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Durandal7
Aug 21, 2003, 08:21 PM
Warner Brothers has released the trailer for Matrx Revolutions. It is about 90 seconds and is not the version shown after Matrix Reloaded showings.


320 Version 15MB
http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/revolutions_320_dl.mov

640*480 Version 33MB
http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/revolutions_640_dl.mov



Mr. Anderson
Aug 21, 2003, 08:25 PM
Is this the same one that's at the end of the last movie - which I never saw.....

Cool stuff, though, can't wait :D

D

Durandal7
Aug 21, 2003, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Is this the same one that's at the end of the last movie - which I never saw.....

Cool stuff, though, can't wait :D

D

No, this is a new one, it is extended version and has a lot of the same footage as the other trailer though.

MrMacMan
Aug 21, 2003, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Is this the same one that's at the end of the last movie - which I never saw.....

Cool stuff, though, can't wait :D

D

Nope, this is totally different.

I have seen both and I have also seen it, but then there was also another trailer which me and my friends have seen which was 30-1 Min long and left much to be asked, personally I think the movie place screwed up or something...

I got this from BitTorrent a little while ago.

Maybe a day or so.

Durandal7
Aug 21, 2003, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Nope, this is totally different.

I have seen both and I have also seen it, but then there was also another trailer which me and my friends have seen which was 30-1 Min long and left much to be asked, personally I think the movie place screwed up or something...

I wouldn't be surprised if the trailer that was run after Reloaded is used as a TV ad, it was only about 40 seconds tops.

scem0
Aug 21, 2003, 08:51 PM
nothing too exciting but I still can't wait to see it.

scem0

eyeluvmyimac
Aug 21, 2003, 09:00 PM
NEW NEWS ON whatisthematrix.com in breaking news....here it is...

"A black cat has just passed our front page."

??? What does it mean ???

I know a black cat means a glitch in the matrix....possibly....but I couldn't find anything, can you guys?

eyeluvmyimac
Aug 21, 2003, 09:10 PM
Just noticed something! At the very bottom of the main page www.whatisthematrix.com

You have to make sure and go ALL the way to the bottom and there is an image called

"/hex_hint_f08.gif"

Now I know what that means but I don't know how to take the into and enact it into the hex area that I just learnd yesterday thanks to "000111one111000" also known as enoch -- if youre reading this enoch or anyone who can help, please do so (help). Thanks. Below is the actual image.

It appears to say "0x///E/////"

eyeluvmyimac
Aug 21, 2003, 09:35 PM
Ah hah!! Cracked it!

I'm not gonna say how...but I'll give you a hint...it changes every time you reload the page...and what you get is called "The Matrix Tunnel Recon" -- checking it out right now...

***EDIT***
Checked it out -- kinda cool -- its a pac-man like game with some twists, see for yourselves. Very poor graphics lol but kinda adds to it. Cya around

Perci Mac
Aug 21, 2003, 11:32 PM
Cool looking movie. Any bets on Matrix Revolutions breaking the opening weekend record ?

Nermal
Aug 22, 2003, 12:08 AM
I downloaded this yesterday, it's the third one I've seen. I've got 2 of them on my HD and the other was at the end of Reloaded.

MrMacMan
Aug 22, 2003, 12:35 AM
Yeah its cool.


eyeluvmyimac:
I don't get it... oh well...

And you could have edited your posts instead of back2back.

Good stuff anywya.


http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rv_img/photo_rev12.jpg

So the asian guy is not only good at fighting, but guns also? What can't he do?!?!

;)

Yes I know his name :p

alphaone
Aug 22, 2003, 01:26 AM
That was pretty cool. One question that is really stuck in my mind is what are those absolutely giant machine ships... Any ideas???:confused:

alphaone
Aug 22, 2003, 01:33 AM
Ah...Here we go. These things (it looks like they're on the surface...over the ocean...hmmm...):

GeeYouEye
Aug 22, 2003, 01:52 AM
Since I didn't see the first trailer... all I can say is... wow. November 5 is a LONG way off, that's for sure.

BTW, that sadistic laugh about 15 seconds into it has got to be the epitome of evil laughter.

alphaone
Aug 22, 2003, 01:55 AM
/me goes and looks epitome up in the dictionary...

Ah yes I guess it would be the epitome of evil laughter.:D

bograt
Aug 22, 2003, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
[B]Yeah its cool.


eyeluvmyimac:
I don't get it... oh well...

And you could have edited your posts instead of back2back.

Good stuff anywya.


http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rv_img/photo_rev12.jpg

So the asian guy is not only good at fighting, but guns also? What can't he do?!?!

;)


I thought that guy was a machine? Or is that just his former employer (so as not to spoil it for others)

EDIT: Did I see that man that swears in French? My French swearing isn't very good yet, so I am waiting for the DVD release, then on come the subtitles and off to my massive Collins Robert dictionary to learn some choice phrases! PS - if anyone knows what he said - English or French please e-mail me at this address (steve_bruce_sheila@mac.com) Thanks in advance!

pmac933
Aug 22, 2003, 04:51 AM
I noticed from the clip that the Merovingian and Persephone are back in this movie. Also, the voice over is done by Mary Alice, who plays the Oracle in "Enter the Matrix."

For Bograt, in Reloaded, the Merovingian said "Don't you love the French language? I have sampled every language, French is my favorite. Fantastic language. Especially to curse with. Nom de dieu de putain de bordel de merde de saloperie de connard d'enculé de ta mère. It's like wiping your ass with silk, I love it."

bograt
Aug 22, 2003, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by pmac933
I noticed from the clip that the Merovingian and Persephone are back in this movie. Also, the voice over is done by Mary Alice, who plays the Oracle in "Enter the Matrix."

For Bograt, in Reloaded, the Merovingian said "Don't you love the French language? I have sampled every language, French is my favorite. Fantastic language. Especially to curse with. Nom de dieu de putain de bordel de merde de saloperie de connard d'enculé de ta mère. It's like wiping your ass with silk, I love it."

Thank you. I know the majority of these words. They definitely do sound better in French - now how do I fit this into a review of "Le Petit Prince"?;)

Dale Sorel
Aug 22, 2003, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by pmac933
Also, the voice over is done by Mary Alice...

Who, unfortunately, is no longer of this world :(

rhpenguin
Aug 22, 2003, 02:03 PM
well.. i dont know about you guys, but im stoked...

cant wait to see it

mymemory
Aug 22, 2003, 02:09 PM
What I could tell is that Sion is gonna be pretty **** up!

The movie is gonna be good.

MrMacMan
Aug 22, 2003, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by mymemory
What I could tell is that Sion is gonna be pretty **** up!

The movie is gonna be good.


Well didn't they basically say Zion was totally killed off?

(screw the people who didn't see it, everyone should have already)

I mean if I remember only the crew from that other ship survived and the main characters?

scem0
Aug 23, 2003, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by Dale Sorel
Who, unfortunately, is no longer of this world :(

Lots of disasters have happened to people associated with things involving the matrix.

Kind of scary...

scem0

hvfsl
Aug 23, 2003, 07:20 AM
Did I see that man that swears in French? My French swearing isn't very good yet, so I am waiting for the DVD release, then on come the subtitles and off to my massive Collins Robert dictionary to learn some choice phrases! PS - if anyone knows what he said - English or French please e-mail me at this address (steve_bruce_sheila@mac.com) Thanks in advance! [/B]

I know so many people that want to get the DVD just to know that, well it will come out in October in US.:D

Xero
Aug 25, 2003, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Well didn't they basically say Zion was totally killed off?

(screw the people who didn't see it, everyone should have already)

I mean if I remember only the crew from that other ship survived and the main characters?

no actually just all the other hovercrafts that were out patrolling, or whatever, were destroyed. the machines never actually fully busted into zion in Reloaded.

Durandal7
Aug 31, 2003, 06:45 PM
[Rampant speculation]

Q:Why did Neo seemingly stop the Sentinels?
A:He didn't stop them, the machines stopped the sentinels. You didn't think that the machines were stupid enough to kill their only chance of rebooting the matrix and stopping Smith did you?

Q:Why does Neo faint at the end?
A:Neo is trapped inside the Matrix after coming into contact with the source (this is confirmed) The blip in the trailer of him waking up is when he wakes up back inside the Matrix.

Q:Who were the past 'ones'?
A:The past ones are the Agents. They, like Neo, became trapped within the Matrix after coming into contact with the source. They willingly rebooted the Matrix and became "agents" of the system that they ended up preserving.

Q:Why is Smith such a bastard?
A:Smith is probably the most recent one. He has a bit of a nasty streak towards the other AI since he is understandably still pissed off over being duped. Unlike the ones before him Smith was already unbalanced when he was forced to reboot the Matrix and being forced to serve the AI has only helped his insanity.

Q:Will Neo come back out of the Matrix?
A:Yes, he still has a body to go back to.

Q:Will Neo just continue the cycle?
A:No, the cycle is out of whack due to the Smith factor.

Q:So what does happen?
A:Smith will most likely spread outside the Matrix even more. He has already infected Bane and now he will spread to the machines on the outside to exact revenge. Neo will be the only thing in his way and will save the Humans and the Machines in the process.

Q:What about Bane?
A:He will get in a scuff with Neo on board the Logos and will blind Neo in the process.

Q:Who will die in Revolutions?
A:The Wachowski Bros. have said repeatedly that Reloaded is about life and Revolutions is about death. Don't expect to see Trinity make it to the end credits.

Q:What will happen to the Matrix?
A:The true nature of the Matrix will be revealed to those inside it. They will be faced with the choice of staying inside or going into the real world. The Matrix Online videogame is set after Revolutions and invloves battles between humans who want to escape to the outside world (Zionists) and those who want to remain inside the Matrix. There are also Agents running around in the game. It is safe to assume that the AI back off to some degree by the end of Revolutions.

[\Rampant speculation]

Xero
Sep 1, 2003, 02:00 AM
that was some sweet rampant speculation :D but i see a few faults, besides you sounding completely sure about yourself!

fistly, i dont think the "agents = previous 'ones' " thing makes much sense. for one why would they all lose most of their powers from being the one previously. secondly, why would they be so surprised at neos powers at the end of the first movie. idk, they seem to oblivious and robotic to be previous superhuman neo-like ass kickers!

secondly, for some reason i dont see trinity dying, mainly cause she practically kicked the can in the second one.

thirdly, where in gods name did you pull the "neo will get blinded by bane" thing from?!?! im curious as to what leads you to believe this...?

and last but not least, i dont totally agree with your idea that the machines made those sentinels conk out at the end of reloaded when neo put his hand up. if the machines had caused that, then id think the sentinels would just stop and turn around or something. i think neo definitely had some sort of direct effect on the shutdown of those sentinels. also you didnt mention that he faints RIGHT after he stops those sentinels, so those two things have to tie into each other somehow.

just some food for thought to keep our minds busy until the movie finally comes out. :)

Durandal7
Sep 1, 2003, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by Xero
that was some sweet rampant speculation :D but i see a few faults, besides you sounding completely sure about yourself!

fistly, i dont think the "agents = previous 'ones' " thing makes much sense. for one why would they all lose most of their powers from being the one previously. secondly, why would they be so surprised at neos powers at the end of the first movie. idk, they seem to oblivious and robotic to be previous superhuman neo-like ass kickers!

secondly, for some reason i dont see trinity dying, mainly cause she practically kicked the can in the second one.

thirdly, where in gods name did you pull the "neo will get blinded by bane" thing from?!?! im curious as to what leads you to believe this...?

and last but not least, i dont totally agree with your idea that the machines made those sentinels conk out at the end of reloaded when neo put his hand up. if the machines had caused that, then id think the sentinels would just stop and turn around or something. i think neo definitely had some sort of direct effect on the shutdown of those sentinels. also you didnt mention that he faints RIGHT after he stops those sentinels, so those two things have to tie into each other somehow.

just some food for thought to keep our minds busy until the movie finally comes out. :)
Most of the Agent's former powers would have been regulated. The system does not want to completly impede the new One from completing it's task nor does it need the possibility of a Smith situation arising. The Agents were regulated to prevent someone like Smith from coming along, Neo leaping into Smith and changing him was something unforseen which is why the Agents look so startled. It's possible that they were a little surprised that Neo was the One and may not have been expecting it. If you remember after they realise that Neo is the One they just seem more annoyed then anything and Smith makes remarks like "it's happening just like before." The concept of the One was not new to them at all.

Each One ends up willingly reboting the Matrix. In the process they meet the Source and get sucked into the Matrix.. It is very likely that their bodies outside are destroyed so they are forever in the Matrix. When they reboot the Matrix they must have a damn compelling reason to do so considering they are willing to essentially betray the human race. This reason may be so compelling that they want to see the process continue so the system integrates them into a niche where they can monitor and move things along for the next One. The solution? Make them an Agent.

The Agents are in a predicament, they lost their humanity when they came into the contact with the Source. They are not truly Human nor are they truly AI and have some contempt for both. Smith is simply the extreme of all the Agent's views towards Humans and their AI overlords.

I'm only basing my comment on Trinity on the Wachowski Bros' Life/Death comment. They might spring for the happy ending but someone will die by the end of Revolutions.

I also think that annoying kid who pesters Neo in Reloaded will die.

The Neo/Bane thing is based on observations from the trailer that show
A) Neo struggling with Bane holding one of those electrical guns
B) Scenes from the final Zion battle that show Neo wearing a blindfold

Neo and the Sentinels, we'll just have to wait and see on that one, eh? ;)

More rampant speculation:
The train pulling up into the station has a sign on the front that says "Loop." Maybe Neo wakes up in the train station and is expected to board the train and reboot the Matrix, completing the "loop."

job
Sep 1, 2003, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Durandal7
Most of the Agent's former powers would have been regulated. The system does not want to completly impede the new One from completing it's task nor does it need the possibility of a Smith situation arising.

I was under the impression that Smith himself is/was an anomaly. I didn't think that there were other 'Smiths' opposing all the other Ones that had come before. As such, Smith's existance made [the current] Neo's situation different.

Also, where do you see Neo in a blindfold? I did a frame-by-frame and didn't see anything.

Durandal7
Sep 1, 2003, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by job
I was under the impression that Smith himself is/was an anomaly. I didn't think that there were other 'Smiths' opposing all the other Ones that had come before. As such, Smith's existance made [the current] Neo's situation different.

Also, where do you see Neo in a blindfold? I did a frame-by-frame and didn't see anything.

Smith is an anomaly and he is what makes Neo's situation different. As I said, the system did not forsee that Smith would be so damn crazy or that Neo would change Smith's code. If it weren't for Smith then the former Ones would be able to prod the new One along and continue the cycle.

Also, perhaps the names are clues. All of the Agents have common "everyman" last names like Smith, Brown or Thompson. Sort of like Anderson. Also, it doesn't seem a coincidence that the only characters within the Matrix to be assigned last names have been Neo and the Agents.

Neo Blindfolded:

job
Sep 1, 2003, 06:02 PM
Seems logical enough.

I still don't think that is Neo blindfolded though. I'm sure there are hundreds, if not thousands of caucasian males with black hair in Zion. :p ;)

Xero
Sep 2, 2003, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by Durandal7
Smith is an anomaly and he is what makes Neo's situation different. As I said, the system did not forsee that Smith would be so damn crazy or that Neo would change Smith's code. If it weren't for Smith then the former Ones would be able to prod the new One along and continue the cycle.

Also, perhaps the names are clues. All of the Agents have common "everyman" last names like Smith, Brown or Thompson. Sort of like Anderson. Also, it doesn't seem a coincidence that the only characters within the Matrix to be assigned last names have been Neo and the Agents.

Neo Blindfolded:

so, basically what you (and i for that matter) are trying to say, is the the third movie is quite simply going to rock incredibly large amounts of our worlds. :D

Durandal7
Sep 25, 2003, 09:52 PM
How about that machine mainframe? Kind of a mechanical eye of sauron thing going on...

On another note, I have some unfinished SFX shots from Revolutions and the untextured sentinels entering Zion bear a striking resemblence to sperm cells.

Xero
Sep 25, 2003, 11:54 PM
yeah im downloading the new theatrical trailer and will proceed to ***** a big fat brick when its finished.:eek:

EDIT: now that you mention it, your very right about the sperm thing, becasue the outer walls of Zion look like a freaking egg too, weird!

P-Worm
Sep 26, 2003, 12:29 PM
I can't get the downloads to work all the way.

P-Worm

000111one111000
Sep 26, 2003, 12:46 PM
How many of you played "Enter The Matrix?"

I'm looking forward to see what comes from some of the things said in the game. Like the explanation of why The Oracle is different, why she was changed, etc.

And if you haven't played the game, nor plan to, just give me the word and I'll spill the beans for you and bring you up to date on the "Enter The Matrix" part of the story. :)

enoch

P-Worm
Sep 26, 2003, 12:48 PM
I want to play the game so bad, but my PS2 is broken. Maybe I can play it at a friends house, I hear that it is rather short.

P-Worm

000111one111000
Sep 26, 2003, 12:55 PM
Yeah, the actual game is a bit short. The first time I beat the game with Niobe, I didn't actually realize it was over. Until the credits started running, hehe.

But the hour of new footage makes up for it, as far as I'm concerned.

monkeydo_jb
Sep 26, 2003, 01:02 PM
I agree that Neo gets blinded somehow. You can see the blindfold
in the attached picture and some blood around it. Sorry the file is
so big, but I'm at work and had to manage w/paint :eek:


From the trailer, I gather that Neo does indeed possess some sort
of power outside of the Matrix (e.g. here where he's holding his
hand out then it shows a bunch of sentinals blow up, and also
when Bane tells him to look past the flesh and he sees the fiery
form of Smith).


http://www.sveltegeek.com/images/neoblinded.bmp



-jeff

Freg3000
Sep 26, 2003, 03:25 PM
I just want to say that the new trailer rocks! I can't wait until 11-05. :)

Durandal7
Sep 26, 2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Xero
EDIT: now that you mention it, your very right about the sperm thing, becasue the outer walls of Zion look like a freaking egg too, weird!

Well, here's what the sentinels look like in some of the early SFX clips I have.