Apple Reseller Says "G5's in July"

[Hemingray]

So I'm in my local Apple Reseller's store to pick up my replacement mouse and the rep starts telling me about their deals they have on their CRT iMacs. I tell him I have a G4 400 PCI and I won't be upgrading until I see....

Him: "...More megahertz?"
Me: "Nope, I don't really care about MHz. I'm waiting on bus speed."
Him: "Oh yeah, that's coming, wait a few months. G5's in July."

That wasn't verbatim, but I distinctly heard him say "G5's" and "July".

Do I believe him? No, not really. :D I've learned not to hold my breath. If it were true, I don't think they'd be so open about it. Just thought maybe you guys would be interested in hearing that.

I know I am. :cool:

[Rower_CPU]

Don't tell Steve. He'll have this guys head on a platter!

IF this guy knows what he's talking about, as unlikely as that is, I'm really looking forward to MWNY...getting up at 6 to watch the keynote is a sacrifice I'm willing to make. :D

[menoinjun]

There's a mac rep who comes into my store every weekend, and he seems to think that we'll see G5's in july also. To tell you the truth, Apple doesn't let any info like that out to any rep or reseller, so I am taking this very skeptically. As should everyone.

-Pete

[Rower_CPU]

Unless of course the infamous "inside source" knows these guys and is telling them things better left unsaid...

[Mr. Anderson]

This is an Apple reseller, right? For all you know he's one of the top posters on SpyMac! I don't by it, the source isn't much better than anything around here. If this guy somehow talked to someone that new something was in the works, yeah, that's it....

But, I would love to see G5s in July. I just don't think it will happen.

We haven't even had WWDC yet, and there will be something new then.

Oh the waitings painful;)

[madamimadam]

My friend's wife's sister's dog's friend's master is a VP at Apple and the insider goss getting spread around is that there will be some speed bumps in July.

I don't know if I should trust it, though

[Hemingray]

I don't believe him anymore than you guys do. I'm just passing on what he said. I could have let it go, but after all what are sites like this for? ;)

[madamimadam]

Originally posted by Hemingray
I don't believe him anymore than you guys do. I'm just passing on what he said. I could have let it go, but after all what are sites like this for? ;)

Hey, no complaints from here.... I think it is funny that they are making comments like that with no factual basis. Even better if we don't get G5s in July, I would love to go back to see his face with you.
:)

[Taft]

...but I have a feeling that I shouldn't get my hopes up. I might just get my heart broken.

Just like tonight. I had plans all set for my 155 million big game jackpot. I was crushed when my tickets didn't win. Crushed I tells ya.

Matthew

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by madamimadamtimallen


Hey, no complaints from here.... I think it is funny that they are making comments like that with no factual basis. Even better if we don't get G5s in July, I would love to go back to see his face with you.
:)

You can bet I'll be going back if I don't order a G5 this July. :D

[Timothy]

If your local resellers are anything like my local resellers, any information they may give you must be suspect.

In my experience, Apple treats these resellers much like mushrooms.;)

[iGav]

Whatever happens....

This place is going to go bonkers around MWNY....... It's going to be mental.... And I for one can't wait.....

You thought MWSF was mad..........:p

[rEd Eye]

My mac dealer appeared quite certain that the dual G4 was at the end of the G4 tower line.I inquired as I was handing her the cash,so maybe that loosened her up some.If this is the case,there probably will be a G5 in July.Actually,I would bank on it myself.But I sure won't buy the first revision regardless!So not too much excitement here.

[freedom]

Shouldn´t an Apple salesperson
keep his mouth shut about G5´s
in july, and sell the customer
an expensive G4 instead?

That´s no way to do bizniz!

I know I wouldn´t let the
customer keep his money
´til July…

If there is a serious upgrade
coming, the buyer will probably
buy that one as well.
I know it´s not a "nice" way
of conducting bizniz, but it
sure is profitable…
And Apple needs it.

[macmunch]

There are so many "Specials for Power Macs" (Here in Germany)
:)


They want to sell all there stocks.

You get the new and the old PM with Displays for very good prices.

100% there will be a new PM in July or in August
But is it a G5 or G4 ?

we will see, but I think it will be very Powerful.

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by freedom
Shouldn´t an Apple salesperson
keep his mouth shut about G5´s
in july, and sell the customer
an expensive G4 instead?

That´s no way to do bizniz!

I know I wouldn´t let the
customer keep his money
´til July…

Yes, but I told him flat-out that I wasn't interested in upgrading until they hiked the bus speed, and that got him talking. Plus, he was trying to sell me a CRT iMac, not a G4! That in itself is suspect... ;)

[Mr. Anderson]

We all know change is around the corner. But the 'deals' aren't that great yet. $100 off an Airport Base Station? A Linksys wireless 4 port router is more thatn $100 less than a basestation to begin with. It was a better deal when they were offering up $500 on a Apple Cinema Display.

But then again,we've got a few more months before the actual event. And WWDC is just around the corner. I'm more interested in what's going to happen in less than a month when the planets align on the 6th.:D

[Macmaniac]

We can all dream of walking up to that local reseller and he tells you, "oh ya I got one of those G5 thingies in the back."

[sjs]

The announcement of G5 will be the biggest Apple event since the new iMac and before that the new OS(X).

And a RESELLER knows this? Come on. We all have too much time on our hands.

Of course, this kind of stuff does make for a nice 30 second break in the middle of a busy day.

[Mr. Anderson]

I happened to be in an Apple store this evening and asked one of the clerks about the G5, and his answer is that he wasn't even allowed to speculate with customers and that Apple tells them absolutely nothing.

I doubt the Apple reseller could have known anything given that Apple cracks down so on their own employees. It just doesn't make sense.

[eirik]

I acquired further information about the upcoming G5 in July from a palm reader that works at an Apple Store part time as a showcase designer:

I see a new cheeeip. Larrrrger, muuuuch larrrrrrrger than any before. I see menny, menny layers...layer upon layer. I see naaaames of compounds...silicon germanium and others that I don't understand. I hear someone saying that the RAM...no the cache...no the RAM. What's dees, they are one and the same. On the low-end (low-end of what?), there will be two giga something. The high-end (what is a high-end?), a man in jeans is saying, will run at feeefty geeega hortz. The mother of the board, there will be no mother, not as you know it. The cheeip is the mother; the mother is the cheeip. The man in the jeans is saying, 'its all on the cheeip'. There is thunderous applause at this proclamation. I feel tired now, very tired.

Unfortunately, I had no more cash on hand to revive her. She wearily walked away and that was the last I saw of her. I returned the next day and asked the store manager about her. He told me he'd never heard of her and that no one of that description had ever worked there. I looked up her palm reading place and found that it was now a hair salon. It hadn't been a palm reading place since 1984, when the madame died of a stroke during the super bowl.

Seriously though, I'd love to see a G5, as we speculate it to be, this summer.

Cheers,

Eirik

[iGav]

heh heh heh.......:p

G5 @ MWNY have to admit though... it has a nice ring to it......:D

[Spock]

Macworld July,

-Powermac G5 dual 1.7ghz

-Powerbook 1ghz+Superdrive

-iMac 1ghz-$1799 800mhz-$1499 700mhz-@1299

-iBook 800mhz G3

iMac G3 600mhz-$399.00

-Airport cards no longer an option, it is built in all mac systems across lines

-iNet Apple ISP with iTools Pro

How do I know this?? Steve beamed aboard the Enterprise and told me.

[quanta]

i just wanted to take the opportunity to point out that this is my 30th post and i am no longer a newbie. Thank you very much.

BTW, i heard (and mind you, this is on good faith as the information comes directly from God) they are going to skip the G5 altogether and go straight to a line of G6s. Honest.

Yee hah!

[madamimadam]

Originally posted by Spock
Macworld July,

-Powermac G5 dual 1.7ghz

-Powerbook 1ghz+Superdrive

-iMac 1ghz-$1799 800mhz-$1499 700mhz-@1299

-iBook 800mhz G3

iMac G3 600mhz-$399.00

-Airport cards no longer an option, it is built in all mac systems across lines

-iNet Apple ISP with iTools Pro

How do I know this?? Steve beamed aboard the Enterprise and told me.

I just want to mention that the G5 is only supposed to go up to 2GHz so I would not be wishing for a 1.7GHz just yet
:)

[rt_brained]

I wasn't gonna mention it, but the other day I had a bean burrito. Later, I had to lean over and let one go, and I swear it sounded like, "Gee-fiii-ju-ly."

No word on colors yet, but I keep seeing brown, so...

[macilosh]

I was walking along minding my own business when suddenly I was overtaken by, well... something that reeked of Apple sauce... I had a flash of consciousness and a shiny new (albeit brown) tower loomed in the distance... I walked in as if in a dream and entered the elevator... the buttons read from "G" for ground to G5, the penthouse...

the aroma lifted and I was back at my Powerbook 100 waiting for the 11Mhz processor to boot up...

[freedom]

Hey!
There seems to be some kind of logic thinkin´
behind the ideaa of G5´s in july…
Powermacs with G4 @ (2x) 1000 mhz,
then the upgrade to G5 @ 1200 mhz.
And upwards of course…
New ram (higher bus speed; ddr)
updated firewire and usb, airport
standard as well as combodrives…

[cb911]

G5's in July would really make sense and fit nicely into Apples release schedule. the TiBooks are being released at WWDC, which will leave MWNY for the G5!

[macilosh]

Careful there... what if nothing but a speed bump comes of WWDC and MWNY... so much hype can get a brain crazy. That would really piss some folks off!

[fukuhela]

Am I the only one that is starting to think there wont be a G5 at all?

The more rumors I hear the more certain I get that the G5 is dead and we will get stock at 1 - 1,4 Ghz G4 range. Apple has annouced that this summer they will start an aggresive campaign at the windows users (to get them converted). But what is the deal? An expensive computer wich runs at highest 1GHz?

[Spock]

Madamimadamtimallen,I fail to see how you received any information of the speed of the G5 for all we know it could be a dual 800mhz with some sort of Ultravec2 or some crap like that. The actual speed of the G5 is purley Speculation I bet Steve dose not even know the speed of the G5 "If their is a G5 on it's way" I just said 1.7 for the sake of the post. Next are you going the post that my transporter won't transport from Earth to orbit??

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Don't tell Steve. He'll have this guys head on a platter!

IF this guy knows what he's talking about, as unlikely as that is, I'm really looking forward to MWNY...getting up at 6 to watch the keynote is a sacrifice I'm willing to make. :D

steve jobs is a marketing genius...sometimes the best buzz is a leak, but not always

[macstudent]

Originally posted by Spock
Macworld July,


-Airport cards no longer an option, it is built in all mac systems across lines



I don't see this happening. Airport is not neccessary for everyone, espically on desktop systems. It would simply add to much to the overall cost of lowend systems. On the otherhand, if it was standard and you were given the option of removing the card for $100 less I would be all for it.

But if the cost of the machine stayed the same and you were given an airport card, I guess I could always sell it on ebay.

[macstudent]

If and when the G5's come out this summer, do you think that they will be on every level of the pro line? Or will it only be available on the top, or two top models?

I hope this is not the case since I will be buying the $1699 model this summer whatever it is. I guess I might fork over the extra money if $2299 got me a g5, but I would prefer a lowend g5 over a midrange g5.

[madamimadam]

Originally posted by Spock
Madamimadamtimallen,I fail to see how you received any information of the speed of the G5 for all we know it could be a dual 800mhz with some sort of Ultravec2 or some crap like that. The actual speed of the G5 is purley Speculation I bet Steve dose not even know the speed of the G5 "If their is a G5 on it's way" I just said 1.7 for the sake of the post. Next are you going the post that my transporter won't transport from Earth to orbit??

It is called a roadmap
If you had posted to as many of these theads as I have you would know it off by heart. G5 = 800MHz - 2GHz+ just like the G4 = 1GHz+

[madamimadam]

Originally posted by macstudent


I don't see this happening. Airport is not neccessary for everyone, espically on desktop systems. It would simply add to much to the overall cost of lowend systems. On the otherhand, if it was standard and you were given the option of removing the card for $100 less I would be all for it.

But if the cost of the machine stayed the same and you were given an airport card, I guess I could always sell it on ebay.

Firewire and Ethernet are not necessary for most users either but they still come standard. It would not suprise me if they SLOWLY started adding Airport stanard into the machines, along with Bluetooth. I would imagine they would start with the portables and then work their way around the board over time.

[buffsldr]

I expect we will not see g5 until mwsf, but it would be verrrry nice.

[madamimadam]

Originally posted by buffsldr
I expect we will not see g5 until mwsf, but it would be verrrry nice.

What it comes down to is that, at MWNY, we are going to HAVE to see something new. It could be a redesigned G4 but I would hope that it is a G5. If it is not a G5, Apple will really start falling behind the market. At least a G5 at MYNY would be like MacOS X.0, a product that has known failures but through release has had them worked out.

[buffsldr]

It seems like apple strategy is less about hardware and more about ease of use at this point (software,etc.) The only product that is "due" for an update is the TiBook

[sinbushar]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Don't tell Steve. He'll have this guys head on a platter!





**** yo!...i was thinking the exact same thing when i read it...then i saw yours and said ****

[Hemingray]

Thanks arn.

[eyelikeart]

what exactly is going on in here?! :confused:

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
what exactly is going on in here?! :confused:

You mean arn editing sinbushar's post?

[agoldweber]

ok, a few things here...

if there is a new roll-out of redesigned G4s or new G5s, when do you all think those will hit the street? when will the announcement(s) lead to a price drop on the current line?

also, if the G5 is coming within the year, do you think current G4s will be upgradeable to the new chip? will new bus speeds prevent this?

I really should stop reading this stuff cos I'm in the market to buy in June and I'd hate to be the last on the line for current G4. I'd really be fuming if a redesigned line adds audio inputs, etc.... and all of this reading is making me nervous! I just need to bite the bullet and buy!

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
what exactly is going on in here?! :confused:

sinbushar posted spam. (Picture his one sentence post repeated 200 times.)

I reported it, and Arn edited out all the repeated sentences.

Stuff like that just wastes loading time and space.

[mcrain]

Originally posted by madamimadamtimallen
If it is not a G5, Apple will really start falling behind the market.

I hate to say this, but Apple is behind the market already, otherwise it would not be 5% or less.

That being said, Apple seems pretty comfortable in its niche catering for its highly loyale market. I for one am switching from PC to mac as soon as the next powerbook comes out, however, I'm not loyal, I just see macs as better.

If they don't revise the product I want, I'll find another laptop from someone else, doubtless, another pc, but with 3 gig chip or some other crazy specs that no amount of megahertz myth advertising will be able to defuse.

Dear Lord,

Please make Jobs do something at New York.

St. McIntosh,

Pray for us sinners and give us the G5

St. QuickSilver

Pray for us sinners and bump Powerbook's speed

St. Tibook

Pray for us sinners and give us a mobile superdrive or iDVD that works with an external firewire DVD-r

St. Jobs

Pray for us sinners and give me a better reason to buy an apple and kick the fallen angel Gates to the curb.

[macstudent]

Amen

[Dunepilot]

God's hand reaches down from Infinite Loop, full of what looks like all manner of new Macintosh goodies .....

And then you realise it's only firewire 2. Oh s h i t.

[madamimadam]

Originally posted by agoldweber
ok, a few things here...

if there is a new roll-out of redesigned G4s or new G5s, when do you all think those will hit the street? when will the announcement(s) lead to a price drop on the current line?

also, if the G5 is coming within the year, do you think current G4s will be upgradeable to the new chip? will new bus speeds prevent this?

I really should stop reading this stuff cos I'm in the market to buy in June and I'd hate to be the last on the line for current G4. I'd really be fuming if a redesigned line adds audio inputs, etc.... and all of this reading is making me nervous! I just need to bite the bullet and buy!

If you bought an EOL G4, life would not be so bad. SURE, a G4 is not as fast as a G5 BUT if you buy a G4 now you know that you arn't going to be plagued with design bugs. What happens if you buy the first G5 to realise that a small bug was not noticed or not fixable in time and you have to put up with it or sell your G5 for a G4?

G4 now = safe and FAST

[madamimadam]

Originally posted by mcrain
I hate to say this, but Apple is behind the market already, otherwise it would not be 5% or less.

I really do beg to differ.... what do you think the average market share is? The only company that can claim to blow 5% out of the water is Dell.

[jefhatfield]

pcdata...zdzet..dats all

read up, me friend and then decide:D


in other words, we can be doing a lot better

[mcrain]

Originally posted by madamimadamtimallen
SURE, a G4 is not as fast as a G5 BUT if you buy a G4 now you know that you arn't going to be plagued with design bugs. What happens if you buy the first G5 to realise that a small bug was not noticed or not fixable in time and you have to put up with it or sell your G5 for a G4?

G4 now = safe and FAST

But, if I wait and buy a G5 and it has design bugs, I'm certain Apple won't leave me in the cold.

So, a G5 later = less safety, Apple fixes any bugs, and FASTER

If I'm wrong about apple fixing bugs in early releases, please let me know, and I'll start checking out the Dell/Gateway rumor boards.

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by mcrain
So, a G5 later = less safety, Apple fixes any bugs, and FASTER


The only thing is how long are we going to wait. Its a gamble both ways. If you're loosing productivity by waiting on a machine that has no set availability, then you shouldn't wait. The other side of the coin, you might buy the newest G4 and then want to shoot yourself when the G5s come out a month later.

Face the facts that you'll only have the fastest machine for a little while, no matter what.

I have two G4s, a TiPB and a 450 MHz Sawtooth. I can afford to wait, and that's what I'm doing. You need to decide for yourself what you can do.

[sinbushar]

just wanted to apologize....i'm out of school for the weeek..giving me excess energy..combine with all the G5 talk and...well you see what happens....just wanted to apologize to everyone...:cool: :rolleyes: :D

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by dukestreet


The only thing is how long are we going to wait. Its a gamble both ways. If you're loosing productivity by waiting on a machine that has no set availability, then you shouldn't wait. The other side of the coin, you might buy the newest G4 and then want to shoot yourself when the G5s come out a month later.

Face the facts that you'll only have the fastest machine for a little while, no matter what.

I have two G4s, a TiPB and a 450 MHz Sawtooth. I can afford to wait, and that's what I'm doing. You need to decide for yourself what you can do.

oh me gosh, spare this little hatfield a gfours:p

[madamimadam]

Originally posted by mcrain


But, if I wait and buy a G5 and it has design bugs, I'm certain Apple won't leave me in the cold.

So, a G5 later = less safety, Apple fixes any bugs, and FASTER

If I'm wrong about apple fixing bugs in early releases, please let me know, and I'll start checking out the Dell/Gateway rumor boards.

It is a good point and I answer with 2 statements:
1) if G5 = midyear, I PROBABLY will be buying the first model G5 (depends on funds)
2) if you can afford to wait for fixes IF there are bugs (and I say IF) then you would be better off with a G5, it will last you FAR longer, BUT if you need a machine that is going to work all the time and you have no time to wait for fixes that could be a while in the making, go the new G4s, they are a FANTASTIC machine.

[Hemingray]

Originally posted by sinbushar
just wanted to apologize....i'm out of school for the weeek..giving me excess energy..combine with all the G5 talk and...well you see what happens....just wanted to apologize to everyone...:cool: :rolleyes: :D

No hard feelings! :D Man, what I wouldn't give to be off for a week...

[thopter]

If a reseller tells you he has inside info, he's lying.
I work for one in one of the major US cities. It's my bother-in-laws company.
I'm a fine artist/software guru. I have 2 co-workers: a hardware/networking
expert, and a phone/customer service guy. We service the local Pro market (printers, photographers, and increasingly video guys).
I also know our local Apple rep. He MIGHT glean some inside stuff a couple of days before a release, but thats the extent of it. WE don't get squat for advance knowledge.