Halo 3 debut larger than iphone? [Archive]

bartelby

Sep 25, 2007, 09:10 AM

Both are consumer products.

I'm talking about size in $$, not number of units..

Yes, but there are millions more spotty 14 year olds who can afford a game compared to a phone.

It's a pointless comparision. You can say that the AirBus A380 ha a larger debut than Halo 3.

BoyBach

Sep 25, 2007, 09:14 AM

Both are consumer products.

I'm talking about size in $$, not number of units..

The one costs $50ish.

The other cost $600 at launch.

It really isn't something that you can compare.

:confused:

runplaysleeprun

Sep 25, 2007, 09:14 AM

bogman12

Sep 25, 2007, 09:15 AM

Yes, but there are millions more spotty 14 year olds who can afford a game compared to a phone.

It's a pointless comparision. You can say that the AirBus A380 ha a larger debut than Halo 3.

AirBus's is targeted towards corporations... shouldn't even come into conversations here.

Halo 3 and iphone are both mainstream consumer products.. good for the apple fanbois to see that it's not just their beloved apple that can steal all the spotlight with a product launch.

twoodcc

Sep 25, 2007, 09:15 AM

and where is your source?

bartelby

Sep 25, 2007, 09:18 AM

AirBus's is targeted towards corporations... shouldn't even come into conversations here.

Halo 3 and iphone are both mainstream consumer products.. good for the apple fanbois to see that it's not just their beloved apple that can steal all the spotlight with a product launch.

But if you've got the money you could order one from Airbus.
Like I said, rediculous comparisons.

bogman12

Sep 25, 2007, 09:20 AM

But if you've got the money you could order one from Airbus.
Like I said, rediculous comparisons.

How many people in the world has the money and the means to operate an AirBus? Ridiculous hypothetical situation.

koobcamuk

Sep 25, 2007, 09:20 AM

It's a pointless comparision. You can say that the AirBus A380 ha a larger debut than Halo 3.

Ha. Awesome.

I really don't get this thread. "larger" is the wrong adjective to use anyway.

BoyBach

Sep 25, 2007, 09:22 AM

Oh come on, I see what he's saying.

Both have high techie/"nerd" appeal. Both are long-awaited and have their fanboys.

maybe not a great comparison, but there is some common ground.

its not quite apples vs oranges, its more like oranges vs. tangerines. pretty close.

They're completely different products competing in completely different markets.

iPhone vs. Nokia N series - yes!

Halo 3 vs. GTA IV - yes!

iPhone vs. Halo 3 - not a chance!

bartelby

Sep 25, 2007, 09:22 AM

How many people in the world has the money and the means to operate an AirBus? Ridiculous hypothetical situation.

Also a pointless comparison, a bit like this thread.

bogman12

Sep 25, 2007, 09:24 AM

They're completely different products competing in completely different markets.

The same kind of people who camped outside for an iphone (which was stupid by the way..) are the same type of people who would be interested in Halo 3.

If I was to draw a Venn diagram for you indicating purchaser of either product, then the area of overlap for the two would be huge.

zioxide

Sep 25, 2007, 09:29 AM

They're both extremely overrated.

puckhead193

Sep 25, 2007, 09:33 AM

i can see where the OP is coming from... I don't know how many 40-50 years who have an iphone but play xbox... Its something would be interesting to see if you had the correct resources.

maberga29

Sep 25, 2007, 09:33 AM

iPhone. Consider hype among professionals in the market for a smartphone + techie teens + pompus rich peeps wanting the latest thing. I think this exceeds the relatively isolated -- though intense -- hype among gamers for Halo 3.

BoyBach

Sep 25, 2007, 09:41 AM

The same kind of people who camped outside for an iphone (which was stupid by the way..) are the same type of people who would be interested in Halo 3.

If I was to draw a Venn diagram for you indicating purchaser of either product, then the area of overlap for the two would be huge.

I'm sure you could draw a Venn diagram highlighting that. And the same people are interested in the same jeans, shampoo and chewing gum. Your point is?

Marketeers and sales people go after the same crowd all the time, but they don't compare their sales with a product when it's in a completely different price range/market. Bentley Cars don't think to themselves, "Wrigleys sell millions of chewing gums every month, we should be selling millions of cars to those same people."

It really is apples and oranges...

Abstract

Sep 25, 2007, 09:47 AM

They're completely different products competing in completely different markets.

iPhone vs. Nokia N series - yes!

Halo 3 vs. GTA IV - yes!

iPhone vs. Halo 3 - not a chance!

Big Macs outsold them all!

jaydub

Sep 25, 2007, 10:12 AM

The box that the halo 3 disc comes in is larger than an iPhone.

But the box the iPhone comes in is larger than a halo 3 box... but you need an xbox360 to .... nevermind.

twoodcc

Sep 25, 2007, 10:16 AM

I still haven't seen a source.

Halo 3 had pre-orders, iPhone didn't. This is a huge difference

Dagless

Sep 25, 2007, 10:17 AM

What?

How old is the OP?

bogman12

Sep 25, 2007, 10:37 AM

I'm sure you could draw a Venn diagram highlighting that. And the same people are interested in the same jeans, shampoo and chewing gum. Your point is?

Marketeers and sales people go after the same crowd all the time, but they don't compare their sales with a product when it's in a completely different price range/market. Bentley Cars don't think to themselves, "Wrigleys sell millions of chewing gums every month, we should be selling millions of cars to those same people."

It really is apples and oranges...

the price of the two products are close enough to be considered apples to apples. A halo 3 kit ranging from $60 to $400 is only slightly more affordable than an a $600 phone. Even at $600, it is not so high that these illogical ppl can't put the phone on their credit card and pay it off month by month(or not pay it off). Did you see the ppl who waited in line for the iphone? about the same type of nerds as the ones who waited for halo 3.. a little bit more refined nerds perhaps..

Your comparison of chewing gum vs cars is nothing like a halo package that ranges from $60 to $400 vs iphone for $400-$600.

just a little tongue n' cheek for all the MS haters out there. Just when you're all cocky that apple pulled off some "second coming of christ" type of release with the iphone, MS manages even a larger world wide release.

twoodcc

Sep 25, 2007, 10:46 AM

the price of the two products are close enough to be considered apples to apples. A halo 3 kit ranging from $60 to $400 is only slightly more affordable than an a $600 phone. Even at $600, it is not so high that these illogical ppl can't put the phone on their credit card and pay it off month by month(or not pay it off). Did you see the ppl who waited in line for the iphone? about the same type of nerds as the ones who waited for halo 3.. a little bit more refined nerds perhaps..

Your comparison of chewing gum vs cars is nothing like a halo package that ranges from $60 to $400 vs iphone for $400-$600.

just a little tongue n' cheek for all the MS haters out there. Just when you're all cocky that apple pulled off some "second coming of christ" type of release with the iphone, MS manages even a larger world wide release.

dude, your in the wrong place.

First, halo 3 does not cost $400.

Second, halo 3 had preorders, iPhone didn't, which throws out the whole comparison.

And finally, where is your source?

squeeks

Sep 25, 2007, 10:48 AM

They're both extremely overrated.

well, i dont know about iphone...but halo 3 is

my brother has had halo3 since saturday (local video game store got it in early and decided to give it to all of their pre-order customers:D) it it looks just like halo2 with a few little visual elements added here and there, nothing compared to gears of war

BoyBach

Sep 25, 2007, 10:49 AM

the price of the two products are close enough to be considered apples to apples. A halo 3 kit ranging from $60 to $400 is only slightly more affordable than an a $600 phone. Even at $600, it is not so high that these illogical ppl can't put the phone on their credit card and pay it off month by month(or not pay it off). Did you see the ppl who waited in line for the iphone? about the same type of nerds as the ones who waited for halo 3.. a little bit more refined nerds perhaps..

Your comparison of chewing gum vs cars is nothing like a halo package that ranges from $60 to $400 vs iphone for $400-$600.

And now you change the rules from the game vs. the iPhone to the console plus the game vs. the iPhone.

:rolleyes:

Let me have another go. What may have happened:

Bungie: "Thank ******* that's done. Now we can do something completely different."

Microsoft: "Thank ******* that's done. Maybe it'll help us shift an extra 500,000 to 1 million Xbox 360 units. Hopefully, they'll make another Halo..."

What probably didn't happen:

Bungie: "I wonder how the Halo 3 launch'll compare to the iPhones?"

Microsoft: "Halo 3 - that'll show Steve Jobs and his iPhone!"

bogman12

Sep 25, 2007, 10:49 AM

dude, your in the wrong place.

First, halo 3 does not cost $400.

Second, halo 3 had preorders, iPhone didn't, which throws out the whole comparison.

And finally, where is your source?

Dude, they are selling a Halo 3 themed XBOX console.. for $399..

A stupid package with a halo helmet for $130

and finally a barebone game in a normal box for $60..

What probably didn't happen:

Bungie: "I wonder how the Halo 3 launch'll compare to the iPhones?"

Microsoft: "Halo 3 - that'll show Steve Jobs and his iPhone!"

Sure it could.. in the minds of the brainwashed fanbois, all the attention apple has been getting recently would suggest to them that apple is the new dominating force in the industry.. nothing like a little stupid video game to put the iphone release into perspective.

Dagless

Sep 25, 2007, 10:53 AM

Microsoft: "Halo 3 - that'll show Steve Jobs and his iPhone!"

I don't normally laugh on forums, but ROFL! I'm picturing sinister lighting and a close up shot of Bill saying that.

This thread is so laughable.

Heys! there are more iPods sold than Xboxs!

And OP - Wii is outselling 360. If that rattles your cage ;)

bogman12

Sep 25, 2007, 10:56 AM

I don't normally laugh on forums, but ROFL! I'm picturing sinister lighting and a close up shot of Bill saying that.

This thread is so laughable.

Heys! there are more iPods sold than Xboxs!

And OP - Wii is outselling 360. If that rattles your cage ;)

I'm talking strictly about the size of a "release". not the sustainability of a particular product.

takao

Sep 25, 2007, 11:05 AM

ridiculous

one is a company entering a complete new market for them and the other company is release the second sequal to a popular video game franchise (which many consider overrated)

bogman12

Sep 25, 2007, 11:07 AM

ridiculous

one is a company entering a complete new market for them and the other company is release the second sequal to a popular video game franchise (which many consider overrated)

Then what you're saying is that it is even more impressive that MS was able to gear up this much hype for a 3rd sequel to a video game that is considered overrated.

twoodcc

Sep 25, 2007, 12:55 PM

Dude, they are selling a Halo 3 themed XBOX console.. for $399..

A stupid package with a halo helmet for $130

and finally a barebone game in a normal box for $60...

Last I checked halo 3 is a game, not a console. Sorry Charlie, but you lose. Still no source? What do you have to say about preorders, since you think you have an answer for everything?

squeeks

Sep 25, 2007, 01:09 PM

Dude, they are selling a Halo 3 themed XBOX console.. for $399..

which DOSENT EVEN COME WITH THE GAME

which is hilarious

twoodcc

Sep 25, 2007, 01:24 PM

which DOSENT EVEN COME WITH THE GAME

which is hilarious

Haha! Thanks for that. Now maybe he'll craw back to his ms forums

Dagless

Sep 25, 2007, 01:40 PM

Haha! Thanks for that. Now maybe he'll craw back to his ms forums

Personally I can imagine someone posting this kind of topic, but to then harp about it trying desperately to make a point instead of just hiding away is brilliant. This thread must not die.

Thread 4237473 might be as infamous as 500.

bogman12

Sep 25, 2007, 02:00 PM

rag: looks like I've got you hooked on to this topic.. but then again, with 10,000 posts on this forum, you'd get hooked onto anything.

Counterfit

Sep 25, 2007, 02:24 PM

Yeah, this thread is just like heroin to all us Apple fanbois. Who the hell spells it that way? Avril Lavigne?

Sure it could.. in the minds of the brainwashed fanbois, all the attention apple has been getting recently would suggest to them that apple is the new dominating force in the industry.. nothing like a little stupid video game to put the iphone release into perspective.

Dominating force in what industry? It certainly isn't console games (or video games at all for that matter. They make, what, 4*?)

*: Chess, plus Solitaire, Brick, and the music quiz on iPods.

ravenvii

Sep 25, 2007, 02:28 PM

What?

How old is the OP?

Sounds 13.

Epic failure.

mactastic

Sep 25, 2007, 02:53 PM

Larger than iPhone? Maybe. But is it larger than Jesus?

Or to quote Lyle Lovett "It's not big, it's large."

r1ch4rd

Sep 25, 2007, 03:33 PM

This is so stupid that I don't even know why I am bothering...

Another point you fail to consider is that people own more than one xbox360 game but usually only one phone. I wouldn't buy an iPhone on a whim but I might with Halo 3.

I am much more likely to buy Halo 3 because it is cheap and it might be worth a laugh but I would much prefer to have a nice new phone (iPhone or otherwise)

bogman12

Sep 25, 2007, 03:41 PM

Larger than iPhone? Maybe. But is it larger than Jesus?

Or to quote Lyle Lovett "It's not big, it's large."

Jesus? Jesus who?

bogman12

Sep 25, 2007, 03:42 PM

This is so stupid that I don't even know why I am bothering...

Welcome to the thread rich. You are officially one of the "guys".

bartelby

Sep 25, 2007, 03:45 PM

Jesus? Jesus who?

This guy (http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=51397)!

chrisdazzo

Sep 25, 2007, 03:50 PM

Halo 3 looks good, but I think it has been hyped way too much. Honestly, with the absence of an XBox360 in my possession, I am really looking forward to A. playing Halo 3 on my friend's 360 this afternoon and B. Microsoft's release of the creative license or whatever to allow MacSoft to port Halo 2 to OS X. :D

And the iPhone... I don't know, you can't really compare it to Halo 3... But I'd say the hype was just a bit larger. The iPhone was better than expected, so I'm really hoping Halo 3 (especially the multiplayer experience) is as good as it was chalked up to be.

twoodcc

Sep 25, 2007, 04:16 PM

Jesus? Jesus who?

ha, you just keep digging your hole deeper.

go take a philosophy course before you start one of these again, please

bogman12

Sep 25, 2007, 05:27 PM

ha, you just keep digging your hole deeper.

go take a philosophy course before you start one of these again, please

ok boss

runplaysleeprun

Sep 25, 2007, 08:44 PM

ha, you just keep digging your hole deeper.

go take a philosophy course before you start one of these again, please

I took a philosophy course, and I don't remember hearing about that fellow.

here's indisputable proof (ha! nothing is indisputable on an internet forum), he's not even listed on Wikipedia's Philosophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy) page

bousozoku

Sep 25, 2007, 10:31 PM

Cassie

Sep 25, 2007, 11:03 PM

colocolo

Sep 25, 2007, 11:05 PM

Note that he said package, like this one:

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=020076

It happens to be $399.99

Which, as noted in the page, does not come with the game...:D

Its a Halo 3 Limited Edition Xbox 360, not a package actually.

Ok, I hope that's my whole contribution to this thread. I'll sit this one out and just try to enjoy the sheer nonsense of it without being caught up in the crossfire.

CorvusCamenarum

Sep 25, 2007, 11:31 PM

Note that he said package, like this one:

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=020076

It happens to be $399.99

My fiancee works there; she had to work the midnight release and she said it was absolutely insane. They took 700+ reserve orders and they're sold out now. She didn't get it until 4am yesterday.

bousozoku

Sep 25, 2007, 11:36 PM

Which, as noted in the page, does not come with the game...:D

Its a Halo 3 Limited Edition Xbox 360, not a package actually.

Ok, I hope that's my whole contribution to this thread. I'll sit this one out and just try to enjoy the sheer nonsense of it without being caught up in the crossfire.

It is a package. It has a box and everything. ;) Besides, I've seen several nutso people buying those today.

My fiancee works there; she had to work the midnight release and she said it was absolutely insane. They took 700+ reserve orders and they're sold out now. She didn't get it until 4am yesterday.

The people at the local store were telling me how crazy it was. I'm sure the mall people love having midnight sales, too.

yg17

Sep 26, 2007, 12:25 AM

Sounds 13.

Epic failure.

And epic lulz at this thread!

jaydub

Sep 26, 2007, 12:26 AM

And epic lulz at this thread!

haha epic lulz

lolrus!

Abstract

Sep 26, 2007, 01:18 AM

Microsoft: "Halo 3 - that'll show Steve Jobs and his iPhone!"

I don't normally laugh on forums, but ROFL!

Agreed. :)

Sounds 13.

Epic failure.

Don't say that. He's trying very very hard to convince us that he has a point. ;)

JWFerne

Sep 26, 2007, 01:41 AM

I'm going to walk in a game store in about one week, take my time and check out all the interesting games. I'll probably joke around a bit with the manager of the store and then proceed to buy a used copy of Halo 3.

Thank you in advance to the hard core gamers who stayed up until 4am for the initial distribution of the game. I appreciate your efforts to power through the game and promptly sell their copy to a local game store soon. Dunno what I'd do without you :D

Abstract

Sep 26, 2007, 01:52 AM

JWFerne

Sep 26, 2007, 02:12 AM

You're going to buy Halo 3? Have you even considered buying an iPhone instead of Halo?

it's in my signature :)

BoyBach

Sep 26, 2007, 05:54 AM

Ok, I hope that's my whole contribution to this thread. I'll sit this one out and just try to enjoy the sheer nonsense of it without being caught up in the crossfire.

Please stay and keep this thread going just a little longer!

The nonsense is quietly amusing.

:)

twoodcc

Sep 26, 2007, 06:55 AM

I took a philosophy course, and I don't remember hearing about that fellow.

here's indisputable proof (ha! nothing is indisputable on an internet forum), he's not even listed on Wikipedia's Philosophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy) page

I was referring to learning how to make an argument