Dual 2GHz G5's to Ship?

[MacRumors]

At least two users have had their credit cards charged for their Dual 2.0GHz G5 orders with one claim from an Apple representative that they will start to ship "on Thursday or Friday", which would bring Apple's shipments in just under the (self-imposed) wire.

Apple originally declared that PowerMacs would ship in August, and reiterated (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/08/20030809162410.shtml) this claim earlier this month.

There have been multiple sightings of PowerMac G5 1.6GHz and 1.8GHz machines across the country at Apple stores and CompUSAs. Supplies of these machines appear to be solidifying.

[arn]

Note, if anyone gets one...

we are all anxiously awaiting more benchmarks.

Please benchmark it with PS7Bench (best we got so far) with the new Photoshop patch....

and post 'em or send 'em on

webmaster@macrumors.com

arn

[Tiauguinho]

Im getting anxious for their coming!!! Ever since ive tried one, its without any doubt the fastest computer that I ever seen or used. And its so beatifull!

[MattG]

BRING EM ON!!!!

[esheep2001]

I had an unposted transaction on my CC for a few days, big enough to obviously be from Apple. I checked today and it had disappeared and the money had not been charged :-(

I called Apple and they said that it probably needs re-authorising and that there wasn't a problem. Shipping is still on target for before the 1st Sep or before.

Personally I'm not convinced. If they requested the money then surely they should have been in a position to ship or at least put my order into being prepped for shipping. I reckon the rumours with problems could be true and I don't expect to see my system for a few more weeks.

I'm an edu customer BTW.

A couple of other problems have put a bit of a downer on the G5 too. I was planning to run VPC and finally dump the PC I use. Well we all know what's happening there. I expect M$ to have long fingers to pull out.

Also, my MOTU PCI-324 card won't work because of the new PCI-X standard. MOTU are prepping a new card (424) but are only allowing existing 424 customers to upgrade, despite my break out boxes working fine with the 424 :-( Not only that but they won't even sell the new 424's on their own!

If anyone's interested there's a petition going at
http://www.petitiononline.com/MOTU324/petition.html

Behaviour such as this is going to really hurt Apple and G5 sales so go sign it if you want to help out.

e.

[MattG]

I just checked my credit card and my order status...bleh...nothing's changed. Mine's not slated to ship until 9/2 though. I'ma keep checking throughout the rest of the week!

[cb911]

so a few Apple stores have the 1.6 & 1.8GHz models in? i haven't been to my closest Apple re-seller yet, but i wonder when we'll get any G5s down here? :confused:

[WackyM]

I was planning on waiting for an updated 15, but it looks like I got convinced to get the new G5 desktop. Played with one at the store and it just blew my pants off. I placed a CTO for a 1.8 GHz machine, and it says that it will be shipped in 4 to 6 weeks!!! Ah well, I hope it'll ship with Panther and bluetooth kb and mouse :D

[trianglejuice]

Does anyone know when the G5 DP 2 GZh will ship in Europe? Please let me know...

TJ.

[Brother Mugga]

Shucks (as we don't say over here in Britain).

I was one of the people who alerted Arn, but it turns out that my G5 might not be en route (or even close) after all, due to a cock-up by the credit card company.

I phoned them to check that the money had actually gone, which they confirmed. Way hey, thought I, because Apple only deduct money once it's shipped.

However, no shipping notice from Apple made me a tad twitchy, so I phoned them. Turns out the money is in a holding pattern (as it were) and will stay like that until the dual G5 ships (they can keep it 'pending' for 30 days before having to reapply).

A phonecall to my credit card company produced the same response as before; the money has left your account. When I asked them to really check this, and do a fair old rumage (in view of Apple's comments) - Oh, no! Lo and behold, all was confirmed merely to be pending.

Gits.

Anyway, sorry for the false alarm. I'm still down to get one from the 15th Sept onwards (HE customer). Pah.

I'm sure that some of the G5s will be en route this very week (that's what the lady at Apple implied without actually saying it, if you see what I mean), but clearly mine ain't one of 'em.:(

Cheers

Mugga

[Stella]

According to theregister - http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/32529.html

Apple are concentrating on north America , getting out the G5 there.

Of course, apple are screwing over the rest of the world - as per usual.

Seems like Apple Promise of "G5 will ship before end of August" only applies to the US, as usual.

We should have realized that. If Apple want to be taken seriously, they should treat the majority of the World equally.

I can see a day when Apple are going to only be a US niece product only, Apple will have faded anyway totally outside its borders.

In Pather, I wonder how many US only applications / services will be added, whilst the rest of the World pay the same full price (and often more) than the US price.

quote from theRegister - "All of which suggests Apple is focusing on the US market while Hon Hai ramps up production."

[BicyclePunk]

Ordered my dualie on June 30th. Up until this morning, my order status was set to "Shipping On or Before 8.29." Well now it says shipping in "4 to 6 weeks." Crap. And my local Apple Store doesn't even have any of the new machines....just a "Coming Soon" card in the display window. Nice.

[groovebuster]

Originally posted by Stella
In Pather, I wonder how many US only applications / services will be added, whilst the rest of the World pay the same full price (and often more) than the US price.

I feel your pain... here in Europe it is even worse...

groovebuster

[mkaake]

Originally posted by esheep2001
A couple of other problems have put a bit of a downer on the G5 too. I was planning to run VPC and finally dump the PC I use. Well we all know what's happening there. I expect M$ to have long fingers to pull out.

Also, my MOTU PCI-324 card won't work because of the new PCI-X standard. MOTU are prepping a new card (424) but are only allowing existing 424 customers to upgrade, despite my break out boxes working fine with the 424 :-( Not only that but they won't even sell the new 424's on their own!

If anyone's interested there's a petition going at
http://www.petitiononline.com/MOTU324/petition.html

Behaviour such as this is going to really hurt Apple and G5 sales so go sign it if you want to help out.

e.


bravo on how you asked us to petition... much better than some of the *requests* on these boards (anyone for a gen 2 ipod with firmware v.2??)

i hope that the 2.0's do start shipping soon, people are getting antsy. i personally don't have any interest other than playing with one at the local compusa. i won't be able to afford one of these babies for another 3.5 or 4 years (tight budget)...

matt

<edited to make the quote shorter>

[welborn]

Like the old commercial ... "An-ti-ci-pa-a-tion..."

My duallie order is in status "open" and still says shipping "on or before 8/29/2003".

I ordered at the end of June.

[kujo770]

I am traveling on business this week in VA and decided to see if the G5 was at the Apple Store in Tysons Corner. There was not only one up front in the spinning display, but a 1.6 I could play with. They had a small number of them for sale. Two had sold that day and I could have purchased one on the spot!

You have to see these machines in person! Impressive! :D

[mxpiazza]

my order still says shipping on or before 8/29... i'm an education customer, and ordered on 6/24, day after they were available... i ordered a BTO dual with the bluetooth. We'll see what happens, but the wait is killing me! I have priority overnight shipping, so i hope to god it gets here saturday, because it's labor day weekend, and i'd have to wait until at least tuesday to get the dual if it's not here saturday...

[mymemory]

Originally posted by groovebuster
I feel your pain... here in Europe it is even worse...

groovebuster

We feel no pain around here in South America, we are very realistic, we do not expect any G5 before January at list.

[BicyclePunk]

I stand corrected. My order still has the "On or before the 29th"....I was looking at another order. Sorry. I paid for the overnight shipping, so maybe I'll see it this week or next......

[Apple Corps]

stella - how is Apple "screwing over the rest of the world"???? It makes perfect sense that the country where the product is made will probably have it sooner than countries half way around the world. Look at BMW and Mercedes - new models are on the road in Germany well before they are available here - and it is not related to U.S. or North American "certifications". I ordered my G5 in June several days after WWDC, I live only 3 hours from Apple HQ in Cupertino and 3 hours from the assembly facility in Sacramento - my G5 has yet to arrive. Apple has a huge demand for these new machines and appears to be on track - we have all waited for years for them to move forward from the MOTO MESS and the future looks bright finally - lets give Apple some credit & support.

[gohaddock]

Haddock Computer Center, an Apple Specialist, has the 1.6 and 1.8ghz G5 in stock in Wichita and Oklahoma City.

All indications are that the Dual 2 won't ship until September.

[aethier]

Originally posted by Stella
According to theregister - http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/32529.html

Apple are concentrating on north America , getting out the G5 there.

Of course, apple are screwing over the rest of the world - as per usual.


I dont know why you are complaining, because canada is part of north america. When my dad ordered his 17 inch PB, it arrived at the same time as all the others that were ordered the first day, and i to live in canada.
As for europe well i dunno.
PS: my dual 2.0 BTO radeon 9800 is on or before october 15!!!

aethier

[hayesk]

Originally posted by Stella
Of course, apple are screwing over the rest of the world - as per usual.

Seems like Apple Promise of "G5 will ship before end of August" only applies to the US, as usual.[/B]

Given Apple is a US-based company, what do you expect. I also live in Canada and want a G5 as bad as anyone else, but I don't expect Apple to give preference to us or the rest of the world for that matter. They'll ship 'em when they do.

[rjwill246]

Originally posted by Stella
According to theregister - http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/32529.html

Apple are concentrating on north America, getting out the G5 there.

Of course, apple are screwing over the rest of the world - as per usual.

In Pather, I wonder how many US only applications / services will be added, whilst the rest of the World pay the same full price (and often more) than the US price.



What an extraordinary statement! Of course the US gets all the "goodies" services first! Apple's biggest single market is it's HOME market and they need to sell lots of these machines. Getting them off to other countries must be after the US is well supplied.
And, if you are complaining about lack of features you are paying for (at the price of Apple's OSeS, you really aren't) Apple could NOT put together the Sherlock offerings, for example, for all countries right now... it's not remotely possible. But let's see: iDVD, iPhoto, iMovie... WILL WORK!! and you are paying for these???
iTunes MS will be available worldwide one day when the legal departments of the record companies actually do some useful work for theirartists... that's NOT a given! Apple has served.... we are waiting the return.
BTW, isn't Canada in North America? Hey, it's close enough that you could drop over the border and add a G5 while on the milk/gas run!

Havng played with a 1.6 G in CompUSA yesterday, I can say that it is the most beautifully crafted machine out there. The build and finish have to be seen and touched!

For BrisVegas, I have ordered from Apple in OZ and they assure me that a machine will be in Brisbane when I am there Oct 10 to 18! I ordered a 1.8G. It's BTO in Singapore and as the order is placed is OZ, it's transmitted to Singapore and they build it! takes 4 to 6 weeks and since I ordered it 2 weeks ago they felt confident it would be there!

[stoid]

The CompUSA in St. Louis at I-270 and St. Charles Rock Road must have a new G5 display model. I set the dual 1.42Ghz G4 display model to fold, and now recently it has been returning no results. Unfortunately, I am at college now and have now way of checking. Oh well.

[Stella]

People are saying "what do you expect, Apple are a US based company".


That is the problem, Apple are meant to be a global company, and they consistantly ignore anywhere out side the US borders.

To compete globally, you have to take the world outside your own borders seriously. Apple, quite frankly do not.

This has been seen many, many times - for example iPhoto services, sherlock. Apple have had ample time to sort this out for other countries, and yet, they still have not. No updates to sherlock, nothing. No iPhoto services outside the US. It is obvious Apple are only interested in serving the US, otherwise they would have done something about it by now..

Also, the iPod volume. All european countries suffer from low volume and many people are complaining about it. In fact, this just effects the French, but yet, Apple choose to screw up every other European country with lower volumn. This is not necessary. Many people are complaining - look on the apple ipod discussion groups and other ipod related websites.

[rjwill246]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stella
[B]People are saying "what do you expect, Apple are a US based company".


I was actually going to reply but you clearly have no understanding of how a business functions globally nor anything about EU rules on sound volume!! so it's not worth the finger taps. But try to make your day better, you seem very depressed.

[Stella]

Enlighten us please about EU volumn laws.

It seems that a large amount of people don't know either...

Originally posted by rjwill246
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stella
[B]People are saying "what do you expect, Apple are a US based company".


I was actually going to reply but you clearly have no understanding of how a business functions globally nor anything about EU rules on sound volume!! so it's not worth the finger taps. But try to make your day better, you seem very depressed.

[Hawthorne]

Originally posted by Stella
People are saying "what do you expect, Apple are a US based company".


That is the problem, Apple are meant to be a global company, and they consistantly ignore anywhere out side the US borders.

To compete globally, you have to take the world outside your own borders seriously. Apple, quite frankly do not.

[/i]

Yeah! I mean, imagine what would happen to Sony if we in U.S. couldn't buy their latest and greatest gadgets the minute they were released in Japan.

Oh, wait.

Okay, umn, imagine what would happen to BMW if we in the U.S. couldn't buy their latest and greatest cars the minute they were introduced in Germany.

Okaaaaayyyy...

So, imagine what would happen to Universal Pictures if they staggered the release of their films so that different nations got movies opening on different dates...

Nevermind.

:D

[Stella]

I'm not just talking about the available of G5 only, buts Apple attitute towards International markets generally.

It stinks, basically.

I'm sure international users would agree with me, as you have seen if you read on past topics that were to do with iPhoto, Sherlock etc.

I'm going a bit off topic... apologyies.

QUOTE]Originally posted by Hawthorne
Yeah! I mean, imagine what would happen to Sony if we in U.S. couldn't buy their latest and greatest gadgets the minute they were released in Japan.

Oh, wait.

Okay, umn, imagine what would happen to BMW if we in the U.S. couldn't buy their latest and greatest cars the minute they were introduced in Germany.

Okaaaaayyyy...

So, imagine what would happen to Universal Pictures if they staggered the release of their films so that different nations got movies opening on different dates...

Nevermind.

:D [/QUOTE]

[pcp_ip]

Sony does release items in Japan first. They also release killer Japanese only items (visit dynamism.com (http://www.dynamism.com/index.shtml) to buy Japanese only items from many global technology companies).

Europe gets the coolest new Nokias and Sony-Ericsson cellphones first.

Give it up. Companies take care of their largest markets first. Much like my Dual pre-order going to a student first instead of me.

[WackyM]

A buddy of mine in Malaysia is telling me that the single proc G5s are on display in the Apple store there and quite a few companies are making G5 purchases. He should know, he ordered a few for the firm he's working at. And the shipping date is all about the same as everyone else, 4 to 6 weeks! I think Apple is doing the best they can and treating all orders, local or international, quite fairly. As for the added value services (iPhoto book orders, Sherlock, etc.), I think its fair enough to concentrate on the local US market since that is where the largest demand exists. And going back to the Sony example, I sure can't get one of those latest and greatest / laser beam shooting / super spy camera communicator techie gizmo phone thingies in the US yet! And that's tangible hardware, not service-based extensions!

[deepkid]

Originally posted by Stella
Enlighten us please about EU volumn laws.

It seems that a large amount of people don't know either...

Google really is the librarian of today. :)

Check out this link and read over "Effective supply chain management" for some basics:
http://www.cio.com/research/scm/fulfill.html

[deadfish]

Mine is still set to ship tomorrow. no charge on my card yet: i'll let ya know when it does!!!!!!!

[ImAlwaysRight]

Originally posted by Stella
I'm not just talking about the available of G5 only, buts Apple attitute towards International markets generally.

It stinks, basically.
From my understanding Europe and other markets are to receive the G5 a month or so after it is available in the US.

I am a consumer electronics fan wanting the latest and greatest in miniDV camcorders. It makes me sick to see all these Sony and Panasonic camcorders released in Japan that NEVER EVEN MAKE IT to the USA. So either I have to pay outrageous prices from some importer AND live with menus in Japanese (I can only understand English), or else do without.

So that fact that you are receiving this a month later is not that big a deal. Now if you were not even getting G5's, then you would have reason to complain.

[lord_flash]

Originally posted by pcp_ip
Sony does release items in Japan first. They also release killer Japanese only items (visit dynamism.com (http://www.dynamism.com/index.shtml) to buy Japanese only items from many global technology companies).

Europe gets the coolest new Nokias and Sony-Ericsson cellphones first.

Give it up. Companies take care of their largest markets first. Much like my Dual pre-order going to a student first instead of me.

Yeah, fair enough. It's bad practice in a way, bout it's probably our fault for being so desperate. In another environment, we could always turn to a competitor, after all...

But things like the iPhoto services are much harder to forgive. It's not like they've not had time now.

The trick is to show willing, as Apple seem to be with the G5 (domestic education first ,everyone else next) and not contempt (european iPod noise limiting - simply a crass cost cutting measure failing to take into account that france is a different country - and iPhoto services etc.)

[blahblah123]

Originally posted by stoid
I set the dual 1.42Ghz G4 display model to fold, and now recently it has been returning no results.
The computers are restored back to an initial state every day.

[blahblah123]

Originally posted by Stella
as you have seen if you read on past topics that were to do with iPhoto, Sherlock etc.
I haven't read these "past topics" you mention, but -- even though this isn't the point of your messages -- I can assure you that you're not missing out on much.

[mikeh123]

Apple isn't that bad at distributing hardware in Europe (well UK is all I can speak for).

We aren't a month behind on the G5 releases. Our office recived a G5 last week and another early this week.
Already shipped to customers so can't test or play with I'm afraid.

I expect my dual 2 gig within in week or two so that will be ok if they they come through

[themadchemist]

I'm thinking about purchasing a 2.0 GHz G5, w/a Radeon 9800...

But I won't if I can expect my order to be here in November, at which point I might as well sit tight and wait for an update.

What do you think is a realistic time to expect my order to come in if I place it within that next few days?

Is there anyone else who has ordered recently and has one of Apple's est. shipping dates?

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by themadchemist
I'm thinking about purchasing a 2.0 GHz G5, w/a Radeon 9800...

But I won't if I can expect my order to be here in November, at which point I might as well sit tight and wait for an update.

What do you think is a realistic time to expect my order to come in if I place it within that next few days?

Is there anyone else who has ordered recently and has one of Apple's est. shipping dates?

you can just enter in your order and not actually buy, and it will tell you the weeks.

i recently ordered (and since cancelled) a dual 2 ghz with 9800, etc... 5-7 weeks. basically, middle of october.

[themadchemist]

Originally posted by Apple Corps
stella - how is Apple "screwing over the rest of the world"???? It makes perfect sense that the country where the product is made will probably have it sooner than countries half way around the world. Look at BMW and Mercedes - new models are on the road in Germany well before they are available here - and it is not related to U.S. or North American "certifications". I ordered my G5 in June several days after WWDC, I live only 3 hours from Apple HQ in Cupertino and 3 hours from the assembly facility in Sacramento - my G5 has yet to arrive. Apple has a huge demand for these new machines and appears to be on track - we have all waited for years for them to move forward from the MOTO MESS and the future looks bright finally - lets give Apple some credit & support.

I agree. I'm glad someone realizes that Apple doing its best to KEEP UP with a LARGE NUMBER of orders is something GREAT that we haven't seen in a while.

[lord_flash]

Originally posted by themadchemist
I agree. I'm glad someone realizes that Apple doing its best to KEEP UP with a LARGE NUMBER of orders is something GREAT that we haven't seen in a while.

What haven't we seen for a long while, a large number of orders or people being polite about something?

Either way, good stuff everyone. Well done for emptying your manners and (where appropriate) your patience! ;)

[superkosto]

The G5 is not made entirely in the US, but in countries "half around the world".
Same is true for the cars you mention.

I think Apples policy of anouncing "virtual" shipping dates, that are not met is VERY BAD, regardless of the country. I need a new computer really bad (using a Powerbook G3 at the moment) and want to know when I can go into a store and buy a G5, so I can plan accordingly.


Originally posted by Apple Corps
stella - how is Apple "screwing over the rest of the world"???? It makes perfect sense that the country where the product is made will probably have it sooner than countries half way around the world. Look at BMW and Mercedes - new models are on the road in Germany well before they are available here - and it is not related to U.S. or North American "certifications".

[jason166]

My order status says tommarow my 2ghz will ship.

Also before today it was formatted poorly, double spaced etc...

Today everything is nice and neat as if some human has gone over the order and
checked things.


I'm hoping my machine starts shipping tommarow... then there's a week of tracking it's movements :)


Jason

[superkosto]

Originally posted by pcp_ip
Sony does release items in Japan first.
They also release killer Japanese only items (visit dynamism.com (http://www.dynamism.com/index.shtml) to buy Japanese only items from many global technology companies).

Europe gets the coolest new Nokias and Sony-Ericsson cellphones first.


Yeah but they don't ANNOUCE that they will ship the same time and the let this date just pass on. Apple basicly says: Order a G5 now and have it delivered - hmmm- sometime...

It would be no probleme if Apple would give accurate shipping dates and meet them with a sufficient volumen even if it was October or November. I care about when the computer is availale HERE and not somewhere else.

[stoid]

Originally posted by blahblah123
The computers are restored back to an initial state every day.


Actually blahblah, the CompUSA there does not re-image each day. The mac section is pathetically small, a tiny niche in the back that hardly anyone ever visits. I set it up and it folded strong for about three weeks, returning quite a few results. Then about two or three days ago results from it suddenly stopped coming in. There is only one display G4 that has a network connection, and that is the one I "hi-jacked." It looked lonely and bored, so I gave it something to do.

[couch potato]

count me in, im waiting for mine:(

[blahblah123]

Originally posted by stoid
Actually blahblah, the CompUSA there does not re-image each day. The mac section is pathetically small, a tiny niche in the back that hardly anyone ever visits. I set it up and it folded strong for about three weeks, returning quite a few results. Then about two or three days ago results from it suddenly stopped coming in. There is only one display G4 that has a network connection, and that is the one I "hi-jacked." It looked lonely and bored, so I gave it something to do.Hm .. Good to know. I'm impressed that the machine could go for that long without needing to be re-imaged.

[G5isAlive]

For what it is worth I have a 8/29/2003 est. ship date for a Dual Proc 2 Ghz... I called apple today to update credit card info (taking no risks) and the guy 'researched it' and told me my machine was being built at that moment... literally. There was a box with my name on it.

For those hoping for an overnight delivery this weekend, I was told their carrier agreement does not include saturday delivery.

Shipping is close though. Very close.

[crazedbytheheat]

Originally posted by G5isAlive
For what it is worth I have a 8/29/2003 est. ship date for a Dual Proc 2 Ghz... I called apple today to update credit card info (taking no risks) and the guy 'researched it' and told me my machine was being built at that moment... literally. There was a box with my name on it.

For those hoping for an overnight delivery this weekend, I was told their carrier agreement does not include saturday delivery.

Shipping is close though. Very close.

When did you order? I ordered on 6/26 and am still showing a ship date of tomorrow. I spoke with the Apple store on Tuesday and the lady told me that it should ship, but it's not like she did anything special to check.

Odd about no Saturday delivery. Maybe this is just for the G5s? I got my 23" CD delivered overnight on a Saturday via FedEx. I got the free shipping, so it looks like ground for me. Oh, well. My wife want me to spend some time with the family this weekend anyway. :cool:

[zoozx]

Apple pushed dual G5 ship dates today.
My order made on 6/23 was scheduled to ship 9/3 from Macconection.
They just told me that Apple updated them today and pushed all ship dates for the dual's to 9/19.
C R A P!

[mark_wilkins]

Originally posted by crazedbytheheat
Odd about no Saturday delivery. Maybe this is just for the G5s? I got my 23" CD delivered overnight on a Saturday via FedEx.

FedEx sometimes will deliver items before they're obligated if they have the delivery capacity free. It clears out orders and makes the best use of people they have to have on hand anyway for unexpected spikes in demand.

-- Mark

[mxpiazza]

like the last post read, fed ex will ship if it has the capacity to do so. most distribution centers close at 4 pm local time on saturday, so check your package tracking, and if the package is at the facility and not on a truck, call them up and ask them if you can come pick the package up. i have a dual shipping priority overnight that's scheduled to ship tomorrow, and lord knows that's what i'll be doing :D

[MacMamma]

Originally posted by Apple Corps
stella - how is Apple "screwing over the rest of the world"???? It makes perfect sense that the country where the product is made will probably have it sooner than countries half way around the world. Look at BMW and Mercedes - new models are on the road in Germany well before they are available here - and it is not related to U.S. or North American "certifications". I ordered my G5 in June several days after WWDC, I live only 3 hours from Apple HQ in Cupertino and 3 hours from the assembly facility in Sacramento - my G5 has yet to arrive. Apple has a huge demand for these new machines and appears to be on track - we have all waited for years for them to move forward from the MOTO MESS and the future looks bright finally - lets give Apple some credit & support.
I TOTALLY agree!! If we in the US were ordering something made in Europe we would never expect to receive it at the same time as Europeans. I, too, live in California, ordered a 1.8 on July 23 via Authorized Reseller (to avoid paying sales tax), and haven't heard word one. At the time of my order, I was told, "August or Sept" for delivery time. The wait is killing me but I know it will be worth it! Anyone else order through PowerMax in Portland, OR?

[swmooretiger]

I just changed my shipping on my dual from expedited (2 day) to priority overnight this morning. the guy told me it would be delivered on the 2nd, but maybe the 3rd because of the holiday. Also, I just got an email from the apple store saying that my DVI to Video adapter (part of the G5 order) had already shipped today with fedex. I'm guessing that means the G5 could be out the door either today or tomorrow and meet me at school next week :-D

[mark_wilkins]

FedEx is closed on Monday, Sep. 1. However, if your package is being shipped by Standard Overnight and meets the shipping deadline on 8/29, it must arrive on by 3:00 p.m. on 9/2. If it does not, you are entitled to a full refund of the shipping costs. (Apple will have to request the refund and you'll have to get a credit from Apple.)

Apple does not appear to offer Priority Overnight (which guarantees delivery by 10:30 a.m.) or Saturday delivery, at least not for personal, education, or business orders.

-- Mark

[G5isAlive]

Originally posted by mark_wilkins
FedEx sometimes will deliver items before they're obligated if they have the delivery capacity free. It clears out orders and makes the best use of people they have to have on hand anyway for unexpected spikes in demand.

-- Mark

Makes sense. What I know is when I called Apple this morning to change my shipping method from two day to overnight (so IF they shipped tomorrow Friday I would not have to wait all weekend) I was told they do not have a contract for Saturday delivery. Perhaps if Fed-Ex out of the kindness of their heart chooses to that is a different question. My past experience would lead me to call Fed Ex, not apple, once you have a tracking number and ask them to put it on the truck for you....

[MacPower]

I just ordered (and unordered) a 1.8 Ghz G5 base model, and it said that the est. shipping was 7-10 business days, and I live in Canada!

[iPC]

Originally posted by crazedbytheheat
Oh, well. My wife want me to spend some time with the family this weekend anyway. :cool:
Exactly. Last holiday weekend of the summer, great weather for most of the USA is expected. ENJOY IT. There are better things to do than this... (now if I can only find her number again) ;)

OT

Apple has a horrendous record with shipping. They are at the will of their suppliers. With the way that Apple communicates to their customers (lack thereof), this could all be perfectly on time. We would never know. That is what bothers me most. "To ship in August" is about the lamest cop-out ever. Give me a real date, otherwise just say "soon" or "as fast as we can" or something. I would have rather the G5 was announced last week, with the phrase "shipping starts Monday September 25th 2003." Much bigger impact in my book.

But what do I know? (rhetorical question guys ;))

[fcpguy]

I have been reading these forums for a while now, but have never posted anything....however, since I've pre-ordered a Dual G5 I thought I'd jump in. I ordered mine on 6/23....my order status still shows 8/29/03 and my credit card has yet to be billed. I'll keep you guys posted if something changes.

[tychay]

Originally posted by superkosto
Yeah but they don't ANNOUCE that they will ship the same time and the let this date just pass on. Apple basicly says: Order a G5 now and have it delivered - hmmm- sometime...

You say the same thing in two separate posts hoping to make it fact. I have not seen a single case where Apple has not met or beat the shipping time estimated at order with the G5. In fact, a majority of people have mentioned their date was moved up since the time of order, and a few have received their units before the final time estimated! One can hope that the same is true with the Dual-G5, but statistically, the higher end machines would be subject to more variance: the estimation is further in the future, the yield on 2Ghz would be lower, and there is the danger of bugs in the dual processor design.

Also, it is impossible to predict the future with 100% certainty. An earthquake in Taiwan or a power outage on the east coast can have an impact that will ripple down the supply chain. You are simply asking for the impossible. Even Dell and Walmart.com, probably sometimes misestimate their ship dates by a bit and they are the kings of such things.

If you want to bitch, go to AMDzone. AMD has missed the target launch of the Athlon64 by over a year and Microsoft backpedaled any release date of a Windows OS targeting it. Oh yeah, when was Longhorn supposed to ship?

Finally, you obviously don't have much experience with Apple.com. There are a number of people who can enlighten you about the G4 PowerMac release of 1999!

(P.S. if you are using a Mac and Safari, you can turn on Edit>Spelling>Check Spelling As You Type, it would give your posts much more authority).

I'm not even going to address the "Apple is not a worldwide company" rant. I understand that many of you are anticipating your new machine so the tension can be a bit high. ;)

Take care,

terry

[Fender2112]

CompUSA on South Blvd. (Charlotte, NC) has G5 1.6 on display. Looks really nice next to the 23" monitor :D

[mark_wilkins]

Originally posted by tychay
I have not seen a single case where Apple has not met or beat the shipping time estimated at order with the G5.

An individual posted on a couple of boards who had a quoted 8/27 delivery date on a CTO 1.8 GHz that was delayed to 9/11. Unclear what channel he was in, but he did indicate that he was buying directly from Apple.

-- Mark

[mxpiazza]

Originally posted by mark_wilkins
FedEx is closed on Monday, Sep. 1. However, if your package is being shipped by Standard Overnight and meets the shipping deadline on 8/29, it must arrive on by 3:00 p.m. on 9/2. If it does not, you are entitled to a full refund of the shipping costs. (Apple will have to request the refund and you'll have to get a credit from Apple.)

Apple does not appear to offer Priority Overnight (which guarantees delivery by 10:30 a.m.) or Saturday delivery, at least not for personal, education, or business orders.

-- Mark

I don't know what you're talking about, but about 3 weeks ago I called apple to update my shipping to the highest and possible method that they have available, and now my order status shows that i do indeed have 'Priority Overnite' shipping... so i don't know what this does or does not mean.

[mark_wilkins]

Priority Overnight is not listed on the shipping options on their website, but maybe it's available if you ask for it. I think I may try it and find out!

-- Mark

[mustang_dvs]

Interestingly enough, if you buy a 1.6GHz or a 1.8GHz G5 today, regardless of CTO or standard stock, they will ship in "7-10 days," but the 2.0GHz machines ship in "4-6 weeks."

This leads me to ask a dumb question -- are the machines manufactured in the same location? Or, is this an element of the demand for the Dual machines and the limitation on IBM's supply? (No, I'm not getting at a Moto-esque problem.)

[mxpiazza]

yeah man, check that out. i don't remember if it was an available option when i ordered the g5, but that's exactly what my order says now, so maybe they did something special, maybe not. all i know is that i'm going to be really ticked if it ships tomorrow and i can't get it on saturday.... really ticked.

[Gymnut]

Originally posted by Apple Corps
stella - how is Apple "screwing over the rest of the world"???? It makes perfect sense that the country where the product is made will probably have it sooner than countries half way around the world. Look at BMW and Mercedes - new models are on the road in Germany well before they are available here - and it is not related to U.S. or North American "certifications". I ordered my G5 in June several days after WWDC, I live only 3 hours from Apple HQ in Cupertino and 3 hours from the assembly facility in Sacramento - my G5 has yet to arrive. Apple has a huge demand for these new machines and appears to be on track - we have all waited for years for them to move forward from the MOTO MESS and the future looks bright finally - lets give Apple some credit & support.

I second that. Some people do not understand the logistics of distributing a product worldwide. Information can be channeled almost instantaneously. Until a G5 can be dematerialized in California and rematerialized in Europe, keep holding your breath.

[Foxer]

1.6 on display at the Apple Store in Milwaukee. Very nice. Fast, but not as super-fast as I hoped. I guess that will be the dual 2. All there stock was pre-sold, and they told me that 1.8 also arrived. More on the way, so they said.

It looks soooo nice, though. You can sort of see the fan running behind the grate, which looks nice. Quite as anything.

[iBot]

I just got back from the Apple Store at the Grove in Los Angeles, where a couple of demo G5s are on display (1.6 and 1.8GHz models).

A couple employees told me that there is (as of a few minutes ago) one 1.6 model in stock and ready to sell to whichever lucky customer asks for it first....

[Gymnut]

Originally posted by superkosto
The G5 is not made entirely in the US, but in countries "half around the world".
Same is true for the cars you mention.

I think Apples policy of anouncing "virtual" shipping dates, that are not met is VERY BAD, regardless of the country. I need a new computer really bad (using a Powerbook G3 at the moment) and want to know when I can go into a store and buy a G5, so I can plan accordingly.

Uhmm the parts may be made in foreign countries, but the final product is ASSEMBLED in the U.S. As for cars, the same goes for that as well.

[mark_wilkins]

Originally posted by mxpiazza
maybe they did something special, maybe not.

If you have Priority Overnight shipping, then you should receive it on Saturday if it ships Friday. If you have Standard Overnight you probably will not receive it on Saturday but instead the following Tuesday, as Monday's a FedEx holiday.

-- Mark

[mark_wilkins]

Originally posted by Gymnut
As for cars, the same goes for that as well.

Depends on the car, of course.

I've had two Miatas and now a Nissan 350Z, and all were completely manufactured in Japan.

-- Mark

[pjhornak]

It's a nice problem to have... all the fanatacism...anticipation etc....but... you still can't have your CEO stand up on stage and promise a product and not deliver....It is pretty slimey to say August (cause everyone will naturally think 01 August) then push a few out the door on the 29th of the month. They should have said September if they get a few out early, great! they would have looked like heros instead of goats. I'm a switcher my first Apple.... let me tell you a little story for all the haters out there....
I took a friends old old imac... running like 8.6 or early nine...and with a paper clip and about 20 minutes had installed the most current version of Jaguar (10.2 at the time) and memory and it was running like a champ. No problems at all... Now let me tell you about trying to upgrade a wintel box. Going from Windows 98 to XP was a nightmare it has been about a year...countless hours of debugging looking for drivers etc on the phone with tech support from Microsoft transfered to level 2 techs etc... result DVD playback doesn't work also there is no sound ( I was told to go out and buy a new sound card becuase it would never work) and other crashes and hangups with no explanation or no cure... A wintel machine will never be as fast as an mac because of all the downtime and nonsense... I spent more time trying to get the computer to work than I did doing work on the computer. All the people who come here to hate and bash macs should get a life and a job in tech support for Microsoft..but then would have to move to India.. hmmmm that wouldn't be so bad....

[rundevilrun]

Originally posted by mark_wilkins
Depends on the car, of course.

I've had two Miatas and now a Nissan 350Z, and all were completely manufactured in Japan.

-- Mark

Well, not "completely" if you got the auto-dimming rearview mirror option, that was made in the US.

[Chaszmyr]

It's 8/28.. Isn't it too late for Apple to push back the 8/29 deadline?

[MattG]

Well, there's an update up there now that says the G5 product manager said "DP G5's will ship by the end of August." As far as shipping dates go, the end of August is tomorrow. I better see a bunch of "MY G5 SHIPPED!!!" posts on here tomorrow (hopefully one by me included :)).

[wondermite]

"end of August" would be TOMORROW, Friday the 28th (no corporate shipments on Saturday.)

C'mon, dummies. "End of August" REFERS TO THOSE THAT ALREADY SHIPPED.

The Duals will go to non-select customers at the promised time--late september.

Macrumors used to be halfway decent...

[rdowns]

Originally posted by lord_flash
Yeah, fair enough. It's bad practice in a way, bout it's probably our fault for being so desperate. In another environment, we could always turn to a competitor, after all...

But things like the iPhoto services are much harder to forgive. It's not like they've not had time now.

The trick is to show willing, as Apple seem to be with the G5 (domestic education first ,everyone else next) and not contempt (european iPod noise limiting - simply a crass cost cutting measure failing to take into account that france is a different country - and iPhoto services etc.)

This is business and nothing about it is fair. As others have posted, other products get released elsewhere first; that's life.

Damn Canadiens always complaining. You get stuff before we do, right?

I mean like Celine Dion songs or Corel software. :D

[mxpiazza]

Originally posted by wondermite
"end of August" would be TOMORROW, Friday the 28th (no corporate shipments on Saturday.)

C'mon, dummies. "End of August" REFERS TO THOSE THAT ALREADY SHIPPED.

The Duals will go to non-select customers at the promised time--late september.

Macrumors used to be halfway decent...
actually, 'dummy' (no need for name calling on the forum), apple specifically stated in their press release, and i quote:

August 18th: "“The Power Mac G5 is a big hit with customers and developers,” said Philip Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing. “The two single processor Power Mac G5 models are available now, so we wanted to get those into customers hands as soon as possible, and we’re right on track to deliver the dual 2.0 GHz Power Mac G5 later this month.”"
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2003/aug/18pmg5.html

Also, check this out (reported by MacRumors):

Confirmed, Power Mac G5 Dual 2 GHz Models Ship End of August: On Your Mac Life last night, Apple G5 product manager Todd Benjamin stated that the Dual 2-GHz Power Mac G5s are still on track to ship by the end of August. We can't wait to get ours!
http://www.macsonly.com/index.html#8281

So I highly suggest that before you start calling any of us 'dummies', or bashing MacRumors, arguably the internet's best and most accurate rumor site, why don't you do your research, or just stay off the forums.

those who have ship dates of 8/29 WILL SHIP TOMORROW, barring some completely unforseen circumstance. follow the link above, that's direct from apple, recent through last night. those of us who got overnite shipping still may not get them until next week, but hey... they're shipping!

[mark_wilkins]

Originally posted by wondermite
"end of August" would be TOMORROW, Friday the 28th (no corporate shipments on Saturday.)

Friday is the 29th.

Anyway, I spoke to them on the phone to try to change to Priority Overnight (just because someone on here said they'd gotten that change) and I was told that it was impossible for my shipping to be changed because it was in the queue to ship tomorrow.

Anybody unemployed in Sacramento who can camp out outside the Apple warehouse and count trucks? :eek:

It's worth reminding everyone who says they WILL SHIP TOMORROW that these dates are estimated (not guaranteed) and that they have been known to change them on the day in some instances. Until you have a tracking number, don't get too attached to the date. That said, the optimism about meeting the date among the phone reps is apparently boundless.

Just kidding.

-- Mark

[mxpiazza]

Originally posted by mark_wilkins
Friday is the 29th.

Anyway, I spoke to them on the phone to try to change to Priority Overnight (just because someone on here said they'd gotten that change) and I was told that it was impossible for my shipping to be changed because it was in the queue to ship tomorrow.

Anybody unemployed in Sacramento who can camp out outside the Apple warehouse and count trucks? :eek:

Just kidding.

-- Mark

hey man, sorry that didn't work out for you, but i'll be sure to let you know (and everyone else) if i get mine saturday, because i called and shanged my shipping 3 weeks ago, and my order does indeed say "Priority Overnite" under the shipping method.

[Baja2k]

Originally posted by wondermite
"end of August" would be TOMORROW, Friday the 28th (no corporate shipments on Saturday.)

C'mon, dummies. "End of August" REFERS TO THOSE THAT ALREADY SHIPPED.

The Duals will go to non-select customers at the promised time--late september.

Macrumors used to be halfway decent...

Before you start calling people dumb you should check your dates. TOMORROW, Friday the 29th, is a corporate shipment date.
I have no idea if they'll make the date but I think they chose the last Friday in August for a reason. Here's to dreams of a very busy shipping department at Apple tomorrow.

[mark_wilkins]

it's cool, I'm not too worried, I was mostly just curious if that was a shipping option. :D

Actually I didn't get to ask that question because they shut me down at the point of me mentioning changing my shipping.

-- Mark

[Baja2k]

Why don't they just shut the call center down and send all those sales/support people to the back to stuff boxes. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[uberman42]

This is the biz - even if a company has a target to meet a shipment requirement, there is always some wrench in the cog of punctuality that causes a delay. It seems most haven't been in the business world or bought a 17" Powerbook, but businesses always have targeted goals and miss. Nothing is perfect in this world. I mean, I bought an iPod from Dell.com and was delayed twice from my anticipated ship date (of course apple was probably yanking Dell's procurement managers chain ;) ). I think in the future, steve should mention we are "targeting to ship these", not "we will ship these". But I can understand the fury some have. I mean the machine is too sweet. Take some xanax and enjoy the Labor Day. And ponder this question, "Why is it called labor day when most aren't laboring?" Discuss....

[two_tail]

I completely freaked out for a couple of minutes when I checked and saw that my 1.8GHz order had suddenly changed to SHIPPED! It's coming FedEx standard overnight so I should see it Friday (hope hope hope :D)!

[Mac Kiwi]

My shop tells me my 5 - 2ghz is due 2nd week of Sept so I assume the rest of Australasia will be just a smidegeon different.

[strangelogic]

Originally posted by mark_wilkins
Friday is the 29th.

Anyway, I spoke to them on the phone to try to change to Priority Overnight (just because someone on here said they'd gotten that change) and I was told that it was impossible for my shipping to be changed because it was in the queue to ship tomorrow.



I had an 8/29 ship date. Ordered the day of the announcement. I thought I had put at least overnight shipping in the order - but the status was showing 'Bestway' and no shipping charge. I called just now and changed it to Standard Overnight - in regards to 'Priority Overnight' she said "unfortunately, that's not really an option'' - I was not in a mood to say ''but somebody on a forum said theirs is set up for that''.

Obviously, I'm in a slightly anxious state waiting for it, but at the same time - I need to get over that! It's just a computer... right?

Edited to show that my ship date is now 9/26 - I'm assuming that the person I spoke to just didn't know that it was too late to change the shipping method, and by doing so - she booted me out of line! I called back and happened to speak to the same person (lucky me) - and she insists that my changing the shipping had absolutely nothing to do with the 2-4 week delay. I don't believe it.

Update - Again - Another poster at Apple forums reports a delay to 9/26.

[JTP3]

My date just jumped to the end of September, and I didn't change shipping.
All over the world, one month delays arebeing slipped into order status. And in the morning we will here wailing and great sorrow

[glowrider]

**** Apple, they suck. My G5 was set to ship on 8/29 via ground, so I call to upgrade to overnight shipping. Well, magically, my order is set to ship on 9/26. Apple ****ing blows, but at least I have my overnight shipping, huh.

[CorneredBeast]

Originally posted by strangelogic
Edited to show that my ship date is now 9/26 - I'm assuming that the person I spoke to just didn't know that it was too late to change the shipping method, and by doing so - she booted me out of line! I called back and happened to speak to the same person (lucky me) - and she insists that my changing the shipping had absolutely nothing to do with the 2-4 week delay. I don't believe it.


Believe it - they pushed my order back, too. Ordered on 6/23, CTO, scheduled (until last night) to ship 8/29, now set to ship 9/26.

[glowrider]

What the hell is wrong with these people. My first direct from apple experience is a miserable one, no doubt.

[KCK]

I just checked and luckily it still shows my 10/02/03 shipping date as being good so at this point I'm not to worried about having my shipping date missed :)

[chorizo]

On the eve of bliss, my 8/29 ship-by date slipped a month. Iiiiiiiiiimmmmmmmm ssssssssssssllllllllliiiiiiiiipppppppppiiiiiinnng 2

[mrougeux]

Just wanted to let you know that within the last couple hours, Apple has changed my ship date for my dual G5 from 8/29 (tomorrow) to 9/26!!! Almost a month delay. This was ordered first day, 6/23, and I am an education customer. 10:15 EDT 8/28/03 I discovered this by checking my online order status. Have not yet had confirmation (or any communication) from Apple directly yet.
:confused:

[glowrider]

I'm an education customer too...

[Baja2k]

9/26 Now......

This is bad business. They had to know prior to 1/2 and hour ago that they were going to miss date. Keeping us in the dark is basically a very rude way of running a company.
I must seriously consider canceling my order until things simmer down a little. This would be my first personal Mac. So I don't know what I'm missing anyway. My problem is that I'm already sitting on an FCP 4.0 package that I was itching to play with.

BAH HUMBUG!

[trog]

I just feel sick. Its just a computer, I know, but I can't remember ever feeling this let down.

I also ordered through education and had a date for 8/29.

Boy, I can just imagine the trolls warming up for tomorrow... :(

[glowrider]

Oh man, if the Giants weren't owning the Ravens right now....I agree, if I wasn't sitting on a bunch of hardware and software in anticipation of this machine, I'd be itching to cancel...But alas, there aren't really any other options...Maybe buy through a reseller? But what the hell good would that do...

[rundevilrun]

Mine just updated too, 9/26. Did any ship at all?
Right now I'm kinda hoping the estimated ship date thing is automated and it if the shipping system doesn't send a ship notification by a certain time it bumps up the date. It could still ship tomorrow, at least I hope.

[patseguin]

Gee, I hope you're right about that. Didn't that guy from Apple JUST say that duals were still going to ship this month? I'm sorta ready to cancel my order if it slips another month.

[glowrider]

I got off the phone with a supervisor at Apple who said that most of the dps were pushed back. The supervisor assured me that they would call me back tomorrow with an explanation and gave me their name and extension just in case they fall victim to the corporate motto, "screw the customer." As someone in #mt said this evening, "they should just put on the front page of apple.com we ****ed up AGAIN, but you'll still buy from us HAHAHAHA "

[Baja2k]

And I quote from their website:
Under the question: When will I receive my order?

Although every effort is made to ship your order according to the lead time provided, shipping dates may change due to changes in supply. If the lead time changes, Apple will contact you via email or telephone and provide a revised shipping estimate.


My phone hasn't rang and I don't have an email explaining the situation..... I feel this is pure disregard for the customer.

[patseguin]

That extra month is going to give me time to research the Athlon 64. I really love Mac, I don't want to be screwed with.

[MattG]

Well...my order still says 9/2. The auction on my iMac is over, and it's going bye-bye once I get the money order. I'd like to have a computer to replace it...SOON.

[patseguin]

I went to the Apple forums and people are bitching up a storm about the changed ship dates. Looks like it's happening to everybody.

[mxpiazza]

well, i go to ohio state, and classes don't start till the 24th, so i was pumped that i was starting late enough for it to get shipped to me and so i could set it up and everything... i am almost too teed to type right now. like my hands are shaking... this is unbelieveable. i ordered the system with the EDU discount, day of the keynote, and now i don't have it.... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

and worst off, they won't let you cancel a BTO order. so i can't cancel it and order a powerbook. damn all of this.

[3-22]

Well mine still says 9/2, I guess I'll see what the weekend brings. Pretty lame, to wait until the last day to push out the dates. Thing that sucks, is they sent my cinema display and ipod before the G5. Now I have a LCD and iPod loosing months on there warranty with no computer. (yeah, i tried to fix the order for it all to ship at the same time but it already shipped.)

[Baja2k]

What do you mean. You can't cancel it?

If they don't let me cancel I will call my credit card company and have them cancel it. I know they can handle it if I file a complaint.

I'm getting more ticked off the more I think about it. The stupid mad face isn't mad enough.... :SCREAM:

[glowrider]

I have my 23" hd cd sitting in my living room too...I haven't activated the APP yet though...

[pjhornak]

c*&%suckers they got me too... 9/26 If Mr. Jobs got up in front of the world and announced they would be shipping the worlds fastest personal computer in August then that f*%&ing worm should get up now and say in front of the world why they are not going to do that...there should be at least a personal letter on the Apple web from Steve-o explaiing the delay...remember on or before 26 September could be tomorrow too but you remember what happenend to the last ship date....

[Baja2k]

And I quote:

CUSTOM-CONFIGURED PRODUCT
We are pleased to offer product that is custom-configured to your specifications, and we encourage you to review your order carefully. Since the product is built to your specifications, the order cannot be changed, modified, or canceled once your order is in production.


I would have to say something that is a month away is not in production yet.

[glowrider]

Apparently this happened with the 1.6 and 1.8s too and they still shipped...*Fingers crossed* today (8/28) is my birthday after all...someone could smile on me:)

[3-22]

Now people are reporting there dates going back, maybe they are doing some system changes. Who knows... (except for some guy in a warehouse)

[pjhornak]

My ship date flopped back to 8/29???????????
Dual 2.0
Bluetooth 9800
First one ordered from an Apple store in NJ...
This should be an interesting evening...

[strangelogic]

Originally posted by mxpiazza
and worst off, they won't let you cancel a BTO order. so i can't cancel it and order a powerbook. damn all of this.

When I spoke to them just after mine changed she said that I will probably get an email. She also thought the delay made them legally obligated to get a 're-confirmation' that you agree to accept the delay and that you still want the item. -
If she was correct - this would hit many people the same way. Meaning that you'll get a email stating that 'if you still want this, we need you to call and tell us'. I indicated my 'confirmation' that I was willing to accept "a 2-4 week delay".

[mxpiazza]

what makes me so mad about this, is that i couldn't even cancel and order a powerbook if i wanted to, because i'm not going to order an obsolete machine (it will be in 2 weeks). this is such crap, i hate this. yeah, whatever, i'm sure 65% of the people here could care less if i get mine or not because what does a college kid need a dual for, but this is my machine for school, and like a lot of people, i sold my old machine to finance this one. this is crappy beyond words, and it ticks me off beyond belief that they were so shady about this. how, you ask? 1) they post the update just as the call centers close. 2) they don't even have the decency to send an email out, which they said they would do as soon as anything changed, and 3) doing it at the close of the buisness day the day before the shipping date? i agree that there is no 'smilie' to express the rage i have inside of me. at least i have my model girlfriend next to me in a schoolgirl outfit. i am the ultimate computer geek, my friends. good luck.

[MattG]

Who knows what could happen tomorrow? Here's what I anticipate: All orders for DP G5's ship, and we get a "...by the way, now available: 15" PowerBook G5's" from Steve!

It could happen!

Stop looking at me like that :rolleyes:

[jimmueller]

Here's a little before & after data of my Apple Order Status page, between 6pm and 11:20pm:



POWER MAC G5 2.0GHZDP CTO

Z07K

On or before
08/29/2003


... 5 hours later ...


POWER MAC G5 2.0GHZDP CTO

Z07K

On or before
09/26/2003



I had ordered it on 7/11 - not quite Johnny-on-the-spot, but not a sluggard.

*sigh*

[mxpiazza]

i'm back to 8/29...

dual BTO w/bluetooth, combo drive
edu discount

i'll keep you updated, this is going to be a loooong night...

[arn]

sounds like the dates are are moving target at the moment... :)

arn

[pjhornak]

Back to 9/26 DMF......dirty .... you figure out the rest..

[glowrider]

Back to 8/29 myself...what's going on here?!? I'm about to order a 1.25ghz g4 to hold me over...I sold my pbook already. Shipping it tomorrow.

[MattG]

Originally posted by glowrider
Back to 8/29 myself...what's going on here?!? I'm about to order a 1.25ghz g4 to hold me over...I sold my pbook already. Shipping it tomorrow. I just sold my "hold me over" computer (an iMac) too...shipping it once I get the money order for it. That G5 better get here...

[3-22]

Originally posted by mxpiazza
you cancelled already? dude, i'm pissed, but at least ride it out for a day!

He cancelled day's ago, let's not start this thread again. Yes we all know you cancelled Ne0tronik. Steve will be crying all the way to the bank.

Anyway, I think this was just a system hick-up and everything will work out. (maybe)

[glowrider]

WTF!!! Back to 9/26 now...this is gonna be a loooooong next day...

[mxpiazza]

lol, yeah, i work at abercrombie, and whenever i hear someone complain and be like 'well, you just lost a sale!', i'm just like yeah, and i'm sure that our corporate accountants won't sleep at night over it.

anyways, the rollercoaster had me at 8/29, then to 9/26, back to 8/29, and now i'm back to 9/26... ahhhhhhh.

[pjhornak]

I'm going for Jolt and Red Bull this should be a good night...

[glowrider]

I don't know if this could be something, but the reps from apple did say their order software was being upgraded and was acting up on them...Could this be a software glitch? We'll have to see...

[moped]

I've picked the 1.6 at SOHO (NYC) store today without much hassle.

When they'd announced the G5, my instinct told me not to pre-order since
I'd lost complete faith in Apple online store after having so much trouble
with them in the past with my PB. And it paid off.

People who's date has been pushed back, shop around, see if you can
GRAB one on the spot and cancel the Apple store order. Store managers
usually put a unit or two aside unreserved for spot sales.

Regarding the performance, I've played around with iMovie, 70mb PS
file, iTunes, 720x480 QT movie and IE running all at the same time.
It didn't chock but Photoshop seemed to be the most affected
by the others for it was the only app that stuttered at times.

Overall, it doesn't seem that snappier than my MDD 1.25 dual.
It's too early to tell but I might return this for the 2.0 dual.

BTW, it is GIGANTIC compared to the G4.

[10 Goto 10]

Dualie went from Friday ship to end of September, but it happened just after midnight. __Hmm, wonder if it is just an error or because I asked for the 20 inch monitor to be shipped with it.___ ***Just read back a few pages and saw that this is a common occurrence tonight.***

Rumors were that Apple Brick and Mortar Store Orders (first at mine) would ship first. Ugggggghhhh! And to think, I ordered on June 26th.

[mxpiazza]

it seems like after all the old server data is wiped out, all the refreshes are getting us is ship dates of 9/26....

[10 Goto 10]

Satire warning:
1) Listening to Macnn forum demands, Apple made 1 Dualie and then decided to produce a Rev. B motherboard so that no one will have an excuse to not buy a G5.

2) Delay allows Panther to be included on every dualie, so shut up

3) 30 inch monitors as a prize in every box and heck, it takes time to make a new cardboard box worthy of Apple

4) Jobs's Buddhist master decides that Apple users have become too smug and forces Steve to p.o. Apple's pro customers while making Windows users feel good in the most cost efficient manner

5) Apple, following US-UK lead, admits to sexing up Dualies. In fact, 2ghz G5s never existed and were really filled with A.M.D. chips (Apple's Mass Deception or Apple's Moving Date or even Apple Misses Date).

6) What else should a company announce the day of a 52 week stock high

7) Xcode inspired by X-Files runs amuck on Apple servers and transports all Dualies 4 weeks into the future

8) Apple spent too much time on fit and not enough on finish...ing

.... I leave the rest as an exercise for you, the student.

[halabar]

damn! I had 8/29, now it's 9/26!!!!

Well, if the're gonna make me wait another month, I'm going to tweak the order so it ships AFTER Panther, so at least I won't be paying for a Panther upgrade!!!!!

damn!!!!

[sgtpepper]

Hi, I'm a bit new here, but I'm also eagerly awaiting my G5 dual. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents here...

Apple has achieved its target shipping dates for the first two models. The 1.8 is basically just a dual without the second processor; I don't see how there could be a one month discrepency in the shipping dates. Perhaps a week, but a month? That would just be unexpected and ridiculous. This has to be a glitch...

If not I don't know what I'll do. Cry.

btw my order still says 9/2/03 and I orded 6/30 from ADC...

[mxpiazza]

after giving this a lot of thought, i'm still inclined to think that those of us who had orders designated to ship on or before 8/29 WILL have them shipped out tomorrow. i think that it would make sense that apple would take all the other orders that were supposed ship at other times, then give them new dates, and didn't fix the date for those that are shipping tomorrow, just because at some point the status will just be 'shipping' anyways.

this could be something... or it could just be one desperate man's wishful thinking. most likely the latter.

edit: as of 11:05 PM PST, my order is back to showing shipping on or before 8/29...

[mxpiazza]

i'm back to 9/26...

screw this, i'm going to bed.

[trog]

Amazing. It is now almost midnight on the west coast and I'm BACK to 8/29 for the third time.

That means:

8/29 » 9/26 » 8/29 » 9/26 » 8/29

... in the space of 4-5 hours.

[Genie]

I ordered it minutes after the keynote, promised 8/29 ship date.

Order Status as of 11:58 PM PDT, 08/28/2003

Order Date
06/23/2003
01:28 PM PST

POWER MAC G5 2.0GHZDP CTO

EST SHIP: On or before 09/26/2003

I wrote this letter to orders@apple.com:
Hi!

Please tell me that the 8/29 ship date on my G5 is being honored.

If not, please tell me what major steps you can take to keep my order. October is only 3 months from when people expect a bug-free Revision B for significantly less, so the month delay pretty much destroys the value proposition.

Peace,
Genie

[mark_wilkins]

"We'd be happy to cancel your order and take another when you feel you're ready to place one."

Seriously, while their handling of this may be problematic, it's not as though most of us didn't fully recognize the possibility of delivery problems at the time of the initial order.

-- Mark

[esheep2001]

Well at least you people in the US get a ship date! All we get in the UK is a "being built" icon. If we want any more info we have to call up :-(

As for the slippages, I'm not really surprised. The only thing that annoys me slightly is that soon all PMacs will come with Panther as standard and I will have to pay for the privilege. Anyone here who already has their PM confirm that there's an upgrade voucher inside? If not, the temptation is to cancel (as much as I don't want to) and stick with my iMac 'til Christmas.

e.

[mark_wilkins]

Originally posted by esheep2001
The only thing that annoys me slightly is that soon all PMacs will come with Panther as standard and I will have to pay for the privilege.

The good thing about a long delay is that maybe yours will come with it!

Or maybe it will be more likely to qualify for a discounted or free Panther offer.

-- Mark

[trog]

Hey there, Mark.

You seem to have migrated over here as well. Welcome to the after hours party for the dorks.

Ever feel like grabbing a golf ball retriever and pretending its a light saber?

[mark_wilkins]

lol that's mean.

I'm just working late.

-- Mark

[trog]

heh heh, yeah me too...

I'm working on uh, well, I'm sorta working. Its ummm, a project I've been putting together for quite some time. You see, it requires me to spend a lot of effort putting together various important things.

Ahh hell, I'm working on a hangover and a late morning at work is what I'm working on. Hmmm... you know, I feel a lot better about it now that I've just come out and said it!

Ha ha! You 9/26ers! I've got 8/29! That's right, MINE is shipping TOMORROW!

I am SO damn cool.

[uberman42]

...The karma dogs are out and if you gloat that your screen still has a 8/29 date...well...there is still the possibility that the date will change...and all we can do is laugh at you

Might as well wait till january when they will bump the system up a bit.

[chrisdude0000]

I still havent gotten a Email and If apple reads this send my order instead of the Email. ;) cause you dont wanna see me at your palo alto offices. I only live like 30 min away steve.

[esheep2001]

Originally posted by mark_wilkins
The good thing about a long delay is that maybe yours will come with it!

Or maybe it will be more likely to qualify for a discounted or free Panther offer.

-- Mark

That's true, but I had the same experience with my iMac (1st gen FP), although I was glad I upgraded to 10.2.

I'm prepared to wait until mid-late Sept I think. But if there's another slip after that, well... I may just cancel and go on the 3 month waiting list for the newly announce Powerbooks. Then I'll have to cancel that and go on the waiting list for the newly announced G5 powerbooks...

Ugh! I can see myself never buying another Apple computer again at this rate :-)

e.

[Genie]

Mine still says 9/26.
Just called 1-800-myApple (middle of the night) and the guy answered in Ireland, said he couldn't help me .

The Apple rep said NOBODY has Dual 2.0 G5's, except a few prototypes.

He said he works in the factory where they're being made, and they were having delays.

[tam]

Originally posted by Hawthorne
So, imagine what would happen to Universal Pictures if they staggered the release of their films so that different nations got movies opening on different dates...


The same things that happen with all movies that open up at different dates, people download crappy copies off the net instead of going to the movies. Bad example.

There are computers coming from Apple and it will take a while for all orders to be completed, just a week or two longer for those I know ordered here in Sweden.

For those who lack specific services outside the US I can somwhat agree that it's unfortunate, but I think those services would have less acceptance in other countries. Canada doesn't seem to far off though ...

What I haven't seen anything about is the noise. Benchmarks are of course interesting, but how loud will my dual G5 be after doing movie effects for a couple of hours?

[esheep2001]

Originally posted by tam
What I haven't seen anything about is the noise. Benchmarks are of course interesting, but how loud will my dual G5 be after doing movie effects for a couple of hours?

This:
http://homepage.mac.com/aaronsteele/iMovieTheater20.html
may (or may not) answer your question. Basically you can hear how loud the G5 gets when you take the clear guard out and the fans go into full blast mode. Whether your G5 will ever get into such a state is another question.

BTW, this is just a great little movie of the G5 insides. Got it from macbytes.com.

e.

[swmooretiger]

According to my order status it's still at 9/2...and hasn't ever changed. I'm guessing that it really hasn't changed for anyone, and it's just a glitch in their system. I would wait until next week and if no one gets one, then start gettin upset. Gettin all worked up now doesn't do any good :D

[lord_flash]

Perhas it's best to view it as a good thing. Now, form an outssiders perspective I see a company that knows it can take minor liberties with its loyay customers, but you could view it as them simply having trouble fulfilling more orders than they anticipated. That'd be a nice thought. Eating into that PC market share, at least in terms of profit per unit...

[G5isAlive]

just to add my name to the list of unhappy customers... I ordered my g5 6/25 and up until last night my ship date was 8/29... was even told yesterday by an apple factory rep that it was literally being built, there was one with my name on it.

apparently not built too fast.

new ship date 9/26 which seems to be worse than others with later order times.

maybe it is the extra 512 RAM at the inflated price?

[Sun Baked]

Originally posted by DeltaOP on Ars:
New Apple press release:

Apple Ships two Power Mac G5's before months end.


CUPERTINO, California—August 29, 2003—Apple® today announced that it has begun shipping a total of two dual 2.0 GHz Power Mac® G5's, the world's fastest personal computer.

"Ten days ago, Apple® said that we were on track to ship dual 2.0 GHz Power Mac G5 machines and today, Apple® has indeed delivered on its promise to ship these two machines before months end," said Phillip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of worldwide marketing.

"Further deliveries of dual 2.0 GHz Power Mac G5 computers will be determined at a date and time of our choosing and we hope to have current orders shipping by Christmas," added Mr. Schiller.

Powered by the revolutionary PowerPC G5 processor designed by IBM and Apple, the Power Mac G5 is the first personal computer to utilize 64-bit processing technology for unprecedented memory expansion and advanced 64-bit computation, while running existing 32-bit applications natively.

Delivering the industry’s highest system bandwidth, the Power Mac G5 line offers dual 2.0 GHz PowerPC G5 processors, each with an independent 1 GHz front-side bus, for an astounding 16 GBps of bandwidth. The line also features the industry’s highest bandwidth memory (400 MHz 128-bit DDR SDRAM with throughput up to 6.4 GBps); the industry’s fastest PCI interface available on a desktop (133 MHz PCI-X); and cutting-edge AGP 8X Pro graphics capabilities, all within a stunning new professional aluminum enclosure featuring innovative computer-controlled cooling for quiet operation.

Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh. Apple is committed to bringing the best personal computing experience to students, educators, creative professionals and consumers around the world through its innovative hardware, software and Internet offerings.http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=380969

Sort of makes you wonder...

[pjhornak]

wait I didn't see that on apple.com/pr oh I get it... that was supposed to be funny..... isn't there a bus you could step in front of maybe make a QT movie about it... that would be funny

[jamespmack]

Has anyone had their 9/2 ship date changed to 9/26..or was it just the 8/29 people.......I might have to wait till Tuesday to find out I have to wait another month......ugh

[Baja2k]

But it was a #$%?ing advertisement. No new information about why we have been shafted.

If it was a computer glitch, as some have suggested, I would have to say Apple's IT Dept must suck. I mean I've only been following Apple for the last couple of months and this would be the second major foul up. I know all of you remember the G5 specs accidentally made it onto their website. I remember that night was a very good night for many. I guess it was a bad night for a former Apple IT guy.....Or maybe the ship date monitoring was his second chance!

Anyway I've calmed down a little and intend to call Apple this morning to figure this thing out.

[MattG]

Originally posted by jamespmack
Has anyone had their 9/2 ship date changed to 9/26..or was it just the 8/29 people.......I might have to wait till Tuesday to find out I have to wait another month......ugh

I haven't had my 9/2 order change...yet...

[pcp_ip]

my dual's order placed 6/23 12:22pm PST just had it's shipping bumped from today to 9/26.

[Sun Baked]

Originally posted by pjhornak
wait I didn't see that on apple.com/pr oh I get it... that was supposed to be funny..... isn't there a bus you could step in front of maybe make a QT movie about it... that would be funny A critic that likes physical humor. :rolleyes:

I think I'll need a stunt double for that QT movie, since I'm so terrible at making funny, I hope you're available.

Have a mime day.

[glowrider]

At the very least I'll give them till Tuesday to see if indeed the shipping is delayed...If the 9/2 orders aren't being pushed back, I can't imagine that the 8/29s are, I don't think even Apple would sink that low...

[fspera]

I had my order status change from 8/29 to 9/26 last night. At 9:20 AM EDT I spoke to an Apple rep at the Apple store to confirm the change. He said it was correct, and Apple was having trouble getting them out the door.

[pcp_ip]

Originally posted by fspera
I had my order status change from 8/29 to 9/26 last night. At 9:20 AM EDT I spoke to an Apple rep at the Apple store to confirm the change. He said it was correct, and Apple was having trouble getting them out the door.


one extra month worth of trouble getting them out the door? If the delay is this long, apple knew some time ago they'd miss the ship date.

[jamespmack]

Just got off the phone with my Higher-Ed sales rep....some delays in configured duals....they wont be end of sept though....but they wont be today either....but my University order for standard duals is set to ship tuesday and she said that some were leaving as we spoke.....so all might be ok....well see

[BicyclePunk]

Boooooooo! Just like that my order status changed to "On or before 09/26/2003" from "On or before 08/29/2003". Booooooo!!! I should have figured, though. Just had my hopes up. Damn.

[fcpguy]

I ordered a Dual the night of the Keynote and status is now 9/26...it changed at about 9 PM PST last night. This pretty much sucks.....:mad:

[Lancetx]

They aren't all going to be delayed until the end of September, but did anyone really believe that EVERY pre-order was going to ship on 8/29? Some of them will ship starting today I'm sure, just not anywhere near all of them. I think it's rather unrealistic for anyone to believe that Apple would ship over 50,000 systems in one day.

Apple said they would start shipping duals on 8/29, just as they said the 1.6 & 1.8s would start shipping on 8/18. As we all saw, most stores didn't actually start getting the singles in stock for another week after that and the same will hold true with the duals. I just can't believe that so many people are this surprised considering what just happened with the single processor models last week. Considering how long it's taken to finally have G5s available after talking about them seemingly for years, another week or two certainly isn't going to kill anyone. For anyone willing to cancel their order over such a trivial delay, you REALLY need to get a life. Frankly I doubt most of the people doing most of the complaining ever actually placed a real order anyway...

[glowrider]

I, for one, have been waiting two months since I placed my order and was highly anticipating a shipping date today in order to receive my g5 by the time school starts. That may seem 'trivial' to you, but I am obligated to ship off my tibook this afternoon as it was sold on eBay...I'm not the only one I know that will be without a computer for a while should the 9/26 date be true. While I anticipate receiving mine much sooner, what gives you the right, Lancetx, to criticize those who are pissed that Apple had a delivery date set up until 1 hour before that day? They, we, have done nothing of fault, and we are rightly pissed off.

[MacFix]

Ok been delayed also to the 9/26 ( from 9/2) but reading all others post i wonder if that 9/26 is only for those with built to order options ( wich normally takes longer than standard config to ship )

anyone that got delayed can confirm that he ordered built to order option....

thx

[redcalx]

I have a shipping date of Oct 9th, so I'm obvioulsy unaffected by this but I have to say this is really poor customer service on apples part.

For a company thats trying so desperately to drum up business with slick looking designs masking unbelievable technology, they sure are lacking in the no-brainer depts.

If I had a 8/29 date and it had changed, I would cancel my order for sure... and I'm a longtime mac user. bastards.

[glowrider]

i was radeon 9800 and airport extreme...not a huge deal if you ask me

[BicyclePunk]

Oh yeah....I didn't even think of the built to order thing. I did that, too. Still, I plunked down over three grand, and I'd like to have this machine. And yes....I figured it would be September, but I thought that maybe...just maybe...I would get it when Apple said it would come. But as long as I get it in 2003 so I can write it off, I'll be happy.

[pjhornak]

Originally posted by Lancetx
They aren't all going to be delayed until the end of September, but did anyone really believe that EVERY pre-order was going to ship on 8/29? Some of them will ship starting today I'm sure, just not anywhere near all of them. I think it's rather unrealistic for anyone to believe that Apple would ship over 50,000 systems in one day.

Apple said they would start shipping duals on 8/29, just as they said the 1.6 & 1.8s would start shipping on 8/18. As we all saw, most stores didn't actually start getting the singles in stock for another week after that and the same will hold true with the duals. I just can't believe that so many people are this surprised considering what just happened with the single processor models last week. Considering how long it's taken to finally have G5s available after talking about them seemingly for years, another week or two certainly isn't going to kill anyone. For anyone willing to cancel their order over such a trivial delay, you REALLY need to get a life. Frankly I doubt most of the people doing most of the complaining ever actually placed a real order anyway...

The only person who can qualify the delay as "trivial" is a person who didn't actually place a "real" order...

The problem is again as I had mentioned before is that Steve-o stood up in front of the world and promised this ... there is a press release on the Apple webiste apple.com/pr dated the 18 August "we're right on track to deliver the dual 2.0 GHz Power Mac G5 later this month." Without all of that and other things people's expectations would have not have been set and there wouldn't be all these posts... we have lives we Apple to perform on the contract that was created when we placed our orders. There is pleanty Apple could do ... the first is shipping the computers... People who placed orders are surprised because of what Steve-o said and the press release Apple posted itself on it's own official website....you need to get a clue...

[pcp_ip]

interesting. my shipping has moved even further. A 6/23 order due to ship today was changed to 9/26 this morning and now it's at 9/29

why do i feel like I'll end up seeing this machine in October?

[MacFix]

you may call me a forever optimist...but here is what i think shipping schedule will be like...

they will be shipping standard dual config today/tommorow and along sept the built to order configs will ship has they become ready....

maybe custom configs are assembled in another facilitie ? anyone know ??

[glowrider]

Yep, mine is now pushed back to 9/29..."POWER MAC G5 20GHZDP CTO
Open Est. Ship 09/29/2003"

[rundevilrun]

Originally posted by glowrider
I, for one, have been waiting two months since I placed my order and was highly anticipating a shipping date today in order to receive my g5 by the time school starts. That may seem 'trivial' to you, but I am obligated to ship off my tibook this afternoon as it was sold on eBay...I'm not the only one I know that will be without a computer for a while should the 9/26 date be true.

I'm in the same situation, I agreed to sell my G4 to my boss who is buying it for his son to use at college. Since my ship date was still 8/29 as of yesterday, I told him I could get him my G4 by next weekend. Now I have to go buy a big firewire hard drive to use with my powerbook to move all my stuff off the g4.

And now I'm convinced that Apple's order tracking system is completely useless, if my G5 is close enough that they felt 8/29 was still possible I'd expect any last minute delays to push shipment back only a couple days at most. That may happen but right now I feel outright lied to. I can understand delays but less than 24 hours notice? No pre-ordering for me ever from now on!

[glowrider]

My Dell's always shipped on or before time...but they are the best at that...

[MadMan]

FWIW, CTO could be the reason that some of these orders are being pushed back...

WAY back when, I ordered my TiBook 500 as a CTO kit when Steve was still on stage. All I added was an airport card, but that caused it's ship date to slide, like these G5's, to way after the first batch of stock PB's were already out the door. Luckily, I found a 500 at my local CompUSA. I was able to cancel my order (it wasn't in "production" yet) and bought it from them.

Ever since then, I've never pre-ordered anything that wasn't a stock config. Seems CTO's need a "personal" touch while the stocks models just roll off the line without any hold up.

I know this doesn't help those who got their dates bumped, but may provide a little insight.

MM

[jZilla]

Originally posted by MadMan
FWIW, CTO could be the reason that some of these orders are being pushed back...

WAY back when, I ordered my TiBook 500 as a CTO kit when Steve was still on stage. All I added was an airport card, but that caused it's ship date to slide, like these G5's, to way after the first batch of stock PB's were already out the door. Luckily, I found a 500 at my local CompUSA. I was able to cancel my order (it wasn't in "production" yet) and bought it from them.

Ever since then, I've never pre-ordered anything that wasn't a stock config. Seems CTO's need a "personal" touch while the stocks models just roll off the line without any hold up.

I know this doesn't help those who got their dates bumped, but may provide a little insight.

MM

I added a 9800 and asked if this would delay my order. I was told that only HDD was likely to do so as the card was easy to change on the production line.

No idea if that was a sop to get the order or not (but I guess I'll find out if others ship and mine doesn't!)

[mark_wilkins]

Well, I called up, asked to cancel, and they knocked $150 off my order!

Some people are getting offered less, but I thought it was enough of a gesture to keep me in line. :D

-- Mark

[Genie]

They knocked $150 off mine too.

This is about what one months worth of depreciation is worth, so it's just fair.

What's not fair is giving no warning.
People are making plans and structuring their work-lives based on the vapor-ship-dates.

That's not good for Apple's brand.

[hayesk]

Originally posted by glowrider
My Dell's always shipped on or before time...but they are the best at that...

Have you ever ordered a Dell with a brand new architecture, chip, case, etc.? Dell usually doesn't do anything radical - a slightly faster chip, a bigger hard disk, etc. - their machines always change gradually so there is no pent up demand. When people want a new PC, they just pick what's available - they don't wait for months and months for the next best thing.

I'm sure in a month or so, there will be few or no delays in the G5 line too.

[applewhore]

Attn: GENIE and mark_wilken

First thing in the morning I called up service support concerning compensation for the extended shipping delay and I was told they are not authorized to offer rebates to customers concerning this matter. Under what circumstances did they decide to offer you this rebate? Are you in a different country? Did you order Educational or regular, etc? Thanks

[mark_wilkins]

Yeah, I didn't ask for a rebate. I read on here that they were offering discounts for some people who threatened to cancel, so I called up. I and the rep had the following conversation:


me: "I'd like to cancel my order."

him: "Why?"

me: "I don't want to wait another month."

him: "Is there anything we can do for you on price to keep your order?"

me: "Price? What do you mean?"

him: "Well, if we reduced the price, would you keep your order open?"

me: "If it were a substantial amount of money, maybe."

him: "I'm not sure it would be 'substantial,' but we might be able to do something. What would it take to keep your order?"

me: "I don't know, what can you do for me? I could imagine that saving some money might make a difference."

him: "Let me check."

<five minutes on hold.>

him: "Would $150 off make a difference in keeping your order open?"

me: "Hmm... Sure, I'll keep the order open."


Worth noting that it's possible you'll do this and they'll say "OK, it's cancelled!" :D

-- Mark

[Genie]

I would just very nicely say, hey- one month's depreciation on a computer this expensive is worth $150.

So, what can you do to keep my order?

If you say "nothing", I'll have to just wait for revision B in January.

if you can't give me the $$ off, give me it in free software, or free [you name it], or GUARANTEE me free Panther.

[MattG]

Originally posted by rundevilrun
Now I have to go buy a big firewire hard drive to use with my powerbook to move all my stuff off the g4.

Get an iPod! It's a perfect excuse ;)

[lord_flash]

Originally posted by hayesk
When people want a new PC, they just pick what's available - they don't wait for months and months for the next best thing.
I'm sure in a month or so, there will be few or no delays in the G5 line too.

But there will be a forum full of Mac users waiting for the next best thing... :rolleyes:

[rundevilrun]

Originally posted by MattG
Get an iPod! It's a perfect excuse ;)
Hmm a 250Gig iPod? I'll take one! I needed more storage anyway, I picked up a Maxtor 250G 7200rpm 8M cache firewire from compusa for 350. I think somebody screwed up, they were selling the 7200rpm drive at the same price as the 5400rpm. Works great so far.

[Genie]

Did Apple give you a discount for the delay in shipping your G5?

[applewhore]

No discount. They said they would be more than happy to cancel my dual order for me. Bastards. I don't how you guys pulled off the $150 discount.

[two_tail]

I don't know how you guys will like this:

Many people who had their orders delayed got a notice that it would ship within 10-15 business days.

If you put in an order for a dual-2.0GHz G5, non-BTO configuration, you are given 10-15 business days estimated shipping time. If you try to go for a BTO configuration (in my case, adding a Radeon 9800), it's still 10-15 business days.

Let's hope the pre-orders go out before the newly-placed orders!

[rundevilrun]

Mine said 3-4 weeks. I sent an email asking if there's any changes I can make to speed up the ship date. If compusa gets a stock dual before mine ships, I'm definitely going to cancel my bto.

[MattG]

My Dual G5 order still shows that it's going to ship out....TODAY. We'll see...