Bluetooth 1.4.1 for Mac OS X [Archive]

mustang_dvs

Nov 17, 2003, 04:44 PM

1.4.1 is available for OS 10.3.1

1.3.3 is available for OS 10.2.8

Bluetooth 1.3.3 for Mac OS X provides enhanced stability for Bluetooth connections. This release also improves performance with human interface devices (HID) including enhancements to wake from sleep.

johnnyjibbs

Nov 17, 2003, 05:16 PM

Yep, I got the alert for Bluetooth 1.3.3. Tsk.

I didn't intall it because there wasn't a tick by it. I guessed my PowerBook already had it, but now I think about it that's just silly. Guess I should install it now.

Starting to want Panther now... I wish they'd hurry up with delivering my Up-to-date application...

beelesbob

Nov 17, 2003, 05:59 PM

If you're still running 10.2.8 then I highly recommend downloading Bluetooth 1.3.3. There is a major security hole in previous versions with an exploit as follows:

[list=1]
Plug in a bluetooth dongle.
Reboot
At the bluetooth mouse configuration panel select "Bluetooth help" from the help menu.
When Help Viewer loads click "iPod help".
Select the "iPod manual" link.
When Safari loads enter an ftp URL e.g. ftp://ftp.apple.com
You will now get a finder with root privilages without having to enter any passwords.
[/list=1]

Bob

Awimoway

Nov 17, 2003, 06:52 PM

"Restart will be required."

?!? I though restarts for installations would no longer be required in Panther. I thought that was one of its new features. That's what I get for thinking. :(

smada

Nov 17, 2003, 07:04 PM

I'd never heard of that as being a panther feature, but it would be nice. I have heard that simply logging out and then back in accomplishes the same thing as restarting.

beelesbob

Nov 17, 2003, 07:07 PM

The reason restart is required is to restart all the relevant daemons - a log out/log in will not restart them... However it would easily be possible for apple to make non-restart installers, all it would need is to have an install script that sends a sig-HUP to the relevant services.

Bob

toughboy

Nov 17, 2003, 07:18 PM

well...

as a person who is trying to build up a network via bluetooth, I hope this update will help me..

Actually I dont know even if it is possible or not.. my PB doesnt even seem to care about the "bluetooth network" icon on my PC's taskbar! :(

Counterfit

Nov 17, 2003, 07:39 PM

Networking via Bluetooth? Umm, why? WiFi has greater speed and range, and is designed for that purpose, unlike Bluetooth which was designed for peripherals...

TreeTruckie

Nov 17, 2003, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by toughboy
well...

as a person who is trying to build up a network via bluetooth, I hope this update will help me..

Actually I dont know even if it is possible or not.. my PB doesnt even seem to care about the "bluetooth network" icon on my PC's taskbar! :(

PC? Taskbar? Are you even typing in English?

http://forums.macrumors.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Tommy Wasabi

Nov 17, 2003, 08:27 PM

Finally,

I have a 1.25Ghz AuBook with both bluetooth keyboard and mouse. The mouse will finally wake the damn thing from sleep!

Cool Beans.

Icekey

Nov 17, 2003, 09:04 PM

I still can't tick the wake computer from bluetooth devices thing after the update. Anyone know why?

Awimoway

Nov 17, 2003, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by Icekey
I still can't tick the wake computer from bluetooth devices thing after the update. Anyone know why?

Huh? Care to rephrase?

Panther

Nov 17, 2003, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by Icekey
I still can't tick the wake computer from bluetooth devices thing after the update. Anyone know why? I get the same thing, but I always assumed it was because I had a Bluetooth USB "dongle" plugged into my keyboard, not one of the built-in modules like the newer systems have...

Anyone with built-in Bluetooth care to comment?

On the subject of Bluetooth...

I got an Axim X3i (PocketPC) over the weekend, and a Socket SDIO Bluetooth adaptor... I then got a program called PocketMac that lets my sync PocketPC Contacts <-> Address Book, Calendar <-> iCal etc.

I guess the Newton II rumors (for the past year) finally wore me down enough :rolleyes:

mustang_dvs

Nov 17, 2003, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by Tommy Wasabi
...I have a 1.25Ghz AuBook...

You have a gold laptop!?! WOW!

;)

http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/Au/key.html

Icekey

Nov 17, 2003, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Awimoway
Huh? Care to rephrase?

Do you see the bit where I can't tick that says "Allow Bluetooth Devices to wake this computer". Well, supposedly with this update it's supposed to allow you to tick that option with bluetooth devices. I've got a wireless keyboard and mouse and it's not letting me to do it still as you can see from the photo

http://icekey.customer.netspace.net.au/photo/bluetooth.jpg

rlw

Nov 17, 2003, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by Panther
I get the same thing, but I always assumed it was because I had a Bluetooth USB "dongle" plugged into my keyboard, not one of the built-in modules like the newer systems have...

Anyone with built-in Bluetooth care to comment?

I have built in bluetooth and my bluetooth preference panel lets me check "Allow Bluetooth devices to wake this computer".

I hope that what Apples means by "...including enhancements to wake from sleep" is that my Bluetooth mouse will stop creating a kernel panic when it wakes my computer from sleep (happens 1 out of every 20 times or so).

Spyky

Nov 17, 2003, 11:21 PM

The "Wake from Sleep" option is also disabled for me as the above image shows.

Any idea why? I think it may be because it is a notebook, so it doesn't power much of anything (mostly just memory) when in sleep. A desktop may maintain power to the bluetooth interface, etc.

That, or maybe the bluetooth interface just doesn't support this on the PB. It'd be nice if Apple had a note somewhere about this, but I looked on their pages and didn't see anything to that effect.

rlw: What machine are you using?

-Spyky

rlw

Nov 17, 2003, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by Spyky
The "Wake from Sleep" option is also disabled for me as the above image shows.

Any idea why? I think it may be because it is a notebook, so it doesn't power much of anything (mostly just memory) when in sleep.

rlw: What machine are you using?

-Spyky

I am using a Apple bluetooth mouse with a new PB 12" running 10.2.8, so should it work on notebooks.:confused:

Icekey

Nov 18, 2003, 12:11 AM

What sort of settings have you done to get it working? Did you just update it through the software update, reboot, and were you able to tick from there???

Spyky

Nov 18, 2003, 01:02 AM

Hmmm, I'm running 10.3.1, so that may make a difference. Otherwise the 15" and 12" should have the same adaptor, and that shoots down the notebook theory.

-Spyky

Icekey

Nov 18, 2003, 02:06 AM

pjtro2

Nov 18, 2003, 02:08 AM

Has anyone else running wireless mouse+kboard noticed lag when using the mouse since the update?

I've tried pairing it again and it is still *really* slow and laggy (and yes I've adjusted the mouse settings)

Running 1.25ghz 17" iMac....

:confused:

Icekey

Nov 18, 2003, 02:11 AM

Nothing is laggy for me here

Spyky

Nov 18, 2003, 02:52 AM

Yes, you are quite right Icekey, never ran the firmware update. In fact I never even opened the CD, I thought it was just a driver! Now I get the "wake from sleep" option, although I haven't actually tried it yet.

pjtro2: I haven't noticed any lag. However, I tried deleting the pairing after the update, and re-pairing my mouse, and it never finished, eventually I gave up and rebooted (for the second time, also rebooted immediately following update), and it has worked fine since. The pairing happened almost instantly afterwards.

-Spyky

Icekey

Nov 18, 2003, 02:59 AM

On a similiar note, does anyone's mouse battery life not get updated? LIke, the keyboard has the wavey lines with the battery level at aroun d80%, but the mouse one is hte solid blue and is at full. Something must be wrong

Tommy Wasabi

Nov 18, 2003, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by mustang_dvs
You have a gold laptop!?! WOW!

;)

http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/Au/key.html

Man - are you late to the party. Customers that purchased the 1.25Ghz Aluminum Powerbook the day it was released could exchange it for a GOLD version within 3 days. The AuBook is a very unique unit = not as heavy as you think - it's only Gold Plated - but it is sweeeeeeeeet.

<grin>

rlw

Nov 18, 2003, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by Icekey
What sort of settings have you done to get it working? Did you just update it through the software update, reboot, and were you able to tick from there???

Wake from sleep using my Bluetooth mouse has always worked for me - even before updating to this latest version of Bluetooth. I never had to do anything special to allow the selection of the tick for "...allow wake from sleep" on the Bluetooth preference panel. Sorry...

Setup: Apple Bluetooth mouse, new PB 12 with built in bluetooth, running OS X 10.2.8.

Tommy Wasabi

Nov 18, 2003, 11:07 AM

OK, for those of you that cannot get your system to wake from sleep using a bluetooth device - this is what you need to get it to work.

I have NOT tried this under 10.2.8 - only under 10.3.1.

If you have installed the latest and greatest bluetooth update from Apple and it still doesn't work.

Grab the CD that came with the keyboard or with the mouse and install the firmware update.

You will then be required to delete the pairs and reconnect.

Once you've done this, everything will work wonderfully well. Be careful - the Firmware update will cycle the keyboard and mouse. Once you have done the update, turn OFF the keyboard and MOUSE (the switches underneath the devices) for 10 seconds and then turn it back on - then re-pair the devices.

I have a 1.25Ghz 15" Powerbook and this works great for me.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
AuBook for Photos and Video and kids software
XBOX for Halo (and Halo 2)
MarauderPC for Gaming (COD!) and Architecture
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Life is good.

ABassCube

Nov 18, 2003, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by Awimoway
"Restart will be required."

?!? I though restarts for installations would no longer be required in Panther. I thought that was one of its new features. That's what I get for thinking. :(

Actually, I believe this was only a rumor, it was never officially announced by Apple. However, it is true to a certain extent. The main thing was supposed to be that you wouldn't have to restart for security updates. The first security update for Panther you did have to restart for, but for the second one you didn't.

Adam

danielmaui

Nov 21, 2003, 06:18 PM

I'm running the newest version of Panther, have loaded the firmware for the mouse of the CD, and the newest (recent) Bluetooth update, but my mouse still refuses to show up automatically as connected. It's always paired and a favorite, but never connected. Turning the mouse off and on doesn't help either, and I just deleted the "pairing" and "re-paired" it, still to no avail.

The only way I can get it to work is to select Browse device in the menu, which is obviously wrong, but that at least gives me an error message that it's not THAT type of device, and then all of a sudden my 15" 1.25 AlBook sees it as a mouse and allows me to use it as normal.

Any ideas?

Something rather funny... to me anyway... about 4 years ago when Apple released Airport, I made a photoshopped wireless mouse and called it the AirMouse and gave it a webpage. It got a lot of attention, but everyone said it would never happen, Wi-Fi was not the way, but everyone wanted it. And today, here we are using an Apple wireless mouse that runs over the same 2.4GHz frequency as Airport. Strange.

danielmaui

Dec 19, 2003, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by danielmaui
I'm running the newest version of Panther, have loaded the firmware for the mouse of the CD, and the newest (recent) Bluetooth update, but my mouse still refuses to show up automatically as connected. It's always paired and a favorite, but never connected. Turning the mouse off and on doesn't help either, and I just deleted the "pairing" and "re-paired" it, still to no avail.

The only way I can get it to work is to select Browse device in the menu, which is obviously wrong, but that at least gives me an error message that it's not THAT type of device, and then all of a sudden my 15" 1.25 AlBook sees it as a mouse and allows me to use it as normal.

Any ideas?

Something rather funny... to me anyway... about 4 years ago when Apple released Airport, I made a photoshopped wireless mouse and called it the AirMouse and gave it a webpage. It got a lot of attention, but everyone said it would never happen, Wi-Fi was not the way, but everyone wanted it. And today, here we are using an Apple wireless mouse that runs over the same 2.4GHz frequency as Airport. Strange.

Got my Bluetooth Mouse working now, not sure what did it exactly, but I also don't remember clicking the mouse to make it be recognized once being turned on. It does seem however, that merely moving the mouse around does not make it work, I must click it to get the proper initialization.

brightstorm

Mar 26, 2004, 01:16 PM

Got my Bluetooth Mouse working now, not sure what did it exactly, but I also don't remember clicking the mouse to make it be recognized once being turned on. It does seem however, that merely moving the mouse around does not make it work, I must click it to get the proper initialization.

thats also solved the same problem for me. it appears that 2 click of the mouse wakes the mouse up and registers it with the powerbook (g4/1000)

several problems i have had is using the mouse on reflective surfaces. today my mouse was tracking left along the wood grain of the office desk. it also doesnt work on bright white refective tiles;-)

Tommy Wasabi

Mar 27, 2004, 10:20 AM

It appears that the Wireless Keyboard/Mouse Firmware update fixes a lot of the problems discussed in this forum. Give it a try.

Urdam

Apr 10, 2004, 02:40 PM

I agree

Counterfit

Apr 10, 2004, 04:21 PM

I agree *AHEM* (http://forums.macrumors.com/announcement.php?f=4) 1) Keep posts ontopic - Especially in the News/Rumors discussion. Why not tell us something instead of wasting Arn's and our bandwidth?

iChan

Apr 10, 2004, 04:40 PM

I just found out that you need to run the bluetooth update that came with the CD in order to get it to work. I was pretty sure that I downloaded the bluetooth firmware update before. Oh well, it's all good for me now. So if you don't get it still, get that cd out and do the firmware update

i thought i had the latest BT software, which i had, but i could never get the bluetooth wake to work... then i found the bt firmware update... don't understand why there are two downloads for bt updates... weird.

Counterfit

Apr 10, 2004, 04:43 PM

i thought i had the latest BT software, which i had, but i could never get the bluetooth wake to work... then i found the bt firmware update... don't understand why there are two downloads for bt updates... weird. That's because 1.5 came out last month.