Apple Paris Keynote Broadcast?

[MacRumors]

MacBidouille claims to have (http://www.hardmac.com/niouzcontenu.php?date=2003-09-13#578) the satellite broadcast location for the Apple Expo keynote:


The keynote will be broadcasted on Tc2D from 0900 to 1230.
Orbital position : 8 degrees West
Reception frequency : 11564.7 MHz
Polarisation : vertical
Symbole rate : 6.1113 MS/s
FEC : 3/4


If possible, MacRumors will try to provide live-coverage, and/or provide links to available info. Our IRC Channel (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/06/20030608214842.shtml) is (and will be) also open for going live chat.

[adamfilip]

sounds good

better find some card board, duct tape and aluminum foil.. so i can make a dish and strap it around my neck. i think that is the only way i will get that signal. or just a good tan..

[daveL]

A 3.5 hour keynote? Wow! Maybe they just reserved that much uplink and will use some of it for other stuff?

[stoid]

two questions:

how much are satelite dishes

how fast can I get one put in

[Photorun]

ARG!!! I wish Apple/Jobs would get it through it's thick skulls that creating buzz by showing these things is a GOOD thing. They should stream it, if they had a smarts.

Maybe it'll be like the iTunes Music store which wasn't streamed but I found it on MSNBC's website being streamed in Windoze Media Player format only. Yep, I had to go to a MICROSUCK site and use a MICROSUCK streaming player to watch the Apple iTunes keynote announcement... I mean... WTF Apple?!!? Get a clue! You've got fans, broadcast these damn things, learn to market yourself a little better.

Grrrr!

[Jerry Spoon]

I'll still be sleeping, but I'll now alter my head position on my pillow and wrap my head in reynolds wrap. I'll wake up knowing all about the new offerings from Apple!!! :D

[heuer007]

who the hell still has a C-Band dish. I think 99% of North America has converted to Directv/Dish Network/Express Vu

C-Band is decades old technology so you think Apple would at least broadcast the stream on one of the major satellite providers

[szark]

Originally posted by heuer007
who the hell still has a C-Band dish. I think 99% of North America has converted to Directv/Dish Network/Express Vu

C-Band is decades old technology so you think Apple would at least broadcast the stream on one of the major satellite providers

Well, the satellite broadcast is really intended for news outlets, so they can pick it up and rebroadcast it to us.

[heuer007]

ok ic, so what channel do you think will give the best coverage? CNBC perhaps?

[barhoptheworld]

because of the lack of cable providers most of europe (atleast germany) has older satelites. I mean everybody has a satelite. You can enter in all the frequency information and everything

[tokyo2002]

I did a quick search for TC2D satellite and it seems to be a european only satellite anyways. Does us here in North America no good.

[ColoJohnBoy]

Does anybody in or around Denver have a satellite dish?!?!?! We could have a Keyntoe party - I'll even provide the drinks. Somebody, ANYBODY! :D:D:D

[Phil Of Mac]

Too bad I'm at college. I still have a C-Band dish at home. (Apple generally broadcasts both on C-band and Ku-band).

Oh, and that probably is a European satellite. It's definitely not any satellite I know of.

[coolbreeze]

Forgive me if I am being too 'modern,' but how many people reallyuse the old satellite dishes anymore? With the advent of DirecTV and Dish Network, etc, why on earth would someone have a monsterous dish hogging their yard?

I'm just curious about this broadast strategy. Please stream it....I mean, Apple does want to include it's fans (and potential switchers) to experience the 'buzz' these things generate, right???

Instead we are forced to rely on "secret operatives" that are at the Keynote, who can hopefully send bits and pieces of what is going on, as we (those without these dishes) crash every mac rumor site out there.

Maybe I'm wrong?

[AidenShaw]

That satellite is located roughly above Liberia/Cote d'Ivoire in Africa.

It might be possible to pick it up from the east coast of the US - assuming that your dish can swivel down to point at the horizon....

[pkradd]

I believe the keynote will be available via Quicktime from the Apple site on a delayed basis later in the day or at least by Wednesday. It was last year.

[Freg3000]

Originally posted by daveL
A 3.5 hour keynote? Wow! Maybe they just reserved that much uplink and will use some of it for other stuff?

Yes, I would like to know what that is about.

[Phil Of Mac]

I don't know about anyone else, but as for my family, we bought a C-band dish in the mid-90's, and later joined Dish Network. However, we still have the old dish. Right now it's reserved for Expo use :)

News organizations and the media also still use C-Band, which is why Apple broadcasts their keynotes on it.

I'm sure many of you remember WWDC, when a few sites listed every university with a C-Band dish that was going to show the WWDC keynote.

[MacFan26]

Do you think any of the Apple retail stores will be broadcasting it?

[Phil Of Mac]

I'd say that'd be the place to be, personally.

[BigJayhawk]

Originally posted by MacFan26
Do you think any of the Apple retail stores will be broadcasting it?

At 3am EST, 2AM Central, 1AM Mountain, midnight Pacific (in the U.S. anyway)???

Probably Not.

[MacFan26]

Ah, good point. :)

[mrjamin]

wahey! 1hr offset for me :D might see if there's any way i can tune in...

[junktruck]

Hello all,

Couple of things here...

1) The satellite feed is a Digital Ku-Band satellite feed. You'll need a Ku-Band Dish and need a Digital Ku-Band Reciever. The type News ENG guys run.

2) The satellite is somewhere over Europe. Tc2D is the name of the Satellite. Point the dish there if you have the right gear. As for the US, unless Apple puts it up on a North American Satellite, we're out of luck (Also the Apple Stores).

3) the 3.5 Hour Window is made up of parts. One hour is a test window. Usually Bars and Tone for an hour or so. Then a Half hour to an Hour of people milling about. Then a Hour Keynote where I hope hear the sweet, sweet words of a 15" powerbook being released. Then a half hour tape feed of Highlights for News, and Vendors at the end.

Good luck picking this one up. If so post what's happening and if I get to spend more money on Apple Computer.

Junk.

[AidenShaw]

Originally posted by junktruck
2) The satellite is somewhere over Europe. Tc2D is the name of the Satellite.

Actually, it's over the Atlantic Ocean south of Africa - since synchronous satellites are equatorial.

It's roughly due south of Portugal and Ireland on the equator.

[goldmember]

ARG!!! I wish Apple/Jobs would get it through it's thick skulls that creating buzz by showing these things is a GOOD thing. They should stream it, if they had a smarts.

Maybe it'll be like the iTunes Music store which wasn't streamed but I found it on MSNBC's website being streamed in Windoze Media Player format only. Yep, I had to go to a MICROSUCK site and use a MICROSUCK streaming player to watch the Apple iTunes keynote announcement... I mean... WTF Apple?!!? Get a clue! You've got fans, broadcast these damn things, learn to market yourself a little better.

Grrrr!

Actually, it was streamed in QuickTime 6 on Apple.com the same day.

[Noiseboy]

Does Steve speake fluent French? Maybe the whole thing will be 'en Francais' and most of us won't understand it anyway.
There again, perhaps Steve holding up a 15" PB with the letters G5 on the screen would require no translation.:D (Wishfull thinking obviously)

Pip pip.

[Phil Of Mac]

I doubt it. Steve did a keynote in Japan in English.

[Noiseboy]

Ah. I'll put my French/English dictionary away again:)

[szark]

Originally posted by AidenShaw
Actually, it's over the Atlantic Ocean south of Africa - since synchronous satellites are equatorial.

It's roughly due south of Portugal and Ireland on the equator.


Just so everyone knows exactly where it is: (courtesy of J-Track 3D (http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/RealTime/JTrack/3d/JTrack3D.html) )

[Stelliform]

For the last two keynotes I think I was reading what someone in Britain was typing from his satelite feed. So all we have to do is to find a really nice Brit who is willing to help and type for us in the MR chat room.

Any Volunteers?

[balconycollapse]

Apple only seems eager to broadcast "exciting" events. Maybe there isn't really anything earth shattering that will be revealed? My other guess is that they won't be able to broadcast it because Apple Records has found some other way to sue Apple computer involving broadcast media and satellites. They soon will make even just mentioning the word apple in the produce section illegal unless you plan to send the Beatles 2 dollars in the mail. Greed! All you need is love...apparently not :)

Just wondering...does microsoft broadcast like events for their company? I'm afraid to visit their website.

In other news Virgin Records has taken a suit out on everyone who is celibate.

Sorry for cross posting in a way.

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When you've got the dixie chicks and the pope against you something must be wrong. -micheal moore on gw

[psxndc]

What a crappy day for me to have surgery. Well, at least I can enjoy percoset-induced hallucinations of 15" PowerBook updates.

-p

[Fukui]

Originally posted by balconycollapse
Just wondering...does microsoft broadcast like events for their company? I'm afraid to visit their website.
Why would Microsoft do a Live webstream of an insane monkey dance and a Janet Reno lookalike??

[punter]

I'm expecting something exciting. I'll have my credit card ready.

There is an AU$300 rebate if you buy a laptop and ipod for education at the same time here in Australia.

The ipods have just been updated and lowered in price, there's a good chance of new laptops (powerbooks AND ibooks, I reckon!), all on education pricing plus $300 back! I'll never see a better opportunity to buy!

All the planets are coming into alignment bwahahaah!

[reidab]

I wonder what kind of a connection they have running wirelessly in the keynote room. Perhaps some kind person with an iSight could point it at the front of the room and run a low quality stream from within (based, of course, on bandwidth constraints), or stream to a location from which it could be rebroadcast. Maybe even audio only would do the trick. Of course, they're probably running NAT on the network so it would be difficult to actually have clients connect to a stream on that network directly. It would pretty much have to be rebroadcast.

So, anyone going to be at the expo with an iSight or other camera who could open iChat AV and start a video chat with another volunteer who happens to have access to a big pipe and knowledge of streaming technologies? Then they could either stream the image from their screen or even aim a camera at the picture. I'm sure it would be appreciated.

Apple gives us iSight and iChat and Quicktime streaming server, why don't we use it to get our stream?

(yes, i know, it's far fetched)

[Nermal]

reidab, I've got NAT on my network and I can at least broadcast audio on the internet, I don't have a camera so don't know about video. Of course it would depend on the software being used etc. So this is definitely possible (if they're offering wireless), but Apple may surprise us and provide a stream anyway.

PS. Welcome to the forums :)

[pwrbkdude]

Ok, time to actually post! I got newbi-itus!

Anywho, here is how we could create our own webstream. Quite easy actually. Someone who has access to the satelitte feed would need an analog to dv converter so they can pump the signal into their mac. that mac would run quicktime broadcaster which would compress and send the stream to a machine running quicktime streaming server.

So in summary, we need someone with a decent mac, broadband internet and a analog - dv converter.

Person number two needs to have quicktime streaming server and one BOATLOAD of bandwidth to serve up to the community.

lets do it!!! show apple how to do it cause even at 3am EST i bet i will be up!

[MacsRgr8]

Originally posted by Noiseboy
Does Steve speake fluent French? Maybe the whole thing will be 'en Francais' and most of us won't understand it anyway.
There again, perhaps Steve holding up a 15" PB with the letters G5 on the screen would require no translation.:D (Wishfull thinking obviously)

Pip pip.

Last year's keynote was in English. Don't forget this is the one and only keynote for Europe, not only France. As more Europeans speak English more fluently than French, it is a good thing Steve keeps it English.
Mind you, the Expo is French, but that I find logical, because there are more European expos than this one. Keep it localized...

[Freg3000]

Originally posted by pwrbkdude
Ok, time to actually post! I got newbi-itus!

Anywho, here is how we could create our own webstream. Quite easy actually. Someone who has access to the satelitte feed would need an analog to dv converter so they can pump the signal into their mac. that mac would run quicktime broadcaster which would compress and send the stream to a machine running quicktime streaming server.

So in summary, we need someone with a decent mac, broadband internet and a analog - dv converter.

Person number two needs to have quicktime streaming server and one BOATLOAD of bandwidth to serve up to the community.

lets do it!!! show apple how to do it cause even at 3am EST i bet i will be up!

I almost fulfill person number 1, but my analog source is television, not satellite. Let alone the fact that I will be dreaming about the keynote in my sleep . :)

[NoPrideELF]

Originally posted by goldmember
Actually, it was streamed in QuickTime 6 on Apple.com the same day.

How long later?

[goldmember]

Not sure, maybe a few hours. I watched it the afternoon (pst) the day the music store was introduced.

[wdlove]

Originally posted by pkradd
I believe the keynote will be available via Quicktime from the Apple site on a delayed basis later in the day or at least by Wednesday. It was last year.

Yes, I will look forward to viewing Steve's Paris Keynote via Quicktime. Sounds like it should be available by the time I will be online!

[Roller]

Originally posted by Macrumors
MacBidouille claims to have (http://www.hardmac.com/niouzcontenu.php?date=2003-09-13#578) the satellite broadcast location for the Apple Expo keynote:



If possible, MacRumors will try to provide live-coverage, and/or provide links to available info. Our IRC Channel (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/06/20030608214842.shtml) is (and will be) also open for going live chat.

Just to clarify, the keynote time slot begins at 9 AM Paris time, which is 3 AM Eastern Daylight Time and 12 AM Pacific Daylight time.

[zigzag]

Looks like its gonna be a long night for me ;)

EST here.

[Photorun]

Wow! I wish I was on the west coast, I'd still be up! Sadly I live on the east coast, hence, that's a bit past my bedtime!

[testnull]

Gosh, is this time stuff really that confusing? The keynote is actually at 1AM PDT or 4AM EDT. It's at 3AM EST. Right now most of the east cost is in daylight savings time, but not Indiana.

[BigJayhawk]

Remember everyone, the satellite feed starting time and the keynote starting time are probably different. As was mentioned earlier in this thread, there is likely 1 hour in the feed PRIOR TO the keynote starting. I think the keynote is at 4am East Coast and 1am West Coast although the satellite feed starts earlier.

[testnull]

You're confusing me now. When you say East Coast you mean EDT, right? I'm in EST right now. I think the post on the front page was intended to say EDT.

[BigJayhawk]

The Keynote is listed as 10AM in Paris Time . . .

Resulting in . . .

4AM in New York City

3AM in Chicago

2AM in Denver

1AM in Los Angeles

Everyone else should be able to extrapolate from these times (in the U.S. anyway)