What Kind of Car do you drive (post a pic for fun) [Archive]

TEG

Dec 6, 2003, 05:13 PM

I drive a POS Ford Taurus Sedan from 1991. It drives well, but traveling cross-country as I do 4 times a year is quite nerve racking. Also driving in Michigan or Montana, the Spedometer is burried, and I always wonder If I'll blow the engine, but it works, and the best thing, it was FREE. Christmas present from a family friend when I got my job in Portland, ORE. Saving up for a Vibe though, will be at least a year before I can afford one.

BTW, PBG5, nice Aztec in your picture.

The Aztek, the best SUV, and the third ugliest.

wdlove

Dec 6, 2003, 05:14 PM

My wife was thinking about getting the Honda Element. It would have been an ideal car to use for her work as a visiting nurse.

She ended up with a 2004 Volvo S 60 AWD silver. We won it at the WGBH auction. She was the high bidder. The auction car was actually for a regular S 60. They don't usually allow upgrades. Since my wife is a visiting and with our winter weather they felt sorry for her and allowed an upgrade. It is a heavier car and so should be safer and better in the snow.

Vector

Dec 6, 2003, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by wdlove
She ended up with a 2004 Volvo S 60 AWD silver. It is a heavier car and so should be safer and better in the snow.

Not only is it safer because of that, but the AWD will also be very helpful in the snow (although they don't handle as well in good weather).

gwuMACaddict

Dec 6, 2003, 05:43 PM

1987 volvo, 740GLE... many modifications...

for instance; busted door, busted steering wheel, busted radio, busted AC, busted hood, busted trunk, no felt on the roof- just elecrical tape and sheet metal.

and yes, it drives even slower than it sounds...

but it goes from point A to point B... and is VERY recagnizable :D

wdlove

Dec 6, 2003, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by gwuMACaddict
1987 volvo, 740GLE... many modifications...

for instance; busted door, busted steering wheel, busted radio, busted AC, busted hood, busted trunk, no felt on the roof- just elecrical tape and sheet metal.

and yes, it drives even slower than it sounds...

but it goes from point A to point B... and is VERY recagnizable :D

It is nice to hear that a Volvo remains reliable for that length of time. Have you had to do any more than routine maintenance?

My wife loves the car. It was great also during the summer. He said that it drives like a dream. With seats she didn't even feel the driving time.

Powerbook G5

Dec 6, 2003, 08:12 PM

Volvos are possibly even more reliable than Japanese cars. I have friends driving old Volvos from the 70s that are more dependable than cars I've seen from the mid 90s.

And yes, the Aztek is ugly but my parents love it and it actually drives really well on the highway. They loved it so much that my dad traded in his Malibu for a Vibe over the summer.

Roger1

Dec 6, 2003, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by trebblekicked
nice. i've been trying to kill my '96 Saturn for two years now. i can't justify buying a new car until this things kicks it.

Sounds like me. I drive a 93 Villager that runs just good enough to where I don't want to junk it, even though it has about 170,000 miles on it (odometer broke at about 135,000, two years ago).

scem0

Dec 6, 2003, 09:08 PM

Im too lazy to actually take a pic and put it on the system and then resize it etc so here is a pic of the same model of car with the same color:

http://199.239.248.45//images/stk/2003/hn2003civichybrid03.jpg

Honda Civic Hybrid (2001)

scem0

Macmaniac

Dec 6, 2003, 09:47 PM

I'm soon gonna own my dads Volvo 240 Dl, I don't have a pic of my car at the moment but heres one to give you an idea. It has 290,000 miles, heat and air still work, and it has a brand new speaker system.

WorshSean

Dec 7, 2003, 03:30 PM

I knew there had to be SOME Volvo fans in a Mac forum. My family currently owns 5 Volvos. Two 240s, a 940, an 850, and an S70. Volvo's are tremendous cars. We have one with a little under half a mil and another almost at 400k. I just bought a 93 850 with 123,000 miles on it and it runs like a charm. It's quite an upgrade from my old 86 240 with the half mil on it.

I'll try to get a picture of the whole fleet.

firewire2001

Dec 7, 2003, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by OKComputer
I was told by one of my mac hating friends that my car suits me. "I own a terrible computer and thus I own a terrible car" So i wonder if its like the pets look like their owners type thing. Do mac owners tend to buy more design oriented cars ie beetle. So post away kids....

oooh oh me first!

most people dont like the element so much... i dunno. definately not your typical car but a lot of guys have them down here in socal. theyre great beach cars for getting around. i once saw a commercial from the back of an element with a beach in the backround.

its all in the way you look at it i think

MattG

Dec 7, 2003, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by firewire2001
most people dont like the element so much... i dunno. definately not your typical car but a lot of guys have them down here in socal. theyre great beach cars for getting around. i once saw a commercial from the back of an element with a beach in the backround.

its all in the way you look at it i think I just can't get used to the "boxy" looking cars. Especially the Mercedes G500. It's a big box. Not sleak and smooth like a Mercedes should be.

http://homepage.mac.com/mattgudites/macrumors/g500.jpg

*Oh, and it's $73,000.

Wes

Dec 7, 2003, 05:02 PM

http://www.spymac.com/gallery/data/551/27821DSCF0066-med.jpg

1979 Austin Healy Mini 1275 GT
18,000 Miles
Leather Seats, Full wood interior, new exhaust... hmmm what else, speakers in the headrests... other stuff too.

chibianh

Dec 7, 2003, 05:13 PM

here's my car
http://homepage.mac.com/chibianh/.Pictures/ep3/DSCN3114.jpg

etoiles

Dec 7, 2003, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by chibianh
here's my car

cool, that is the japanese version of my car (see previous page) :p

etoiles

Dec 7, 2003, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by Wes

1979 Austin Healy Mini 1275 GT
18,000 Miles
Leather Seats, Full wood interior, new exhaust... hmmm what else, speakers in the headrests... other stuff too.

are you driving around Regents Park or something... ? Crazy Brits ;)

wdlove

Dec 7, 2003, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by MattG
I just can't get used to the "boxy" looking cars. Especially the Mercedes G500. It's a big box. Not sleak and smooth like a Mercedes should be.

http://homepage.mac.com/mattgudites/macrumors/g500.jpg

*Oh, and it's $73,000.

That Mercedes is very intersting. Does look very similar to the Honda Element. Don't think I have seen that particular model before. Is it a new model for 2004?

Vector

Dec 7, 2003, 08:13 PM

leet1

Dec 7, 2003, 08:13 PM

$73,000???? for that pos-looking machine....dang, people waste too much money these days. For $73,000, you could have gotten an m5 or something. I guess with money doesn't always come taste, lol

MattG

Dec 7, 2003, 08:18 PM

This is what *I* want.

http://homepage.mac.com/mattgudites/macrumors/rx8.jpg

Sun Baked

Dec 7, 2003, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by wdlove
That Mercedes is very intersting. Does look very similar to the Honda Element. Don't think I have seen that particular model before. Is it a new model for 2004? Old vehicle that's been aroung along time, imported by a Texas dealership for a decade or more (usually 100k) -- now available for the past couple years as G500s for less than the old used import G320s.

Another Mercedes is offered in the US under different badging (International/Chrysler) see www.sprinter.com

Built in the US at the old International truck plant and shipped out.

They're supposed to be thinking of importing or building the smaller Mercedes van, because the Sprinter is huge.

chibianh

Dec 7, 2003, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by etoiles
cool, that is the japanese version of my car (see previous page) :p

heh.. yeah.. they're direct competitors :P

May I ask what the specs of ur VW are? My Civic has 160hp, 132lb-ft tq (i think) from a naturally aspirated 2.0L I4 engine.

Counterfit

Dec 7, 2003, 08:27 PM

Any one of these: 93 3L V6 Dodge Caravan (with mud flaps!)
93 3.3L V6 (It sounds bigger :D) Olds Cutlass Siera S
94 3.1L V6 Chevy Corsica (my favorite of the three)
And if I bug him enough, my brother lets me practice my clutch work on his 2004 Impreza wagon. That one is a joy to drive, especially in the twisties! :)
As for top speeds,
'van: 92.5 (scary as all ****ing hell!)
GM cars: 105
Subaru: about 45...

MacMumm

Dec 7, 2003, 08:53 PM

My old car is on the right, a 1989 Nissan Sentra, which was a great car. My car now is the 1994 Acura Integra GS-R on the left. I must say the Acura is much more fun to drive than the Sentra!

gwuMACaddict

Dec 7, 2003, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by wdlove
It is nice to hear that a Volvo remains reliable for that length of time. Have you had to do any more than routine maintenance?

nope, but it can be a little pricey... but i beat the #$% out of it. i do environmental work and have to visit wooded sites all the time. i just treat it like a jeep- its got great ground clearence... only been stuck once;)

true777

Dec 7, 2003, 10:35 PM

1997 Suzuki Sidekick, short 2-door, metallic blue with black hard top.
It's just great for parking in San Francisco, since it's so short,
and actually has quite a bit of space since it's high. The rear bench folds down in just 5 seconds creating a large space in the back for those Home Depot trips.

I know everyone thinks it's a ridiculous toy car, but I like it. I sit up high and have a great view of the road (an issue since I'm 5'2") without driving a big polluting colossus I don't need. And no, they don't topple over if you're at all a reasonable driver.

etoiles

Dec 7, 2003, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by chibianh
heh.. yeah.. they're direct competitors :P

May I ask what the specs of ur VW are? My Civic has 160hp, 132lb-ft tq (i think) from a naturally aspirated 2.0L I4 engine.

174hp, 181ft-lbs from a naturally aspirated 2.8 V6 engine :p

Powerbook G5

Dec 8, 2003, 12:38 AM

Mmm...German muscle.

Wes

Dec 8, 2003, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by etoiles
are you driving around Regents Park or something... ? Crazy Brits ;)

Nah, that's Richmond Park, another one in London ;).

groovebuster

Dec 8, 2003, 02:28 AM

Originally posted by Vector
No, it has been around for a couple of years maybe. I know i saw one at my school in late 2002.

FYI, it's an old design from 1979 and still in production with little modifications...

I am driving a FIAT cinquecento. Very small car, but perfect for a big city like Berlin. Have no picture online though...

groovebuster

leet1

Dec 8, 2003, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by groovebuster
FYI, it's an old design from the 80's...

I am driving a FIAT cinquecento. Very small car, but perfect for a big city like Berlin. Have no picture online though...

groovebuster

http://www.axonlease.gr/cinquecento.jpg one your talking about? If so...esh, lol that would make me hate driving lol

groovebuster

Dec 8, 2003, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by leet1
http://www.axonlease.gr/cinquecento.jpg one your talking about? If so...esh, lol that would make me hate driving lol

Dude, you don't know what you are talking about! :cool:

I would hate driving in the city with a bigger car... and on top this little car costs almost nothing and is very fuel efficient.

groovebuster

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by Durandal7
A 1984 Pontiac Fiero with a white Apple logo on the back window ;) dude, sweet. Fiero's are such neat little sports cars. my Grandpa had a black one with real dark tinted windows... that sucker was so cool. he got it brand new and kept it looking that way. till he sold it after getting annoyed with all the recalls they kept doing on it. i remember he once told me about how they took it out driving really fast and used calculations based on how the rpms varied with speed in different gears in order to figure out how fast they could make it go, because the idiots at federal regulation had maxed out the speedometer at 85 mph... heh.

as for me, i drive a black Honda Civic, 1996, automatic :( it's good-looking, in good shape, and all that crap, but i want a standard!

My dad has a Nissan Altima, 1998 i think, also black and in pretty decent shape. he wants to get a new car, and so i am hoping i can get him to trade with me and give the civic to my sister. it's a 5 speed--no V8, but it moves better than my civic, plus you can spin dem tires when you feel especially angry or competitive or whatever :)

leet1

Dec 8, 2003, 03:12 AM

Originally posted by shadowfax
as for me, i drive a black Honda Civic, 1996, automatic :( it's good-looking, in good shape, and all that crap, but i want a standard!

I love manual sports cars(its the only way to go :D ) but why would you want it in a civic? :confused:

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 03:16 AM

Originally posted by wdlove
That Mercedes is very intersting. Does look very similar to the Honda Element. Don't think I have seen that particular model before. Is it a new model for 2004? yeah, that's the classic G-Wagen (as sun baked said)... such a wonderful SUV. it has long been for Europe what the commercial Hummer is here.

it's very shiny and classy, and rugged as hell. it's not supposed to look sleek like a mercedes sports car. it's a "man's outdoor SUV," like the Hummer. its style transcends the contemporary style of the "really big car on high suspension" SUV for a look as classic as the Jeep, Land Rover Defender, or Toyota Land Cruiser (think 1970s).

Don't get me wrong--i like that 450 HP porsche SUV as much as the next guy. hell, it probably beats more than a fair share of sports cars off the line. but it doesn't look nearly as suited to doing real offroad hauling as the G-Wagen.

caveman_uk

Dec 8, 2003, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by leet1
I love manual sports cars(its the only way to go :D ) but why would you want it in a civic? :confused:
Unlike the US, most cars in Europe of all sizes have manual transmission. In fact if you passed your driving test in the UK on an automatic you can then ONLY drive an automatic. You are not qualified to drive a manual. So everyone learns in a manual - which lets you drive both.

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 03:20 AM

Originally posted by leet1
I love manual sports cars(its the only way to go :D ) but why would you want it in a civic? :confused: because it's still a lot of fun. i drive my civic like a sports car--i accelerate quickly, take turns as fast as it can handle, and so on... i just like standards. you don't have to have a sports car to find a use for them. plus, they're better for gas mileage, all around, because the damne gears don't slip.

and of course, not that it's an issue now i am 6 hours away from my family, but "i have a standard" is a perfect excuse to keep people from driving your car, because the people that do know standard are increasingly rare. i had to share my civic with my sister when i got it in the second semester of my senior year. she had it ALL the freaking time, heh. had it been a standard, my sister never would have touched it!

leet1

Dec 8, 2003, 03:23 AM

Originally posted by shadowfax
Don't get me wrong--i like that 450 HP porsche SUV as much as the next guy. hell, it probably beats more than a fair share of sports cars off the line.

@$90,000 that thing only does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds and the quarter in in the high 13's

Terrible, lol

groovebuster

Dec 8, 2003, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by caveman_uk
Unlike the US, most cars in Europe of all sizes have manual transmission. In fact if you passed your driving test in the UK on an automatic you can then ONLY drive an automatic. You are not qualified to drive a manual. So everyone learns in a manual - which lets you drive both.

Same here in Germany! If you do your driving test on an automatic you are not allowed to drive a car with a manual transmission. My wife (she's from Canada) had huge problems to get used to the manual transmissions since she always only drove automatic transmissions in Canada. I had some very "exciting" moments with her in heavy traffic, when she was under stress and screwed up changing gears... So I think this rule makes just sense.

groovebuster

tace

Dec 8, 2003, 07:25 AM

I have a new Turbo Beetle with a white Apple sticker on the side window. The funny thing is that it came with an iPod, which wouldn't play with my old PC, so came the iBook. So that makes me an Apple/VW switcher?

My bug looks a little like this:

http://www.unerco.com/pics/blue_bug.jpg

GroundLoop

Dec 8, 2003, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by scem0
Im too lazy to actually take a pic and put it on the system and then resize it etc so here is a pic of the same model of car with the same color:

http://199.239.248.45//images/stk/2003/hn2003civichybrid03.jpg

Honda Civic Hybrid (2001)

scem0

That is interesting. The honda Civic Hybrid didn't go on sale until the 2003 Model year. I should know, I got one on the day they were introduced.

Hickman

krimson

Dec 8, 2003, 11:16 AM

94 Integra, old pic, but it kinda looks the same ;)

Gymnut

Dec 8, 2003, 12:05 PM

'97 Nissan Maxima. Unfortunately no pic. Think I'll buy a truck my next vehicle purchase. Toting a 7-foot xmas tree atop my car without a roof rack was not fun.

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by leet1
@$90,000 that thing only does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds and the quarter in in the high 13's

Terrible, lol well, for an SUV, that's probably the fastest 0-60 time of any. they have to be heavy and sturdy for off-reoading, at least to some extent. i wasn't expecting it to beat a viper off the line, but it could probably take a mustang or a camaro, for instance. or the lincoln LS, hah.

Mudbug

Dec 8, 2003, 12:36 PM

Here's mine:

not really - I have a '00 dodge intrepid & a '96 caravan

leet1

Dec 8, 2003, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax
well, for an SUV, that's probably the fastest 0-60 time of any. they have to be heavy and sturdy for off-reoading, at least to some extent. i wasn't expecting it to beat a viper off the line, but it could probably take a mustang or a camaro, for instance. or the lincoln LS, hah.

Your right about it being the fastest...atleast thats what google says lol...but I can't believe that. The new f150 lightning is faster than that for 30 grand(new one coming out is going to have 500hp NA!). You think they could make it a little bit faster that 0-60 in 5 seconds for that amount of money, lol. I've seen them on the road. Don't expect that thing to last long off the pavment, lol

Its a bit faster than a mustang GT, but 2002 z28/SS has it beat, lol

That thing just proves that porsche should stick to what its good at, making small fast, great handling cars.

(btw: I'm an SUV hater :p, except for that new infinity suv, very cool looking)

Blackhawk

Dec 8, 2003, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by leet1
Your right about it being the fastest...atleast thats what google says lol...but I can't believe that. The new f150 lightning is faster than that for 30 grand(new one coming out is going to have 500hp NA!). You think they could make it a little bit faster that 0-60 in 5 seconds for that amount of money, lol. I've seen them on the road. Don't expect that thing to last long off the pavment, lol

Its a bit faster than a mustang GT, but 2002 z28/SS has it beat, lol

That thing just proves that porsche should stick to what its good at, making small fast, great handling cars.

(btw: I'm an SUV hater :p, except for that new infinity suv, very cool looking)

Make note that Ford Lightning is SuperCharged to get that 500HP, you can supercharge almost any engine and get alot of horse power, so your comparison isn't valid.

leet1

Dec 8, 2003, 01:24 PM

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by Blackhawk
Make note that Ford Lightning is SuperCharged to get that 500HP, you can supercharge almost any engine and get alot of horse power, so your comparison isn't valid. plus, it's a truck, which is not an SUV by any stretch of the imagination. the back half is uncovered, there are no seats or air conditioning back there... trucks are designed to carry heavy loads, not to BE heavy loads. as such, they don't weigh nearly as much as an SUV on the same wheel base.

leet1

Dec 8, 2003, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax
as such, they don't weigh nearly as much as an SUV on the same wheel base.

Lightning - 4401 lbs

Porsche - 4949 lbs

Not a huge difference in weight there. :D

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by leet1
Lightning - 4401 lbs

Porsche - 4949 lbs

Not a huge difference in weight there. :D are they on the same wheel base? no. what's the time difference off the line? i'll bet you good money that 550 lbs added to the back of that Ford would set it behind the Porsche.

Blackhawk

Dec 8, 2003, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by leet1
The porsche has a turbo...its completely valid...

I wasn't aware of the fact that the SUV was turbo charged.

leet1

Dec 8, 2003, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Blackhawk
I wasn't aware of the fact that the SUV was turbo charged.

We learn something every day :D

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 01:51 PM

hah, i googled that F150 Lightning... my god, and i thought the SUV looked tacky. wow. it's so completely, thoroughly purposeless. lots of HP, though.

i will give you that it's fast and cheaper. it has all of the class of an El Camino, though. $30k is way too much to pay for something that ugly.

again, though, it's not an SUV, but it's got some impressive HP. with that thing, you can beat camaros and mustangs off the line... and have them laugh their asses off at you. but no matter.

leet1

Dec 8, 2003, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax
[B][QUOTE]i will give you that it's fast and cheaper. it has all of the class of an El Camino, though. $30k is way too much to pay for something that ugly.

lol, congratz your a minority in the US :) Most people like the F150(since its the most sold vehicle in America)

you can beat camaros and mustangs off the line... and have them laugh their asses off at you. but no matter.

It will do more than beat them off the line, lol

The 2004 runs a 1/4 in 12.5 :cool:

etoiles

Dec 8, 2003, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by leet1
lol, congratz your a minority in the US :) Most people like the F150(since its the most sold vehicle in America)

...and that makes it good ? Windows is the most sold operating system in America, too ;)

leet1

Dec 8, 2003, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by etoiles
...and that makes it good ? Windows is the most sold operating system in America, too ;)

In this case, yes. lol

yellow

Dec 8, 2003, 02:16 PM

Sweet, I get to be the first person to weigh in with my car:
2002 Jeep Liberty (LE)

Counterfit

Dec 8, 2003, 02:17 PM

From Road & Track: But then he notes that the 444-horsepower Cayenne Turbo has lapped the Nürburgring just as quickly as the Boxster S, yet had just followed an industrial-strength Hummer H1 up a section of steep rock in Utah, the going seemingly slowed only by its high-performance street tires. "The only limit," Wolpert says, "is ground clearance and ramp angles."

Even without special off-road tread, the Cayenne's ground clearance and approach, ramp and departure angles were more than sufficient a few days later on the Corkscrew Gulch Trail and other old mining tracks that climb out of Silverton, Colorado, providing precarious vantages for spectacular views of an alpine environment that includes the dramatically colored Red Mountains.

"This route is moderately difficult to drive because some sections of the road are rough, steep, and narrow, and there are several sharp switchbacks to negotiate," write the authors of 4WD Trails of Southwest Colorado,who rate this trek a 4 on a scale of 1-10. Gravel roads are rated 1; by the time a trail earns a 5, the authors recommend only experienced off-roaders proceed. Not lasting long off-road eh?

leet1

Dec 8, 2003, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Counterfit
From Road & Track: Not lasting long off-road eh?

bleh, I based saying that solely on how it looks. :p Good for it though :D

yellow

Dec 8, 2003, 02:22 PM

How could Porche take such a tight machine and give it such a craptastic name??
This is my Porche SUV.. it's named after a chili pepper. Argh!

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by leet1
lol, congratz your a minority in the US :) Most people like the F150(since its the most sold vehicle in America) that is a HUGE logical error. the F-150 IS NOT the F-150 lightning. very few people buy that "truck" with a car's ground clearance. that thing looks freaking "gangsta." the real F150, the one people actually, you know, buy, is a classy looking pickup, does not have anything near 500 HP, and has a ground clearance that makes it look like a real truck.

counterfit: nice story, man. you get what you pay for, hah. it really doesn't cost much more than the Hummer, after you deck it out.

leet1

Dec 8, 2003, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax
that is a HUGE logical error. the F-150 IS NOT the F-150 lightning. very few people buy that "truck" with a car's ground clearance. that thing looks freaking "gangsta." the real F150, the one people actually, you know, buy, is a classy looking pickup, does not have anything near 500 HP, and has a ground clearance that makes it look like a real truck.

Ah, I gotcha. I like that gngsta look though I guess, lol

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by leet1
Ah, I gotcha. I like that gngsta look though I guess, lol if i were a gangsta, i would drive a black mercedes with totally dark tinting and platinum rims. none of that sports truck crap.

i might could go for a Beemer, heh.

phrancpharmD

Dec 8, 2003, 03:00 PM

i might could go for a Beemer

"Beemers" are BMW motorcycles

"Bimmers" are BMW cars

We have a 2001 BMW 325iT (touring/wagon) and a 2002 VW Passat (1.8L turbo wagon). My only regrets are both are automatics. . .

BMWs by far and away are among the most superb automobiles produced. Truly amazing vehicles.

17in_Macmullet

Dec 8, 2003, 03:21 PM

1972 GMC Sprint. 350 - all edelbrock. 3 on the tree. Not a good car to drive in the winter (fun, but not safe), so I am driving a 71 Volvo station wagon.

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by phrancpharmD
"Beemers" are BMW motorcycles

"Bimmers" are BMW cars

We have a 2001 BMW 325iT (touring/wagon) and a 2002 VW Passat (1.8L turbo wagon). My only regrets are both are automatics. . .

BMWs by far and away are among the most superb automobiles produced. Truly amazing vehicles. i've never heard that. i've never even heard "bimmer." you knew i meant the car, right?

jonnyblobby

Dec 8, 2003, 04:42 PM

I got an Audi A3 1.6 in march (my birthday), but this was a Prezzi from my Local Shopping Centre, won as a Prize (put shopping dockets in a box), but won my my Gran, who didn't like it, so passed it my way. myPod works great through its sound system. And love that silver look.

Edit: Added in wrong car, this is the right one.

http://users.tpg.com.au/thirdman/AUDI-A3-1.6.jpg

Toppa G's

Dec 8, 2003, 04:45 PM

I've got a red '97 Pontiac Grand Am sedan...distinguishing dents on the trunk and front passenger quarter panel...waiting for my mom to get a new car so I can have her platinum-colored Chrysler 300M...a nice ride with all that sunroof and leather and 11 speaker sound goodness...and no dents.

johnny_g

Dec 8, 2003, 04:58 PM

I drive a Mazda 121 Metro, beast of a car, nothing compares to it when looking for an economic car.

bousozoku

Dec 8, 2003, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by jonnyblobby
I got an Audi A3 1.6 in march (my birthday), but this was a Prezzi from my Local Shopping Centre, won as a Prize (put shopping dockets in a box), but won my my Gran, who didn't like it, so passed it my way. myPod works great through its sound system. And love that silver look.

?Please note that this photo is just from Google as I don't have a photo of my actual car on me?

Wow, the A3 looks a lot different than the last one I saw in a magazine. I got this one from Audi's website.

scem0

Dec 8, 2003, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by Brian Hickman
That is interesting. The honda Civic Hybrid didn't go on sale until the 2003 Model year. I should know, I got one on the day they were introduced.

Hickman

shows you how much i know about cars :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;) :p.

Okay, its a 2003 honda civic hybrid.

God... it seems so much older than it is..... :confused:

scem0

job

Dec 8, 2003, 05:33 PM

here's what i'd like to be driving.

0-60 in 3.2 seconds.

http://www2.us.porsche.com/english/usa/carreragt/modelinformation/experience/desktop/bilder/icon1_384x280.jpg

http://www2.us.porsche.com/english/usa/carreragt/modelinformation/experience/desktop/bilder/icon4_384x280.jpg

job

Dec 8, 2003, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by bousozoku
Wow, the A3 looks a lot different than the last one I saw in a magazine. I got this one from Audi's website.

that might be the refreshed a3 for next year, based of the new golf chassis.

Counterfit

Dec 8, 2003, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by johnny_g
I drive a Mazda 121 Metro, beast of a car, nothing compares to it when looking for an economic car. You wish your Mazda looked like that :p

Powerbook G5

Dec 8, 2003, 05:49 PM

I wish my girlfriend looked like that. ;) :D

hulugu

Dec 8, 2003, 05:51 PM

Booo! Those posers suck! Please get a real SUV or get a station-wagon. People spend 70k+ on Hummers and G-Wagens and use them to go shopping, makes my teeth gnash together.
I'm not saying the G-Wagen and Hummers aren't capable, its that 99.99 percent of the people who buy such monstrosities (yeah H2 I'm looking at you) never use them to their potential. They are the classic definition of posers.

I will post a picture if I can find one of mine:
1980 Jeep CJ-7, with soft-top, I-6, 30 inch tires, locking diff; nothing more fun than rock clawing to the top of the red rocks in Sedona with the doors off.

job

Dec 8, 2003, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
I wish my girlfriend looked like that. ;) :D

what, big, red, and wide? :eek:

you my friend, have an odd taste in women. :p

tazo

Dec 8, 2003, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by job
what, big, red, and wide? :eek:

you my friend, have an odd taste in women. :p

Can i start giving out my own award for funniest thing said on this site? Cuz you would be the first to get it ;)

Powerbook G5

Dec 8, 2003, 05:58 PM

Nope--hot, fast, and topless. ;) :D

ejb190

Dec 8, 2003, 06:11 PM

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by hulugu
Booo! Those posers suck! Please get a real SUV or get a station-wagon. People spend 70k+ on Hummers and G-Wagens and use them to go shopping, makes my teeth gnash together.
I'm not saying the G-Wagen and Hummers aren't capable, its that 99.99 percent of the people who buy such monstrosities (yeah H2 I'm looking at you) never use them to their potential. They are the classic definition of posers.

I will post a picture if I can find one of mine:
1980 Jeep CJ-7, with soft-top, I-6, 30 inch tires, locking diff; nothing more fun than rock clawing to the top of the red rocks in Sedona with the doors off.

honestly, it's not that bad to me. the Hummmers and G-Wagens are luxury cars. the people who can afford those are rare indeed, and the fools who can't and do anyway will get what's coming to them. what bothers me is the suburbans, tahoes, explorers, durangoes, and other cheap SUVs that people just use for pleasure driving on the highway, shopping on weekends, and driving to work. that's where the real waste is from. plus, it's a lot more common for people to spend out of their means, fools that they are, on $20-30K SUVs. they don't need that crap, they would be just as well served by a slightly used car that they could pay for up front or within a few months. most people who drive the mid-range and cheap SUVs don't use them to their potential, and they all get crappy fuel efficiency. don't rant about wealthy people who can spend more on a car than you.

60, 72 month car loan => low class financial management.

anyways, that was a tangent. ultimately, it's dumb to diss on a good car because it's often used by senseless people. there's no reason to boo the g-wagen.

judith

Dec 8, 2003, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax

anyways, that was a tangent. ultimately, it's dumb to diss on a good car because it's often used by senseless people. there's no reason to boo the g-wagen.

I agree. All though I don't see the point in purchasing a big beast if it's not practical - sort of like not wanting to get their trucks dirty, seems illogical to me, but peeps with the cash buy whatever they want whether it's practical or not.
I'd own a real Hummer if I could afford it. (all of it: price, maintenance/upkeep, gas, insurance, etc.) And in defense of my gas-guzzling Dodge ram (pg1) I do use the hell out of it; snow, mud, mountain terrain - it's necessary! Maybe a good Subaru next....:)

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by judith
I agree. All though I don't see the point in purchasing a big beast if it's not practical - sort of like not wanting to get their trucks dirty, seems illogical to me, but peeps with the cash buy whatever they want whether it's practical or not.
I'd own a real Hummer if I could afford it. (all of it: price, maintenance/upkeep, gas, insurance, etc.) And in defense of my gas-guzzling Dodge ram (pg1) I do use the hell out of it; snow, mud, mountain terrain - it's necessary! Maybe a good Subaru next....:) nothing wrong with owning something if you use it right.

Mac til death

Dec 8, 2003, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by 17in_Macmullet
1972 GMC Sprint. 350 - all edelbrock. 3 on the tree. Not a good car to drive in the winter (fun, but not safe), so I am driving a 71 Volvo station wagon.

nice pic and nice car, but you might have rather censored the license plate instead of your face if you didn't want people to know who you were... :) I really like that car though... I almost got a '69 Chevelle, but my dad was gay about it... (and then he wanted me to get a '69 Mercury Marauder!!! saying it was a good looking car... It was 20 feet long!!!! PUKE!)

anway, I drive a '99 Dodge Stratus. It gets me there. :)

judith

Dec 8, 2003, 07:43 PM

Anybody gotta 64 Nova? That I'd like to see...yeah babey;)

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 08:03 PM

i've got a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO :D

wdlove

Dec 8, 2003, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
Nope--hot, fast, and topless. ;) :D

Only problem is that you would not want to have here that way out in public. Much better for privacy! ;)

bennyek

Dec 8, 2003, 08:59 PM

I drive a 1965 Ford falcon sprint
Sweet ride on weekends drive to the beach. Otherwise I drive a 2000 ford focus wagon

http://homepage.mac.com/benny_ek/65Falconsprint/PhotoAlbum22.html

judith

Dec 8, 2003, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by bennyek
I drive a 1965 Ford falcon sprint
Sweet ride on weekends drive to the beach.

Love this one - Excellent!:cool:

What's under the hood?

bennyek

Dec 8, 2003, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by judith
Love this one - Excellent!:cool:

What's under the hood?

It's got a 289 v8 4 barrel in there. pretty snappy!!!

Counterfit

Dec 8, 2003, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax
i've got a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO :D Models don't count! If they did, I'd have you beat. Well, in performance, not necessarily in coolness factor though...

judith

Dec 8, 2003, 09:10 PM

Yeah, that's sweet - I'm jealous!;)

shadowfax

Dec 8, 2003, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by Counterfit
Models don't count! If they did, I'd have you beat. Well, in performance, not necessarily in coolness factor though... what, you don't believe i have one of the rarest cars in history??? ;)

3rdpath

Dec 9, 2003, 04:42 PM

well i'm picking up my new car on friday...2004 honda crv-ex. was originally gonna get the honda pilot but just felt too guilty about it's size and marginal gas mileage.

we're gonna get a prius when we sell my wife's accord but that may be a few years down the road.

dang, the practicality of old age....

;)

hulugu

Dec 9, 2003, 05:02 PM

anyways, that was a tangent. ultimately, it's dumb to diss on a good car because it's often used by senseless people. there's no reason to boo the g-wagen.

Sorry, I was being grumpy. But, I still dislike the H2, the G-Wagens, Tahoes, Excursions, etc. because they are such a tremendous waste of gas, steel, and frankly they're dangerous for both occupants and fellow drivers.
I can't really bag on the G-Wagen because the German military uses them and they are very capable vehicles, now on the other hand the H2...
BTW, Judith, you are the perfect example of a GOOD truck/SUV driver, you actually need the thing.
Sorry for the tangent.

There is really a great diversity of cars among MR, plus a few great wishes.

bousozoku

Dec 9, 2003, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by job
that might be the refreshed a3 for next year, based of the new golf chassis.

I think it's more that he had a piccy of a BMW 316i before he changed it. :D

sethypoo

Dec 9, 2003, 05:15 PM

sethypoo

Dec 9, 2003, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by leet1
I love manual sports cars(its the only way to go :D ) but why would you want it in a civic? :confused:

Because a manual in *ANY* car is fun to drive!

sethypoo

Dec 9, 2003, 05:42 PM

While at school, this my ride:
Freshmen can't have cars :(:(

See next post for my ride while I am at home. :) :rolleyes: :D

sethypoo

Dec 9, 2003, 05:43 PM

While at home, this is my ride.
Only difference between the car below and my car at home is that my car is blue. I couldn't find a picture of my car here at school.

It's a 2002 Honda Civic EX Coupe with a sweet manual transmission, for those who don't know.

Greenpants

Dec 9, 2003, 07:17 PM

Here's my '71 Super Beetle

http://www.cardomain.com/id/greenpants

rjrufo

Dec 9, 2003, 07:23 PM

2000 Toyota 4Runner

http://homepage.mac.com/rjrufo/images/toyota.jpg

shadowfax

Dec 9, 2003, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Greenpants
Here's my '71 Super Beetle

you can see the apple logo on the left jägermeister! kickass, hahaha!

smada

Dec 9, 2003, 07:38 PM

A 1989 Mercedes Benz 560 SEC.

http://68.52.107.135/~adamscarroll/emby/emby-Images/5.jpg

http://68.52.107.135/~adamscarroll/emby/emby-Images/26.jpg

http://68.52.107.135/~adamscarroll/images/38.jpg

http://68.52.107.135/~adamscarroll/emby/emby-Images/30.jpg

Best car on the road in my opinion.

shadowfax

Dec 9, 2003, 07:41 PM

isn't that the one they only made for like 2 years... the biggest mercedes engine till they made the 600?

my aunt has a white 560 SL with just 70K miles on it... that thing is so cool. i think it's an 86 or 87.

smada

Dec 9, 2003, 07:51 PM

Nope, they made the 560 from like '86 to '91. Granted it is a pretty massive engine- 5.6 liter V8. You might be thinking of the AMG hammer sec's. They had a 6.0 liter 32 valve dohc V8. Quite the beast.

All the SEC info you could ever need at:
http://www.mbcoupes.com (http://www.mbcoupes.com/w126index.htm)

shadowfax

Dec 9, 2003, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by smada
Nope, they made the 560 from like '86 to '91. Granted it is a pretty massive engine- 5.6 liter V8. You might be thinking of the AMG hammer sec's. They had a 6.0 liter 32 valve dohc V8. Quite the beast.

All the SEC info you could ever need at:
http://www.mbcoupes.com what's the SEC? i was mostly thinking of the SL. my aunt's, as i said, is an SL. maybe they only made the SLs for 2 years.

regardless, they are, i believe, the biggest mercedes engine, barring the 600, which isn't even a V8.

Powerbook G5

Dec 9, 2003, 07:56 PM

It looks like it is in amazing condition.

smada

Dec 9, 2003, 07:58 PM

The SEC is the big coupe based off of the S-Class. The 560-SECs of olden days are equivalent to the CL-600s today. Are you sure about those 600's not being a V8? they'd have to be a V12 then, right?

shadowfax

Dec 9, 2003, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by smada
The SEC is the big coupe based off of the S-Class. The 560-SECs of olden days are equivalent to the CL-600s today. Are you sure about those 600's not being a V8? they'd have to be a V12 then, right? the the mercedes SL600 is a 6 liter V12 engine, yes.

edit: here's a link:
http://www.zrauto.com/zr00m00172.html

jonnytewbad

Dec 9, 2003, 08:34 PM

Over the past year I have grown up in respect to the ride. 71 Ghia in my heart, yet 911 ain't no joke. -Tewbad

Counterfit

Dec 9, 2003, 09:33 PM

mmmmmmm, *drool*

3rdpath

Dec 9, 2003, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax
isn't that the one they only made for like 2 years... the biggest mercedes engine till they made the 600?

i think you're thinking of the mercedes 6.9
not quite sure how many years they made it but it had a huge honking motor...and was a 4 door screamer.

bousozoku

Dec 10, 2003, 12:05 AM

Weren't there two sedans like that?

The 450 SEL 6.3 and the 500 SEL 6.9?

shadowfax

Dec 10, 2003, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by 3rdpath
i think you're thinking of the mercedes 6.9
not quite sure how many years they made it but it had a huge honking motor...and was a 4 door screamer. no, i am sure that my aunt said that her Mercedes was the biggest mercedes did for its class till the 600, and i am sure her car is an SL 560.

2 doors, hard/soft top convertible.

c2kvette

Dec 10, 2003, 12:15 PM

I drive this:
2000 Chevrolet Corvette Coupe

Mudbug

Dec 10, 2003, 01:03 PM

do you have to drive around with it like that? I mean, those panels would get in the way after a while... ;) :o :D

leet1

Dec 10, 2003, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by c2kvette
I drive this:
2000 Chevrolet Corvette Coupe

YES! finally, someone with a corvette! lol

My dad has a 1981 T-top red/red corvette he never drives anymore, but cleans it every weekend. I use to help clean it back when I was a kid. Loved cleaning that car. I LOVE corvettes. You have a great car there man, lol

C6 will be coming out pretty soon; heard its going to be screaming :cool:

neut

Dec 10, 2003, 01:49 PM

1971 Chevelle Malibu 350

this is a pic of someone eles's ride ...mine is really similar...a little more blue, with stock chevy rally wheels and caps (maybe I'll take a pic tonight — as of now it's sitting in my driveway...damn i hate the winter in that thing!):
http://www.organech.com/images/examples/71chevelle.jpg

peace.

MacFan25

Dec 10, 2003, 02:21 PM

I don't own a car yet, (I'm 15), but my mom drives a BMW 328i and my dad drives a Toyota Land Cruiser. Both are nice cars.

I'm not sure what I'm going to get - but I've thought about a used Jetta. I really like the Jettas.

neut

Dec 10, 2003, 03:14 PM

i need a new car too...anyone in the market for a '****in' pretty' chevelle? ...that what it was refered to one time by a WT paserby. it is pretty though...

peace.

btw- im really looking at the element, but im pretty torn. i need a truck like vehical but an SUV type is really what i am looking for...the mitsubishi sport is nice (already own a 99 diamate LS). ???

Cuckoo

Dec 10, 2003, 03:44 PM

I drive a mercedes A... it's a nifty little car, but doesn't quite have the comfort i'd like. Ah well, maybe my next car. Although it's a really safe car.
-sorry bout the promo photo, i don't have a picture of the real thing-

ThomasJefferson

Dec 10, 2003, 04:30 PM

I have you all beat in the corners. But some days I face a bit of an attitude problem. And kicking the wheels does not have the desired effect.

kaosfere

Dec 10, 2003, 04:41 PM

I have a 2001 Nissan Sentra SE, which is essentially the current base SE-R with the old SR20DE motor in it.

Blue, five speed, factory perofmance package, lightly modified -- all go, no show.

kaosfere

Dec 10, 2003, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by MattG
This is what *I* want.

The RX8 is a completely awesome car. I've had the opportunity to flog both it and the 350Z at some length, and I love both. Totally different beasts, though -- the Z is big, brawny, and likes to be slapped around. The 8 is extremely nimble, seems to read your mind, and feels, overall, like a big comfy gokart.

Given the choice, I'd pick the RX8 in a heartbeat, I think, but I certainly wouldn't mind having either.

leet1

Dec 10, 2003, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by kaosfere
Given the choice, I'd pick the RX8 in a heartbeat, I think, but I certainly wouldn't mind having either.

I dont know what car you drove, but the rx8 is slow as **** and overrated in hp(see:recall and buybacks)

kaosfere

Dec 10, 2003, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by leet1
I dont know what car you drove, but the rx8 is slow as **** and overrated in hp(see:recall and buybacks)

Yes, it was overrated in horsepower. But you know what? I don't care. It's not a horsepower car. It would be beaten in a straight line by alot of comparable cars, but its still reasonably quick, and it would dust just about anything within 20k of its price once the going gets twisty.

I don't give a damn about going fast in a straight line. Any idiot can step on a gas pedal and bang off a few shifts in a quarter mile. I want a car that feels like a razor edge through the twisty stuff. Whether or not the RX8 has 240ish or 230ish HP doesn't matter; thats not its ballpark.

It's not all about power, y'know.

leet1

Dec 10, 2003, 04:59 PM

Wonder how a miata compares to it.....

shadowfax

Dec 10, 2003, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by leet1
I dont know what car you drove, but the rx8 is slow as **** and overrated in hp(see:recall and buybacks) he never said it shot off the line like a corvette or anything. it's much smaller, taking a big 5.9 seconds to get to 60... but it's still plenty of car for it's price tag... what can you get them for, now? 29K? a decent new 'vette, for instance, is more along the lines of 40K. again, it's plenty of sports car for the price tag. people who want a car to be something it's not are the ones that bitch about it in the fashion that you have seen and are doing yourself, but there is nothing wrong with that car. it's much more stylish than any current american sports car design except maybe the viper, all of which are getting old in a hurry, and certainly beats the hell out of any american sports car in its price range.

kaosfere tested a car he liked, and no amount of dissing on your part can change that :p

edit: didn't see the last posts, but my comment stands :D

kaosfere

Dec 10, 2003, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by leet1
Wonder how a miata compares to it.....

The Miata? Pshaw.

Haven't you heard? It's slow as **** (http://www.carsdirect.com/research/new_cars/buying_guides/cars/sports) and overrated in horsepower (http://www.mx5club.org.nz/news/mazda_news/010314_2001_horsepower/). Who'd want one of those?

:D

shadowfax

Dec 10, 2003, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by leet1
Wonder how a miata compares to it..... miatas are ugly and convertible... none of that.

this year's model takes almost 8 seconds to get to 60; as is mentioned, the RX8 has a poor straight line acceleration @ 5.9 seconds. 7.8 seconds is .. not as good.

some info on the miata (http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/37678)

RX8 review (http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/37411)

i didn't realize you can get an RX-8 for only about 23-25K. interesting.

leet1

Dec 10, 2003, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax
all of which are getting old in a hurry, and certainly beats the hell out of any american sports car in its price range.

kaosfere tested a car he liked, and no amount of dissing on your part can change that :p

edit: didn't see the last posts, but my comment stands :D

bleh, mustang beats it in speed, with a few mods I bet you could get it to handle like it for that $29,000 , lol

So can the turbo charged neon. :p (which cost less than $21,000)

I like the looks of the rx8 though :cool:

btw, I was just using the miata because he liked the handling and you said he didn't care about speed :D

Powerbook G5

Dec 10, 2003, 05:29 PM

Get a WRX, if you spend money in mods to it up until the $29,000 range, it would scream past just about any car and run circles around them on dry, wet, icy, muddy, unpaved, paved, or snowy surfaces.

leet1

Dec 10, 2003, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
Get a WRX, if you spend money in mods to it up until the $29,000 range, it would scream past just about any car and run circles around them on dry, wet, icy, muddy, unpaved, paved, or snowy surfaces.

can't believe I forgot about the wrx...now thats a sweet little car.

300hp stock from the factory from the new ones coming out...teamed with an awd system.

bousozoku

Dec 10, 2003, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by kaosfere
Yes, it was overrated in horsepower. But you know what? I don't care. It's not a horsepower car. It would be beaten in a straight line by alot of comparable cars, but its still reasonably quick, and it would dust just about anything within 20k of its price once the going gets twisty.

I don't give a damn about going fast in a straight line. Any idiot can step on a gas pedal and bang off a few shifts in a quarter mile. I want a car that feels like a razor edge through the twisty stuff. Whether or not the RX8 has 240ish or 230ish HP doesn't matter; thats not its ballpark.

It's not all about power, y'know.

Exactly. After two rotary engined cars, the magic is being able to step on it and steer. Going straight, no matter how fast, is boring. It's more about the challenge of getting through corners and curves, within the lines, and not being splattered on the front page of the newspaper. :D

kaosfere

Dec 10, 2003, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by leet1
bleh, mustang beats it in speed, with a few mods I bet you could get it to handle like it for that $29,000 , lol

I wouldn't be quite so sure. The GT comes close to tying in speed, but doesn't beat it outright -- in order to do that, you need to step up to a Cobra. Still, being generous and saying a GT is faster in a straight line -- that's $25k right there, which only leaves you with about $3000.

You're going to tell me that, for three grand, you can take a Mustang and make it handle on par with a car that's 300 pounds lighter, has a much better weight balance, a lower center of gravity, and a more modern, four wheel, fully independent suspension? If you show me one, I'll buy it from you today. I've test-driven the new supercharged Cobra. Even with the improved suspension, it doesn't handle all that well, and feels very sloppy when pushed.

(And you still won't have a comfortable back seat, or easy egress for your passengers, which the RX-8 also has)

So can the turbo charged neon. :p (which cost less than $21,000)

Meh. 250lb/ft of torque without a limited slip? Even if you spend close to a grand to put a decent LSD in, you're still in a FWD car. No front wheeler will ever handle like a well tuned RWD. Period.

I like the looks of the rx8 though

Oh yeah, there we agree. I'll take mine in black. With a deep, deep tint, please.

I was just using the miata because he liked the handling and you said he didn't care about speed :D

I certainly wouldn't mind a Miata, but given the choice between a $24k Miata and a $28k RX8, the answer is obvious, in my mind. I do like raw speed. I just don't think it's make-or-break in a car, especially one like the RX8.

leet1

Dec 10, 2003, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by kaosfere
I wouldn't be quite so sure. The GT comes close to tying in speed, but doesn't beat it outright -- in order to do that, you need to step up to a Cobra. Still, being generous and saying a GT is faster in a straight line -- that's $25k right there, which only leaves you with about $3000.

Ah, sorry, should have said what model I was talking about. 2004(or 03, not sure) Mach 1 with 305hp/320 torque. Friends sister just got one for around 25k-26kish. Really great deal. :D

shadowfax

Dec 10, 2003, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by leet1
Ah, sorry, should have said what model I was talking about. 2004(or 03, not sure) Mach 1 with 305hp/320 torque. Friends sister just got one for around 25k-26kish. Really great deal. :D you know, after riding in a mustang, there is very little that would get me to keep a car like that. the interior of that car just exudes cheapness. it's the same thing that was wrong with the Chrysler PT Cruiser interior. crummy styling, crummy materials. that rigid leather stuff is just ****ty. the whole car just screams out, "oh look, i have a mustang, just like everyone else." they're so common that it's just trashy. but even if they weren't as common as houseflies, they still have that style that is just not distinctive or classy. the Miata has the same problem. it still looks the same as the miata did more than 10 years ago, with only minor changes. this consistency of style, i think, is good for a classy car like a $90K mercedes or BMW, but on a low end sports car that isn't particularly stylishly designed to begin with, it gets old really fast. little sports cars like the S2000, the RX8, and that Toyota Spyder, for instance, seem to stand out a lot more here in the states.

that's not to say that you can't have a good time in a mustang (GT or Cobra), but i think it really comes up short on a lot of important things, of the which style is most perceptible to me.

bousozoku

Dec 10, 2003, 09:21 PM

Can you find the 1.3 litre rotary engine in this photo from the accessories and cables?

kaosfere

Dec 10, 2003, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by leet1
Ah, sorry, should have said what model I was talking about. 2004(or 03, not sure) Mach 1 with 305hp/320 torque. Friends sister just got one for around 25k-26kish. Really great deal. :D

That doesn't seem like a bad deal at all. I think it would have to be an '03... don't think Ford did a Mach 1 in '04, but I could be wrong. Not a Ford man. :) The Cobra was really fun to drive; having almost 400HP on tap is enough to make me consider becoming a muscle car man. Almost. ;)

Counterfit

Dec 10, 2003, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by bousozoku
Can you find the 1.3 litre rotary engine in this photo from the accessories and cables? Get me a better pic and you're on!

bousozoku

Dec 11, 2003, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by Counterfit
Get me a better pic and you're on!

I could always send you the 6MB version. :D I don't think you'd find the engine though. I was surprised at how it was buried worse than what they did with the original RX-7.

Powerbook G5

Dec 11, 2003, 12:25 AM

I've seen worse. In my parent's Aztek you have to literally remove 1/3 of the engine bay just to get to the dang battery to change it or replace a fuse. It's nearly impossible to do the simplest of things on the car without taking it to the dealer or having a small car shop in your garage.

rjrufo

Dec 11, 2003, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by bousozoku
Exactly. After two rotary engined cars, the magic is being able to step on it and steer. Going straight, no matter how fast, is boring. It's more about the challenge of getting through corners and curves, within the lines, and not being splattered on the front page of the newspaper. :D

Or a tree...

I agree with you about going in a straight line is boring, but to me, it's not about speed at all. I like when there are no paved roads, only a trail through the woods. My 4Runner has never seen off road, and maybe never will, but I have a Suzuki Samurai that will never see a paved road again (except from the comfort of a trailer). Speed is definitely not needed - and not wanted - in that type of situation.

shadowfax

Dec 11, 2003, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by rjrufo
Or a tree...

I agree with you about going in a straight line is boring, but to me, it's not about speed at all. I like when there are no paved roads, only a trail through the woods. My 4Runner has never seen off road, and maybe never will, but I have a Suzuki Samurai that will never see a paved road again (except from the comfort of a trailer). Speed is definitely not needed - and not wanted - in that type of situation. no, it's lots of fun to speed through the woods on a fourwheeler or dirt bike. heck, it'd probably be fun to speed through the woods in a Cayenne.

Powerbook G5

Dec 11, 2003, 10:08 AM

Nothing like wrapping your $100,000 twin turbo Porsche SUV around a tree.

rjrufo

Dec 11, 2003, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by shadowfax
no, it's lots of fun to speed through the woods on a fourwheeler or dirt bike. heck, it'd probably be fun to speed through the woods in a Cayenne.

Your right, on a fourwheeler or dirt bike it would be fun to go fast. But where I take the zuke, going fast is something that happens when you make a mistake - like falling off a cliff.

bousozoku

Dec 11, 2003, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by rjrufo
Or a tree...

I agree with you about going in a straight line is boring, but to me, it's not about speed at all. I like when there are no paved roads, only a trail through the woods. My 4Runner has never seen off road, and maybe never will, but I have a Suzuki Samurai that will never see a paved road again (except from the comfort of a trailer). Speed is definitely not needed - and not wanted - in that type of situation.

Well, I'd rather have my Suzuki TS185 or Kona mountain bike off road instead of a 4WD vehicle in the woods but I used to take my dad's Jeep CJ5 in the sand dunes where they used to have 4WD races and that was so much fun--and you couldn't go straight or fast.

shadowfax

Dec 11, 2003, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
Nothing like wrapping your $100,000 twin turbo Porsche SUV around a tree. nah, if you're a crummy offroader, you shouldn't be driving it off road at all.

did you think they put a 450 hp engine in that thing to drive 15 mph on a dirt road?

;)

Powerbook G5

Dec 11, 2003, 10:27 AM

Perhaps it'd be a cosmetic improvement. Those Porsche SUVS are hideously ugly.

rjrufo

Dec 11, 2003, 10:40 AM

If I had a Porsche SUV, I wouldn't take it off road, it's not designed for that. My 4Runner may do ok off road, but it still isn't designed to do what I built my zuke to do. I could modify it to do the same thing as the zuke does, but i don't think a Porsche can easily be modified. The same is true for the BMW SUV, and maybe the Mercedes SUV, they are built for the "urban jungle". A Land Rover can do very well off road, even in it's stock form, but I wouldn't want to spend $45000 to try it out. As it is, $10000 is a bit much to spend on a toy, but I like the fun and chalenge of it.

shadowfax

Dec 11, 2003, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by rjrufo
If I had a Porsche SUV, I wouldn't take it off road, it's not designed for that. no, it's built to look like it is designed for the "urban jungle." did you read this thread? we already went over how well the Cayenne performed offroad. it can follow the hummer's act pretty decently.

rjrufo

Dec 11, 2003, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by shadowfax
no, it's built to look like it is designed for the "urban jungle." did you read this thread? we already went over how well the Cayenne performed offroad. it can follow the hummer's act pretty decently.

Ok, but that trail was a 4 where a gravel road is a 1, I don't think that the Cayenne could do much better than a 4 or a 5. If the Hummer were to go into more tough terrain, I doubt that the Cayenne could follow.

Powerbook G5

Dec 11, 2003, 11:31 AM

The Porsche SUV was not designed for off roading, though, it was designed for the rich of the world who want to join in on the SUV craze and drive the fastest SUV on the road. You don't buy $90,000 luxury vehicles to go off roading in, you buy them for status. If you want to off road, you buy a Jeep, a Hummer, a Land Rover, or a 4 Runner. Those are vehicles made for where the pavement ends and the dirt begins.

Counterfit

Dec 11, 2003, 11:36 AM

Hummer H1: starting at just $106,185
Showing up PowerbookG5: Pricless :D

Powerbook G5

Dec 11, 2003, 11:44 AM

The H1 is not a luxury vehicle, though. I realize it is over $100,000, but it is for those whole need the most absolute off roading strength imaginable. It's like the weilding hammer of Thor compared to a plastic Fisher Price hammer.

rjrufo

Dec 11, 2003, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
The Porsche SUV was not designed for off roading, though, it was designed for the rich of the world who want to join in on the SUV craze and drive the fastest SUV on the road. You don't buy $90,000 luxury vehicles to go off roading in, you buy them for status. If you want to off road, you buy a Jeep, a Hummer, a Land Rover, or a 4 Runner. Those are vehicles made for where the pavement ends and the dirt begins.

My sentiments exactly. Even then, the Hummer is more of a status vehicle, since not too many people who have them take them off road. Even most Land Rovers are never taken off road. The majority of vehicles I've ever seen on any of the trails I've been on are Jeeps and Toyotas, and maybe some older Land Rovers. Of course, there are a lot of other vehicles that have been modified to take the punishment, but rarely have I seen a stock vehicle on the trails.

Edit: On one of the runs I did last year, someone had a completely stock Jeep Cherokee. It did pretty well, but still had to be pulled out a couple of times.

yellow

Dec 11, 2003, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
It's like the weilding hammer of Thor compared to a plastic Fisher Price hammer. SNORT! Great analogy.

shadowfax

Dec 11, 2003, 12:16 PM

you guys are really mistaking the causality for the commonality of various vehicles on- and off-road. consider this:

Hummers are rare. they are pretty rare in the city, and very rare offroad. the same is true of the Cayenne, and of, for instance, the previously mentioned G-Wagen.

Toyotas and Jeeps are common offroad. this does not mean they are better at offroading than hummers, Cayennes, or G-Wagens. it means they are more common. remember, they're ALSO much more common in urban and suburban america. the fact that they are more commonly found offroad is really just a reflection of the buying power of most americans. most people who have Toyotas, if they could afford it, would buy a hummer or a Cayenne, whether they wanted to take it offroad or not.

these $100K SUVs are not just fake p**sy toy cars. NONE of them are. They perform better in every respect when compared to cheaper SUVs like jeeps and toyotas. as part of that, they are more luxurious as well. Powerbook G5, you said that the H1 is not a luxury vehicle. that's, ummm, UTTERLY RIDICULOUS. have you ever been in one? they are plush, man. utterly plush. They look more rugged on the outside than a Cayenne or a G-Wagen, but they are just as posh and dainty on the inside. and you can still screw them up, and repairs cost a lot more than they would for a jeep or toyota. this is a fact of being a vehicle that is more expensive, and holds true for the Cayenne and G-Wagen, too.

there's no reason to bash on these SUVs. you can keep bitching about how most people just use them to go shopping at the mall, but--wake up and smell the coffee--this is what most SUVs in ANY class are used for.

rjrufo

Dec 11, 2003, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax
you guys are really mistaking the causality for the commonality of various vehicles on- and off-road. consider this:

Hummers are rare. they are pretty rare in the city, and very rare offroad. the same is true of the Cayenne, and of, for instance, the previously mentioned G-Wagen.

Toyotas and Jeeps are common offroad. this does not mean they are better at offroading than hummers, Cayennes, or G-Wagens. it means they are more common. remember, they're ALSO much more common in urban and suburban america. the fact that they are more commonly found offroad is really just a reflection of the buying power of most americans. most people who have Toyotas, if they could afford it, would buy a hummer or a Cayenne, whether they wanted to take it offroad or not.

these $100K SUVs are not just fake p**sy toy cars. NONE of them are. They perform better in every respect when compared to cheaper SUVs like jeeps and toyotas. as part of that, they are more luxurious as well. Powerbook G5, you said that the H1 is not a luxury vehicle. that's, ummm, UTTERLY RIDICULOUS. have you ever been in one? they are plush, man. utterly plush. They look more rugged on the outside than a Cayenne or a G-Wagen, but they are just as posh and dainty on the inside. and you can still screw them up, and repairs cost a lot more than they would for a jeep or toyota. this is a fact of being a vehicle that is more expensive, and holds true for the Cayenne and G-Wagen, too.

there's no reason to bash on these SUVs. you can keep bitching about how most people just use them to go shopping at the mall, but--wake up and smell the coffee--this is what most SUVs in ANY class are used for.

I guess it all depends on what you consider "off road". If you want to drive down a dirt road, then almost any car will do. If you want to follow a trail that is strewn with large rocks, logs, and deep ruts, then a standard SUV may do the job. But if you want to tackle terrain that is steep, climbs over boulders, crosses deep water, and twists back and forth through the woods, you'll need something built just for that kind of task, and most SUVs aren’t capable of that. Some of the trails I've been on are even difficult to walk down, let alone drive. To me, that's "off road".

I'm not bashing any vehicle, just simply giving my opinion based on experience.

neut

Dec 11, 2003, 03:19 PM

i got around to taking some pics...its really dirty and has been sitting outside for awhile. i need to work on this damn thing and get it sold!

http://organech.com/images/examples/chevelle01.jpg

http://organech.com/images/examples/chevelle02.jpg

http://organech.com/images/examples/chevelle03.jpg

http://organech.com/images/examples/chevelle04.jpg

peace.

Powerbook G5

Dec 11, 2003, 08:50 PM

Yes, I've been in both civilian and military Hummers and no, they are anything but plush. Have you ridden in one? The ride is not plush by any stretch of the imagination. It's one thing to sit in them, but try being on a highway in one going 60, believe me, it is hell. They simply aren't made for every day grocery store/soccer mom/urban jungle environments. The Porsche is more suited to that task. They are both SUVs, yes, they both have capability, but I do not see a Porsche owner wanting to take his toy off road.

shadowfax

Dec 11, 2003, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
Yes, I've been in both civilian and military Hummers and no, they are anything but plush. Have you ridden in one? The ride is not plush by any stretch of the imagination. It's one thing to sit in them, but try being on a highway in one going 60, believe me, it is hell. They simply aren't made for every day grocery store/soccer mom/urban jungle environments. The Porsche is more suited to that task. They are both SUVs, yes, they both have capability, but I do not see a Porsche owner wanting to take his toy off road. I went driving in one, it was a white wagon with leather seats, a bose sound system, rear facing jump seats in the back... it was very smooth, to say the least. the back seats were a little tight against the 4 foot wide console, but it was still very very fancy.

granted, the hummer is a much tougher vehicle, but the Cayenne and the G-Wagen are not far behind, and are much better all around then things like the Jeep Cherokee and the Land Cruiser.

Powerbook G5

Dec 11, 2003, 09:23 PM

I'd personally rather be in a Jeep when going off roading. They are pretty capable, plus, I wouldn't be worried about chipping paint or bending something with a Jeep as I would be in a Porsche. I know it may be able to handle its fair share of off roading, but I could never bring myself to put a $100,000 twin turbo AWD sports/luxury SUV into a harsh environment. That's the problem I'd have. It reminds me of summer vacation. I saw someone pull up in the parking lot at Cracker barrel with one being towed behind his Dodge RAM. I asked why he was towing it and he said he didn't want it to get any rock chips while on the highway. If an owner is so worried about chipping his SUV on a highway, then how would he justify taking it off road?

shadowfax

Dec 11, 2003, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
I'd personally rather be in a Jeep when going off roading. They are pretty capable, plus, I wouldn't be worried about chipping paint or bending something with a Jeep as I would be in a Porsche. I know it may be able to handle its fair share of off roading, but I could never bring myself to put a $100,000 twin turbo AWD sports/luxury SUV into a harsh environment. That's the problem I'd have. It reminds me of summer vacation. I saw someone pull up in the parking lot at Cracker barrel with one being towed behind his Dodge RAM. I asked why he was towing it and he said he didn't want it to get any rock chips while on the highway. If an owner is so worried about chipping his SUV on a highway, then how would he justify taking it off road? this is the perspective i am trying to give you, though. if you had enough money, you most likely wouldn't mind using a porsche the way it was very much designed to be used, because you could afford to fix it. that's all you're worried about, and it's because you're just another bourgeois american :p. the cayenne would not likely be used for offroading by any middle class american.

bbarnhart

Dec 11, 2003, 09:37 PM

This is a 1995 F150. Bought it new and it has 175,000 miles. I need a new one bad. The heater doesn't work too great and it's been might cold recently. This pic was taken three years ago so there's a little more rust on it now!

phrancpharmD

Dec 11, 2003, 09:39 PM

For the record, the Cayenne WAS designed to be a perfectly capable (albeit absurdly executed) offroad vehicle. Basically, replace the summer tires with some offroad ones, and you'd have yourself a very expensive and overpowered offroad vehicle. It even has a low range transfer case.

Regarding Mustangs (YUCK - GM please bring back the F platform!): Someone I think compared the WRX to a Cobra and mentioned something about independent suspension. That's supposedly one of the Cobra's attributes, the first Mustang without a live rear axle, and the first, in fact, to have a new platform since the late '70's Ford Fairmont. All other Mustangs are still based on that late '70's Fairmont platform. Goes quite the distance in explaining the ride, eh?

Regarding the RS-8: Despite its HP and torque shortcomings (whadda ya expect from a couple of rotary engines, anyway? That's just not how they work), it is one fine example of design and engineering and I'd happily take one over a WRX or S2000 any day. But for $29,000 I'd probably go manual A4 1.8T or manual 325i. . .

Regarding Neut's Malibu: BADASS!

shadowfax

Dec 11, 2003, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by bbarnhart
This is a 1995 F150. Bought it new and it has 175,000 miles. I need a new one bad. The heater doesn't work too great and it's been might cold recently. This pic was taken three years ago so there's a little more rust on it now! your picture won't load for me, man. are you sure you got it right? try attaching it to a post.

GroundLoop

Dec 11, 2003, 09:46 PM

This is the car that I have been trying to get for a little over a year. It is a shame that the waiting list is still 3 years long.

Hickman

shadowfax

Dec 11, 2003, 09:49 PM

wow... that's... nothing short of disgusting.

GroundLoop

Dec 11, 2003, 09:58 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax
wow... that's... nothing short of disgusting.

You have to love a car that is just slightly larger than a Miata with a BMW 4.4L engine. Mmmm....0-60 in 4.2 seconds.

Hickman

shadowfax

Dec 11, 2003, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by Brian Hickman
You have to love a car that is just slightly larger than a Miata with a BMW 4.4L engine. Mmmm....0-60 in 4.2 seconds.

Hickman i'm living proof that you don't. that thing looks like a dragracer with a squishy face. it screams tacky like Fran Drescher.

it looks like it's fast, but it also looks like it could take a turn about as poorly as a dodge ram at 110 mph.

GroundLoop

Dec 11, 2003, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax
i'm living proof that you don't. that thing looks like a dragracer with a squishy face. it screams tacky like Fran Drescher.

it looks like it's fast, but it also looks like it could take a turn about as poorly as a dodge ram at 110 mph.

Actually it handles just as well as a Corvette Z06. .96g on the skid pad. Top speed of 155mph.

Hickman

shadowfax

Dec 11, 2003, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Brian Hickman
Actually it handles just as well as a Corvette Z06. .96g on the skid pad. Top speed of 155mph.

Hickman that's good. too bad it's still tacky like fran drescher... :p

GroundLoop

Dec 11, 2003, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax
that's good. too bad it's still tacky like fran drescher... :p

What is with the Fran Drescher obsession?

dricci

Dec 11, 2003, 11:20 PM

'89 Plymouth Sundance. Real Ultimate Power! :D

Powerbook G5

Dec 11, 2003, 11:30 PM

My dad had a dark gray Sundance, it was pretty nifty for being a small 80's economy car. :)

shadowfax

Dec 12, 2003, 12:56 AM

that kind of reminds me of my second cousin's Dodge Shadow, except it's in better shape, heh.

Powerbook G5

Dec 12, 2003, 01:14 AM

My friend in high school had a bright red Dodge Spirit R/T turbo. Now that was a sleeper. Looked much like that Sundance with its four door economy box body, but lurking within was a Lotus developed 230 hp turbocharged wonder matched to a Getrag 5 speed tranny. It made for one fast moving box on four wheels.

bousozoku

Dec 12, 2003, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Brian Hickman
You have to love a car that is just slightly larger than a Miata with a BMW 4.4L engine. Mmmm....0-60 in 4.2 seconds.

Hickman

That's quite lovely, except for the placement of the headlights. It gives it a bit of a cross-eyed look.

edesignuk

Dec 12, 2003, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by shadowfax
wow... that's... nothing short of disgusting.
:eek: :eek: :eek: That is beautiful!!!

jazzmfk

Dec 12, 2003, 01:38 PM

Hey! Great topic.

Two things:
Daily driver: '89 Porsche 944 S2. Sweet ride, perfectly balanced, lots of power, solid German engineering at a resonable price (if you can find one...)

and 2:
I, too, was worried about the whole Porsche SUV thing. They built it because the company did a poll and something like 80% of 911/Boxter owners also owned an SUV (mostly Benz's and X5s). So, they built one for when the owners really needed a back seat (they had toyed with the idea of a 4 seat 911 for about 20+ years; given the choice, I'm glad they built the SUV). Anyway, this summer, I had the opportunity to drive the both the Cayenne and the Cayenne Turbo.

Inside they are packed with luxury as you might expect. A little clunky with some of the controls, but that you might expect, too, if you've ever driven a P-car. The auto tranny starts in second gear for control, so it feels a little sluggish off the line. The turbo, though, rewards you with a neck-snapping shove into the seat. We did an autocross course, and the thing held the line better than my '88 Carerra used to. Wow. Not fair to beat Physics like that.

Riduculous. Way cool, though. And yes, it's ugly on the outside. You don't see that when you're stepping on the fun pedal, though. If you get the chance, go drive one. Heck, just ask for a ride in one.

And yes, maybe play the lottery once in awhile, too.

Just my two cents....

neut

Dec 12, 2003, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by phrancpharmD
Regarding Neut's Malibu: BADASS!

hey, thanks!

not too many muscle cars fans besides you here, eh?

i love that car. i was my first...lot's of memories in that thing. I'd love to keep it, but I drive 40 minutes to and from work plus....so at I fill it up about every 4 days. I hate to kill the air like that but I love that car. lately i've been driving my brothers car (86 Accord). saves hella on gas, but it doesn't get the ladies or the thumbs up at every intersection. Man, that chevelle gets you real respect on the road. a little on the gas and the know your there. ;)

peace.

job

Dec 12, 2003, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax
i'm living proof that you don't. that thing looks like a dragracer with a squishy face. it screams tacky like Fran Drescher.

are you serious?

that design is a throwback to the old cars of the 1930s and 1940s. that is class design right there.

you want tacky designs. just look at all the new cadillac 'cars.' i prefer to call them boxes with wheels. ;) when will GM learn that curves on cars will always be sexy?

bousozoku

Dec 12, 2003, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by neut
hey, thanks!

not too many muscle cars fans besides you here, eh?

...

peace.

I gave those up about 1974 when our 1969 Pontiac GTO went away and I found out how wonderful small cars with power were. :D Despite that, my first car was a 1967 Pontiac Firebird.

job:

I'm trying to remember the last time I saw an interesting GM car. I think it was 1969. They started getting rid of the curves right about then. :D

puffmarvin

Dec 12, 2003, 08:05 PM

here is my baby..... (my other baby is my 12inch powerbook)

ah crap i screwed up... lemme try again

puffmarvin

Dec 12, 2003, 08:08 PM

second try...

neut

Dec 12, 2003, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by bousozoku
I gave those up about 1974 when our 1969 Pontiac GTO went away and I found out how wonderful small cars with power were. :D Despite that, my first car was a 1967 Pontiac Firebird.

i got soft spot for a few muscle cars...most are pretty ugly. Too bad you didn't hold on to that GTO; they're going for 10-25k now.

i got my malibu for 4500 and i should be able to get 6-8k out of it. that's if i make her run a little better (she's a bit defunked right now).

i like small cars too though. i'd really like a late model RX-7. those things are freakin' fun.
http://www.mazda.mms.si/Zanimivosti/slike/rx-7-3.jpg

latley though, i've really been into to the Lincoln LS.
http://www.indymall.com/business/roush/lincoln/ls-300.jpg

that thing is pimpin'. we have a 99 Diamante LS which is a lot like the Lincoln LS, bet a little less pimped, but at least it's very affordable...
http://img.epinions.com/images/newworld/4626/162686-auto.gif

peace.

Counterfit

Dec 12, 2003, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Brian Hickman
This is the car that I have been trying to get for a little over a year. It is a shame that the waiting list is still 3 years long.

Hickman What do you expect from a company that produces a new model, what is it now, 30 years?
that design is a throwback to the old cars of the 1930s and 1940s. that is class design right there. It's really an aerodynamic evolution of the Plus 4, which just ended production. I'm not sure if it really did, but Morgan is a small company, and I don't think they have the resources to have two separate models being built at the same time.

shadowfax

Dec 12, 2003, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by job
are you serious?

that design is a throwback to the old cars of the 1930s and 1940s. that is class design right there.

you want tacky designs. just look at all the new cadillac 'cars.' i prefer to call them boxes with wheels. ;) when will GM learn that curves on cars will always be sexy? i like the classic design, but to me it seems overdone: i thing the front end is a bit too large, and i HATE how the headlights appear to be pointing inwards.

i agree about the new cadillacs. they just suck outright.

bousozoku

Dec 12, 2003, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by neut
i got soft spot for a few muscle cars...most are pretty ugly. Too bad you didn't hold on to that GTO; they're going for 10-25k now.

...

i like small cars too though. i'd really like a late model RX-7. those things are freakin' fun.

latley though, i've really been into to the Lincoln LS.
...

peace.

The GTO was interesting in a straight line going forward, but forget turning corners or stopping.

If you think the 1993 Mazda RX-7 is fun, you should try a 1979. The tail gets loose when you push it too hard and it makes you smile.

The Lincoln LS has to be good since it shares basic design features with the Jaguar S-type.

grafikat

Dec 21, 2003, 10:30 PM

Here's a quick scan of my baby, before and after (other pix not easily accessible...I'll post 'em later...)

GS 455 Stage I ragtop 4 speed on the floor with bucket seats ... Oh Yeah!

Before:

http://www.thewaterpond.com/albums/grafikats-pond/gord1.jpg

and after:

http://www.thewaterpond.com/albums/grafikats-pond/nebland.jpg

MacAtLast

Dec 22, 2003, 12:31 AM

This is my current car (with my wife at the wheel)

Previous cars were a 1965 MGB, 1969 Pontiac GTO, 1972 Datsun 240Z, 1980 Porsche 928 (drowned it in a flood or I would still be driving it!)

veedubdrew

Dec 22, 2003, 01:45 AM

This is my new car (Prius) behind the car it replaced (Insight). Bought it on Friday!

2004 Toyota Prius Hybrid
Option Package #7 with Keyless Smart Start & Entry, Xenon HID Headlamps, Vehicle Skid Control, Side Torso & Curtain Airbags, and Fog Lamps.

The car in front is sold to my dear friend Geoff, and it's a 2000 Honda Insight Hybrid 5-speed. Over the 67,000 miles I've had it, I've averaged just about 60 MPG. Hopefully my new Prius will come pretty close to that. My house is in the background.

sethypoo

Dec 22, 2003, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by veedubdrew
This is my new car (Prius) behind the car it replaced (Insight). Bought it on Friday!

The car in front is sold to my dear friend Geoff, and it's a 2000 Honda Insight Hybrid 5-speed. Over the 67,000 miles I've had it, I've averaged just about 60 MPG.

That is so, so sweet. I wish Honda or Toyota would develop/put out a hybrid pickup truck or SUV.....they probably are in the works. Seeing rich women driving their one or two kids around in a seven-seater Suburban that gets 10 MPG makes me sick. We *need* hybrid SUV's and trucks with decent power and awesome EPA ratings.

Amen.

sethypoo

Dec 22, 2003, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by shadowfax
i like the classic design, but to me it seems overdone: i thing the front end is a bit too large, and i HATE how the headlights appear to be pointing inwards.

i agree about the new cadillacs. they just suck outright.

I have to disagree. The one in the Matrix Reloaded (a Deville??) was pretty nice looking. Before all the bullet holes.

veedubdrew

Dec 22, 2003, 07:02 PM

The Lexus RX400H is arriving this April and is said to get well over 30 MPG while having quicker acceleration than the traditional V6 version (RX330). In August, Toyota launches the Highlander SUV Hybrid. The Highlander's mileage has yet to be released, but it should probably be similar to the RX400H's because they share the same platform. Ford has been talking about a hybrid Escape small SUV, but they've delayed it and delayed it so I wouldn't hold my breath.

I've been very happy with my hybrids so far. Prior to the Insight, I had a GM EV1 Electric, which I just adored, but they wouldn't sell it to me after the lease expired (lease only). Such a sham. The new Prius is driving beautifully though. It's powerful, quiet and absolutely enormous inside.

>That is so, so sweet. I wish Honda or Toyota would develop/put >out a hybrid pickup truck or SUV.....they probably are in the >works. Seeing rich women driving their one or two kids around >in a seven-seater Suburban that gets 10 MPG makes me sick. >We *need* hybrid SUV's and trucks with decent power and >awesome EPA ratings.

rhpenguin

Dec 24, 2003, 01:22 PM

1972 Datsun 240Z. All restored by me. Tons of upgrades.

Looks a little different now, ive got my new body kit on it, just need a camera to take pix. Next project car is a 1976 Mini.

Roger1

Dec 26, 2003, 07:24 PM

Here's an update. My 93 Village needs some serious work... I know it needed cv joints ($300 or so), but on the way home from work, my brake pedal Mooshed to the floor - very scary. I managed to nurse it home, but nearly put it through the garage door. Appears I blew a brake line. Now I'm driving my backup vehicle - a 94 Dodge 2500 single cab, with well over 200,000 miles on it. :D

Danger! Will

Jan 2, 2004, 09:48 PM

I drive a 1984 SAAB 900 4 DOOR Sedan
and a 1990 Chevrolet Beretta GTZ coupe

I mostly use the SAAB to and from work.

I don't have a pic of the GTZ but it basically looks like ADAM'S from beretta.net which is the featured car.

It's a H.O. Quad 4 Engine that produces 190HP out of a 2.3 Liter 4 cylinder engine. It's very fun to drive and loud from the factory and it's really good on gas.

The car i'm saving for is a SAAB 9-3 AERO.

Danger! Will

Jan 2, 2004, 09:54 PM

Sorry forgot to attach the pic

crookedcharlie

Jan 2, 2004, 10:18 PM

2003 VW Jetta GLI

DVW86

Jan 3, 2004, 12:55 AM

Currently I drive a 1994 ford Ranger XLT. My first car was a 1949 Chevy fastback. I still have it and would love to start driving it again, but as you can see it needs restored.

candan9019

Jan 3, 2004, 06:44 PM

Here's my 1997 SC2. It's changed a bit, I got new tires and a hood cover. And it's in Ontario now.

JesseJames

Jan 3, 2004, 07:00 PM

I drive a heap right now. It's a 1993 Pontiac Sunbird LE with a V6 and a 5-speed.
It's got over 165,000 miles on it. I just keep changing the oil and it keeps going. Been pretty dependable. Feels nice not having to worry about car payments.
What do I want next?
That 2005 Ford Mustang Mach 1 is looking sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
I WANT one!

I don't think I could afford the Cobra even though I want that one.
I owned a muscle car once. A 1986 IROC Z28 Camaro. It was a pain in the ass but it was fast. The jump off the line, the throaty rumble, the seemingly endless horses at your command. Sigh.
When I got my Pontiac, I felt like I was castrated.

Counterfit

Jan 4, 2004, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by JesseJames
When I got my Pontiac, I felt like I was castrated. That's because you were :p

iJon

Jan 25, 2004, 09:19 PM

well i know im late, but i wasnt able to post then. got this friday, and yes it did come clean but its a jeep, come on.

iJon

Counterfit

Jan 25, 2004, 11:37 PM

There is NOT enough mud on there! :p

iJon

Jan 25, 2004, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by Counterfit
There is NOT enough mud on there! :p
i forgot, thats normal, haha.

iJon

parrothead

Jan 28, 2004, 02:00 PM

I just got my 94 Jeep Wrangler a week ago and I am loving it!

Perfect for the beautiful Hawaii weather!

pinto32

Jan 28, 2004, 02:31 PM

My lovely Civic, in all its ULEV goodness!

zami

Jan 28, 2004, 02:33 PM

Skoda Felicia Diesel. A proper Eastern European motor, none of your bloated neanderthal tranatlantic rubbish!

Dont Hurt Me

Jan 28, 2004, 03:07 PM

A lot of Great cars for sure, though i usually drive my truck ill spare you so you dont have to look at it. this is my other vehicle. 1980 MGB with front made to look like mid 60's.

Mike Teezie

Jan 29, 2004, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by MattG
I just can't get used to the "boxy" looking cars. Especially the Mercedes G500. It's a big box. Not sleak and smooth like a Mercedes should be.

http://homepage.mac.com/mattgudites/macrumors/g500.jpg

*Oh, and it's $73,000.

Actaully, the G500 has been around for about 7-10 years. They were previously built only in Germany - called the Gealendawagen, and there were only handful in the US. They were built entirely by hand, and the four door model cost around $150,000 usd. I think there were less than 50 in all of the US before they started building them here.

A few years ago they started building them in America - in the Alabama plant if I am not mistaken.

I tell you what though, with a 300 hp V8, they are fun as hell to drive!!