My School

[MetallicPenguin]

My school is really starting to annoy me.

We just redesigned the "point system."
And made changes to the dress code. You have to wear a collared shirt at all times, no screen print, shirts have to be tucked in throughout school day. (well it was already like that, but now the same thing goes for the girls)

If you are out of dress code, you receive one point; that means, if you walk out of the bathroom, with half of your shirt un-tucked accidently, you receive a point.
2 Points, you must go on a Saturday or Wednesday to pull up weeds or pick up trash for about 3 hours.

Then when you get 4 points, you do the same thing. 5 points: you get in-school suspension. 6 points, you do Saturday/Wednesday detail again, 8 points, and you get out-of-school suspension (regular suspension).

The points last for the entire year, they don't go back down to zero each quarter or semester.

The school has no Macs, no graphic courses, no video courses, and no design courses that I know of.

This is really getting on my nerves because my parents pay quite a bit of money for me to go here, and I don't like this at all, and neither does anyone else (including parents).

Does anyone have the same type of thing at their school?

[agreenster]

Find a public school with art/design courses you would prefer and enroll there. Plus, its free.

[iJon]

man your school sucks. at our school we can wear just about anything. girls have it more strict than us guys. girls cant wear spaghetti straps or tank tops. basically anything that shows off the shoulders. their belly cant show either. thats it. no obscene shirts but thats obvious. we can also wear hats. im sorry, i cant imagine doing that, especially me being in high school, that would drive me crazy. the only good thing i can see coming from this is no one can tell who is rich or poor. but honestly i never saw that as a problem at high school, but that may be because i was the one always wearing gap, abercrombie and banana republic.

iJon

[Mr. Anderson]

What does the school offer that makes you pay to go there? If you don't like it and you're choosing to go and pay them, then it sounds like you need to find something else.

D

[wdlove]

Is there a lower amount of violence at your school? In my mind, it seems that the discipline would make for a better leaning environment. Your school sounds more like it was when I attended elementary school. The teachers were strict and we were well manered for the most part!

[jelloshotsrule]

the dress code/points don't bother me as much as a private (ie, expensive) school with no facilities as you mentioned.... assuming what you want to do with yourself (at least now) is mac/graphics/video related, you aren't going to get much out of that place, at least not enough that's worth the price i'd say.

i went to catholic schools all of my k-12 years (except 2 years in korea) and i was getting religion and smaller classes for the money... which i guess was worth it to my parents. however, i didn't have much access to graphics... which i would have liked. and our ap classes were all of about 3-4... in other words, the fact that the school didn't get tax dollars funding it was not made up by the couple thousand a year price tag...

is your school a prep school that costs like 8+ thousand a year? or more in the line of 1-4 thousand a year?

[MacFan25]

I go to a public high school, and we have a similar dress code to iJon's school. Girls can't wear spaghetti straps. Guys can't wear tank tops. No alcohol or drug related shirts. It's a pretty simple code, and most people follow it.

I don't really think I would mind if we had to wear khakis and a collared shirt though.

MetallicPenguin, do your parents know that you don't like this school? I'm sure they would much rather have their money go to a school that you like, instead.

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
My school is really starting to annoy me.

We just redesigned the "point system."
And made changes to the dress code. You have to wear a collared shirt at all times, no screen print, shirts have to be tucked in throughout school day. (well it was already like that, but now the same thing goes for the girls)

If you are out of dress code, you receive one point; that means, if you walk out of the bathroom, with half of your shirt un-tucked accidently, you receive a point.
2 Points, you must go on a Saturday or Wednesday to pull up weeds or pick up trash for about 3 hours.

Then when you get 4 points, you do the same thing. 5 points: you get in-school suspension. 6 points, you do Saturday/Wednesday detail again, 8 points, and you get out-of-school suspension (regular suspension).

The points last for the entire year, they don't go back down to zero each quarter or semester.

The school has no Macs, no graphic courses, no video courses, and no design courses that I know of.

This is really getting on my nerves because my parents pay quite a bit of money for me to go here, and I don't like this at all, and neither does anyone else (including parents).

Does anyone have the same type of thing at their school?

Dude, I don't know why you're complaining. What if you went into a high powered business meeting with your shirt accidently untucked from your bathroom trip just previously?

I mean, come on. They're trying to give you some discipline, some sophistication. Do you have an art program at school? I bet you do. So ask about some intro to design stuff. Design isn't just about computers and if we start training kids in high school to be photoshop junkies right away, then the ad industry is in big trouble.

When I was in high school, we had to wear ties. We had to have shirts tucked in. We had to hair hair that was a certain length. We had a ramshackle art department, but you know what? We had a GREAT art teacher who taught me more about design than Photoshop or a bunch of Macs ever taught me.


So check yourself in the bathroom before you leave, read abotu design before plunking away at a Mac and making ugly ad layouts and you'll see how much of a better, more disciplined, prepared for college adult you'll be. ;)

m

[iJon]

i recommend you stay with the school. sure it has sucky dress code but the learning is probably much greater than many public schools. i went to private school for about 8 years and my test scores were always higher during those times. you have more attantion towards you because of it being a smaller class. i enjoy public school very much, but private was always better. all technical stuff i teach myself at my job. just stick it out and realize the real reason your at school.

iJon

[MetallicPenguin]

Yeah I mean, I'm not going to leave, but I'm going to try hard to get them to lay off a little, maybe try to get them to get a couple of Macs or something. I'm mostly complaining because last year it was three points for Saturday work, and like 10 points for in-school suspension, plus the points go back to zero every quarter, but they just decided to make it like 5 times harder on us for no reason.

Dude, I don't know why you're complaining. What if you went into a high powered business meeting with your shirt accidently untucked from your bathroom trip just previously?

Yeah but they wouldn't make you go outside and pick up trash and stuff for 3 hours.

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
Yeah but they wouldn't make you go outside and pick up trash and stuff for 3 hours.

But they won't give you the contract, which is WORSE in many ways.

A little character building punishment never hurt before. I'd much rather pick up trash and learn some decency and maturity and classiness than lose a big client. :)

You're a young one. You've got a lot to learn.

[MetallicPenguin]

Yeah I know but I'm a paranoid perfectionist, and I don't like to do things because people force me to, I like being unique, not programmed by someone, okay let's drop this, I'm babbling and discombobulating myself.

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
Yeah I know but I'm a paranoid perfectionist, and I don't like to do things because people force me to, I like being unique, not programmed by someone, okay let's drop this, I'm babbling and discombobulating myself.

So am I my friend, and I don't like doing things because someone else tells me, but you know what? You sometimes gotta play the game. There's better ways to subvert than throurgh incorrigibility. ;)

[iJon]

well i have to agree with some other people. picking up trash for doing anything wrong is just plain stupid. if they told me to pick up trash i would tell them to kiss my a** and walk back into class.

iJon

[MetallicPenguin]

Oh well I'll live I happen to be a straight A student who never gets in trouble, but if it becomes a case where everyone is in in-school suspension for half the year the school will see it.

PS: The point system gets twice as bad when I go into high-school. Oh man....

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by iJon
well i have to agree with some other people. picking up trash for doing anything wrong is just plain stupid. if they told me to pick up trash i would tell them to kiss my a** and walk back into class.

iJon

Shows how spoiled American kids are.....

[MetallicPenguin]

Originally posted by iJon
well i have to agree with some other people. picking up trash for doing anything wrong is just plain stupid. if they told me to pick up trash i would tell them to kiss my a** and walk back into class.

iJon

Then you get expelled.;)

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
Then you get expelled.;)

Rightly so. You have to understand that you're there to do a job, and act in a manner that prepares you for the world.

You need to show a little respect for the people who teach you, etc etc etc.

I know it's hard to understand now. But man, I got caught smoking cigs at high school once. I wasn't even on the property (was at a coffeehouse down the street after school)

My school has a policy that "you're a representative of the school and what it stands for" at all times. I knew this upfront. And I got busted.

My punishment? The Prefect of Discipline (an ex marine) made me smoke a cigarette while he held a bucket up to my face, trapping all the smoke, getting it in my eyes, etc.

Looking back, I respect that they did that. Immensely

[MetallicPenguin]

I don't see how schools are allowed to do that. But if it taught you, I can't argue.

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
I don't see how schools are allowed to do that. But if it taught you, I can't argue.

What's wrong with it? You go to a private school, your mom and dad and you know the consequences for your actions, that rules will be written and revised, and that if you don't like it, leave.

So suck it up and be a man. :) If you think this is bad, wait until you get your first real job

[tazo]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
My school is really starting to annoy me.

We just redesigned the "point system."
And made changes to the dress code. You have to wear a collared shirt at all times, no screen print, shirts have to be tucked in throughout school day. (well it was already like that, but now the same thing goes for the girls)

If you are out of dress code, you receive one point; that means, if you walk out of the bathroom, with half of your shirt un-tucked accidently, you receive a point.
2 Points, you must go on a Saturday or Wednesday to pull up weeds or pick up trash for about 3 hours.

Then when you get 4 points, you do the same thing. 5 points: you get in-school suspension. 6 points, you do Saturday/Wednesday detail again, 8 points, and you get out-of-school suspension (regular suspension).

The points last for the entire year, they don't go back down to zero each quarter or semester.

The school has no Macs, no graphic courses, no video courses, and no design courses that I know of.

This is really getting on my nerves because my parents pay quite a bit of money for me to go here, and I don't like this at all, and neither does anyone else (including parents).

Does anyone have the same type of thing at their school?

maybe you should talk to your parents about allowing you to go to a public school; I have never heard of a public school with such a demonic dress code/point system like that of your school.

[MetallicPenguin]

The problem is: I like my school, just not the people who run it and their rules; although the teachers are usually nice, I just mean the rules that the people at the top make. But there aren't many schools around here.

But I'll be fine with it, I was just wondering if anyone else's school was like this.

[tazo]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
The problem is: I like my school, just not the people who run it and their rules; although the teachers are usually nice, I just mean the rules that the people at the top make. But there aren't many schools around here.

But I'll be fine with it, I was just wondering if anyone else's school was like this.

no; because the vast majority do not go to schools such as yours. We have many more probs in public school...

[Moxiemike]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
The problem is: I like my school, just not the people who run it and their rules; although the teachers are usually nice, I just mean the rules that the people at the top make. But there aren't many schools around here.

But I'll be fine with it, I was just wondering if anyone else's school was like this.

BUT your school's rules are inherently tied to the whole academic experience. and it seems like you won't be happy with these new rules, inconsequential as they may be.

So you'll have to suck it up and be man. I guarantee my school was MUCH "worse" than yours. Be thankful you live in an age where schools coddle kids like you so as not to be sued by their fanatical parents, because juniors doesn't wanna play by the rules.

[MetallicPenguin]

Okay, I'll remember that.:)

Edit: Well I still think since my parents are paying $12,000+ (Roughly $36,000 a year because I have 2 brothers), my parents and I should at least have a say in what happens.

[FriarTuck]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
PS: The point system gets twice as bad when I go into high-school. Oh man....

Just so I have this straight...

You're complaining about the lack of design classes in junior high?

What about neurosurgery? Torts & Remedies?

My advice: Slow down. As long as you're paying attention you'll get your shot at what you want. But don't be in such a hurry.

[MetallicPenguin]

While like I said, there aren't any design classes in the school that I know of, including high school.

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Moxiemike
Dude, I don't know why you're complaining. What if you went into a high powered business meeting with your shirt accidently untucked from your bathroom trip just previously?


This is what i hate from people and parents here:
HighSchool Isn't Work, He isn't at a a Business meeting, I doubt a high schooler has that kind of job at all.

Seriously Those restrictions are harsh.


I mean, come on. They're trying to give you some discipline, some sophistication. Do you have an art program at school? I bet you do. So ask about some intro to design stuff. Design isn't just about computers and if we start training kids in high school to be photoshop junkies right away, then the ad industry is in big trouble.

Didn't he state that there we no coarses he knew of?


When I was in high school, we had to wear ties.
Sweet Lord. :eek:
Did you happen to go to one of the 'High School for the Next Gen Business leader' ? I mean I know private schools are strict, but this school sounds worse then the public ones offered everywhere.

So check yourself in the bathroom before you leave, read abotu design before plunking away at a Mac and making ugly ad layouts and you'll see how much of a better, more disciplined, prepared for college adult you'll be. ;)

m
Are there such things as 'kiddy colleges'?

Originally posted by Moxiemike
A little character building punishment never hurt before. I'd much rather pick up trash and learn some decency and maturity and classiness than lose a big client. :)

You're a young one. You've got a lot to learn.
Yeah, but look by setting these strict rules they are changing his character?

Being a kid is all about building your own character, making sure you are who you want to be.

Originally posted by Moxiemike
Shows how spoiled American kids are.....
Where the heck did you grow up?

On some Oxford College Campus?

Originally posted by Moxiemike
Rightly so. You have to understand that you're there to do a job, and act in a manner that prepares you for the world.

Note: Should happen on your time, not the High Schools. It happens in College...


I know it's hard to understand now. But man, I got caught smoking cigs at high school once. I wasn't even on the property (was at a coffeehouse down the street after school)

My school has a policy that "you're a representative of the school and what it stands for" at all times. I knew this upfront. And I got busted.

Tell me how... how they 'busted' you when you weren't even on school grounds? How do they have the authority to do, anything to you when your not even on their property?


My punishment? The Prefect of Discipline (an ex marine) made me smoke a cigarette while he held a bucket up to my face, trapping all the smoke, getting it in my eyes, etc.

Looking back, I respect that they did that. Immensely
Well, even though I am anti-smoking, what he did was wrong, and probably against the law.

Originally posted by Moxiemike
What's wrong with it? You go to a private school, your mom and dad and you know the consequences for your actions, that rules will be written and revised, and that if you don't like it, leave.

So suck it up and be a man. :) If you think this is bad, wait until you get your first real job
I have a job, I am Respectable in Dress, the way I speak, but I am nothing like that in real life. This is why I don't like super superior dress codes...

Originally posted by Moxiemike
BUT your school's rules are inherently tied to the whole academic experience. and it seems like you won't be happy with these new rules, inconsequential as they may be.

So you'll have to suck it up and be man. I guarantee my school was MUCH "worse" than yours. Be thankful you live in an age where schools coddle kids like you so as not to be sued by their fanatical parents, because juniors doesn't wanna play by the rules.
This comment seems to disagree with your kids should be allowed to be kids idea...
Kids should now be as Adult as their parents?

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
While like I said, there aren't any design classes in the school that I know of, including high school.

You should really talk to the school about that, I mean since they are being an almost College like Standards they should have these Courses Available!

BTW, Moxiemike -- Don't take is personally for me quoting like your every comment but you seem to hold him to your own level of where he should be at.

Comparing a Middle School Kid to a Adult Business Meeting...

[MetallicPenguin]

Thank you MrMacMan

I believe socialization brings character. The punishment will bring plenty of character even if it doesn't show, but it won't be the character the school is looking for. :rolleyes:

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
Thank you MrMacMan

haha, anytime, I just saw some posts I have a marginal problem with and stated my views.

:)

[mc68k]

i had something similar in my JH experience. it was called the step system. basically if you broke one of the rules, or the teacher or staff member felt you were out of line they gave you a step.

these steps would clear after a certain amount of time (week[s])
if they got built up there would be certain penalties. i believe i got 6 at one point and there was a conference with my dad and all of the teachers that gave me the steps. the principal was even there...not the vice principal, but the real principal

dress code is the worst :( but with the way kids dress nowadays i can see some of the reason. i wish girls dressed like that when i was in public school :P

[iJon]

Originally posted by Moxiemike
Shows how spoiled American kids are.....
yeah yeah i know, rich america kid, i hear it all the time. anyways went i went to my private school they treated us like gods, i guess because we were paying for the school and have the classrooms, gyms, and halls were named after my friends parents for donating so much money.

iJon

[Durandal7]

In my opinion High School is merely the punchline to a 12 year joke.