FREE: Half-Life 2: EP1 from Orange Box owner

[shecky]

as an owner of the Orange Box, i have a free gift of HL2: Episode 1 to give away. but lets make it interesting...

the best answer to the following question in the next 24 hours wins. i will announce a winner here by midnight EST tomorrow.

The question:

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

[Xander562]

The egg of course.
And here's why: Anyone who has a basic understanding in biology knows that evolution is nothing more than mutation after mutation. The successful mutations, or the ones that benefit the organism in a positive way, are the ones that progress to the next generation. The unsuccessful mutations, or the ones that harm the species, cause the organism to have trouble reproducing. They do not successfully pass their genes and so that mutation dies out. The chicken and the egg story employs the same principle. At some point in the past, some other species produced a mutated offspring different from its own. That mutated offspring came in the form of a chicken egg. This egg then hatched the chicken. So the egg came before the chicken.

Unless of course you're talking about an "egg" in a general form. In which case there were plenty of "eggs" before the chicken egg came along. (Dinosaur eggs etc.) But my answer would still remain the same. The egg came first.


In case you choose me: crook.alexander@gmail.com

[Jack Flash]

The correct answer? Me. That's right. But before me, there came Chuck Norris who roundhouse kicked the earth into orbit.

[mattcube64]

I've always said the chicken came first.

Because God put Adam on the earth as a man, and not as a baby or child.

[MacinDoc]

Alphabetically speaking, "the chicken" comes before "the egg", since c comes before e.

If you're speaking historically, none of us know, since we weren't there.

Edit: Chicken (not surprisingly) comes first in binary, too, with c being 01000011, and e 01000101. If you want the rest of the letters, go here (http://www.tekmom.com/buzzwords/binaryalphabet.html).

[baby duck monge]

Well this isn't fair at all. What you've really presented us with is a trick question. The chicken and the [chicken] egg are both Platonic Forms. What that means is that each one came first, and they both came at the same time. Forms are aspatial and atemporal; neither one had a "start."

The chickens and [chicken] eggs we see today are merely representations of the Forms of "chicken" and "[chicken] egg" that exist outside of space and time.

Anyone who disagrees is a heathen and probably doesn't believe in philosophy at all. Or, worse, is an Aristotelian.

[Nugget]

I've always said the chicken came first.
Because God put Adam on the earth as a man, and not as a baby or child.

No, you got that wrong.

The gods Odin, Vili, and Ve then used Ymir's carcass to create Midgard, the world of men. They used his flesh to create the earth, his broken bones to make the mountains, his teeth to make the rocks, and his hair to create the trees. From his blood they made the lakes and the sea and from his skull the brothers fashioned the sky, placing four dwarfs, Nordi, Sudri, Austri, and Vestri, at its corners to hold it up. Then the three gods used sparks to create the sun, the moon, and the stars.

Later, the gods found some driftwood on the seashore. They took the fallen ash tree and created man. And from the fallen elm tree they fashioned woman. Odin breathed life into them. Vili gave them intelligence and emotion, and Ve gave them the ability to see and hear. Thus were created the first man and woman on Midgard.

[lexus]

Both, the chicken came inside the egg as a fetus at the same time as the egg.

[mrsollars]

The chicken.
he's selfish.
this will eventually cause the egg to find love in the arms of another.

[CRAZYBUBBA]

Somewhere, in the evolution, fishes evolved to more earthly beings, such as amphibians, who developed some kind of lungs. Be aware: they were no lungs just at the beginning! They were 10 percent of lungs, even less but even 1 percent of lungs is better than no lungs at all. So evolved vision, etc.
But for sure, the first living things were hermaphrodites, because how would they reproduce themselves it they were not ? Sexual differentiation came eons later.
So were eggs. They are the result of so many mutations (i.e. breaks in the reproduction process ruled by genes and genomes) that some day, somewhere, it was an advantage (regarding the rule of "survival of the fittest") to have an independent device for reproduction.


ergo, the chicken came first and produced eggs at a later point.

[Jasonbot]

The mystery of the chicken and the egg is a very mystical one indeed and can(not) be traced back millions, even billions of year back to the days of the gods and primordial soup...

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away...

"Hows that soup Galthx," said Uncle Time
"It's quite primordial indeed!"
"So it should be, we are creating the first of the galaxies and we'd better not stuff up"

This went on for quite some time, adding their toil and trouble, allowing to simmer and putting just the right amount of sugah, spice and everything nice, until that fateful moment.

"You idiot," said Galthx, "You're only supposed to put in one pinch of salt Time! Now the humans will never realise that politics is all lies. Their power will be much greater than our own even and they may even overthrow us one day :O"
"Oh well? We shall pose to them a question that has no answer, something that will baffle them for ages so that they do not get out of hand!" replied Time casually.
"And that is?"
After some thought the unswerable question came to him...
"What comes first? The chicken or the egg?"
"Dunno? Eggs? I like eggs."
"No you idiot, teh question... That is the question. And for the record lets start off with both just to annoy people if they ever attempt to even find out."

And that the story. No lies

[DMoose]

A chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The chicken is smoking a cigarette with a satisfied smile on its face and the egg is frowning and looking a bit pissed off. The egg mutters, to no-one in particular, "Well, I guess we answered THAT question!"

[Rooskibar03]

A chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The chicken is smoking a cigarette with a satisfied smile on its face and the egg is frowning and looking a bit pissed off. The egg mutters, to no-one in particular, "Well, I guess we answered THAT question!"

They say a picture is worth a thousand words..

http://wzus.ask.com/r?t=a&d=us&s=a&c=p&ti=1&ai=30751&l=dir&o=0&sv=0a300523&ip=4179271e&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cartoonstock.com%2Flowres%2Foha0058l.jpg

Since you took mine, I'll go with something white and nerdy...

By definition, an egg is merely a by-product of an animal.

For a chicken egg to exist, it requires an adult hen and an adult rooster to fertilize the egg. Otherwise it would just be a scrambled egg!

An egg requires a hen to incubate the egg and keep it warm before it can hatch.

How could other chickens have come about from one egg? An egg cannot give birth to a chicken, whereas a chicken can lay hundreds of eggs in her life.

Since an egg is only a by-product of a chicken, it is impossible for it to have come before the chicken. Therefore, BOTH the chicken and the rooster came first

[idyll]

Yeah, I always figured if they timed it just right.. they could both come at the same time. :p

[harry454]

Yeah, I always figured if they timed it just right.. they could both come at the same time. :p

Neither since chickens weren't created way back so unless two other animals had sex and were different spieces

[penter]

The egg must have come first
This is the reasoning:

Though genetic material may mutate along one's lifetime, causing such annomalies as tumors, cancers, sun spots, gray hair, etc, etc, these mutations will not be carried down the genetic line. Unless a mutation occurs when the female egg and the male sperm combine to form the zygote, the DNA chains that were used to form the zygote happened to have mutated before their combination, or the zygote's own DNA mutates, no mutation will be inherited by the offspring of that first organism which had the cancer, tumor, or other mutation.
Before the chickens came there were creatures or organisms that werent quite yet chicken. When these "things" came together, their zygote-forming DNA (egg and sperm) mutaded, forming the zygote of what was to become a chicken. Since there were no chickens before this brand-new type of zygote, and the zygote is housed in an egg, the egg must have come first, giving birth to this new mutated creature called a chicken.
Now, this process -evolution- is a slow one. This isnt a matter of having a mutated egg give birth to a completely new beign that was called the chicken. Many mutations of the kind must have occured to finally give birth to the animal that we now call chicken, but since none of the preceeding creatures were true chickens, it must be that a mutated zygote housed in an EGG -the first true chicken egg- gave birth to the first chicken, which came after the egg in which it was housed.
My english is not beautiful, but the idea is definitely there. Hopefully you appreciate my effort and present me with your generosity and understanding!
If not, then at least i appreciate this thread, for it has made me stop and think about this dillema and finally reach a theoretically sound conclusion.
Thnx for reading. :)


P.S. sry for misspells and crude sentence structures. I usually write much better than this.... :o

[mrkramer]

neither of them exist, they are all just in your imagination.

[Dagless]

Neither, the companion cube was first.

[mrsollars]

The chicken.
he's selfish.
this will eventually cause the egg to find love in the arms of another.


A chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The chicken is smoking a cigarette with a satisfied smile on its face and the egg is frowning and looking a bit pissed off. The egg mutters, to no-one in particular, "Well, I guess we answered THAT question!"


get your own material.

[italiano40]

I wish that chicken came first ! But during all the 11 years in prison, only eggs were served first and last!

[shecky]

OK., competition is closed. ill post my decision in a few mins.

[shecky]

Ok the winner is...........

Alphabetically speaking, "the chicken" comes before "the egg", since c comes before e.

If you're speaking historically, none of us know, since we weren't there.

Edit: Chicken (not surprisingly) comes first in binary, too, with c being 01000011, and e 01000101. If you want the rest of the letters, go here (http://www.tekmom.com/buzzwords/binaryalphabet.html).

MacInDoc wins for most literal logic to an illogical question. check your PM's.

and i give jimmi an honorable mention but since i know he has the orange box already i wont award him the prize :)

Neither, the companion cube was first.