New Are Ideas Stifled by Politics.. Why?

[Sorcerery]

This letter is for Apple Execs


I just couldn't find a way into Apple corporate.. nor a path through the politics and policies... I can't afford to solicit this with a lawyer, so you gets it in your lap...


I just thought up a brand new super function button suitable for mouse and keyboard, highly in demand, highly marketable, highly politically correct, and more... Never before thought of, or it would be on the market everywhere, as part of every new computer...

Deal is: I'll trade this data for a brand new top of line Apple computer, loaded...

Apple has 24 hours from 10:AM this Monday to respond, or I takes it elsewhere...

[RedTomato]

Ideas are cheap. Making it work isn't. So don't expect to get anything.

highly politically correct,

What is a highly politically correct button? Does it refuse to click on porn images?

[robbieduncan]

Apple have an official policy regarding unsolicited ideas: basically they don't want them. If you do send them they become property of Apple and you get nothing in return.

If this idea is so great patent it and license it out.

[RedTomato]

Money doesn't go to people who have ideas. It goes to people who have ideas and make them work in the real world. That's extremely rare and extremely valuable.

Take art for example. The rich artists are not the most skilled. They're the ones who have the best social skills, can organise themselves to show in exhibitions, sort out their personal lives enough that they can get on with creating, keep their friendships alive, deal with the paperwork of daily life, and develop the skills needed to find and keep a support team around them happy and functioning.

The same goes for successful innovators in any field.

[mags631]

I just thought up a brand new super function button suitable for mouse and keyboard, highly in demand, highly marketable, highly politically correct, and more... Never before thought of, or it would be on the market everywhere, as part of every new computer...


Please explain how something could be "never before thought of" and "highly in demand".

[heatmiser]

...highly politically correct...

I don't think this phrase means what you think it means...

[RedTomato]

It doesn't mind being clicked on by gays, lesbians, republicians, communists, liberals, blacks, hispanics, disabled, bisexuals, governators, baseball players, supreme court judges, benefit queens, immigrants, transexuals, smokers, rednecks, lawyers, gamers, moderators, tramps, bindlestiffs, and worse of all, macrumour readers?

[SDDave2007]

Wow... I can see Steve Jobs clamoring around trying to get a BTO 8-Core MacPro with a 30" ACD boxed up for this clown before the deadline.....

Thats why there is a Patent Office... or go to Inventors.Com and let them do it for you. There are no politics stifling new ideas....

[jemeinc]

you know, if this thread somehow finds a way to keep going this has potential to be one of the finest threads in MR history.. I mean, think about it, the skies the limit as far as far as I can tell.. And the best part? It will all be "politically correct"- what more can you ask for? I'm going to go get my popcorn ready and just sit back and watch this baby unfold..

OP- don't disappoint, now- come strong!!! State your case- your obviously a visionary, and visionaries are often misunderstood..Hang tough, we believe in you..
;-)

[blueflame]

what do you think he thinks it means?


did I mention... Who's on first?
I don't think this phrase means what you think it means...

[KingYaba]

How can something that has "never been thought of" be "highly demanded?" :confused::confused::confused:

[rdowns]

Apple has 24 hours from 10:AM this Monday to respond, or I takes it elsewhere...

Is that Pacific Daylight Time?

Wow... I can see Steve Jobs clamoring around trying to get a BTO 8-Core MacPro with a 30" ACD boxed up for this clown before the deadline.....


You think Steve works on Sunday? :rolleyes:

[Sesshi]

If it's a truly marketable idea then you wouldn't be asking for a free computer. It firmly establishes you as small time and not worth dealing with.

[Sorcerery]

Quote: "Ideas are cheap. Making it work isn't. So don't expect to get anything."

I hear yah... I get about three new inventions daily.. so many that I've stopped documenting them... What's the use when you can't afford even one patent search..?


Quote: "Apple have an official policy regarding unsolicited ideas: basically they don't want them. If you do send them they become property of Apple and you get nothing in return."

Same with Microsoft... But in this case they are losing something Big...


Quote: "Money doesn't go to people who have ideas. It goes to people who have ideas and make them work in the real world. That's extremely rare and extremely valuable."

That's for sure, boss dude... I've had the bench manual for a liquid electricity emitter, since 1978.. and zero funding... I tried to build the thing on a basement work bench... The third try, pops snooped on my bench.. he had been warned not to.. he shone a penlight into the barrel of the engine's core, and his eye got slammed by a blast of liquidish gold colored "plazma" light, which burned two holes clean through the back of his eye... He was a little pissed after he got out of the hospital... I had to shelf the thing, till a safe lab happens in my life... It's been shelved for 24 years now... Engines for flying cars in in the closet, because "Money doesn't go to people who have ideas. It goes to people who have ideas and make them work in the real world." Trouble with that, is your so called "real world" is based on fantasies, which have no bases... You "real world" is a "synthetic reality", base on dogmatic speculation, and extreme systems invasive conditioning...


Quoting: "Thats why there is a Patent Office... or go to Inventors.Com and let them do it for you. There are no politics stifling new ideas...."

Patents cost what I don't have...
I tried an inventors help organization once... They informed me that the idea I sent them was highly marketable, and that I needed to send them $400 to do the patent search, and $1200 to patent it for me, and they had buyers who would pay me 2 to 5% of the actual sales... A year later they patented the item, and I saw it in stores, everywhere... Thht on those inventor help lines!.. They're just legalized thieves...
There are politics stifling newness, to maintain oil consumption, for one... The feds are squeezing the masses for every penny they can... so is everyone else... A little leakage should be permitted... Pirates gotta eat too... "Legalized leakage" is the essence of the "brotherhood of man"... Five years ago, all the "brotherhood of man" was, was a web page title, forsake on the Internet, till I bitched about it a lot... Now the "brotherhood of man" is just a pile of electronic data and web businesses, and a musician group.. "oh yay"...


Quote: "You know, if this thread somehow finds a way to keep going this has potential to be one of the finest threads in MR history.. I mean, think about it, the skies the limit as far as far as I can tell.. And the best part? It will all be "politically correct"- what more can you ask for? I'm going to go get my popcorn ready and just sit back and watch this baby unfold.."

You are the most intelligent person I've had the pleasure of reading... What is your web page?... PM me with it...
I'll stay in this thread till the flamers start pissing in my face, and trying to bite chunks out of me... Usually it be the Christians blaming me for their R-conditioning migraines... They have an inherent need to silence all new... Their religions fear new and change means there won't be a place for them in the future, so religion gave its enemies, Science and Art, a home, to keep its enemies close, and controlled... Religion has essentialy put the brakes on evolution for that purpose... Religion owns people...


Quote: "OP- don't disappoint, now- come strong!!! State your case- your obviously a visionary, and visionaries are often misunderstood..Hang tough, we believe in you.."

I hope that is not a slap... Usually those things come with a secret dose of "crush, kill, and destroy"... know what I mean?.. maybe I've become just a little "gun shy"..? Against better judgment, I'll take it at face value for now...


Quote: "...highly politically correct...
I don't think this phrase means what you think it means..."

You got that Right!.. You Sir are a Genius!..


Quote: "How can something that has "never been thought of" be "highly demanded?"

That's the secret... If I were to answer that, you would have it... Don't pump anymore!


Quote: "If it's a truly marketable idea then you wouldn't be asking for a free computer. It firmly establishes you as small time and not worth dealing with."

I am a very small time, I couldn't be any smaller, but I am the little one with a glimpse of all our species remaining untapped sciences...
I saw 14 new sciences, each with it 100+ technologies... I am able to grasp only the first 300... 1 of 300 is the liquid electricity emitter... With it I could crack the bonds of the inert elements, to the tune of approx. 70 new active acid and base compounds, to mix with the 10's of million compounds we already have... I see a potential of 200-million new immediately useful chemical compounds in that... but I'm so very small in your big money world... I have no money, I never had any money, just a mind which has no ceiling... I've taken it as far as I can without funding... Now it's humanity's turn to get involved, if they want any new... Too bad I'm being forced to take it all to the grave by those who fear new and change more than they fear death itself... If I lose, you all lose... If I don't get a lab soon, the only flying cars you'll ever be piloting, in your short lifetimes, are the ones in your dreams and in your acid trips, and the ones you play with in your video game interactive cartoons...

I attempted to detail the workings of the engine to a renowned European nuclear physicist, at a doctor's garden party, near Toronto Canada... 60-seconds into the description, his face turned pale, he struggled to speak, accused me of "speaking in the forth dimension", struggled to stand, struggled to walk three paces, and fell flat on his face...

Petroleum is worth $10-grand a barrel.. but we burn at a hundred bucks a can...
I see how petroleum can be reworked to create bio-plastics, to grow synthetic replacement organs, to boost life-expectancy up a few hundred years, and build bio-plastic pets and androids, and PC's which are worn on the fore-arm as a skin-graft, fed by inerts added to the blood... mouse and keyboard are obsolete... Mouse works by 5% beta activities... Keyboard works by 3 to 7% alpha activities... Thing is, a person needs a switched-On mind to run these PC's...
Trouble with that, is that humanity is devolving rapidly... Cell phones are baking brains, Alcohol is dessicating brains, Unknowns in vaccines are severing brain connections, poor diet is devolving brains, meth and coke are melting brains, TV provides everyone's daily opinions and fears... Very few humes have a single new thought, on their own, in their whole lifetimes... You all just ain't ready for me... Seems like you never will... Seems I'm too late.. and you are too far gone...
Soon you'll be seeing on CNN and Discovery, babies are being born with prehensile tail buds... And one day mankind will be swinging in the trees with their furry tails...

I discovered a little technique in the science of "time travel", and watched, near the year 145,730, the last human cracking the marrow out of the bones of the second last...

[RedTomato]

Wow Just wow. You are obviously a truly amazing man, and you can quote me on that.

I tried an inventors help organization once... They informed me that the idea I sent them was highly marketable, and that I needed to send them $400 to do the patent search, and $1200 to patent it for me, and they had buyers who would pay me 2 to 5% of the actual sales... A year later they patented the item, and I saw it in stores, everywhere...

What item was this? I'm sure some of us have seen it. I'm sure you can safely describe it as it was openly sold everywhere in the stores.

I attempted to detail the workings of the engine to a renowned European nuclear physicist, at a doctor's garden party, near Toronto Canada... 60-seconds into the description, his face turned pale, he struggled to speak, accused me of "speaking in the forth dimension", struggled to stand, struggled to walk three paces, and fell flat on his face..

Do you think you could tell us what you said to him? Just the first 60 seconds please? I understand if you're concerned our brains will explode, but we're MacRumours, we're made of strong stuff, and can handle it.

xRedTomato

[Sorcerery]

Tomato.. Nice start, but that's you pumping again... It is extremely irritating and insulting... Please refrain from pumping for data you are not privy to...


I can tell you, If I don't build this thing myself, in my safe-lab, in the fresh granite mountains west of Calgary, it doesn't get built in my lifetime, nor in yours... As for releasing anymore data, have you ever heard the phrase "..when hell freezes over"..?

[Sorcerery]

This engine has a little design problem... It creates antimatter-acids in reactions in its exhaust... It needs a magnetic bottle to hold the acids in.. which means it requires a magnetic spray... It requires something to grab its exhaust, and bottle it, which in the biological world, would be like you taking a dump, then having to push it back in before letting it out after letting it out...

(Caution.. If you are religious conditioned, the above statement will most likely cause you a very wicked migraine... If it does, simply start preaching some easy dogma, aloud... The conditioning will trigger endomorphines into synthetically restricted cerebral nerve plumbing, which will neutralize your headache almost immediately... Should your heart commence erratic periods and slight stinging, I strongly suggest you immediately cut power to your thought processes, and go douse your face with cold water)

I'm trying to look at this magnetic bottle in an inverse paradox format...
Do you happen to know any inverse paradox substructures..?

[Luis]

This engine has a little design problem... It creates antimatter-acids in reactions in its exhaust... It needs a magnetic bottle to hold the acids in.. which means it requires a magnetic spray... It requires something to grab its exhaust, and bottle it, which in the biological world, would be like you taking a dump, then having to push it back in before you let it out after you let it out...
I'm trying to look at in an inverse paradox format... Do you happen to know any inverse paradox substructures..?

:rolleyes: Soooo is this politically correct?

[Luis]

I discovered a little technique in the science of "time travel", and watched, near the year 145,730, the last human cracking the marrow out of the bones of the second last...

Please tell me this is sarcasm. Just please.

[Sorcerery]

Please tell me this is sarcasm. Just please.

Real as it gets hun...

:rolleyes: Soooo is this politically correct?

Would you please define "politically correct"...

[benzslrpee]

apparently you've also posted your ideas elsewhere...

[Rodimus Prime]

Tomato.. Nice start, but that's you pumping again... It is extremely irritating and insulting... Please refrain from pumping for data you are not privy to...


I can tell you, If I don't build this thing myself, in my safe-lab, in the fresh granite mountains west of Calgary, it doesn't get built in my lifetime, nor in yours... As for releasing anymore data, have you ever heard the phrase "..when hell freezes over"..?

I am on Tomato's side. I want to know what this item is that you says was stolen and on store shelves every where. To me unless you can produce that then to me a lot of the stuff you have written is a load of BS.

[zap2]

Pfff..bookmarking this thread!

[RedTomato]

I am on Tomato's side. I want to know what this item is that you says was stolen and on store shelves every where. To me unless you can produce that then to me a lot of the stuff you have written is a load of BS.

Yes I agree. That was why I asked. I'm not pumping for info. I only want to know that same material that you have already disclosed to others.

OK you don't want to say what you told the nuclear physicist. Fine. Keep that to yourself.

I'm asking you what's the device you invented, that is now available in stores everywhere? Anybody can buy one and look at it, so why keep your involvement with it a secret?

Cheers

RedTomato

[LiveForever]

http://www.google.com/patents

http://www.delphion.com/

[Sorcerery]

It was a mechanic's four in one tool, before there were any multi-tools... I can't recall what they called it, so I couldn't find it in those patent searches... I got ripped-off, so I'd like to just forget it... A year later they patented it, and marketed it, without me in the picture... They just don't understand, that now they (raymond lee organization) don't get anymore good ideas from me, after robbing me so fast on the first one, a little one, which told me that they can't be trusted... I get 1 to 3 new inventions daily that they don't get now... I'll call that one just a test of the evil system, and leave it at that..:D

Right now, the topic is, "I needs a lab to build a new engine for your new cars"... Way too much for you to grasp... Anyway, now you know why you aren't driving your consumer flying cars today, not doing any free continent hoping, and not circling continents at 1200 m's per h, on the scenic routes... If I had one FC today, I'd be following the South American shoreline, 100-feet up, and once in a while I'd buzz big cats on shores, and monkey-troops in jungle forest canopy, and maybe hover over them, and toss them bananas and fat ripe strawberries, and cubes of bred dipped in butter and salt/sugar mixture, and coffee creamers...
With my friendly ways with critters, maybe I could get the monkeys eating out of my hand, and singing me their sweetest tunes..?

I don't get a lab means you don't get these new toys... You go try to figure out these new technologies, and try to forget the little tool "R. Lee O." robbed from me... I'm trying to forget that sting...

Me thinks I blew-it in the inventor and business money-world, mostly because a serious lack of edjamacation, duhhh, but if I lose, you lose... I still have a mind crammed-full of untapped sciences... I hold enough data to delete the content of the world's universities, and fill them up with modern curriculum...

[notjustjay]

Why isn't this in Wasteland yet? :rolleyes:

As for the question: are ideas stifled by politics? Of course they are. Just imagine what we as a human race would be capable of. What technologies would exist today if it weren't for the competitor with more money that paid to shut down development? (I'm looking at YOU, Gates). We might be colonizing Mars. We might have way better drug treatments. According to lore, we'd be driving cars with near unlimited gas mileage, flying cars even!

And Canadians would have the Avro Arrow.

[WinterMute]

Why isn't this in Wasteland yet? :rolleyes:

As for the question: are ideas stifled by politics? Of course they are. Just imagine what we as a human race would be capable of. What technologies would exist today if it weren't for the competitor with more money that paid to shut down development? (I'm looking at YOU, Gates). We might be colonizing Mars. We might have way better drug treatments. According to lore, we'd be driving cars with near unlimited gas mileage, flying cars even!

And Canadians would have the Avro Arrow.

It's gone.

The OP may be the next Howard Hughes for all I know, but the style is opaque.