ is like when you test your printer for Ink Quality right? I get it. cool :)
ibookin'
Jan 13, 2004, 12:42 AM
I don't know. When I took the test I was pretty young (6 or 7) so I wasn't supposed to know the score. It is >=145, though, because I went to a magnet where the required IQ was 145.
janey
Jan 13, 2004, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by ibookin'
I don't know. When I took the test I was pretty young (6 or 7) so I wasn't supposed to know the score. It is >=145, though, because I went to a magnet where the required IQ was 145.
Haha. You never told me that.
I've taken two IQ tests (like...legit from a psychologist...not the bs from a lot of websites...you can select the incorrect answers on all the problems and you'll get like a 140 :rolleyes: ) and my IQ > 180 supposedly.
Mensa minimum is 142 if I remember correctly for most standard IQ tests. It's on their website if anyone cares to look.
I thought about joining Mensa, until i was like screw this i dont really give a damn...and also if i remember correctly again, you don't need to supply your IQ score if you choose to take one of their tests.
What is with people and online IQ tests? They brag about something that isnt really a real IQ test. Just some stupid series of questions...
Also, what is with people who tell us their ages? IQ varies (or at least is supposed to vary) around 0-10 points in your entire lifetime. Your age doesn't matter. There are IQ tests you can take specially designed for your age, and they're all similar. So if you get like a 120 when you're 10, you'll get something around 120, give or take a few points when you're 60, even when you take different IQ tests.
Besides, IQ tests only measure how well you can take a test and understand certain concepts. So if you have a high IQ, chances are you learn faster than average, so of course you do well on the IQ test. That's all.
I don't understand why IQ scores are so hyped.
For people who really don't have a clue as to what average IQ is:
100 is supposed to be average.
130-145 is gifted
145 and above is highly gifted/genius/insanely smart
On page 1 or 2 of this thread someone explains the entire thing correctly.
btw, who brought this thread back to life? all people do is brag about their scores. if you have an insanely high IQ, you'll just become really arrogant like me lol. trust me you don't want to be arrogant.
Phil Of Mac
Jan 13, 2004, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by übergeek
btw, who brought this thread back to life? all people do is brag about their scores. if you have an insanely high IQ, you'll just become really arrogant like me lol. trust me you don't want to be arrogant.
I don't know, arrogance can be fun.
janey
Jan 13, 2004, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
I don't know, arrogance can be fun.
bah.
arson
Jan 13, 2004, 01:48 PM
I was given an IQ test at a local mental health center when I was in the 3rd grade because I was always uninterested in school. My score was 140. My high score is offset by my laziness, so it all works out.
PRØBE
Jan 13, 2004, 03:23 PM
Will people PLEASE resist the need to come on here bragging about their
(probably made up) IQs.
Wasn't one of the answers to that Mickey Mouse IQ test that old Socrates line about the smart cookies knowing that they know nothing?
Thanx :)
bont
Jan 13, 2004, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by PRØBE
Wasn't one of the answers to that Mickey Mouse IQ test that old Socrates line about the smart cookies knowing that they know nothing?
Thanx :)
That must be one of the few questions I answered correctly:)
arson
Jan 13, 2004, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by PRØBE
Will people PLEASE resist the need to come on here bragging about their
(probably made up) IQs. That is the topic of this thread. If you're not interested in what people have to say, you should probably not visit the thread.
:rolleyes:
PRØBE
Jan 13, 2004, 04:00 PM
Bragging and arrogance aren't part of the thread.
But ok I'll keep you happy...
My IQ is 196 and I'm only 5, and I was drunk and tired when I did the test (which took me 30 seconds). I was begged to join MENSA, but they too dumb for me.
Sorted.;)
arson
Jan 13, 2004, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by PRØBE
But ok I'll keep you happy... Unless you're a big breasted lesbian with a cooler of beer hanging around your neck, I doubt you could keep me happy. :eek:
blueflame
Jan 13, 2004, 04:10 PM
eh.
matthew24
Jan 13, 2004, 04:56 PM
10^99
:rolleyes:
blue&whiteman
Mar 20, 2004, 08:50 AM
mine is about 131. 130 is about the average for a teacher and thats what I am :)
Thomas Veil
Mar 20, 2004, 10:49 AM
I took an IQ test in school many years ago, and they told my parents my IQ was 132.
Now that I'm thirty or so years older, I feel a lot dumber. Nevertheless, I took that test a while back, and it rated my IQ at 127.
Guess I haven't slipped that much. :D
Oh yeah...it also classified me as a Word Warrior, which fits in exactly with my experience. I've always been good with language.
frankzeg
Mar 20, 2004, 11:05 AM
Measuring intellectual capacity with any practical test is like measuring what a vehicle can do by measuring its length. The older I get the more clear it gets that there are many different axes of mental capacity- perhaps thousands. Some of which I am very good at- while others I hate to even think about. If we treat the mind as something not magical then it clearly performs in ways broadly analogous to the pitifully simple machines we can make. How many different functional features/performance axes can you name in the broad category of say "airplanes". They all fly but in how many different ways? How many different jobs can all these machines that are the "same" do. Imagine a machine thousands to perhaps millions of times more complex ( difficult to even measure "complexity" at some point) with a design and manufacturing history that spans millenia. Imagine the diversity of function that it would exhibit and the weird arcana that would be present from old functions (sort of like DOS) that remain embedded and at least partially "supported".
It is also clear that a mental capacity which is unused will atrophy just like our muscles. My mind certainly has not remained in stasis since I was in grade school. Learning especially is something which I think can be kept "in shape" or be reduced to a barely functional level. I am reminded of this each time I come back from an extended vacation.
I also wonder about the various things that each of us "hate to do" - like math- something that comes up over and over. Yet we will put up with all sorts of mental stress and even physical pain when there is a clear goal that we want to get to at the end. Think about the process that so many folks put up with learning to play an instrument or learning to rock climb or ride a skateboard. As a design engineer who had probably the least inclination to math (for its own sake) in my whole class I find doing the math to be a minor inconvenience on the way to making a new idea into reality- sort of like what a guitarist puts up with pushing on those skinny strings so many times. It seems like if you are confronted with learning math (or anything else) without any goal behind it (beyond those irritating cars on the road problems) you will have no end motivation and hence feel the full brunt of learning it without the sweet payoff of getting "something you want". Hence a feedback loop develops in which you avoid that stress (since there is no payback) and find something else to learn which has that payback.
I'm no neuroscientist but I am repeatedly struck at how "easy" learning to do something that I really loved was from my perspective yet if you were to describe the detail process that you went though to someone else it sounds awful- like someone ELSE must have done all that work. There have GOT to be neurochemicals that make us not even notice the process when the end goal is soooooo good.
This also suggests the incredible value of inspirational teachers on our mind's end state. Makes you think about where our priorities lie.
It is also interesting that there is increasing evidence from functional PET scans that we do our best when the mind is calm and a single focus of attention is achieved- not when it is engaged in a maximum effort on multiple axes. if only for a few seconds. It is suggestive we build a mind based on what we DO with it and achieve excellence when we can bring our most finely honed ( learning reinforced) tools to bear without distraction. What athletes call the "zone".
Just my $0.03
MongoTheGeek
Mar 20, 2004, 11:28 AM
It is also interesting that there is increasing evidence from functional PET scans that we do our best when the mind is calm and a single focus of attention is achieved- not when it is engaged in a maximum effort on multiple axes. if only for a few seconds. It is suggestive we build a mind based on what we DO with it and achieve excellence when we can bring our most finely honed ( learning reinforced) tools to bear without distraction. What athletes call the "zone".
Just my $0.03
I know about the zone. One of the reasons I used to kick butt on tests. Once I rushed into an hour long chem test 15 minutes late. I took the test in the next 15 and then left with a perfect score. The teacher made the next that much harder and a lot of the class didn't finish. I was in the zone though. I was rushed and almost panicked but there was a supreme focus that was incredible.
bousozoku
Mar 20, 2004, 12:50 PM
Will people PLEASE resist the need to come on here bragging about their
(probably made up) IQs.
Wasn't one of the answers to that Mickey Mouse IQ test that old Socrates line about the smart cookies knowing that they know nothing?
Thanx :)
I would never brag that my I.Q. is equal to my shoe size. Of course, it all depends on where you are. It could be 8.5 or 8.0 or 42.0 or 26.5. :D
You might as well have fun. Everyone else is.
JesseJames
Mar 20, 2004, 02:08 PM
The extent of my formal education in the United States public education system allows me to proudly do this:
http://www.tomandjerryonline.com/sounds/c-a-t.wav
gwuMACaddict
Mar 20, 2004, 03:18 PM
good grief... i thought this thread dies ages ago... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
we already know...
1. you are already in mensa
or
2. you had a bad day when you took the test and SHOULD be in mensa
guess what?
NOBODY CARES :mad: :mad: :mad:
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