would you do it if you needed the money?

[anneleonard]

ok here's the scenario:

- you are unemployed, have been for 2 months
- you've got no money but savings for a deposit on your first house
- the only other option of gainful employment is supply teaching, when you hated teaching with a passion
- your only car has just lost its exhaust pipe and Catalytic converter, making it an "economic write-off"
- there's a job which pays a very good wage
- its placed just round the corner, you wouldn't even have to buy another car
- its working for microsoft.

would you take it?

(PS yes i could be in this very predicament next week)

[Sun Baked]

Yes...

It's a lot easier to have income and look for better job.

Even if it's Microsoft.

[vniow]

Originally posted by anneleonard
would you take it?

Oh hell yeah.

[Durandal7]

You have two choices, become a con-artist or work for MS. Being a con-artist might be more fun but working for MS will get you a lot less jail time.

I would go with MS.

[Foucault]

Yes, destroy them from the inside. We need more mac people inside the "Big Brother".

[Danger! Will]

Hell yeah, and i'd use the money to buy all the apple stuff I ever wanted.

[G4scott]

As much as I would hate to say it... Working for Microsoft would probably be better for you right now.

Just be sure to take your PowerBook to work with you... :D ;)

[Waluigi]

If you have to work for Microsoft, take it as a blessing in disguise. You have got to have the attitude of: I'm going to turn this organization around into a consumer-oriented company that actively works for the consumer. If you look at that way, that maybe you can make an evil company into a good, it can keep you sane. No matter how unrealistic that goal actually is.

--Waluigi

[Mr. Anderson]

Given the situation, no real reason not to. What's to say you can't get another job in a year or so, somewhere you like better, if this doesn't work out.

So what would this job be?

And good luck!

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[scem0]

Is this a joke??!?

Screw morals - screw your integrity - screw values!

Screw being poor!

Plus, working for M$ would not be against my morals or values. :)

scem0

[jefhatfield]

work for microsoft and buy macs and software...get an ipod...buy some great adobe titles ;)

i love macs but fix PCs and am also a microsoft certified professsional because there is more work in the PC sector...some mac fans look at me funny and some think i am a traitor:p

[pseudobrit]

A job is a job.

Not all jobs are created equal, but as long as it provides a pleasant working environment and pays you well, you'd be a fool to decline.

I agree with the others, though -- take the money out of MS and invest it in Apple products. Oh, the irony!

[Daveman Deluxe]

I'd take the job. Beats letting my wife and kids starve (the ones I don't have).

[sparkleytone]

m$ is one of the best companies in america to work for. they take care of their employees and the benefits are outstanding. i would work for them. doesn't mean i would start buying their products.

[shadowfax]

take the job! as sparkley says, working for them is primo. it's the consumer that they screw.

[Tequila Grandma]

Originally posted by sparkleytone
m$ is one of the best companies in america to work for. they take care of their employees and the benefits are outstanding. i would work for them. doesn't mean i would start buying their products.
A friend of mine had lunch with a pretty big executive at Microsoft, as he was a client of his father's, and this executive said pretty much the exact same thing you posted above.

Just because you're working for the devil doesn't mean it has to be working in hell.

[Kwyjibo]

you could be spying for the devil from heaven thoeretically. I would love to work for m$...they do take care of the good ppl...money is money alright...they way i see it if you can earn it by doing something u like or something thats easy to do why not....your happy and rich instead of righteous and lonely.

[TEG]

Never.....

I could work for some evil companies (Read: Real Networks), but never M$. I'd rather work at Rite Aid/Wallgreens/CVS/Longs/Bartells that working at M$.

Thankfully, I never had to make my choice, my company was the only one I talked to. They Love Macs, but make Huge UN*X Boxes. Thank God for (Company name Not mentioned due to new security policy).

TEG

[wdlove]

Yes, you should take the job. I know from experience that being able to walk to work is a great position to have. Having a good paying job will then allow you the luxury of looking for a job that better meets your needs!

[mymemory]

I would get the job, that will make me more aware of why I have a mac.

BTW, you would be a very good person to chat in that office being a Mac person. I was.

[XnavxeMiyyep]

Would I do it? It depends on what the job at Microsoft is. I would treat it the same as any other job.

[Stelliform]

Go for it. Nothing feels as good as getting money from people you don't mind taking it from. That is why I love having attorneys for clients. :D

[Giaguara]

yes. i would take it. it is a job and pays. besides you won't have to yse MS stuff at home.

similarly, if M$ offered a H1-B i would not say a no.

[Abstract]

Well of course you should take the job. You don't personally hate microsoft, even if you're not a fan of their products. Its not like Microsoft slowly tortured your family or something.

You may find that its the best job you have ever had. You may not like the products, but it may be an awesome company to work for.

Also, maybe you can make the company better. :) It takes a bunch of people with this mentality to do it, thats all.

[Phil Of Mac]

Yeah, work for MS. There's nothing wrong with it, they just make an inferior product. That wouldn't stop me from working there. I would gladly take a job at Microsoft just as I would gladly take a job at General Motors, despite my opinion of their products.

[iJon]

at least microsoft gives pay raises. money is money, who cares who it is from. take microsofts money and buy a apple.

iJon

[Flowbee]

Originally posted by anneleonard

- its working for microsoft.

would you take it?


Well, I guess it depends what the job is. If it's software sales, I would have a tough time doing it. Cold-calling businesses and trying to convince them that Windows server soulutions will increase their productivity, etc? There's not a big enough bar of soap to wash away the guilt at the end of the day.

If it's programming, accounting, administration, mailroom, etc... I'd probably go for it in a heartbeat.

[Jerry Spoon]

Oh yea. I'd work there if it meant getting away from what you described. Plus, you don't have to stay there forever...just until something better comes along.

[quickshot757]

It's not like Microsoft slowly tortured your family or something.

Considering how confusing and hard to use MS98 is sometimes i guess you could say that they did. But I still think that i would do it, the job might suck but at least its money to go buy a new Powermac G5 with.

[rainman::|:|]

obviously microsoft has no quality standards whatsoever for any product they release, so i would think it's a pretty easy job-- nothing to measure up to. i'd go for it.

pnw

[Durandal7]

Originally posted by TEG
Never.....

I could work for some evil companies (Read: Real Networks), but never M$. I'd rather work at Rite Aid/Wallgreens/CVS/Longs/Bartells that working at M$.


Give me a break. He's going to work for a giant software company, it's not like he's getting a job making poison gas in Nazi Germany or something. :rolleyes:

[anneleonard]

Originally posted by Durandal7
He's going to work for a giant software company...
He? Who's that then? I'm a girl! :p

Your posts made me laugh, guys. The job would be something to do with software and schools, and managing their school accounts but they say its not sales or marketing (?!). My background is in psychology research and primary teaching, and i'm kinda techy minded in a general sense. I'm finding more out from the recruitment agency this week. Trouble is, its far removed from what I'd really like to do (educational software/website design or working for a children's charity, or ed. publishing), but it might be a case of knuckling down for 12 months, earning money and being able to afford a house soon, and at the present time of stupid UK house prices (especially in the south east), that would be a miracle. We'll see.

It has surprised me how few of you have said that I should have some integrity in believing the company I am working for though. :rolleyes:

[anneleonard]

well i thought i'd update you guys that answered my quandry. after 2 interviews and an invitation for the 3rd-and-last-one, i've pulled out. i just didn't want the role. they said it wasn't sales, but it blatantly was. hmmph! what i really wanted to say was 'where do you want to stick your job today?'

i've got two more interviews lined up next week for organisations/companies that I can more fully support, so here goes!:D

[Mr. Anderson]

Glad you pulled out if it wasn't what you wanted. Me, I'd be curious to see what they offered ;)

Good luck on the job interviews. :D

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