MTV Music Store

[MacRumors]

A Reuters article (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=266163) reports that MTV Networks will be launching a music download service "within the first half of next year".

Apparently, MTV had planned on a streaming/download service in 2000, but due to the rapid decline in the dot-com boom, shelved its plans.

At least one analyst is critical of MTV's delayed entry into this arena: "After iTunes launched in April, MTV should have been like a hawk on a field mouse."

[TyleRomeo]

Bring it MTV. Hey does anyone know how the ITMS is doing lately?

I haven't heard any figures on it. Does Billboard or some other site post their sales?

Tyler

[Mudbug]

I have to admit I wondered why they hadn't put their hat in the ring yet. But I figured it was because after watching the channel for a while, I realized that they gave up on MUSIC a long time ago.

[tazznb]

The ones that happen to be twice as dumb as the RIAA:mad:

[Bunzi2k4]

...not another one... o well i'm sure mtv will make a good ammount of money, i mean... who doesn't know what mtv is at least? i've met some people that have never herd of apple computer. ipod, but not apple. well if mtv can make it something better than the itunes music store, then this will be an interesting tech war.

[Dippo]

What does MTV have to do with music? :)

I can't remember the last time I actually saw a music video on MTV, maybe they should do themselves a favor and NOT launch a music service.

[avus]

Originally posted by Mudbug
I have to admit I wondered why they hadn't put their hat in the ring yet. But I figured it was because after watching the channel for a while, I realized that they gave up on MUSIC a long time ago.

I am sorry you had to see it to believe it.

[JohnGillilan]

What's the big deal? Viacom will probably own most of the download services within a few months anyways :D

[ITR 81]

MTV needs to just go away because by the time they open up about 4-5 music stores will be open and they will just be another dot com not making money.

It's almost like everyone is trying to jump on this since Apple opened the doors to this new niche market.

Also I never even watch MTV anymore or MTV2..because most of it's not even music anymore. I just watch Fuse formely MuchMusic if I want to watch music vids.

[jamesatzones]

Competition is good, let MTV try the game I say. Apple is bringing in the business and will continue to as long as they grow with the market. Once February hits with the 100 million song givaway I think Apple will secure 99.9% of the legal music trade.

[alset]

Though I'm a little irritated that so many weak companies are entering the market with (IMO) no chance of bringing innovation, I suppose this will push Apple to develop iTMS more than ever.

Dan

[edenwaith]

...and next week, Lil Suzie down the street will open up her own on-line music store.

How many more companies are going to try and flood the market? I'm just glad to see that iTunes has been making some pretty good waves in the media. The only thing worthwhile to have read in Rolling Stones in the past several months was any news about iTunes...the rest has been pure crap, though (which is why I'm canceling my subscription). RS is now just an extension of MTV. Whatever garbage MTV spews out, RS regurgitates, and I've come to realize that MTV barely does anything with music anymore, and on the rare occasion that they do, it tends to be just more junk which I have no interest for.

[Phil Of Mac]

The MTV Music Store will soon be offering not only music, but annoying video clips of people screaming "OH MY GOD I LOVE 50 CENT!!!!!!!!!!" along with his music. Eventually, it will all be replaced by crappy non-music content.

[theipodgod16]

Originally posted by edenwaith
...and next week, Lil Suzie down the street will open up her own on-line music store.

How many more companies are going to try and flood the market? I'm just glad to see that iTunes has been making some pretty good waves in the media. The only thing worthwhile to have read in Rolling Stones in the past several months was any news about iTunes...the rest has been pure crap, though (which is why I'm canceling my subscription). RS is now just an extension of MTV. Whatever garbage MTV spews out, RS regurgitates, and I've come to realize that MTV barely does anything with music anymore, and on the rare occasion that they do, it tends to be just more junk which I have no interest for.




i completly agree...i cancelled my subscription too. it had just turned into a tabloid with like 3000 pages of celebrity gossip. And if i wanted an album review (rarely), i can always get it online for free

[solvs]

And every time someone mentions it, they'll also mention iTunes. How it has some interesting features, postives, negatives... and in the end is just a pale ripoff of iTunes. Plus, will it work with the iPod, the ultimate in cool? Probably not.

Doomed to failure? Probably.

Wonder how BuyMusic is doing lately?

[Choppaface]

thats ok because mtv sucks :D

[tazznb]

Originally posted by solvs
And every time someone mentions it, they'll also mention iTunes. How it has some interesting features, postives, negatives... and in the end is just a pale ripoff of iTunes. Plus, will it work with the iPod, the ultimate in cool? Probably not.

Doomed to failure? Probably.

Wonder how BuyMusic is doing lately?

ALL of them come out with the same exact setup as Apple, and call it innovation.

Example: All the wannabeez will sport a DOWNLOAD service, and a PLAYER that connects/syncs to it.

It's just gonna be a bunch of lemonade stands within a year (full of brain-dead zombies craving fame, and get rich quick).

I bet if Apple decided to leave the market the rest would have virtually the same setup 20yrs down the line.


**If you're not bringing fresh food to the kitchen DO NOT COOK!***

[Sabenth]

not going to all starwars on ya. Crap crap crap crap .... MTV CMTV ITV BBC CHANEL 4 CHANEL TEN A FEW OF THE SO Call entertament chanels that will be releasing Laptops music stores food factories and god knows what else . i still havent got the iTunes store here in Australia let alone the rest of th WORLD!!! DAM LAWS!!! It just shows how invitive apple is how stylish apple is and how easy it is to copy a great idea .

[Jerry Spoon]

Talk about the ultimate advertising machine though. They can advertise at cost anytime during their network lineup. MTV may suck, but I still watch Punked and a couple other shows on their even if I don't watch MTV for music. The people watching that station are the exact people just about everyone is looking towards when they thing, "who will buy music online."

Anyone know if Apple has been running commercials for iPod/ITMS on MTV? I don't watch enough to know.

[Dont Hurt Me]

MTV ?i thought that channel went from music to following around young adolescent kids dreaming of sex and alcohol?

[BwanaZulia]

MTV should partner with Apple. MTV has neither the technical skill nor the channels (besides free advertising, and it is not free cause they give up real paying ad time) to do this right.

Ideas for MTV partnership with iTMS:
- A whole MTV area
- MTV videos, interviews on artist pages
- VJ pick lists
- Daily TRL lists and artists
- MTV branded iPod
- MTV2 requested list

And when Apple gets into the Video iPod and video on demand, there is MTV with lots of episodes of Real World to download to my iPod

BZ

[orb]

Originally posted by BwanaZulia
And when Apple gets into the Video iPod and video on demand, there is MTV with lots of episodes of Real World to download to my iPod


Why did you have to go and say that? As soon as I heard this, I smashed my ipod to pieces in a fit of rage. I only now realized that my ipod can't actually torture me with episodes of the Real World and thus I've destroyed a perfectly fine ipod.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[1macker1]

Video on demand would be nice from mtv. its would be cool to be able to watch the top 10 videos whenever you want.

I think apple needs to do more with it's music video section in iTunes. It's not orginized.

[Photorun]

Man, and people were jumping on iTunes music store for having too few songs, what will MTV have? First off, only what they want you to hear, after all, the music industry isn't about music anymore, it's about marketing and packaging. That'll leave, what, 100 songs tops? Chritina Skankulara, Britney Skanks, a bunch of p***ed off middle class white boys trying to rap over over distorted guitars about their "angst" of being... uh, spoiled soccer mom kids. And some latest cRap music that glorifies to urban kids all you need is money, money and hos.

In other words, the MTV store is going to suck and champion mediocrity to a whole new level. Sure they'll market to prepubescent clueless types, but that's not all the market thankfully.

[Kid Red]

Why is a cable channel that doesn't play any music even messing with a music download site? Shouldn't they be filming a new dumb movie aimed towards idiotic teens? Or taping new episodes of that award winning, thought provoking, intellectually stimulating show Jackass?

I think I hate MTV more then I hate M$, at least M$ outwardly broadcasts it's evil ways, MTV masks them behind music videos which they don't even play!!? They had to add another station (MTV2) just to play MUSIC VIDEOS!!!

I'm sorry, but the minute they censored slang from rap videos and blurred every label from every shirt, shoe, jeans, hat, etc yet left in cuss words in rock songs I lost my taste and respect for MTV. I hope they die a slow painful death!

Here's to MUCH MUSIC USA!! err, oh wait, now it's FUSE!!

[Bunzi2k4]

Originally posted by Kid Red
Why is a cable channel that doesn't play any music even messing with a music download site? Shouldn't they be filming a new dumb movie aimed towards idiotic teens? Or taping new episodes of that award winning, thought provoking, intellectually stimulating show Jackass?

I think I hate MTV more then I hate M$, at least M$ outwardly broadcasts it's evil ways, MTV masks them behind music videos which they don't even play!!? They had to add another station (MTV2) just to play MUSIC VIDEOS!!!

I'm sorry, but the minute they censored slang from rap videos and blurred every label from every shirt, shoe, jeans, hat, etc yet left in cuss words in rock songs I lost my taste and respect for MTV. I hope they die a slow painful death!

Here's to MUCH MUSIC USA!! err, oh wait, now it's FUSE!!

...woah... ur a real mtv hater... i don't hate mtv, but they only have reality tv shows now... and they're getting boring. the only good show on mtv is punk'd, but they're showing reruns right now (although season 2 just came out)...

[mactastic]

I thought MTV stood for Music TeleVision... they got the TV down, now bring back the music. No wait, don't. 90% of what MTV plays is crap, and it's all repeated so often you get sick of it. Look, our number one video, we've played it 6 times already today, and here it is again!

[1macker1]

MTV, Vh1, and MTV2 can be quite good for music lovers.

**mtv2 plays nothing by music**

[wPod]

isnt it about iTMS and thus Apple making money? MTV will ultimatly fail if they attempt this alone by being clone number 6 or so of iTMS. if MTV worked with iTMS then MTV could have its own page of 100 songs, bring in tons of money and thus expand iTMS for the rest of us. And once the MTV teens grow out of their pop-100 list, they will join us enjoying the rest of iTMS expanse. So i say MTV wont make it, unless they follow Pepsi and partner with the market dominating iTMS.

[mrsebastian]

mtv could actually be the biggest rival for itms. they have a huge audience and as long as mom and dad are willing to hand over their credit card, mtv could make some money.

what i find rather funny though is that mtv was supposedly working on this several years ago. i'm no business analyst, i just play one on the internet, but my instinct says that with apple moving to a younger audience with itms and everything, they probably tried to work with mtv some time ago. mtv in turn looked at their business proposal to incorporate apple technology on their site for music dl and decided that they could do it on their own. mtv's strategy may be a little different though, as they are more set up for being the producer, marketer, and the distributor, while apple acts primarily as distributor or store front. hmmm, mtv may be onto something here.

[mrsebastian]

here's a side note for everyone, in the usa today's life section is an interesting article today. it states that since the end of june, there have been 7.7 million songs downloaded, compared with 4 million cd singles sold. furthermore the week ending oct. 26, 857,000 digital songs vs. 170,000 physical cd singles sold. it doesn't state wether the digital songs are both from single song purchases or complete albums, but a staggering number none the less and it's easy to see why mtv wants to get on the wagon.

[MacFan26]

Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
MTV ?i thought that channel went from music to following around young adolescent kids dreaming of sex and alcohol?

Yeah, usually the only music they play are videos at 3 in the morning, otherwise it's all these "teen reality" nonsense. My roommate watches them all the time. There's a show called One Bad Trip, and last time it was these two girls dads who secretly went with them on a trip where they witnessed them half naked and making out. What is with that?

[Silencio]

I haven't spent much time watching MTV since my college days ended in the early 90's, but it's always a shock when I turn it on anymore.

They used to present themselves as at least somewhat outsider or edgy or whatever; now they're just glorifying the bloated mainstream with the clichéd jockisms of Fraternity Life and teen idol worship of TRL.

And no, I AM NOT GETTING OLD! I'm probably more rebellious today than 95% of the teenagers/20somethings out there now.

As much as I used to mock Kurt Loder and Tabitha Soren, I guess I miss them a little now. They actually had brains in their heads and would not fit in with the current programming.

Dead Kennedys said it best so long ago:

"MTV GET OFF THE AIR!"

[sethypoo]

Well, I like MTV, even though there aren't enough music videos on it anymore. I've watched it since I was little, and it will always be cool. Who knows, if they make a music store for the Mac I just might try it.

I want my MTV.

[meeble]

Originally posted by sethypoo
Well, I like MTV, even though there aren't enough music videos on it anymore. I've watched it since I was little, and it will always be cool. Who knows, if they make a music store for the Mac I just might try it.

feh!

[Photorun]

I double that "feh!"

[1macker1]

I like watching some of those mtv shows to. I'll give it a try if it works with mac. And if you dont like the shows, just tune to MTV2, for 24 hours of music videos.
Originally posted by sethypoo
Well, I like MTV, even though there aren't enough music videos on it anymore. I've watched it since I was little, and it will always be cool. Who knows, if they make a music store for the Mac I just might try it.

I want my MTV.

[macFanDave]

Originally posted by Dippo
What does MTV have to do with music? :)

I was going to write the exact same thing! Good for you!

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by 1macker1
I like watching some of those mtv shows to. I'll give it a try if it works with mac. And if you dont like the shows, just tune to MTV2, for 24 hours of music videos.

Nah, the unrelated programming is starting to creep onto MTV2 as well.

Okay, for those of us keeping score at home:

eMusic, Rhapsody, Pressplay (pre-iTMS)
iTMS
BuyMusic, Napster (out now)
MTV, Dell, Microsoft (future)
AOL (partnered with Apple)

Am I missing any?

[Macheath_Messer]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Nah, the unrelated programming is starting to creep onto MTV2 as well.

Boy, ain't that the truth! :D

What I would love to see from an MTV online music store is the ability for a person to purchase and download music videos for playback on a computer, or perhaps to burn to DVD.

Maybe MTV could even allow a person to pick and choose a certain number of videos (maybe 10 or 20) and they could burn a custom DVD for you.

I'm sure the above suggestions would be a logistical nightmare, but hey, I can dream, can't I?

I would love to be able to choose videos from the _entire_ video music library that MTV has!

FWIW! ;)

BTW, this is my first post to this fine forum! :D

Have a good day, all!

[Psychic Shopper]

It is a huge conflict of interest for MTV to sell music. Will they only sell the music they play? That's like CNN only reporting about the stocks they have a vested interest in

[Dippo]

Who owns MTV?

I need to sure that I DON'T OWN any of their stock before they sink what little is left of the company.

[coolbreeze]

Ugh. This weeks online music store is.....MTV!!

Stay tuned next week, when Wal-Mart announces it's online music store.

K-Mart the week after that.

Then, McDonalds will launch it's online music store.

Burger King expected to follow after that.

Subway to follow (yes, Jared will be the spokesman).

Then Compaq. Then comes the Toshiba music store.

Get my point? My eyes just roll when I hear these announcements. Sure, competition is good, but c'mon. The market is over-saturated now. Apple will ALWAYS be copied, no matter what. More importantly, Apple will always be the leader because their product is truly the best. How can you disagree?

[avus]

This will be all irrelevant when M$ enters the fray next year, and they will soon claim that they "invented" the legitimate music downloading service:rolleyes:

[Sabenth]

another week another 4 services due for launching

Apple i would think will have made allowances for this i mean they cant have just thought oh we will give them gift vouches that will keep the enemey at bay

I still think that they should allow all credit card users around the world to acess the iTunes store as all this profit gose straight to the USA


as for the idea of 2 gig or less iPods well they would be great but then you want more space and well i guess thats were you buy 20 gig iPods or more..