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Moses Martiny reports that this Appleinsider thread (http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=000534&p=1) discusses features from 10.2 (6B23)
Of note, finder windows open by scaling the contents of the opening window and carbon apps (such as IE) support anti-aliased text.
Pictures/Movies are available in various links in the thread... though some have already been pulled.
Mr. Anderson
Apr 7, 2002, 01:35 PM
Well, all the movies are gone, all I get when I go there is graphic and at the bottom, in almost invisible text 'Forbidden - You do not have permission to access / on this server'. The only thing left is a screen shot of a possible antialiased text for IE on OSX.2 Oh, well. At least something got out cause it was shut down fast. Should mean somethings coming soon.
http://www.stanford.edu/~zpincus/10.2/
DaveGee
Apr 7, 2002, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by dukestreet
Should mean somethings coming soon.
Iffin 'soon' means MWNY then yep it'll be out soon... ;)
D
Hemingray
Apr 7, 2002, 02:41 PM
If what they say is true about 10.2's speed even on the old systems (like my G4 400)... this will allow me to hold out for whenever the hell the G5 comes out. :)
kishba
Apr 7, 2002, 02:42 PM
woot!!!
i see the "search" tool bar i've been wanting!!!
Mr. Anderson
Apr 7, 2002, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by DaveGee
Iffin 'soon' means MWNY then yep it'll be out soon... ;)
Iffin? Where y'all from, anyway?
For me, sooner would be WWDC on May 6th. It makes more sense. But if not, then definitely MWNY.
kishba
Apr 7, 2002, 03:01 PM
oh boy... my birthday is on may 7... if apple released this on may 6 it would be my best b-day gift ever!!!
it'd be even better if steve hand delivered the update to me the next day (he does have that nice jet--travel wouldn't be an issue :) )
Rower_CPU
Apr 7, 2002, 03:54 PM
It better be faster on G3 based systems...
Features aside, I want performance. Snappy!!!
buffsldr
Apr 7, 2002, 06:36 PM
Gentlemen, this looks very smooth. It feels good to be part of the revolution... I cant wait until I get my laptop. Iffin people will watch, i will show them the power of X. Sheeeeeeooooooooot.
j763
Apr 7, 2002, 07:21 PM
what's with this pic?? http://www.stanford.edu/~zpincus/10.2/3.jpg
Rower_CPU
Apr 7, 2002, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by j763
what's with this pic?? http://www.stanford.edu/~zpincus/10.2/3.jpg
It's a still shot of the Applications folder opening with the scale effect.
theranch
Apr 7, 2002, 09:46 PM
It does look snappy and smooth but it is on a Dual 1ghz machine! I would hope that it is released before MWNY since that is when the G5 in the new tower will be unveiled(crosses fingers).
Catfish_Man
Apr 7, 2002, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by theranch
It does look snappy and smooth but it is on a Dual 1ghz machine! I would hope that it is released before MWNY since that is when the G5 in the new tower will be unveiled(crosses fingers).
I doubt that, I'm expecting a new motherboard for the G4 (DDR, FireWire2, USB2, ATA100 or higher). The 133MHz bus is crippling the current G4 (ever seen what happens when you hook PC133 memory to a Pentium 4? Not a pretty sight.), FireWire 2 has been approved, USB2 is out, and ATA100 and 133 are out, so there's nothing really stopping them from adding those (unless it's even more difficult than I think it is to change the bus a processor supports). Look for a spiffy G4 at MWNY and the G5 at MWSF (hopefully it'll have an on chip memory controller like the Hammer).
Rocketman
Apr 8, 2002, 12:02 AM
I went to an Apple dealer and played with a G4-800 with OSX. I booted classic which was not previously booted then ran a system information. It showed 137 mhz estimated system speed. So the emulator is fairly slow.
Rocketman
Beej
Apr 8, 2002, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by kishba
woot!!!
i see the "search" tool bar i've been wanting!!! I'm sorry, but you can't just say woot!
You have to do it with zeros, and, if at all possible, with three exclamation marks (which you did, well done,) and in bold, like this:
w00t!!!
I'm sorry, but you can't just go around using words like "w00t" without knowing how to use them properly. :D
Sorry, a little off topic there... ;)
Beej
Apr 8, 2002, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by Rocketman
I went to an Apple dealer and played with a G4-800 with OSX. I booted classic which was not previously booted then ran a system information. It showed 137 mhz estimated system speed. So the emulator is fairly slow.Eh? What? What showed 137 MHz estimated system speed? What emulator? I'm confuzzled.
alex_ant
Apr 8, 2002, 03:27 AM
If it's true that 10.2 will feature Cocoa-like antialiased fonts in all Carbon applications (rawk!), then it looks like OmniWeb is as good as dead...
Alex
mac15
Apr 8, 2002, 04:44 AM
But it does look cool I just wanna get OS X
I don't even have it yet but it is on a dual 1GHZ system they could have used it on a G3 or something
kishba
Apr 8, 2002, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by Beej
I'm sorry, but you can't just say woot!
You have to do it with zeros, and, if at all possible, with three exclamation marks (which you did, well done,) and in bold, like this:
w00t!!!
I'm sorry, but you can't just go around using words like "w00t" without knowing how to use them properly. :D
Sorry, a little off topic there... ;)
in my excitment my fingers didn't reach the zeros
sorry about that :) ( w00t!!! )
crassusad44
Apr 8, 2002, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by kishba
oh boy... my birthday is on may 7... if apple released this on may 6 it would be my best b-day gift ever!!!
it'd be even better if steve hand delivered the update to me the next day (he does have that nice jet--travel wouldn't be an issue :) )
Hey, my birthday is also May 7th! My 21st btw... Now, bring OS 10.2 on.... :D
Mr. Anderson
Apr 8, 2002, 09:14 AM
Just out of curiosity, we're all assuming that OSX.2 is going to be a free upgrade, right? I certainly hope Apple doesn't expect us to shell out the standard $79.00 or what ever for this.
rustypixel
Apr 8, 2002, 01:05 PM
Man, this whole waiting game is nerve wracking! Will there be a G5? Will the update/upgrade to OS X run faster? Will it be free? Will it all come about at MWNY? Will Apple ever release an AFFORDABLE 19" flat screen for those of us that cannot afford the 23"? :confused: Too much to ponder. Back to Carracho for me...
kishba
Apr 8, 2002, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by crassusad44
Hey, my birthday is also May 7th! My 21st btw... Now, bring OS 10.2 on.... :D
it'll be my 17 b-day... hopefully i'll be able to get time to take my road test & get my license... i've been a little bit lazy about that...
i also hope to get a real chair for my desk...
10.2 would just be icing on my cake :)
crassusad44
Apr 9, 2002, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by kishba
10.2 would just be icing on my cake :)
But, what a nice icing.... :p :)
Buggy
Apr 9, 2002, 05:14 AM
I have posted this before... But I need to add to Duke's assertion that apple should not expect us to pay for OS10.2
OSX 10.0 claimed that it networked with legacy systems such as windows NT. It only half does... only for carbon apps.
OSX10.1 claimed that it improved its networking and claimed again that it networks with legacy systems.... It still doesn't
It has been a year and OSX in any version does not network with NT, even though you can restart the very same machine on the very same network into OS9 and it will work seemlessly.
If they charge for this upgrade... there are going to be some VERY pissed off IT managers. Especially in print houses where they have custom software that is still classic and set up for NT. The print industry that gave birth to Apple has been ignored by apple in the video generation.
this is my 2 cents...
not my $99 upgrade.
Taft
Apr 9, 2002, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Buggy
OSX 10.0 claimed that it networked with legacy systems such as windows NT. It only half does... only for carbon apps.
OSX10.1 claimed that it improved its networking and claimed again that it networks with legacy systems.... It still doesn't
It has been a year and OSX in any version does not network with NT, even though you can restart the very same machine on the very same network into OS9 and it will work seemlessly.
I agree that you shouldn't have to pay for the upgrade, but I've never had any problem connecting to Windows machines.
Have you ever tried Samba? As in Finder->Go->Connect To Server
then enter smb:\\WindowsServer\sharename
Or are you complaining that OS X won't see windows shares by default? Or that authentication against NT machines doesn't work. Could you clarify?
Matthew
My friend has NT and we can network fine, i'm not sure what the problem is.
Apple tech support have an article about connecting to smb go take a look
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Decimal Dave
Apr 10, 2002, 07:56 PM
This is something that could seriously slow the migration to OS X at my company. All of our Appleshare servers are NT-based, and the OS X finder crashes when accessing any one of them. Using SMB is not an option because it introduces security problems due to the way our network is configured.
Buggy
Apr 11, 2002, 03:21 AM
You can network through Samba. It is not very "mac" like but it works just fine.
It is with classic that the problems occur.
You can not AFP log onto a NT server without the crashing. It will stay there for a bit but after working throught the files it will crash the finder.
Plus in no way should you try and open a file from within a classic app or save to a NT disk from a classic app. Crashes OS9.
Samba shares doe not crash but you can not see a samba share through a classic apps menus (eg save, open or link)
The linking is one of the most crucial problems. Since pagemaker and Quarks Express are file linking documens and are both classic then anyone who works with either of these programs can not use OSX because you can not link through Classic in Samba.
InDesign works fine. I have been experimenting with it and as soon as I get Photoshop then I won't have to worry about AFP. .. We right now can't afford to buy all new licences or Photoshop, Illustrator and inDesign for the whole work site!!!!
Your friends that are Networking with NT may only be sharing a couple of machines. We have well over 300 on our server. From all reports the problems increase as the number of computers increase.
Also if they are not doing any Linking through classic then they won't experiance the same problems.
Or if they are just file sharing then they most likely will not experiance the problems.
Apple has acknowledge that there is a problem, but they have not explained when and or if it wil be fixed..... only that they are aware of it.
Seriously check out Apple.com - discussions - OSX - networking and the web - "Finder crash when browsing on NT"
If you or any of your friends can solve this problem then post the answer!!!!
There have been very sklled users trying to solve this for over a year. No solution just temp fixes.
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