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MacRumors
Oct 15, 2003, 04:29 PM
Apple posted (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2003/oct/15results.html) their Fourth Quarter results today.

For the quarter, Apple posted a net profit of $44 million or $.12 per diluted share. In comparison, last year's 4th quarter results were a net loss of $45 million.

Apple shipped 787,000 Macs this quarter, and 336,000 iPods, both increases from last year's 4th quarter.

Apple's Finanacial Results Conference call (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/earningsq403/) is taking place at this time.



Balin64
Oct 15, 2003, 04:30 PM
The figures are very impressive considering the comparison to last year's quarter. With the new products and the Holiday season, they should do even better.

dynamicd
Oct 15, 2003, 04:32 PM
Wow, I'm really excited to see where Apple will go from here.

ThomasJefferson
Oct 15, 2003, 04:33 PM
Considering the rest of the computer biz right now, I give this two thumbs up. Now, that said, ship the 7^% &^%^ powerbooks!

jcdenton
Oct 15, 2003, 04:37 PM
Perhaps this will give us a couple of months' respite from the doomsayers.

alia
Oct 15, 2003, 04:38 PM
Way to go! Analysts were expecting 8 cents per share and they came in a whopping 50% over that!

Alia

Frohickey
Oct 15, 2003, 04:41 PM
Yeah... Apple is still on the verge of bankruptcy. :o

Chad4Mac
Oct 15, 2003, 04:42 PM
Alia-

Apple beats estimates by 1 cent: 8 over First Call's 7.


Still a very good 3Q!

Chad4Mac

shadowfax
Oct 15, 2003, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Chad4Mac
Alia-

Apple beats estimates by 1 cent: 8 over First Call's 7. it says they made a profit of 12 cents per diluted share.

this is pretty cool :)

sososowhat
Oct 15, 2003, 04:58 PM
Looks good to me, but:

Why is AAPL down 91 cents (3.6%) after hours on this news?

Chad4Mac
Oct 15, 2003, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by shadowfax
it says they made a profit of 12 cents per diluted share.

this is pretty cool :)

However after GAAP, 8 cents is the SEC reported standard.

Diluted, you have to love the net 12 cents over loss 13 cents previous year quarter...

Chad4Mac

shadowfax
Oct 15, 2003, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Chad4Mac
However after GAAP, 8 cents is the SEC reported standard.

Diluted, you have to love the net 12 cents over loss 13 cents previous year quarter...

Chad4Mac what's the GAAP?

Chad4Mac
Oct 15, 2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by sososowhat
Looks good to me, but:

Why is AAPL down 91 cents (3.6%) after hours on this news?

Buy on the Rumor, Sell on the News.

AAPL has major resistance @ 25-26. I figure that the news is not good enough to bring it over that level. If we could just bring the education market share up, I think that we could break pass this wall...

Tomorrow is a new day, though.

Chad4Mac

Chad4Mac
Oct 15, 2003, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by shadowfax
what's the GAAP?

"The common set of accounting principles, standards, and procedures. GAAP is a combination of authoritative standards (set by policy boards) and the accepted ways of doing accounting.

These are the rules that companies are expected to follow. If a financial statement is not prepared with GAAP principles then be very wary!

That being said, keep in mind that GAAP is only a set of standards. There is plenty of room in GAAP for unscrupulous accountants to distort figures."

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gaap.asp

Really, it's designed to keep EPS on the same level with all other companies; a similar playing field.


Chad4Mac

Nosidda
Oct 15, 2003, 05:14 PM
Excluding a $6 million after-tax investment gain, a favorable accounting adjustment of $3 million related to Apple's stock repurchase efforts, and other one-time items, Apple said the company would have posted earnings of $29 million or 8 cents per share. Analysts were expecting earnings of 7 cents per share, according to First Call.

From Win to Mac
Oct 15, 2003, 05:24 PM
as long as they're not losing money...

Freg3000
Oct 15, 2003, 05:33 PM
Great news. I wonder what would be the results if they expensed stock options though....

GAAP= Generally Accepted Accounting Principles

Mason
Oct 15, 2003, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by sososowhat
Looks good to me, but:

Why is AAPL down 91 cents (3.6%) after hours on this news?

Profit-taking.

iPC
Oct 15, 2003, 06:37 PM
In this case, after GAAP means profits before interest earned on money in the bank/stock stuff.

From Apple:
CUPERTINO, California—October 15, 2003—Apple® today announced financial results for its fiscal 2003 fourth quarter ended September 27, 2003. For the quarter, the Company posted a net profit of $44 million, or $.12 per diluted share. These results compare to a net loss of $45 million, or $.13 per diluted share, in the year-ago quarter. Revenues for the quarter were $1.715 billion, up 19 percent from the year-ago quarter, and gross margins were 26.6 percent, up from 26.4 percent in the year-ago quarter. International sales accounted for 38 percent of the quarter’s revenues.

The quarter’s results include an after-tax investment gain of $6 million, a favorable accounting transition adjustment of $3 million related to Apple’s stock repurchase agreement, and a gain on settlement of the stock repurchase agreement of $6 million. Without these items, net income would have been $29 million, or $.08 per share. Management believes that presentation of results excluding these items provides meaningful supplemental information regarding the Company’s operational performance.

kansaigaijin
Oct 15, 2003, 09:42 PM
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doesn't take kanji-talk input ne?

what I said,

300,000 ipods vs. 700,000 macs!

where is this world going?
and iPod channels are expanding!

mxpiazza
Oct 15, 2003, 09:46 PM
genearally speaking, what is the minimum share buy-in for stock? i would love to grab some shares of apple, but don't know the investment it would require.

reyesmac
Oct 15, 2003, 10:34 PM
Apple comes out with long awaited updates to its macs and delivers more than speed-bumps and they end up making a profit. Gee, who'da thunkit? Maybe they should try doing that every year. Without them just depending on motorola for parts they just might.

Phil Of Mac
Oct 15, 2003, 11:25 PM
This is how Apple did it:

1. Create kick-ass products, such as the world's fastest personal computer, the world's sexist laptop, and the world's sweetest portable music player.
2. ???
3. Profit!!!

Frohickey
Oct 16, 2003, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by mxpiazza
genearally speaking, what is the minimum share buy-in for stock? i would love to grab some shares of apple, but don't know the investment it would require.

Depends. There are outfits that sell one share of AAPL stock. There are brokerage houses where you can buy as many stocks as you want, depending on your cash in the account minus a brokerage fee.