The villain thread

[BaghdadBob]

Movies, TV shows, video games, books, whatever....flash cartoons maybe?

Who's your favorite (most hated) villain in any medium?

Off the top of my head...

1) Sephiroth from Final Fantasy VII...most anyone who's played that game through knows what I'm talking about. I would have killed hime with my own hands... He was a bad, bad man. Of course, that was one of the main factors that made FF VII so great, a true hatred of the antagonist...when you're playing an eighty hour game it's good to actually want to get to the end and take out your foe...

2) The Emperor in Return of the Jedi...also a bad, bad man...I cannot think of an actor ever more convincingly portray evil without just seeming insane, or just evilly disturbed (like Kevin Spacey in Seven, also excellent).

3) Celesta from the Coldfire trilogy. Probably mostly from the fact that the Coldfire trilogy (Black Sun Rising, When True Night Falls, and The Crown of Shadows) is just so damn well written. But for those who aren't hip, Celesta is an immortal demon-god born of the human emotion of Sadism. He belongs to a race called the Iezu who are all immortal and born of human emotions and all of whom have a symbiotic relationship with humans. They also have an incredible power of illusion. The way Friedman (author) writes with Celesta is ingenious. So is the whole trilogy, IMO, and the protagonists are amazingly compelling too...go read it!

Hope this thread takes off, I know we all like a good villain...

What are yer'all's faves?

[pEZ]

One of my long-time faves is the villain in Patriot Games. I can't remember his name, but that boat chase was killer :)

[voicegy]

Kahn, in the film Star Trek, The Wrath of Kahn. What a display of intelligence, swarthy self-assuredness and power, with great vocal delivery.

[Kwyjibo]

mine is obviously represented by my tar

[Durandal7]

Baron Vladimir Harkonnen

[MacManDan]

Dr. Robotnik from Sonic the Hedgehog. No matter how many Sonic games you'd play .. he'd always just run away and find a bigger, badder machine to try to take out the world. I've finished countless Sonic games in the hopes that the final end animation would involve someone (ie Sonic himself) wiping Robotnik's dead body off the screen. :mad: :mad:

[Royal Pineapple]

Darth Vader, and Shredder from tenage mutant ninja turtles:D
shreddder was a joke but we all loved him

[Foxer]

Darth Vader. No question. Dr. Evil is a good runner-up. I don't know anything about the comic books, but Lex Luthor as played by Gene Hackman was a pleasure to watch.

[Abstract]

Darth Vader, Fat Bastard, Yosemite Sam, George W. Bush, Fagin and Bill Sykes (from Oliver Twist) and.... Hitler.

Haha, gotta love that Hitler villain. Soooo evil. ;)

[TEG]

Kahn from Star Trek II
Javert from Les Miserables
Palpitine (Emperor and Chancellor) from Star Wars
Bowser from the Super Mario Games
Andross from Star Fox
Bill Gates.... Duh!
And the Bald Git from The World is not Enough (007)

TEG

[vollspacken]

- Batlin from Ultima 7I & &II
- Agent Smith (freelance badass...)
- Bill Gates
- Nihil Baxter

[Flowbee]

Frank Booth (as played by Dennis Hopper) in "Blue Velvet."

[Roger1]

"Hopper" from "a Bugs Life"
The "Borg" from "Star Trek"
"The Joker" in "Batman: the Movie"

[janey]

draco and lucius malfoy, severus snape and lord voldemort, all from harry potter

[scem0]

Jade Fox (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)

scem0

[Kwyjibo]

Originally posted by übergeek
severus snape

isn't he technically a good guy, we even know why he dislikes harry now...and its perfectly justified , hes never done anything bad in any of the books i've read

[jbomber]

remember Contact with Jodie Foster?

Tom Skerrit's character was just the biggest ***hole. Most hated villain cuz EVERYONE knows a slimy opportunistic bastard like him. So glad when he finally got his.....

[Durandal7]

Let's not forget Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector.

Mmmmmm, fava beans.

[jbomber]

old one->
Cigarette Smoking Man from back when the X-files was cool

[Abstract]

No no no!! I could relate to Hannibal Lecter. ;)

Kim Bauer from the show 24. She's not evil, but she always ****s things up and causes trouble for everybody. :) But those tight shirts........mmmmmm

[jbomber]

Originally posted by Abstract
No no no!! I could relate to Hannibal Lecter. ;)

Kim Bauer from the show 24. She's not evil, but she always ****s things up and causes trouble for everybody. :) But those tight shirts........mmmmmm

LOL

that's funny as hell. Yeah. she's the most helpless, hapless, ditzy girl on TV. But again, the tight shirts.....mmmmm...

[QCassidy352]

Vader and Lecter, of course. :)

[Mike Teezie]

Darth Maul - Star Wars
Darth Vader - Star Wars
The Emporer - Star Wars
Lord Voldemort - Harry Potter
The Joker - Batman 1
The Nazgul/Ring Wraiths - LOTR
Hainnibal Lector

I love identifying with the villains of a story. Very cool thread.

[Kwyjibo]

hmm The joker? he never seemed that scary to me I guess because he was so human

From the original jurassic park movie, the raptors....those guys would still scare me especially that scene in the kitchen

[iGav]

Scaramanga.... cos' he had 3 nipples and that automatically makes you the no 1: villian of all!! :p

[wdlove]

I vote for Hainnibal Lector and Darth Vader!

[dynamicd]

I'd have to say Christopher Walken in Wayne's World 2. That guy was one SOB.

[irmongoose]

Jack Torrance (Jack Nicholson) in The Shining. No other villain (or good guy for that matter) has creeped me out like this guy ever. Maybe the ghost in the original Japanese version of The Ring.... but that's about it.

http://www.drummerman.net/shining/johnny.jpg



irmongoose

[Abstract]

Sideshow Bob. :) The hair, the smugness, the.....evilness.

Oh, and Principle Skinner. Willy The Groundskeeper: "Ye used me, Skinna. Ye used me!!!" :D

[WinterMute]

Gary Oldman in Leon, irredemable and unashamedly corrupt.

Ben Kingsley in Big Sexy Beast. Nasty.

Vinnie Jones in Lock stock and two smoking barrels, cos you know he'd do that for real.

[BaghdadBob]

Jack Nicholson in The Shining -- good call! Very, very creepy. Love Kahn, havn't seen that movie in so long.

But what about Vader? I'm actually kinda surprised to see Vader listed so much, probably because due to his soft pink underside I just can't hate him. He is a protagonist in a "man vs. himself" subplot of the Star Wars saga -- to me, the Emperor is the real villain, and a total classic. Talk about embodying malignant, sadistic, malicious and vile. Such a fine performance.

How about Kurt Warner? Man, that guy gives me the creeps...

[jbomber]

Originally posted by BaghdadBob
Jack Nicholson in The Shining -- good call! Very, very creepy. Love Kahn, havn't seen that movie in so long.

But what about Vader? I'm actually kinda surprised to see Vader listed so much, probably because due to his soft pink underside I just can't hate him. He is a protagonist in a "man vs. himself" subplot of the Star Wars saga -- to me, the Emperor is the real villain, and a total classic. Talk about embodying malignant, sadistic, malicious and vile. Such a fine performance.

How about Kurt Warner? Man, that guy gives me the creeps...

How about Kurt Warner's wife? That guy scares me. :D

[BaghdadBob]

:D BWUAHAHAAHAH!!!!!

[Waluigi]

Here is my all time list from everything:

Lord Voldermort (Harry Potter)
Ludwig Borga (WWF)
Kenneth Lay (Enron)
Shredder (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)
M.Bison (Street Fighter)
Osama Bin Ladin (Al Quedia)
Scott Blum (Buymusic.com)
Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz)
Norman Bates (Psycho)
John Rockefeller (richest man in the world at one point)
David Westerfield (horrible child molester and killer)
John Geoghan (Priest who molested 150 kids, was killed in jail)

Thats all for me....for now!

--Waluigi

[MOFS]

Originally posted by Mike Teezie
Darth Maul - Star Wars
Darth Vader - Star Wars
The Emporer - Star Wars
Lord Voldemort - Harry Potter
The Joker - Batman 1
The Nazgul/Ring Wraiths - LOTR
Hainnibal Lector

I love identifying with the villains of a story. Very cool thread.

Darth Maul? Hmm! From what I remember of the Phantom Menace, all he did that was remotely evil was try and kill the two Jedis! He didn't actually say anything, and he didn't even have a menacing look - just that stupid grin! The only difference between him and the stromtroopers was that he was a Sith and didn't wear a white suit! The Nazgul were scarey because there was a sense of dread about them when they arrived, whereas with Darth Maul, you just got the feeling that he was some random mercenary, just like any character who shoots at the goodie in a western!

I think the thing that makes the Joker, Hannibal Lector and Darth Vader so evil is that it they seem to have a grudge against their respective foes! They all mock their enemies, toy with them until they are on the point of a breakdown, but then fall at the last hurdle!

Btw; today the Wicked Witch of the East (West?) and Nurse Ratched (from One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest) were voted as the scariest villainesses, according to a recent British pol. Discuss!

[sketchy]

Scorpius - from Farscape
Bester - from B5
Mordred - B5

wow -- I'm a nerd....

sketchy

[BaghdadBob]

I'm still surprised so many people pick Darth Vader over the Emperor...I mean, the emperor was way more evil than Darth...I wouldn't even call Darth evil, the Emperor was the malignant force behind it all....but anyway.....

Going back to Sephiroth, after getting mad at the stupid Kingdom Hearts game too many times (I wouldn't have bought it if not for the kids) and forgetting where I was in FFX because I put it down for like six months, I am now playing through FFVII again, and being reminded of all the ways in which it was a masterpiece, including, of course, the villain, Sephiroth. Sephiroth is so awesomely hatable. Talk about toying with your foe, he was real bad.

If you play only one Final Fantasy game in your life, make it worthwile -- make it VII.

[Marble]

Billy Bob Thornton. Period.

[job]

Not really a villain, but for most ******** up cast, I'd choose everyone from Clockwork Orange. What a messed up movie...

[Thanatoast]

I'm putting my vote in for the Joker as the best villian ever.

Here's a guy who doesn't commit crimes because he wants money or fame. He does it for the laughs.

And taunting Batman with his own helplessness is the most fun for Joker. (think death of Robin)

He loves having a nemisis to poke and prod at. It's like some giant twisted game of psychological chess. He's a very intelligent, very sadistic psychopath.

[jadariv]

A little bit of thinking about this led me to remember two characters that affected me when I watched them. Of course, both are from when I was fairly young

1. Evil - Time Bandits

2. General Woundwart - Watership Down

Want a scary damn cartoon. Watership Down is it.

[MacBandit]

My all time favorite for any medium has to be Dracula. He's so evil but so cool at the same time.