MBR Problems - SOLVED

[MacBooksRock]

I'm looking to sell my Aluminum PowerBook G4, it has a 1.25GHz PowerPC G4 processor, 1.5GB of RAM, one month old 120GB 5400RPM WD Hard Drive, 64MB Video Card, 15.4", USB 2.0.

It's in good condition, with a ding in the casing by the DC board (does not affect charging in anyway). I've got the A/C adapter, original box, and the OS X 10.5 Leopard DVD (Also freshly installed).

I used this for syncing songs to my iPhone, writing papers, and some chatting online. I hate to sell it, but I need the cash.

Asking: $360 shipped or best offer. Please ask any questions that you have, and give me an offer - I need to sell it!

Pictures will be posted up in about an hour.

Thanks for looking.

[OrangeSVTguy]

Oh wow I want this so bad but I won't have the money for a few weeks :( bummer LOL. Good luck on the sale!

Great seller btw. You won't be disappointed! :D

[timswim78]

Where are you located?

[OrangeSVTguy]

Where are you located?
He's about 150 miles east of Dallas, Texas :D

Figured I'd post it since I was lingering around ;)

[MacBooksRock]

Here's the pics. Now, the ding by the dc-board isn't nearly as bad as it seems. :)

[OrangeSVTguy]

Just curious but I was looking at specs of this machine on another website (http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/stats/powerbook_g4_1.25_15.html) and was wondering if they are true. Does this have the lighted keyboard and DVD burner? About the dent, was it taken apart and pushed back out? Also how soon do you need to unload this? Thanks :D

[MacBooksRock]

It has the dvd burner, but not the backlit keyboard. I am not sure if it was pushed back out because that's how I received it from the previous owner.

[alecxx]

interested in.. 400$?

[ckwheeler]

Is this still available? Very interested.

[iHerzeleid]

It has the dvd burner, but not the backlit keyboard. I am not sure if it was pushed back out because that's how I received it from the previous owner.

hmm i thought all powerbooks (15 inch that is) had backlit keyboards...

anyways bottom cases are cheap on ebay.
:0

[mrgreen4242]

Is this sold? My sister needs a cheap Mac laptop and might want this.

Thanks.

[MacBooksRock]

It's still for sale, PM me w/ offers.

[alecxx]

pm sent

Ps i'm also interested in your 512mb pc133 sodimm!!!

[OrangeSVTguy]

Do you just need the cash? I can't believe that price, and I still can't believe it hasn't sold yet. I want it even more now! Trade for my xbox 360? Look here for my thread. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=491076)

[alecxx]

payment sent for the Pbook!!!!

[MacBooksRock]

Received. Everyone, check out my other topic if you're interested in a PM G4 MDD.

[rolex54]

Received. Everyone, check out my other topic if you're interested in a PM G4 MDD.

Who got this?... I sent payment at exactly 9PM last night, 5 minutes after you gave me your email address, and several hours before alecxx posted his payment sent post....

[alecxx]

what's going on??????

did rolex sent payment for the same item???

Can you please clarify the situation?

[MacBooksRock]

I had two PBs, one that I just received from eBay, and one that I've had for a month.

Rolex54 is leaving town for a month or two, and he can't have the PB shipped there, so one PB is still up for sale.

I hope this clears things up...

One last PB is available - this is the one that just received off of eBay - without ANY dings or dents. Immaculate condition. I am asking $400 for it.

Specs:
1.25GHz PPC G4
1.5GB RAM
120GB HD

[bamaworks]

I had two PBs, one that I just received from eBay, and one that I've had for a month.

Rolex54 is leaving town for a month or two, and he can't have the PB shipped there, so one PB is still up for sale.

I hope this clears things up...

One last PB is available - this is the one that just received off of eBay - without ANY dings or dents. Immaculate condition. I am asking $400 for it.

Specs:
1.25GHz PPC G4
1.5GB RAM
120GB HD

Photos? My macbook just began to do the dreaded "screen flicker" problem... so I'm debating getting a backup / other unit.... What OS is installed on this PB? Disks included? Superdrive or Combo drive? Battery life?

[OrangeSVTguy]

Well I still hope to get at least get the other one then, which I didn't know about until rolex and alecxx were pm'img me about MBR for references.

I'd also like to know more on the specs and condition and everything included :D

[bamaworks]

Well I still hope to get at least get the other one then, which I didn't know about until rolex and alecxx were pm'img me about MBR for references.

I'd also like to know more on the specs and condition and everything included :D

Perhaps a duel is in order? Deathmatch for the PB! :cool:

[wyatt23]

can you update your OP? i'm interested in a cheaper powerbook for my little brother but i don't know what's still for sale and who wants what. i don't like stepping on toes when throwing out bids, but if there is still a powerbook for sale and there aren't any takers, i'm interested.

[alecxx]

hi

did u shipped?

[alecxx]

hi,

you told me on the 2nd that you will shp the latest on friday....
today's friday,if you don't ship today, since i paid you via paypal, PLEASE refund me today.

[rolex54]

its 7:40PM my time on friday and I still don't have a refund...
Now where are all the guys saying he is a great seller... come on, try to explain this one to me

[alecxx]

NO longer interested in buyin,

i Need full refund.

Refund me within 12hrs since now, or i will file a paypal claim.

game over

[alecxx]

claim filed..

[ert3]

This is why I never do trades outside of ebay.

More rules on ebay and more restrictions on people lacking in reliability.

Though I should say you may want to try contacting him more directly as many schools are just now having final exams and you have no clue what might be happening.

Either way atleast you used paypal so you should be able to get that money back

[alecxx]

what's happened it's really sad...nothing but sad...

:(

[Applepi]

I too am still waiting on my refund, in his defense though he hasn't been on since 10 last night so give him time to log on today. But if I don't receive by this afternoon I'm afraid I'm going to have to file a claim as well.

[alecxx]

refund for the pbook ??

u too???


no, i can't believe this....

this sounds really really ridiculous...

[Applepi]

refund for the pbook ??

u too???


no, i can't believe this....

this sounds really really ridiculous...

refund for OSX Tiger, he lied about shipping it to me and is now taking his sweet time refunding me. I don't have the patience for this anymore.

[rolex54]

come on guys
where are all you wonderful pricks that say this guy is a good seller?
I am waiting... As I have been for 6 days for the refund I requested

[thechidz]

Thia is a really unfortunate situation:( Have you guys tried contacting the seller directly?

I am also waiting on a refund from an MR member. Unfortunately, there is no way to directly contact him. I can't really make a paypal claim because its only a small partial refund on a big money item:rolleyes:

[Applepi]

Thia is a really unfortunate situation:( Have you guys tried contacting the seller directly?

I am also waiting on a refund from an MR member. Unfortunately, there is no way to directly contact him. I can't really make a paypal claim because its only a small partial refund on a big money item:rolleyes:

I can't speak for everyone else, but I myself have private messaged him numerous times and I was told yesterday as soon as he got off work yesterday I would receive my refund and that never happened.
It's a bad situation to be in because this might make us three look like crybabies, but we're really getting ripped off here and we just want our money back..that's all.

[rolex54]

I can't speak for everyone else, but I myself have private messaged him numerous times and I was told yesterday as soon as he got off work yesterday I would receive my refund and that never happened.
It's a bad situation to be in because this might make us three look like crybabies, but we're really getting ripped off here and we just want our money back..that's all.

I too have PM'ed him many times, I was told I would get a refund by friday at the latest. Well welcome to saturday...

[thechidz]

I would have to side with you guys. Its been too long now and after the initial dissatisfaction MBR should have leapt through hurdles to make you guys happy. I think it is time for the dreaded PP claim. Or, if you payed with credit card on paypal (ALWAYS recommended) then just make a chargeback on the card, done and done.

[Applepi]

I would have to side with you guys. Its been too long now and after the initial dissatisfaction MBR should have leapt through hurdles to make you guys happy. I think it is time for the dreaded PP claim. Or, if you payed with credit card on paypal (ALWAYS recommended) then just make a chargeback on the card, done and done.

How do I go about doing a chargeback? I'm a PP noob for the most part.

[alecxx]

i don't have a single Pm form him since the 2nd...
but i have lot of them from Bamaworks, in his defence...

[bamaworks]

come on guys
where are all you wonderful pricks that say this guy is a good seller?
I am waiting... As I have been for 6 days for the refund I requested

LOL With that attitude I hope you never get a refund.

[techlover828]

I have purchased an ipod from him, now I'm getting a little worried... :(

[gkarris]

come on guys
where are all you wonderful pricks that say this guy is a good seller?
I am waiting... As I have been for 6 days for the refund I requested

LOL With that attitude I hope you never get a refund.

I've dealt with him in the past and he's a great buyer - great communications.

Maybe he's busy with personal matters or on a vacation...

[Applepi]

I have purchased an ipod from him, now I'm getting a little worried... :(

He flat out lied to me about shipping my item. I would be extremely vigilant if I were you.

[techlover828]

He flat out lied to me about shipping my item. I would be extremely vigilant if I were you.

ya, well, He said it would be here by monday at the latest, if it's not here by tuesday, I'm contacting him and will most likely file a pp claim.

Although I'm still hoping.

[thechidz]

How do I go about doing a chargeback? I'm a PP noob for the most part.

just call whatever credit card that got charged and tell them that paypal purchase wasnt authorized. They will investigate and refund your money. That is assuming you didnt use a paypal balance to pay (hopefully)

[Applepi]

just call whatever credit card that got charged and tell them that paypal purchase wasnt authorized. They will investigate and refund your money. That is assuming you didnt use a paypal balance to pay (hopefully)

Nope I used credit cards. I filed my claims, do you think that's enough or do you reccomend I call my credit card company as well and do that chargeback?

[thechidz]

this just doesnt make sense though. MBR is a demi-god, which means he contributes money to this site and cares about it. Why would he rip people off here?

[rolex54]

LOL With that attitude I hope you never get a refund.

How can you seriously be sticking up for this guy, I have waited 6 days for a refund that I was promised on friday, I have a right to be a little ticked off, and its not just me, go look at the other users, that are also in the same boat, waiting and waiting for a simple refund

[thechidz]

Nope I used credit cards. I filed my claims, do you think that's enough or do you reccomend I call my credit card company as well and do that chargeback?

well the CC company will be closed today. If you dont hear from him by monday I would definitely do a chargeback...

[Applepi]

this just doesnt make sense though. MBR is a demi-god, which means he contributes money to this site and cares about it. Why would he rip people off here?

We don't get it either, but it sucks.

[techlover828]

I wish I'd used a cc

[thechidz]

I wish I'd used a cc

hey techlover... sorry to get off topic but do you know if you can go to an applestore in new hampshire and buy a macbook tax free?

[alecxx]

i paid via paypal cc....

[MacDann]

I just put 2 and 2 together as I read this thread...

I bought a 3G iPod from MBR on May 21, which he said he would ship the next day or two. When the iPod didn't arrive, he said he shipped it on the 29th, for which I got a confirmation from the USPS from (meaning he bought the postage but didn't necessarily ship the item.)

As of today, the item is still not in the USPS tracking system, and I don't have it, despite his claims of having shipped it on the 29th.

I think the mods need to look closely at this person's history and consider some sanctions.

As for me, I'm filing a claim with PayPal to recover my funds.

MacDann

[thechidz]

I just put 2 and 2 together as I read this thread...

I bought a 3G iPod from MBR on May 21, which he said he would ship the next day or two. When the iPod didn't arrive, he said he shipped it on the 29th, which for which I got a confirmation from the USPS from (meaning he bought the postage but didn't necessarily ship the item.)

As of today, the item is still not in the USPS tracking system, and I don't have it, despite his claims of having shipped it on the 29th.

I think the mods need to look closely at this person's history and consider some sanctions.

As for me, I'm filing a claim with PayPal to recover my funds.

MacDann

even though this is looking very sketchy, I have to say that USPS tracking rarely shows up for me in a timely fashion, (sometimes not until it is delivered)

still is a sketchy situation though...

[Applepi]

I don't think this is a coincidence. MBR is not a good seller. He lied to me about shipping my item and it's becoming more clear that he cannot be trusted. Even though some of you have had transactions that went well with him, doesn't mean it can be said for the rest of us who are having difficulties.

[MacDann]

even though this is looking very sketchy, I have to say that USPS tracking rarely shows up for me in a timely fashion, (sometimes not until it is delivered)

still is a sketchy situation though...

I am well aware of the USPS's rather inaccurate tracking system, however, when they have not indicated receipt of the item for shipment for over a week from the time the postage was purchased, I have concerns.

Couple that with the things that are taking place with others, and I am going to err on the side of caution. I would also add that I have been told that the item either was going to ship or had shipped by a specific date on more than one occasion, and other than the indication of postage being purchased, there is nothing to substantiate these statements.

I have an inherent trust of every MR member I have dealt with here, and I have yet to be burned. I also understand that things happen, and that on occasion people have to make changes or can't perform as promised, and I have no problem with that as long as they are upfront about it.

Call it a hunch, but I don't have the feeling that this seller has been upfront with me.

I'm just glad my sale wasn't for a high ticket item.

MacDann

[techlover828]

hey techlover... sorry to get off topic but do you know if you can go to an applestore in new hampshire and buy a macbook tax free?

ya you can... hope everyone does alright... I'll keep you guys posted with my experience.

[rolex54]

ya you can... hope everyone does alright... I'll keep you guys posted with my experience.

I will also keep you guys posted, although I don't think this will turn out the way everyone would like

[MacBooksRock]

Thanks to alecxx's claim, now I can't refund anyone, because I have a negative paypal balance. Thanks for that alecxx. :mad:

Thanks for ruining my rep guys... I mailed EVERYTHING out via USPS, and you have my word on that (but, thanks to rolex54 and alecxx, my word is ruined).

[rolex54]

Thanks to alecxx's claim, now I can't refund anyone, because I have a negative paypal balance. Thanks for that alecxx. :mad:

Thanks for ruining my rep guys... I mailed EVERYTHING out via USPS, and you have my word on that (but, thanks to rolex54 and alecxx, my word is ruined).


All we want is our refunds, I for one have waited plenty long enough to receive one

[techlover828]

Thanks to alecxx's claim, now I can't refund anyone, because I have a negative paypal balance. Thanks for that alecxx. :mad:

Thanks for ruining my rep guys... I mailed EVERYTHING out via USPS, and you have my word on that (but, thanks to rolex54 and alecxx, my word is ruined).

so I'm assuming you shipped mine out? I trust you, at least I want to trust you, I just want some confirmation that it's actually in the mail, are you sure there's no tracking number? thanks, feel free to pm me.

[MacDann]

so I'm assuming you shipped mine out? I trust you, at least I want to trust you, I just want some confirmation that it's actually in the mail, are you sure there's no tracking number? thanks, feel free to pm me.

I have a tracking number, but the USPS says the item has never been presented for shipment. I talked with my postmaster this morning and they checked for me. As they stated, "Just because someone bought postage doesn't mean they mailed it."

They also said that despite the USPS' tracking system being kludgy, if it had been scanned for shipment, there would be a record of it in the system by now.

The postage was purchased on May 29th.

I would also like to trust the seller, but I am reluctant to given the circumstances.

MacDann

[alecxx]

Dear Mr MBR;

this one it's the very 1st comment to my words since monday.....
Now the situation is clear enough...and i don't think you can blame me for what it's obviously your fault!

Btw i didn't get any refund, just failed a claim and asked for a refund.
You can refund me, and the dispute will be automatically closed.
It's easy,,,,

About your word.... nobody it's judging you....we're only looking at the events...

[bamaworks]

I have a tracking number, but the USPS says the item has never been presented for shipment. I talked with my postmaster this morning and they checked for me. As they stated, "Just because someone bought postage doesn't mean they mailed it."

They also said that despite the USPS' tracking system being kludgy, if it had been scanned for shipment, there would be a record of it in the system by now.

The postage was purchased on May 29th.

I would also like to trust the seller, but I am reluctant to given the circumstances.

MacDann

I have an ebay item shipped (iPhone) that still hasn't updated via USPS. I sent it on Tuesday... and the tracking still says "Electronic shipping info received" or whatever USPS says...

[liquidh2o]

Thanks to alecxx's claim, now I can't refund anyone, because I have a negative paypal balance. Thanks for that alecxx. :mad:

Thanks for ruining my rep guys... I mailed EVERYTHING out via USPS, and you have my word on that (but, thanks to rolex54 and alecxx, my word is ruined).

You are incorrect about being able to refund anyone. You can settle the dispute through the resolution center w/ Alecxx, it will issue him a refund, and the dispute will be ended.

You've had almost a week to refund these buyers and yet you haven't. You obviously have enough time to post on here, but you CAN'T give a legitimate reason why you HAVENT refunded them yet. Simple press of a button. You don't have to have the funds in your paypal account, it allows you to link right to your bank. People have paid you more $$ for items since then. Any way you look at it, you have had the ability to refund them but haven't. At the very least, you're an unethical/lazy trader.

[rolex54]

You are incorrect about being able to refund anyone. You can settle the dispute through the resolution center w/ Alecxx, it will issue him a refund, and the dispute will be ended.

You've had almost a week to refund these buyers and yet you haven't. You obviously have enough time to post on here, but you CAN'T give a legitimate reason why you HAVENT refunded them yet. Simple press of a button. You don't have to have the funds in your paypal account, it allows you to link right to your bank. People have paid you more $$ for items since then. Any way you look at it, you have had the ability to refund them but haven't. At the very least, you're an unethical/lazy trader.

You are 100% correct, I should at the very least see a pending refund to my account...

[MacBooksRock]

I have an ebay item shipped (iPhone) that still hasn't updated via USPS. I sent it on Tuesday... and the tracking still says "Electronic shipping info received" or whatever USPS says...

That's right, it happens all the time w/ USPS.

[tweaks]

That's right, it happens all the time w/ USPS.

I can agree with that too. USPS tacking sucks the big one. Best way is to either wait or show a scanned receipt.

Once package arrives you can see when it was actually sent.

[taylorwilsdon]

That's right, it happens all the time w/ USPS.

That still doesn't dismiss the fact that you haven't issued refunds where refunds were due.

[dukebound85]

That still doesn't dismiss the fact that you haven't issued refunds where refunds were due.

agreed

its funny you (MBR) are getting mad at individuals ruining your rep when you can complete a simple transaction in more than enough time

they are perfectly justified being agrravated with you.....

[iToaster]

MBR, my inherent trust seems to be waning ever so slightly. I don't want to file a claim, all I really want is my computer to be shipped to me and a tracking number to be PM'd to me. I'm pretty lenient about when you ship it, but when you say friday and I haven't gotten any confirmation, things look a little suspect. MBR, I don't know exactly where you are, but my guess is that there is a USPS or UPS store somewhere close to you, so really, it would be easier to just ship out the items requested or refund the people their money than have to deal with all this. I'm beginning to wonder if I should file a claim for my money or not. I'll give you until 13th to ship my item, if I have no confirmation of shipment (ie, tracking number) then I will file a claim. I hope there is a reason for this and it's not that you're scamming us.

[rolex54]

MBR, my inherent trust seems to be waning ever so slightly. I don't want to file a claim, all I really want is my computer to be shipped to me and a tracking number to be PM'd to me. I'm pretty lenient about when you ship it, but when you say friday and I haven't gotten any confirmation, things look a little suspect. MBR, I don't know exactly where you are, but my guess is that there is a USPS or UPS store somewhere close to you, so really, it would be easier to just ship out the items requested or refund the people their money than have to deal with all this. I'm beginning to wonder if I should file a claim for my money or not. I'll give you until 13th to ship my item, if I have no confirmation of shipment (ie, tracking number) then I will file a claim. I hope there is a reason for this and it's not that you're scamming us.


Ohh and that would be our 7th MR user who is having problems with this guy. In total we have me, alecxx, Applepi, techlover828, Macdann, brobson and iToaster. Anyone else wonder how that list got so long before some red flags went up...

[Applepi]

I leave for the remainder of the day and come back early in the AM to find my paypal STILL empty. MBR I demand my refund now, you are a plague to this community. DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

[Applepi]

I now have head honcho of MacRumors, Arn, involved in this mess. MacbooksRock, you need to give us our refunds. This is getting so ridiculous, and you could be looking at criminal charges if you do not follow through.

[alecxx]

no refund yet...i think he should consider better what's going to do....
it 's not only about his Rep, but He's risking more and more...

[MacBooksRock]

MacDann refunded, others will be soon.

[MacBooksRock]

You will ALL have refunds by June 17, 2008 (Tuesday of next week). That's the best I can do. But, you will have your refunds.

Is that O.K.? Now that you have a specific date on which you will receive your money back?

Thanks for your patience.

[MacDann]

MacDann refunded, others will be soon.

Thank you for the refund. I do have one question, however:

What happens when the iPod you told me shipped on the 29th shows up?

I would appreciate an honest response as to whether or not you did, in fact, ship it. I think it would go a long way towards clearing the air around here relative to your reputation, or what's left of it.

MacDann

[MacBooksRock]

When it does show up, you can keep it, send it back to me, or send me $40 again. And, yes, I honestly shipped the iPod.

This is all just a big mess, and it will be cleared up by June 17. If any of you have any questions, you can post here, or PM me. Thanks.

[techlover828]

MacDann refunded, others will be soon.

so am I on that list, I've yet to receive it. Do you have a tracking number at all?

[MacDann]

When it does show up, you can keep it, send it back to me, or send me $40 again. And, yes, I honestly shipped the iPod.

This is all just a big mess, and it will be cleared up by June 17. If any of you have any questions, you can post here, or PM me. Thanks.

When it shows up, as long as it is as described, I will keep it and send you the $40 immediately. I would much rather have the iPod.

I appreciate your honesty, and will give you the benefit of the doubt at this point.

Thanks,

MacDann

[alecxx]

ok let's wait and see...

[jessica.]

How come the refunds have to be dished out a week from Tuesday? If you were selling things you already owned then the money would be in account somewhere right? That is unless you sold stuff you didn't have or decided not to ship and spent the cash. Now they have to wait for what? You to get your allowance or your paycheck? Clearly they have to wait because you spent their money and didn't deliver, but I am curious why?

A word of advice, that you clearly need. Buy stuff, sell stuff, don't spend your cash until that person comes back and says they 1) received the item 2) are happy with the transaction. Until the transaction is really closed you shouldn't spend the money because you clearly don't have any other cash available to make it right to these 6 other people.

As far as the kid being a Demi-god. That doesn't make them any more ethical.

[kmarketing]

Hi,

I've been following this thread, very interesting...

So the $40 has been refunded, how about the items that cost a few hundred dollars?

Definitely questionable business practice.

[alecxx]

in my case, I hope for the seller, that He won't be "forced" to pay....coz 350$ coudl become a lot more....

I hope He understand...

[rolex54]

Hi,

I've been following this thread, very interesting...

So the $40 has been refunded, how about the items that cost a few hundred dollars?

Definitely questionable business practice.
My $360 has not been refunded, but he escalated my dispute to a full paypal claim, but before he did that he wrote in the box that he wanted to give me a refund. I don't know why he would make paypal decide if we both decided to the exact same thing. The claims process is for working out differences between what each of the parties want.

[thechidz]

My $360 has not been refunded, but he escalated my dispute to a full paypal claim, but before he did that he wrote in the box that he wanted to give me a refund. I don't know why he would make paypal decide if we both decided to the exact same thing. The claims process is for working out differences between what each of the parties want.

it looks like, for whatever reason, he doesn't have the money and is buying his time until he does

[macintosh tech]

My $360 has not been refunded, but he escalated my dispute to a full paypal claim, but before he did that he wrote in the box that he wanted to give me a refund. I don't know why he would make paypal decide if we both decided to the exact same thing. The claims process is for working out differences between what each of the parties want.

Is it possible that he thinks by saying he wants to give you a refund, paypal will drop the claim assuming he will give it to you? At that point of course, he wouldn't have to give you anything because you couldn't file a paypal claim again. It would have to go to small claims.

From what I have read so far, I could see the seller trying to make this kind of move. It extends the amount of time he can hold onto the funds and leaves a chance (very small chance) that paypal would give the claim in his favor.

[marclapierre13]

To all posters, please be aware that this is not a place for a discussion, but rather a sale between the buyers/seller. This is against the marketplace rules, as not many of you are actually involved or interested in the items being sold. Let the buyers and seller work it out, and they can keep us updated.

[macintosh tech]

To all posters, please be aware that this is not a place for a discussion, but rather a sale between the buyers/seller. This is against the marketplace rules, as not many of you are actually involved or interested in the items being sold. Let the buyers and seller work it out, and they can keep us updated.

I would have to disagree, it is possible that some of the buyers might not know what to do as they have never been in such a situation. If that is the case, being swindled by the potential crook in a resolution would be all too easy without feedback from others here.

It is easy to say let the buyers and sellers work it out, but when one of the buyers posts some information people are going to chime in to offer advice. The buyers are posting information and feedback is being offered. I don't know about you, but if I haven't been through some of this before you can bet your ... that I wouldn't want to work it out with someone who seems to be a liar.

[marclapierre13]

The mods are very attentive to situations like these, and they can offer their expertise. Or the buyers can open a thread in some other part of the forum to get feedback from others, but this being the marketplace is not a place for EVERYONE to have a discussion

[Blue Velvet]

We're leaving this thread open to see how things resolve and are watching developments very closely.

[Applepi]

Exactly, I've never dealt with something like this before and all the advice I have received so far from other users has been extremely helpful. And I knew that discussion was against marketplace rules, but after looking at all the other forums, where could we go to discuss besides something that happened/is happening in the marketplace?

As for MBR, it's all too clear of what you did and now I have to wait another week to get my money/item I purchased that I should have received two weeks ago???? Maybe you should refund those who purchased first, or have you spent all the money and could have only refunded $40? Ridiculous. And be 100% honest with me. Did you ship tiger or not? It's been almost 2 weeks and there is no way it would take that long to ship to MN from TX. So where is it?

Thank you to the mods for understanding, and I hope something can be done to avoid things like this in the future.

[MacDann]

As for MBR, it's all too clear of what you did and now I have to wait another week to get my money/item I purchased that I should have received two weeks ago???? Maybe you should refund those who purchased first, or have you spent all the money and could have only refunded $40? Ridiculous. And be 100% honest with me. Did you ship tiger or not? It's been almost 2 weeks and there is no way it would take that long to ship to MN from TX. So where is it?


Exactly my point in a prior post - I want the seller to admit that they didn't ship it if they truly did not. I think this goes to the core of the situation, that the seller was not truthful to begin with, and continued to mislead buyers throughout the process.

The only way that MBR can redeem themselves in my eyes is if the item actually shows up here in the next day or two. I am skeptical, to say the least, but I will give them the benefit of the doubt for a little while longer.


Thank you to the mods for understanding, and I hope something can be done to avoid things like this in the future.

I am in total agreement - thank you, mods! I have been waiting for the mods to lock this thread, and I'm really pleased to see that they have left it open so that the situation is visible to all, if not for anything else but to enlighten other Marketplace users.

MacDann

[iMpathetic]

I've been following this discussion very closely, and I have to say I'm glad that the thread hasn't been closed yet. If it was, and if MBR did redeem himself, but through PMs or email, the general MR public might not know the issue was resolved.

So, a big "woohoo" to the mods. :)

[OscarTheGrouch]

Why can we not have a rep system? I know it's possible to implement them in vB. i'm on a few boards that have them in place. It would give documentable reputation.

Also, 100 posts is not necessarily a good way to say someone can sell. I can get 100 semi meaningful posts in a day. How about a time limit as well as x amount of posts?

[marclapierre13]

a lot of sellers/buyers on here, myself included, use the heatware feedback system.

[Blue Velvet]

This isn't the thread for discussing changes to the Marketplace.

As with most things around here, reviews are always going on so if you'd like to talk about these kind of options, perhaps this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=416590) is more appropriate. Thanks.

[OscarTheGrouch]

This isn't the thread for discussing changes to the Marketplace.

As with most things around here, reviews are always going on so if you'd like to talk about these kind of options, perhaps this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=416590) is more appropriate. Thanks.

thanks, resurrected it :)

[MacBooksRock]

Well, alecxx, rolex54, and everyone else will get their money back on the 17th... Isn't it good to know that you're getting it back?? :confused:

[dukebound85]

the 17th is a ways away. just curious for their sake why not any sooner???:confused:

[thechidz]

It is obvious from this thread that MR members care about this site and their fellow members enough to look out for sketchy situations such as this. MBR... can you please enlighten us to what the trouble was with this situation? you have yet to post a response just stating an honest answer to the many questions asked...

here is your chance to at least explain and if you are just honest this will all cool down and eventually go away...

[alecxx]

hi MBR,

i think happy sounds a bit ironic....

I hope it will happen before...for EVERYONE...

[avigalante]

It is obvious from this thread that MR members care about this site and their fellow members enough to look out for sketchy situations such as this. MBR... can you please enlighten us to what the trouble was with this situation? you have yet to post a response just stating an honest answer to the many questions asked...

here is your chance to at least explain and if you are just honest this will all cool down and eventually go away...

I agree; if you're just up front about it --regardless of what the situation may be-- the situation will cool down 10-fold. Transparency is key when dealing online because of the very nature of internet dealing (sans face to face).

[alecxx]

What id' really like to know it's where 's Bamaworks...who defended the seller very strongly, and for what he said, paid for a Pbook too...

Maybe it's only his BF, or not...

[liquidh2o]

Well, alecxx, rolex54, and everyone else will get their money back on the 17th... Isn't it good to know that you're getting it back?? :confused:

Quite frankly, this is unacceptable. You had already promised alecxx and rolex54 a prompt refund but failed to deliver. Now you're pushing this back even further and you have not given a reason as to why. Its been stated you can deliver a refund at any time (even if you have a dispute/claim against you), and you can also do it w/o having the funds in your pp account (linking to your bank). Somehow all of there money is gone now and you can't refund it right back? Come on...

[bamaworks]

What id' really like to know it's where 's Bamaworks...who defended the seller very strongly, and for what he said, paid for a Pbook too...

Maybe it's only his BF, or not...

I'm right here, just letting things play out. There was absolutely nothing wrong with my initial defense. He has a good previous selling record and considering we live in America... that whole innocent until proven guilty thing...

And yes I paid for a Powerbook and am awaiting receipt. We've agreed to have it shipped on Tuesday via UPS. He has kept in reliable contact via PM, perhaps because I'm a tad more polite.

[rolex54]

Well, alecxx, rolex54, and everyone else will get their money back on the 17th... Isn't it good to know that you're getting it back?? :confused:

Honestly, no, its not good to know that at all, I should of had an immediate refund, then you say I would have one by last friday, so this is just a new deadline for you, it means nothing to me until I see the balance in my paypal account. You broke one deadline, what's stopping you from breaking another...

[MacBooksRock]

Actually, alecxx had no right to ask for a refund. He just couldn't be patient enough to wait until a Tuesday shipment. What happened is he found one on eBay, and then filed a PayPal claim b/c he no longer wanted mine - that's not really what you should do. When you buy something from someone, you're not supposed to go buy another one on eBay... I never promised alecxx a refund, he opened a claim b/c he found one he liked better on eBay (previously stated)... :confused:

And yes, I know I'm not a very good seller (for poor communication, etc..). But, I sold my 2 PBs, my 3G iPod, my 4G iPod, and my OS X 10.4 Tiger disk, in order to fix my car, and pay the rent for my apartment. I had no idea that this would happen. I thought that I would have some money on Friday (thought my friend would buy my iMac, but he didn't), so that I could refund Rolex54, but it didn't happen. I get paid on Monday night of next week (June 16), so I can refund everyone then. I would refund them all now, but, I just can't afford it ATM.

That's what happened, and everything should turn out fine after June 17.

ApplePi, when you receive the OS X disk, would you please be kind enough to cancel the PayPal dispute? I did ship it when I said.

At the end of all of this, people will be posting pics of the stuff they bought from me :D

So, no one will want to buy from me after this is over, probably, but if anyone wants a PB G4, I have the one that I was going to sell Alecxx (w/ the ding by the DC-in board). And then that will enable me to refund Rolex54 or alecxx early...

[alecxx]

Alecxx waited until friday, patiently...then you missed up a deadline, and as in any contract, I asked for a full refund that you MUST give to me.

I ended up not buyin the item form ebay, even if i'm in hurry, i'm looking for other books here.

I'm sorry for what's goin on to you, BUT i would not pay the risk in getting something from you, since you dind't showed a good care of our business.

So i'm 101% qualified for the refund, and AGAIN, I dont want your item anymore, as Rolex did.
I waited for you until friday,since monday....i think i'ts enough.

I bought over 3000$ of items here int he last month, w/out any trouble...

SO, please refund me.
I deserve it.
You know it's my right.

[MacBooksRock]

Yes, alecxx, I am going to refund you. On June 17, you WILL have a full refund of all of your money, as you see my explanation above for the late refund.

[OscarTheGrouch]

Actually, alecxx had no right to ask for a refund. He just couldn't be patient enough to wait until a Tuesday shipment. What happened is he found one on eBay, and then filed a PayPal claim b/c he no longer wanted mine - that's not really what you should do. When you buy something from someone, you're not supposed to go buy another one on eBay... I never promised alecxx a refund, he opened a claim b/c he found one he liked better on eBay (previously stated)... :confused:

And yes, I know I'm not a very good seller (for poor communication, etc..). But, I sold my 2 PBs, my 3G iPod, my 4G iPod, and my OS X 10.4 Tiger disk, in order to fix my car, and pay the rent for my apartment. I had no idea that this would happen. I thought that I would have some money on Friday (thought my friend would buy my iMac, but he didn't), so that I could refund Rolex54, but it didn't happen. I get paid on Monday night of next week (June 16), so I can refund everyone then. I would refund them all now, but, I just can't afford it ATM.

That's what happened, and everything should turn out fine after June 17.

ApplePi, when you receive the OS X disk, would you please be kind enough to cancel the PayPal dispute? I did ship it when I said.

At the end of all of this, people will be posting pics of the stuff they bought from me :D

So, no one will want to buy from me after this is over, probably, but if anyone wants a PB G4, I have the one that I was going to sell Alecxx (w/ the ding by the DC-in board). And then that will enable me to refund Rolex54 or alecxx early...
lol. i feel for ya, ive been hard up for cash before, but remember in the future, just own up to problems ASAP, people are much forgiving that way. not to mention if delays come up, let the person know when they come up.


also, if i commit to buying something, i keep my commitment no matter what, unless an extreme situation comes up.


speaking of which i need a few bucks right now, anyone wanna buy my stuff?? :)

[alecxx]

i read my last post...and maybe i've been a little "rough"..i'm sorry
in the end, if you're honestly telling what's happened, i'm not allowed to judge.

So keep us updated,and we will forget this episode.

Good luck!

[MacBooksRock]

So keep us updated,and we will forget this episode.


Will do! :)

[Applepi]

ApplePi, when you receive the OS X disk, would you please be kind enough to cancel the PayPal dispute? I did ship it when I said.


I'll drop the claim as soon as I see my hard earned, $65 back in my account, because the way it's been going..that'll happen before I receive the OSX disc.

[Bobjob186]

I payed for a G4 cube on May 31st, MBR said that he shipped it on June 3rd. I've asked him for the tracking number twice now. He tells me that he'll look it up for me, but how hard is it to just send me the number. What should I do?

[techlover828]

I payed for a G4 cube on May 31st, MBR said that he shipped it on June 3rd. I've asked him for the tracking number twice now. He tells me that he'll look it up for me, but how hard is it to just send me the number. What should I do?

wait like the rest of us, it sucks...

[MacDann]

I payed for a G4 cube on May 31st, MBR said that he shipped it on June 3rd. I've asked him for the tracking number twice now. He tells me that he'll look it up for me, but how hard is it to just send me the number. What should I do?

Hmm. The iPod that had postage purchased for it on May 29th *still* hasn't shown up as of today's mail, either, so you're not alone.

MacDann

[weazbert]

i havent heard anything of my promised ipod either. this sucks. it was supposed to ship....then supposed to ship, i paid on may26th. it was promised to ship today...... i have no contact.

paypal it is. :(

[gazfocus]

Actually, alecxx had no right to ask for a refund. He just couldn't be patient enough to wait until a Tuesday shipment. What happened is he found one on eBay, and then filed a PayPal claim b/c he no longer wanted mine - that's not really what you should do. When you buy something from someone, you're not supposed to go buy another one on eBay... I never promised alecxx a refund, he opened a claim b/c he found one he liked better on eBay (previously stated)... :confused:

And yes, I know I'm not a very good seller (for poor communication, etc..). But, I sold my 2 PBs, my 3G iPod, my 4G iPod, and my OS X 10.4 Tiger disk, in order to fix my car, and pay the rent for my apartment. I had no idea that this would happen. I thought that I would have some money on Friday (thought my friend would buy my iMac, but he didn't), so that I could refund Rolex54, but it didn't happen. I get paid on Monday night of next week (June 16), so I can refund everyone then. I would refund them all now, but, I just can't afford it ATM.

That's what happened, and everything should turn out fine after June 17.

ApplePi, when you receive the OS X disk, would you please be kind enough to cancel the PayPal dispute? I did ship it when I said.

At the end of all of this, people will be posting pics of the stuff they bought from me :D

So, no one will want to buy from me after this is over, probably, but if anyone wants a PB G4, I have the one that I was going to sell Alecxx (w/ the ding by the DC-in board). And then that will enable me to refund Rolex54 or alecxx early...

You still havent explained what's happened to the items you were meant to have shipped but haven't arrived?

[MacDann]

You still havent explained what's happened to the items you were meant to have shipped but haven't arrived?

Exactly. I know I am only one of a number of people who were promised items were shipped that have yet to show up in a reasonable time. In my case, the USPS indicated MBR purchased the postage on 5/29, and to-date I have yet to see anything.

As for those who caution about the USPS' lousy tracking system, you must admit that the time elapsed from the purported ship date to now is excessive. We're approaching two weeks....

Again, the only way that MBR can redeem themselves in my eyes is to admit that they have not been totally truthful about the transaction. How long should we wait for something to show up after being told it's shipped on more than one occasion?

MacDann

[gazfocus]

I know what you mean. I sold an AppleTV on here a couple of weeks ago, ended up having a motorcycle accident and got someone else to issue the buyer a refund for me so he wasn't kept waiting.

It pays to be honest with buyers and you'll be respected for it, especially if you sell alot on here (as MBR seems to).

[Rapmastac1]

Better watch out, the watch crew is always willing to help...

http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=244457 (Forum members track down scammer, using IP address and old photos of his car. They eventually find his house...)

That thread reminds me of Smokey and the Bandit when you see one truck coming down and they start multiplying, two trucks coming out from behind that one truck and so forth. Gives me a good feeling inside!

I hope everyone gets their refunds back, and it is a shame you have to wait until the 17. While his story is appealing to the sadness, I still have my doubts. He did not explain everything thoroughly, but lets give him time to process the refunds.

[marclapierre13]

In canada, 2 weeks is hardly time to finish shipping. I would wait another week or so before coming to a final judgment. To me though it does sound like it hasnt been shipped, some people have been waiting over 3 weeks for their item in the same country. But for everyone else, just wait a week until deciding if it hasnt been sent, and then on the 17th get the paypal refund.
it is kind of odd how almost everything this guy sells the buyers are on this thread claiming they havent received it...

[MacBooksRock]

I shipped them via USPS Media Mail. Can take 7-14 business days. My earlier explanation was true.

[Applepi]

I shipped them via USPS Media Mail. Can take 7-14 business days. My earlier explanation was true.

First of all, you told me Priority Mail. We are less than 1000 miles away from each other..that would take about 3 days, trust me I know..I've done plenty of priority shipments.

Second of all, it will be 2 weeks tomorrow when you claimed you shipped it. It shouldn't take this long and you know it. Just cut the crap and be honest with us, it's getting old.

PS, to whoever is deleting my posts can you please not? I have every right to be upset and I wish for my voice to be heard so I and the other members who are going through the same problem can be all on the same page here.

[techlover828]

so do you guys think I would wait until tuesday for him to refund me before I file a claim, I don't want to somehow wait too long and then miss out...

[alecxx]

i hope the 16th will be our last day of agony...

[bamaworks]

i hope the 16th will be our last day of agony...

Well, he's supposed to be shipping my Pb this afternoon. Hopefully everything goes a little better than it has for you guys.

[jonasmac]

I shipped them via USPS Media Mail. Can take 7-14 business days. My earlier explanation was true.

One time I shipped a couple of packages filled with books home from college using media mail. It took 4-6 weeks to get everything to me. I haven't used media mail since.

IMHO, USPS Media Mail is not a viable shipping method when making these particular types of online purchases (i.e. on a forum). I hope you were up front about that shipping method with your buyers.

[gazfocus]

so do you guys think I would wait until tuesday for him to refund me before I file a claim, I don't want to somehow wait too long and then miss out...

I would file your claim now. Paypal have a limit on how long you have in order to do this, and maybe he knows the paypal system enough to avoid being caught by them?

[techound1]

I would file your claim now. Paypal have a limit on how long you have in order to do this, and maybe he knows the paypal system enough to avoid being caught by them?

Filing a claim will require the sender to show proof of having shipped the item. If that doesn't exist, odds are very good things will go in favour of the non-receiver.

[thechidz]

I would file your claim now. Paypal have a limit on how long you have in order to do this, and maybe he knows the paypal system enough to avoid being caught by them?

agreed... filing a claim just starts the communication process with the seller and forces him to provide proof of shipment... its no big deal until you escalate. I would recommend this to everyone involved...

[techlover828]

claim filed, sorry MBR, I wish we could have resolved it ourselves.

[Bobjob186]

I filed a claim too, I have no time to wait for more lies. Poor G4 Cube, I wonder if you ever existed.

[taylorwilsdon]

You aren't legally allowed to ship anything except books and cd's (media) through media mail, and it can take months...

[MacDann]

I shipped them via USPS Media Mail. Can take 7-14 business days. My earlier explanation was true.

Quoting from a PM sent to me on 5/21/08:

Got the payment! I'll be mailing it out tomorrow via USPS Priority Mail, is that ok?

PayPal will send you an email with tracking information when I do. Thanks.

So this Media Mail thing is a totally new wrinkle.

MacDann

[techlover828]

You aren't legally allowed to ship anything except books and cd's (media) through media mail, and it can take months...

all to save $2...

[MacBooksRock]

Quoting from a PM sent to me on 5/21/08:



So this Media Mail thing is a totally new wrinkle.

MacDann

I didn't say I shipped your ipod via media mail...

[gazfocus]

I didn't say I shipped your ipod via media mail...

I shipped them via USPS Media Mail. Can take 7-14 business days. My earlier explanation was true.

Hmm doesn't sound like it? Why don't you just be straight with everyone? Just a "yes I got caught up in all this and didn't actually get round to posting anything"

[MacDann]

I didn't say I shipped your ipod via media mail...

Thanks for clarifying that. So how much longer should I be waiting for the iPod that shipped on the 29th of May? It still doesn't show as being received by the USPS.

MacDann

[MacBooksRock]

Ok. Here's the deal:
I got in a financial bind, decided to sell some of my semi-valuable items to help get my out. Well, I sold them, transferred the money to my bank account, and, well, got out of the bind (fixed my car, etc..). Then, I wasn't able to ship the PBs for a few days (due to heavy loads at work), and then Rolex54 was going out of the country on Friday.. Well, how was I going to get him a refund?? Then, he opened up a PayPal dispute (350 or 360 bucks in the red), then Alecxx filed a claim (another $350 bucks in the red)... Well, I'm not able to fix that negative balance until Tuesday... Then tonight, bobjob opens up a dispute, demands a refund by tomorrow morning or he's "getting the authorities involved". How can I possibly refund him with a -750 balance?? And, I didn't do anything that bad, I was going to ship the items to Rolex54 and Alecxx, I shipped the iPod to MacDann late, shipped an iPod to techlover late, shipped the tiger disk to ApplePi late, shipped the Cube to bobjob late... And who knows what else I shipped late?? I'm sorry guys, I did ship your stuff, and I know you'll get it eventually. And, I know I'm a crappy communicator. And I'm probably never going to sell anything on the marketplace here again after this... But, I just want to get this straightened out... But I can't refund anyone until Tuesday. What do you want me to do????

[MacDann]

But, I just want to get this straightened out... But I can't refund anyone until Tuesday. What do you want me to do????

FWIW, my refund still hasn't been funded, according to PayPal.

As I have said all along, you need to be truthful. That's the only way you can redeem yourself as far as I'm concerned. I am still not convinced you're telling me the truth about shipping the iPod.

And to be brutally honest, all of this was a result of your (continued) actions - to try and displace blame on the buyers is just wrong.

As has been discussed throughout this thread, I think everyone here, at least those I have dealt with, are understanding and willing to work with a buyer/seller who runs into a glitch. I can say that on one occasion I had a sale that I didn't get shipped out the day I told the seller - I contacted them, let them know I missed the date, apologized, and offered to let them back out, refund a portion of the shipping, or just continue on. It happens - but when it happens to nearly all of your buyers, it's a real stretch to maintain any shred of credibility.

If you agreed to ship something to someone by a specific date, you should either deliver or be prepared (and expect) to give an immediate refund. I'm not a party to the transaction, but if I understand it correctly, you agreed to ship something to arrive by a "hard" date, which you did not.


So tell me on what day did you ship the iPod?

MacDann

[bamaworks]

FWIW he gave me a valid UPS tracking number and it's shipping my way at the moment. 10.7 lbs, Powerbook supposed to arrive Thursday.

[MacBooksRock]

FWIW, my refund still hasn't been funded, according to PayPal.

As I have said all along, you need to be truthful. That's the only way you can redeem yourself as far as I'm concerned. I am still not convinced you're telling me the truth about shipping the iPod.

And to be brutally honest, all of this was a result of your (continued) actions - to try and displace blame on the buyers is just wrong.

As has been discussed throughout this thread, I think everyone here, at least those I have dealt with, are understanding and willing to work with a buyer/seller who runs into a glitch. I can say that on one occasion I had a sale that I didn't get shipped out the day I told the seller - I contacted them, let them know I missed the date, apologized, and offered to let them back out, refund a portion of the shipping, or just continue on. It happens - but when it happens to nearly all of your buyers, it's a real stretch to maintain any shred of credibility.

If you agreed to ship something to someone by a specific date, you should either deliver or be prepared (and expect) to give an immediate refund. I'm not a party to the transaction, but if I understand it correctly, you agreed to ship something to arrive by a "hard" date, which you did not.


So tell me on what day did you ship the iPod?

MacDann

I know... 1% of it is the buyer's fault, the other 99% is mine, I'm serious.

Yes, I should've done what you did for the buyer, that's what should be done in all situations like that.


Friday, June 6... Sorry I didn't tell you, but I didn't think you'd understand. I know I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I deserve it.

[jonasmac]

How can you seriously be sticking up for this guy, I have waited 6 days for a refund that I was promised on friday, I have a right to be a little ticked off, and its not just me, go look at the other users, that are also in the same boat, waiting and waiting for a simple refund

Maybe they are the same person? :eek:

Or he's kissing up to get his item shipped on time? :eek: :eek: :eek:

[bamaworks]

Maybe they are the same person? :eek:

Or he's kissing up to get his item shipped on time? :eek: :eek: :eek:

Same person? Oh p'shaw, that'd be way too elaborate, haha.
And I can provide the tracking number! :) It will show Texarkana, AR to Richmond, KY.

Kissing up to get my item shipped? I'm not going to support or deny that claim ;).

[OscarTheGrouch]

I have .02 that I'd like to weigh in on.

Everyone here has the right to be PO'ed, that's without a doubt.

MBR has lied, been slack, and a pee poor communicator.

I have no idea how old MBR is, but I would wager kinda young. I've been in a similar situation. I do something, wind up in a jam, try to do something else to try to get out of the jam, it blows up in my face and I panic. From the sounds of it, thats exactly what happened with MBR.

Some of you have never been faced with his situation, or anything remotely like it. I have. It sucks, royally, but I bet/hope he learns from it. He is going to have to work hard to rebuild any kind of rep here to sell again, but I implore ya'll to see this for what it appears to be- a giant cluster F that I believe no one wanted to happen, not an intentional act to try to scam someone or screw someone out of money. If that's what he really wanted to do, he would have let his paypal account go, and never posted here again. I think that alone shows that he is trying to do the right thing.


MBR- from now on, be honest dude, take it from someone with ALOT of experience in the dishonest department- it takes ALOT less energy to be honest and upfront. It might hurt for a little bit, but trust me, it's alot less painful than the alternative. If you screw up- OWN UP TO IT ASAP, people are usually willing to work with you if you are open and honest. I'll still stick up for you cause I have been there, and for some stupid reason have faith in people still. Do what's right, as quick as possible, and keep your word.

Also, if anyone wants to buy something MBR has for sale, and is iffy, I'm happy to be a middle man free of charge to see that no one gets screwed.


Essentially, unless there is news, why dont we let this thing drop a bit?

[marclapierre13]

I have .02 that I'd like to weigh in on.

Everyone here has the right to be PO'ed, that's without a doubt.

MBR has lied, been slack, and a pee poor communicator.

I have no idea how old MBR is, but I would wager kinda young. I've been in a similar situation. I do something, wind up in a jam, try to do something else to try to get out of the jam, it blows up in my face and I panic. From the sounds of it, thats exactly what happened with MBR.

Some of you have never been faced with his situation, or anything remotely like it. I have. It sucks, royally, but I bet/hope he learns from it. He is going to have to work hard to rebuild any kind of rep here to sell again, but I implore ya'll to see this for what it appears to be- a giant cluster F that I believe no one wanted to happen, not an intentional act to try to scam someone or screw someone out of money. If that's what he really wanted to do, he would have let his paypal account go, and never posted here again. I think that alone shows that he is trying to do the right thing.


MBR- from now on, be honest dude, take it from someone with ALOT of experience in the dishonest department- it takes ALOT less energy to be honest and upfront. It might hurt for a little bit, but trust me, it's alot less painful than the alternative. If you screw up- OWN UP TO IT ASAP, people are usually willing to work with you if you are open and honest. I'll still stick up for you cause I have been there, and for some stupid reason have faith in people still. Do what's right, as quick as possible, and keep your word.

Also, if anyone wants to buy something MBR has for sale, and is iffy, I'm happy to be a middle man free of charge to see that no one gets screwed.


Essentially, unless there is news, why dont we let this thing drop a bit?

You should all just suck it up, enough is enough. Hes apologized, admitted he was wrong, and is going to refund any one by the 17th. Hopefully no one ends up getting ripped off in the end, but there is nothing you can do except wait until the 17th. In the meantime let the buyer and seller communicate via email and PMs, and lets let this thread bury itself. We get the point, hes had a rough time and the sales didnt go smoothly. So sthu, and wait for your refund (even if it is a drawn out wait for it until the 17th)

[albinoAZN]

Some of you have never been faced with his situation, or anything remotely like it. I have. It sucks, royally
Amen. I can vouch for you on that MBR.

[alecxx]

I know... 1% of it is the buyer's fault, the other 99% is mine, I'm serious.

Yes, I should've done what you did for the buyer, that's what should be done in all situations like that.


Friday, June 6... Sorry I didn't tell you, but I didn't think you'd understand. I know I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I deserve it.

ok, since we waited for 10days...I suppose we can wait other 5 days...but PLS DON'T disappoint us...
We're giving u a chance...

[Chimpy]

You should all just suck it up, enough is enough. Hes apologized, admitted he was wrong, and is going to refund any one by the 17th. Hopefully no one ends up getting ripped off in the end, but there is nothing you can do except wait until the 17th. In the meantime let the buyer and seller communicate via email and PMs, and lets let this thread bury itself. We get the point, hes had a rough time and the sales didnt go smoothly. So sthu, and wait for your refund (even if it is a drawn out wait for it until the 17th)

See, I disagree with this attitude. It's this kind of thinking that lets scammers get away with scamming multiple people. This is a community, and if people don't speak up and let the dirty laundry be aired then more people might be lured in by dishonest people due to others silence.

Yes, he admitted he was wrong, and yes, he apologized, but NO, he has not yet righted ANY of the wrongs, and this is over far too long a period.

And no, I haven't been in the same situation, and you know why? Because I act honestly and fairly. Why anyone would defend this person and act like he should be cut any slack is beyond me.

[xboxer75010]

ok, since we waited for 10days...I suppose we can wait other 5 days...but PLS DON'T disappoint us...
We're giving u a chance...

Even if you started a disputer via Paypal, the seller has 20 days to either provide tracking info or provide a refund (unless the seller of the buyer decides to escalate it prior to this), if neither happens then it gets automatically escalated to Paypal and from there I think it can take up to 30 days for them to review the case and make a decision, and if you did a charge back to your card it can take up to 75 days for them to resolve it.

I know but cause I just had to open a dispute for non-receipt, and I called them up to see what was better for me. Well I hope everything turns out well.



Most disputes are resolved through open communication but, unfortunately, that is not always the case.

If a dispute is escalated to a claim, a Claim Resolution Specialist will use the messages you and the buyer exchanged during the dispute along with other information to decide the outcome of the case. You can respond to requests for information from PayPal and track the progress of a claim in the Resolution Center.

Your options for resolving a claim will vary depending on the type of claim the buyer has filed. Options may include:

* Offering the buyer a full or partial refund
* Providing a refund if the buyer returns the item to you
* Providing information to dispute the merits of the claim

Once a claim is filed, you and the buyer will be subject to specific deadlines for responding with information so that PayPal can make every effort to resolve the matter within 30 days.

[jeremy.king]

And I'm probably never going to sell anything on the marketplace here again after this...

You shouldn't be allowed to...Next time just borrow money from your friends or parents, instead of the MR community.

And who knows what else I shipped late??

WTF? You know exactly what has and hasn't shipped (late or not)...

[MacBooksRock]

You shouldn't be allowed to...Next time just borrow money from your friends or parents, instead of the MR community.


:rolleyes:

I didn't "borrow" from the MR community, I sold MY stuff, b/c I needed the money...

You should have read my explanation...

Also, bamaworks, please check your PMs. :)

[cmm]

I shipped them via USPS Media Mail. Can take 7-14 business days. My earlier explanation was true.

This is true although I think you're full of BS. I waited a month for media mail to get to my house - it was postmarked 28 days prior. (It was a book through Amazon.com used marketplace - didn't have much value to me, the book was a cent, the shipping was $3.99)

I still think you're lying; I wish the mods would give out your IP address, and the sellers would join together and file criminal or civil - whichever is more appropriate, I am not a lawyer - charges against you.

Your story would actually have one ounce of a distant cousin of truth to it if _ONE_ person's item showed up in the mail. But instead, they haven't, and you continue to backtrack about shipping dates, whether you shipped it or not, etc, etc.

You keep changing your story trying to appeal to people's emotions more and more as people call out your BS in hopes of saving your skin. You took advantage of far too many people, and you deserve a lot more than being kicked off these forums.

[iToaster]

Your story would actually have one ounce of a distant cousin of truth to it if _ONE_ person's item showed up in the mail. But instead, they haven't, and you continue to backtrack about shipping dates, whether you shipped it or not, etc, etc.

My Power Mac from MBR should be here tomorrow (or so says DHL's tracker), I'll post pictures for you guys when it gets here.

[techlover828]

This is true although I think you're full of BS. I waited a month for media mail to get to my house - it was postmarked 28 days prior. (It was a book through Amazon.com used marketplace - didn't have much value to me, the book was a cent, the shipping was $3.99)

I still think you're lying; I wish the mods would give out your IP address, and the sellers would join together and file criminal or civil - whichever is more appropriate, I am not a lawyer - charges against you.

Your story would actually have one ounce of a distant cousin of truth to it if _ONE_ person's item showed up in the mail. But instead, they haven't, and you continue to backtrack about shipping dates, whether you shipped it or not, etc, etc.

You keep changing your story trying to appeal to people's emotions more and more as people call out your BS in hopes of saving your skin. You took advantage of far too many people, and you deserve a lot more than being kicked off these forums.

Why not just let paypal handle it. It's not like he killed someone, at the very least wait until tuesday...

[alecxx]

come on guys....let's give him a chance!

tuesday it's close...

[bamaworks]

My Power Mac from MBR should be here tomorrow (or so says DHL's tracker), I'll post pictures for you guys when it gets here.

Same for my Powerbook (UPS).

I doubt he'd send us both computers and not refund you guys on the 17th.

[alecxx]

let's cross fingers..

[cmm]

come on guys....let's give him a chance!

tuesday it's close...

In all due respect - and you were scammed - you were given more than enough chances. There are two people that I detest: liars and thieves. You have the right to be pissed and you have expressed that, as have I.

I do hope you get your computer or your money. Preferably your computer.

[davedecay]

How did the iPod nano I bought ship out? It's been 9 days.

[alecxx]

In all due respect - and you were scammed - you were given more than enough chances. There are two people that I detest: liars and thieves. You have the right to be pissed and you have expressed that, as have I.

I do hope you get your computer or your money. Preferably your computer.


obviously...this is THE VERY LAST CHANCE i give him....now everything's in his hands..

Ps i claimed for money

[cmm]

Did you get your money back? I don't know much about Paypal. If I do a transaction, it's either Google Checkout (if I'm buying) or US Postal Money Order (because it become a federal crime if they forge it or whatnot) - if I'm selling.

[iToaster]

Power Mac G4 MDD received! In great condition, runs well, exactly as described, and it came with all original items and original box. Thanks MBR, I trust you.

[bamaworks]

Posting from the powerbook right now.... received today.

[MacDann]

Great! I'm wondering when the iPod that shipped the 29th - I mean the 6th - will show up....

MacDann

[ivnds]

I never noticed all these problems with MacbookRocks, I bought a 4gb ipod nano from him on the 30th, still not here, shipped media mail aswell, since some of you received your things i'm just posting this as a warning that actions will be taken if the item doesn't arrive soon. Other buyers who's items haven't arrived, let me know how the communication process is going.
thanks

[SFStateStudent]

shipped media mail aswell

OMG! Media mail is the cheapest form of USPS shipping, and normally can take 2-3 weeks depending on the originating address and the destination address. :eek:

[MacDann]

OMG! Media mail is the cheapest form of USPS shipping, and normally can take 2-3 weeks depending on the originating address and the destination address. :eek:

True, but how does that account for the iPod I was "shipped" on 5/29 and again on 6/6, both times purportedly using USPS Priority Mail?

I have received my PayPal refund, however, I would rather have gotten the iPod.

And as far as I'm concerned, MBR has still not told the truth.

MacDann

[iBecks]

See, I disagree with this attitude. It's this kind of thinking that lets scammers get away with scamming multiple people. This is a community, and if people don't speak up and let the dirty laundry be aired then more people might be lured in by dishonest people due to others silence.

Yes, he admitted he was wrong, and yes, he apologized, but NO, he has not yet righted ANY of the wrongs, and this is over far too long a period.

And no, I haven't been in the same situation, and you know why? Because I act honestly and fairly. Why anyone would defend this person and act like he should be cut any slack is beyond me.

here here, 100% agree, MacBooksRock should be banned from MacRumours - once this has all been sorted out.

[iMpathetic]

here here, 100% agree, MacBooksRock should be banned from MacRumours - once this has all been sorted out.

I think he should be placed under some sort of a temporary ban -- at least he's making a serious effort to sort this all out.

[Blue Velvet]

MacBooksRock should be banned from MacRumours - once this has all been sorted out.

I think he should be placed under some sort of a temporary ban


We're in touch with this situation, are well aware of what's going on and who is involved. Posts from others that are not directly connected with all of these transactions aren't really productive at the moment, and calls for bans at this stage aren't going to help anyone at this point in time.

So, let's leave it to all the involved parties while we monitor the situation, and let the admins and mods discuss all the ins and outs, and the information we have, and make the right decisions in the long run without firing up the lynch mob.

[techlover828]

We're in touch with this situation, are well aware of what's going on and who is involved. Posts from others that are not directly connected with all of these transactions aren't really productive at the moment, and calls for bans at this stage aren't going to help anyone at this point in time.

So, let's leave it to all the involved parties while we monitor the situation, and let the admins and mods discuss all the ins and outs, and the information we have, and make the right decisions in the long run without firing up the lynch mob.

at least wait till tomorrow, still haven't gotten mine btw.

[Applepi]

Yup, been 3 weeks now and still no sign of anything in the mail and no communication from the seller. All I know is that refund better be waiting for me when I wake tomorrow.

[davedecay]

I never noticed all these problems with MacbookRocks, I bought a 4gb ipod nano from him on the 30th, still not here, shipped media mail aswell, since some of you received your things i'm just posting this as a warning that actions will be taken if the item doesn't arrive soon. Other buyers who's items haven't arrived, let me know how the communication process is going.
thanks

I bought this on June 2nd:

#2 - iPod nano 2GB - White. Works great, except the screen is white, nothing is displayed, can probably be fixed w/ a new LCD. Asking - $20 shipped

Did we all send money for the same item?

[livingfortoday]

I bought this on June 2nd:

#2 - iPod nano 2GB - White. Works great, except the screen is white, nothing is displayed, can probably be fixed w/ a new LCD. Asking - $20 shipped

Did we all send money for the same item?

Well, seeing as the text you quoted says 4GB and you're saying 2GB - I'd say no.

[MacDann]

I think he should be placed under some sort of a temporary ban -- at least he's making a serious effort to sort this all out.

That's questionable at best. Granted, I got my PayPal refund (after filing a claim against him) but he's still adamant that my iPod shipped, now a second time.

I don't want a lynching, I want him to step up and tell the truth.

MacDann

[brobson]

I bought an ipod video about 3 weeks ago and it wasn't here w/in 2 weeks so I contacted him and he refunded me immediately through pay pal.
FYI
Brenda

[techlover828]

I bought an ipod video about 3 weeks ago and it wasn't here w/in 2 weeks so I contacted him and he refunded me immediately through pay pal.
FYI
Brenda

how much stuff did he sell? :confused:

[MacBooksRock]

Refunds sent! :D

[rolex54]

I got mine!
I am glad we were able to settle this....
Thanks

[ivnds]

Refunds sent! :D

No refund on my account...

[MacBooksRock]

Ooh! Sorry, going to refund you now! :)

Edit: Refunded.

I believe everyone is refunded now... LMK if that's incorrect.

[weazbert]

got my refund!

thanks

[techlover828]

I got mine, but am I still expecting an ipod? :confused:

[ivnds]

Got my refund, same question as techlover828, am I still expecting the item? If so, to keep an eye out see if it arrives.

[MacBooksRock]

Yes, you should still expect the item. However, if it arrives. Don't resend payment - for me shipping late, and delaying a week in getting you your refund, you should just keep the items :)

[Eric.]

Yes, you should still expect the item. However, if it arrives. Don't resend payment - for me shipping late, and delaying a week in getting you your refund, you should just keep the items :)

Well I've got to give you a little credit if you are giving the items for free. I think the victims of this should man up and do the same, especially if you are stilling getting an item you were refunded for.

[ivnds]

Well I've got to give you a little credit if you are giving the items for free. I think the victims of this should man up and do the same, especially if you are stilling getting an item you were refunded for.


The items will never arrive, he's trying to get points here. If they had shipped it would be here already. Get got our refunds, we can move on. This thread should be closed.

[Applepi]

MBR - still missing $15 of my refund. Thanks.

[bamaworks]

The items will never arrive, he's trying to get points here. If they had shipped it would be here already. Get got our refunds, we can move on. This thread should be closed.

My item arrived last week, so did another individual who purchased the PowerMac MDD.

[ivnds]

My item arrived last week, so did another individual who purchased the PowerMac MDD.

Did the tracking number you get show some progress? mine is still stuck in "electronic info received" that's why I was concerned about all this.

[bamaworks]

Did the tracking number you get show some progress? mine is still stuck in "electronic info received" that's why I was concerned about all this.

I requested UPS, so yes.

[MacBooksRock]

Applepi, PayPal shows that I refunded the $15 and $50 amounts to your account, are you sure that the other $15 isn't there??

[Applepi]

Applepi, PayPal shows that I refunded the $15 and $50 amounts to your account, are you sure that the other $15 isn't there??

Positive. I only got $50 of it. Remember I used two different cards for payment? One for $50 and one for $15.

[MacBooksRock]

No problem! Screenshots are attached. :)

Also, you opened up two different disputes, and I sent a refund for each... So now they're closed...

[Applepi]

Upon further inspection, it was charged back to my card but has not shown up. So nevermind. Does anyone know if this is instant?

[alecxx]

Paypal states that i got a refund, AS PROMISED, even if it doesn't show up in my CC status online.
But i believe it's normal.

Thnx MBR.

[MacDann]

Did the tracking number you get show some progress? mine is still stuck in "electronic info received" that's why I was concerned about all this.

Mine, too. And then I was told the iPod shipped "again" on 6/6 (the original ship date was 5/29).

Does this mean the iPod never shipped, MBR? Should I still expect it? The last thing you told me was that it shipped on the 6th of June. If you didn't ship it, you need to be honest and say so instead of leading me on.

If it shows up I'll certainly pay for it, as I would rather have the iPod given the choice.

MacDann (still waiting.....)

[ivnds]

Paypal states that i got a refund, AS PROMISED, even if it doesn't show up in my CC status online.
But i believe it's normal.

Thnx MBR.

It will not show up on your CC statements or account online, when you get refunded on paypal, the money stays on paypal, you then have to transfer it back to your account, don't know why it doesn't just go directly back.

[alecxx]

you're worng.
when paid via CC over paypal, the refund goes DirECTLY to the cc...and it takes up to 15 days...

[ivnds]

you're worng.
when paid via CC over paypal, the refund goes DirECTLY to the cc...and it takes up to 15 days...

Oh my bad, I just did it that way and I and transfered the $$ back back to my account, guess it works differently for some types.

[MacDann]

I am curious as to the status of everyone involved in this thread - has everyone received their merchandise and/or refunds?

(I'm still waiting for the iPod that shipped on the 6th of June....)

MacDann

[rolex54]

I got my refund, and that is all I was supposed to get, so overall I am happy it all worked out...