Post count issues

[OutThere]

Today I broke 300 posts...and I left MR at 301, when I came back this evening I had 299 posts. Can anyone explain how my post count went down in a few hours?

[Billicus]

Originally posted by OutThere761
Today I broke 300 posts...and I left MR at 301, when I came back this evening I had 299 posts. Can anyone explain how my post count went down in a few hours?

You probably had 2 posts in a thread that got wastelanded.

[rainman::|:|]

for the record, don't pay too much attention to post counts. most of the rest of us just ignore them.. as long as you're not a newbie :)

pnw

[vniow]

I agree, but I just figured out that mine has been chopped of 400 posts or so, no big deal but its just rather strange..

[Sun Baked]

Looks like he'll have another post getting wasted soon.

Other than that...

[mactastic]

Weird. I'm at like half the post count I had this morning. Not that it matters much, but weird. 500+ posts wastlanded?

[Kwyjibo]

hmmm i'm sure arn will explain it when he has more information....b2tm lost like 100 posts and many ppl lost more that two so don't worry soo much...i'm sure the issue will be resolved shortly

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by vniow
I agree, but I just figured out that mine has been chopped of 400 posts or so, no big deal but its just rather strange..

Haha, I PM'ed arn about this.

I looked at the top 10 and I noticed you had dropped over 300+ posts...

:o

Did like someone delete a section or something?

[wdlove]

Originally posted by MrMacman
Haha, I PM'ed arn about this.

I looked at the top 10 and I noticed you had dropped over 300+ posts...

:o

Did like someone delete a section or something?

Yes, I just noticed that I also dropped over 350+ posts. Does this mean that I have done something wrong? Do you know if they will be restored at some point?

[King Cobra]

Do we really need three discussions of the same topic?

arn was about to reply to one ot the threads (I caught him by looking at the Who's Online list). He knows about the situation.

Give him some time to work things out. He'll have answers, as usual.

[applemacdude]

I had 894 posta yesterday, I have 857 posts today. Strange, but probaly wastelanded..

[Backtothemac]

Yesterday, I had over 4,700, and today I have 3,812.

:(

It's not about the count, but it is you know.

I am way out of the top 10 now :(

It was posts in the political forums that went south .

[arn]

At one point, Politcal Forums were removed from the post count... as well, the wastelanded posts don't count to post counts.

Changes like this kick-in when the forum rebuilds the post counts.

The forum rebuilt the post counts today.

arn

[Macmaniac]

I can remember the big post count races of the earlier days. Now that we can't see what we have easily it has cut down on alot of the spam. Some things are better hidden.

[MrMacMan]

Wait...

"At one point, Politcal Forums were removed from the post count"

But are those posts coming back?

We all know wastelanded stuff never comes back, but will those posts?

But I have noticed *daily* changes like that.

Like when I had posted 4 posts in a thread, the thread got wastelanded and when I checked back the next day 4 Posts were gone, but somehow...

Today did...

:confused:

[arn]

Originally posted by MrMacman
Wait...

"At one point, Politcal Forums were removed from the post count"


nope

arn

[Durandal7]

I was wondering about this as well. I had checked my post count a few days ago and was about to pass 3000, now I'm around 2880.

[MacAztec]

Haha, I don't think I lost a single post. Good fer me!

[GeeYouEye]

Thanks for the clarification arn. That explains why I dropped a rank.

edit: and it looks like I lost 200 posts. Wow... didn't realize I'd been THAT active in the political forum... especially since I left it months ago.

[Juventuz]

I lost a bit as well, oh well guess I'll just have to post a bit more to get to that elusive avatar number.

[Billicus]

I never post in the political forums, and rarely in a thread that gets wastelanded, so I'm safe. On a different topic, that avatar looks familiar MacAztec...:eek:

[Doctor Q]

I think pseudobrit lost the largest percentage, going from almost 2500 posts down to 940 (if I'm remembering right).

[MrMacMan]

Can someone please explain this in Moron Terms?

I can't seem to understand.

Up to this point Political Forum counted to post count... and now it doesn't?
:confused:

If so I want to be heard in Political Forums, if I'm just wasteing time posting there, my message blowing in the wind screw that.

[Doctor Q]

If vBulletin can be set so it doesn't count certain forums in the post counts when it does its periodic rebuilds, I wonder why it counts the posts in those forums when they are first made.

[Kwyjibo]

i guess the point is to stop ppl from a few things, some of these may mean you many probably don't

1) so that ppl don't get status that should relate to their knowledge of macs from posting their poltical views
2) people are more about a good debate rather than just posting the same ideas over again because they can and because the benefited under the old system
3)it attracts less trolls

these are my opinion...i like the new system, sorry for all of you that lost huge post counts but to me its alot like the def. of a geek thread....should someone get like 500 posts just from that...probably not.

[tazo]

Originally posted by Doctor Q
I think pseudobrit lost the largest percentage, going from almost 2500 posts down to 940 (if I'm remembering right).

**** that is a lot to lose;

I am down about 100 to almost 1900.

[eyelikeart]

hey guys...it shouldn't be news that posts in the Wasteland aren't counted...arn's gone over this many times in the past...

granted, it's a bit shocking to see them all deducted at once...but it's just the same if they'd been taken away a few at a time over a period of time... ;)

[arn]

A few things...

1) Post counts matter very little.

2) The only major advantage it gains you is an avatar. If there's a regular user who is significantly affected by this, let me know... but the reason for the change is that the Political Forums are an extra feature for regular users... and should NOT be the major draw to this site. New users posting only to the Political forums should not be really considered part of the community and therefore should not be able to earn an avatar on those grounds alone.

arn

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by arn
A few things...

1) Post counts matter very little.

2) The only major advantage it gains you is an avatar. If there's a regular user who is significantly affected by this, let me know... but the reason for the change is that the Political Forums are an extra feature for regular users... and should NOT be the major draw to this site. New users posting only to the Political forums should not be really considered part of the community and therefore should not be able to earn an avatar on those grounds alone.

arn

But now I am not in the top 10 says backtothemac as tears of sadness roll down his face :(

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
But now I am not in the top 10 says backtothemac as tears of sadness roll down his face :(

u also have "dell" in your sig man... :eek: ;)

[arn]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
u also have "dell" in your sig man... :eek: ;)

heh...

yep - in fact, this was an intricate design to punish backtothemac for purchasing a dell. ;)

arn

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by arn
heh...

yep - in fact, this was an intricate design to punish backtothemac for purchasing a dell. ;)

arn

Wh, Wha, What!

Hey, change my name to BacktothePC so I can get flamed a little more ;)

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
Wh, Wha, What!

Hey, change my name to BacktothePC so I can get flamed a little more ;)

than it wouldn't be as much fun... ;)

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
than it wouldn't be as much fun... ;)

Yea,, but can you imagine the response that I would get in the community. That would be very, very funny.

And, it would give the Mods a lot to do;)

[janey]

cant be political forum.
i rarely post in there and my post count went down ~600 posts

Can't be wastelanded posts...my threads and posts got deducted right after they got wastelanded
Its possible that my estimates are off by ~50, but 600 seems outrageous.
Oh well.

[scem0]

my main loss was from the geek thread ;)....

as was uber's i'm sure.

As was shadowfax's Im sure.

Oh what A fine thread :p ;).

scem0

[Backtothemac]

Yea, it was shocking to go to the top 10 today, and see that I wasn't there. I thought I had been banned or something.

Then went to page 2, and there I was over 1,000 posts down.
:(

[janey]

Originally posted by scem0
my main loss was from the geek thread ;)....

as was uber's i'm sure.

As was shadowfax's Im sure.
and vniow...and ibookin...
well IIRC those geek thread posts were deducted from my post count when it was wastelanded, i remember josh telling me about how my post count fell a LOT. Well, that was nothing compared to this.

Oh well, it's only a loss of 600 or so points. I still have my nice Clarus avatar :)

edit: HOLY S*IT!!!!! MR 68000 :(
damn, i thought it waid MR 68020...

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by übergeek
and vniow...and ibookin...
well IIRC those geek thread posts were deducted from my post count when it was wastelanded, i remember josh telling me about how my post count fell a LOT. Well, that was nothing compared to this.

Oh well, it's only a loss of 600 or so points. I still have my nice Clarus avatar :)

edit: HOLY S*IT!!!!! MR 68000 :(
damn, i thought it waid MR 68020...

Yea, I know it is crushing, but we will make it through it.

;)

[pseudobrit]

Damn, I'm down to a 6502.

I thought I was past the 8-bit arena.

[tazo]

Pseudo, how come no 'tar?

And yes, we will all work through this together ;)

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by tazo
Pseudo, how come no 'tar?

And yes, we will all work through this together ;)

Lets just hold hands, sing a song, make some popcorn, and watch Jay and Silent Bob strikes back.

That should make us feel better.

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by tazo
**** that is a lot to lose;

I am down about 100 to almost 1900.

i lost maybe four or five hundred but that's ok...i am a 601 and i think the next level is so far away that losing those posts did not make a difference anyway ;)

the main thing is that there are the sections for rumors and general mac discussion and that still is the area where i learn a lot concerning the mac...the rest is fun but secondary like political and community posts

i think after five hundred posts, it's all basically the same and the only thing anyone notices is what your avatar is...as long as it does not change too much...i remember eyelikeart's avatar which was the same for so long and the famous spinning head avatar that scem0 used to have which caused such a controversy:p

[Durandal7]

I don't care that my post count went down, this is just confirmation that I was not imagining things.

[Mr. Anderson]

What I do find a little interesting is that how many people know how many posts they lost....;)

I lost some and I have no idea how many (not that it matters, anyway).

I do wonder if anyone lost enough to lose the 'tar.....

D

[britboy]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
Yea,, but can you imagine the response that I would get in the community. That would be very, very funny.

And, it would give the Mods a lot to do;)


As if you don't give them enough to do already ;)

If so many are keeping a tight record of their post counts, could someone perhaps tell if I lost some, and how many? Or perhaps the fact that post counts don't really matter should sink in.......:rolleyes:

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
And, it would give the Mods a lot to do;)

Not really - we'd just get rid of the problem :p :eek:

Britboy - I think you lost the most, something like 6700 ;)

D

[mactastic]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson

I do wonder if anyone lost enough to lose the 'tar.....

D

I came close!

edit: So are the only places posts count now in the "news and article discussion" and "mac discussion"?

[britboy]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Britboy - I think you lost the most, something like 6700 ;)

D


Darn, rats, fiddlesticks! Now my status will have gone down to.....demi-god? :p

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by britboy
Darn, rats, fiddlesticks! Now my status will have gone down to.....demi-god? :p

You were robbed!!!

If you want, I'll have arn give you some of mine...;)

D

[britboy]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
You were robbed!!!

If you want, I'll have arn give you some of mine...;)

D


Ha! Do you think you perhaps have a few going spare?

13,000........

[Sun Baked]

Darn, all those old threads tossed in the archive.

Now we cannot drag the threads to the surface... :(

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by Sun Baked
Now we cannot drag the threads to the surface... :(

There are still plenty you can resurrect ;)

And some interesting ones as well, just don't go crazy....

D

[MrMacMan]

I will never be posting in Political Forums.

I don't care if my posts are ignored, if my message is just absolute garbage and my debates are one sided. I always knew atleast I was getting something out of it.

I do care now that I will no longer get the Simplest thing a Post.

--MrMacMan

If the situation changes I will return, if not there are few reasons besides posting a thread and letting the thread die without my involvement.

[pseudobrit]

Originally posted by tazo
Pseudo, how come no 'tar?

I have a great idea and the images for one, I just haven't had time to put it together properly.

[tazo]

damn, now how are we supposed to get out 10 servings of liberal viewpoint daily now???? ;)

[IJ Reilly]

I don't post for the post count, but it was kind of shocking to discover that I'd lost about 70% of mine in one swell foop. Yes, I post mainly in the political forum, and yes I realize this is a side-show to the main event. But still, I have to wonder if a detailed, well thought out post about some issue of importance to the world really is less valuable to these discussions then somebody saying "me too!" in one of the other forums.

[pseudobrit]

Originally posted by MrMacman
I will never be posting in Political Forums.

I don't care if my posts are ignored, if my message is just absolute garbage and my debates are one sided. I always knew atleast I was getting something out of it.

Well, that's a poor way of looking at things.

I think it's a smart idea despite the fact that I (perhaps zimv20 lost just as many) lost the most posts from it; it keeps the trolls away, or at least relegates them to noob status forever.

This way, if you have a message, you're less likely to get the old one-sided argument out of a troll, making frequent posting less necessary. You truly need to be a die-hard Mac-head to have a high post count.

Take a look at the North Korea thread for an idea of the redundancy caused when newbies come in and start rehashing something that was discussed to death 6 months ago.

[arn]

Originally posted by MrMacman
[B]
I don't care if my posts are ignored, if my message is just absolute garbage and my debates are one sided. I always knew atleast I was getting something out of it.

I do care now that I will no longer get the Simplest thing a Post.


You know, comments like this want me to get rid of the post count altogether.

People should post because they have something to say... not to get an additional post added to their post count.

Maybe more subforums will follow suit.

arn

[mactastic]

Yeah, I don't really care about the post count thing. I'll keep posting in there anyway. Heck, stop post counts from all the non-mac topics. I agree, it will help keep trolls out of the forums and our counts will reflect our mac-related discussions; which is what this site is about after all. The discussions in the political forum are by and large productive debate between people who care about the issues. Less trolls and people posting flamebait will make it even better.

[OutThere]

The only reason that I was worried about the tiny drop in my post count was that I thought that it could drop more, and any significant drop would have severely injured my chance of getting an avatar. Thanks for all the input, and I'm sorry for the people who lost a lot of posts and dropped off the top ten. :( Thanks!

[IJ Reilly]

Originally posted by mactastic
Yeah, I don't really care about the post count thing. I'll keep posting in there anyway. Heck, stop post counts from all the non-mac topics. I agree, it will help keep trolls out of the forums and our counts will reflect our mac-related discussions; which is what this site is about after all. The discussions in the political forum are by and large productive debate between people who care about the issues. Less trolls and people posting flamebait will make it even better.

Yes, exactly. If arn is looking for suggestions, I'd suggest dropping the post counting from all non-Mac topics. I don't see why the political forum should be singled out for this treatment. If discussing questions of war, peace and prosperity aren't making a contribution to to the macrumors community, then I don't see how chatting about a movie or your favorite color is.

[Mr. Anderson]

Quite a few threads in the Community are Mac related, so that doesn't work.

People should just get over it.

D

[mactastic]

Yeah, I really could care less about the post count. As long as I get to keep the 'tar I'm happy!

[wdlove]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Quite a few threads in the Community are Mac related, so that doesn't work.

People should just get over it.

D

What if you trully feel hurt by the loss. The post count does have meaning to me, represents something postive in my! It's a subconscious ego thing!:(

[IJ Reilly]

; posted by Mr. Anderson [/i]
Quite a few threads in the Community are Mac related, so that doesn't work.

People should just get over it.

D

Very few, and those few could be moved, if consistency was the goal. It's arbitrary, is all I'm saying, and with all due respect, "getting over it" is really not an answer to that point because there is nothing to "get over."

[eyelikeart]

hmm...u know...all this talk about "who posts more"...got me thinking...

what if the "top ten posters" was replaced with the "top ten oldest members?" :eek:

point is...u guys are making a huge deal out of this...it's not about it..just a perk to get an avatar... ;)

as for the politicals...this is still a "Mac" site...but I've stated my feelings several times in the past...

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by IJ Reilly
Very few, and those few could be moved, if consistency was the goal. It's arbitrary, is all I'm saying, and with all due respect, "getting over it" is really not an answer to that point because there is nothing to "get over."

That's still a lot of work - sorry. And the 'get over it' is to all the people who seem to have issues with losing a few posts. Its not a big deal and if this continues I hope Arn removes post count from the stats for good.

Blah!

D

[Doctor Q]

Post counts and processor designations (ranks) serve a minor but useful purpose. They let others know who has had a longer or shorter presense here. A higher rank or post count doesn't necessarily correlate to a member's intelligence, value to the community, or the quality of their posts, but it does give them a little more credibility. It can be helpful when there is nothing else measurable to go on. When I started here, and didn't know anything about anything else, I instinctively paid more attention to the avatar'ed members for that reason. It's a rough guideline, but it's there for what it's worth.

With that in mind, arn's decisions have made sense: leave the rankings and post counts, remove the display of post counts from the main forum displays, and discount those from the Political Discussions & War Discussion forum, since posts there tend to be outside the mainstream discussions and involve a skewed subset of members compared with other areas. It does make me think that the demi-god/contributor status should be independent of the processor rank. I think that a new contributor should be recognized for supporting the site but not mistaken for an oldtimer. I don't know if this is technically possible.

It does seem a shame when a thread that was valuable turns less interesting then goes to the Wasteland, discounting the contributions of those who posted "when it mattered". Which these are is a matter of opinion, but I think "More Mac Sightings" falls in that category. Maybe this thread too. The moderators have to make this judgement call. I hope there is a distinction between closing/archiving a thread at the end of its useful life and wastelanding it when it was never useful to begin with.

[IJ Reilly]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
That's still a lot of work - sorry. And the 'get over it' is to all the people who seem to have issues with losing a few posts. Its not a big deal and if this continues I hope Arn removes post count from the stats for good.

Blah!

D

I hope that "Blah!" wasn't for me. I lost on the order of 70% of my posting credits and I'm not griping about that nearly so much as I am feeling a bit annoyed by the implication that chatting about politics on these boards is somehow less relevant then taking about The Matrix, Star Wars, Angelina Jolie, birthdays, bikes, cars, or the West Nile Virus.

The reason I don't care for the "get over it" response is because it sounds to me a lot like "talk to the hand." That may not be the way you meant it, but that's how it came across to me.

[mactastic]

It's not worth any less objectively. But it does require more work for the mods, since it can easily get out of hand. Personally I don't think the community section should count toward post count at all, but I'm not in charge. I'll go along with what arn decides. I don't post in the political section to gain in the post count, I do it because I like it and I feel it's important to air the issues and maybe it will help people to sharpen their debating skills and come to some kind of realization of why they think what they do.

[pivo6]

With all the bitching and moaning about losing your post count ( I, by the way lost about 100 or 25% from my count), you might as well get rid of post counts all together.

I was a little bit perturbed, but I got over it. But to have someone post "w00t, I have my G5" and have that count, while someone else posts a well thought out stance for/against the war in Iraq, for example, has no *point value*. It just seems a little silly to me.

My humble suggestion is if people want an avatar, they either contribute to the site, or be a member for a specified period of time.

[edit:corrected spelling]

[Doctor Q]

This is just idle brainstorming, but I think I know what would make post counts most relevant. They just need to be personalized. Imagine if you saw post counts for other members based only on your own choice of forums. This could, in theory, be done automatically by the software: post counts would be maintained separately for each forum and the post counts you saw for other members would be the sums of the counts only within the forums that you frequent. If you read the Apple Collectors forums, it would count for others. If you didn't, it wouldn't.

No, I'm not suggesting that the site or software actually be changed. In fact, I would make the opposite point - you can't expect to get much information from post counts without a lot of personal tuning, so don't plead for site-wide tuning at all, since they can't be meaningful gauges for everyone at once anyway.

[IJ Reilly]

I don't entirely buy the "more work" explanation. If the rules were clearly stated -- that all Mac-related threads should be started in the Mac forums -- Community could be turned back over to "everything else," which is how it's defined. Then, not counting posts in the Community forum towards the totals would be perfectly fair. Seems quite simple to me.

I don't post in Politics for the "glory" either. I just don't get why it should be treated like the site's poor stepchild.

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by IJ Reilly
I hope that "Blah!" wasn't for me.

No - just voicing my general distaste for all this stupidity.

If you all remember, there were two political forums: the current one and one that had been closed down due to flaming and getting totally out of hand. It now looks like the closed one is gone. My guess, until told otherwise, is that this is where a lot of threads got removed.

But it has been proven again and again on these forums, political and others, the strongly held beliefs and zealotry only cause problems - especially when people aren't willing to look at things from different perspectives. There are no right answers that apply to *everyone* - and some people need lighten up when someone disagrees with you.

These are generalities, gained from looking and the many reported posts, I'm not singling anyone out, just making observations. I'm all for good discussions - but I also like to see open mindedness as well. I've been known to be less than cordial, so I'm also at fault. ;)

I just want everyone to play nice, you know?

D

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by arn
You know, comments like this want me to get rid of the post count altogether.

People should post because they have something to say... not to get an additional post added to their post count.

Maybe more subforums will follow suit.

arn

I don't want people to blow off my comments and ideas like they are nothing. I was another voice to the message in the political forums, a voice that was little listened to, mainly ignored. Now I know that I will be fully ignored.

I have nothing to show for all my time and effort.

I look at post count and see time, time and effort.

Post count means nothing as it is, but I see the effort, ideas and much more I put in every day. It shows that I put in more then some other members, I have a presence. That I wasn't just some random guy.

I'm trying to see what reason there was from eliminating my time and effort from the records.

--MrMacMan

[MacFan25]

It's not a big deal. I dropped from a 68000 to a 65816 but oh well. I haven't had much time to post much lately anyway.

I think that it is a good idea for the political section to not count for post count, because this is a mac site, not a political site.

[Kwyjibo]

Originally posted by Doctor Q
With that in mind, arn's decisions have made sense: leave the rankings and post counts, remove the display of post counts from the main forum displays, and discount those from the Political Discussions & War Discussion forum, since posts there tend to be outside the mainstream discussions and involve a skewed subset of members compared with other areas. It does make me think that the demi-god/contributor status should be independent of the processor rank. I think that a new contributor should be recognized for supporting the site but not mistaken for an oldtimer. I don't know if this is technically possible.

problems i see with the above, first to get an avatar even if you contribute u need to get 500 posts so even with the demi-god/contributor status, expereince is not necessarily implied because they may have few posts and not have an avatar...contributors do help to fund this site so even if they are kinda new they should be given a little respect.

I wasn't around the last time that posts were not displayed but i know they were not for sometime. I'm sure there are a number of ppl who still try and PM arn or a mod and find their post count/avatar eligbility /closeness not that they would have to answer but it would be headaches for them....

[Ambrose Chapel]

what about a kind of compromise - having posts in the political forum not count from now on but letting people keep what they've accrued thus far? it does seem a little arbitrary to strike them from the record way after the fact...

[Sun Baked]

I know I said I didn't care, but this is beginning to look like a soap opera.

Time to break out the bon-bons.

[wdlove]

I agree with Mr. Anderson, that the most important thing is for everyone to get along. This forum should be about friendly give and take of ideas! As MrMacman said the post count does represent the time and effort put in on contributing to this form!

[IJ Reilly]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
I just want everyone to play nice, you know?

Right, but most of the discussion in the political forum has been nice lately. Every so often somebody wanders in and tries to start a flame war, but he generally gets the rules explained to him politely by other contributors, and gets a chance to play nice or leave. We've also got a tough-but-fair moderator, who's only rarely had to invoke his authority.

Don't give this forum short shrift. It's shaped up quite nicely of late, and for my part I'd visit the other forums and macrumors far less often if Politics was shut down.

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by MrMacman
I'm trying to see what reason there was from eliminating my time and effort from the records.

U are taking this way too personally man. EVERYONE was affected by this, not just u. Some of us lost a few, some of us lost a few hundred, B2TM lost over 1000!

I don't want to be the one to say so, but this thread has served its purpose and is nearing its demise. :rolleyes:

[job]

Does post count really matter that much to some people? I don't even see the need for them, other than 'bragging rights.' I never check mine.

[mactastic]

Oh geez, you mean all these posts are gonna get wastelanded too? :p

You're right this is alot of whining about post counts. Who cares?

The political forum has been pretty good lately. Eliminating it will only force that inevitable discussion into the more public forums though. Keeping it as a place to put posts that end up turning political, as well as allowing those of us who use it to vent there will keep the rest of the MacRumors members from seeing it if they don't want to. I hope it sticks around.

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by mactastic
Oh geez, you mean all these posts are gonna get wastelanded too? :p

ha ha...I was hoping someone would step up & say so...

I wasn't going to mention it...but yeah...this will likely get sent to the wasteland as well...

then all of this whining will have been for nothing... :eek: ;)

[mactastic]

Originally posted by eyelikeart
ha ha...I was hoping someone would step up & say so...

I wasn't going to mention it...but yeah...this will likely get sent to the wasteland as well...

then all of this whining will have been for nothing... :eek: ;)

All my self-worth is heading down the toilet...... AHHHHHHHHH:p

[arn]

Well,

I'm actually surprised how many people apparently do check their postcounts on a regular basis.

The political forum post-count elimination does have reasoning behind it. Basically preventing the creation of"regulars" who post only in the political forums... as it attacts some who post only in that section.

And I don't think i've been secret about my personal dislike for the political forums... it was only created to remove these discussions from the rest of the site.

It's not that I have anything against politics specifically - but I would equally not want a Mac vs. PC forum or a Pro-choice vs. Pro-Life discussion forum.

arn

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by wdlove
I agree with Mr. Anderson, that the most important thing is for everyone to get along. This forum should be about friendly give and take of ideas! As MrMacman said the post count does represent the time and effort put in on contributing to this form!

Ahh, how can you agree with both of us?

;)

Originally posted by eyelikeart
U are taking this way too personally man. EVERYONE was affected by this, not just u. Some of us lost a few, some of us lost a few hundred, B2TM lost over 1000!

I don't want to be the one to say so, but this thread has served its purpose and is nearing its demise. :rolleyes:
You just used The letter 'U' instead of saying 'you'.
:eek:

I know *everyone* was affected, I lost posts too, some of the people that spend most of their time in Political forum did lose a lot of their posts.

It seems wrong to me.

I'm trying to understand if this is trying to stop people from posting there (It has worked for me if that is the case) or Arn doesn't think that discussion in Political Forums is meaningful. (Not to point at arn, but he does control the site, if it is someone else I am sorry)

:(

[wdlove]

Originally posted by job
Does post count really matter that much to some people? I don't even see the need for them, other than 'bragging rights.' I never check mine.

I happen to check my post count at least daily, but actually more. It is a self worth type of check for me!

When this forum has past it's life it should just be locked. If wasteland means a loss of post count then it's wrong. We should not be punished for our expressing our opinion!

[eyelikeart]

Originally posted by MrMacman
You just used The letter 'U' instead of saying 'you'.
:eek:

that's right...I never spell out the word "you"...unless it's business related... ;)

as for the rest of this...I completely support the idea of posts not counting in the political section...it could be the same for this community section as well since it's not usually "Mac" related...

but that hasn't happened yet... ;)

[IJ Reilly]

Originally posted by arn
I'm actually surprised how many people apparently do check their postcounts on a regular basis.

I don't very often... but you've created sort of a caste system here, arn, so people are bound to care, if only a little, and in spite of themselves. If you don't want them to care, then eliminate the post count and the site privileges assigned to post count. At the same time, you'd be cutting down on the number of junk posts in the Mac-related threads, which is why I visit them so seldom.

[janey]

i remembered my last post count (~2200) because i started posting infrequently a couple of months ago, and I posted my usual amount of posts that day, just because i felt like it. Then the next day shadow tells me that his post count dropped, and that's when I noticed that my post count fell like 600 posts.

Honestly, I don't care anymore. I still have my avatar and post count isn't that much of a big deal anymore.

However, it is sorta unfair for those few who post very informative things, i.e. Doctor Q.

[Durandal7]

arn, maybe you could turn off the post count display in the profile. It would still exist but be invisible, the rankings would still be an indicator but it might cut down on trash if people were going blind.

[Mr. Anderson]

The only problem with that is the people wondering when they're going to get to another ranking.

I think its best to just move on at this point, and try and remember that in the big scheme of things post count is irrelevant.

We should all take a cue from Jefhatfield when he had arn set his count back to 0 at one point.....

D

[OutThere]

Arg. I feel like Dr. Frankenstein, I've created a monster! This post was just supposed to be me asking why my post count dropped and if it was gonna keep dropping and not everyone whining about their posts dropping from 4538754398574398 to 5483954805483. :rolleyes:

[jelloshotsrule]

i find it amusing that people know almost exactly how many posts they lost

beer me


ps- i don't think posts like this one should count toward jack poo

[MacAztec]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MrMacman
I'm trying to understand if this is trying to stop people from posting there (It has worked for me if that is the case) or Arn doesn't think that discussion in Political Forums is meaningful.

Well, I certainly dont think it is meaningful. This isn't "PoliticalTalks.com"

Its cool to have a community talk, but remember, this is MAC RUMORS, not ChatRoom.com

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
i find it amusing that people know almost exactly how many posts they lost

beer me


you owe me one, I already asked that question.....and I bet you're going to want me to donate some posts to you as well, just like britboy? ;)

D

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
you owe me one, I already asked that question.....and I bet you're going to want me to donate some posts to you as well, just like britboy? ;)

D

1. look again at my post, nowhere did i pose a question. senility is not your best color

2. no.

[arn]

Originally posted by IJ Reilly
If you don't want them to care, then eliminate the post count and the site privileges assigned to post count..

you know the only thing keeping me from doing so is the revolt it would cause. :)

Actually, post counts are a double edged sword... early in the life of a site, they encourage people to post... later on, it's too effective. :)

I think the major thing I would change if starting over would be not making an avatar a per-post-count issue.

arn

[Mr. Anderson]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
1. look again at my post, nowhere did i pose a question. senility is not your best color


question, statement, what ever.....you just can't deal with the fact that we found the same thing funny....;)

D

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by MacAztec
Originally posted by MrMacman
I'm trying to understand if this is trying to stop people from posting there (It has worked for me if that is the case) or Arn doesn't think that discussion in Political Forums is meaningful.

Well, I certainly dont think it is meaningful. This isn't "PoliticalTalks.com"

Its cool to have a community talk, but remember, this is MAC RUMORS, not ChatRoom.com

First of all, you screwed up the Quote Code.

Second Its not like anyone was making it on MacRumors *just* by posting in Political Forum, just that some people did it more them others. I thought political forum was helpful, had tons of people with different views for me it is not any longer.

And PUTTING CAPS LOCK ON isn't going to help get your message to me.

Heck if people cared, listened... *sigh*

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by MrMacman
...
Its not like anyone was making it on MacRumors *just* by posting in Political Forum
...

Actually, we have had many people do just this. They usually end up banned pretty quickly, but they appear nevertheless.

[MacAztec]

Oh man, thanks for telling me that I screwed up the quote code bro! I'll remember not to next time. Seems like you still knew i was quoting you though.

And...does this really make sence?

"Its not like anyone was making it on MacRumors *just* by posting in Political Forum, just that some people did it more them others."

Its not like anyone was making what? Its cool that people were sharing viewpoints in Political Forums, but it turned into flamewars, and worthless posts, etc. And, again, this is MACRUMORS (yes, with caps).

Most people notice the caps, as you did

[EDIT] Ok, I guess the sentence above that I quoted you on meant

"Its not like anyone on MacRumors joins to just post in the Political Forum (and only in the Political Forum)."

[jelloshotsrule]

caps are ****ing annoying.

mrmacman was being petty with the quote thing.

aztec called him "bro"... and saying that this is "MACRUMORS" and yet having a blast posting about his drunken exploits... pot calling the kettle...

this is just beginning to get good.

[MacAztec]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
caps are ****ing annoying.

mrmacman was being petty with the quote thing.

aztec called him "bro"... and saying that this is "MACRUMORS" and yet having a blast posting about his drunken exploits... pot calling the kettle...

this is just beginning to get good.

Can't say 'bro' now or what? Im sorry, I'm from California. But that really...doesnt...matter does it?

And, if you read my earlier post, I said I liked the community discussion (which was where I posted), but it seemed the Politcal Forums turned into a mess and were just arguments.

And why, every time you quote me or reply to me, you either bring up that post, or you start talking about "boozing and womanizing". Its annoying.

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by MacAztec
Can't say 'bro' now or what? Im sorry, I'm from California. But that really...doesnt...matter does it?

And, if you read my earlier post, I said I liked the community discussion (which was where I posted), but it seemed the Politcal Forums turned into a mess and were just arguments.

And why, every time you quote me or reply to me, you either bring up that post, or you start talking about "boozing and womanizing". Its annoying.

just funny

the community section is often a mess, and no more "mac" oriented in general. which was your argument against the political forums at the time

i said neither 'boozing' or 'womanizing'. but, it's funny that it bugs you. it bugs me when people brag about objectifying people and such.