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Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 09:19 AM
So. This is an older shot that i'm thinking of entering into a competition for candid portraits. (and by older I mean, like, two months.)

Any feedback?

(i thought this would be a good way to start photo IV)

Also. if you have any candid shots of people... Share 'em!



Mr. Anderson
Nov 24, 2003, 09:24 AM
great shot moxie....catching the wings open on the homeless guy is great....did it take a lot of tries or did you get lucky?

And how far away were you from the subject?

D

applemacdude
Nov 24, 2003, 09:37 AM
Whats with all these photgraph threads?

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
great shot moxie....catching the wings open on the homeless guy is great....did it take a lot of tries or did you get lucky?

And how far away were you from the subject?

D

I was pretty far away. Shot at 150mm (effectively 225 on the d100).

And yea. I took about 14 shots. i Was at the corner of the street and he was about mid-block. I just dunno how to figure out a distance.

But yea. It was "one of those things" that you just NEED to shoot.

Mr. Anderson
Nov 24, 2003, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by applemacdude
Whats with all these photgraph threads?

they have a tendency to get a little too big and then its image overload...so by splitting them up we don't end up with one thread with many 100s of pics. Easier to go back and find them, too...

Moxie: yeah, I figured you had to be far enough away so you didn't influence the scene. Nice job.

D

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
they have a tendency to get a little too big and then its image overload...so by splitting them up we don't end up with one thread with many 100s of pics. Easier to go back and find them, too...

Moxie: yeah, I figured you had to be far enough away so you didn't influence the scene. Nice job.

D

Thanks. It's one of those shot's i'm proud of not because it's super crisp, or technically perfect but because it does it's job communicating

Blackhawk
Nov 24, 2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
So. This is an older shot that i'm thinking of entering into a competition for candid portraits. (and by older I mean, like, two months.)

Any feedback?

(i thought this would be a good way to start photo IV)

Also. if you have any candid shots of people... Share 'em!

MM. I agree with MR. A that is a great shot, what film speed are you using, and is that a true black & white film your using or is this PS.

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by Blackhawk
MM. I agree with MR. A that is a great shot, what film speed are you using, and is that a true black & white film your using or is this PS.

You guess. :) i'm curious to see what you think.

Blackhawk
Nov 24, 2003, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
You guess. :) i'm curious to see what you think.

MM.
Well if I had to guess, since this is a digital camera you would most likely select the the black & white option on this camera if it has one, if it doesn't it was mostly likely PS, but either way it is hard to tell the difference from a true B&W.

Mr. Anderson
Nov 24, 2003, 10:27 AM
I'm thinking is PS - adjustments,channel mixer - monochrome setting and manually set.

The reason is that if you shoot in B/W you're losing info. Its better to shoot in color and get 24 bits of information and convert to 8 bit B/W in post.

D

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
I'm thinking is PS - adjustments,channel mixer - monochrome setting and manually set.

The reason is that if you shoot in B/W you're losing info. Its better to shoot in color and get 24 bits of information and convert to 8 bit B/W in post.

D

Bingo. Precisely why DSLRs don't have a BW option. You just shooot in 16bit RAW mode, pick a channl (rgb) and adjust levels of that channel for contrast.

I shot this at ISO800 so i'd have some grain and added a bit with the noise feature in PS once I made the image grayscale (and kept only the color channel i wanted).

If you practice, you can make nice, filmlike, bw's with PS.

Blackhawk
Nov 24, 2003, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Bingo. Precisely why DSLRs don't have a BW option. You just shooot in 16bit RAW mode, pick a channl (rgb) and adjust levels of that channel for contrast.

I shot this at ISO800 so i'd have some grain and added a bit with the noise feature in PS once I made the image grayscale (and kept only the color channel i wanted).

If you practice, you can make nice, filmlike, bw's with PS.

MM.

I not at that level yet with PS, I'm stiil in the newbie stage as I've just begun to use this application. It is great though to see what can be accomplished with this app. as evident from this photography forum.

gwuMACaddict
Nov 24, 2003, 11:21 AM
orchid... taken at smithsonian

gwuMACaddict
Nov 24, 2003, 11:24 AM
nfl kickoff live concert in washington dc

gwuMACaddict
Nov 24, 2003, 11:26 AM
washington national cathedral

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Blackhawk
MM.

I not at that level yet with PS, I'm stiil in the newbie stage as I've just begun to use this application. It is great though to see what can be accomplished with this app. as evident from this photography forum.

Feel free to hit me up if you need any phootshop advice. been using it for YEARS now.

(since version 2.0)

:D

m

tazo
Nov 24, 2003, 11:52 AM
can we all decide on an arbitrary number to start a new photography thread at? much easier...

nice pic mike...

btw mike, clear out ur pm box! ;)

shadowfax
Nov 24, 2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Feel free to hit me up if you need any phootshop advice. been using it for YEARS now.

(since version 2.0)

:D

m i'll take you up on that. macbandit or somebody had said that there is an option in photoshop to rotate an image based on a line on the image that you define--in other words, you can draw a line that is not level in the image (that you want to be level), and it will rotate the image properly to make it level. do you know how to do this?

Rower_CPU
Nov 24, 2003, 11:59 AM
Use the measure tool (under the eyedropper) and drag along a line you know should be straight vertically or horizontally in the shot (building, tree, road, etc).

Then go to Image>Rotate canvas>Arbitrary... The angle value from the measure tool will be there for you, so all you have to do is click OK.

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by shadowfax
i'll take you up on that. macbandit or somebody had said that there is an option in photoshop to rotate an image based on a line on the image that you define--in other words, you can draw a line that is not level in the image (that you want to be level), and it will rotate the image properly to make it level. do you know how to do this?

indeed.

There's a ruler tool. (measure. buried in the toolbox above the magnify glass. accessed by pressing shift+i until the ruler comes up)

You want to select that, and "measure" the line that's not straight.

Say it's off 3 degrees.

Then you go to image-> rotate canvas -> arbitrary.

It'll take that measurements invers (in his case -3 degrees) and rotate the image. Voila!

shadowfax
Nov 24, 2003, 12:04 PM
boy, you kids really are eager beavers when is comes to giving out PS advice, eh?

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by shadowfax
boy, you kids really are eager beavers when is comes to giving out PS advice, eh?

haha. yes that came in stereo. ;)

eyelikeart
Nov 24, 2003, 12:13 PM
That really is a great shot there moxie. It's already been said, but that bird makes it I feel. ;)

gwuMACaddict...u got some nice ones here yourself. I love DC, and it's so nice to see what u are posting. Makes me wish I was back there. :)

gwuMACaddict
Nov 24, 2003, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by eyelikeart

gwuMACaddict...u got some nice ones here yourself. I love DC, and it's so nice to see what u are posting. Makes me wish I was back there. :)

thanks... dc lends itself really well to photography. if anyone has any suggestions i would love to hear them... always trying to improve...

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by gwuMACaddict
thanks... dc lends itself really well to photography.

provided you don't use a tripod. :rolleyes:

right mr. a?

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Actually..what's funny about long expsoures... The Canon might have slightly less noise than the Nikon on long exposures. But the Canon, in the weekened I had it, refused to focus in low light.

This is a widespread problem with the 10d (which i should post a review of...).

I took the 10d and the D100 to a club to take shots of the band. 90% of the photos from the canon were out of focus, or back focused.

If you read through forums, you'll see the same thing. That said, the stuff taken with the Nikon was 100% perfect. And really... the noise levels at ISO1600 were a coin toss. It's so close it's not even funny.

That said...when shooting static objects (say, a church) the Canon would only focus at ISO800 or higher.

The D100 could focus at ISO200, which yielded a cleaner shot.

So the noise issue is one thing, but combine it with AF systems, and whatnot, and things get interesting.

Then add that the Canon didn't wanna seem to work with the medium range Canon lenses that I had bought... and that the Nikon achieves stellar results with the mid rang lenses... it kinda makes me wonder why all the fuss about Canon.

I love their P&S line (and was looking at the 4mp Elph for a carry around) but I was totally not impressed with 10d.

Though I did kinda like the feel of it... there was a controll wheel that reminded me of the 1g iPod.... which was nice.

But yea. Interesting hearing the comparisons between the two. I still think the d100 is the more versatile of the two.

(i could go in a rant about the software that comes with the canon....)


The tests at www.DPReview.com show the 10D doing excellent in low light with the AF-Assist beam. Though it did say the focus indicator lights were confusing and that they came on early. Some of the primary good points they go on to remark about is it's ability to focus quickly and it's low light ability.

I know personally what it's like to lose or get bad photos because of the camera. There are very few things in the world more frustrating. That said I just have to ask are you sure you had the 10D and not the D60 which had a notoriously bad AF? Maybe you had a bad camera or the settings were wrong or something. I'm sorry you had a bad experience. It just seems odd that so many people swear by this camera and some of them doing a lot of low light photography.

Shooting a high ISO number is a nice ability but in way can fill the ability of getting a nice 5 minute exposure at a lower ISO number.

Mr. Anderson
Nov 24, 2003, 12:22 PM
gmuMacAddict - I'm going to go and find some of my own DC shots :D

Nice stuff

D

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Zync
I agree...I need to go look at them...I was reading up on the two...I wish I could buy one sooner than I will be able to...that is if I want to go to NC at all this summer....I plan to bike some of the Blue Ridge Parkway with my gf, my friend, and his gf...should prove fun...

Just think of it this way. When you can afford the camera most likely they will have a new version or revision out with more features and less bugs. Also biking the Blue Ridge is not something that you want to do with a $1,500 camera in tow. A small compact 3.2MP or 4MP will get all the great shots you want without the stress of trying to protect it.

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
The tests at www.DPReview.com show the 10D doing excellent in low light with the AF-Assist beam. Though it did say the focus indicator lights were confusing and that they came on early. Some of the primary good points they go on to remark about is it's ability to focus quickly and it's low light ability.

I know personally what it's like to lose or get bad photos because of the camera. There are very few things in the world more frustrating. That said I just have to ask are you sure you had the 10D and not the D60 which had a notoriously bad AF? Maybe you had a bad camera or the settings were wrong or something. I'm sorry you had a bad experience. It just seems odd that so many people swear by this camera and some of them doing a lot of low light photography.

Shooting a high ISO number is a nice ability but in way can fill the ability of getting a nice 5 minute exposure at a lower ISO number.

I actually had 3 10d's.

It's well known that phil at dpreview is paid by canon. He's canon sponsored, etc.

But yea. I've shot with the d60, the 10d, and the 300d and all are nice. but the d60 and 10d had HORRID problems focusing in low light.

I know a few others who are returning 10ds for the same reason. Also backfocusing is a BIG BIG BIG issue on the 10d. It seems like Canon rushes product to market alot of the time.

Shooting a high ISO vs. shooting a long exposure is gonna yield the same result. One is allowing more light to hit the CCD, the other is cranking up the sensitivity of the CCD to light. Inversely proportional.

I'm not saying the 10d is bad. I'm saying it's not as good as the measurebators think. I'm talking REAL world testing, not shooting a bunch of brick walls and grey walls.

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
....................Also. if you have any candid shots of people... Share 'em!

I know I have posted this somewhere here before but it's been a while and it is a candid photo.

http://homepage.mac.com/louiskst/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-01-03%2008.32.53%20-0800/Image2001-05-02_48.jpg

gwuMACaddict
Nov 24, 2003, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
provided you don't use a tripod. :rolleyes:

right mr. a?

maybe this is an inside joke...? none of my shots used a tripod, makes it alot easir to get around and compose shots. although i love the bogen tripod head that looks like a fighter pilot grip, adjustable in all 3 planes. no pun intended...

gwuMACaddict
Nov 24, 2003, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
gmuMacAddict - I'm going to go and find some of my own DC shots :D

Nice stuff

D

thanks- definitely get out and shoot in the city- esp at night.

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 12:34 PM
Okay I here's a nature photo to help balance out all the urban photos popping up.

This is of Bobby Lake near Waldo Lake in Oregon. I took it on the first night of a backpacking trip we took to it. I believe it was a 10sec exposure.

http://homepage.mac.com/louiskst/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-11-12%2015.50.56%20-0800/Image-7E426985156A11D8.jpg

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 12:35 PM
Mr. Anderson,

The next time "re-thread" could you post a link to the previous forum? I think it'll aid in continuity yet also keep each thread seperate. It's annoying to reply to the last page because the new one has been set up and the BB service doesn't follow the thread so you can't quote people easily. It would be a big help to do this. I meant to mention this earlier...I still have to go back and find Photography I :)

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Actually..what's funny about long expsoures... The Canon might have slightly less noise than the Nikon on long exposures. But the Canon, in the weekened I had it, refused to focus in low light.

This is a widespread problem with the 10d (which i should post a review of...).

I took the 10d and the D100 to a club to take shots of the band. 90% of the photos from the canon were out of focus, or back focused.

If you read through forums, you'll see the same thing. That said, the stuff taken with the Nikon was 100% perfect. And really... the noise levels at ISO1600 were a coin toss. It's so close it's not even funny.

That said...when shooting static objects (say, a church) the Canon would only focus at ISO800 or higher.

The D100 could focus at ISO200, which yielded a cleaner shot.

So the noise issue is one thing, but combine it with AF systems, and whatnot, and things get interesting.

Then add that the Canon didn't wanna seem to work with the medium range Canon lenses that I had bought... and that the Nikon achieves stellar results with the mid rang lenses... it kinda makes me wonder why all the fuss about Canon.

I love their P&S line (and was looking at the 4mp Elph for a carry around) but I was totally not impressed with 10d.

Though I did kinda like the feel of it... there was a controll wheel that reminded me of the 1g iPod.... which was nice.

But yea. Interesting hearing the comparisons between the two. I still think the d100 is the more versatile of the two.

(i could go in a rant about the software that comes with the canon....)

Hmmm...interesting...what firmware did it have? They might've updated...I know they've released 2.0....you should get the S400(4MP ELPH)...that's where all of my images have been taken with....the quality is amazing...prints 8x10s like nothing...and that's after an edit in Photoshop (reducing quality further with another JPEG save)....my only two complaints (minor)....no ability to save lossless formats or raw and no ability to manually change the aperture (maybe they'll release a firmware to do this? should be able to since the camera's able to control it though I'm doubtful because the A line ships with it)....

Originally posted by Moxiemike
So. This is an older shot that i'm thinking of entering into a competition for candid portraits. (and by older I mean, like, two months.)

Any feedback?

(i thought this would be a good way to start photo IV)

Also. if you have any candid shots of people... Share 'em!

That's a great picture...what's best about it though is that the guy looks like Santa....the bird flying is neat...I like it...makes me want to go and photograph people :)

edit: typo

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
I actually had 3 10d's.

It's well known that phil at dpreview is paid by canon. He's canon sponsored, etc.

But yea. I've shot with the d60, the 10d, and the 300d and all are nice. but the d60 and 10d had HORRID problems focusing in low light.

I know a few others who are returning 10ds for the same reason. Also backfocusing is a BIG BIG BIG issue on the 10d. It seems like Canon rushes product to market alot of the time.

Shooting a high ISO vs. shooting a long exposure is gonna yield the same result. One is allowing more light to hit the CCD, the other is cranking up the sensitivity of the CCD to light. Inversely proportional.

I'm not saying the 10d is bad. I'm saying it's not as good as the measurebators think. I'm talking REAL world testing, not shooting a bunch of brick walls and grey walls.

Thanks for the info. If and when I'm going to get one I'll definitely take them both for a test drive and stress the points that you and others are having problems with.

I have never seen or had a high ISO come out as smooth and grain free as a long exposure.

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
I'm thinking is PS - adjustments,channel mixer - monochrome setting and manually set.

The reason is that if you shoot in B/W you're losing info. Its better to shoot in color and get 24 bits of information and convert to 8 bit B/W in post.

D

Definitely, besides what if you decide you wanted color later on for some reason? You're screwed....

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by gwuMACaddict
nfl kickoff live concert in washington dc

That is a great sky...do you have any images of just the sky from the same night?

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Thanks for the info. If and when I'm going to get one I'll definitely take them both for a test drive and stress the points that you and others are having problems with.

I have never seen or had a high ISO come out as smooth and grain free as a long exposure.

Here's an ISO 1250 shot from the d100.

With flash, so it was about... 1/15s

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by tazo
can we all decide on an arbitrary number to start a new photography thread at? much easier...

Yeah I wondered why we restarted on 11....it's not even EVEN!!!! :D

eyelikeart
Nov 24, 2003, 12:45 PM
here's a buddy of mine...playing the role of drunkie... :D

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 12:46 PM
Here's a 100% crop of a 13 second exposure, ISO 200 from the D100

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 12:52 PM
image didn't work. :(

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Just think of it this way. When you can afford the camera most likely they will have a new version or revision out with more features and less bugs. Also biking the Blue Ridge is not something that you want to do with a $1,500 camera in tow. A small compact 3.2MP or 4MP will get all the great shots you want without the stress of trying to protect it.

LOL...yeah I was thinking of that...but in either case I'm going to do it with an AE-1...I will definitely keep it safe...don't worry...I'm practically OC about taking care of my stuff....I was thinking the same exact thing about waiting to get the camera :)....I'll probably start thinking about it with the fall semester's money...probably split it between fall and spring...maybe not...I may just buy it with the fall semester, though usually I use some of it to pay car insurance :( so it may have to wait....my friend is starting up a company and I might be the CMO as he says, Chief Marketing Officer, whether or not that actual acronym exists I have no idea lol....but hey, he's been pretty profitable with what he's done...this may be the catapult for me to open up my design firm and get a nice digital SLR...I'm going to look into getting a business license (I'll incorporate later, when there's an actual chance of liability :))...I'd like to move into NC and set it up there like the guy did from elfincreative.com did...though he went somewhere else...I was also thinking somewhere around Seattle...but since I'm living mostly from paycheck to paycheck and scholarship to scholarship I think that extreme may not happen....I'd really like to go somewhere in South Tampa...maybe Hyde Park (where the first fountain came from)...I don't know...but they aren't options at this point....sorry for the way too long reply :)

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
image didn't work. :(

Unfortunately as you know due to the different subject matter its difficult to determine the better low light photograph though I would have to say it was the last photo. Though if you need to get a moving shot in low light the high ISO ability would definitely be a god send.

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
I know I have posted this somewhere here before but it's been a while and it is a candid photo.

I love the lighting and the subject! That's a Target lamp isn't it :)

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by zync
I love the lighting and the subject! That's a Target lamp isn't it :)

Good call. He (the rabbit) despises that lamp. When you use the pull chain it rings the lamp as it hits it. He hates that. I'm sure it hurts his ears.

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by gwuMACaddict
maybe this is an inside joke...? none of my shots used a tripod, makes it alot easir to get around and compose shots. although i love the bogen tripod head that looks like a fighter pilot grip, adjustable in all 3 planes. no pun intended...

My friend's tripod is like that...I really want it...it's made of Ti and it's incredibly light and small yet it stays incredibly light and get's incredibly tall...he said it's one of the most compact yet tallest when open and one of the lightest...it was like $110 methinks...I can't remember who makes it but the thing is awesome...the only qualm about it is that the head doesn't screw in with a seperate plate you know...like most pro-ish tripods... you have to unlock it and rotate the whole head to screw it in...instead of leaving it stationary and screwing the plate of the head into it....if you understood what I just said I commend you :)

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Unfortunately as you know due to the different subject matter its difficult to determine the better low light photograph though I would have to say it was the last photo. Though if you need to get a moving shot in low light the high ISO ability would definitely be a god send.

Right. it's 6 in one hand, half dozen in the other. But a good DSLR gives you the option of shooting high ISOs without the photo becoming a impressionistic painting.

The D100 at ISo 1250 outperforms (IMHO) every DSLR (save for the Pentax) in it's class.

The 10d, the 300d, the S2 and the Sigmas i think are all outperformed by the D100. It's just the most flexible cam on the market under $1500

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Okay I here's a nature photo to help balance out all the urban photos popping up.

This is of Bobby Lake near Waldo Lake in Oregon. I took it on the first night of a backpacking trip we took to it. I believe it was a 10sec exposure.

I like the angle and the lighting from the moon on the lake it looks really neat...luckily there must have been wind, it adds a lot more interest to the water than if it had been calm....I'm sorry I think my mall expedition started the resurgence of the urban pictures....oh well, you have plenty of nature to balance us, and I have plenty of urban...well kind of :)

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Thanks for the info. If and when I'm going to get one I'll definitely take them both for a test drive and stress the points that you and others are having problems with.

I have never seen or had a high ISO come out as smooth and grain free as a long exposure.

yeah but the problem with digitals is the compounded effect of long exposures getting noise as well as grain from the ISO....Canon's DIGIC chip reduces noise for exposures longer than 2 seconds, at least on my camera...I try to shoot as low an ISO as possible...I do however find it funny that my S400 has a lower ISO setting than the 10D....I can get 50...though it's 100 is probably as grain free as my 50:)

Mr. Anderson
Nov 24, 2003, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by gwuMACaddict
maybe this is an inside joke...? none of my shots used a tripod, makes it alot easir to get around and compose shots. although i love the bogen tripod head that looks like a fighter pilot grip, adjustable in all 3 planes. no pun intended...

you can actually get your equipment confiscated and get fined if you use a tripod to take pictures of the gov't buildings/property in DC.

Moxie, Eye, Evo and myself found out the hard way. But a little fast talking, a fountain and a kewpie doll got us out of it ;)

D

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Good call. He (the rabbit) despises that lamp. When you use the pull chain it rings the lamp as it hits it. He hates that. I'm sure it hurts his ears.

See this is what Target has done to me...I've zoned the lamps so much that I know a Target lamp when I see one...I'll probably zone them today...and tomorrow (if no one takes my damn shift)....and on and on until I have redemption from that place :D

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by zync
I like the angle and the lighting from the moon on the lake it looks really neat...luckily there must have been wind, it adds a lot more interest to the water than if it had been calm....I'm sorry I think my mall expedition started the resurgence of the urban pictures....oh well, you have plenty of nature to balance us, and I have plenty of urban...well kind of :)

Wind? Wind you say? Hahahaha. If you go to my homepage and find that camping trip you will see that I named that camp site Windy Camp. It blew non stop all night and all day at I'm guessing about 15MPH. It really sucked. Or is that blew? In any case we moved camp because of it.

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
you can actually get your equipment confiscated and get fined if you use a tripod to take pictures of the gov't buildings/property in DC.

Moxie, Eye, Evo and myself found out the hard way. But a little fast talking, a fountain and a kewpie doll got us out of it ;)

D

That seems like and interesting event! BTW, what's a kewpie doll?

Here's something I did after using the channel mixer (I've never used it before but it's cool...I used to just desaturate and use levels)...it's the different angle of the emergency call "box" that I said my friend had also shot something similar to...he'll probably not post for a while so I'll post it now in B&W...when he posts his I guess I'll post the color version unless there's a demand somehow...

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Wind? Wind you say? Hahahaha. If you go to my homepage and find that camping trip you will see that I named that camp site Windy Camp. It blew non stop all night and all day at I'm guessing about 15MPH. It really sucked. Or is that blew? In any case we moved camp because of it.

Geez :) That's kinda funny though...

Well I think I'll be off to photograph more...I'll see you guys :) after I get back from work :(

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 01:27 PM
Did someone say nature?

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 01:32 PM
or nature perhaps?

wdlove
Nov 24, 2003, 01:33 PM
Very nice Moxiemike, now we can wonder which is really up! Those are very nice shades of blue. Nature is finite afterall. Where was that taken?

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by zync
yeah but the problem with digitals is the compounded effect of long exposures getting noise as well as grain from the ISO....Canon's DIGIC chip reduces noise for exposures longer than 2 seconds, at least on my camera...I try to shoot as low an ISO as possible...I do however find it funny that my S400 has a lower ISO setting than the 10D....I can get 50...though it's 100 is probably as grain free as my 50:)

what's funny is the whole DIG!C system of canon's is essentially "dark framing"

On older DSLRs, you cam would take a pic, and then do a second exposure, all black, that would then become a "subtraction frame" to rid the final shot of noise. Both would be composited together, and voila!

Clean image.

Funny that that's essentially what the DIG!C is. Most every Digicam comes with some sort of marketing bells and whistles noise reduction something or other :D

sethypoo
Nov 24, 2003, 01:37 PM
Can someone tell me where the cheapest place is to purchase Photoshop, be it via an online store or a physical location?

Thanks!:)

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
Very nice Moxiemike, now we can wonder which is really up! Those are very nice shades of blue. Nature is finite afterall. Where was that taken?

It was taken at this place called "livermore" in WPA. And old town that was flooded over by Army Corps of Engineers to help divert flood waters.

All done after the infamous johnstown floods from the 30's (i think).

But yea. There's supposedly a sunken town beneath the train bridge I stood on to take that shot. :D

eyelikeart
Nov 24, 2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Moxie, Eye, Evo and myself found out the hard way. But a little fast talking, a fountain and a kewpie doll got us out of it ;)

hehe...yeah...

If caught anywhere on Capital Hill with a tripod, u will be subjected to what they call a "Field Interview." ;)

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
what's funny is the whole DIG!C system of canon's is essentially "dark framing"

On older DSLRs, you cam would take a pic, and then do a second exposure, all black, that would then become a "subtraction frame" to rid the final shot of noise. Both would be composited together, and voila!

Clean image.

Funny that that's essentially what the DIG!C is. Most every Digicam comes with some sort of marketing bells and whistles noise reduction something or other :D

Actually the dark framing system is what Nikon uses. The Cannon does on the fly filtering without a dark frame capture afterwards.

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Actually the dark framing system is what Nikon uses. The Cannon does on the fly filtering without a dark frame capture afterwards.

Are you sure? There's still a Noise Reduction pause after exposures of 2 seconds on the 10d

Just like the Nikon. OR is Digic something else?

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Are you sure? There's still a Noise Reduction pause after exposures of 2 seconds on the 10d

Just like the Nikon. OR is Digic something else?

Yes. The pause is just the Canon processing all the data. Depending on the photo you are taking in some cases the photo will be done immediately and others will take longer to process.

sethypoo
Nov 24, 2003, 01:56 PM
What is the difference between Photoshop CS and 2.0? Where is the cheapest place to get the better of the two?

Blackhawk
Nov 24, 2003, 01:57 PM
One with a little of both ( Nature & Architecture )

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by sethypoo
What is the difference between Photoshop CS and 2.0? Where is the cheapest place to get the better of the two?

You must be referring to Photoshop Elements 2.0? Elements is basically exactly the same as Photoshop but is lacking a few professional level tools. The simple rule is if you have to ask what the difference is you probably don't need the full version of Photoshop.

shadowfax
Nov 24, 2003, 02:40 PM
do you guys have some euro photos? i'd kinda like to see some of the stuff you've shot in some european cities and so on, if you have any...

Shifty
Nov 24, 2003, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Did someone say nature?

That's a beauty! I've made that as my desktop background.

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by Shifty
That's a beauty! I've made that as my desktop background.

Let me know if you want one at a bigger resolution.

m

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Did someone say nature?

I believe I posted this in a previous photo thread but it seemed like a nice parralel to your lake shot.

Here are 4 photos from Bobby Lake during the day.

http://homepage.mac.com/louiskst/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-11-12%2015.50.56%20-0800/Image-7E42B6C0156A11D8.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/louiskst/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-11-12%2015.50.56%20-0800/Image-7E43B7ED156A11D8.jpg

The wind finally died down.

http://homepage.mac.com/louiskst/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-11-12%2015.50.56%20-0800/Image-7E438D45156A11D8.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/louiskst/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-11-12%2015.50.56%20-0800/Image-7E4397AA156A11D8.jpg

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Actually the dark framing system is what Nikon uses. The Cannon does on the fly filtering without a dark frame capture afterwards.

Guess I get to be back a little bit before work :)

Anyway, that's the impression I got from using my camera....besides, Mike, that time I wasn't talking about DLSRs....I was talking about my S400 :D

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Yes. The pause is just the Canon processing all the data. Depending on the photo you are taking in some cases the photo will be done immediately and others will take longer to process.

Yep, that's the one thing I hate about digital cameras....you can really miss a shot right afterwards if it's processing data...believe me...I've missed so many beautiful streaks of lightning....they used to always occur right when the shot was processing...oh well...it's the price you pay for the price of not developing the film :) that was a joke, I think :p

gwuMACaddict
Nov 24, 2003, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by zync
That is a great sky...do you have any images of just the sky from the same night?

nah... sorry- it was a great sky that night. you'd be surprised how many pretty sunsets we have around the city... great concert too. i wasn't really concentrating on the sky, i wanted to get people and the monument in the picture that day

gwuMACaddict
Nov 24, 2003, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by zync
the only qualm about it is that the head doesn't screw in with a seperate plate you know...like most pro-ish tripods... you have to unlock it and rotate the whole head to screw it in...instead of leaving it stationary and screwing the plate of the head into it....if you understood what I just said I commend you :)

yup- this is the same way his works... a little anoying, but worth it to me to get the 3 planes of on the fly adjustment

shadowfax
Nov 24, 2003, 03:46 PM
you uncultured swine! NO ONE has any good pics from europe?

pivo6
Nov 24, 2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
or nature perhaps?

Here's one that I took around the 4th of July. I was going to post a pic of our recent snowstorm that happened over the weekend, but I was too busy shoveling.

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
I believe I posted this in a previous photo thread but it seemed like a nice parralel to your lake shot.

Here are 4 photos from Bobby Lake during the day.

See, it'll stop being windy sometimes :)

This reminds me of a project I'm working on...there's a building being constructed at school and everyday I walk past I take a picture of it from the same location...I'm going to try to make a video out of the shots in after effects as a pseudo time-lapse....I don't really care if it's jumpy or whatever because I think I'm going to add it to this clip: mannequin (http://helios.acomp.usf.edu/~clay4/movies/mannequin(HQ).mov) as part of a Ring-ish movie....I have to make it much freakier obviously....and actually I have to redo most of it anyway because I made the mistake of not considering pixel aspect ratio when making a widescreen aspect ratio movie...as a result the movie isn't wide like it's supposed to be...

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by gwuMACaddict
yup- this is the same way his works... a little anoying, but worth it to me to get the 3 planes of on the fly adjustment

Yep....that's one of the major reasons I like it :D

gwuMACaddict
Nov 24, 2003, 03:56 PM
more nature....
more cherry blossoms

gwuMACaddict
Nov 24, 2003, 03:56 PM
one more at the wall... one of my favorite places to shoot in dc

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by gwuMACaddict
nah... sorry- it was a great sky that night. you'd be surprised how many pretty sunsets we have around the city... great concert too. i wasn't really concentrating on the sky, i wanted to get people and the monument in the picture that day

I figured on both, because of the event :) Someone I know goes to college there...well he's a friend's cousin....anyway we get a bunch here (Sunshine State so I guess that's obvious) but I usually don't have my camera at those times for som reason...I don't take it to work and the twilight hour I usually leave there makes beautiful skies which are never that nice at home because the wetlands behind my house obscures what's left when I get home...

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by pivo6
Here's one that I took around the 4th of July. I was going to post a pic of our recent snowstorm that happened over the weekend, but I was too busy shoveling.

Very nice.

zync
Nov 24, 2003, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by gwuMACaddict
one more at the wall... one of my favorite places to shoot in dc

That is a very beautiful yet ugly place...I'll have to go there one day...

gwuMACaddict
Nov 24, 2003, 04:48 PM
bishops garden, national cathedral in dc

gwuMACaddict
Nov 24, 2003, 04:48 PM
another orchid, taken at the smithsonian

Blackhawk
Nov 24, 2003, 05:01 PM
Here is one after our recent snow fall in the Serria Mountains

Geetar
Nov 24, 2003, 05:04 PM
Just got back from the Margaret Bourke-White exhibition at the Ringling Museum in Sarasota. Excellent and highly recommended, especially for fans of the 20's and 30's. She helped establish the "Machine Age" aesthetic- think the look of Fritz Lang's "Metropolis" and you'll have the right idea.

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by zync
Yep, that's the one thing I hate about digital cameras....you can really miss a shot right afterwards if it's processing data...believe me...I've missed so many beautiful streaks of lightning....they used to always occur right when the shot was processing...oh well...it's the price you pay for the price of not developing the film :) that was a joke, I think :p

There is no wait on the high end digitals when just taking photos. No time lag to speak of on pressing the button to the time it snaps the photo and no time lag between that and being able to take another photo.

The only real time lag you will get is when doing a long exposure time which is what I was referring to. Say a couple minutes plus.

MacBandit
Nov 24, 2003, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by zync
Guess I get to be back a little bit before work :)

Anyway, that's the impression I got from using my camera....besides, Mike, that time I wasn't talking about DLSRs....I was talking about my S400 :D

Our Canons my S230 and your S400 do not have any sort of built in noise filter. That's a digital SLR or other high end digital camera feature. Our cameras are just point and shoot cameras. Though you know as well as I do you can get some great photos with what they do offer in the way of settings.

One huge advantage all SLRs have over our cameras is the size of the lens. The larger the lens the sharper the image is going to be. This is because one it's gathering more light meaning you can run a lower ISO number. Second if there is a spec of dirt or a defect in the lens it only occupies a tiny tiny portion of the lens where as on our little cameras a little dirt on the lens makes a huge difference.

MacMumm
Nov 24, 2003, 09:08 PM
I will have to jump on the MacBandit bandwagon, and post some more scenery! :)

This is the top of Salt Creek Falls, I thought it would be interesting to show the top creek, before and after it begins 'falling'

MacMumm
Nov 24, 2003, 09:09 PM
This is just another of the many Proxy Falls shots I have...

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 09:52 PM
I took this one about 20 minutes ago, in sub-freezing temps and forgot my gloves. :D

but it was worth it. :D

http://mikemancini.com/DSC_5592.jpg

tazo
Nov 24, 2003, 09:56 PM
:coughcoughweeklyassignment@fredmiranda;)coughcough

:D

i like it...

eyelikeart
Nov 24, 2003, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
I took this one about 20 minutes ago, in sub-freezing temps and forgot my gloves. :D

but it was worth it. :D


I'd say. ;)

That's beautiful man. Did u duotone it?

Moxiemike
Nov 24, 2003, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
I'd say. ;)

That's beautiful man. Did u duotone it?

nope. 99% true, right from the cam. lightened a bit in Nikon Capture but aside from that... :D

eyelikeart
Nov 24, 2003, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
nope. 99% true, right from the cam. lightened a bit in Nikon Capture but aside from that... :D

that's nuts man...

good work son...good work... ;)

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
There is no wait on the high end digitals when just taking photos. No time lag to speak of on pressing the button to the time it snaps the photo and no time lag between that and being able to take another photo.

The only real time lag you will get is when doing a long exposure time which is what I was referring to. Say a couple minutes plus.

Yeah that happens on mine too, that's what I was referring to as well :) Geez though, a couple of minutes...wow....that's gotta be annoying...

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Our Canons my S230 and your S400 do not have any sort of built in noise filter. That's a digital SLR or other high end digital camera feature. Our cameras are just point and shoot cameras. Though you know as well as I do you can get some great photos with what they do offer in the way of settings.

One huge advantage all SLRs have over our cameras is the size of the lens. The larger the lens the sharper the image is going to be. This is because one it's gathering more light meaning you can run a lower ISO number. Second if there is a spec of dirt or a defect in the lens it only occupies a tiny tiny portion of the lens where as on our little cameras a little dirt on the lens makes a huge difference.

All very true...except mine does have a noise filter...it talks about it in the manual as well, not just on the website...it has DiG!C....I think it was the first one to have it of the EPLHs but I'm not sure at all on that....I am positive on the noise reduction though...

MacBandit
Nov 25, 2003, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by zync
Yeah that happens on mine too, that's what I was referring to as well :) Geez though, a couple of minutes...wow....that's gotta be annoying...


Hahaha, we keep crossing wires. I meant on a high end DSLR you will get a time lag if you do a 2-3minute exposure while it processes after that. If you are doing say a 30sec to 1 minute exposure the resulting lag afterwards will be minimal.

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Our Canons my S230 and your S400 do not have any sort of built in noise filter. That's a digital SLR or other high end digital camera feature. Our cameras are just point and shoot cameras. Though you know as well as I do you can get some great photos with what they do offer in the way of settings.

One huge advantage all SLRs have over our cameras is the size of the lens. The larger the lens the sharper the image is going to be. This is because one it's gathering more light meaning you can run a lower ISO number. Second if there is a spec of dirt or a defect in the lens it only occupies a tiny tiny portion of the lens where as on our little cameras a little dirt on the lens makes a huge difference.

Oh and I meant DSLRs :) and yeah I don't like the tiny lens deal...especially since it distorts a whole lot more because it's a wide angle in a small lens....

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Hahaha, we keep crossing wires. I meant on a high end DSLR you will get a time lag if you do a 2-3minute exposure while it processes after that. If you are doing say a 30sec to 1 minute exposure the resulting lag afterwards will be minimal.

I know you meant DSLRs :) I was just suprised on the length of time it would take, but then again larger image resolution combined with longer exposure dictates that it should take longer than my 4mp and a max of 15 seconds....

MacBandit
Nov 25, 2003, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by zync
All very true...except mine does have a noise filter...it talks about it in the manual as well, not just on the website...it has DiG!C....I think it was the first one to have it of the EPLHs but I'm not sure at all on that....I am positive on the noise reduction though...

That's very cool. My S230 does not have one. I was looking for an example in my photos but I can't seem to find one at the moment. Oh, well it does get fairly grainy though on extended shots especially when you are shooting a large solid colored object like the side of a house. Which is typical.

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Hahaha, we keep crossing wires. I meant on a high end DSLR you will get a time lag if you do a 2-3minute exposure while it processes after that. If you are doing say a 30sec to 1 minute exposure the resulting lag afterwards will be minimal.

BTW, what camera can do over 30 seconds? I've only seen 30 seconds on the 10D, I think it was slightly less on the D100 (I think)....I'd like to know since it may be important since I use low ISOs to keep the noise down in the first place, though it'd probably be worth it to just shoot higher ISO because of the noise generated anyway....

MacBandit
Nov 25, 2003, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by zync
Oh and I meant DSLRs :) and yeah I don't like the tiny lens deal...especially since it distorts a whole lot more because it's a wide angle in a small lens....

You can minimize the distortion by zooming in a little bit.

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
That's very cool. My S230 does not have one. I was looking for an example in my photos but I can't seem to find one at the moment. Oh, well it does get fairly grainy though on extended shots especially when you are shooting a large solid colored object like the side of a house. Which is typical.

Oh, don't get me wrong, the S400 has it but it's not that incredible, though I don't really know what it looks like otherwise...it's probably horrendous :)

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
You can minimize the distortion by zooming in a little bit.

True. I didn't think of that :)

MacBandit
Nov 25, 2003, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by MacMumm
I will have to jump on the MacBandit bandwagon, and post some more scenery! :)

This is the top of Salt Creek Falls, I thought it would be interesting to show the top creek, before and after it begins 'falling'

That's a nice zoom lens you were using.

I didn't realize how annoying this tree was at the time of shooting this.

http://homepage.mac.com/louiskst/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-01-25%2008.27.37%20-0800/ImageSalt%20Creek%20Panorama%203.jpg

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Hahaha, we keep crossing wires. I meant on a high end DSLR you will get a time lag if you do a 2-3minute exposure while it processes after that. If you are doing say a 30sec to 1 minute exposure the resulting lag afterwards will be minimal.

I know you meant DSLRs :) I was just suprised on the length of time it would take, but then again larger image resolution combined with longer exposure dictates that it should take longer than my 4mp and a max of 15 seconds....

MacBandit
Nov 25, 2003, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by zync
I know you meant DSLRs :) I was just suprised on the length of time it would take, but then again larger image resolution combined with longer exposure dictates that it should take longer than my 4mp and a max of 15 seconds....

We're still crossed up. The times I'm quoting are for the length of the exposure not for the length of the wait afterwards for processing.

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 01:05 AM
MacMumm, that is such a beautiful waterfall....I used to have a puzzle with a picture of a waterfall that yours reminds me of....right now I'm working on a puzzle of another waterfall that I'm going to turn into a 3D piece by setting all the different parts of the puzzle at different heights...I'm going to try to make it extend like maybe 6" - 12"....I have to see what it's like as I go...I'll probably photograph it when it's finished :)

Mike, that picture is really surreal...the sky is indeterminable yet the cathedral is super detailed...what did you shoot that on? great picture!

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
We're still crossed up. The times I'm quoting are for the length of the exposure not for the length of the wait afterwards for processing.

I see...I missed that from the way I read it...(I've had like 8-10 hours of sleep in the last 3 days :))...ok so how long does it normally take with a really long exposure...the way you originally worded it I couldn't tell what you were referring to with "Say a couple minutes plus" because there was no subject or verb :) You and your run-ons :D Anyway a major question: What DSLR will let you take over 30 seconds? (That doesn't cost much more than the 10D) The info on the 10D said you can take up to 30 seconds...could that possibly only be in a semi-manual mode? I would really like a truely manual DSLR, but I doubt they could make it that manual :)

MacBandit
Nov 25, 2003, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by zync
I see...I missed that from the way I read it...(I've had like 8-10 hours of sleep in the last 3 days :))...ok so how long does it normally take with a really long exposure...the way you originally worded it I couldn't tell what you were referring to with "Say a couple minutes plus" because there was no subject or verb :) You and your run-ons :D Anyway a major question: What DSLR will let you take over 30 seconds? (That doesn't cost much more than the 10D) The info on the 10D said you can take up to 30 seconds...could that possibly only be in a semi-manual mode? I would really like a truely manual DSLR, but I doubt they could make it that manual :)

The 10D, D100, and all the other models in that range have a 30 sec timer. Anything longer then that you need a bulb. It's basically a device that holds the shutter open until you release it manually.

Sorry about the run-ons. I try not to use run-ons. Sometimes when you are making a lot of posts run-ons just sort of happen.

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
The 10D, D100, and all the other models in that range have a 30 sec timer. Anything longer then that you need a bulb. It's basically a device that holds the shutter open until you release it manually.

Sorry about the run-ons. I try not to use run-ons. Sometimes when you are making a lot of posts run-ons just sort of happen.

It's ok :) I wasn't really angry at the run-ons :) Anyway, I'll have to look up info on that :)

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 02:16 AM
Wait is that like the B (Bulb) setting on the AE-1? It has that setting? Or would I need a special release for it or something?

MacBandit
Nov 25, 2003, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by zync
Wait is that like the B (Bulb) setting on the AE-1? It has that setting? Or would I need a special release for it or something?

I'm not sure. I'm just technically knowledgeable about this no actual experience.:rolleyes:

I had a shutter lock for my film SLR but haven't played with the feature on a Digital. Typically you will have some sort of remote. That way when you open and close the shutter you don't bump the camera.

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
I'm not sure. I'm just technically knowledgeable about this no actual experience.:rolleyes:

I had a shutter lock for my film SLR but haven't played with the feature on a Digital. Typically you will have some sort of remote. That way when you open and close the shutter you don't bump the camera.

Yeah I'd definitely need a remote...I'm not sure if you'd be able to do it then with a digital, because they don't mention anything about having a B setting...

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 02:56 AM
I was thinking of posting this before...but I now have used the channel mixer and somewhat know what it does exactly :) and so I edited this picture...the edit itself wasn't done with the channel mixer, it was done with an adjustment layer that was done with channel mixer in monochrome....

zync
Nov 25, 2003, 04:04 AM
Meant to post this a little while ago...a rehash of the older one I just came up with about and hour or two ago just before I posted the last picture above...I made it black and white...adjusted it until the contrast was good and the "colors" defined from each other as I wanted and then I sepia toned it....the noise made it look more real I think...I wanted it to look somewhat old...

MacBandit
Nov 25, 2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by zync
Yeah I'd definitely need a remote...I'm not sure if you'd be able to do it then with a digital, because they don't mention anything about having a B setting...

You can use a bulb/shutter lock with the Digital SLRs a I just don't know what other digitals that you can. For example I don't know if your S400 can use some method of locking the shutter open.

Moxiemike
Nov 25, 2003, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
You can use a bulb/shutter lock with the Digital SLRs a I just don't know what other digitals that you can. For example I don't know if your S400 can use some method of locking the shutter open.

check dpreview.com

phil's got stats on everything there

MacBandit
Nov 25, 2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
check dpreview.com

phil's got stats on everything there

Yeah, that's where I learned about the exposure timer limit of 30secs and needing a bulb to do longer exposures.

wdlove
Nov 25, 2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
That's a nice zoom lens you were using.

I didn't realize how annoying this tree was at the time of shooting this.

http://homepage.mac.com/louiskst/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-01-25%2008.27.37%20-0800/ImageSalt%20Creek%20Panorama%203.jpg

The water falls is still very beautiful. Thank you for sharing the picture, MacBandit. Where is the water falls located?

Moxiemike
Nov 25, 2003, 12:01 PM
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=48894

Sign up! YOu guys all should anyway, and this gives you a nice reason to... .so I can WIN!


Hehehehe.

MacBandit
Nov 25, 2003, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
The water falls is still very beautiful. Thank you for sharing the picture, MacBandit. Where is the water falls located?

Ah, sorry I didn't include that. It's the same falls that MacMumm put a photo up of. It's Salt Creek falls up Hwy. 58 here in Oregon.

Blackhawk
Nov 25, 2003, 03:01 PM
This is a little off subject, and hopefully this doesn't get me in trouble, but since I've seen some really good stuff posted in this forum I thought I would pass this along.

Popular Photography Magazine ( http://www.popphoto.com/ ) has a photo contest going on ( Absolut Click ) and you could win as a grand prize a Nikon D100 and a trip to Sweden, go check it out.

MacMumm
Nov 26, 2003, 01:15 AM
Just another Seattle shot, but I thought it was fun with the fountain in it...

manitoubalck
Nov 26, 2003, 01:27 AM
I just posted this pic in another thread but I has to go here.

zync
Nov 26, 2003, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by MacMumm
Just another Seattle shot, but I thought it was fun with the fountain in it...

That fountain looks really interesting, do you have any pictures of the whole thing?

Mike, I registered and voted for your pic but I also liked Sharon Lowe's pic....she's currently beating you 22% to 16% :(

MacMumm
Nov 26, 2003, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by zync
That fountain looks really interesting, do you have any pictures of the whole thing?


Here is another photo, showing the entire thing...

zync
Nov 26, 2003, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by MacMumm
Here is another photo, showing the entire thing...

That's a cool fountain...I love minimalist design, when it's neat and innovative that is...hence my iPod, PowerBook, and S400....

MacMumm
Nov 26, 2003, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by zync
That's a cool fountain...I love minimalist design, when it's neat and innovative that is...hence my iPod, PowerBook, and S400....

I think it is a great fountain. Unfortunately, I was in a super hurry while I was there, and didn't have time to take any good photos of it. I agree, the minimalist design is great, very clean lines make it work very well.

MacPulse Zack
Nov 26, 2003, 02:11 AM
http://www.macpulse.com/feodorah.com/FeoFreud.jpg

zync
Nov 26, 2003, 11:45 AM
Wow, no one has said anything since last night? I must be dreaming...that 3 hours of sleep I had after working on my BASIC program for today's class must still be going on....yes I actally have a class in BASIC...it satisfies Gordon Rule for math methinks...I didn't even know that originally....I just found it way late in registration and I needed credits and BASIC is easy so I took it...I had major aggravations with it last night when my prof had given us flawed code....fun, fun, fun :mad: usually I find his errors but that one was so...I'm not even going to talk about it...on a lighter note I shot some shots (at an undesired ISO until I noticed :)) while I drove home last night...hopefully I got something good, but I haven't downloaded them yet :) I'll see you people later...

wdlove
Nov 26, 2003, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by MacPulse Zack
http://www.macpulse.com/feodorah.com/FeoFreud.jpg

That is a great picture. I'm sure that you are very proud of your picture perfect daughter. What is her name? I like the baby blue eyes, thedress color is also one of my favorites.

MacBandit
Nov 26, 2003, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by MacPulse Zack
http://www.macpulse.com/feodorah.com/FeoFreud.jpg

Did you use some sort of filter on this? It has a very soft appearance like photography studios often use.

MacPulse Zack
Nov 26, 2003, 06:12 PM
Thanks for the compliments.... Indeed I am very proud of her :) She's daddy's little girl for sure! LOL Her name is Feodorah, means "Gift of God." We call her Feo for short. If anyone's interested I'll tell the story, but she's a heart surgery survivor. She was born with several severe, life-threatening heart defects and has had 4 surgeries to repair them over her 1.5 years of life. Our little miracle baby :)

The picture was taken with a Kodak CX4300 consumer digital camera, 3MP. The soft focus blur you see is a trick I learned in Photoshop using a combination of layers of Gaussian Blur, layer opacity, and a 'wet edges' eraser to keep the eyes, lips and nose sharper than the rest of the photo. Gives a really neat effect.

-Zack

wdlove
Nov 26, 2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by MacPulse Zack
Thanks for the compliments.... Indeed I am very proud of her :) She's daddy's little girl for sure! LOL Her name is Feodorah, means "Gift of God." We call her Feo for short. If anyone's interested I'll tell the story, but she's a heart surgery survivor. She was born with several severe, life-threatening heart defects and has had 4 surgeries to repair them over her 1.5 years of life. Our little miracle baby :)

The picture was taken with a Kodak CX4300 consumer digital camera, 3MP. The soft focus blur you see is a trick I learned in Photoshop using a combination of layers of Gaussian Blur, layer opacity, and a 'wet edges' eraser to keep the eyes, lips and nose sharper than the rest of the photo. Gives a really neat effect.

-Zack

Being a medical person, I would like to hear the story about Feo. That is such a beautiful name. Sounds like you may have known about her heart problems prior to birth.

tazo
Nov 26, 2003, 06:40 PM
i hope your name selection isnt a joke -- feo means ugly in spanish.

MacMumm
Nov 26, 2003, 06:41 PM
I was out and about today, and thought the shadows on this basketball hoop were interesting...

MacBandit
Nov 26, 2003, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by MacPulse Zack
Thanks for the compliments.... Indeed I am very proud of her :) She's daddy's little girl for sure! LOL Her name is Feodorah, means "Gift of God." We call her Feo for short. If anyone's interested I'll tell the story, but she's a heart surgery survivor. She was born with several severe, life-threatening heart defects and has had 4 surgeries to repair them over her 1.5 years of life. Our little miracle baby :)

The picture was taken with a Kodak CX4300 consumer digital camera, 3MP. The soft focus blur you see is a trick I learned in Photoshop using a combination of layers of Gaussian Blur, layer opacity, and a 'wet edges' eraser to keep the eyes, lips and nose sharper than the rest of the photo. Gives a really neat effect.

-Zack

Where does the name come from? It sounds almost like a Tolkien language.

Also is there a tutorial somewhere on the effect you applied it looks like a nice tool to have in the bag.

wdlove
Nov 26, 2003, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by tazo
i hope your name selection isnt a joke -- feo means ugly in spanish.

Feo is what they are calling her for a nickname. MacPulse Zack said, Her name is Feodorah, means "Gift of God." To me it sounds like sucha pretty name. I imagine tha they researched the name.

eyelikeart
Nov 26, 2003, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by MacMumm
I was out and about today, and thought the shadows on this basketball hoop were interesting...

Very nice. Looks like u caught the warm light of the sunset?

I've been known to shoot a basketball goal or two. ;)

http://eye-creative.com/fotos/image/a_hole_in_one.jpg

tazo
Nov 26, 2003, 10:19 PM
one I took in my friend's mom's garden...dang it takes a long time to get a tripod in exactly the right position for macro :)

http://boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/DSC02699-1.jpg

Hmmmm...breaaaaak :)

zync
Nov 26, 2003, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by tazo
Heres one I took today when I had access to a tripod at a friends house :) Taken with a delayed timer...

and one I took in my friend's mom's garden...dang it takes a long time to get a tripod in exactly the right position for macro :)

Hmmmm...breaaaaak :)

Yes break...BTW it might just be easier to shoot flowers in macro without a tripod...All of my macro shots of flowers are done sans the tripod, especially since I really had to lock the macro-ed focus and use that to pseudo-manually focus...still much much easier than doing all of that with a tripod :)

tazo
Nov 26, 2003, 10:54 PM
i have somewhat shaky hands when I need to keep em from moving ;) so I was just playing around with the tripod. and it was hella hard to get it to just the right height :)

what do you think of the pic itself tho?

Blackhawk
Nov 26, 2003, 11:24 PM
Just one I took the other day.

zync
Nov 26, 2003, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by tazo
i have somewhat shaky hands when I need to keep em from moving ;) so I was just playing around with the tripod. and it was hella hard to get it to just the right height :)

what do you think of the pic itself tho?

I like it...there's good detail in the center of the flower, it seems like there should be a shallower depth of field....maybe darken everything other than the flower just a little bit...

Blackhawk
Nov 26, 2003, 11:37 PM
Took this one on the same day, I got inspired by other macro posts.

MacMumm
Nov 26, 2003, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
Very nice. Looks like u caught the warm light of the sunset?

I've been known to shoot a basketball goal or two. ;)

http://eye-creative.com/fotos/image/a_hole_in_one.jpg

Thanks eye, I did catch it in the warm light of the sunset. I like your black and white.

Here is the other I took, but a much closer shot...

Wardofsky
Nov 27, 2003, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by MacMumm
Thanks eye, I did catch it in the warm light of the sunset. I like your black and white.

Here is the other I took, but a much closer shot...

Wow, that blue is really rich...

tazo
Nov 27, 2003, 12:03 AM
Here is a bit of an edited version of that earlier flower pic.

http://boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/DSC02699-1.jpg

MacMumm
Nov 27, 2003, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by Wardofsky
Wow, that blue is really rich...

Nice shot Wardofsky...what exactly is that a shot of?

Yeah, the sky was really blue here today, which made it much better to shoot photos in. :)

zync
Nov 27, 2003, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by tazo
Here is a bit of an edited version of that earlier flower pic.
OK I like it a lot more now...but I can't tell what you did with it...it looks better than the other one but they're not both on the same page so I can't tell the differences easily...

edit: For some reason it used the older picture not the actual edited one....I guess I just saw it differently both times...but I like what you did to it :)

zync
Nov 27, 2003, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Wardofsky
Wow, that blue is really rich...

That reminds me of a picture my friend got from the same pillar that my 'pipes' were located....your picture is really cool but I, like MacMumm, wonder what it is exactly...

Wardofsky
Nov 27, 2003, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by MacMumm
Nice shot Wardofsky...what exactly is that a shot of?

*Pulls imaginary curtain away*
It's a flood water level indicator, it was near a river...

Can anyone guess this one? ;)

zync
Nov 27, 2003, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by Wardofsky
*Pulls imaginary curtain away*
It's a flood water level indicator, it was near a river...

Can anyone guess this one? ;)

Bank maybe?

tazo
Nov 27, 2003, 12:33 AM
zync, all I did was mask out the areas around the flower [tedious] and desturate those areas. It brings out the bright and beautiful yellow color...

zync
Nov 27, 2003, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by tazo
zync, all I did was mask out the areas around the flower [tedious] and desturate those areas. It brings out the bright and beautiful yellow color...

Yeah I know...the images showed up as the older image for me for some reason...did you just replace the older one with the new one?

edit: oh and yes masking is tedious as hell...i think you've been to my gallery, you've probably seen the images with multiple 'me's....or my Open Letter to Apple concerning the iPod...

Wardofsky
Nov 27, 2003, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by tazo
Here is a bit of an edited version of that earlier flower pic.

Nice "mod" :D

Combining two of my interests perhaps?

zync
Nov 27, 2003, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Wardofsky
Nice "mod" :D

Combining two of my interests perhaps?

That's interesting...you'd probably like coffee paintings...my friend has one, it's really neat...it's like a grayscale ink drawing with a sepia toned look...it's beautiful...

tazo
Nov 27, 2003, 12:47 AM
heh glad ya liked it wardo, zync :) It was actually not that hard, took me around 10 minutes to edit the whole thing...but then i was trying to do as good a job as possible. :) ;)

zync
Nov 27, 2003, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by tazo
heh glad ya liked it wardo, zync :) It was actually not that hard, took me around 10 minutes to edit the whole thing...but then i was trying to do as good a job as possible. :) ;)

It's easier on flowers of course...all the stuff I've usually removed the bg from is people....and when it's me and you have hair like mine, it gets really annoying really quickly :D....I've spent hours on images seperating them from the background, I usually have to want it badly enough to sit there and do it...it takes forever, even with my tablet! Once I didn't notice that I was removing the background from a layer that wouldn't become transparent when erased....it was a major pain...at least I noticed before I got too far :)

MacMumm
Nov 27, 2003, 01:33 AM
I know, I know, another waterfall from me! There is something abou this one that I have always liked...

MacBandit
Nov 27, 2003, 01:39 AM
Does anyone here use any of the online photo storage and processing services like www.ofoto.com , www.snapfish.com , www.shutterfly.com ?

I'm looking for Mac.com alternatives. I have about a year left on my account at this point but I'm running out of space and these services supply unlimited space as long as you purchase photos from the at least every 12 months. Ofoto.com seems to have the least restrictions in that you can store all your photos no matter the size and all you have to do to maintain the account is to make a purchast any purchase once every 12 months. The others seem to have more restrictions about size and time stored and the like but are still a lot better deal then .Mac.

If anyone is currently using these services or knows someone that is please let me know. I would like to know what you think about the service in use. I would also like to see what an actual photo album looks like on these services.

MacBandit
Nov 27, 2003, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by MacMumm
I know, I know, another waterfall from me! There is something abou this one that I have always liked...

Not a great photo but it is interesting all the same. I can see why you like it. Looks like either another Gorge shot or a Silver falls park shot.

Wardofsky
Nov 27, 2003, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Does anyone here use any of the online photo storage and processing services like www.ofoto.com , www.snapfish.com , www.shutterfly.com ?

You might be interested in PhotographyBLOG (http://www.photographyblog.com/), only 5mb space and no printing, but it's a nice small community.

MacBandit
Nov 27, 2003, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by Wardofsky
You might be interested in PhotographyBLOG (http://www.photographyblog.com/), only 5mb space and no printing, but it's a nice small community.

5MB? Is that the total storage capacity? I'm basically just looking for a way of making a a bunch photo galleries and organising my photos on line like my current .Mac page. In fact I would stick with .Mac but I am pushing the 100MB limit as we speak and the photos I have on the site aren't even at their full resolution.

MacPulse Zack
Nov 27, 2003, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Does anyone here use any of the online photo storage and processing services like www.ofoto.com , www.snapfish.com , www.shutterfly.com ?

I can't speak for Shutterfly's storage uses, but their printing quality and service is top notch. Prices aren't bad either.

-Zack

MacMumm
Nov 27, 2003, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Not a great photo but it is interesting all the same. I can see why you like it. Looks like either another Gorge shot or a Silver falls park shot.

I agree, I don't think it is a great photo, but I still like it. It is of Multnomah Falls in che Gorge. I think the reason I like it, is due to the fact I have never seen one from that perspective before.

MacBandit
Nov 27, 2003, 03:23 AM
Originally posted by MacPulse Zack
I can't speak for Shutterfly's storage uses, but their printing quality and service is top notch. Prices aren't bad either.

-Zack

Thanks.

As for storage shutterfly seems to have no limits for size or time.

Moxiemike
Nov 27, 2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by tazo
Here is a bit of an edited version of that earlier flower pic.

http://boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/DSC02699-1.jpg

It's a nice shot, I like the b/w vs color treatment, really brings out the yellow int the flower. I'd like to see you(since you masked the flower) take the background, lighten it more and put some motion blur on it.

That said, I do think that compositionally it's boring. Dead center shots tend to look that way.

You should have offset the flower, or even cropped the flower partially to get a kinda of "swooping" feel....

I did a little PS crop for you as an example. A proper crop can add a lot of motion, and dyamic to a shot. Whereas the composition you chose, the "dead center" thing, is just kinda flat, cliché—it really doesn't represent the motion and beauty of the flower.

tazo
Nov 27, 2003, 12:01 PM
Mike,

usually I am a big proponent of off-center if you look at my gallery, however I usually overlook that when I do macro shots :(

I will try the offcenter approach to macro as well sometime.

Glad to see you liked the masked version a bit..the first version with the color bg was a bit on the boring side :D
--

Macbandit,

Check out crisishost.com! For 2/month, which is MUCH cheaper than .mac or the majority of services, you can get 300mb of disk space, and a good amount of bandwith. I have 3 websites hosted on their servers, and have never had to complain! The guy is great [message him on aim @ slim garbage], or email him at: josh@crisishost.com

He is willing to work with you as much as possible, to get you the best deal for your needs! It doesnt make sense to keep paying 70/yr for 100mbs of space, when for 24.00/year you can get 300.

http://crisishost.com

And no, I don't work for them, I am just an extremely happy customer :)

MacBandit
Nov 27, 2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by tazo
.......Macbandit,

Check out crisishost.com! For 2/month, which is MUCH cheaper than .mac or the majority of services, you can get 300mb of disk space, and as much bandwith as you need. I have 3 websites hosted on their servers, and have never had to complain! The guy is great [message him on aim @ slim garbage], or email him at: josh@crisishost.com

He is willing to work with you as much as possible, to get you the best deal for your needs! It doesnt make sense to keep paying 70/yr for 100mbs of space, when for 24.00/year you can get 300.

http://crisishost.com

And no, I don't work for them, I am just an extremely happy customer :)


Thank you very much. I'll keep them in mind. I think that I'm going to try Shutterfly.com. My reason is that I don't really want to mess around with building html photo galleries at this time. I would rather be able to upload it organize it and have it ready to view. The less time I put into building the site the more I have for viewing, manipulating, and shooting. Also they don't have any size limitations. Also they don't have a time limitation, you don't even have to make a purchase. Finally if someone wants a print they can order one.

I do think I will eventually be hosting a photo site though. I do have the desire to do things with the site that you can only do if you are writing the html. Also it will be good practice for me. For now though it's a way to get by. Maybe I'll do both.

tazo
Nov 27, 2003, 02:06 PM
I dont remember if I ever posted this. But there are so many different textures, and colors, and the emotion in this photo is nice imho.

http://boycottbuymusic.com/photo/entry-DSC02525.jpg

eyelikeart
Nov 27, 2003, 02:48 PM
U did post it.

We should all try not to post the same images over & over here. I feel if it's something u posted a while ago, sure go for it. However, we don't need to see the same thing continuously. ;)

Moxiemike
Nov 27, 2003, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by tazo
I dont remember if I ever posted this. But there are so many different textures, and colors, and the emotion in this photo is nice imho.

http://boycottbuymusic.com/photo/entry-DSC02525.jpg

You really shouldn't comment about the emotions in your photos. :)

Leave that up to the audience. :)

tazo
Nov 27, 2003, 02:57 PM
oh okay Mike ;) Your the audience: what do you think?

eye,

my bad...I dont recall anyone commenting on it...

Moxiemike
Nov 27, 2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by tazo
oh okay Mike ;) Your the audience: what do you think?

eye,

my bad...I dont recall anyone commenting on it...

Ok. I think that the textures are nice. It's a bit underexposed for my taste though. I think properly exposing it would bring out some of the colors in it.

I also think that the blue cast (white balance?) is something that could improve, and thusly bring out more colors.

It's very blue, which leads me to think it's just a very cold, emotionless pic. If that's what you were going for, killer.

If not, I think that if it were white balanced properly, you'd have a warmth that suggested you were inside in a nice warm place on a VERY cold looking day (from the condensation--it suggests extremes in temperature).

MacBandit
Nov 27, 2003, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by tazo
.....my bad...I dont recall anyone commenting on it...


Please don't take this the wrong way but you really shouldn't expect a response to everything you post. It's about the personal rewards of sharing not the about receiving an ego boost.

If you're looking on suggestion on what you could do differently in a photo then state that when you post the photo. Then leave it and see if you get any responses if not don't post a series of posts about how no one cares or you want this or you want that. That makes any response you get to be that much more unhelpful.

Just friendly suggestions. You don't have follow them they're just observations I have made as another MacRumors member.

zync
Nov 27, 2003, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Ok. I think that the textures are nice. It's a bit underexposed for my taste though. I think properly exposing it would bring out some of the colors in it.

I also think that the blue cast (white balance?) is something that could improve, and thusly bring out more colors.

It's very blue, which leads me to think it's just a very cold, emotionless pic. If that's what you were going for, killer.

If not, I think that if it were white balanced properly, you'd have a warmth that suggested you were inside in a nice warm place on a VERY cold looking day (from the condensation--it suggests extremes in temperature).

I actually like his blue cast of the image...BTW tazo, I thought I had commented on it before...I usually try to comment on most every image, as long as I have something to say other than it's great...I try to point out the strenghts and, if there are any, the weaknesses...I'll try to improve on my comments though as in the past they tended to be rather useless (not all but many)...

Keeping in that spirit, Mike, while I did like what you did to tazo's flower (especially offsetting the subject) the motion blur seemed excessive...a little might've been good but I think you did too much, unless you were trying to give the flower some sort of hypnotic look...

edit: Wait, looks more like radial blur....hmmm, you said motion blur :)

Moxiemike
Nov 27, 2003, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by zync
I actually like his blue cast of the image...BTW tazo, I thought I had commented on it before...I usually try to comment on most every image, as long as I have something to say other than it's great...I try to point out the strenghts and, if there are any, the weaknesses...I'll try to improve on my comments though as in the past they tended to be rather useless (not all but many)...

Keeping in that spirit, Mike, while I did like what you did to tazo's flower (especially offsetting the subject) the motion blur seemed excessive...a little might've been good but I think you did too much, unless you were trying to give the flower some sort of hypnotic look...

edit: Wait, looks more like radial blur....hmmm...

Yea. I did radial blur and overdid it just for effect, to show that I did blur what was already a slightly blurred background

zync
Nov 27, 2003, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Yea. I did radial blur and overdid it just for effect, to show that I did blur what was already a slightly blurred background

Ah...I should have figured :)

tazo
Nov 27, 2003, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Ok. I think that the textures are nice. It's a bit underexposed for my taste though. I think properly exposing it would bring out some of the colors in it.

I also think that the blue cast (white balance?) is something that could improve, and thusly bring out more colors.

It's very blue, which leads me to think it's just a very cold, emotionless pic. If that's what you were going for, killer.

If not, I think that if it were white balanced properly, you'd have a warmth that suggested you were inside in a nice warm place on a VERY cold looking day (from the condensation--it suggests extremes in temperature).

nope nope...I was going for the cold killer dreary effect :)

I gotcha macbandit...I need to work on that a lot...

I just got back from the lake, got a few shots to share :)

MacBandit
Nov 27, 2003, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by tazo
I just got back from the lake, got a few shots to share :)

Cool, can't wait to see them.

Which lake did you go to? Green lake?

tazo
Nov 27, 2003, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
Cool, can't wait to see them.

Which lake did you go to? Green lake?

Echo Lake, behind my house :) Green Lake is beautiful but somewhat innaccessible, since you have to take a bus, and then transfer to another.

I got some pretty nice wildlife shots, but I had to leave to go to my moms for the big dinner before I had a chance to upload em :(

Tonight tho, late tonight I will have em all up for your perusal!

You like green lake? Ever walk around there? During the summer my dad and I did a lap around it :) Had a lot of fun :D

zync
Nov 27, 2003, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by tazo
Macbandit,

Check out crisishost.com! For 2/month, which is MUCH cheaper than .mac or the majority of services, you can get 300mb of disk space, and a good amount of bandwith. I have 3 websites hosted on their servers, and have never had to complain! The guy is great [message him on aim @ slim garbage], or email him at: josh@crisishost.com

He is willing to work with you as much as possible, to get you the best deal for your needs! It doesnt make sense to keep paying 70/yr for 100mbs of space, when for 24.00/year you can get 300.

http://crisishost.com

And no, I don't work for them, I am just an extremely happy customer :)

Is your homepage hosted there? I've been looking for a hosting service for 2 sites and I was wondering how fast their sites are served....you seem to enjoy them a lot so I was thinking about going to them...they're extremely cheap, btw the 300MB is $3 now (methinks)....is everything on their features page included? I could really use the phpBB...and mail...

MacBandit
Nov 27, 2003, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by tazo
Echo Lake, behind my house :) Green Lake is beautiful but somewhat innaccessible, since you have to take a bus, and then transfer to another.

I got some pretty nice wildlife shots, but I had to leave to go to my moms for the big dinner before I had a chance to upload em :(

Tonight tho, late tonight I will have em all up for your perusal!

You like green lake? Ever walk around there? During the summer my dad and I did a lap around it :) Had a lot of fun :D

I haven't spent a lot of time at the lake though I have been to it a few times. The old Ride West BMW motorcycle shop use to be a block up the street from it. Just to remind you I spent the last 7 years working at a BMW motorcycle shop. I use to visit Ride West a couple times a year.

tazo
Nov 27, 2003, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by zync
Is your homepage hosted there? I've been looking for a hosting service for 2 sites and I was wondering how fast their sites are served....you seem to enjoy them a lot so I was thinking about going to them...they're extremely cheap, btw the 300MB is $3 now (methinks)....is everything on their features page included? I could really use the phpBB...and mail...

2 of my sites are hosted there...
http://boycottbuymusic.com, and http://photopacifica.com

They are extremely cheap, and if you talk to the guy on aim @ slim garbage, I am sure you can work out any of a number of payment/mb options with him personally. I am extremely satisfied with his service, and his committment to his customers...

Yes, all of the stuff on their features page is included, and works great! I use the password protected directories for a documents folder, that I can access from school for say a word file, or a video file I need! Now I have no need to worry about file security and sanctity. Their mail stuff is fine, although I just have it setup as a catch-all to my other email addresses. The PHPbb works fine, although I never reinstalled it when I switched servers- as I didn't know how! But it should work fine if you know how to install all that jazz :D

I find that site serving speeds are equal to that of any other type/company of hosting, although I can only compare to phpwebhosting.com [10/month] and a boatload of free services.

Having said all that, I wholeheartedly recomment crisishost.com to you for all your serving needs :)

-tazo

Wardofsky
Nov 27, 2003, 10:37 PM
An old one, big cat though...

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 12:29 AM
Here were the the down-at-the-lake pix I promised earlier :)

Below are some cool what I believe to be Geese, or some kind of large bird, and a few random ducks that waited kindly for me on land and in the lake while I took their pictures :)

http://www.boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/image/45.jpg

http://www.boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/image/47.jpg

http://www.boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/image/49.jpg

more to follow

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 12:30 AM
As promised, here are some more wildlife at the lake shots :)

http://www.boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/image/51.jpg

http://www.boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/image/53.jpg


hehe and I call this one "It's ok to be different" :D

http://www.boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/image/55.jpg

shadowfax
Nov 28, 2003, 12:35 AM
you dork, they're canada geese. lol! very pretty, as geese go. if you ask me, anyhow.

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by shadowfax
you dork, they're canada geese. lol! very pretty, as geese go. if you ask me, anyhow.

Well I was pretty sure they were geese, I just didn't know if they were males, and of what variety. Are birds doing their migrating this time of year? Kind of a commute from Canada to Western Washington ;) :D

MacBandit
Nov 28, 2003, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by tazo
Here were the the down-at-the-lake pix I promised earlier :)

.....http://www.boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/image/49.jpg

more to follow

This is definitely the best of bird photos.

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 01:10 AM
heh thanks macbandit :) It almost looks like its craning its neck to look at that rock :)

MacBandit
Nov 28, 2003, 01:13 AM
ATTENTION!!!


Okay now that I have your attention.;) I was just finally able to finish updating my Mac.com homepage with a bunch of photos from this past year. Check it out.

New Additions (http://homepage.mac.com/louiskst/New_Additions/Menu104.html)

eyelikeart
Nov 28, 2003, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by Wardofsky
An old one, big cat though...

hehe...I've liked this one in the past... :D

zync
Nov 28, 2003, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by tazo
heh thanks macbandit :) It almost looks like its craning its neck to look at that rock :)

That is a hilarious picture of the duck BTW...

Wardofsky
Nov 28, 2003, 02:58 AM
I didn't take this one, it's not beautiful, but as the great Henri Cartier-Bresson said, it's the decicive moment that makes a photo...

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 09:50 AM
I think I am gonna go back and reshoot these ducks this weekend, perhaps on a sunnier day. I dont really care for how most of them came out...

Blackhawk
Nov 28, 2003, 10:48 AM
Here is another one I took this week

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 10:49 AM
it looks to be a hair out of focus, but it works with the relaxing image of the flower :) nice work..

Moxiemike
Nov 28, 2003, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by tazo
it looks to be a hair out of focus, but it works with the relaxing image of the flower :) nice work..

No.. It's actually a soft focus look. Which is different than out of focus.

Blackhawk
Nov 28, 2003, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by tazo
it looks to be a hair out of focus, but it works with the relaxing image of the flower :) nice work..

Thanks, I think I was trying to blur the background a little to much, giving it that slightly out of focus look.

Blackhawk
Nov 28, 2003, 10:54 AM
Another one from the same day.

eyelikeart
Nov 28, 2003, 10:55 AM
nice job on that flower...

it's not out of focus...that's intentional... ;)

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
No.. It's actually a soft focus look. Which is different than out of focus.

very true.

I like your second image as well blackhawk :) nice colors.

MacBandit
Nov 28, 2003, 11:07 AM
Yes, very nice flower. The center is in focus and the petals are blurred. Looks wonderful.

MacBandit
Nov 28, 2003, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by tazo
I think I am gonna go back and reshoot these ducks this weekend, perhaps on a sunnier day. I dont really care for how most of them came out...

Remember shoot them off center. The ones that didn't turn out so hot are the ones with the birds centered. Also if you do get them off center try to get the whole bird. You have an excellent on of a Canadian Goose to the left but you cut off his tail feathers. Also try fooling around with the focus point.

Blackhawk
Nov 28, 2003, 11:10 AM
Thanks for the comments, what do you think of this one.

MacBandit
Nov 28, 2003, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Blackhawk
Thanks for the comments, what do you think of this one.

That's very nice do you have a larger one? Say desktop size?

I have a similar photo but with a different feel to it.

Same color of moss and rocks but at speeeedd.

http://homepage.mac.com/louiskst/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-02-11%2023.23.31%20-0800/Image-0E11A6DA3E5A11D7.jpg

Moxiemike
Nov 28, 2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Blackhawk
Thanks for the comments, what do you think of this one.

I like it. But I had some trouble finding the focal point of your composition.

Could just be me.

MacBandit, that blurry thing is KILLER.

iAlan
Nov 28, 2003, 11:23 AM
I am not a photographer, I never owned a camera till a year and a half ago when I bought a digital camera. I used to just buy disposable cameras. Here is a shot from a disposable camera I took about 4 years ago at Odawara Castle in Japan. I just like the colours in it, other than that nothing special. BTW, it features my mum who was over for a holiday. Not bad for a $5 throwaway...the camera, not my mum!!

iAlan
Nov 28, 2003, 11:28 AM
Another disposable camera shot (the disposable camera allowed panarama sized pictures) taken about 6 years ago near Hiroshima. Again, nothing special i just like the bridge!!

MacBandit
Nov 28, 2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
I like it. But I had some trouble finding the focal point of your composition.

Could just be me.

MacBandit, that blurry thing is KILLER.

It's a rock wall in the coast range of Oregon with moss growing on it. We were going by it about about 60MPH. I took about 8 photos before I got the right perspective and framing.

Blackhawk
Nov 28, 2003, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
That's very nice do you have a larger one? Say desktop size?

I have a similar photo but with a different feel to it.

Same color of moss and rocks but at speeeedd.

http://homepage.mac.com/louiskst/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-02-11%2023.23.31%20-0800/Image-0E11A6DA3E5A11D7.jpg

I do, but it seems to lose something in the translation the bigger it is. if you would like it anyway, you can find it here ( http://homepage.mac.com/kissinger/PhotoAlbum3.html )

Blackhawk
Nov 28, 2003, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
I like it. But I had some trouble finding the focal point of your composition.

Could just be me.

MacBandit, that blurry thing is KILLER.

MM. to be honest I was trying to get more of the moss in focus but as you noted it didn't come out looking that way.

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 02:21 PM
Here is a pretty abstract photo I just took...kinda interesting

http://www.boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/image/82.jpg

Moxiemike
Nov 28, 2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by tazo
Here is a pretty abstract photo I just took...kinda interesting

http://www.boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/image/82.jpg

Technically this may be your best photo in terms of composition, lighting and detail.

Good job

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 03:00 PM
Thanks. I like it a lot too ;) I like the way it trails off into the corner :) Also, its the back of a 17" crt monitor ;)

Here is one I just took...Some raspberry candies in a jar :)

http://www.boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/image/79.jpg

eyelikeart
Nov 28, 2003, 03:27 PM
I like the abstract better.

Macros are cool, but they start to become a dime a dozen after a while, unless u get creative with your approach. ;)

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 03:31 PM
yeah...I was just kinda messing around with that candy pic, came out kinda cool :)

Moxiemike
Nov 28, 2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by tazo
Thanks. I like it a lot too ;) I like the way it trails off into the corner :) Also, its the back of a 17" crt monitor ;)

Here is one I just took...Some raspberry candies in a jar :)

http://www.boycottbuymusic.com/photo/gallery/image/79.jpg

Eye is right. A little bit of a boring composition again.

There's not a real focal point in the shot.

It might have been cooler if you emptied out the candies on a table and took a shot with some depth of field tricks--perhaps blurring the ones in the back or something.

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 03:40 PM
that is a good idea, perhaps on a white counter? any other ideas for a recompositiob?

Moxiemike
Nov 28, 2003, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by tazo
that is a good idea, perhaps on a white counter? any other ideas for a recompositiob?

I have tons of other ideas.

How about you try some of your own. :)

eyelikeart
Nov 28, 2003, 03:47 PM
a little diddy...

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
I have tons of other ideas.

How about you try some of your own. :)

thanks, I might want to give that a try some day ;) :rolleyes:

Eye, interesting crop...

wdlove
Nov 28, 2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
a little diddy...

That is very nice eyelikeart. It is a pretty good candy also, used to have it around the holidays.

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
That is very nice eyelikeart. It is a pretty good candy also, used to have it around the holidays.

heh it was my foto! eye was kind of enough to edit it nicely....

Moxiemike
Nov 28, 2003, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by tazo
heh it was my foto! eye was kind of enough to edit it nicely....

Man. You gave that mistake one whole second to live. Johnny on the spot, are ya taz?

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Man. You gave that mistake one whole second to live. Johnny on the spot, are ya taz?

better he know now than go through life wondering who *really* took that horrible foto of a candy dish? :)

Moxiemike
Nov 28, 2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by tazo
better he know now than go through life wondering who *really* took that horrible foto of a candy dish? :)

You think it's horrible?

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 05:28 PM
I think there are ways to improve it. The only thing I like about it is how sticky it looks due to the flash. tantalizing flavor lay only a candy dish away ;)

wdlove
Nov 28, 2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by tazo
heh it was my foto! eye was kind of enough to edit it nicely....

I'm sorry tazo, didn't do it on purpose. I still don't think it is horrible.

Here is somone else's photo of interest. It may be Apple's 1st use of titanium.

http://www.oeyvind.org/gallery/misc_stuffs/CRW_9702

eyelikeart
Nov 28, 2003, 06:06 PM
since we got food on the mind...

Moxiemike
Nov 28, 2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
since we got food on the mind...

now that's a macro!!! hot shot brah!

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 06:20 PM
interesting shot eye...

eyelikeart
Nov 28, 2003, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Moxiemike
now that's a macro!!! hot shot brah!

yum yum cookies!!!

Moxiemike
Nov 28, 2003, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
yum yum cookies!!!

I'd like to see a lil' more depth to those cookies.

Maybe by taking them and stackin' 'em on a plate :D

wdlove
Nov 28, 2003, 07:13 PM
You seem to be trying to make our mouth water with your pictures. You excel in this medium also. A nice golden delicious apple and chocolate chip cookies, they look home made.

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 07:16 PM
oh mah gosh those cookies look good!

eyelikeart
Nov 28, 2003, 07:32 PM
I'd like to have seen more from the cookies also, but it's all I could get from the conditions.

They are homemade though, but were in a tin from someone. Deelish!! :D

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 07:35 PM
it doesnt really matter who made them, but they look absolutely delicious!

Wardofsky
Nov 28, 2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by eyelikeart
since we got food on the mind...

Apples?
Sure, every basket has it's good ones...

http://home.iprimus.com.au/netgainz/post/apple.jpg

That shot was taken at this restaurant;

http://home.iprimus.com.au/netgainz/post/new.jpg

job
Nov 28, 2003, 08:52 PM
hmm....i've got a few pictures i could post, but i'm not sure if this thread is about to be locked and another one started (especially considering the current length of thread.)

tazo
Nov 28, 2003, 08:53 PM
heh job you can post, it will probably be the 5th thread pretty soon, too bad someone else always gets to start it :(

job
Nov 28, 2003, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by tazo
heh job you can post, it will probably be the 5th thread pretty soon, too bad someone else always gets to start it :(

you guys mind if i start it?

i'm not really that great of a photographer, but i've got some nice pictures i'm scanning right now.