Celebrity diseases

[Doctor Q]

I just heard on the news that Robert De Niro has prostate cancer. I don't see news of it on the web yet, but I'm sure the news will spread fast.

When a celebrity gets a disease, it focuses attention on that disease, and a lot of people read about the symptoms and treatment, and whether you can do anything to lessen your own chances of getting it. It's too bad when anyone gets prostate cancer, and I wish De Niro well, but celebrities help spread medical information simply by being famous and sick at the same time.

I also heard that Alan Alda was rushed to the hospital tonight. Maybe we're about to learn about another disease or condition. Good luck to Alda too.

[MacBandit]

You didn't check Google news. They always have the most up to date news.

I got this off of Google and it says it was posted 5 hours ago.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/102003_nw_deniro.html

Oh, and Alda had a emergency appendectomy.

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20031020.wald1020/BNStory/Entertainment/

By the way the Alda article was 14 hours old on google.:p

[jefhatfield]

michael j fox brought awareness to parkinson's

lou gehrig brought awareness to als

ronald reagan brought awareness to ahlzheimer's

rock hudson and magic johnson brought awareness to hiv

muhammed ali not only brought attention to parkinson's but also to the danger of boxing

steve young brought attention to concussions

christopher reeve brought attention to spinal cord injury

patricia neill brought attention to manic depression as did ted turner

princess diana brought attention to land mines and child amputees

della reese is bringing attention to diabetes

sally struthers brought attention to starvation in the third world

daniel day lewis brought awareness to cerebral palsy

dr ruth brought attention to sex

dr phil brought in pop culture self help

and most famous of all...jerry lewis and his muscular distrophy drives

[Giaguara]

tons of celebs have/had eating disorders .. and a lot of other stuff.

the more people know about (any) disease, the easier for those having that it will be.

[wdlove]

I wish both Robert De Niro and Alan Alda all the best. Public awarness of the diseases is a good thing. It can save many lives. If it just saves one life, then it is well worth the time to publicize.

[Doctor Q]

More...

Madame Curie and Eleanor Roosevelt died of aplastic anemia (AA), as did Mia Hamm's brother Garrett.

Senator Paul Tsongsas and scientist Carl Sagan both died of a related disease: myelodysplastic syndromes (MDS), as did Maureen Starkey, first wife of Ringo Starr.

Betty Ford, having dealt with alcoholism herself, founded her well-known clinic.

[Phil Of Mac]

Michael Jackson made well-known the existence of an obscure genetic condition among African-Americans that turns their skin white.

[Frohickey]

Originally posted by Giaguara
tons of celebs have/had eating disorders .. and a lot of other stuff.

the more people know about (any) disease, the easier for those having that it will be.

Yep.

Calista Flockheart
Jennifer Connelly

[rainman::|:|]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Michael Jackson made well-known the existence of an obscure genetic condition among African-Americans that turns their skin white.

uh huh. it's called 'money'.

pnw

[Counterfit]

Did anyone famous have breast cancer? Someone must have.

[idkew]

Originally posted by jefhatfield
lou gehrig brought awareness to als



i thought he got lou gehrig's deisease- i mean- the chances of getting a diesease named after you... unlucky guy.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by paulwhannel
uh huh. it's called 'money'.

pnw

There is an actual genetic disorder. And Michael Jackson does supposedly have it. It's not something to be lightly dismissed and laughed at.

[mrjamin]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
There is an actual genetic disorder. And Michael Jackson does supposedly have it. It's not something to be lightly dismissed and laughed at.

and you believe the man who claims to have only had "one, maybe 2" operations on his face?

[Phil Of Mac]

I'm not sure he actually has it, but it's been adequately proven that the condition exists.

[mrjamin]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
I'm not sure he actually has it, but it's been adequately proven that the condition exists.

it exists but the effects it has on the skin do not match MJ's skin. Apparently the disorder causes severe blotches, whereas MJ is completely white. Its suggested that MJ wears white tape over his fingernails because he effectively 'bleaches' his skin but obviously can't bleach ths skin under his nails.

[wdlove]

Originally posted by Counterfit
Did anyone famous have breast cancer? Someone must have.

Betty Ford was one of the first one's to come out. It was during her White House tour or shortly there after that she had her mastectomy. She was very vocal for women to do breast self examsand a yearly visit to the doctor.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by mrjamin
it exists but the effects it has on the skin do not match MJ's skin. Apparently the disorder causes severe blotches, whereas MJ is completely white. Its suggested that MJ wears white tape over his fingernails because he effectively 'bleaches' his skin but obviously can't bleach ths skin under his nails.

MJ supposedly uses makeup to even out his skin tone, but the condition makes one's skin vulnerable to sunlight, which is why he wears that silly hat and bandana. Nonetheless, whether he has the condition or not, MJ has made more people aware of it.

[mrjamin]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
whether he has the condition or not, MJ has made more people aware of it.

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can't argue with that!
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[tpjunkie]

The condition is called vitiligo. It causes large patches of melanin deficient skin, which show up as pale white blotches. Sunlight excaberates the condition. My aunt has the disease. If Jackson actually has it, he uses something to even out his skin.

[Sun Baked]

Originally posted by jefhatfield
dr ruth brought attention to sex and Bob Dole made it possible to lift that sunken ship. ;)

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Sun Baked
and Bob Dole made it possible to lift that sunken ship. ;)

That one region of the body has more phrases, synonyms, and similes then I think anything else on earth. It's truly amazing.

[Doctor Q]

A lot of people learned about anorexia for the first time after Karen Carpenter died from it.

"Mama" Cass Elliot died from a heart attack that resulted from long-term obesity and a body weakened by crash diets, but nobody heard that lesson because of the urban myth that she died by choking on a ham sandwich.

[wdlove]

Abraham Lincoln had Marfan Syndrome. Because of my height when they say me at a university they worked me up for this. The diagnosis was ruled out.

http://www.io.com/~cortese/marfan/

[Doctor Q]

Mathematician/economist John Nash (made famous by the book and movie "A Beautiful Mind") brought increased attention to schizophrenia. But he wasn't a "normal" person to start with, in the sense that his brain was already operating on a different plane than the rest of us when he became disabled by mental illness, so people who learned about his life probably didn't see themselves as potentially being in his shoes.

[jxyama]

Originally posted by idkew
i thought he got lou gehrig's deisease- i mean- the chances of getting a diesease named after you... unlucky guy.

while on the topic of baseball... tommy john is now well known for the reconstructive elbow surgery that's very common these days... it's not a "grave" illness like others, but thought to mention...

how about freddy mercury and AIDS? (as opposed to HIV?) a bit of specialized area, but many swimmers are famous for fighting asthma (tom dolan) or diabetes (gary hall jr.).

mario lemieux and hogskin's disease?

[britboy]

Tony Blair just recently had to be taken to hospital, suffering from an irregular heartbeat. He recovered swiftly, but it was all over the news for a couple of days after.

On a more general note, he also seems to suffer from an inherent lying syndrome......;)

[kiwi_the_iwik]

Originally posted by mrjamin
and you believe the man who claims to have only had "one, maybe 2" operations on his face?

He MUST have had only 2 operations on his face -

I'm pretty sure by the way he looks, he did all the OTHER 35 operations himself...

...no self-respecting doctor would make anyone look like that intentionally.

:D

[Phil Of Mac]

Dick Cheney has raised awareness of heart problems.
George W. Bush has raised awareness of the choking hazards of pretzels.

[Doctor Q]

Originally posted by jxyama
how about freddy mercury and AIDS? (as opposed to HIV?)Add Greg Louganis, olympic diver, and Magic Johnson, basketball star, to the list.

Edit to give credit where credit is due: jefhatfield already mentioned Magic Johnson.

[coopdog]

Perfect link to my latest thread.

Christopher Reeve is an asshole:

http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=creeve

[Phil Of Mac]

William Shatner--Tinnitus
Rush Limbaugh--Painkiller addiction

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
William Shatner--Tinnitus
Rush Limbaugh--Painkiller addiction

as much as i can't stand rush and his falsified right wing rhetoric (i am a student of the real right wing thinking of the hoover institute of stanford university and true fiscal conservatism), i was saddened by his problems with his eyes and now i am saddened by his addiction

i would not wish those two physical ailments/diseases on anybody...i hope rush has a full recovery asap

[Giaguara]

awww.. painkiller addiction? is that a disease? i have not 100 % working kidneys (or heart either) so i'd die if i had that. fibromyalgia etc > pain > ... just have to survive. all body in pain > need to think if its worth to risk a kidney failure before ONE painkiller, and the same is valid for a migraine medication (before an attack). yum.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by Giaguara
awww.. painkiller addiction? is that a disease?

Just like alcoholism and any other addiction, yeah.

Speaking of which:

Darryl Strawberry for cocaine addiction.

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by kiwi_the_iwik
He MUST have had only 2 operations on his face -

I'm pretty sure by the way he looks, he did all the OTHER 35 operations himself...

...no self-respecting doctor would make anyone look like that intentionally.

:D

With the kind of money Michael can throw around respect is the type of thing that you talk about over dinner.

[jefhatfield]

john nash and john hinkley for schizophrenia

[MacBandit]

Talking about HIV and AIDS, what about Magic Johnson? He's cured you know. Just shows what a little luck and a lot of money can do for you.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by jefhatfield
john hinkley for schizophrenia

Does shooting the President make you a celebrity now?

Originally posted by MacBandit
Talking about HIV and AIDS, what about Magic Johnson? He's cured you know. Just shows what a little luck and a lot of money can do for you.

No he's not. It's impossible. HIV has never been cured. I would have heard of this. He might be a lot better off, but no way he's cured. You're bull****in' me.

[jefhatfield]

john hinkley shooting the president definitely brought the issue of how dangerous schizophrenia could be without medication and perhaps many people took medicating this disease much more seriously

because one schizophrenic did not take his medication, the free world and balance of power could have been changed in an instant...it's pretty bizzare when one thinks of it that way

most schizophrenics are not violent, but when they do go violent, like hinkley and son or sam, the results can be devastating...i suspect that john mohammed is schizophrenic with very violent tendencies...i also don't believe that is an excuse or pardon for the man, but it would definitely explain things a bit more

my theory based on what i have seen on tv and read is that he possibly, in his own twisted violent way, thought that killing innocent victims and getting on tv would somehow make him win back his ex-wife...hinkley thought that shooting president reagan would shed light on hinkley enough to "impress" actress jodie foster

john hinkley is not a celebrity in my book, though there are some weirdos who probably worship the man the same way they would son of sam or charles manson

[Phil Of Mac]

I think John Muhammed is more interested in engaging in single-handed Islamic terrorism. Or at least he thinks he is. The schizophrenic belief that he'll impress his ex-wife might be the real reason, but he's set up for him the "Islamic terrorism" excuse, to justify the whole thing to himself.

[Doctor Q]

Mary Tyler Moore is chairman of the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation International. She was diagnosed with juvenile (Type 1) diabetes herself, although I think it was in her mid 30s.

[jefhatfield]

i truly believe john mohammed does not think he did anything wrong

whether he is put to death, given life imprisonment, or given life in a mental ward, people like john mohammed should never be allowed to walk the streets ever again

i also think timothy mcveigh believed he did no wrong

truly sick and dangerous people like that could never get rehabilitated...or not at least with the limited knowledge man has of psychology and human nature...scientists know more about deep space and the depths of the ocean than they do about the workings of the human mind...the mind is the last frontier in science

when i hear of things people do and try to relate to them, i can usually picture myself as them to a certain degree...but john mohammed's thinking is so foreign to me, he strikes terror in me when i think of what he did, and did again, and how he glorified in those heinous actions

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by jefhatfield
truly sick and dangerous people like that could never get rehabilitated...or not at least with the limited knowledge man has of psychology and human nature...scientists know more about deep space and the depths of the ocean than they do about the workings of the human mind...the mind is the last frontier in science

If we ever have the ability to cure John Muhammed, we'll also have the ability to "cure" any one of us of our opinions if they ever fall out of favor. That scares me.

[Doctor Q]

What if we could "cure" John Nash and make his brain work like a "normal" person? Would that be a good idea?

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by Doctor Q
What if we could "cure" John Nash and make his brain work like a "normal" person? Would that be a good idea?

That would be taking away his identity, I think. I know of a person with Down's Syndrome whose parents, when asked if they would let their child have plastic surgery to look "normal", didn't want that for the same reason.

[Doctor Q]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
That would be taking away his identity, I think.Agreed. But that doesn't tell us whether it would be good or bad. It's another one of those gray areas where you'd like to think you could save a person from a serious mental illness, but it's unlikely the results could be predictable and you can't assume that such a patient could make a rational decision about the benefits/risks. I'm glad I'm a programmer and not a medical ethicist. With computers, you can always clear the brain with a reboot!

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
................No he's not. It's impossible. HIV has never been cured. I would have heard of this. He might be a lot better off, but no way he's cured. You're bull****in' me.

I'm not. He went in for many treatments and now he tests negative for HIV. I heard it on the news about a year ago.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by MacBandit
I'm not. He went in for many treatments and now he tests negative for HIV. I heard it on the news about a year ago.

I would have heard about this. I'll have to check. AFAIK, HIV is totally incurable. This would have been *big* news.

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
I would have heard about this. I'll have to check. AFAIK, HIV is totally incurable. This would have been *big* news.

I can only repeat the mindless drivel I hear from sources be it yours or major unreputable news services on television and radio.

[Phil Of Mac]

January 21, 2003:

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Earvin "Magic" Johnson is the latest celebrity to enter the arena of pharmaceutical advertising, lending his status as an HIV patient to GlaxoSmithKline's campaign to raise awareness among urban blacks of treatment options for AIDS and the company's drugs.

http://www.journ-aids.org/international_reports/21012003.htm

However (and this may be the source of the confusion), Magic Johnson *is* doing extremely well with his treatment.

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
January 21, 2003:

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Earvin "Magic" Johnson is the latest celebrity to enter the arena of pharmaceutical advertising, lending his status as an HIV patient to GlaxoSmithKline's campaign to raise awareness among urban blacks of treatment options for AIDS and the company's drugs.

http://www.journ-aids.org/international_reports/21012003.htm

However (and this may be the source of the confusion), Magic Johnson *is* doing extremely well with his treatment.

Just another reason to not believe anything I hear or see on tv or radio. I knew there was a reason I refuse to watch or listen to the news.

[kiwi_the_iwik]

I'm fairly convinced that the large pharmaceutical companies - such as Roche, or even the mighty Glaxo Smith Kline - are sitting on a large quantity of cures for dibilitating diseases, such as HIV/AIDS, or many forms of Cancer...

...and they just "filter out" the occasional landmark treatment or medication to prove their worth to the community - and to make more money.

After all - cure the diseases, and you lose your source of income. And THAT is why GSK is one of the most lucritive companies on the face of this earth.

:mad:

[Phil Of Mac]

No, kiwi, it's not the drug companies, it's the Masons and the Illuminati! :rolleyes:

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
No, kiwi, it's not the drug companies, it's the Masons and the Illuminati! :rolleyes:

Chose not to believe it. Why did Dupont have a major hand in making Marijuana illegal? Also why is Dupont the company trying to make synthetic THC?

Hmm, damn conspiracies are usually true when it comes to money.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by MacBandit
Chose not to believe it. Why did Dupont have a major hand in making Marijuana illegal? Also why is Dupont the company trying to make synthetic THC?

Hmm, damn conspiracies are usually true when it comes to money.

There's a difference between corporate/government collusion and massive secret conspiracies.

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
There's a difference between corporate/government collusion and massive secret conspiracies.

And the difference is? They're both done to better themselves and not mankind in general and are done without anyone really knowing.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by MacBandit
And the difference is? They're both done to better themselves and not mankind in general and are done without anyone really knowing.

Yes, but one's easier to pull off than the other, especially in the age of the Internet.

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Yes, but one's easier to pull off than the other, especially in the age of the Internet.

With money anything possible in this world. Secondly the conspiracy of the drug companies doesn't have to be that they have the cure but simply that they don't want to find the cure. It's a crime either way.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by MacBandit
With money anything possible in this world. Secondly the conspiracy of the drug companies doesn't have to be that they have the cure but simply that they don't want to find the cure. It's a crime either way.

I've heard this before and I don't buy it.

Why? There's more than one drug company.

If Pfizer has you on treatment, Bristol-Myers Squibb is already getting nothing. They can cut Pfizer out by curing your illness, and make profit in the meantime.

But, hey. Drug companies are evil. Let's ban them :rolleyes:

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
............But, hey. Drug companies are evil. Let's ban them :rolleyes:

You assume I'm extremist simply because I believe they want to make money more than anything?

I simply think the drug companies need some sort of public regulation. Not government but public.

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by MacBandit
You assume I'm extremist simply because I believe they want to make money more than anything?

I simply think the drug companies need some sort of public regulation. Not government but public.

Hey, I agree with you. I just disagree with the conspiracy nuts.

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Hey, I agree with you. I just disagree with the conspiracy nuts.

What you see as a conspiracy in the lack of drug company interest in developing cures for diseases rather than pills to help the symptoms. I see as a very obvious economically proven fact.

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Hey, I agree with you. I just disagree with the conspiracy nuts.

...that would be the goa:p

[kristianm]

Originally posted by MacBandit
I'm not. He went in for many treatments and now he tests negative for HIV. I heard it on the news about a year ago.

I think it can be made undetectable, but I will come back later in your life, and I think you can give other people the disease.

This is just me remebering things...

[jefhatfield]

protease inhibitors have been able to lower the level of the virus to undetectable levels, but as of now, a person has to continue taking the medication to ultimately stay healthy

when the AIDS crisis first hit, a person with symptoms now classified as full blown AIDS lived just two months and the disease was definitely classifed as a terminal illness

over the last 23 years, the improvements in treatments and vastly improved knowledge of the disease has reduced AIDS, in western countries, to a chronic illness and there are people who can expect to live two decades past the diagnosis of full blown AIDS

full blown AIDS takes time...first, an average of ten years to show any HIV disease symptoms and several years after that to become bad enough to be classified as full blown AIDS

as the drugs increase in their effectiveness, people who get infected can expect to live a full life expectancy but will always be able to infect others with the disease...AIDS will most likely spend years as a manageable chronic illness before it actually gets cured

drugs may marginalize the disease and death rates in the usa may also become close to non existent, but a full on cure may not happen in the next 20 years...in a related way, it is now very unlikely that bubonic plague will overtake america, but as of now, we have not eradicated the disease from the planet

people with high cholesterol can take medication and modify their lifestyle and expect to live a full life...but being one of those who have high cholesterol, i cannot eat the way that some people can and if i do, i will die early...having high cholesterol and bad hdl and ldl ratios is not an instant death sentence, but for some, it can certainly decrease one's quality of life (especially if one is into eating foods like hamburgers and salami)

...and don't think modifying diet to save one's life is "easy"...the same thing goes with AIDS - the drugs have side effects which makes life harder as well as being expensive (like almost all drugs are today)

[Dros]

Originally posted by MacBandit
With money anything possible in this world. Secondly the conspiracy of the drug companies doesn't have to be that they have the cure but simply that they don't want to find the cure. It's a crime either way.

There are some problems with drug companies these days -- they can't be bothered to look to cure diseases that affect a small population, since they won't make money. They don't investigate drugs that they can't control, since they won't make money.

But if it was possible to cure some disease, it would happen. For every company researcher, there are a dozen medical school researchers trying to discover cures for diseases. It would come out.

[Giaguara]

well, i can think of tons of base ball players that are in viagra advertisings. assuming they are not in the ads for ONLY money maybe ... *cough*

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Dros
There are some problems with drug companies these days -- they can't be bothered to look to cure diseases that affect a small population, since they won't make money. They don't investigate drugs that they can't control, since they won't make money.

But if it was possible to cure some disease, it would happen. For every company researcher, there are a dozen medical school researchers trying to discover cures for diseases. It would come out.

While I do agree with your last paragraph I also believe that they have a lack of interest in it. I don't think that they have the cure but I do believe that if anyone has the ability to develop one it would be them. They have nearly unlimited resources and knowledge which cannot be said for the graduate school researchers.

[wdlove]

I also believe that profit it first and foremost for drug companies. The fact that drugs work is secondary. Advertising on TV is wrong. It helps them two ways a tax deduction and more customers. Drugs should be initiated by a doctor, when a patient presents with symptoms that require that require medication. Govenment involvement would only exacerbate the situation by increasing prices. Public pressure is the only answer. The current move to import drugs from Canada might be a beginning.

Sadly they need people to be ill to make a profit.

[Doctor Q]

Doctors often say "I just happen to have a free sample of this medicine" to patients. When I see this, I always wonder whether the doctor picked that medicine over a possibly better choice just because the drug company sent the sample, or because it saves the patient money for a prescription.

[Counterfit]

Originally posted by wdlove
Advertising on TV is wrong. It helps them two ways a tax deduction and more customers. Drugs should be initiated by a doctor, when a patient presents with symptoms that require that require medication. The only counterpoint I can think of is that someone might be sitting at home with those very symptoms and not knowing that they can be treated. Of course, I'm sure it's rare with asthma, arthritis, and allergies. It should be up to the doctor, not the patient, to decide what's the best medicine for the umm, thingie (I forgot the word because it's 5AM AND I'M STILL UP!!)

[Doctor Q]

Ronald Reagan: Alzheimer’s

Annette Funicello: multiple sclerosis

Richard Pryor: the danger of free-basing cocaine

[jxyama]

sorry, this thread's been inactive for a while, but lance armstrong and testicular cancer...

[Counterfit]

Inactive for a while? It was only 28 hours...

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by Counterfit
Inactive for a while? It was only 28 hours...

three years ago, with only a couple hundred members, 28 hours would have been considered current

but now with 20,000+ members, threads get started so fast that a day can bury a thread so deep down the list of current threads

[Counterfit]

I think 28 hours is still current no matter how many members. But back to the topic: ummm, anyone else?

[jefhatfield]

george forman and prostate cancer
geoge michael and lewd conductitis in public restrooms:p

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by jefhatfield
george forman and prostate cancer
geoge michael and lewd conductitis in public restrooms:p

I'll take that bet and up it one.

Paul Rueubens, aka, "Pee Wee Herman" for educating the youth of America about waking off in a porno theater. Which in my youth of the time I had no idea about until I heard about what happened to him. I guess the thanks should really go to the mass media.

http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/pee-wee-herman.html

[Doctor Q]

Don't tell, but I loved Pee-Wee's Playhouse and was sorry to see it end. Who else would name a chair "Chairy" or have such interesting friends? When he opened his front door, it was like the "weird party guests" game on Whose Line is it Anyway?

And Pee-Wee's pal Cowboy Curtis (http://www.x-entertainment.com/pics3/pee16.jpg) was played by none other than Lawrence Fishburne of The Matrix fame.

Pee-Wee's sorta triumphant return to public life on the 1991 MTV Music Awards show got him a great cheer, so there's evidence that many people didn't consider his crime much of a crime. If it qualifies as a disease, I don't think it is one most insurance plans cover.

[Phil Of Mac]

I thought there was some legal precedent that said that jerking off in an adult theatre was acceptable because people in an adult theatre, by mere virtue of being there, are not going to be unduly disturbed by seeing sexual activity.

[mactastic]

I can't believe no one has mentioned all the attention Pamela Anderson has brought to Hepatitis C!:D

Nancy Reagan had a mastectomy as well IIRC.

[Phil Of Mac]

George W. Bush, dyslexia.

*ducks and dons a flame-retardant suit*

[Counterfit]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
George W. Bush, dyslexia.

*ducks and dons a flame-retardant suit* Now who would flame you for that?

[Phil Of Mac]

I forgot, I'm the only person on MacRumors who isn't a registered member of the Communist Party ;)

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Doctor Q
Don't tell, but I loved Pee-Wee's Playhouse and was sorry to see it end. Who else would name a chair "Chairy" or have such interesting friends? When he opened his front door, it was like the "weird party guests" game on Whose Line is it Anyway?

And Pee-Wee's pal Cowboy Curtis (http://www.x-entertainment.com/pics3/pee16.jpg) was played by none other than Lawrence Fishburne of The Matrix fame.

Pee-Wee's sorta triumphant return to public life on the 1991 MTV Music Awards show got him a great cheer, so there's evidence that many people didn't consider his crime much of a crime. If it qualifies as a disease, I don't think it is one most insurance plans cover.

I agree about Pee Wee I love the show though it did have a lot of adult undertones to it. Also it wasn't Pee Wee that caused the problems it was the news media blowing it out of proportion.

[MacBandit]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
I forgot, I'm the only person on MacRumors who isn't a registered member of the Communist Party ;)

You're previous quote barely tickles the needle on the flame bait gauge but this comment definitely requires a Nomex suit.