Apple 'Garage Band'? - New Trademark

[MacRumors]

Apple has filed for a new Trademark with United States Patent and Trademark Office (http://www.uspto.gov/) in August 2003.

The newest Trademark is "Garage Band", categorized under "computers, computer software, and computer peripherals; computers, computer software, and computer peripherals."

Apple still has a number of unused Trademarks. Most recently, they registered for a number of animal names (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/07/20030724025054.shtml) -- including Lynx, Cougar, Leopard and Tiger, which could potentially be future OS codename/releases. Other examples of unused names include: Junkyard (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/07/20020726125613.shtml), XGrid (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/11/20021102090635.shtml), and Gigawire (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2001/10/20011017174417.shtml).

Keynote (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2002/10/20021013024617.shtml) was first mentioned in a Trademark application in October 2002, and became a shipping product at MacWorld San Francisco 2003 (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/01/20030107224753.shtml).

[arn]

I'm sure speculation will run wild on this one...

but the first thing that popped into my mind was the thought that with Apple iTunes Music Store... Apple is a 1/2 step away from becoming a record label themselves... signing bands directly and distributing their music.

arn

[simX]

Originally posted by arn
I'm sure speculation will run wild on this one...

but the first thing that popped into my mind was the thought that with Apple iTunes Music Store... Apple is a 1/2 step away from becoming a record label themselves... signing bands directly and distributing their music.

arn

Wait... wouldn't that spark a lawsuit from Apple Recor.... oh, wait. :p

[cb911]

good to see that Apple is thinking ahead... that 'Junkyard' name sounds cool as well...

[Tobsen]

Potential consumer iLogic Audio?

[Tequila Grandma]

Hmm, this is a rather odd name acquisition for Apple. I'm still not quite sure just what they would do with it - it's most likely iTMS related, but I suppose there's a slim chance it's related to some other department.

*head fills with thoughts of G5s growing arms and legs and playing instruments in my garage*

[C14ru5]

Imagine:

"With Garage Band - included with the latest Logic Audio software, you and your friends can distribute YOUR OWN music through the iTunes music store, not just for family or friends, but for the whole world! No need need to deal with pesky lawyers or marketing hazards, Garage Band gives your music an audience which it deserves. Complete with .Mac integration, you can also have a homepage that your listeners can visit..."

...or something like that :cool:

[jj2003]

Originally posted by Tobsen
Potential consumer iLogic Audio?

Hopefully it will be just that. I have been trying to find easy to use and cheap program for making music on Mac. I have not found a good one for me yet.

Apple making a consumer program means user friendliness. Also the engine for the program would be good as they already own Logic Audio that is one of the best programs in the industry. Atleast that's what I have been hearing. I found no demo versio of it available :(

[BaghdadBob]

Originally posted by simX
Wait... wouldn't that spark a lawsuit from Apple Recor.... oh, wait. :p
Yeah, no kidding. Not like there is any current reason Apple records should feel like there is any mistaking them and Apple Corp.

It's so stupid. They're just looking to make some more money without doing much of anything, just like the decade in precedence.

Anyway, as far as the actual rumor in question...uh...too many possibilities...

[skanker]

Originally posted by jj2003
Hopefully it will be just that. I have been trying to find easy to use and cheap program for making music on Mac. I have not found a good one for me yet.

What about Apple Soundtrack? Isn't that what are you looking for?

[johnnowak]

Originally posted by C14ru5
Imagine:

"With Garage Band - included with the latest Logic Audio software, you and your friends can distribute YOUR OWN music through the iTunes music store, not just for family or friends, but for the whole world! No need need to deal with pesky lawyers or marketing hazards, Garage Band gives your music an audience which it deserves. Complete with .Mac integration, you can also have a homepage that your listeners can visit..."

...or something like that :cool:

That would be like bundling a broken hotwheel with a Porsche.

[gotohamish]

Originally posted by C14ru5
Imagine:

"With Garage Band - included with the latest Logic Audio software, you and your friends can distribute YOUR OWN music through the iTunes music store, not just for family or friends, but for the whole world! No need need to deal with pesky lawyers or marketing hazards, Garage Band gives your music an audience which it deserves. Complete with .Mac integration, you can also have a homepage that your listeners can visit..."

...or something like that :cool:

I like your thinking.

Afterall, Apple started in a garage!

[Machead III]

The most obvious thing is for it to be a service allowing small bands to publish their music on the iTunes Music Store, but yeah that would be a huge breach of their deely wit Apple Records.

[C14ru5]

Originally posted by johnnowak
That would be like bundling a broken hotwheel with a Porsche.
Well, then Apple needs to beef up SoundTrack a bit. Right now (from a musician's point of view) it's pathetic. Welcome, iMusic!

[cheesy]

Apple seems to be slowly trying to breech that damn contract with Apple Records. First they changed their name from Apple Computer to Apple, then they released the iPod, then iTunes MS, then Soundtrack, now "Garage Band"?

Screw Apple Records

[LoopHoles]

Originally posted by cheesy
Apple seems to be slowly trying to breech that damn contract with Apple Records. First they changed their name from Apple Computer to Apple, then they released the iPod, then iTunes MS, then Soundtrack, now "Garage Band"?

Screw Apple Records
they should just get a new name. Beatle Records. there! it's almost the same.

and apple computer is still Apple Computer, Inc.

Garage Band will be the section of the iTMS that promotes indie artists.

[Analog Kid]

My hope would be a consumer grade digital recording studio.

Linking with iTMS would be interesting, but getting these tools into the hands of amateurs would be good enough for me.

I'm thinking along the lines of the reduced version of Final Cut...

[Sol]

Garage Band sounds like a category for self-published music. Perhaps Apple will offer this as a new service for .Mac subscribers or maybe as part of a package with Logic included.

As for the Apple Corps lawsuit, it is most likely to end in a huge settlement deal which Apple (the computer company) can more than afford. It is either that or hiring assasins to bump off the remaining Beatles and Yoko Ono.

[MetallicPenguin]

Where did Garage Band come from? I don't see that anywhere in the rumor.

[danielbaars]

Being a musician myself I was surprised by this newsitem. Garage Band already exists in the form of a cool website (http://www.garageband.com) that presents a nice way of showing your music to the world. It's been a while since I put any of my tunes on there but when I did it was nice to read the regular feedback I got from visitors to the site.

Is Apple planning a take-over?

Musically yours,


Daniel Baars

[sandsl]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
Where did Garage Band come from? I don't see that anywhere in the rumor.

Try reading the rumor.

[bennetsaysargh]

Originally posted by C14ru5
Imagine:

"With Garage Band - included with the latest Logic Audio software, you and your friends can distribute YOUR OWN music through the iTunes music store, not just for family or friends, but for the whole world! No need need to deal with pesky lawyers or marketing hazards, Garage Band gives your music an audience which it deserves. Complete with .Mac integration, you can also have a homepage that your listeners can visit..."

...or something like that :cool:
i like your thinking too. that would be the best!

Originally posted by danielbaars
Being a musician myself I was surprised by this newsitem. Garage Band already exists in the form of a cool website (http://www.garageband.com) that presents a nice way of showing your music to the world. It's been a while since I put any of my tunes on there but when I did it was nice to read the regular feedback I got from visitors to the site.

Is Apple planning a take-over?

that would be a possibility i suppose:)

[MetallicPenguin]

Originally posted by sandsl
Try reading the rumor.
Oops! I read the rumor and then I read this htne read the middle of the rumor and didn't see it. Sorry I'm an idiot and I had just woken up...

[ThomasJefferson]

Since Apple is being sued by Apple, maybe "cat fancy" magazine will sue Apple - for using feline names it had in print first.

I won't worry till microsoft names a future operating system, "Microsoft Apocalypse".

[pivo6]

I think it's the name of Steve's new band whose music will only be available through iTunes. :cool:

Actually I think it will be the introduction of small label artists to iTunes.

[Stelliform]

I certainly seems like Steve wants to revisit that original deal with Apple Records and do away with it. I think he was just biding his time waiting for the beatle mania to die down even more. He can walk into court now and say, ok what have they done in the last 10 years?, and look at what I have done.

[Loopy]

Originally posted by jj2003
Hopefully it will be just that. I have been trying to find easy to use and cheap program for making music on Mac. I have not found a good one for me yet.

Apple making a consumer program means user friendliness. Also the engine for the program would be good as they already own Logic Audio that is one of the best programs in the industry. Atleast that's what I have been hearing. I found no demo versio of it available :(

I've been using logic for over 10 years on a mac, sod the cost go and buy it there is no other program that can touch it.

When my G52G turns up It's already to go I hope.

[Loopy]

Originally posted by C14ru5
Imagine:

"With Garage Band - included with the latest Logic Audio software, you and your friends can distribute YOUR OWN music through the iTunes music store, not just for family or friends, but for the whole world! No need need to deal with pesky lawyers or marketing hazards, Garage Band gives your music an audience which it deserves. Complete with .Mac integration, you can also have a homepage that your listeners can visit..."

...or something like that :cool:

Very cool and very important.

[Loopy]

Originally posted by skanker
What about Apple Soundtrack? Isn't that what are you looking for?

Not quite the same as Logic.

lets hope v7 includes some of this programs code.

[Freg3000]

If Apple were to become its own record label...or enable users to create their own music and sell it on the iTMS, I would have a hard time supporting them in the Apple vs. Apple case. I mean, even though people still wouldn't get confused, it is much more of a possibility now.

[kerryb]

Only kidding, Apple will no way re-brand the ITMS. This could be however some mixing soft for the non pro user. Make your own recordings of your garage band, who needs a big record label. I wish this type of software was around when I had my garage band.

[cbfro]

has anyone thought about the possibility that this could have something to do with those new periphials for the ipod... say...RECORD

[bennetsaysargh]

thats another possibiliity. then you could sync it onto your mac, and sync it into either soundtrack
logic
or iTunes:)

[mxpiazza]

generally, dosen't the filing of a trademark signal a possible prouduct farther down the road? we're all thinking this will be something announced this or next week, just because this is when it was found and put on a rumor site... it could be nothing or it could be everything, but it won't be this week.

[s10]

...or is it a docking /reload station for the new bluetooth mouse and keyboard?

..or even better a car adaptor/ dock for the iPod....

[Freg3000]

Originally posted by mxpiazza
generally, dosen't the filing of a trademark signal a possible prouduct farther down the road? we're all thinking this will be something announced this or next week, just because this is when it was found and put on a rumor site... it could be nothing or it could be everything, but it won't be this week.

I don't doubt that it won't be this Tuesday. That is way to close, unless Apple is just showing it off, without releasing it, (whatever "it" is).

[supercres]

Remember that the new G5 towers have that nifty optical audio port. I'm thinking advanced-consumer-grade recording software, bundled with appropriate hardware-- something that every "garage band" can use.

Second guess has to do with getting smaller-name bands onto iTMS.

[just a thought]

From knowlege I have (not telling where), I think the best guess is that it's an application to rip & submit music to ITMS.

However, it is not a consumer application, instead the name of the application that Apple will be supplying to independent labels that it has contacted back in June to bring their catalogs to ITMS.

One of the major elements of their independent label plan was that they (Apple) would have to do as little work as possible (i.e. same deal for all labels and, more importantly in this situation, the labels would rip the songs to AAC themselves).

From discussions I've had with people that absolutely know, this application was promised for September delivery, but no one has heard a peep from Apple since June.

My guess is that Garage Band is the application that will be delivered to labels shortly.

Finally, good music on ITMS!

[arn]

Originally posted by mxpiazza
generally, dosen't the filing of a trademark signal a possible prouduct farther down the road? we're all thinking this will be something announced this or next week, just because this is when it was found and put on a rumor site... it could be nothing or it could be everything, but it won't be this week.

not necessarily.

iPod wasn't trademarked until the release.

arn

[supercres]

Originally posted by arn
iPod wasn't trademarked until the release.

Can you imagine if some trademark squatter had snapped up the name "iPod" a week before commercial release, and we'd all be calling it the "iCase" or "iNut" or somethhing?

I know absolutely nothing about trademark law, so this probably wouldn't happen...

[lewdvig]

Its a new label.

Apple is going to promote and publish young artists using its distribution channel: iTMS.

[mclosers]

Isn't their like a two week period after a trademark is granted till the info is released to the public? I thought I heard that somewhere before. Also I'd like to see te indie artists on the iTunes Music Store Soon and European Customers too. That'd spur a lot of sales. Then when they go down a bit bam release ITMS for windows then wait a while and go international. This has a ton more growth in it. P.S. I have a feeling apple knew what they were doing when the ipod and itms came out in reguards to Aple Records. I don't think they'll lose the case. Because you must defend your trademarks and ITMS was out for a while before the lawsuit was filed and because no one would confuse Apple Computers and Apple Records(No one knows about apple records LOL)

[bennetsaysargh]

Originally posted by supercres
Remember that the new G5 towers have that nifty optical audio port. I'm thinking advanced-consumer-grade recording software, bundled with appropriate hardware-- something that every "garage band" can use.

Second guess has to do with getting smaller-name bands onto iTMS.
well, no offense, but thats kinda stupid. a garage band trying to make it big probably wont have enough money for a G5, even if it is discounted a little. and then what's to stop other people from saying that they are a garage band? anyone can play horrible instruments and call it a garage band. with government and education, you need to have verification that you are an educator or a government employee, don't you?

[pbooktebo]

I think that it is likely this could be used with the ITMS, but not to allow users to post their own material. What I think it likely is that this will allow Apple to create a sub-category or separate store, so that the big labels could rest assured that their artists won't be confused or diluted.

I think this because it seems that pleasing the labels, rather than technical issues, seems to be holding back the spread of ITMS. This could be one more form of assurance that lets the labels feel comfortable while allowing for a huge catalog explosion.

I DON'T think that Apple would allow people to submit music themselves to ITMS. Think of the care that goes into the tracks up there now (intelligent selection of 30-second clip, amazing encoding, etc.). I think the previous threads that said CD Baby would perform that service for a price makes sense because then you'd see that "cover charge" insure proper encoding and filing, and it would keep away artists with such low quality that they can't afford the $50-100 it costs to prepare the music.

Finally, Apple does seem to be taking advantage of their Logic purpose, and a simplified app a-la iMovie for recording audio doesn't seem too far-fetched, although "Garage Band" seems a little passe, since many of us now making music are doing it in home studios rather than the old style with amps cranked up in basements and garages. I know that I do most of it with a simple mic, my acoustic bass, an Oxygen-8, and Reason and Live.

[bennetsaysargh]

i just thought of another possibility. garage bands could use sound studio to record and mix. apple already bundles sound studio, so they could probably buy it, and then rename it garage band.

[socbyset]

Originally posted by jj2003
Hopefully it will be just that. I have been trying to find easy to use and cheap program for making music on Mac. I have not found a good one for me yet.
Originally posted by skanker
What about Apple Soundtrack? Isn't that what are you looking for?

I think Soundtrack is an excellent tool for producing music from a set of loops and effects.. but not for composing music from original scores or recording.

tho I am not sure "garage band" is the best name for a consumer audio app anyway. Is the finished product too loud & out of tune? :)

I would have to agree w/ whoever said it will likely be something to allow unsigned bands to participate in iTMS..

[crees!]

Originally posted by pbooktebo
What I think it likely is that this will allow Apple to create a sub-category or separate store, so that the big labels could rest assured that their artists won't be confused or diluted.

This would be a total insult to indie labels. There are indie bands out there now that beat the pants off of major label bands. Also there are indie labels that have a hefty lineup of kickass bands too.

[LimeiBook86]

I think this "Garage Band" thing will be a low end version of Soundtrack, or something. That uploading to iTMS sounds good to me though :) It would make my brother happy...

[juniormaj]

Originally posted by just a thought
From knowlege I have (not telling where), I think the best guess is that it's an application to rip & submit music to ITMS.

However, it is not a consumer application, instead the name of the application that Apple will be supplying to independent labels that it has contacted back in June to bring their catalogs to ITMS.

One of the major elements of their independent label plan was that they (Apple) would have to do as little work as possible (i.e. same deal for all labels and, more importantly in this situation, the labels would rip the songs to AAC themselves).

From discussions I've had with people that absolutely know, this application was promised for September delivery, but no one has heard a peep from Apple since June.

My guess is that Garage Band is the application that will be delivered to labels shortly.

Finally, good music on ITMS!

This sounds like the most logical suggestion so far.

[pgwalsh]

Maybe they'll finally be releasing an Apple branded music application for creating your own music. Something coming from the eMagic acquisition.

[BaghdadBob]

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
well, no offense, but thats kinda stupid. a garage band trying to make it big probably wont have enough money for a G5, even if it is discounted a little. and then what's to stop other people from saying that they are a garage band? anyone can play horrible instruments and call it a garage band. with government and education, you need to have verification that you are an educator or a government employee, don't you?
Have you seen how much a set of drums cost? If a band put their money together they could do it, otherwise they probably don't have enough money to put together a band (think instruments, speakers, amps, PA) what to speak of record anything.

And who said anything about "verification", would you have to present your "not a rock star" badge to get the recording software? No one has to prove they are a digital photographer to get iPhoto.

Originally posted by crees!
This would be a total insult to indie labels. There are indie bands out there now that beat the pants off of major label bands. Also there are indie labels that have a hefty lineup of kickass bands too.
I don't think this is in reference to indie labels as much as the prospect of bands that are independent of label to have their own shelf space, because that kind of stuff has been known to dilute a digital store or two before. I agree that actual labels of any worth should be in the same categories as the Big 5.

But, as stated before, due to the care Apple has put into the product of the rest of the store, I don't see anyone submitting to iTMS completely independantly as the encoding and samples are important to the overall iTMS experience. I think it is much more likely that it is some sort of recording software, to which I say: cool.

[silvergunuk]

You know what could be a great idea? If apple held their own pop idol/american idol competitions where everyday people from all over can sing at some hall or venue and apple broadcast it live over the internet. The winner could have his/her songs available on the itunes music store for a whole year and apple could back up the production costs and use their own software to make the music videos plus an ipod and imac thrown in for free. That would be great and the publicity around it would be sky high. Plus it would help break itunes to the mass market when itunes music store becomes available for windows and the rest of the world. International fame in a matter of days. Plus the winner gets to sing for the adverts of the itunes music store itself.

[balconycollapse]

i think supercres post is pretty dead on...some correspondence i recieved from a very reliable source in my music forum...thought it might shed some light on garage band...speculate how you will...it is as follows...

------------------
"i was talking to this guy XXXXXX who is really tight w a few apple developers

he is quite well respected in the engineer/producer circles

he mixed the XXXXXXX album for instance

anyways he was telling me how Apple are going to totally make their computers Logic related in so far as there will eventually be dedicated hardware like keys or ext controllers etc + even parts of the OSX system will be optimised w Logic in mind

they want to make Logic & Macs the be all & end all"

-----------------------
so perhaps apple is going to venture out into a consumer market recording suite plus hardware...i could see it catching on like wildfire if it is properly engineered...there are so many musicians who aren't focused enough or get mixed messages from sniveling music store guys to know the products they really need to produce something that sounds good...like always buying unnecessary 2nd 3rd guitars, hardware thats antiquated or some other magic bullet they think will deliver them...i think...wait...i know so...that with the advent of the g5 one can more easily rival pro studios...its been rivaled with g3 and g4s...just more friendly now :)

my only other thought on garage band is that it may be some sort of contest apple wants to launch like american idol type stuff and the winner gets a mac studio or some service apple will offer for indie artists...

in defense of soundtrack its actually quite a strong app...give it a break its first generation...its like ACID from sonic foundry but with apple intelligence...it will only be improved..i welcome the addition of apple loop utility that integrates seamlessly with ableton live and just remember...soundtrack is its name....scoring and voiceover for video...post production...not intended in concept for full fledged band recordings...although...it could be done...tempting when there are all those seductive logic plugs bundled with it...

and for those who want to use it for that...hopefully garage band is something that will fit yours and my needs better...

"we need (apple) to wave their magic wand and make (music production) special again" -sorry couldn't help quasi quoting waiting for guffman

ok...here is the other part of the same correspondence for you music heads like me i found intriguing...software sponsorship...nike gives shoes...apple gives dongles...AFX is Aphex Twin...BT i believe is http://www.bt-network.org/
-------------------------

"hows this

BT did all the sound etc for Ssteve Jobs G5 seminar thingie at MWorld expo doo-daa

when steve was showing the g5s specs re music it was all BTs music & his set-up he was pointing to

since apple have emagic BT got as payment 5 Master dongles for ALL emagic products

this USB dongles open every Emagic product avail now & in the future

evidently the V top artists have them & even artists leftfield like AFX have them.

man that would ROCK! hard imo"


-------------
howard dean 2004

[Photorun]

ORRR... maybe it's a new wavelength frequency that's made for Airport to broadcast direction to your gara....

nah.

[lewdvig]

Originally posted by balconycollapse
i think supercres post is pretty dead on...some correspondence i recieved from a very reliable source in my music forum...thought it might shed some light on garage band...speculate how you will...it is as follows...

------------------
"i was talking to this guy XXXXXX who is really tight w a few apple developers

he is quite well respected in the engineer/producer circles

he mixed the XXXXXXX album for instance

anyways he was telling me how Apple are going to totally make their computers Logic related in so far as there will eventually be dedicated hardware like keys or ext controllers etc + even parts of the OSX system will be optimised w Logic in mind

they want to make Logic & Macs the be all & end all"

-----------------------
so perhaps apple is going to venture out into a consumer market recording suite plus hardware...i could see it catching on like wildfire if it is properly engineered...there are so many musicians who aren't focused enough or get mixed messages from sniveling music store guys to know the products they really need to produce something that sounds good...like always buying unnecessary 2nd 3rd guitars, hardware thats antiquated or some other magic bullet they think will deliver them...i think...wait...i know so...that with the advent of the g5 one can more easily rival pro studios...its been rivaled with g3 and g4s...just more friendly now :)

my only other thought on garage band is that it may be some sort of contest apple wants to launch like american idol type stuff and the winner gets a mac studio or some service apple will offer for indie artists...

in defense of soundtrack its actually quite a strong app...give it a break its first generation...its like ACID from sonic foundry but with apple intelligence...it will only be improved..i welcome the addition of apple loop utility that integrates seamlessly with ableton live and just remember...soundtrack is its name....scoring and voiceover for video...post production...not intended in concept for full fledged band recordings...although...it could be done...tempting when there are all those seductive logic plugs bundled with it...

and for those who want to use it for that...hopefully garage band is something that will fit yours and my needs better...

"we need (apple) to wave their magic wand and make (music production) special again" -sorry couldn't help quasi quoting waiting for guffman

ok...here is the other part of the same correspondence for you music heads like me i found intriguing...software sponsorship...nike gives shoes...apple gives dongles...AFX is Aphex Twin...BT i believe is http://www.bt-network.org/
-------------------------

"hows this

BT did all the sound etc for Ssteve Jobs G5 seminar thingie at MWorld expo doo-daa

when steve was showing the g5s specs re music it was all BTs music & his set-up he was pointing to

since apple have emagic BT got as payment 5 Master dongles for ALL emagic products

this USB dongles open every Emagic product avail now & in the future

evidently the V top artists have them & even artists leftfield like AFX have them.

man that would ROCK! hard imo"


-------------
howard dean 2004


You should join the Core Audio mailing list and see if there are any hints there.

I think BT actually did a promo video when OSX came out and an interview somewhere about how great MacOS was and how he lived with his 15" PB.

Trent Reznor is a big Mac head too, right?

AFX makes his own equipment I thought.

Maybe Garage Band is why Digi took so long to get PT on OSX. When I was in the loop (no pun intended) they said it was because core audio was not done yet.

Digi seems to be pushing WinTel but it does not seem as though anyone is buying that.

[pjhornak]

Originally posted by MetallicPenguin
Where did Garage Band come from? I don't see that anywhere in the rumor.


they got the idea from me check out my previous post

it wasn't exactally flattery

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by Freg3000
If Apple were to become its own record label...or enable users to create their own music and sell it on the iTMS, I would have a hard time supporting them in the Apple vs. Apple case. I mean, even though people still wouldn't get confused, it is much more of a possibility now.

Apple Corps is suing Apple Computer over contract infringement, not trademark infringement, since Apple Computer agreed not to get into "the music industry".

Originally posted by lewdvig
Its a new label.

Apple is going to promote and publish young artists using its distribution channel: iTMS.

Dude, read the rumor.

Does a music label fall under the category of "computers, computer software, and computer peripherals"?

Originally posted by supercres
Remember that the new G5 towers have that nifty optical audio port. I'm thinking advanced-consumer-grade recording software, bundled with appropriate hardware-- something that every "garage band" can use.

Now that's a possibility.

[supercres]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Now that's a possibility.

The more I think about it, the better this option seems, and more likely. Apple already has its pro-/advanced consumer-level video editing software. It seems like branching into audio is the way to go for them.

I really don't think Apple would have stuck that optical port on the G5 without having their own peripherial on the way, or at least their own software ;)

I know someone mentioned the "fact" that a "garage band" isn't going to use a G5 with expensive software to do recordings, but think about it-- it's far more convenient that going to a studio, and far cheaper than building one's own studio, hm? I know I'd love to have it to lay down some of my own tunes with a jazz combo... And if it's never going through analog, think of the quality...

[Photorun]

It very well could be Apple is going to come out with a digital suite ala ProTools (Apple Corps be damned). It's rather sad too because ProTools was once a bastion of the Mac-only variety, they were almost synonymous. Most real musicians worth any salt use Macs anyways (WIntel? Art? Mutually exclusive!) and if you go to the Digidesign Protools site and see their section on artists using Protools you see something interesting, first off, it's almost a who's who of sorts, and second, when they talk about their set-up it's close to 100% Mac (as it should be).

I guess if I had a point I doubt DigiDesign would drop the Mac but it DOES annoy me that the screen captures in their help is of dialogue boxes of ugly gray PC or crappy XP rip-off of OS X, used to be all Mac OS (9). As a Protools intermediate user who kinda gets annoyed, especially from some of the quirks (like not seeing the 001 Firewire rack system or my Mbox hooked to my iBook on the road acting funky, not good funky) and very obtuse instructions and sometimes a lot of trial and error to get things to work... I'd be perfectly happy if Apple came out with a strong competitor. But please don't name it Garage Band unless it's like a cheap iLife app! That's almost make sense.

[iMeowbot]

Adding some groupware abilities into Soundtrack could serve as another hook to sell .Mac subscriptions. Joint composition or recording in near-real time like that can be fun, but moving the files around tends to be awkward right now.

[lewdvig]

Originally posted by Photorun
It very well could be Apple is going to come out with a digital suite ala ProTools (Apple Corps be damned). It's rather sad too because ProTools was once a bastion of the Mac-only variety, they were almost synonymous. Most real musicians worth any salt use Macs anyways (WIntel? Art? Mutually exclusive!) and if you go to the Digidesign Protools site and see their section on artists using Protools you see something interesting, first off, it's almost a who's who of sorts, and second, when they talk about their set-up it's close to 100% Mac (as it should be).


I think Digi were disappointed that they had to come out with an OSX version. Maybe they thought more people would buy PCs?

Kinda like that copmment the Quark CEO made last year. Paraphrased, 'if you want a new version of Quark so bad, buy a PC - they are faster anyway!'

And all of a sudden InDesign is selling well.

[lewdvig]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Dude, read the rumor.
Does a music label fall under the category of "computers, computer software, and computer peripherals"?


Sorry rumor cop!

iTMS does not fall into that category either.

Steve has always had Hollywood motives so I think that the label rumor is valid, if highly unlikely.

I can not see a software product being called Garage Band. I think a distribution label or contest is more likely.

What I am suggesting is not a reord label that finds and manages artists, but a distribution label. Kind of like Activision distributing id's Doom III.

All those indie labels would have a solid distribution channel and would seriously push the Apple brand. They can not distribute music as Apple because of the Beatles/Apple thingy.

I am right. Just admit it.

[lewdvig]

could be mastering software though...

Apple won't do MIDI electronic music type software with a name like 'Garage Band.' Maybe earlier poster is right, bring raw unmixed tracks into 'Garage Band' and Mix and Master the music.

Who knows... just big brain Steve.

[themadchemist]

Originally posted by cb911
good to see that Apple is thinking ahead... that 'Junkyard' name sounds cool as well...

yeah, I imagine 'Junkyard' is being saved for the day that Apple buys Microsoft.

[bennetsaysargh]

i think iTMS can be considered software. it runs through iTunes, which is software.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
i think iTMS can be considered software. it runs through iTunes, which is software.

It's more properly considered a service. I mean, MacRumors runs through Safari, which is software, but it's not software itself.

The trademark indicates that Garage Band itself will be a computer software or peripheral, or both. Not a record label or service, since those would be under different categories.

[lewdvig]

Just to prove I am a nice guy, Phil is right. The iTMS has a different trademark than that for just iTunes:

iTMS:
'Retail store services in the field of entertainment, namely, musical and audiovisual works and related merchandise, provided via the internet and other computer and electronic communication networks; Retail store services in the field of entertainment, namely, musical and audiovisual works and related merchandise, provided via the internet and other computer and electronic communication networks.'

iTunes:
'Computer software for use in authoring, downloading, transmitting, receiving, editing, extracting, encoding, decoding, playing, storing and organizing audio data.'

So, Garage Band is not a label.

[lazyrighteye]

Apple (the label) suing Apple (the computer company) is about as silly as Metallica suing that Canadian band for their use of the E and F chords... but not near as silly. That's one of the most rediculous thing I have heard.

I'm diggin' the whole indie band, distribution through iTMS concept(s). THAT seems soooo Apple - there for the little guy.
Would like to see that door opened.
It was only a matter of time before Apple did for the music indusry what it did for the film industry. Completely redefined.

Rock on.