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[Mr. Anderson]

So I'm going to see this tonight - and I heard it actually got some pretty decent reviews.

Anyone else going?

D

[patrick0brien]

-Mr. Anderson

Dude. I'd go just to see that 6-foot blond walk around naked.

:D

[shadowfax]

hmmmm, i might try to get a ticket for this evening. if not, i'll probably go tomorrow. gotta hang out with a friend today who can't really go to it, but i'm all alone tomorrow, heh.

[jayscheuerle]

Originally posted by patrick0brien
-Mr. Anderson

Dude. I'd go just to see that 6-foot blond walk around naked.

:D

Did Arnold dye his hair?

:p

[WinterMute]

Is that out already? Doesn't seem too long ago that T2 was around, still, I hope Arnie is back in killer robot mode, I saw one too many "caring" movies from him in the 90's, and haven't bothered since.

I'll probably catch it when it arrives over here though.

[strider42]

Originally posted by WinterMute
Is that out already? Doesn't seem too long ago that T2 was around

T2 was more than ten years ago. It was so long ago that Gun's & roses wrote the "you could be mine" song for the soundtrack. that was their last album of any note. T3 had some sneak previews in some places tonight, and i think opens for full release on thursday.

[evoluzione]

oh i'm defo gonna see this one, i wanna watch the first two movies again before i go though. T2 is one of my all time favourite movies, i think.

Mr. A ... let us know what you think of it yeah???

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by strider42
T2 was more than ten years ago. It was so long ago that Gun's & roses wrote the "you could be mine" song for the soundtrack. that was their last album of any note. T3 had some sneak previews in some places tonight, and i think opens for full release on thursday.


yeah what a great song, and album too...

i think it's actually on general release as of today

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by evoluzione

Mr. A ... let us know what you think of it yeah???

Yeah, I'll post my thoughts when I get back to the office later tonight - going right after work down in Georgetown.

Looking forward to it....:D

And evo - I put the pics in the mail yesterday - you'll get them soon ;)

D

[evildead]

Originally posted by strider42
T2 was more than ten years ago. It was so long ago that Gun's & roses wrote the "you could be mine" song for the soundtrack. that was their last album of any note. T3 had some sneak previews in some places tonight, and i think opens for full release on thursday.


12 years to be exact

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Yeah, I'll post my thoughts when I get back to the office later tonight - going right after work down in Georgetown.

Looking forward to it....:D

And evo - I put the pics in the mail yesterday - you'll get them soon ;)

D

sweet, thanks D

[Foxer]

I was planning on going to see it tonight anyway, but when I read that the Terminatrix appears in the "buff," I made sure to gt those tickets online. If my wife complains, I'll remind her that she was treated to naked Robert Patrick in T2.

I only hope there are several scenes with robots. Full report later.

[iGav]

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
Did Arnold dye his hair?

:p

:p :p :p

that's classic... ;) :p :p

[VIREBEL661]

Originally posted by Foxer
I was planning on going to see it tonight anyway, but when I read that the Terminatrix appears in the "buff," I made sure to gt those tickets online. If my wife complains, I'll remind her that she was treated to naked Robert Patrick in T2.

I only hope there are several scenes with robots. Full report later.

What about naked ARNOLD in T1??? Great scene with Bill Paxton... Hopefully the new one is as dark as the first two - I'm afraid it'll be watered down with special effects without a strong story... I never go to movies anyways - prolly forget about it and end up buying the DVD...

[Mr. Anderson]

I did not realize that there would be naked terminators....nice :D

Although I saw a picture in People magazine of Arnold at a beach - not Mr. Universe. He won't be naked this time around which I guess is for the best.....

D

[iGav]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
I did not realize that there would be naked terminators....nice :D

Although I saw a picture in People magazine of Arnold at a beach - not Mr. Universe. He won't be naked this time around which I guess is for the best.....

D

he's lost alot of his muscle tone and bulk... unlike Lou ferrigno who has just gotten bigger, and bigger and bigger.... :eek: :p :p

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by iGAV
he's lost alot of his muscle tone and bulk... unlike Lou ferrigno who has just gotten bigger, and bigger and bigger.... :eek: :p :p

You have any recent pics to compare - that would be quite funny....

I haven't seen Ferrigno, well, probably since he was the Hulk....

D

[dornball]

remember the T-1000.......liquid metal.

that was robert patrick
http://www.robert-patrick.com/

-dornball

[Durandal7]

To put the speculation to rest, yes Ah-nold does walk around nude some. Didn't look bad for someone his age.

T3 was great, a worthy installment in the series. Great action scenes and a good plot. The guy who plays John Conner delivered a good performance. The Terminators were entertaining as always. The ending was pretty clever and ties up the movie nicely while leaving you hoping there will be another movie.

[shadowfax]

it was indeed very good. not the best piece of drama, but as for it's style and content, it was exactly what i expected. trails of destruction, naked, hot, emotionless chick, trails of destruction, hot, emotionless chick in red leather and lexus sports car, trails of destruction, hot, emotionless chick making her breasts bigger at will, trails of destruction.... yeah. it was fun. minimal sincere introspection, though as always some about the whole nature of technology and its potential to turn on us... perfectly decent acting, and lots of action. and lots of action.

[Mr. Anderson]

It was good - but the ending was a bit lame.

I'd give it matinee worthy, but not full price.

It was interesting to see them sew up the whole story nicely. It is a must see for anyone who liked the other two :D

D

[iGav]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
You have any recent pics to compare - that would be quite funny....

I haven't seen Ferrigno, well, probably since he was the Hulk....

D

http://www.louferrigno.com/

Not that I hang around those kind of sites or anything... but he's huge, bigger than when he was the Hulk.... :eek: :eek:

He was on a TV show not long ago, arm wrestling this mere mortal, even the size of the guys hands are huge... like totally covered this other guys hands!!

He's huge... Arnie looks like pencil in comparison... :eek: :p :p

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by iGAV
http://www.louferrigno.com/

Not that I hang around those kind of sites or anything...

suuuuuuure you don't....;) :p :D

[iGav]

Originally posted by WinterMute
suuuuuuure you don't....;) :p :D

:p :p :p

it makes me feel ashamed as I scoff a Big Mac and wash it down with a Chocolate Shake....heh-heh :eek: :p :p

[Gus]

I thought it was fantastic! Lately, I have to judge a good movie by whether or not I realize how long I'm in the theatre, but this went by real fast! For what this movie is trying/supposed to be, it was great.

Regards,
Gus

[the_wallcrawler]

i thought it was rather weak. T2 was approx. 1000000000000000000 times better.

[shadowfax]

i appreciate hyperbole, but could you explain why it was so weak? most of the characters seem pretty strong :p

[voicegy]

T3 is an excellent and worthy successor to the T series. Going in, I was prepared to be disappointed (great...uber chick from space splatters people...yawn) and thought I'd be giving the T series a fond farewell.

The humor worked, the wit worked, the action blew away Matrix Reloaded, and the ending was a royal twist.

I went into this film not sure about T3...I left not being able to wait for T4. 3 and a half stars out of 4...it's THE summer movie.:D

[the_wallcrawler]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
i appreciate hyperbole, but could you explain why it was so weak? most of the characters seem pretty strong :p

john conner seemed to be less tough than he was as a 12 year old kid in T2.

the claire daines character just seemed to be plopped into the movie for almost no reason at all. i understand the "future" ramifications of what she is supposed to do, but it does not fit well with her character.

and then there was the line, "you remind me of my mother." why??? because she shot a gun??? weak. and disturbing.

i wish the movie would have kept the darker tones of the first two. it seemed campy at times. the elton john sunglasses? sure it was kind of funny, but its the freakin' terminator!

and the emotional connection between john and the terminator was just not there as it was in T2. i didnt really care if the terminator died or not, in T2, the emotional connection was there.

im sure there was more that bothered me but that is all i can think of right now. but having said all that, there were some nice parts. the chase scene with the bulldozer thing was pretty cool. they destroyed a ton of stuff! the big brawl between ah-nold and the female terminator (i refuse to call her the "terminatrix". again. weak.) was also very cool. they hit each other with such force. you could almost feel it.

i didn't really have alot of expectations for the film going in and it delivered about what i expected.

best movie of the summer thus far is still X2.

[jbomber]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
it was indeed very good. not the best piece of drama, but as for it's style and content, it was exactly what i expected. trails of destruction, naked, hot, emotionless chick, trails of destruction, hot, emotionless chick in red leather and lexus sports car, trails of destruction, hot, emotionless chick making her breasts bigger at will, trails of destruction.... yeah. it was fun. minimal sincere introspection, though as always some about the whole nature of technology and its potential to turn on us... perfectly decent acting, and lots of action. and lots of action.


i think you forgot to tell everyonre about hot emotionless chick. :D

all-in-all, it was a decent movie. if you went in expecting brilliant social commentary or something, it's your own damn fault for being disappointed. it's a Terminator Movie. It definitely delivered on the fighting and explosions, etc. which is really what the terminator franchise is all about.

[Foxer]

It was another terminator movie. I enjoyed it, the TX was hot, good action.

Problems:

I could never believe that "John Conner" was supposed to be the same guy was Edward Furlong from T2. He played it so differently. I kept thinking he was supposed to be Dr. Bashir from Deep Space 9. Any idea why they didn't get Furlong this time?

It seemed that almost everyline was an attempt at some catchy one-liner. A few of them are OK, but don't sacrifice the script. Unless Terminators are programmed to be witty.

Good:
I liked T2, but I always thought that in many ways it was a total remake of the original. Too many recreations of scenes from the first film, not enough originality. T3, on the other hand, was semi-original.

Good explanation of how the whole SkyNet thing comes about.

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Foxer
I could never believe that "John Conner" was supposed to be the same guy was Edward Furlong from T2. He played it so differently. Any idea why they didn't get Furlong this time?


Supposedly he's in need of a little rehab

Rumors of drug problems continue to dog troubled young actor Edward Furlong, who has allegedly re-entered a detox facility, for the second time in a year. According to the New York Post's Page Six, Furlong wanted one last hurrah before going back to dry out. The gaunt 23-year-old was allegedly rushed to the ER last month after friends found him unconscious in a pool of vomit; shortly after being admitted, he reportedly received a visit from pals who smuggled drugs to his hospital bedside.

That and getting getting arrested twice in one night back in 2001 - couldn't find anything more recent...

D

[Foxer]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Supposedly he's in need of a little rehab

Rumors of drug problems continue to dog troubled young actor Edward Furlong, who has allegedly re-entered a detox facility, for the second time in a year. According to the New York Post's Page Six, Furlong wanted one last hurrah before going back to dry out. The gaunt 23-year-old was allegedly rushed to the ER last month after friends found him unconscious in a pool of vomit; shortly after being admitted, he reportedly received a visit from pals who smuggled drugs to his hospital bedside.

That and getting getting arrested twice in one night back in 2001 - couldn't find anything more recent...

D

Those would be good reasons.

[tpjunkie]

What about Linda Hamilton? I assume she didn't want to do the movie as they could have easily written her into it. I haven't seen her in anything else recently, I'm not sure why she would turn down something like T3

[bcsimac]

Movies are cool, but I can't afford to go to movie theaters. I will just wait until this movie comes to cable tv like all the great classics do. Recently they had Rambo on WGN.....eventually T3 will be the same....able to be watched on cable on WGN, TBS, TNT, or the like. I already loved watching all the star trek movies on TNT on new years eve. I know, I know.....I am really cheap!

[shadowfax]

BCSiMac, do you have a discount theater around where you live? i like to go to them occasionally. it's $1.50 for a ticket, anytime. who could beat that? hell it's cheaper than a rental, if you go alone.

[tpjunkie]

I thought that this was a little funny:
(http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/07/sprj.cas03.cameron.terminator.ap/index.html)

Cameron shrugs off "Terminator 3" questions, saying that like "Alien" director Scott, he has been in the position before where another filmmaker tinkered with his creation. The opening of "Alien 3," directed by David Fincher, derailed the happy ending of "Aliens" by killing off characters Cameron had invented.

"There's nothing they can do to me on 'Terminator 3,' " Cameron said, "that's going to be as outrageous as that."

Unless you count killing off Sarah Connor :p

[jbomber]

Originally posted by Foxer
It was another terminator movie. I enjoyed it, the TX was hot, good action.

Problems:

I could never believe that "John Conner" was supposed to be the same guy was Edward Furlong from T2. He played it so differently. I kept thinking he was supposed to be Dr. Bashir from Deep Space 9. Any idea why they didn't get Furlong this time?

i think Eddie's delivering most of his lines to A A members these days..... I actually preferred this guy. His portrayal of a weary John Connor, running from fate was pretty damn good.

It seemed that almost everyline was an attempt at some catchy one-liner. A few of them are OK, but don't sacrifice the script. Unless Terminators are programmed to be witty.

Ever seen Eraser? it's the exact same thing. An endless string of empty one-liners. After Arnold hit it big with the first few one liners in his career, the scripts have been tailored to try and repeat that kind of thing. Too bad it always comes off as forced.


Good:
I liked T2, but I always thought that in many ways it was a total remake of the original. Too many recreations of scenes from the first film, not enough originality. T3, on the other hand, was semi-original.

Good explanation of how the whole SkyNet thing comes about.
Yeah. I appreciated the fact that they took an extra 15 minutes to write a script this time. :D All-in-all it was a good flick. not going to win an oscar or anything, but decent summer fare.

[jbomber]

Originally posted by bcsimac
Movies are cool, but I can't afford to go to movie theaters. I will just wait until this movie comes to cable tv like all the great classics do. Recently they had Rambo on WGN.....eventually T3 will be the same....able to be watched on cable on WGN, TBS, TNT, or the like. I already loved watching all the star trek movies on TNT on new years eve. I know, I know.....I am really cheap!


TBS, eh?

You must really like watching "The Beastmaster" :D

[Das]

I thought the movie did an admirable job at following up the series. I felt this one to be lighter than T2, with more inside jokes. The main problem I had with it was the ending. It sorta fizzled. When you have build up like this movie had with one stunt out performing the other, you better end it with one heck of a climax.

Loved the coffin part, very Gungrave anime style and the crane was awesome.

[jbomber]

Originally posted by Das
I thought the movie did an admirable job at following up the series. I felt this one to be lighter than T2, with more inside jokes. The main problem I had with it was the ending. It sorta fizzled. When you have build up like this movie had with one stunt out performing the other, you better end it with one heck of a climax.

It was like that commercial - "This Summer, everything gets BLOW'D UP!"

[scem0]

It seemed that almost everyline was an attempt at some catchy one-liner. A few of them are OK, but don't sacrifice the script. Unless Terminators are programmed to be witty.

Ever seen Eraser? it's the exact same thing. An endless string of empty one-liners. After Arnold hit it big with the first few one liners in his career, the scripts have been tailored to try and repeat that kind of thing. Too bad it always comes off as forced.

That is a bad fad in movies nowdays - the foremost movie that comes to mind is die another day...... (read this... ;)). I hope this is a short lived fad because it is corny and annoying.

Still haven't seen T3, I think I'll d/l it. Not my type of movie, I had action movies that are gun-centric (is there a word for that?).

scem0

[Das]

Originally posted by jbomber
It was like that commercial - "This Summer, everything gets BLOW'D UP!"

Oh yah, that was the trailer for The Hours wasn't it?

[jbomber]

Originally posted by Das
Oh yah, that was the trailer for The Hours wasn't it?

LOL:D

I'd have paid double to have seen that version.

[P-Worm]

Originally posted by the_wallcrawler
john conner seemed to be less tough than he was as a 12 year old kid in T2.

the claire daines character just seemed to be plopped into the movie for almost no reason at all. i understand the "future" ramifications of what she is supposed to do, but it does not fit well with her character.

and then there was the line, "you remind me of my mother." why??? because she shot a gun??? weak. and disturbing.

i wish the movie would have kept the darker tones of the first two. it seemed campy at times. the elton john sunglasses? sure it was kind of funny, but its the freakin' terminator!

and the emotional connection between john and the terminator was just not there as it was in T2. i didnt really care if the terminator died or not, in T2, the emotional connection was there.

im sure there was more that bothered me but that is all i can think of right now. but having said all that, there were some nice parts. the chase scene with the bulldozer thing was pretty cool. they destroyed a ton of stuff! the big brawl between ah-nold and the female terminator (i refuse to call her the "terminatrix". again. weak.) was also very cool. they hit each other with such force. you could almost feel it.

i didn't really have alot of expectations for the film going in and it delivered about what i expected.

best movie of the summer thus far is still X2.

To me it just seems that you wanted this movie to suck, which is fine. In my case, I loved this movie and personally liked the ending. The humor was very welcome after seeing the Matrix: Reloaded (WAY too serious).

Just my thoughts...

P-Worm

[tpjunkie]

P-Worm, You're saying the Matrix Reloaded was way to serious? Every five minutes there was (at least) a one liner, and there was some very tongue in cheek humor ("It's always about me, me, me...."-"Me too")

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by iGAV
:p :p :p

it makes me feel ashamed as I scoff a Big Mac and wash it down with a Chocolate Shake....heh-heh :eek: :p :p

Not to be picky but Scoff is something Lou Ferrigno would do at a burger it has nothing to do with eating it.

scoff1 (sk?f, skôf)_Pronunciation Key

v. scoffed, scoff·ing, scoffs
v. tr.

To mock at or treat with derision.


v. intr.

To show or express derision or scorn.


n.

An expression of derision or scorn.


[Middle English scoffen, from scof, mockery, probably of Scandinavian origin; akin to Danish skof, jest, teasing.]scoff?er n.
scoff?ing·ly adv.

Oh, and by the way I though the movie kicked some serious #*%. It was right in line with a Terminator and was most excellent exactly what I needed. I can now forget about Matrix Reloaded and the slight disappointment I had even though I know the good stuff is coming in a few months. T3 made Reloaded look like an episode of Barney.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by MacBandit
Not to be picky but Scoff is something Lou Ferrigno would do at a burger it has nothing to do with eating it.
i think we all knew he meant scarf, a very common, easily guessable word from the context. i think you in fact were being picky, as, seriously, it's not like you, or many others at all around here, bother to use the most precise, accurate language. i am sure it was just a typo or a minor word concept confusion. but here's the definition, in case you wanted to check:scarf(3)
Pronunciation: skärf

tr.v. Slang scarfed, scarf·ing, scarfs
To eat or drink voraciously; devour: “Americans scarf down 50 million hot dogs on an average summer day” (George F. Will).

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
i think we all knew he meant scarf, a very common, easily guessable word from the context. i think you in fact were being picky, as, seriously, it's not like you, or many others at all around here, bother to use the most precise, accurate language. i am sure it was just a typo or a minor word concept confusion. but here's the definition, in case you wanted to check:

No I wasn't really trying to be picky but it was so obviously the wrong word and no I couldn't think of the word he was meaning to use as I don't think I have used that word in over 10 years.

So in the words of Cartman screw you guys I'm going home.:p ;)

[djwoolf]

everyone keeps talking about arnold naked, but nobody remembers that the had open-heart surgery a few years ago. Either he had a really good doctor or his upper chest was edited in post-production.
Also, the writers seemed to have set up the franchise to center around John alot more. In the last two the terminator was the central figure to the plot. However in this one the plot totally revolved around John. I thought this device sets up numerous sequels for the battle of Humans vs SkyNet. Do you all think the next movie (if there is going to be one) should be titled "Terminator" or something else?

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by MacBandit
So in the words of Cartman screw you guys I'm going home.:p ;) haha, nice comeback.

did you want to relate that to macs? ;)

[the_wallcrawler]

Originally posted by P-Worm
To me it just seems that you wanted this movie to suck, which is fine. In my case, I loved this movie and personally liked the ending. The humor was very welcome after seeing the Matrix: Reloaded (WAY too serious).

Just my thoughts...

P-Worm

no i didnt WANT it to suck, but unfortunatly it DID.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by the_wallcrawler
no i didnt WANT it to suck, but unfortunatly it DID. well, well, i am the final word, not you, and it did NOT suck. or do you wanna put it to a vote?

or how about you grow some more brain cells and speak in terms of opinion. i respect your opinion, and the fact that you defended it, and i wasn't going to say anything really. just disagree. i appreciate argument, but this statement just sucks--you're not making a defense, you're just negating, and you're trying to make your own opinions into fact somehow. that's gonna be a neiner, red-six-three...

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
haha, nice comeback.

did you want to relate that to macs? ;)

No really reread my post about spam. It doesn't have to relate to macs just technology. Also I have rethought it and I think useless threads are okay as long as they don't exceed a certain % of thoughtless one-liners.

Oh, and by the way.

Terminator 3 ROCKED!!!!

[bcsimac]

Not that I know of! The last time I went to a movie theater was when Return of the Titans was on and I took my fiancee with me. It cost me like $40 bucks for the whole thing. I don't have $40 bucks to waste on movie theaters when I can wait about 10 years and the movie will be on cable tv for practically nothing...cable comes with my rent by the way.

Originally posted by Shadowfax
BCSiMac, do you have a discount theater around where you live? i like to go to them occasionally. it's $1.50 for a ticket, anytime. who could beat that? hell it's cheaper than a rental, if you go alone.

[the_wallcrawler]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
well, well, i am the final word, not you, and it did NOT suck.....(insert hypocritical paragraph here.)

how is this sentence any different from what i wrote? this entire thread is opinion. and my opinion was that is was not good.

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by the_wallcrawler
how is this sentence any different from what i wrote? this entire thread is opinion. and my opinion was that is was not good. ahhhh, sorry, you didn't catch the sarcasm in that. it was a joke. i know it's just my opinion. and hence, it wasn't a hypocritical paragraph.

gosh, some people just don't sense the delicacies of language :p
you're missing out, "brah."

[the_wallcrawler]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
ahhhh, sorry, you didn't catch the sarcasm in that. it was a joke. i know it's just my opinion. and hence, it wasn't a hypocritical paragraph.

gosh, some people just don't sense the delicacies of language :p
you're missing out, "brah."

and how do you know what kind of tone i was "speaking" with in my post?

brah?

[shadowfax]

Originally posted by the_wallcrawler
and how do you know what kind of tone i was "speaking" with in my post?

brah? i figured you would be mad at P-Worm. plus you get taken literally when you haven't been around, bro ;)

[the_wallcrawler]

Originally posted by Shadowfax
i figured you would be mad at P-Worm. plus you get taken literally when you haven't been around, bro ;)

i wasnt mad at p-worm, he just made an assumption and we all know......blah blah. how could i be mad? its a freakin movie!! a really crappy one at that!! ;)

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by the_wallcrawler
i wasnt mad at p-worm, he just made an assumption and we all know......blah blah. how could i be mad? its a freakin movie!! a really crappy one at that!! ;)

I don't think you saw the same movie we did. Maybe you went and saw Legally Blonde 2 on accident. Are you sure you saw Arnold in it?

[GeneR]

Maybe it wasn't as good as the first two, however, it was worth the matinee price I paid for it.

Resolving the philosophical issues of free will/ self-determinism verses destiny and fate, was a bit unfortunately in my opinion. It made the movie lose a layer of complexity which Cameron seemed to really understand in the first two.

Terminatrix?
Yeah, she was cool. Liked the in-the-buff scenes. However, the dead-panned, understated humor of the Robert Patrick T-1000 and even the original performance of Arnie in the first one seemed to be missing in this film. She was good, however a bit more deadpanned irony would have made it more humorous.

JOHN CONNOR and Co. (Spoilers)
Well, that was an interesting idea worth developing. I liked the idea that they created about his lieutenants. That was a good touch.

The bunker at the end was a bit sad. To know that the bombs would be coming down and that he would be able to survive because he was in the throne of leadership already was really a smart idea. How else would Connor be able to rally the troops unless he was able to create an underground network using an existing communication system that was working but not completely computer dependent? A smart choice. Thirty or forty year old technology would still work well enough to do the job.

RE: Bullets and Terminators
Well, you'd think by this time these guys would figure out that bullets don't work on Terminators, so why even try? I know it makes for good battle scenes, but isn't it better if they come up with something a bit better, like say, a hand-held nuclear accelerator bazooka or a fission rocket or bullet or something that would stop the Terminators?

Hmmm. Who knows?

RE: Sequels
Yep, well, it certainly set us up for one didn't it? If Arnie doesn't do well in this revived franchise I guess he'll start seriously considering the Governor's office of California.