Anyone got their tongue pierced?

[edesignuk]

Here's an interesting one for you all, does anyone have their tongue pierced? I am seriously thinking about doing it :D and wondered if anyone here had any first hand experiences?

Thanks!

[mymemory]

I had my nose.

I'm not in to pircing, it doesn't call my attention at all. I did it with my nose to experiment but that was it, I wouldn't recomend it to any body but...

A few years ago I saw a girl that was a sort of cute, then I saw her tongue pierced and I just felt in love with her, may be because she had a "dark kinky side" and that exited me but that was it, never again, it was just that time.

[iGav]

Nope, but I do have my nose and lip pierced and a couple of other things done... ;) :D

I thought about my tounge, but I'm put off because I hate metal things clanging into my teet.

I know quite a few people that have it done, and no one suffered any major problems, beside the usual tounge swelling for 48 hours!

I get my piercings done at Cold steel in Camden, and also there's one that is on the opposite side of the road facing Camden Lock right next to the railway arches, it's above a shoe shop, the woman that does it there is very, very good...

There's also a cracking pub around the corner where you can have a couple of stiff drinks to calm your nerves before you go in!! ;)

I love been pierced, but it's a case of self control because I don't want to end up with a face full of metal that is comparable to the Terminator!! heh-heh!!

My next pet-body-art project is a tattoo, that I'm designing myself, the thought of skimming through a book and having a generic design is just.... :rolleyes:

[Kwyjibo]

doesn't anyone remember the Chris Rock song " Theres no sex in the champagne room"... this girl at my work had one but then her mom happened to see it and forced her to take it out for the next two weeks I had to drive her home because if she drove her self her parents would know we were hanging out a few hours after work :) ....thats about all of my experience

[wdlove]

Never had anything pierced. It's something that I never even considered. You should really investigate the place that you are going to have it done. Your health should be your major consideration!

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by mymemory
I had my nose.

I'm not in to pircing, it doesn't call my attention at all. I did it with my nose to experiment but that was it, I wouldn't recomend it to any body but...

A few years ago I saw a girl that was a sort of cute, then I saw her tongue pierced and I just felt in love with her, may be because she had a "dark kinky side" and that exited me but that was it, never again, it was just that time.

as it has been widely reported, oral sex is not a major, if at all, way to spread HIV

but piercing your tongue can possibly give the virus an "in" into one's body...i know, it still sounds very improbable, but as an HIV education volunteer with heroin and intravenous drug users, i want to point this out

the virus needs a very obvious way to get into the body so that's why toilet seats and doorknobs and french kissing have never been reported as a means of spreading the HIV virus...besides needing an "in", it has to infect the body in sufficient quantities also to take hold

but overall, i have never heard of any "problems" or complaints of any sort with people piercing their tongue...but healthwise, piercing one's genitals is a more controversial process and some say can lead to problems

piercing a large part of our culture today so for now, it's here to stay but due to its tremendous popularity, it can no longer be seen as any sort of rebellious statement...same with tatoos

[King Cobra]

I do not...

I know of one classmate from my H.S. that does. Multiple piercings.

At least four in each ear, the tongue, and perhaps a few above his eyes.

jef, do tell about AIDS being spread so easily. But try telling it to the person I just described, only 16, and dangerously potential to receive the virus.

[davy the bunny]

I have 2 piercings in my tongue and two in my bottom lip. I think that if you really want it, as in you really want it just for you, then you'll be more than happy with it after you do it. But as other people have said, just be careful about where you go. I guess I'm just paranoid but I went to a few piercers to check them out first, asked around, even checked out a couple of sites online before I did it.

Basically, all I'm trying to say is, if you want to keep your tongue afterwards, make sure that you do your homework! Research potential issues such as swelling, make sure that you obtain something to clean it with (I use plain old run of the mill salt water), know what type of jewelry the piercer will be using to start you with. . . okay I'm rambling, I'll stop.

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by King Cobra
I do not...

I know of one classmate from my H.S. that does. Multiple piercings.

At least four in each ear, the tongue, and perhaps a few above his eyes.

jef, do tell about AIDS being spread so easily. But try telling it to the person I just described, only 16, and dangerously potential to receive the virus.

in the united states, just one country, the virus is mostly in the intravenous drug user commmunity and the gay community, but worldwide, it's a disease that attacks mostly heterosexual people

the virus doesn't care what lifestyle or race the person is, it just wants a warm body to reside in

the good news is that this virus will never prove to be as virulent as the bubonic plague

[davy the bunny]

It escapes me as to how tattoos and piercings are associated with sexual transmitted diseaes. . . I mean I understand what you're sayig but why did you even bring it up? I'm not trying to be hostile, just asking. . .

[uhlawboi80]

after years doing HIV research i would have to say that a tongue peircing wouldnt increase your chances of infection AT ALL once the peircing is healed. Like any other peircing, once it has "healed" its no longer an "open" portion of skin, and is no more suseptable than any other part of your skin (or mucous membrane in this case).

and no...HIV wont be as virulent in the sense that it doesnt act as fast or do as much damage as quickly to tissue, though bubonic plague was much easier spread. Not that bubonic plagues a big issue, it can be cured with one of various antibiotics because it isnt a virus :p

[davy the bunny]

I was under the impression that piercings through membranes and cartilage(nose, tongue, tough parts of the ear) never actually healed because the membrane can't "close itself off". But I'm not sure, being that you've researched HIV, would you know anything about that kind of thing?

[sonofslim]

like anything else, you get what you pay for... if you're piercing/inking/modifying ANYTHING, do make sure you're at a clean, reputable, experienced studio.

ask your friends, or even friendly-looking strangers, where they had their work done and what their impressions were of the place. do yourself a favor and get some worthwhile recommendations before you let people start poking holes in you.

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by sonofslim
like anything else, you get what you pay for... if you're piercing/inking/modifying ANYTHING, do make sure you're at a clean, reputable, experienced studio.

ask your friends, or even friendly-looking strangers, where they had their work done and what their impressions were of the place. do yourself a favor and get some worthwhile recommendations before you let people start poking holes in you.

exactly!!

[uhlawboi80]

god yes! you CAN get HIV from dirty tattoo/piercing equipment! beyond that, if they pierce to deep it can cause large keloid scaring and if its too shallow it can tear out easily or never completely heal correctly. Too deep of a tattoo in certain areas can actually cause nerve damage! if you are getting anything done you should definately check them out. ask to see the equipment being removed from a sterilization pouch and always check with other people to see if they do ok work.

[NavyIntel007]

I know a few people who have tongue piercings. Some of them talk with a lisp now. Just a warning.

[evapor8]

I've got my tongue pierced. It was done for me, the way I wanted it. I did my research and all the fun stuff. And contrary to some people, I don't have a lisp, and I had it done in such a place where you can hardly even notice I have it unless I show people. I love talking about it and other bod-mods, so if you have any questions, shoot 'em over.

[davy the bunny]

Anyone stuck with a lisp probably has the wrong size jewelry, either a barbell too long or a ball too big, it's not really too much concern if you get jewelry for you and not just every other person that wants a hole in their body.

[edesignuk]

Wow! A lot of responses all of a sudden! :eek: I’m still thinking about it, I’d like to get it done, but it’s finding a good time to do it. I work full time and have a client-facing job where I speak to people all day every day. Apparently you can sound very strange for the first 1-2 weeks, this would be no good in my situation :(

[iGav]

Originally posted by edesignuk
Wow! A lot of responses all of a sudden! :eek: I’m still thinking about it, I’d like to get it done, but it’s finding a good time to do it. I work full time and have a client-facing job where I speak to people all day every day. Apparently you can sound very strange for the first 1-2 weeks, this would be no good in my situation :(

If you get chance, Go to Cold Steel in Camden or maybe Chiko's in Camden Market opposite Dingwalls, and talk to someone there, they'll fill you in and they're 2 of the best in London...

http://www.coldsteel.co.uk/frames.html

I'll go with ya if you want!! ;)

[rhpenguin]

Ive got an industrial (a scaffold piercing for you folks across the pond) and a prince albert. If theres one thing I can say about them is TAKE CARE OF THEM!!!! Don't touch or play with them unless they need to be cleaned untill they are healed and always be clean about it. Another thing that I cant stress enough is make sure the place that does your piercing is clean and the piercer knows what their doing. Ask to see a portfolio of things they have done and ask questions like theres no tomorow. If they answer without hesitation they usualy know what theyre talking about. When i got my prince albert done, I took a three hour drive because i did not feel as if any of the local places knew what they were doing (and i dont want someone that doesnt know what theyre doing handling my hardware). So in short just make sure that you pick a place that knows what theyre doing and take good care of whatever you get done.

[mcrain]

I had my tongue pierced 7 years ago or so. The advice so far has been very good. Do research, get a good piercer, take good care of it until it heals, and get an appropriate stud so you can talk and function.

One more thing. Don't make my mistake. I got mine done on vacation and despite all the wonderful food surrounding me, I couldn't eat much of anything. :( So, make sure you're not going to be surrounded by tempting food before you do it.

[iGav]

Originally posted by mcrain
One more thing. Don't make my mistake. I got mine done on vacation and despite all the wonderful food surrounding me, I couldn't eat much of anything. :( So, make sure you're not going to be surrounded by tempting food before you do it.

or go to a place that is full of many beautiful women who are full of pent up lust.... ;) :D

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by mcrain
One more thing. Don't make my mistake. I got mine done on vacation and despite all the wonderful food surrounding me, I couldn't eat much of anything. :( So, make sure you're not going to be surrounded by tempting food before you do it.

am i the only one who thinks it's funny that a tax lawyer (or any lawyer) has their tongue pierced? hah

[frescies]

had my eyebrow pierced. Man it looked stupid. So did my ear piercings.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by iGAV
If you get chance, Go to Cold Steel in Camden or maybe Chiko's in Camden Market opposite Dingwalls, and talk to someone there, they'll fill you in and they're 2 of the best in London...

http://www.coldsteel.co.uk/frames.html

I'll go with ya if you want!! ;)
Cool, thanks for that link iGAV, their forums are full of info!

[wdlove]

Originally posted by frescies
had my eyebrow pierced. Man it looked stupid. So did my ear piercings.

So did you have them removed? To me it seems that as one matures, they become less attractive!

[question fear]

i had a tongue pierce my freshman yr of college.
it made me hate listerine for over a year.
that is all.
--carly

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by wdlove
So did you have them removed? To me it seems that as one matures, they become less attractive!

when people get frumpy or wrinkled, a tongue pierce or tatoo looks so terrible...it does not suit the middle aged person that well...tattoos on flabby skin...yeech

i am glad that i didn't go for that...but when i was a kid, peircings and tattoos were very rare anyway

but i have to admit, a lot of piercing concepts/designs and tattoos do look good on younger people with tight skin and good muscle tone...and now tattoos can be removed so when one is older with raised moles and brown age spots, the tattoos are long gone by then ;)

[wdlove]

Tattos and piercings were rare if not almost non-existant for me growing up. It was something that I saw in a magazine, at a movie, or on TV. The baby boom generation has made it popular with it's vanity. They just keep inventing procedures to keep it lasting!

[OutThere]

blech. never.

[MissPeanut07]

Here's an interesting one for you all, does anyone have their tongue pierced? I am seriously thinking about doing it :D and wondered if anyone here had any first hand experiences?

Thanks!
Hey i am gettin mine done tommorow i am sure to write in and tell you about it.I already have my nose pierced!My brother is a tatoo artist and he said that it doesnt hurt but then again he has tatoos everywhere :p

[Counterfit]

My cousin, a homosexual, oboe playing/singing, real estate agent in Seattle, had his tongue pierced for a while. He would constantly flick it around and it was very annoying. Then he took it out and he said it did wonders for his single tonguing :D
My brother has one in each ear, and used to have both nipples pierced. One day, he was swimming in the pool and another cousin of mine, who was 8 or so at the time, asked him why he wore a shirt in the pool. My brother said it was to prevent sunburns. I just looked at him and had to stop myself from laughing.

[question fear]

Hey i am gettin mine done tommorow i am sure to write in and tell you about it.I already have my nose pierced!My brother is a tatoo artist and he said that it doesnt hurt but then again he has tatoos everywhere :p

i got my tongue re-pierced a while ago...it healed up great and i love it now...i suggest biotene, its this soothing mouthwash, makes everything in your mouth happy.
also, make sure you go to a reputable place. the place i got mine pierced had a certificate from the boston health dept and the # posted on the wall, with a note encouraging you to call them with any concerns...the place was run by registered nurse. all types o clean.
-carly

[r6girl]

i had my tongue pierced almost 6 years ago (in a mid-20's "crisis", i think). i had seen a guy with one and just thought it looked cool (yes, that was my sole reason for getting one - after all, it's not permanent). anyway, i second what mcrain said - find a good piercer, take care of it, and know that you won't be able to each much in the few days afterward. and you do talk funny for the first couple of weeks. i took a friday off of work to get it done, thinking somehow that i'd be okay by monday. wrong! i had a new hire orientation presentation to give in front of 80 people on monday morning, and i sounded like an idiot. oh well.

as for the lisping, i've been told that i do lisp when i'm tired. i guess i lose focus on clearing enunciating at the end of a long day at work. kind of funny, though it did make me wonder if i do that a lot (my husband swears it's rare that i do, so i'm reassured by that).

i work in a very corporate environment, so i tend to get comments and questions about it from co-workers (though it's not very obvious when i talk from the way my mouth is shaped and where it's placed - you can really only see it when i laugh or yawn). it's never stopped me from getting a job, or from being taken seriously (at least as far as i can tell - i've gotten promotions and interacted with senior management without incident).

i think i'll keep it for a while - can't say if or when i'll ever grow out of it. i still think it's pretty cool, and it's getting rarer among my friends and colleagues as i get older, so it turns out to be something of a novelty as well. though i did have to marry the one guy who doesn't find it, um, particularly stimulating, shall we say... :o

i think you should go for it if you want one - it can always be removed if you don't like it...

marianne

[jenniff]

I know quite a few people that have it done, and no one suffered any major problems, beside the usual tounge swelling for 48 hours!

I have heard about people who lost their sense of taste after having their tongue pierced. Granted, the "victims" were friends of acquaintances, and I've done no research of my own to see any truth in this. However, the prospect of forever losing one's sense of taste is frightening at best!

You all seem more educated about this. Were they joshin' me, or is there a possibility of losing your taste?

[Les Kern]

Yeth I did, and I'm happy to thay that my bawth ith aww fow it. My job ith a diwektew of media communicathuns, thow it weewee helpth to wewate to the thtudenths I thee.

Tongue thtudths ith athinine.

[Les Kern]

when people get frumpy or wrinkled, a tongue pierce or tatoo looks so terrible...it does not suit the middle aged person that well...tattoos on flabby skin...yeech

i am glad that i didn't go for that...but when i was a kid, peircings and tattoos were very rare anyway

but i have to admit, a lot of piercing concepts/designs and tattoos do look good on younger people with tight skin and good muscle tone...and now tattoos can be removed so when one is older with raised moles and brown age spots, the tattoos are long gone by then ;)

Listen to this guy! I don't even know how to answer this...... me being an old guy and all.

[Counterfit]

Yeth I did, and I'm happy to thay that my bawth ith aww fow it. My job ith a diwektew of media communicathuns, thow it weewee helpth to wewate to the thtudenths I thee.

Tongue thtudths ith athinine. ROFL!! :D


question fear: YEESH! Another Bostoner! I think we're taking over this forum :P

[question fear]

ROFL!! :D


question fear: YEESH! Another Bostoner! I think we're taking over this forum :P

definitely taking over.
enjoying this lovely storm?

[Counterfit]

I love it, my only physics class of the week got canceled :D

[parrothead]

I have a friend that has had his tongue pierced for a few years and never really had any problems with it (that I know of).

[wdlove]

I have a friend that has had his tongue pierced for a few years and never really had any problems with it (that I know of).

Having proper hygiene makes all the difference. He's very lucy, since the mouth is filled with bacteria.

[AngryLawnGnome]

A couple years ago, I woke up drugged and covered in piercings in Mexico. I had five of those bar types through each of my arms, 7 on one ear, 4 on the other, a navel ring, as well as two in my nose and one in my right butt cheek. Still don't know who did it or how it happened. I had them all removed, but I still have scars on my arms.

[question fear]

I love it, my only physics class of the week got canceled :D


lucky you. my roommate had to go to her law school presentation tonight, and as far as i know i still have work tomorrow...bah.

however, i did notice all the school closings on the news, especially the "boston-all night classes"...we were like, the whole city???

and, um, on topic....

wdlove, i know the mouth is full of bacteria but don't people develop immunity over time to most bacteria in the mouth? theres potential exposure from cankersores, etc, and the risk is only as long as the sore exists. its the same wiht a tongue piercing, once the hole heals theres no more exposed tissue...right?

[Nanda Devi]

I had a tongue piercing about 6 years ago, in college. The actual piercing didn't hurt, but it was very swollen and painful for about the next 3 or 4 days... it was a week or so before I could eat anything but yogurt. Don't plan on having a decent meal for a while afterwards. Also, for a good month or two after I used to bite the barbell a lot when chewing, which doesn't feel good. Also had a hard time speaking clearly at first, but that only lasted a couple of days.

I liked having it, and the truth is I didn't want to get rid of it when I did. I took it out once with the intention of putting it back in, and I literally had it out for all of 10 minutes and when I tried to put it back in I could not find the hole anymore, so that was the end of my tongue piercing. (It would definitely be gone by now though...)

Anyone else ever experience that with a piercing??

[wdlove]

[QUOTE=question fearwdlove, i know the mouth is full of bacteria but don't people develop immunity over time to most bacteria in the mouth? theres potential exposure from cankersores, etc, and the risk is only as long as the sore exists. its the same wiht a tongue piercing, once the hole heals theres no more exposed tissue...right?[/QUOTE]

As long as your immune system doesn't get run down then you are safe from an opportunisic infection. If you get bacteria from another person then you are at risk. Once the area of the piercing heals then you are at reduced risk.

[question fear]

[QUOTE=question fearwdlove, i know the mouth is full of bacteria but don't people develop immunity over time to most bacteria in the mouth? theres potential exposure from cankersores, etc, and the risk is only as long as the sore exists. its the same wiht a tongue piercing, once the hole heals theres no more exposed tissue...right?

As long as your immune system doesn't get run down then you are safe from an opportunisic infection. If you get bacteria from another person then you are at risk. Once the area of the piercing heals then you are at reduced risk.[/QUOTE]

ok, thats what i thought.
interestingly, i have had more problems with other piercings that didnt heal well...especially my septum, which not only did not heal, but even 5+ years after taking it out i have pain fromthe scar tissue.

i think the mouth is more resilient then we give it credit for.

[Les Kern]

As long as your immune system doesn't get run down then you are safe from an opportunisic infection. If you get bacteria from another person then you are at risk.

Not quite.
While lower-than-normal T-cell counts can indeed lead to more infections, bugs like those that cause septicemia can strike anyone at any time, and kill them dead. My wife almost died from it (Toxic Shock Syndrome), and her counts were normal before. Another man in my town, perfectly healthy, died from an infected toe. He waited too long to get help, but the man left 3 kids and a wife at age 35. You don't get it from other people. This isn't the flu bug dude! Self-mutilation just invites trouble... big trouble. And with the pharaceutical firms finding it more and more difficult to produce working anti-biotics (some bugs only to respond to ONE drug!), cutting a hole in my tongue for some attempt at vanity is assinine. But alas, it's a free country. Just don't ask me to pay for your $40,000 ICU bill. That's what mine was.

[Les Kern]

The actual piercing didn't hurt, but it was very swollen and painful for about the next 3 or 4 days... it was a week or so before I could eat anything but yogurt. Don't plan on having a decent meal for a while afterwards. Also, for a good month or two after I used to bite the barbell a lot when chewing, which doesn't feel good. Also had a hard time speaking clearly at first, but that only lasted a couple of days.

Oh THAT sound cool! Wait, I want my eyes pierced, and hey, put a 5-inch titanium rod through my penis side-ways while you're at it! Ohh, wait! A section of chain-link fence would look GREAT rammed up my ass!
After that I'll get the career I always wanted:
"You wanna thooper thize that?"

[IndyGopher]

Before I moved about a month ago, I was working next to a health food store. Being the only place to buy bottled water without having to drive somewhere, I was in there a couple times a day.
The last time I was in there, one of the freaky hippies that worked the counter was complaining to another of the freaky hippies that she had been fired from her last job because she wouldn't remove her tongue ornamentation while at work. Not being one who cares much what other people do with their lives, I was more annoyed by the fact that she was holding a conversation with another employee while she was supposed to be rining me out... until she said that it made her mad, because she had it so far back that no one could tell she had it pierced.
At that point I let her know that yes, anyone who heard her talk could plainly tell that she either had her tongue pierced, was deaf, or had a mouthful of food.. because everyone I have ever known with a tongue piercing sounds like that.
Perhaps I listen to people more closely than most, perhaps I have just been unfortunate and through the miracle of distribution have only spoken with people with bad piercings or too-large jewelry.. whatever. No one hears what they sound like when they talk, that's why recordings of your own voice sound so weird.. but in my experience, you CAN tell that someone has their tongue pierced, and unless you work in an industry where that sort of self-expression is embraced (and you don't speak to the public) then it is a hinderance.
I think a lot of these young people do whatever they can to build-in excuses for their own failures. Ok, done ranting. Sorry.

[Les Kern]

...theres potential exposure from cankersores, etc, and the risk is only as long as the sore exists. its the same wiht a tongue piercing, once the hole heals theres no more exposed tissue...right?

Man, you all are so messed up. Canker sores are from the herpes virus, simplex 2 I think. This is NOT the same as what you're worried about! (And you SHOULD be worried). Before you get that proceedure, LEARN what the REAL risks are, not from a freakin net forum, but from professionals. And WDlove, quit handing out bogus health info to the gullible, the uninformed and the stupid. You're not dealing with Macs and rumors, but with peoples well-being. Sheesh.

[scem0]

I'd never get anything pierced, but who knows what I'll think about piercing in 5 years.

But as of now I wouldn't dream of getting my tongue pierced.

And tongue piercings are very unattractive IMO.

scem0

[TEG]

I've never had anything pierced. However over the last few years, I've thought of getting my ear pierced. I'd never get my tounge done because i have a hard enough time with just my tongue, and my teeth, I doubt I could handle a piercing I there too.

TEG

[Doctor Q]

My opinion as a rational observer: ewwwwwwww! But just an opinion.

[Savage Henry]

:confused: I've never understood how expression of self can be translated into wedging steel rods through flappy bits of tissue.


'Different strokes..' and all that I suppose.

[Nanda Devi]

Oh THAT sound cool! Wait, I want my eyes pierced, and hey, put a 5-inch titanium rod through my penis side-ways while you're at it! Ohh, wait! A section of chain-link fence would look GREAT rammed up my ass!
After that I'll get the career I always wanted:
"You wanna thooper thize that?"

Jeezus.... may I ask why you chose to single me out to unload on? What can I say, I was 18 years old when I did that to myself, it was sort of stupid at the time, but I also remember getting a lot of compliments on it and at the time it rather fit my image (or the one I was trying to project).

Now that I'm an adult working in the professional world I would never dream of piercing anything. I was simply trying to give an account of my own experience from over 8 years ago to serve as a bit of advice to the original poster of this thread who is thinking about getting a piercing. Why judge someone on what they choose to do with their own body? To each his own. There's really no reason to get nasty.

And please, respond to this and attempt to provide some justification for your comments. If you were really just trying to be funny, sorry I missed the joke....

ND

[Inspector Lee]

Oh THAT sound cool! Wait, I want my eyes pierced, and hey, put a 5-inch titanium rod through my penis side-ways while you're at it! Ohh, wait! A section of chain-link fence would look GREAT rammed up my ass!
After that I'll get the career I always wanted:
"You wanna thooper thize that?"

And let me guess your definition of self-expression - "tattooing" yourself with brand-name designer rubbish that you saw on the teevee last night? "Piercing" your innards with the latest and greatest from the pharmaceutical circus that engages in symptomless advertising? And how about "ramming" your fellow American workers in the a$$ because Mega-store A has imported turd blossoms from China and is selling them for a nickel less than the ma n' pa store which is now going out of business and boy you can't buy enough.

Don't choke on all that fruit while you're out on a limb...

[Les Kern]

And let me guess your definition of self-expression - "tattooing" yourself with brand-name designer rubbish that you saw on the teevee last night? "Piercing" your innards with the latest and greatest from the pharmaceutical circus that engages in symptomless advertising? And how about "ramming" your fellow American workers in the a$$ because Mega-store A has imported turd blossoms from China and is selling them for a nickel less than the ma n' pa store which is now going out of business and boy you can't buy enough.

Don't choke on all that fruit while you're out on a limb...

Wow. A limb?
Actually (To clarify) I personally don't like like it, but like any good moderate, progressive individual, I refuse to tell folks what they can and can not do to their body. My whole point was that learning about what amounts to a medical procedure from a internet forum dedicated to computers is ill-advised at best. (Note my quote: "Before you get that proceedure, LEARN what the REAL risks are, not from a freakin net forum, but from professionals") You most certainly confuse my concern for others as some kind of rigid, frigid, fundamentalist neo-con manic expression. Sorry, wrong. Oh, and that part about paying the bills of the idiot who gets septicemia because their self-expression is border-line psychotic, that still goes. So pierce away. Oh, and from what I devine from your quasi-intellectual prattle about the selling of America... sure. Burn down all the ****** Wal-Marts and I won't shed a tear.

[Les Kern]

please, respond to this and attempt to provide some justification for your comments. If you were really just trying to be funny, sorry I missed the joke....

I was, and please don't even think for a second it was directed at you! If you are offended, I apologize. Hell, I'd NEVER tell about some of the crap I did when I was young! Not even my wife.

[Inspector Lee]

Burn down all the ****** Wal-Marts and I won't shed a tear.

me being an old guy and all

And it is good to see that you old guys can still scrap.

Peace Les

:)

[Nanda Devi]

I was, and please don't even think for a second it was directed at you! If you are offended, I apologize. Hell, I'd NEVER tell about some of the crap I did when I was young! Not even my wife.

Glad to hear you weren't just picking on me... boy, am I paranoid or what? :)

Mac Rumors can be a rough place for us sensitive types! But I'm over it now.

ND