View Full Version : How much money do you earn?
hvfsl
Jul 18, 2003, 08:27 AM
I thought I would start a thread where people can boast about how much money they earn. Since there seems to be a lot of threads that are about silly things (e.g. the Tardis thread http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=32543).
Well I will start off, I am at Uni and don't have a full time job, although I build and repair PCs for people where a get about £2400 at year (about $3300). At the moment I just live off student loans.
jelloshotsrule
Jul 18, 2003, 08:32 AM
i could see this becoming a dong measuring competition.... :rolleyes:
i can't find the zero key to show how much i make.
yzeater
Jul 18, 2003, 08:33 AM
$16 per week! Plus a convertible and insurance and gas
WinterMute
Jul 18, 2003, 08:39 AM
More than all of you:D
I am a monetary god:D
Seriously, I'm Senior Lecturer in a UK Uni, I got degrees up my arse and I make just shy of £40K.
I think the tenured academic in the US makes a lot more than that, but the responsibility to publish is MUCH heavier.
I'm in line for doctorate in the next few years, that's where the serious sponds are in UK academia.
I used to clear serious money as a commercial engineer/producer, and I still do the odd gig for chump change (call it £150/hour)
Mr. Anderson
Jul 18, 2003, 08:41 AM
I have a real job - but you know what, I'm not going to post how much I make - it just doesn't seem appropriate.
I agree with j-lo on this one, there is always going to be someone who makes more than you, unless your Bill Gates, so I'll avoid the competition :D
D
caveman_uk
Jul 18, 2003, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by WinterMute
More than all of you:D
I am a monetary god:D
Seriously, I'm Senior Lecturer in a UK Uni, I got degrees up my arse and I make just shy of £40K.
About the same here. I work for a Biotech start-up as a medicinal chemist (that means I invent drugs :D )
britboy
Jul 18, 2003, 09:08 AM
I've always thought that there were two questions to be avoided at all costs. The first was 'Never ask a woman how old she is'. The second was, 'never ask a man how much he earns'.
Maybe that's just me.....but anyway, I'm a student. What I earn is enough to survive on. :)
bryanc
Jul 18, 2003, 10:01 AM
After 15 years of post-secondary education, earning multiple postgraduate degrees, and working as a postdoctoral fellow for a few years, I'm now making almost enough to live on (but not enough to support a family).
When I was working as a computer geek, I made gobs of cash, but I found it boring. So I went back to school and have studied the molecular basis of embryonic development since. I find it much more interesting, but I'm making about 1/10th what I was making 15 years ago.
I knew I'd be making a financial sacrifice to pursue my curiosity, but I didn't know how *much* of a sacrifice it would be (or how much more important money is when you don't have it). Something to consider if you're thinking about a career change. In retrospect, I think I ought to have stayed in computing, saved enough money to retire early, then pursued science as a hobby after I retired at 45.
Cheers
zarathustra
Jul 18, 2003, 10:12 AM
I make $1850000 a year.
:rolleyes:
What a stupid thread. Yet here I am posting something stupid. Go figure. It must be friday.;) :D
edesignuk
Jul 18, 2003, 10:16 AM
...not enough! :eek: :rolleyes: :D
eyelikeart
Jul 18, 2003, 10:17 AM
well...
I have a real job as well...I freelance...and I work on a bunch of projects that aren't making me any money just yet...
I'm declining to discuss my finances here.
Sorry, but I'm not very open about money with most people. I have to trust someone a lot to discuss that type of stuff. ;)
MrMacMan
Jul 18, 2003, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
i could see this becoming a dong measuring competition.... :rolleyes:
Oooo
Oooohhh. 20"!
:rolleyes:
I'm 15, I work 2 days a week at my doctors office making a database for something like $100/week. (I'm 15, I don't make alot of money)
caveman_uk
Jul 18, 2003, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by britboy
I've always thought that there were two questions to be avoided at all costs. The first was 'Never ask a woman how old she is'. The second was, 'never ask a man how much he earns'.
I've never really understood the reluctance to discuss earnings. I mean how else are you to find out if your employer is shafting you?
Veldek
Jul 18, 2003, 10:39 AM
I don't see the problem in telling someone how much money you earn. It's like some are ashamed of what they get (or what they don't?).
As I began to work less than a year ago, it's been important for me to figure out what a guy like me could earn, so I could tell what I'd like to have. I asked some of my fellow students who finished sometime before me and most of them had no problem in telling me their income.
So what is so bad about this question? I really want to understand.
By the way, I earn about $43,000 depending on the rate of exchange.
MrMacMan
Jul 18, 2003, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by caveman_uk
I've never really understood the reluctance to discuss earnings. I mean how else are you to find out if your employer is shafting you?
Look at the persons watch, or lack of watch.
:rolleyes:
What? It always works good.
britboy
Jul 18, 2003, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by caveman_uk
I've never really understood the reluctance to discuss earnings. I mean how else are you to find out if your employer is shafting you?
Perhaps by that slightly aching feeling when you sit down? :eek:
Comparing wages amounts to little more than seeing who can piss the furthest. Basically, it's pointless. If you think you're getting shafted, get a new job. If you're happy with what you have, why compare yourself to others when it's only going to make you resent that which you already have.
eyelikeart
Jul 18, 2003, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by caveman_uk
I've never really understood the reluctance to discuss earnings. I mean how else are you to find out if your employer is shafting you?
Well, with different economies in different cities & countries, u cannot.
For me, it's a privacy issue. Besides, in the U.S., WAY too much emphasis is placed on wealth. It's unfair to judge a person based on their earnings, which is why I'd guess many humble people don't discuss it.
evil
Jul 18, 2003, 10:49 AM
i dont mind discussing it because i make zero dollars.
where i live the govenrmnent isnt really too fond of letting me get a job.
im a us citizen living in canada for university.
Mr. Anderson
Jul 18, 2003, 10:53 AM
One of the biggest problems is that in the same company - especially with over 100 employees, there can be a huge disparity in the amount employees get payed. I'm not talking CEOs and such, but engineers, support staff, accountants, etc.
When you get hired you set you base salary, and that can be negotiated. If you're lucky you might get more than someone working at the same level as you.
It might surprise you to see what your coworkers make ;)
D
wdlove
Jul 18, 2003, 11:00 AM
In my case I worked for the Federal Government, more specifically the Veterans Administration. So my salary was of public record.
Now according to my wife, I earn $0.
peterjhill
Jul 18, 2003, 11:03 AM
"How much money do you earn?"
All of it
FriarTuck
Jul 18, 2003, 11:23 AM
Enough to pay the mortgage on a 3 bedroom 2 bath splitlevel in a nice subdivision of a stable suburb with a short commute via commuter train into downtown Chicago.
Enough to allow my wife to be a full-time mom.
Enough to have a minivan and a midsize sedan that are fully insured and start every time I turn the key (except when my kids leave the van doors open and the battery drains).
Enough to allow me to buy a few songs on iTunes without worrying about where I'm going to find the money.
Enough to pay a whole bunch of taxes.
Not enough to buy a dual processor G5 with a 23" cinema display.
jelloshotsrule
Jul 18, 2003, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by FriarTuck
Not enough to buy a dual processor G5 with a 23" cinema display.
surely you jest.....
the g5 and 23" ers (two at least) come just after feeding your kids and just before insurance on cars. ;)
WinterMute
Jul 18, 2003, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Look at the persons watch, or lack of watch.
:rolleyes:
What? It always works good.
Good call, my dad left me a Rolex Oyster perpetual dateadjust, its a beautiful watch and worth a bomb, I wore it to work one day and three people commented on what a nice fake it was:D
I'm just not the kind of bloke to wear a real Rolex I suppose... I'm going to sell it and buy a Rado Ceramica multi-function, now that's a watch.
Rower_CPU
Jul 18, 2003, 12:27 PM
Graduate student working full-time as a lab technician in San Diego = breaking even
Abstract
Jul 18, 2003, 12:42 PM
I just graduated......I don't have a job, but I'll be attending graduate school trying to attain a Medical Radiation Physics degree........in Australia.
I'm going to be a poor international student instead of a poor, Canadian student. :(
This thread....makes.....me..........So......DEPRESSED!!
*jumps off a bridge*
hvfsl
Jul 18, 2003, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by WinterMute
More than all of you:D
I am a monetary god:D
Seriously, I'm Senior Lecturer in a UK Uni, I got degrees up my arse and I make just shy of £40K.
I think the tenured academic in the US makes a lot more than that, but the responsibility to publish is MUCH heavier.
I'm in line for doctorate in the next few years, that's where the serious sponds are in UK academia.
I used to clear serious money as a commercial engineer/producer, and I still do the odd gig for chump change (call it £150/hour)
Which London Uni do you work at? I know people at most of the London Universities.
hvfsl
Jul 18, 2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by britboy
I've always thought that there were two questions to be avoided at all costs. The first was 'Never ask a woman how old she is'. The second was, 'never ask a man how much he earns'.
Thats was why I started the thread.
MacManDan
Jul 18, 2003, 01:05 PM
Strangely enough, I earn just as much per week at school as I do with my summer job, working 1/3 of the hours!
At school, I have a part-time job doing tech support for the MIT community (it's fun .. and lots of interesting people)
Here, I am a technician for a small company helping them do some internal work with their servers and workstations (although they like to call me their Intern, LoL) :D
I'll keep the amount of $ I earn to myself though. ;)
AppleMatt
Jul 18, 2003, 01:26 PM
I'm a student, so earn buggar all at the moment. I do make quite a lot on eBay though, which along with loans and phone calls to dad gets me through.
When I graduate I'll be a doctor, and contrary to popluar belief, we earn buggar all (in the UK). However I wouldn't post it, or discuss it except with family/v.close friends.
Even worse, the American 'market' is closing down for European doctors :( But as someone said, as long as I can put a G6/G7/whatever on my desk and food on my families plate, I'll be happy :)
AppleMatt
Lyle
Jul 18, 2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by hvfsl
I thought I would start a thread where people can boast about how much money they earn...I doubt that you're going to get any direct answers to the question ;) I suppose it's a cultural difference, but in the United States it's generally considered rude to ask someone how much money they make, or to brag to others about how much you make. (I don't mean that you're being rude by asking, I'm just explaining why you might not get much information).
One source that I've used are on-line salary surveys (such as those found at monster.com (http://www.monster.com) and similar web sites). The last time I was job-searching, I was able to use this information to negotiate a higher starting salary than the original offer by pointing out that the company's offer was lower than the average salary for my position. Obviously, these kinds of surveys only provide you with ballpark numbers, but they're a start.
3rdpath
Jul 18, 2003, 02:04 PM
"a man is rich in proportion to the things he can afford to let alone"...thoreau
life's too short to worry about money. ( as in, pursue it...)
DakotaGuy
Jul 18, 2003, 02:08 PM
I am a public school teacher...if you want to find out what I earn you just have to look in the local paper when the budget is printed and salaries are listed. It's not very good though...so no reason even saying what I make.
mactastic
Jul 18, 2003, 02:24 PM
Not much right now, just a poor student about 3 days from being done with school. One more stinkin paper, and somehow, I just don't want to do it. But then I get to start looking for a real job!
jefhatfield
Jul 18, 2003, 02:27 PM
i am in high tech...at one time that meant something:p
Flowbee
Jul 18, 2003, 02:27 PM
I think I make in a year what Oprah makes per minute.
jefhatfield
Jul 18, 2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by Flowbee
I think I make in a year what Oprah makes per minute.
wow, i am hungry for lunch right now...can you give me some?
ejb190
Jul 18, 2003, 02:38 PM
What I make is also public record.
But this thread reminds me of something I saw a while back (and I am sure some of you have seen it too).
http://www.uta.fi/~dk72365/portaali/huumori/money.shtml
WinterMute
Jul 18, 2003, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by hvfsl
Which London Uni do you work at? I know people at most of the London Universities.
I am proud to work at officially the ****est Uni in the land, Thames Valley Uni, based in the Ealing campus, However, we developed the best Music tech course in the country there (no bull, in a downward market were still 4:1 oversubscribed, and we have the biggest studio complex in Europe, 24 studios including 8 full 24-track and 5 5.1 surround rooms) and it's a fairly decent place to work.
Why do you know so many Uni bods?
jadariv
Jul 18, 2003, 04:00 PM
My adult work life has been a roller coaster since college. Worked in a grocery store right out of college (made decent money). Then moved to another town and became a data entry clerk. Within a year was promoted to State Supervisor of the whole database system (Dept. of Education job back in my home state) (making pretty good money).
Then one morning, i woke up and realized i was 28 and was not out in Hollywood working in movies and TV like i had always dreamed. So i quit the job, sold the house and moved out to California with no job prospects. Lived off the money i made from my house for six months until i finally got a job at a post house serving coffee to producers and checking in tapes (9.00 an hour). 28, with a degree, and i started working when i was 13. And here i was serving coffee for $9 an hour. My wife was not happy.
Anyway, it is now four years later and after much work and associated crap, i am happy to say that i will be clearing 6 figures this year. I'm not boasting in any way, it really isn't that much in california terms. But it shows that if you stick to your guns and really love what you do, you will be rewarded in some way.
tazo
Jul 18, 2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by hvfsl
I thought I would start a thread where people can boast about how much money they earn. Since there seems to be a lot of threads that are about silly things (e.g. the Tardis thread http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=32543).
Well I will start off, I am at Uni and don't have a full time job, although I build and repair PCs for people where a get about £2400 at year (about $3300). At the moment I just live off student loans.
Since I do not have any job (thx to those $%^%ing political fatcats who wont let people under 16 really have a job in WA), I really don't make any money. However I get bits and pieces of money, that some how come my way, so maybe 20 dollars a month?
Remember no job, which means any money is something :(
hacurio1
Jul 18, 2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by hvfsl
I thought I would start a thread where people can boast about how much money they earn. Since there seems to be a lot of threads that are about silly things (e.g. the Tardis thread http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=32543).
Well I will start off, I am at Uni and don't have a full time job, although I build and repair PCs for people where a get about £2400 at year (about $3300). At the moment I just live off student loans.
Same here LOL, I'm a poor student who makes about $3000 a year because of sumer jobs. Buy hey, I have enough saved for a brand new 15.4" Alu PowerBook
:cool: So it's all goooood
Groovsonic
Jul 18, 2003, 04:05 PM
Well, right at the moment I make $20,800 (pretax) a year as a "Warehouse manager", which let me tell you isn't enough to live on, (how am I supposed to pay for a computer and the things that you need for it, clothing, food, insurance, and car and the things you need for it on this, let alone any sort of social life or dating???) even though I live with my parents still. I am off to college in about a month, and then I will be living at the mercy of nice people.
Oh well, at least I will have a nice computer...
robbieduncan
Jul 18, 2003, 04:21 PM
I'm not going to give a spcific figure (my contract says I can't), but enough to pay a mortgage on my flat on Zone 2 (Central London), own a reasonably nice car, go out whenever I want, buy mostly what I want and go abroad 3 or 4 times a year. I work as a senior analyst programmer at Citigroup, where I have worked since I left University (just over 3 year, I'm almost 25 now).
I'm sure a lot of people would think I earn a lot of money, but I recon I am worth more!
britboy
Jul 18, 2003, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by robbieduncan
I'm not going to give a spcific figure (my contract says I can't), but enough to pay a mortgage on my flat on Zone 2 (Central London),....
I'm sure a lot of people would think I earn a lot of money, but I recon I am worth more!
I assume that you work in Canary Wharf? If you don't mind me asking, which part of zone 2 do you live in? I ask only because up until september last year i lived right next to Canada Water tube station, which you just might be familiar with ;)
Ha! You can never have enough money......
robbieduncan
Jul 18, 2003, 05:01 PM
I actually work in another of our buildings (120 Cheapside, just down from St Pauls), but all my users are in C.W. I live on Bow (just beside Roman Road Market), but I know the Canada Water area as I play touch rugby there at the moment. Are you still in London?
britboy
Jul 18, 2003, 05:34 PM
Yes, I'm still in London. Unfortunately though I had to move out a little further, to Barking (a real dump of a place). It's all I could afford to rent as a student. I got married last december, and didn't really want to be living at my parents place anymore. No doubt you understand ;)
Heh. I work just down the road from you.
mymemory
Jul 18, 2003, 06:39 PM
I may be making as much as $400 a month or less, I'm 28 and my country is in crisis since I have memory, that is why I'm moving to the US to make the $3000 I shoudl be making with my audio engineer degree and my multimedia degree too.
BTW, I do not see the problem telling how much money some one make, it is a pointless taboo.
pEZ
Jul 18, 2003, 08:26 PM
I make less than minimum wage working for an excellent non-for-profit organization, I have tons of fun doing it, and make just enough to pay the difference between a single and a double room in my dorm at college.
AppleMatt
Jul 18, 2003, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by mymemory
BTW, I do not see the problem telling how much money some one make, it is a pointless taboo.
I think it (partly) depends where you're from and your upbringing. Us British are wierd, we do silly things like waiting until everyone's at the table before starting to eat.
AppleMatt
bbarnhart
Jul 18, 2003, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by AppleMatt
I think it (partly) depends where you're from and your upbringing. Us British are wierd, we do silly things like waiting until everyone's at the table before starting to eat.
AppleMatt
We live in Kansas, USA and my family does the same thing.
As far as money goes, it is funny how people at the same company working at similar jobs can be paid a difference of 20%. It is also funny how people at the same company working at similar jobs can also make nearly the same, but the worth to the company can me a difference of 80% or more.
I have a good friend and work and we make about the same. He makes like 2% less than me. However, he does nothing. He writes some simple conversion apps occasionally, while I'm tasked with something monumental. He now has three simple projects on his plate that need to be finished by the end of the year that I could finish in two weeks.
I get all the hard stuff (which is fine by me) and he gets the fluff.
voicegy
Jul 19, 2003, 01:26 AM
Mine is a matter of public record as well, like several of the posters here. It's about 42,500 a year, and if I get some voice over jobs, that may add 2,000 to 5,000 a year to it.
What I haven't seen anyone mention is benefits, which I think are just as important, if not more so, than the base salary. I'm very thankful that medical, dental, vision and even chiropractic via my school district are covered nearly totally, which, when figured into the salary, brings up the "earnings" to a sizeable amount. Of course, you don't "see" the money...these days, with rising costs in health care, I'm sure it would just depress me to factor that into the mix as additional "income"....I'd be a friggin' millionaire.
Boys and girls, whatever you do, getting paid a lot shouldn't be the bottom line in your job searches...take into consideration those all-important medical coverage packages...the peace of mind is worth more than base earnings.
(of course, those of you in SOME forward thinking countries don't have to worry about such things...)
pseudobrit
Jul 19, 2003, 01:34 AM
What you make is less important as what you have left over after paying for rent/car/utilities/bills. Which is always somehow nothing.
Mr. Anderson
Jul 19, 2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by bbarnhart
I have a good friend and work and we make about the same. He makes like 2% less than me. However, he does nothing. He writes some simple conversion apps occasionally, while I'm tasked with something monumental. He now has three simple projects on his plate that need to be finished by the end of the year that I could finish in two weeks.
I get all the hard stuff (which is fine by me) and he gets the fluff.
Yeah, but that won't be a problem unless he's promoted over you. As long as your supervisor realizes what's going on then you're ok.
I've seen people get promoted just to smooth things over, not because they deserve it.
Kind of sad sometimes....
D
jefhatfield
Jul 19, 2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Yeah, but that won't be a problem unless he's promoted over you. As long as your supervisor realizes what's going on then you're ok.
I've seen people get promoted just to smooth things over, not because they deserve it.
Kind of sad sometimes....
D
omg lmao
my wife works for a company that has a lot of academics
smart maybe, but bad business people
if they are inept, they get promoted so they don't have to bog down the department
there are one person departments there
i also worked for uncle sam...very very few people get fired in this system so bad workers or troublesome workers simply get promoted up and out into another department
bad employees are tossed around for 20 or 30 years, released with a decent pension...and another usually socially inept person is put in their place
the feds are kind of like a welfare state...without them, the homeless population would double overnight
i thought it was funny in the movie armageddon when someone commented that they were about to fly off in a ship that was built by the lowest bidder of a govt contract:eek:
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